Great video Julian. I love the concept of the disused viaduct as a background to the engine shed. Your use of different levels creates an interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Great to see the area develop, lots of levels for interest. Sorry you were so hot, just 30 degrees above here on the UK south coast... Cheers as always, love the videos.
My home layout is a Dad’s Army layout called Walmington-on-sea. My collection of Southern Railway steam locomotives certainly run well and represent the wartime era well!!
This is what I love Jules: democracy at work! 😄 I think once you have applied the scenic and detailing on the incline you’ll barely notice whether it is 2 or 3 per cent. The main thing is whether the trains can get up it 😉🍀 I know it is a bit eleventh hour, but had you thought of doing an aqueduct? 🤔 Not instead of the viaduct but perhaps in addition 🤷🏻♂️ Only thought of it because of the terrain and the fact that often earl lines followed canals (and in some cases, we’re build in abandoned channels! 😀 Lovely job in the incline thus far and interesting use of a split board to incorporate the coaling stage! Nice one mate 😎🍀👍🍻
Looks great Julian. A comment has made reference to the term TMD. That is quite a modern term. Anything steam or steam/diesel area would have used the word shed or engine shed. Turntables were the norm but are space hungry in model form. Some smaller or what became know as sub-sheds had 50 foot turntables (not the big 70 foot ones) and so could only turn smaller older tender engines with the larger ones having to run tender first to somewhere else. That might give you options and variety? Also, I note the robust structure under the shed (Scalescenes product?). That might make retrofitting inspection pits a challenge. Sheds had to have pits for oiling up and with more pits outside for disposal (emptying the ashpan beneath the firebox). The mini jigsaw you mentioned might be the tool of choice. Thanks for the usual motivation and inspiration.
I just use the term 'TMD' as it's quicker say, and I'm not too hung up on correct terminology in general. The layout has quite a broad era from the late 50's to the early 70's so the term could possibly sneak into the early 70's. The engine shed is a Scalescenes downloadable kit and the structure underneath is the inspection pits with timber bracing inbetween the pits and at each end.
Very complex planning but of course you got it spot on very impressive as always like others have said looking forward to seeing the background viaduct/bridges very interesting idea. Cheers from the UK it's 2 degrees C.
Great video Julien, really liking those split layers, they do add interest. Just in the creation phase of my new layout and will certainly look to take that inspiration into just lifting my TMD a little beside the main lines. Thank you
Excellent start to the TMD Julien, planning as usual pays off for you. I will be interested to see the next instalment, take care and keep up the good work.
Locomotive TMD with a difference, it's going to look fantastic especially with the viaduct in the back ground. Kept up this multi levelling modelling, it is a great representation of how areas were in reality.👍👍👍
Very interesting to see how this is developing. What track centres separation are you using on those three tracks that loop around under the viaduct? Are the radii large enough to get it down to 51mm, or have you settled for something a bit more spaced out? It’s difficult to judge on screen.
The inner radius at the back is 3rd radius (being the sharpest radius on the layout) and the curves radiate out from there. The track spacing was determined by two MK1 coaches passing each other at this point on maximum over-swing with suitable clearance.
3% should be ok, most traffic will be light engine, with the odd coal replenishment pushing a couple of coal wagons. Not like you'll be trying to haul a 7 coach express up there!!
Wow Julian. That's a huge project in itself. As for MDF. I Live in QLD where the humity is crazy. My Tri-ang Series 3 layout is on 12mm MDF and so is my Tri-ang TT layout. If you seal it with waterproof paint before you start it's an innert platform. I suspect that MDF is unjustly criticised because it can swell if wet. My layouts won't get wet and are sealed anyway. Anyway... That's my 10 cents worth. Happy Modelling Mon
Great video as always, just a quick question. You explained thoroughly the incline up towards the engine shed level. But the gradient down to the lower level of the coal stage is shorter, so therefore steeper?. It looks steep. What is the gradient?. I’m sure in your calculations you have the info to hand . I’m curious. Keep up the good work and I can’t wait for the next episode.
This was a question I had myself with the lower coal siding looking steeper, but it's an optical illusion because of the curve in the track and the split for the depot sidings. Measuring the lower coal siding, it is 3%.
Surely you are not going to make the same mistake as Charlie and not have a turntable. Also "TMD" is not a term used in the 1960s, what year is your railway set?
I did consider a turntable but scrapped the thought, they are quite space hungry. I just use the term 'TMD' as it's quicker say, and I'm not to hung up on correct terminology in general. The layout has quite a broad era from the late 50's to the early 70's.
Do like the extra interest the different levels give. Happy to swap you “insufferable” 34 degrees in your garage with the 2 degrees in mine!
I love the variety of levels it gives you a great viewing opportunity. Looking forward to seeing this progress.
Nat
Great video Julian. I love the concept of the disused viaduct as a background to the engine shed. Your use of different levels creates an interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Awesoime update Julan! Well done!! Good luck with building it. Cheers Onno.
Great to see the area develop, lots of levels for interest. Sorry you were so hot, just 30 degrees above here on the UK south coast... Cheers as always, love the videos.
Dear Julian, love the vid! Cool progress. Beautiful scenic opportunities and views in the making! Cheerio
Great stuff.
Looking forward to see how you get on.
My home layout is a Dad’s Army layout called Walmington-on-sea. My collection of Southern Railway steam locomotives certainly run well and represent the wartime era well!!
Hello from the UK
This is what I love Jules: democracy at work! 😄
I think once you have applied the scenic and detailing on the incline you’ll barely notice whether it is 2 or 3 per cent. The main thing is whether the trains can get up it 😉🍀
I know it is a bit eleventh hour, but had you thought of doing an aqueduct? 🤔 Not instead of the viaduct but perhaps in addition 🤷🏻♂️ Only thought of it because of the terrain and the fact that often earl lines followed canals (and in some cases, we’re build in abandoned channels! 😀
Lovely job in the incline thus far and interesting use of a split board to incorporate the coaling stage!
Nice one mate 😎🍀👍🍻
Looks great Julian. A comment has made reference to the term TMD. That is quite a modern term. Anything steam or steam/diesel area would have used the word shed or engine shed. Turntables were the norm but are space hungry in model form. Some smaller or what became know as sub-sheds had 50 foot turntables (not the big 70 foot ones) and so could only turn smaller older tender engines with the larger ones having to run tender first to somewhere else. That might give you options and variety? Also, I note the robust structure under the shed (Scalescenes product?). That might make retrofitting inspection pits a challenge. Sheds had to have pits for oiling up and with more pits outside for disposal (emptying the ashpan beneath the firebox). The mini jigsaw you mentioned might be the tool of choice. Thanks for the usual motivation and inspiration.
I just use the term 'TMD' as it's quicker say, and I'm not too hung up on correct terminology in general. The layout has quite a broad era from the late 50's to the early 70's so the term could possibly sneak into the early 70's. The engine shed is a Scalescenes downloadable kit and the structure underneath is the inspection pits with timber bracing inbetween the pits and at each end.
Single locos can easily climb your 3 degrees slope.
Full trains don't need to access the TMD. Go for it!!!
+34! Oh how I wish, it's freezing here in the UK. The layout is looking great Julian.
Very complex planning but of course you got it spot on very impressive as always like others have said looking forward to seeing the background viaduct/bridges very interesting idea.
Cheers from the UK it's 2 degrees C.
Great video Julien, really liking those split layers, they do add interest. Just in the creation phase of my new layout and will certainly look to take that inspiration into just lifting my TMD a little beside the main lines. Thank you
Excellent start to the TMD Julien, planning as usual pays off for you. I will be interested to see the next instalment, take care and keep up the good work.
Was worried about the shed to throat, but then you added some supports! Wondering what a "mini" jigsaw is?
It looks great Julian, I’m very excited to see future developments.
good vid on channel keep up the good vids thanks lee
very interesting , going to be a very busy area 👌
Locomotive TMD with a difference, it's going to look fantastic especially with the viaduct in the back ground.
Kept up this multi levelling modelling, it is a great representation of how areas were in reality.👍👍👍
Lovely to see British outline trains being used in Oz!!
New Zealand mate...
@@seanmmccarthy My error!! Sorry!!
We're easily confused with OZ. My recent trip to the UK, most thought I was from Australia.😊
Very interesting to see how this is developing. What track centres separation are you using on those three tracks that loop around under the viaduct? Are the radii large enough to get it down to 51mm, or have you settled for something a bit more spaced out? It’s difficult to judge on screen.
The inner radius at the back is 3rd radius (being the sharpest radius on the layout) and the curves radiate out from there. The track spacing was determined by two MK1 coaches passing each other at this point on maximum over-swing with suitable clearance.
3% should be ok, most traffic will be light engine, with the odd coal replenishment pushing a couple of coal wagons. Not like you'll be trying to haul a 7 coach express up there!!
Wow Julian.
That's a huge project in itself.
As for MDF. I Live in QLD where the humity is crazy.
My Tri-ang Series 3 layout is on 12mm MDF and so is my Tri-ang TT layout.
If you seal it with waterproof paint before you start it's an innert platform.
I suspect that MDF is unjustly criticised because it can swell if wet.
My layouts won't get wet and are sealed anyway.
Anyway... That's my 10 cents worth.
Happy Modelling
Mon
Agreed, if MDF is painted/sealed it works a treat.
Great video as always, just a quick question. You explained thoroughly the incline up towards the engine shed level. But the gradient down to the lower level of the coal stage is shorter, so therefore steeper?. It looks steep. What is the gradient?. I’m sure in your calculations you have the info to hand . I’m curious. Keep up the good work and I can’t wait for the next episode.
This was a question I had myself with the lower coal siding looking steeper, but it's an optical illusion because of the curve in the track and the split for the depot sidings. Measuring the lower coal siding, it is 3%.
So, are you still using the old Station Road layout? It was a gorgeous layout when I first saw it!!
The old layout is part of the current layout. Essentially it's the same layout that has grown and morphed over the years.
Looking good
Surely you are not going to make the same mistake as Charlie and not have a turntable.
Also "TMD" is not a term used in the 1960s, what year is your railway set?
I did consider a turntable but scrapped the thought, they are quite space hungry. I just use the term 'TMD' as it's quicker say, and I'm not to hung up on correct terminology in general. The layout has quite a broad era from the late 50's to the early 70's.