ASUS ROG StarCraft 2 tournament on Assembly Winter 2012 Helsinki, Finland 24.-25.2.2012 Finals Stephano vs Polt Game 2 -- SETT TV recording - j-tv.me/z5pcnQ
Dude, I agree. Terran aren't too strong initially, BUT if you let them grow properly with the proper and effective use of their units they can combat the other two races sufficiently. Plus Terran are more challenging to play as it takes more effort in strategizing their units, but are, as well, bountiful in the end.
@StormyDmaster you did not mention that toss will win EVERY game by gas rushing: take a geyser in opponent main and put a cannon on it (its nexus ability that only costs energy) its auto gg also swarm hosts are hard countered by void rays
With the firing rate of marines plus medivac support, he practically played his end game. Banshees are good for ground support anyway as well as worker harassment.
@trbot you can put arc shields on pylons and assimilators. (those are the 50 nexus energy cannons that 2 shot workers). and void rays hard counter swarm hosts - easy as that. if you dont understand it (saying its ridiculous) i will explain it to your powerful mind: swarm hosts cannot attack air. void rays can attack ground. got it? whats ridiculous is someone claiming, that massing a unit, that cant attack air, is auto win.
@trbot you are right about that. but i dont think that the zerg just went mass roaches there. but maybe. but since voidray does bonus to armored it would still seem more reasonable to me to go mass speedling so voids cant charge up so well. maybe voids will only counter mass roach if you KNOW your opponent wont make anything different. dunno. i would not recommend mass roach vs mass void ray. but youre right. take map and basetrade sounds reasonable.
if u ask most of terran player, they'll simply say "it's the only race that can be played with a starter ver". It'll also be my answer if u ask me. And terran race is a bit unique. They're not so strong as protoss but not as weak as a zerg. I think it's a very effective-focus race.
@StrajderVilinkameni yes, i would say that banelings counter marines. if the banes are controlled poorly or the marines are controlled supremely then what you described can happen. but you can at least force the marines to back off. idra, as much as i admire his skill, often seems to try to go with his head through the wall. maybe he over-committed. maybe its was slow banes maybe its was off creep. if you just say "the game where TLO 7 raxed idra", its a guessing game.
My frind is trying to convert me from Command and Conquer, ive always been a C&C fan since back on the nintendo64 and i enjoy watchin kanes wrath tourneys but i really am having trouble seeing this game appealing, it just doesnt feel like home, i hope actually playing motivates me more but i have my doubts... :(
@sidekick1024 i think you guys are just arguing just cause but i do agree there are no counters there is just units effecive versus otherunits good controll is the only counter you need amazing controll
Still the Thor and Siege Tanks remain overpowered. Those people who think Terran will be totally underpowered in HotS just don't know the potential of Terrans.
@trbot youre kinda funny. we should play a game: i go mass void ray and you go mass roach... lol you really think you will win? against mass voidray you go infestor corruptor! mass roach is just gonna DIE. and no - i didnt hear dustin browder say that - i just played the maps where you can use the hots units. and there you can put arc shields on anything. my point was, that someone said swarm hosts are auto gg when massed - and the first thing i thought of was "just go air". so i said voidray.
i know how to beat both of thease guys well polt when heart of the swarm comes out zerg+terran are OP for a while whil protoss are just anti mutalisk and scouters swarm hosts can kill everything 1 swarm host=1 infinite warrior 50 swarm hosts+50 warriors that kill and kill and kill 100 swarm hosts= GG
I always laugh about how people whine that terran is over powered whats going to happen with heart of the swarm comes out and the zerg get a massive boost?
@StrajderVilinkameni i dont know more about the game than day9. you can try to put words in my mouth all day, buddy. i said what i said. if you think there are no unit counters, you can try to go lings vs zealots, when you should have made roaches and wonder why you lose the game. also: if you say "roaches counter zealots", day9 would certainly not disagree.
i always come back to this video, was one of the first casts i ever heard
love the casts and the dialogue!
Love how well mannered Stephano is
Dude, I agree. Terran aren't too strong initially, BUT if you let them grow properly with the proper and effective use of their units they can combat the other two races sufficiently. Plus Terran are more challenging to play as it takes more effort in strategizing their units, but are, as well, bountiful in the end.
omg these matches are so good
@StormyDmaster you did not mention that toss will win EVERY game by gas rushing: take a geyser in opponent main and put a cannon on it (its nexus ability that only costs energy)
its auto gg
also swarm hosts are hard countered by void rays
With the firing rate of marines plus medivac support, he practically played his end game. Banshees are good for ground support anyway as well as worker harassment.
@StrajderVilinkameni who said anything about mass void ray?
@trbot you can put arc shields on pylons and assimilators. (those are the 50 nexus energy cannons that 2 shot workers).
and void rays hard counter swarm hosts - easy as that. if you dont understand it (saying its ridiculous) i will explain it to your powerful mind: swarm hosts cannot attack air. void rays can attack ground. got it?
whats ridiculous is someone claiming, that massing a unit, that cant attack air, is auto win.
This game was unbelievable o_O
how much did they paid you for casting this game biscuit?
@trbot you are right about that. but i dont think that the zerg just went mass roaches there. but maybe. but since voidray does bonus to armored it would still seem more reasonable to me to go mass speedling so voids cant charge up so well. maybe voids will only counter mass roach if you KNOW your opponent wont make anything different.
dunno. i would not recommend mass roach vs mass void ray. but youre right. take map and basetrade sounds reasonable.
if u ask most of terran player, they'll simply say "it's the only race that can be played with a starter ver". It'll also be my answer if u ask me.
And terran race is a bit unique. They're not so strong as protoss but not as weak as a zerg.
I think it's a very effective-focus race.
ok at around 12 mins, both players are stacking about 2000 minerals
what are they doing???
AMAZING game.
ya, it's a beautiful game
@StrajderVilinkameni believe it or not - starcraft is alot about what is strong against what. those relations are called "counters".
so...who won?
@StrajderVilinkameni yes, i would say that banelings counter marines. if the banes are controlled poorly or the marines are controlled supremely then what you described can happen. but you can at least force the marines to back off.
idra, as much as i admire his skill, often seems to try to go with his head through the wall. maybe he over-committed. maybe its was slow banes maybe its was off creep. if you just say "the game where TLO 7 raxed idra", its a guessing game.
freaking awesome
Wow... Stephano looks invincible. I just don't know how Polt even managed to defeat him.
@Poduke04 its good that ghost are nerfed coz they cost so little and broodlords are so expensive but ghost beat broodlords.
My frind is trying to convert me from Command and Conquer, ive always been a C&C fan since back on the nintendo64 and i enjoy watchin kanes wrath tourneys but i really am having trouble seeing this game appealing, it just doesnt feel like home, i hope actually playing motivates me more but i have my doubts... :(
He came from the future. from march of 2013...
thanks?
the thing that i don't understand is why polt didn't make something like banshees
I clicked on the hand with thumbs up cause I can
@sidekick1024 i think you guys are just arguing just cause but i do agree there are no counters there is just units effecive versus otherunits good controll is the only counter you need amazing controll
Its called skill bro
don't know what star craft is but looks a bit sloww
how about not spoiling the game in the top comments?
Still the Thor and Siege Tanks remain overpowered. Those people who think Terran will be totally underpowered in HotS just don't know the potential of Terrans.
Sad to see so little views
oo interesting my computer went to screen saver right as TB said gg :)
Terran FTW
I think Stephano is good, but he is just milking Zerg in a way that it shouldn't be milked.
@trbot youre kinda funny. we should play a game: i go mass void ray and you go mass roach... lol you really think you will win?
against mass voidray you go infestor corruptor!
mass roach is just gonna DIE.
and no - i didnt hear dustin browder say that - i just played the maps where you can use the hots units. and there you can put arc shields on anything. my point was, that someone said swarm hosts are auto gg when massed - and the first thing i thought of was "just go air". so i said voidray.
tanks so op :S
i know how to beat both of thease guys well polt when heart of the swarm comes out zerg+terran are OP for a while whil protoss are just anti mutalisk and scouters swarm hosts can kill everything 1 swarm host=1 infinite warrior 50 swarm hosts+50 warriors that kill and kill and kill 100 swarm hosts= GG
i skipped the bronze as soon as they wouldnt shut up about stephano.
I always laugh about how people whine that terran is over powered whats going to happen with heart of the swarm comes out and the zerg get a massive boost?
lol beating stephano deserved a congratz
Terran all the way!!!!
if terran is weakest then why does 85% of sc players stick with terran?
@seniorfluffy13 lol'd. its 1 2 terran vs 2 2 zerg and a hell lot of splash dmg. no magic
how dare u diss apollo
@StrajderVilinkameni i dont know more about the game than day9. you can try to put words in my mouth all day, buddy. i said what i said.
if you think there are no unit counters, you can try to go lings vs zealots, when you should have made roaches and wonder why you lose the game.
also: if you say "roaches counter zealots", day9 would certainly not disagree.
@rawrcoppter Polt is OP...not the tank.
this must be Apollo commentating eh? :)
he hase 12'312'039 Ultras and NON MUTA......wtf
where are the haters? lol
I have to respect players that choose terran. I believe terran is the weakest race and now even more so with the nerfed ghosts.
@StormyDmaster rllly it is easy u need to just destroy zerg before he gets 50 of them
terran op max terran with no upgrades vs max zerg with 2 2
yeah, but still :/
@Poduke04 trollolo
terran can't fight straitgh fights they nee to drop every time when they fight to inflict damage to the opponent
fried spam
so empty in here... let the spamming begin!
you are Korean and you can't play like that? Oo Impossibru ;O
Terran so cheap compared to zerg.