Will Boris Johnson's Brexit plan fly?
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- This week Boris Johnson unveils his proposal for a deal, but how has it gone down in the EU?
In conversation with Gary this week are Peter Foster, Europe Editor of the Daily Telegraph - the man who first brought you a leak of the deal - and James Kirkup, director for the Social Market Foundation, but before that writing about politics at The Telegraph.
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The guy on the right looks like he just woke in a dumpster outside a rock venue on the forth day of a drinking bender then suddenly realised he had an interview booked. This is the best Brexit discussion I've seen in weeks ! :) LOL
Except for the fact that both sides are not represented. All they have discussed are the problems with Brexit. They presented Remoaner arguments on a Remoaner's network.
@@PGO_Gaming We've heard from BoJo, who said he'd rather be dead in a ditch. And for once I would not disagree with him.
Black Bull
That's because Brexit only has problems and no benefits, at least in reality. This may be perceived differently by some individuals, but serious real life problems are typically discussed on the basis of reality, not illusions.
And still makes more sense than most politicians in Westminster.
@@docmalthus Just like he would lie in front of the bulldozer if they went ahead with a new runway at Heathrow. Still that's good old Bojers an untrustworthy POS.
The guy on the right looks like he's got brexit fever.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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terry C That was just what I was s thinking. What a face! I think he’s got a bad hangover
ha ha ha
It’s highly contagious!
".. the absolute inability of the UK to make fact-based decisions on it´s future!" That about describes the whole misery in a nutshell!
I've never seen a more tired man in my life.
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Have you ever been to an airport
@@MrStarsuicide All the time George. I use them when I fly to other countries.
I'd bet he was given that jacket by Channel Four.
Om gosh. Who is that?! Why is he nodding off on TV? That's how my son looked in church two weeks ago in the 2nd row of the church. 😂😂😂
James Kirkup looks like he needs to catch up on the sleep his ancestors missed
M Allsorts sounds like it too
Love it
"Will Boris Johnson's Brexit plan fly?" Answer. Not without a zipline. And even then it will probably get stuck.😂🤣
It will fly....it booked with Thomas Cook :-)
Remaining is our only option. Lying Tories.
there'll be one with a pin
@@clairduffy60 unlikely. Parliament doesn't run the country London City does. Do you think a City that took out the Monarchy in the Civil War would lose its stock market to a EU Frankfurt? You know that the London has 25% of global wealth stored in trusts and tax havens? You think London would allow the EU to touch that..... here's a history lesson for you London has been a power house since the fall of Rome. The Empire didn't end it transformed. They will be a push to a Commonwealth union after we leave the EU that way London can keep taking money from Africa and stop China moving in (they have built military and police bases in Africa) and messing around with the wealth the Elite steal. The EU is broke the Euro was designed to strengthen Germany but it messed up because the "Brits" vetoed tax reforms we bought cheese and cars while the Elite stored thier money in London. People say leavers are uninformed 🤣🤣🤣. Remain or Leave it's just an illusion of choice to hide the fact we are all slaves to the banks.
It will fly straight into the garbage bin.
DEAR CHANNEL 4: please can you Tag videos like this with "Gary Gibbon"? He's an excellent political commentator, and the sole reason I watch your channel. He deserves his own show and/or podcast. At least include his name in the title.
THANK YOU.
The dude on the right looks like he's having some sort of breakdown
Sleep deprivation?
😂😂😂
I wonder how many MP's got addicted on uppers because of Brexit.
Q: Will Boris Johnson's Brexit plan fly? A: No.
We're leaving anyway.
Here's "the deal". We're leaving. So on October 31, 2019, I think we should get Noel Edmonds to do a TV show called "Deal or Deal". And it should be broadcast live from Deal. Deal?
@@manjay49
Deal.
@@jasondevon481 are we? :D nahhhh... do not think so
@@manjay49 I like the prospect of getting Noel Edmonds involved!! This would make it even more entertaining :D
Will the plan fly?
Short answer: No.
Long answer:
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
It's not meant to fly, when it smacks you in the face like the Prorogation did🤣🤣mugs 31 we are out DO OR DIE
@@prof2bobajob.klonded5 I don't quite follow where you're going with this. In what way did prorogation smack ME in the face?
@@cinderball1135 well you did not see it coming did you
@@prof2bobajob.klonded5 Euh, yes I did. Everybody saw it coming. Johnson only mooted doing it for *months* in advance...
How can eliminating poor workers de stabilising? Explain
James Kirkup (right) is cracking me up! He speaks/drinks for all of us.
Someone go and get that guy a double espresso and a Mars bar...he's about to flake out!
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I was thinking strong drink would be in order ?
I can understand the double espresso but why the Mars bar? 😆
@@Evan490BC he needs to Work, Rest & Play ;)
The guy on the right looks like he hasn't slept since the referendum
Rip London and parliment on the 31st.
Sad day for London and England.
Black Philip
Probably nobody ever told you, but you are an independent nation.
@@frankschneider6156 you would like to think so.
Boris speaks with forked tongue either by intent or natural ignorance of trade and customs regime. Unworkable proposal
The incredible bulk and his band of merry Eton deceivers are in pay of billionaires
@@blackphilip8936 nonsense, Boris has just pledged he will ask for an extension
@@jacobjorgenson9285 yea 5min extension to mug you lot off 🤣🤣🤣🤣🖕
@old mutt 1 oh I get it!
@@prof2bobajob.klonded5 2030
It will fly like a pig with a Tory hanging out of it.
The guy on the right has a terrible hangover.
we must maintain access to the single market.
... especially amsterdam.
- guy on the right.
It's Tommy Wiseau's long lost brother.
I think he's a brexit disorder
How come Peter is so informed and clear about the realities here; but his paper inflames with wild rhetoric?
really would like to see him to answer that question!!!!
That is what I wondered about also!
Some terrific analysis here, well done this time channel four
Trouble is the guy (left) is talking rubbish - or lies, depending if it is deliberate or not. His Customs thoughts are just RUBBISH wrong, lies.
Guy on the right has been awake since 2016. He's even wearing the same cloths he had on in 2016. The more this video goes on the more i come to realize the guy on the right is a fucking legend!
They were both very good. I really liked listening to their comments!
Seconded! I've looked like this at work for the last 20 years! He represents the will of the people … to just hold our s**t together until the pubs open again...! LOL :)
1. Watches video. 2. Thinks: "This probably has some intelligent comments under it." 3. Wades through hundreds of Mr Bean references. 4. Suddenly understands Brexit in its tragic entirety.
Love how the comments are all just roasting James Kirkup
The man on the right keeps rolling his eyes back into his head,he keeps sipping coffee as he does this,he looks like hes fighting the effects of some strong weed
I suppose he could be blind or partially sighted...?
He doesn't Iron his shirt for TV either.
He is certainly his own man.
The guy on the right is not drunk or hungover he is just tired of repeating himself because nobody is listening! That’s Brexit
9:48 Excellent! "Campaign in poetry, BREXIT in prose !" Brilliant!
The guy on the right is Mr Bean.
Man on the right deffo looks like he has been up all night.
hmmmmmmm-magic!
"But will it fly!" Boris shouted into the crowd.
He held up high what looked to be a turd with pigeon feathers stuck into it.
Everyone is holding their breath as he let's go of Britain's future...
... it floats majestically...
... and slams into the ground.
And then crowds roar, they slay, they all say:
"BLAME THE EU"
Ha! Ha!
Dry your tears its coming tick tock tick tock😂🤣🤣🖕
Nope. He will get an extension. As ive said 100 times. Were not leaving on the 31st.
@transit journal You should ask BJ that.
The second guy looks as a very tired Brexit negotiator.. and makes no-sense.
The gentleman on the right doesn't look too well
Yes sick of the left .
The fellow on the right must have Mr. Bean somewhere in his family.
Put your hands together for "The guy on the right" comment section!
The guy on the right is the physical manifestation of Brexit 😂
James Kirkuk needs drug testing or he’s had one to many
You meant "," rather than "or"
Best analysis I’ve heard so far. Well done Channel 4.
Boris Johnson is like the captain of the Titanic that thinks the heat of his invective and the warmth of his charm will melt the iceberg before we hit it.
Eye and it was a left wingers lump of whiskey ice that the ship hit
Thanks Gary, without you I´ld never understood a scrap of this Brexit novel.
Indeed! Written June 2016.
The whole "Boris" thing is silly. He's called Alexander Johnson. His friends call him Alex. Both of them.
I love all your comments M R. Keep going, don't take any prisoners!
Mom and dad arent considered to be called friends.
Which is a good reason to keep calling the man Boris or even Bojo. You wouldn't want to be mistaken for one of his friends.
@Amanda Hughes Your real name isn't Amanda Hughes. That's really obvious!
@Amanda Hughes Very funny! I keep asking you what the other one is and you keep shutting up, Olga!
The guy on the right is rambling like he's still pissed from the night before and looks like death
Is the guy on the right Mr Bean's brother, (also Mr Bean )?
Wouldn't it be a great movie, "Mr Bean's Brexit"
I gave myself a stitch laughing at that.
Guy on right looks like he got hammered and is on black coffee. 😁
"It's fight club"
bloke on the right needs to talk to frank.
Hahaha the guy to the right.... 1:00 ... That's the eyes of Mr. Bean.
Brexit eye it's called in these times
@@jacobjorgenson9285 haha!
The guy on the right didn't get any sleep last night because he was reading all the 'guy on the right' comments underneath this video
I like this one!! Serious, mature, yet humble talk!
Love it 💗💗💗
From Ohio, USA. In all that I have been listening the last week+, my question is: Is the goal of the DPU and BoJo to return to bombs and Troops in Northern Ireland? Aside from all the other issues and there are plenty, I just listen and think, those old school Catholics and old school Protestants want to get back to the “good old days.”
is the guy in the right ....right? looks very tired,ill, drunk...or all three😟
Permanently leave northern Ireland in the EU for trade. They didn't want to leave the EU at all so shouldn't have an issue with it. Simple.
A Kelly That would actually solve the bulk of issues but how’s a Tory government supposed to make that fly? They’re the Conservative and Unionist Party. That’s not even getting into the DUP specifically, or unionists in general.
@@beane6426 It''s only for trade then checks done coming into mainland like any other EU import. Exports to northern Ireland from mainland UK have to met EU regulations but sounds a lot less hassle than dealing with any sort of boarder within Ireland.
You know we prefer 'Cockwomble' not 'BoJo' right? Just saying. Peace...
Gary this is an excellent series. Calm, intelligent, conversation with people who seem to know what they are talking about. Good work - thanks to all involved.
Bottom line, in todays world things have become very integrated. We have so many complex ties to EU, it is impossible to just cut those ties quickly & cleanly without huge disruption to the English, Scottish, Welsh & Irish economies. What ever happens, other than staying in the EU trading block or closely aligned to it, is going to take a long time to untangle & sort out.
MR Spoon exactly, northern Ireland is on the frontline of this nightmare. Boris says TWO borders is now his solution. The UK now means the Unicorn Kingdom, where all sorts of fantasmagorical things are possible. Sadly, those things dont exist in the real world.
I love these in-depth Brexit analysis. I can't say James Kirkup, the guy on the right, feels the same.
Obsession never flys.
So there are sane people left in the UK media after all..
It is not that difficult. Split up the UK, Wales independent, Northern Ireland independent , Scotland independent, England can leave, the other countries can decide for themselves.
Guys I think Boris deal is good - but having looked at the entire situation - I have come up with a way of Keeping NI in the single market and customs union, Ireland in the EU and no boarders between the two nations... which I think is a bit better than what our beloved Prime minister currently has...
If you will like to discuss it - send me a message and I can make myself available.
Advance Britannia...
I live in Somaliland; what is the problem if the Uk make another referendum? the UK was grandfather,s and grandmother,s government and I would say don,t leave from European members
According to some, another referendum would go against the results of the first referendum and thus be undemocratic ("hold votes until you get the result you want").
Then there is the issue that people are so fed up with the current situation and just want to get it over with, which could make another referendum 'unfair' and not in the spirit of things.
On top of that Brexit is a REALLY COMPLICATED matter, meaning you cannot expect the average person to get a full grasp of it all - how can you somebody vote in good conscience if they do not know what the consequences of their vote will be.
And finally... there is the question on *what* the referendum should be about.
Revoke vs leave with a deal? Hardline brexiteers are unhappy.
Revoke vs no deal? Moderate leavers are unhappy.
Deal vs no deal? Remainers are unhappy.
Revoke vs deal vs no deal? Everyone is unhappy because votes will be split.
Should it be legally binding or only advisory (like the first)?
When is it going to be held; before or after an election?
Is there even enough time to hold one?
Lot's of questions. No answers. Welcome to Brexit land.
As a Frenchman, I find it quite difficult to understand why the British people are so divided about Brexit. It was the choice of the People, wasn’t it? You belong to a great Kingdom that will survive and prosper whatever happens, be it a Brexit without a deal. Of course, if this is indeed the final outcome of the EU-UK negotiation, we will all have to brace for serious turbulences but they will only represent an epiphenomenon. In fact, I believe that these turbulences could even be greatly attenuated if you put a qualified PM at the helm of the Kingdom. I am not completely convinced that M. Johnson is the right man for such a task but I might be wrong and I am certainly not in the best position to judge that; the point is that the quicker you recover from the initial shock, the better for you and us. In the longer term, the wealthier the UK will become, the better for the EU as well. Your future prosperity will never be a threat for the cohesion of the Union because its existential quest has nothing to do with wealth.More anecdotally, I must confess that, as an aerospace engineer, I also find it a bit strange that nobody seems to care about the fact that some of the Aerospace Industry key players will want to relocate on the continent if the UK leaves the EU without a deal. For reasons which are apparently not obvious to everyone, this particular Industry is inclined to consider any attempt to hamper its supply chains as a mortal threat. However it is probably a detail, at the scale of the British Economy - it would certainly not be so, at the scale of the French Economy. Anyway, one can have no doubt in the capacity of your Kingdom to compensate this loss by developing other highly profitable sectors; the UK is and will remain a World Power.And, voilà, that’s it. We will continue to move forward on our respective trajectories. We will obviously remain Friends and Allies because the UK is not going to drift away from the European continent. In one century, the Union territory will extend from Lisbon to Vladivostok. The Army of the Union will be in charge of guaranteeing Peace on the largest emerged land of the planet, in total accordance with the will of its founding fathers (amongst whom, Sir Winston Churchill). This is the natural course of History. Obviously, drastic reforms will have to be undertaken, but there is no other way out, since we need Peace and since we are willing to impose it. Needless to say, the UK will be welcomed to rejoin the Union at any time and without any condition, if it happens to be the wish of the British People.The only thing that could threaten our Friendship is a UK ultranationalist government trying to demolish the EU project from the outside. Considering the level of hatred toward the EU that I perceive in the words of a few British ultranationalists, this hypothesis cannot be entirely ruled out. However, such a heedless attempt would be bound for defeat because its perpetrators would have failed to comprehend the fundamental reason that was at the origin of the EU project, that is to say, PEACE. If you do not fully comprehend this yourself, go visit the Verdun military cemetery, or the Étaples British military cemetery - these brave British soldiers have now become sons of France, by the Blood Spilled. These places are haunting all the minds, young and old. Once you have wandered around these rows and rows of crosses and unless you are not completely indifferent to human suffering, you never remain completely the same; sometimes their mere existence hits you back while you are living happy times and it ruins your day in a few seconds. I let you imagine how they have invaded the souls of the nearby towns’ inhabitants. These places are obscene reminders of what has been, a few decades ago, war on the continent.These same ultranationalists - be they British or continental European - will tell you that Peace was not the reason for which the founding fathers did create the European Union and that Peace is only maintained by nuclear warheads. My answer to these enraged people is that I am proud to belong to the People of France, a Nation armed to the teeth and resolutely ready to have any irresponsible revisionist answer for his acts before a Court of the Republic.Therefore and because of the imperious necessity of maintaining Peace and Stability on the continent, any attempt by an ultranationalist UK government to destroy the European project from the outside could and would not be tolerated; the reaction of the Union would be so coercive in nature that it would brutally force these fools to recover their senses.Fortunately, I believe that the risk of seeing such a scenario unfolding is almost nil because the British people will never forget what their soldiers were fighting against, in 39-45. After the Brexit, the great People of the UK will undoubtly recover the phlegm, the pragmatism and the politeness that the entire world has always been envying and admiring. Everybody, you and us, will then fully integrate the fundamental interests we have in cooperating on the right terms. Long life to the European Union-British Friendship.
4:47 cant that guy keep his face straight?
For the love of fecking God can someone in the British media learn how to say "Taoiseach" Here's a hint it's not THEE SHOK
T-Shock? no - more like Ti Schach then?
@@kleinweichkleinweich Depends where you live in Ireland but Ti-Shoch is the closest
Mossie Gee Still, “Tee-Shock” is pretty acceptable.
@@vercoda9997 Sigh....no hard 'K' at the end that's the whole point
@@mossiegee4674 the 'ch' thing is easy -mach ich gern
Great program. I have learnt a lot for a change.
ITS ALL BS.
The Torygraph .Good point , the more it goes up in Brussels the more it goes down in Parliament .
Why not put it to the people of Northern Ireland whether they want to belong to the single market or whether they want to belong to whatever trade deal the UK will come up with
so how do we move forwards?
Well, we do live in a democracy, so now that all the facts are known and public, maybe ask the people ifd they are sure this is what they voted for... Dis-united Kingdom, with no extra money for the NHS, factories closing, and a shrinking service sector (so less tax, so less money for services, so more austerity)...
Oh, and even fewer shops to spend what little you have left in!
The baddie from thunderbirds🤓
Extremely clear vision on what is going on here
this is probably Channel 4's strongest format: having two people talk to Gary Gibbon as equals (who assume familiarity with the complex issues involved) elicits higher level analysis than when journalists talking straight to camera feel they have to dumb down their coverage so that the 'average' viewer at home can follow it.
So entertaining seeing this theater. Talking about a fairy tale as it were a serious proposal 😀. Tragic for UK, entertaining for the world.
Prepare for a general election "Let's get Brexit NOT in the BBC Christmas Schedule" slogan.
Welcome to the Unicorn Kingdom, where all things can be possible! Northern Ireland can have 2 borders whilst having no borders all at the same time. Thanks Boris & pals for this cunning plan
We will blame the eu for the one board they will build, after boris mugs you of again. tick tock tick tock🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LLT Collection why dont they go with open borders in Ireland. Have everything checked in the Irish Sea. Then all they have to do is onboard the ships, which take a few hours of sailing, the UK can check the cargos & allow goods from NI manufacturers duty free into England.
No. And he knows it.
My man on the right is monging it. Watching him talk is making me tired.
Forget the 'guy on the right'.
Does anybody have anything to say on what they said? They put out all the problems of the backstop which should have been publicised before the referendum. For any other country to leave the EU it's relatively simple. For UK leaving the EU risks bringing the The Troubles back. The adult thing to do would have been to remain and make eu work better if you are not happy with it. Bit too late for that now.
Just give up the colony. End of problem
Nope!
It’s so clear that the very best deal we can get is the one we got now
You miss the point we do not need a deal to trade wiith the EU they trade all over the world on WTO terms so why should we pay billions let out siders decide our world trade and allow EU nationalsd freedom from our UK courts when they breck our laws.
Great--now they're talking about Northern Ireland and the republic getting dragged down the referendum rabbit-hole. How could that possibly go wrong?
I would like to see a deep analysis of the formulation of the referendum. I would like to see a discussion about the questions that the referendum asked the people to vote and an analysis of these questions to see if they were comparable each other and with same weight.
Poor tired smart man. If he could replace all the sounds he made with understandable words, we would get more out of him.
This is so insightful. I now see no landing zone in sight. In theory leaving NI in the Single Market would work but only if Britain maintained regulatory equivalence. NI in, Britain out can work for goods but not services. Otherwise how could say an architect, a vet or a lawyer train in NI then go to work in UK?
@Benghali In Platforms Pure bullshit. The whole concept of the Belfast Agreement is the principle of consent. i.e. one side of community does not drag the other into an arrangement without majority in both communities. Allowing the DUP to decide the irrevocable future of Northern Ireland against the will of the majority is tantamount to tearing up the Belfast Agreement. This is anti democratic in the extreme. A referendum in NI on remaining in the Single Market would pass by a majority in both communities.
There is no need for an Irish backstop if the border controls are made in English ports as they should be since it is a lot easier than at the physical border with the Republic. The closed container idea is not just moronic, it’s like a dumb joke. Oh well, the DUP would not support checks at ports. And Boris is giving the DUP the keys to Ireland. Seriously ? I say dump the DUP, get such a deal through parliament and call for new elections. The DUP played so much against Northern Ireland and for Brexit that they’ll get levelled out at a general election.
In any negotiation ,if you cant get a an agreement on both sides you simply walk away
If the EU ends up having qualms about kicking out an unruly partner nation refusing to follow the EU rules of the other member countries. It is the end of the EU. Vote SDP
Bozo's deal will fly to the moon together with unicorns and pink pigs!
Wouldn't usually comment like this but he did say it twice.... Northern Ireland has a population of 1.8 million people, not 3 million.
So refreshing to have people who know what they’re talking about
The guy on the right has been interviewing Jennifer Arcuri for the last 5 days..
The Guy on the right is Parker from thunderbird
I had no idea Martin Freeman knew so much about the internal workings of the EU! A man of surprises :p
Hahahahahahaha!!
HE DOESN'T.
@@malteseowl hehe :p
But what about a secret ballot amongst MPs on a second referendum????
The thing about democracy, is that to be able to vote for an MP, you need to know what they stand for. How do secret ballots assist in that?
Tunnel of negotiations? Another deceitful phrasing. There's an ocean wide of negotiation possibilities.
dodo's were birds that couldn't fly and became extinct..bojo's plan can't fly either and will go the same way as the dodo
Well, as you are unable to behave rationally, the EU should under no circunstances allow you another useless delay so you could stop your usual bla bla bla and force your parliament to vote on a simple question.
Leaving with mays deal or leaving with no deal.
If you are unable to vote on such a simple question then the EU should kick you out for mental sanity.
The poor guy on the left should go home and have a long sleep for a few days
Do you mean the other left?
get it done
build that
house
If from the 27 EU countries one gonna reject the extension in that case Uk gonna fall out without no deal. If Boris made a deal behind the scenes with Hungary in that case Boris is probably gonna ask for an extension as a tactic and when the EU countries gonna vote with one veto Uk will fall out from the EU without a deal. With that tactic Boris don`t have to worry about the House of Commons, with simply one single veto gonna kick Uk out from the EU.
Sorry James, the whole for Britain to be in the EU was economical. Britain never shared the political vision of the EU. It was Britain that essentially just made the EU into a common market and nothing else. So naturally talk is about that. These are the essential questions for actual people working and living in NI and elsewhere... it's not getting "hung up"... BTW, sorry for your bad hang over at the interview - must have been painful from the looks of it.
Lets see Boris' new trade deal with America!
That he will NEVER get if he shafts Ireland. The USA is run by the Irish.
The guy on the right makes me feel like I need to sleep, but I just woke up after 8 hours of sleep
In all your considerations you don't take into account there are 500 million EU citizens who are totally fed up by the british chaos. And their patience is already strained, as there are many more important things to decide in Europe than this mess made of ignorance and arrogance. We'll push our governments to finally give you a kick. Promised.