As a professional drywaller I use the 10in fatboy box to run the joints and the 12in to get the butt joints on the first coat. And if you use a 10in box u want to make the joints hollow so when you do skim the next coat with the 12in box in comes out super flat. You applying it and wiping afterwards. Your waiting time and money. That's why we have things called sanders!
@@surinamel5708 how do you do it? My hubby was trained 25 years ago the old school way so we only just learning about these type of tools now. Anything to save time means doing a house a lot faster. But we keen to learn the best way. With out sacrificing quality
@@robloxuserislavendarsbesti832 I have used these machines for twenty two years and still use them ,for production they are necessary .The best method is AFTER using the 12 inch box,skim by hand for top quality.
I can only speak for my tapetech. I use a 7 and a 10. I fill flat with my 7, check with a new knife. If any mud on the knife it’s too much. Use my 10 next and check. When it’s dry it’s flat and smooth, what more is there to say/do? Ready for texture or sanding. My little tip is I run about 400 sheets on the blade and then flip it over and it’s another new blade. Blades don’t perform well it seems after 400 sheets.
The boxes are designed to be a finishing tool you shouldn't have to run over your joint with a knife and take the crown out of it so that you end up with pin holes in your topping because you're filling with topping instead of skim coating
Im the only guy i know where i am who wipes behind box (only my twelve box tho) but it absolutely produces a better product, on 8 or 10 i agree, but i go 10 no wipe 12 wipe, and it looks amazing, its just like chasing with the box but i find it faster to wipe and it looks better personally
First thing why the six inch box. You only need a 10in and a 12in. And why is he wiping the mud off after he put it on? Your hand it's not near as steady as that box.
After you skim over the joints using the box tool what do you do with the rest of the board and reveals? Do you skim the board where it's not close to a joint or a reveal? In UK they tend to skim the entire wall with a brown/red type of plaster.
you just leave it, in Australia only for a level 5 finish you would skim the entire wall. Its needs a good sealer undercoat rolled onto it to blend as well. I get them perfect after paint, but the painter plays a big part in the finish of the drywall. Yeah in the UK some of the thick plaster on walls looks like a complete mess but its a different climate here in Australia.. Hey Martin you should subscribe!
@@Maxkil I’ve watched many videos , most videos I see , have that gap for crown. That’s a lot of crown. Do you know why all that crown is used ? Here in Texas, even where’s there’s crown specked, every thing gets taped. And the drywall is always hung tight in the corners.
He shouldn't have to wipe it down with knife afterward should he?....whole point of using a box is to tape it right and in one pass I thought....his box leaves alot excess mud over side
Just gets rid of any air bubbles and flattens it right out. I think it's good to do. I see many people don't think it's needed, but you can see looking down the joint while it's being done how much better it makes it. It also feathers the joint when you change direction. Sometimes you get some debris it you have to run along next to a cut out and can cause it to scratch, wiping after solves all of those woes...
Do you think air bubbles will show on the finish coat if you don't blade off the second coat? Where you from Adelaide? Adjust your box so it is flat! The composition of base coat is heavier than topcoat, thats why you have to wipe the shit runs around the shits to thick! starts to set... Theres no happy medium.. @@Maxkil
We wipe down too, only we box with 10” then skim with 12” then were done. Wiping down allows you to fill all the way into the corner and knock down lift offs.
How wide is that box? We usually do our fill coat with a 10" box. Does that get it flat enough? I agree with chasing the box work with a broad knife to fill in the gap along the angles . Gets rid of tape photographing and most lap marks too.
Really love your videos !Being an old plasterer and drywall finisher i really enjoy checking out all the great videos you guys do !! Keep up the great work !! You guys must use a lot of crown moulding ?
Same with us. Hubby was trained 25 years ago and still plastering the old school way with trowels, he only just discovering these tools. They still save time and time is money so I told him to go buy them.
Can anyone tell me why he prefilled the cylinder of the pump ..before putting it back together and then pumping mud thru it? Would love to know if this helps with something significant..I would just throw the pump in the bucket and go???
I'm just gettin into the boxes but from what I understand it primes the pump. sometimes it won't pump out if you don't put a small amount in if it is clean
He did what would take me two days. Minus the cursing, the pissed off, the stress, the dirty mess, the going over it twice or 3x lol. Then finally just getting so upset I just go home. In literally like 10 minutes lol
Hello I am a fan of your RUclips program since I work the same here in Spain I am from Honduras and I want to ask for your help I want to know where I can find the tools that you use for the curb and the caulking since here I do not know where the can Find I hope they send me
@@Maxkil Those that are used to pull tapes with the farmhouse and the other long ones that I used in that first use one to pull the tape then another long one to crush it and then the other that covers the whole tape
That’s a good box for no coat off set angles wouldn’t use it for flats though. A typical bevel is just over 2” and that box is 5.5” he has super accurate to fill the bevel properly. Not quite enough mud and he wipes it down to leave even less mud 🤷🏻♂️. I don’t get it
@@chrisj197438 I skimmed for years just like that before seeing a sheetrock brand video on here showing a guy doing it and I still catch a lot of help from old heads until they see the finish. Gotta take all your screens out of your sprayer and clean really good tho.
Cmq ottimo e pratico, spettacolo, ma cmq buono per prime mani, le altri devi andare di gomito e allargarsi sulle tracce... Prime mani pulite e da spettacolo. Good
There's really no need to wipe the flat at all, just clean up your stopping points, you're wiping too much compound out of the recess. Leave in there, that way when you put the final skin coat on you are skimming.. not filling. Very clean work however!
Yeah so it's not that hard once you do a few joints like a few walls you know the ideal pressure to put and if you go over it with a blade afterwards it makes everything good anyway so really it's not too hard at all and definitely can get a better coat on your first and second go then doing by hand learning for a year.
I run tools Dailey. The hardest thing for me to teach a new guy is how to not fight the tools. It really is easy if you let the tools do the work. My guy 3 months in now is running my boxes and learning to walk stilts and run my bazooka. Tech. Is key. Learn that and take it in
The boxes are a finishing tool you're on the right track when you're using a 6 or 7 inch box first to fill the rebate then an 8 inch box and then a 10 or 12 inch box whichever you prefer you end up with a perfect joint but if you practice a little more you're able to go over the joint without following up with the paddle if you have a faster mixer you can buy a jiffler which has blades breaks down the lumps better using the pump you get very very few bags in your mix and you don't need to pavlova it the paddles remove the crown out of the joint and you end up with pin holes in your topping so try to use the box as a finishing tool and eliminate the use of the pedal you will double your speed and the quality of your job will be much. tieme wagga plaster works
What is the purpose of leaving the walls low? In ohio they ALWAYS go tight to the ceiling. Is that not a fire code violation? Just asking because i truly dont know.
@@robburkhard9256 I wouldn't use it as expanation joint man,to me it's just adding beauty to corners .but u r right about that it works as cracking point just replace the crown molding if necessary ,instead of scraping the bad crap and finishing all over again.
Trabalho com acabamento a 15 anos em U.S.A não adianta mesmo com máquinas maravilhosas só uma pessoa não adianta. Tem que ter uma nos detalhes rende três vezes mais.
I see you are getting smarter, if you set your 7 in on full you won’t have to wipe each time. Then set 10 in box on 2, 12 in on 3 for fill brush with 220 sand paper touch up hand work and you could make level 5
N sirve d nada mucho tiempo imaginate si primera rápido pero igual t regresas a darle cn la espátula n le veo rapidez opino agarro m plato ho vasiga y pasteo d una vez
Sibte ahorras mucho tiempo con la maquina va otro atras puliendo en 3 o 4 horas haces 300 hojas y regresas al otro dia aterminar haci hacen mucho dinero por hoja
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Maxkill sorry he mixed 2 different materials or no here
Sovin kumar
7544903367 Ham aapse baat karna chahte hain
Shouldn’t need to waste time going over joints with blade .. box should be enough ..obviously your hourly .. not piece work
Где можно приобрести такой аппарат???
@@scottweltman4131 be more sanding if you didn’t
As a professional drywaller I use the 10in fatboy box to run the joints and the 12in to get the butt joints on the first coat. And if you use a 10in box u want to make the joints hollow so when you do skim the next coat with the 12in box in comes out super flat. You applying it and wiping afterwards. Your waiting time and money. That's why we have things called sanders!
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Maxkil just trying to understand why the gap in between celing and walls os drywall?
You're the best drywaller I've seen on here
This guy has not only done this thousands of times but understands the flow of the craft
No he does not , I am a pro taper and he is doing it wrong. For starters, he should not be using that silly 7 inch box.
@@surinamel5708 how do you do it? My hubby was trained 25 years ago the old school way so we only just learning about these type of tools now. Anything to save time means doing a house a lot faster. But we keen to learn the best way. With out sacrificing quality
@@robloxuserislavendarsbesti832 I have used these machines for twenty two years and still use them ,for production they are necessary .The best method is AFTER using the 12 inch box,skim by hand for top quality.
I can only speak for my tapetech. I use a 7 and a 10. I fill flat with my 7, check with a new knife. If any mud on the knife it’s too much. Use my 10 next and check. When it’s dry it’s flat and smooth, what more is there to say/do? Ready for texture or sanding. My little tip is I run about 400 sheets on the blade and then flip it over and it’s another new blade. Blades don’t perform well it seems after 400 sheets.
The boxes are designed to be a finishing tool you shouldn't have to run over your joint with a knife and take the crown out of it so that you end up with pin holes in your topping because you're filling with topping instead of skim coating
Im the only guy i know where i am who wipes behind box (only my twelve box tho) but it absolutely produces a better product, on 8 or 10 i agree, but i go 10 no wipe 12 wipe, and it looks amazing, its just like chasing with the box but i find it faster to wipe and it looks better personally
But this is Australia, they all wipe there
you guys seem way more patient than the tapers in Canada they would freak out if there was anything on the floor
First thing why the six inch box. You only need a 10in and a 12in. And why is he wiping the mud off after he put it on? Your hand it's not near as steady as that box.
After you skim over the joints using the box tool what do you do with the rest of the board and reveals? Do you skim the board where it's not close to a joint or a reveal? In UK they tend to skim the entire wall with a brown/red type of plaster.
you just leave it, in Australia only for a level 5 finish you would skim the entire wall. Its needs a good sealer undercoat rolled onto it to blend as well. I get them perfect after paint, but the painter plays a big part in the finish of the drywall. Yeah in the UK some of the thick plaster on walls looks like a complete mess but its a different climate here in Australia.. Hey Martin you should subscribe!
What's the space in the top corners for is thare mouden going to cover it
Why the gap at the corners ?
Crown molding ?
Yeah mate crown molding. Thanks for watching
@@Maxkil I’ve watched many videos , most videos I see , have that gap for crown. That’s a lot of crown. Do you know why all that crown is used ? Here in Texas, even where’s there’s crown specked, every thing gets taped. And the drywall is always hung tight in the corners.
He shouldn't have to wipe it down with knife afterward should he?....whole point of using a box is to tape it right and in one pass I thought....his box leaves alot excess mud over side
Just gets rid of any air bubbles and flattens it right out. I think it's good to do. I see many people don't think it's needed, but you can see looking down the joint while it's being done how much better it makes it. It also feathers the joint when you change direction. Sometimes you get some debris it you have to run along next to a cut out and can cause it to scratch, wiping after solves all of those woes...
Do you think air bubbles will show on the finish coat if you don't blade off the second coat? Where you from Adelaide? Adjust your box so it is flat! The composition of base coat is heavier than topcoat, thats why you have to wipe the shit runs around the shits to thick! starts to set... Theres no happy medium.. @@Maxkil
Double pass to take care of any kind of bubbles
yeah if you don't wipe them down each coat, the ceilings especially look like a bike track
Yeah many people would disagree with you mate. Not me though. I think you can see and feel the good flatten out. The joint loves it I reckon.
Just saying tapeing boxes have a adjustment spring so you don't have to go back and wipe
Good job man , neat , organized, 1 man crew , awesome work 🤙🤙🤙
Yeah he has a good system. Its where I want to be personally
Too much time waisted in that step, just use a 10 inch box and after drying use a 12 inch box and you are done !
sorry but u dont need to wipe it down after every coat. in cali we use 10 and 12. and 12 and 14 for ceilings.
You could use a 12 on butt joints 3 times if needed if really crowned.
We wipe down too, only we box with 10” then skim with 12” then were done. Wiping down allows you to fill all the way into the corner and knock down lift offs.
How wide is that box? We usually do our fill coat with a 10" box. Does that get it flat enough? I agree with chasing the box work with a broad knife to fill in the gap along the angles . Gets rid of tape photographing and most lap marks too.
Really love your videos !Being an old plasterer and drywall finisher i really enjoy checking out all the great videos you guys do !! Keep up the great work !! You guys must use a lot of crown moulding ?
Same with us. Hubby was trained 25 years ago and still plastering the old school way with trowels, he only just discovering these tools. They still save time and time is money so I told him to go buy them.
Can anyone tell me why he prefilled the cylinder of the pump ..before putting it back together and then pumping mud thru it? Would love to know if this helps with something significant..I would just throw the pump in the bucket and go???
I'm just gettin into the boxes but from what I understand it primes the pump. sometimes it won't pump out if you don't put a small amount in if it is clean
I'm a taper and we use q10 12 and 14 ...but good job clean ..
Are you mixing a fast set compound mix?
Why do you spray them?
what is the name of this tool? and how to buy it?
info please?
What's with the huge gaps on the ceiling corners? Don't you have to prefill all of them?
They do a plaster tupe crown and don't have to fire tape down there
What is the name of that tool if I look for in online shop ?
That is some really good work.
+Marksmisfitworld thanks a lot.
In germany I use fügen füller and uniflot. Drying time 45-50 minutes maximum. That's big problem for this tools? I want to buy that and try
Dammmm that tool is bad ass!!
Why not use a 5gal pail instead of those lil buckets
He is not a pro taper that is why he is working so inefficiently .
Not bad for the first time
Good videos mate i like watching them.👍👍👍
+Stephen thanks, im glad you like watching. I like making them.
What are the gaps in the corners???
Crown molding will be installed
Why do you have a space wall to ceiling? All your job seem to be like that. Merci.
He did what would take me two days. Minus the cursing, the pissed off, the stress, the dirty mess, the going over it twice or 3x lol. Then finally just getting so upset I just go home. In literally like 10 minutes lol
Haha. Me too man. As you will see in my upcoming video this week. But we enjoy it right?
Very good tool... Thank you and good luck
De quê país é este trabalho?
Hello I am a fan of your RUclips program since I work the same here in Spain I am from Honduras and I want to ask for your help I want to know where I can find the tools that you use for the curb and the caulking since here I do not know where the can Find I hope they send me
Hi. Link which tool your talking about
@@Maxkil Those that are used to pull tapes with the farmhouse and the other long ones that I used in that first use one to pull the tape then another long one to crush it and then the other that covers the whole tape
Million dollar video
I wish....thanks for watching my friend
That’s a good box for no coat off set angles wouldn’t use it for flats though. A typical bevel is just over 2” and that box is 5.5” he has super accurate to fill the bevel properly. Not quite enough mud and he wipes it down to leave even less mud 🤷🏻♂️. I don’t get it
I do exactly what you do. You can tell you were hungry and you have a family
Consulta como se llama la maquina
Kde si to vydel po baxe stahovat zo spajchlou,nastav si poriadne baxu
What number do you run the ceilings?
Sir I am interested bat tols kaha se milega ya I am indian
Do you ever skim the walls after your done?
Very rarely is done. Only for a level 5 finish. I've never had to do the whole wall
Maxkil
It’s popular in my region so I do quite a bit of it.
@@chrisj197438 same here. I actually love skimming with my titan 440 to spray with 535 tip and tapetech 32 in wipe down. Smooth and so fast.
Luke Storey
I’ve never used a sprayer I roll it and skim it off. I’ll try spraying if I have the opportunity to get a sprayer.
@@chrisj197438 I skimmed for years just like that before seeing a sheetrock brand video on here showing a guy doing it and I still catch a lot of help from old heads until they see the finish. Gotta take all your screens out of your sprayer and clean really good tho.
How much is this machine?
La bomba esa que utiliza para sacar la pasta del cubo alguien sabe como puedo conseguirla
Excelente herramienta!!!
Cmq ottimo e pratico, spettacolo, ma cmq buono per prime mani, le altri devi andare di gomito e allargarsi sulle tracce... Prime mani pulite e da spettacolo. Good
Where do you get that tools
name spray?
There's really no need to wipe the flat at all, just clean up your stopping points, you're wiping too much compound out of the recess. Leave in there, that way when you put the final skin coat on you are skimming.. not filling. Very clean work however!
Not if hes putting 3 coats.last coat by hand
is that quickset your using in that box
Nah it's like basecoat 60 I think... Can't remember
So like always, it looks easy on video, But what is the learning curve on that this? is it as easy as it looks?
Yeah so it's not that hard once you do a few joints like a few walls you know the ideal pressure to put and if you go over it with a blade afterwards it makes everything good anyway so really it's not too hard at all and definitely can get a better coat on your first and second go then doing by hand learning for a year.
I run tools Dailey. The hardest thing for me to teach a new guy is how to not fight the tools. It really is easy if you let the tools do the work. My guy 3 months in now is running my boxes and learning to walk stilts and run my bazooka. Tech. Is key. Learn that and take it in
I cringe when I hear people say “plastering”. They used plaster in 1865- not 2019.
What do you call it?
It's called plasterboard in Australia .
Sir I need I want to buy in ksa
Why is there a big gap at the ceiling
Cool I'm just going to need some high heels cuz I'm short 😂
Lol funny
Stilts.
I wear durastilt 24-40 heels, myself.
Um sonho trabalhar com essas ferramentas
Don't use wd-40 on the box bad for the rubber.
Hey Michael, yeah your right. I've heard that a few times....tks for watching
Used we’d-40 for over 40 years on all tools, never ever had any issues
Yeah mate some people are totally against it. Works a treat though
@Maxkil what are safer alternatives?
This is Australian job?
Wd40 isn’t a lubricant need silicone spray .
Thanks bro
How much?
The boxes are a finishing tool you're on the right track when you're using a 6 or 7 inch box first to fill the rebate then an 8 inch box and then a 10 or 12 inch box whichever you prefer you end up with a perfect joint but if you practice a little more you're able to go over the joint without following up with the paddle if you have a faster mixer you can buy a jiffler which has blades breaks down the lumps better using the pump you get very very few bags in your mix and you don't need to pavlova it the paddles remove the crown out of the joint and you end up with pin holes in your topping so try to use the box as a finishing tool and eliminate the use of the pedal you will double your speed and the quality of your job will be much.
tieme wagga plaster works
He's pro it will pass top coat straight after it
Actually there is another coat of base after this.
He just does this to top up his joints
Emma Laurie this slow man aint no pro😂
I'm sure that all his joints dont crack like the hispanic crews either.
Where can I buy this tools in france?
Not sure but you can buy from here
Maxkil how much does it cost including shipping fee?
The one in this video. I cannot get.
But I can help with the Tapepro ones
La Farge
What is the cost of these tools want to buy i am from France
Are You joking.. ?
Thats same like...I have a knife, but why not buy a slicer for bread. I have to clean it for a while, but it does not matter. I got it.
The environment must be protected, not manufactured and bought by new nonsense, only to turn the wheels of great capitalism...
good thing they got a good Mudman because the guy hanging the drywall left him some pretty big gaps in the ceiling
Lol. Not a day goes by when someone doesn't say this.
Its not square set
What is the purpose of leaving the walls low? In ohio they ALWAYS go tight to the ceiling. Is that not a fire code violation? Just asking because i truly dont know.
@@robburkhard9256 crown molding goes in the gap,but they call it cornice in Australia, look up installing cornice maxkil.com n u will understand
@@jorgiep09 thank you, i was also told this is done in areas that have alot of settling as well. Works as an expansion joint?
@@robburkhard9256 I wouldn't use it as expanation joint man,to me it's just adding beauty to corners .but u r right about that it works as cracking point just replace the crown molding if necessary ,instead of scraping the bad crap and finishing all over again.
Así te quedas toda la pasta mal hacia
Where do I buy one
Trabalho com acabamento a 15 anos em U.S.A não adianta mesmo com máquinas maravilhosas só uma pessoa não adianta. Tem que ter uma nos detalhes rende três vezes mais.
Why doesnt your angles have tape? 🤔
Because the laborer hasn't filled the "1 1/2 gap of missing drywall yet..?
ถ้าสั่งซื้อราคาเท่าไหรคับ
Y msin kitney ka hi
What’s the deal with the caps in the drywall?
Hey mate. What's the caps? Thanks
Maxkil between the walls and ceiling corners
Maxkil I meant gaps
The gaps?
Yeah the ceiling angles are massive! Who hung it like that and why??
Waoo, nice.
Me interesa la máquina como la puedo conseguir en chile
la puedes comprar por ebay
Amazon
Como puedo conseguir esas herramientas las benden en México
yo acabo de comprarme un kit completo en 1500 dólares pero no se si lo vendan en México
En Ebay las puedes comprar o en Amazon
I see you are getting smarter, if you set your 7 in on full you won’t have to wipe each time. Then set 10 in box on 2, 12 in on 3 for fill brush with 220 sand paper touch up hand work and you could make level 5
How long you taping of you were to start from the beginning would you be able.to write a fill manual
Stop talking you don't know shit white Boy
Amigo como puedo comprar esa maquina soy de colombia y no entiendo el ingles pero si alguien me puede ayudar gracias
K nesesita amigo
O yameme Ami número de teléfono yole le ayudó en loke pueda
7755300646
Las vende en usa. La tienda sellama. All wall
Thats same like...I have a knife, but why not buy a slicer for bread. I have to clean it for a while, but it does not matter. I got it. Iam rich.
Nossa a placacas aí São bem grande e o Forro e baixo bem diferente do Brasil
AMAZING
Anyone have used finish tools
Que spray hechan
Ese spray que aplicaste a la herramienta como se llama y para que le hechan gracias
es para que no se pegué el cemento a la herramienta y para que a su vez salga con mayor facilidad
Why didn't he box the butt joints
Because he not a pro.
the rooms are uncleaned and untidy. When you enter a building, it must be swept away.
Whats the point of using the flat box you do not suppose to wipe it down. What the ??
Where can I find this tools in Abudhabi. Any supplier ?
I can send it to Abu Dhabi
@@Maxkil If you come from Abu Dhabi away You will never need this.
@@omron4406 hey bro, send me some film from abu dhabi, Ive been there before 12 years ago
Tá longe de chegar uma ferramenta dessa no Brasil kkkkkkkk
The box is for the screws not for the joints drywall
Or it's a commercial movie?
En colombia ya los hay me interesa
Great job
+Heryanto Sanusi thanks mate
Maxkil You're welcome
N sirve d nada mucho tiempo imaginate si primera rápido pero igual t regresas a darle cn la espátula n le veo rapidez opino agarro m plato ho vasiga y pasteo d una vez
Sibte ahorras mucho tiempo con la maquina va otro atras puliendo en 3 o 4 horas haces 300 hojas y regresas al otro dia aterminar haci hacen mucho dinero por hoja
Y por favor cuanto cuesta estoy muy interesado
en EUA te cuesta lo menos 1500 dolares y de allí sube el precio depende de la marca y la calidad
En Amazon
david posso menos de 500$
You should plaster the whole plate, not just connectivity.
有賣嗎
Yes. Where are you?
@@Maxkil How much is my money in Taiwan?