The Most Overused Beat In Christian Music! 😣 And Two Cool & Easy Alternatives! 😀
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That tom beat is so prominent because that literally mirrors what is apparently the only pattern acoustic guitar players can strum... It's in EVERY DANG SONG...
Jang janga-jang janga jang jugga…🙄
@@RobBeatdownBrown you understand me 🥲
I once wore a shirt (while leading worship) that simply had
I-V-vi-IV
On it. The powers that be were not happy 😁
Yup. I am trying to change this, one guitar student at a time...
@@RobBeatdownBrown 3 + 3 + 2.....
@@LetsTalkAboutReaper They actually knew what that meant!? Or was the problem that it was a T-Shirt and not a button up shirt? Also, isn't it great when a percussionist busts out the theory?? I tried to explain, in a presentation to church musicians, how triads are constructed from a scale and they all nearly bounced on me. =-/
The way you played those tom grooves with a straight face had me laughing out loud 🤣😂👌🏾
that's not actually his straight face... that was his "I just died on the inside" face
God bless you and God bless anyone reading this! Hope you have an awesome day! Seek him while you can! Jesus is the way and the only way and he is returning soon! Whenever you think you aren't loved... Remember the ultimate sacrifice was for love! ENDING YOUR LIFE IS NEVER THE ANSWER!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 KJV
The wages of sin is death (hell) but Jesus paid our debt on the cross, for our salvation! We must turn to God and away from our sinful ways, Confess Jesus is Lord and believe with our hearts that he was risen from the dead by God, and we must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit and live by His word and Commandments! Trust that God will help with the rest!
Seek God today before it's too late! Today could be your last day on earth!
Have a blessed day!
@@PinwheelHomes so true!! I was cracking up!!
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Me too!! Love Rob, his facial expressions, and his common sense way of teaching.
I almost fell out of my chair laughing and choking 'yep, thats the one.' Thanks for this, been in worship a long time, nice to change things up sometimes
Does someone have a video on how to do that pattern? I need a foundation before i venture out
Bro I’m at work and I literally almost fell out of my chair to😂😂😂😂
God bless you and God bless anyone reading this! Hope you have an awesome day! Seek him while you can! Jesus is the way and the only way and he is returning soon! Whenever you think you aren't loved... Remember the ultimate sacrifice was for love! ENDING YOUR LIFE IS NEVER THE ANSWER!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 KJV
The wages of sin is death (hell) but Jesus paid our debt on the cross, for our salvation! We must turn to God and away from our sinful ways, Confess Jesus is Lord and believe with our hearts that he was risen from the dead by God, and we must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit and live by His word and Commandments! Trust that God will help with the rest!
Seek God today before it's too late! Today could be your last day on earth!
Have a blessed day!
Dios te bendiga y Dios bendiga a Todos los que estan leyendo esto! Deseo que tengan un hermoso dia! Buscad a Dios mientras pueda ser hallado! Jesus es el camino y el unico camino y regresa pronto! Recuerda cuando te sientas que no eres amado... el mayor sacrificio se hizo por amor! EL SUICIDIO NUNCA ES LA RESPUESTA!
Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna.
S. Juan 3:16 RVR1960
La paga del pecado es muerte (infierno) pero Cristo pagó nuestra deuda en la cruz para nuestra salvacion! Debemos volvernos a Dios y apartarnos de nuestros caminos pecaminosos, confesar que Jesús es el Señor y creer con nuestro corazón que fue resucitado de entre los muertos por Dios, y debemos de ser bautizados en el nombre del Padre, del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo y vivir por Su palabra y mandamientos! Confia que Dios ayudara con el resto!
Busca a Dios, antes de que sea muy tarde! Hoy podria ser tu ultimo dia en la tierra!
Que tengas un hermoso dia!
Yeah I don’t play the drums myself but I literally knew exactly what he was going to play 😂
As the Bass player on worship teams for about 30 years ... YES! Could always feel the pain in my brother's heart playing that pattern... 😔😖
I played that same tom groove for at least 3 songs at last nights Easter rehearsal. Lord help us. I felt this.
Funny. I've played in my Church's music ministry exactly twice, and can already confidently say I knew exactly what tom groove was coming.
Hahaha...I wasn't lyin' 😄
@@RobBeatdownBrown hey I need some help can you like call me
Your face during the first example was PRICELESS!!! I spit my water out a bit!!! Contemporary church music is the worst. Over it!! Lol
Your expression during THAT groove had me rolling 😂
Love how you help get us get out of a rut, Robb.
Thanks again, brother in Christ.
You nailed it bro! Most praise and worship bands really took on that U2 vibe to my ears!
It's the Larry Mullen wires-off snare pattern from U2's Where The Streets Have No Name. That's where it came from.
I'm a guitar player. I grew up playing classic rock. Filler lines, blues notes, augmented and diminished chords...even a rhythm player was "busy" on stage. Started playing in church in college and felt like I took a step back musically. Tried adding lines and blues feel but only so much you can do with 1564.
The first one, I call it, "The Israel Groove!" The second one, has a bassline that accompanies it, that is ran into the ground. "Let Praises Rise" by Todd Galbreth and Anaysha Figueroa is the epitome of the second groove.
I call it the Bethel Jungle Beats ...
I mix sound at church and the newer music is so repetitious and the lyrics are so shallow and self serving! You are so right! Your kit sounds amazing too!
Finally someone that is saying what I have been saying, I told my worship leader that I was tired of playing floor tom & crash cymbals on every contemporary song. I'll run sound! Lol
I'm with you Jeff, It all sounds washed out, floor toms on downbeat, cymbals, BORING, especially if you love blues and funk as I do
I hate playing that style too. Sounds like hipster music.
I'm quite sure you've been told this already today, but I think one more time is in order.
Rob, "You Are Awesome". I could listen to you talk all day. Glad we have you in our lifetimes not just for drumming, but also for your personality... equally .
I literally played the first groove at church this morning. I feel personally attacked
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God bless you and God bless anyone reading this! Hope you have an awesome day! Seek him while you can! Jesus is the way and the only way and he is returning soon! Whenever you think you aren't loved... Remember the ultimate sacrifice was for love! ENDING YOUR LIFE IS NEVER THE ANSWER!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 KJV
The wages of sin is death (hell) but Jesus paid our debt on the cross, for our salvation! We must turn to God and away from our sinful ways, Confess Jesus is Lord and believe with our hearts that he was risen from the dead by God, and we must be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit and live by His word and Commandments! Trust that God will help with the rest!
Seek God today before it's too late! Today could be your last day on earth!
Have a blessed day!
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Dios te bendiga y Dios bendiga a Todos los que estan leyendo esto! Deseo que tengan un hermoso dia! Buscad a Dios mientras pueda ser hallado! Jesus es el camino y el unico camino y regresa pronto! Recuerda cuando te sientas que no eres amado... el mayor sacrificio se hizo por amor! EL SUICIDIO NUNCA ES LA RESPUESTA!
Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna.
S. Juan 3:16 RVR1960
La paga del pecado es muerte (infierno) pero Cristo pagó nuestra deuda en la cruz para nuestra salvacion! Debemos volvernos a Dios y apartarnos de nuestros caminos pecaminosos, confesar que Jesús es el Señor y creer con nuestro corazón que fue resucitado de entre los muertos por Dios, y debemos de ser bautizados en el nombre del Padre, del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo y vivir por Su palabra y mandamientos! Confia que Dios ayudara con el resto!
Busca a Dios, antes de que sea muy tarde! Hoy podria ser tu ultimo dia en la tierra!
Que tengas un hermoso dia!
❤️❤️❤️
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Its ok. All American rejects got away with it too with the song "move along"
YES!!! Your facial expression says it all. oh man that made me laugh so hard!!!! God bless you for making my day.
And yes as a drummer that does not play currently I am so beat down with this pattern.
Man! I’m primarily a guitar player (I pick up sticks every once in awhile but I’m no drummer, ya know?), never played worship music, but I watched this whole lesson because your teaching style is totally awesome! Keep up the great work! 😎💯
I knew it before you even played it.. same groove just change the BPM around lol. Been playing worship drums for 12+ years now and I feel like all I do is work on changing stale parts to tasteful stuff that has some dynamic and variation but also fits the song well.
Pretty accurate job description of what we end up doing after being in it for so long.
Pray for better Christian music
Spot on!! hahaha . I was running the easter set and caught myself playing that exact pattern. Great job as always Rob!!
I love this,I'm a Christian and I can't listen to this kind of music, it seems so plain and almost depressing. I'm a drummer and I've never heard anyone identify this, I thought it was just me. thanks.
Or worse. Chris Tomlin sounds like e wants to make out, the way he's crooning to Jesus. [gag]
Not just you my friend, alot of us drummers feel same
I love Jesus/God - but have really never been moved to listen to any praise music outside of a church setting. I play guitar , and love secular guitar oriented music , Hard Rock/Metal as a matter of fact. Major chords and keys tend to get boring and very "VANILLA" sounding. It's the minor keys that evoke feeling , emotion with a major thrown in for the chorus or pre-chorus etc.. a perfect example is Via Dolorosa
SAME
In the same boat. I play at church but I can't listen to CCM outside
The other move I hear is what I call “the Muppet build”. It’s that long drawn out build up to the chorus they do by pounding on the floor Tom. It drives me crazy. Hillsong does it ad nauseam.
Haha, yea. Looks like Hillsong been doin' a LOT of stuff these days 🤭
@@RobBeatdownBrown It would be cool if you could do a video on build alternatives!!
Very true ! That eighth note build simultaneous snare/floor - I refuse to play anymore ! It’s so grade 1
Ian, lad, you nailed it. my teeth grate when I get another new Hillsong chart, bam, bam, bam. Aaaahhhhh
They do ad nauseam, drives me NUTS
Almost every Sunday I stuck playing one of these! I need some funk in my life once in awhile!!!! Great work!!!
I'm with you, I'm glad our band funks songs up so there is a pocket, that bam bam drum like is sooo boring
I have been playing drums in ministry for a really long time and this tom "groove" drives me crazy! Now I hear it more and more with "random" rim clicks interspersed...makes me even more crazy! Why can't these songs just groove??? I don't understand the ethereal spacey type of vibe that they're trying to create on the toms... Anyway thank you for these variations to help give some variety to it! Love your Channel keep it up man!
So true Rob! Thank you for the alternatives especially with Easter this weekend. To avoid impaling myself, I like to use different stickings and flams (split between different drums) on the toms too. Those cymbals though.......so shimmery! Been playing Zildjians for years but every time I hear you play, it might be time to get a set.
Agreed - those cymbals sounded awesome - I’ve switched from Zildjian K customs used for decades over to thin 20” & 21” Heartbeat classic and studio - they are a joy to play and hear - mix really well.
I played 3 worship songs this Sunday, 2 similar slow tempos and the upbeat song, had that same beat with a snare integrated just at double time. Lol
Great video, Rob - just in time for Easter! Saving the world one beat at a time :-)
I'll say it again: you are doing The Lord's work. As hip drummers, it's our spiritual duty to make that beat cool. No complaints, either; "To whom much is given much is required"!
Like you, I've come to enjoy finding new ways to change up that groove and do my own thing. Sometimes, I like adding up-chicks on the hat, as opposed to downbeats. It adds a little funk to things.
I've never played Christian music but I know one thing, those cymbals are heavenly.
Sure are. Paiste all DAY 🏆
@@RobBeatdownBrown which cymbal is that on your far right?
Those are Paiste signatures. I've had mine for over 30 years! they sound amazing!!
@@ilikepizza137 that is a paiste 22” swish. Signature series I believe. That or signature dark energy
@@ilikepizza137 That's a 22" Masters Swish
Glad you broke this down for other drummers out there. I have personally been playing variations of the grooves you are recommending in the end for a few years now. Got so tired of those other ones. I have ADHD and have a hard time playing the same old thing over and over 😂 my brain just forced me into getting creative
I just thought that beat was the combination to let you out of the plastic drummer box. Seriously, though, I always liked the variation of "the beat" used by All Together Separate in their song Paradigm.
Dude this too true, I play Sunday mornings and EVERY Sunday I play 4 on F w/toms. Thanks for this.
I thought about this video today in church when the other drummer was on stage playing this pattern, and I started to chuckle. Love the video, man, happy Easter, He is risen!
Rob, I totally feel you on this one! I stopped playing in Church due to the "lameness" of what is required by drummers these days. Most worship teams should just use a drum machine, but then, all the other musicians would have to actually count and be on-top of their playing and not rely on the drummer to help them pickup where the fell-off the beat or something! Great lesson!
I'm not sure why many churches don't just sing along with the recording. Why hire musicians to mimic the recording?
Then again, at the risk of being a RAY-cyst, our brethren in the AME style churches play full-on drum solos during "worship."
@@Charles.Wright Because musicians bring in donations and people. Sucks, but true. Most Christians are superficial and will move to a church with live music.
@@leswhite3524🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
@@Charles.Wright hire? Wow lol I didn’t know you had to get paid to worship God.
I knew the groove just from the title of the video 😂 Your facial expressions while you were playing it really sent me
Lmbo! Rob your face playing this groove is priceless!! And I played that groove Last Sunday!!
AAAND that's why I stopped volunteering to play drums at church for almost 8 years! Back in the 80's we had a lot more varied rhythmic beats and grooves. Not so much nowadays.
Now a days church music sounds like hipster music.
Oh my gosh, the look on your face! HILARIOUS! Thanks for the laugh this afternoon. You’re awesome! 😂
LOL. Just from reading the title I knew exactly what the grooves where. And of course, I was right 😅. Great video and great ideas. I’ll be incorporating them in my playing.
There have been a handful of times that I’ve shown up to rehearsal (not having heard the songs yet) and and I sit behind the kit and the MD tells me to count it off and I do, not knowing what I’m supposed to play, and I go into that Tom groove and I don’t think that I’ve been wrong yet.
Rob you are like the big brother, father, uncle, I never had, over the few years I’ve watched you. mentor I guess is the word. Keep up the good work my friend!
Great video. I have to play this boring beat this sunday for Easter service. Might switch it up a bit. Thanks!
Do it. Save yourself! 😁
Careful the MD doesn’t yell at you!! Lol!!
@@TheSMPStudios 🤣
@@RobBeatdownBrown Will do 😎
Dude, nice Yamaha kit and big hats. Also, I can’t agree with you more. I, too, have been in worship ministry (drums, bass and guitar) for over 20 years now. PLEASE, can we bring more of this creativity into church worship
Creativity? Try The Holy Spirit, He is faithful.❤
Those side eye looks in the camera said about a million words.😂😂
His face on that beat was perfect! I felt that in my soul….. praise be lol
I didn’t enjoy it either when starting but learned that toms are primarily used since they have a less harsh backbeat that is suitable for house of worship mix. Doesn’t mean we can’t change up the groove. The first one gave me “tejano vibe” which should liven it up
I always referred to that tom groove as the opener to "move along" by The All American Rejects and I would get blank stares from the rest of the worship team.
All genres of music have key components across various verse's, chorus's, bridge's, etc. that are "well used" as go to's for various feel, dynamics, and catalyst for supporting vibe of the tune - Has been that way for literally centuries... \m/
Preach it brother. Last time I served I played that tom groove on 3 of the 4 tunes we played that service.
Thank for video Rob,regards from Bulgaria 🇧🇬
I'm a rookie worship drummer and I'm gonna start working on these grooves... Thanks for the lesson!
That's is, indeed, the one!! 🤣 I'm not THE drummer at church, but I am A drummer church. I always play with different orchestrations and voicings in my head when this beat drops. Great video as always.
It starts with the tom groove and at the first chorus the beat suddenly stops, then the tom groove starts again and then the 8th note build in the bridge, it’s like eveyone just want to following the same recipie.
Bruh. This right here. That opening bit so true.
Rob,that was very cool the beat and accenting it was choose your playing always blows me away,in the pocket and so clean. Thank you for your lessons as always 🙏 😊 so glad to see you at Drumeo with the rest of the gang.
Thanks Rob..My students,and myself love your drum lessons!
You have a quality that simply shines.
I just get the overall feeling that your a loving and caring guy. I also love your videos. Keep it coming brotha
I'm an MD/Keyboard player at a church and I knew what beat you were talking about. It is as bad as the chord progression we have to play over and over. You mentioned it. 1,4,5,6,1 (or some variation) over and over.
I'm not a church drummer at all and still knew the fills from my best mates wedding 😂😂😂
This is a God send! I literally wrote down on a piece of paper today to ask someone about a tom groove that works for everything. I got one, plus two cool alternatives. Great way to end the night :D The last beat sounds like a Calypso beat. It's awesome
I love the Calypso beat.
Fantastic video! Please do more stuff like this. I’ve played in church for over 30 years and try to teach my own students to do whatever they can to “raise the bar” of musicality while still being tasteful and supporting the song, just like what you talk about. Much appreciate what you do.
Your face while playing the tom pattern... looool, I am dead. Nice video. Thank you!
Hahaha yep, so true. One guy has described this as by using the Toms and Bass in those constant sequence to eliminate the harsh tones or notes and they are much warmer for the audience to hear in the church.
Rob!. The look on your face while playing the pattern ..... Priceless!. LOL!
I laughed out when I read that title, and that intro made me ROLL. I know exactly what pattern it is.
The thing with that beat - and it's equivalents - is that one is waiting for the song to really start. Till those toms stop, and the snare starts, and it really starts to roll. I like your variations a lot though. I'm a guitarist by the way so why care about what I think anyway :)
I felt that look you gave the camera IN MY BONES. What a great video.
The look on your face was priceless!! Love watching your videos.
Great stuff, I only 14 months into CCM worship music, so I still milking the overused tom groove and still not bored with it, but I sure will be adding more to the catalogue . Thanks for the examples.
😆 I love this guy. I wish he could come play in my worship team.
Another thing I used to do to avoid getting stuck in the rut of “that” groove, when I was a worship drummer, was play a 16th note groove on the floor toms at a low dynamic level, and use the rack toms, and the cymbals to accent the melody the keys were playing.
Knew it immediately without even having to hear it. Been doing it for about 10 years lol
Love the twist you made man.
Great job man.
I knew the groove before he played it. It amazes me how much contemporary worship music can box itself in when it’s supposed to be such a transcendental experience
This is true. I will say that this particular accent pattern has great forward momentum
and lends itself to so many different applications, so that is why you hear this pattern
a lot in Christian music.
Lol! Last Sunday……. I actually play similar grooves that you’ve described and showed us. Not exactly as you’ve played but close, putting myself into it. Thanks for showing us this. Worship music has changed since I started in 1991. Lol😂
Started playing worship drums some 20ish years ago, and I'm not sure I've ever once played that pattern. Similar things, sure. But not that. Maybe there's a particular subset of songs that this particular accent pattern is from, or maybe it's an artifact of trying to translate parts intended for a 6-piece kit onto a 5-piece, but most songs I played with tom-heavy parts did not at all call for that many 12" tom accents. I can definitely see why people would find it annoying though.
I think he was referring to the style of drums. So many songs copy this type of beat. It's so generic and predictable.
I felt this so hard...lol 🤣Thank you for sharing!
YAS LORT!! Thanks Rob. This needed to be done.
As a 17 year CCM guitarist.. this is so accurate. GREAT video!
Brooooooooo. I say this all the time. I thought I was the only one! My worship pastor sometimes picks 3 songs in a row that start with that floor tom pattern. I also like to play that first alternate pattern that you used
Thanks for all you do! I’m a beginner and would like the PDF music for the overused beat too! Could you add that please?
OMG Rob Brown you SOOOOO feel my pain!!!!! Thank you for this!!!!!!!
OH MY GOSH! YES!!! You didn't even have to start and I knew what you were talking about. lol!
Thanks for sharing this. Very informative, for sure. Cheers, Rob and God Bless! ✌️🙏🥁🎵🎶🎵🎶
Right on! I blame Shane and Shane for trying to dumb down EVERYTHING!!! Thanks for not conforming, but transforming that which needs help!
You’re so right I was went with my parent last weekend and that’s all the drummer played. He did it all over the kit but still.
The side-eye was priceless! I feel that!
Your helping me with my bass playing ty sm ❤
This video made me laugh out loud seriously super funny I need it a good laugh and this was great. Six 700 million times!
Give or take lol
I’ve been playing 50 years. In church for 25. You nailed it sir
If I learned anything over the past year of serving with the worship team at my church, it was getting comfy with tom grooves! 😄🥁
YUP. And worship leaders ain't doing us no favours loving the sound of big toms so much 😒
As always!! Something to learn
And
You’re a true entertainer 🤣 love your ‘side eye‘ BTW
Thanks Beatdown
That side eye needs to be a meme.
thanks for this, most worship teams I've played with put the drummer at the bottom of food chain, and stick them in one of those plastic boxes and some one who's not a drummer controls all the sound coming out of that plastic box
Played a series of church gigs about a month ago and 12 of the 15 songs were tom lead song at around the same BPM. Took everything I had to make sure they didn't all sound the same lol. Really made me miss playing a straight rock beat...
I just started playing drums about a year ago mainly so that I could help out at church. Our team leader is a great drummer but now leads and plays acoustic and we didn’t have another drummer.
As I started to learn I realized that every CCW song has the same basic groove and yeah it gets kinda boring. Great video man!!
1:45 again Rob's valuable additional piece of advice, no extra charge, so thank you sir ! 😁
"Cheers Rob"" I need this "Groove" "The Bo Diddley Groove "Haunts me!, Every time I pick my sticks up""." Good Health, From UK.
Haha. The 'Bo Diddley' 😆 That's pretty accurate, man
Nick, you nailed it, refreshing to hear I'm not the only church drummer whom this beat drives them nuts
I’m sure I have heard that groove hundreds of times but surprisingly I have never played it before!! I usually make my tom grooves up myself and always incorporate unisons to make the toms sound as full as possible
1:34 🤣. Pattern got this man really needing to pray to God for help haha! With that look that says “If I have to play this one more time…”