DIY Gasification and Generator Unit - Part 8 - Fire It Up

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  • @CNCmachiningisfun
    @CNCmachiningisfun 3 года назад +2

    Nice :) .
    My wood gasifier keeps everything powered up, all through the winters, here on my farm.
    Watt's even better is that it saves me a fortune, as I am not connected to the national power grid :) .

  • @Rpgamer50
    @Rpgamer50 3 года назад +1

    This is so far my favorite project you have done

  • @ronbean1628
    @ronbean1628 3 года назад +6

    My brother in law used a simple sliding cover plate over the intake to the blower of his forge to control burn rate.

  • @ktm42080
    @ktm42080 3 года назад +1

    Excellent! Always good to see hard work pay off! Cheers!

  • @vossierebel
    @vossierebel 3 года назад +10

    Now... that was a series of laughs and fun! Great job to you Sir - one question, did you get it hooked up to the genni and get it working?? We'd love to see the videos!! 😁😁

  • @edkoetsier339
    @edkoetsier339 3 года назад

    Wow. That's beautiful Rob. You have captured the essence of Steam Punk.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      cheers mate - I was aiming for that so I am glad it got some of that in there

  • @allanjacques1738
    @allanjacques1738 3 года назад +5

    Wallace and Gromit would be proud and so should you... love your videos

  • @DiyEcoProjects
    @DiyEcoProjects 3 года назад +3

    WEEeee! great stuff, well done mate. Nice and clean.

  • @quantumenergysolutions9128
    @quantumenergysolutions9128 3 года назад +4

    Did you know you can compress and bottle the excess gas? Also bubble it to clean it up a bit. Well done mate!

  • @NorthernKitty
    @NorthernKitty 3 года назад

    Fantastic start!! Been waiting patiently for this video in the series, and wasn't disappointed!! Now the "fine tuning" begins!! My favorite part of any project, when you know it's working and move on to making everything "just right".. maybe the Tesla turbine would have been a good fit for the job, after all, for the blower? ☺️

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      I might wait until it is a bit warmer lol - I got so cold doing that!

  • @austinjohnson4890
    @austinjohnson4890 3 года назад +5

    I always dreamed of making one of these, that's a really nice looking and large one!

  • @davidrathbone6978
    @davidrathbone6978 3 года назад

    Well done welding and making. Colin Fuze this is how its done with no fancy kit and sponsors!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      cheers mate and I like Colin but he certainly has a lot of stuff we don't lol

  • @Thrive-Off-Grid
    @Thrive-Off-Grid 3 года назад +1

    Hey Robert, please read this. This will help you get thing started with out ripping the pull cord out of that thing. Even with electric start it can be difficult to get an engine going on a 100% woodgas. This is especially for your first time. Once you have your adaptor build and installed get it running on gasoline and then connect your hose from the gasifier with your mixer valve wide open. If it wont run then your hose and mixer valve are too small. If you can get it to run on both it will be very rich and the engine be bogged down. But close off the gas supply valve on the tank and let it run out of gas. As the gas begins to run out in the float bowl, the engine will pick in rpms. As it is doing this this is when you start to close off your mixer valve. Do this slowly as you are trying to find a good mixture to keep the engine running. Once you find the right angle take note or mark it. This will help you later when you start on a 100% mixture.

    • @Thrive-Off-Grid
      @Thrive-Off-Grid 3 года назад

      For that engine you need a 1 1/4" hose connection and a 1 inch NPT valve for your mixture. That will give the correct range for that size generator.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      awesome advice - cheers mate

  • @dantronics1682
    @dantronics1682 3 года назад +9

    you need a slower speed fan, I had that problem with my rocket heater

  • @agritech802
    @agritech802 Год назад +1

    Hey Robert, I only came across your gasification project today, it's absolutely brilliant. It's very relevant today with the price and impending shortage of gas this winter. If you still have the gasifier, could you do some follow up videos to use different feedstock, to capture and find what gases/liquids are being produced, and to improve its operation? Thanks a million!

  • @patscopat
    @patscopat 3 года назад

    Outstanding progress, brother.

  • @cameronsheeran7472
    @cameronsheeran7472 3 года назад +2

    When do we get to see this sin gas spewing beast run the generator! Been loving the build! 👍

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss 3 года назад

    Morning Rob from Australia. Great work guys. May need one of those if the temperatures stay at 16 degree here.

  • @huwkelvinmorgan3575
    @huwkelvinmorgan3575 3 года назад

    firing it up a really interesting group of videos this series has been on Gasification i think the only thing that i suggest is to put a variable on the fan speed and use more charcoal to get to that magic 2000C that cracks the tar and makes it a tar free burn . fantastic content brilliant

  • @McGiver30
    @McGiver30 3 года назад +27

    The flames should be more blue to actually make the comment it’s producing too much. Yellow flame is actually a cold flame and a sign that your producing gas but not enough to actually run an engine. Your blower is too fast and is adding too much oxygen but that is just my observation and yes I have built a few gasifiers.

    • @JSabh
      @JSabh 3 года назад +2

      Exactly, the flame would not be visible if it were clean syngas. Also, that blower should be shut down after a minute at most and the unit should run without the blower, correct me if I am wrong but, I understand the blower to be a start up mechanism and not a continuous use. I tried to tell him that temp was the bigger issue with getting the clean gas, guess Rob missed that. 1200 F to break hydrocarbon chains into liquid fuel/oil but only 650 F needed to keep the reaction going with a sustainable flame. Have you built any gasifiers that use a sealed vessel instead of an open cavity? Thanks.

    • @Thrive-Off-Grid
      @Thrive-Off-Grid 3 года назад +2

      @marthale7 He is running on pure charcoal, so I have assume he Not making tar. However, even a charcoal gasifier can make tar. You can not filter tar anyways. It is carried in the gas in gas suspension. If you see tar in your filter that is just where that "grade" of tar condensed out of the gas stream. That does not mean the filter did anything. If you have tar in your filter then you generally will higher grades of tar in your engine. The better the grade the more damaging it can be to the engine.

    • @Thrive-Off-Grid
      @Thrive-Off-Grid 3 года назад +5

      I use very powerful blowers on my systems. They are Amtek vacuum motors, I use a speed control to throttle them down. But you are probably right as this wide open without a static jet system. Live and learn, I tried to tell him to build a charcoal unit. but ohhh no thats way to simple. Such a waste righjt?? Yeah I spend a decade developing very advanced systems and reluctantly and refused to build a charcoal system. I finally built a system just this year and I have now fully dropped all direct systems. Charcoal is by far better tech and we have already developed charcoal production systems that are 50% yield of the raw feed stock. Add in the water drip plus mixing in sawdust, we are now ahead of raw fuels gasification in fuel production efficiency and it is less work. Plus our processors can be used for primary heat and hot water. With that reclaim its extremely more efficient. Yeah we heat our shop with our kiln and it produces more than a days worth of fuel ready to run other than dust screening. :)

    • @Thrive-Off-Grid
      @Thrive-Off-Grid 3 года назад +1

      @marthale7 Yup, Yeah I make charcoal everyday for our systems. The kiln is what heats our shop. I offer a DIY kit for the Kilns and also an entire product line of charcoal systems.

    • @jeffreyanderson9719
      @jeffreyanderson9719 3 года назад

      That is correct.

  • @martinwinfield2935
    @martinwinfield2935 3 года назад +1

    Great to see the gas produced. Have you considered storing the gas in something like a bladder or large lorry tyre inner tube. That way you could run your generator or a gas ring when you cannot stoke the fuel burner. Thanks for the video.

  • @ChristieNel
    @ChristieNel 3 года назад

    Very nicely done. Congratulations.

  • @JavierChiappa
    @JavierChiappa 3 года назад

    Congratulations on the success!!

  • @jasonwitt8619
    @jasonwitt8619 3 года назад

    Oh WOW, that is real nice mate, Well done indeed. Cheers

  • @kennethhall7248
    @kennethhall7248 3 года назад

    Good job you make this stuff look so easy

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      lol - it's not - but it's also not as hard as folks sometimes think

  • @Rob-mk3lq
    @Rob-mk3lq 3 года назад

    Dear Robert.
    Your Videos on the "The Gasifier" are the best about this subject that I have watched because you explain it so well, Piece by Piece! You then assemble and run the complete "Machine!"
    I have watched a lot of Videos in my time on "The Tube" and although they/most are very good they are sometimes a job to "Get Ones's Head Around!"
    On the Positive Side one always gleans some fresh ideas from them!!"
    You say that you welcome and enjoy comments on your videos and "Stuff!"
    So here are a few!
    I have, I believe, a very Important Idea on how to (Inspired by Indian and Other You Tube Videos) Clean Up The Waste Plastic and Tyres from the Environment, possibly from the Oceans to!
    With the help of a Ship, Solar Power/Wind Power etc) Healthily and Cleanly!
    On my part I hope and plan to make a Large Gasifier to Power Up a "Retort" to Distil Suitable Plastic and Tyres to Reclaim Oil, Diesel, Petrol, Carbon Black etc back from the Waste and then ether make good use of the Usable Syn-Gas by Routing it back into the Base of the Gasifier's "Burn Chamber" to help the Gasifier burn or; "Bottle" the Syn-Gas using a much safer "Diaphragm Compressor" which are available from "Machine Mart".
    If you encapsulate the Rad Tubes and then Fill the Surrounding Vessel with Cold Water and "Trickle" it through, you will cool the "Rad" a lot better!
    As a bonus this mod would also produce some warm water to wash in or use as you wish! I do really, really like your Cyclone made from a Used Fire Extinguisher as it saves all that dreaded "Wrestling with the Tin Stuff!"
    Would you consider "Silicon Bronze Welding" (Brazing) your Cooling Radiator etc with the aid of Oxy-Acetylene Kit as it is easier to seal the pipes etc and easier to avoid "Blowing Holes" in the tubing etc! Brazing is quite strong enough especially if "Braced up but the Car M.O.T Testers do not like it on "Structural!" OK on "Non-Structural Exhausts though and it is great against vibration!" One can always "Go Back Over It Again" if one finds a "Blow Hole/Leak!" Brazing is also very enjoyable, the more one does the better one gets! One only has to heat the metal up to "Cherry Red" and "Flux it" to get the "Braze" to "Flow!". It's "Golden" Appearance is so Lovely and it is so like Jewellery! There is also "Silver Soldering," with a "Butane Gas Torch," to be considered and this is Skill can be used on the smaller items that we have to fabricate!
    It really is a shame to ever, ever paint over Brazed or Silver Soldered items!
    How about a reasonably priced "Machine Mart", Chimney Sweeper's, Ash Collecting, Vacuum Cleaner that will "Double up" as a Cyclone, Blower and a Char Collector Combined?!
    An eBay sourced "AC Motor Speed Controller" (Or DC) would also be advantageous and are easily "Gathered" at a reasonable cost and I know that appeals to you so much!
    As it does appeal to myself!
    Or: "The Sliding Cover Plate!"
    The Syn-Gas may well have to be Cooled a Little before it goes through such a "Blower/Sucker" device to protect the Blower/Sucker Motor! I gather from other "You Tube" Videos that if a substantial quantity of "Steel/Wire Wool" is placed in a Gas Tight, Flow Through Container, placed in Series in the Gas Flow Pipe in a suitable place, is a very good Safety "Flame Arrestor!"
    Yes!!! Your Gasifier Device placed in the back of a "Pick-Up Truck" to "Power Her Up" would enable us humans to go many places so much cheaper, enjoyably and very environmentally cleanly!
    I wonder if there is a safe, Non Polluting Substance that could be added to the Syn-Gas at the Gasifier's Open "Tail Pipe" that would colour the Syn-Gas "Blue" anyway, even if the Flame is "Pure"?!"
    I can not say that I like "Invisible Flame" to much!
    There may well be many a "Practical Genius" out there to ask and no doubt I am asking/writing to one or even more, including your good self Robert, right now?!
    I have learned so much from your Great Videos and from You Tube in General! I am forever grateful to the "Founders" and the "Tubers" for this Advantage!
    However! I do have to stop myself from "Bounding Along" sometimes!
    I do consider Safety to be For-Most and I do try to Double Check Everything!
    I believe that one must always try to develop any ideas that one is fortunate enough to think of and then always "Carry on" and "Carry/See It All Out!"
    I also rate highly "Down Draught" Gasifiers!"
    The Gasifiers with Two Chambers (Upper and Lower) that are used as Domestic Hot Water Heaters amongst other things!
    Because of the "Blower" being a "Sucker" and bringing the Syn-Gas along the system and out of the end I suppose your gasifier is a "Hybrid" Down Draught Gasifier?
    If the "Blower" were situated differently, the fuel fed in from the side of the Fuel Chamber. The "Burn" went up through and exited at the Top of the the Sawdust/Fuel Chamber the
    "Smoke/Syn-Gas" would then be "Filtered" by the Sawdust/Wood Pellets/Charcoal etc Fuel (An Advantage) she would then be an "Up-Draught Gasifier" as I try to understand it all!
    Gasifiers burn so cleanly! Do not Open the Door though: look through the Pyrex!
    Having worked at Oldbury-on-Severn, "Non- Carbon" Nuclear Power Station as an I.M.D Craftsman I recognise a "Kindred Spirit" in your Excellent Videos!
    I have worked with such good people and now I am watching such good Videos!
    Back in the Day "The Work" Helped me in my Life such a lot, especially nowadays with my Farm and my "Tubery Rocketry!"
    I do find that I have to do a fair bit of editing after reading through/proof reading! This after my comments have been on "The Tube" for a day or two!
    Got to try to be accurate and correct!
    I also "Dig" and Enjoy, the Such As Successful, Elvis "Marie: His Latest Flame" "Shuffle Dancer's" Video(s)!
    I look forward to watching all your other Videos Robert and Welcome your Comments on my Ideas/Dreams/Possible Fulfilment's, Comments to!
    When my Farm allows me to and "When I Have the Time" I will have a project or two on the go! You all Mark my Words!
    Meanwhile it's Solving Problems, Looking after the Cows, Sheep, Cider, Farm Work, Repairing my Tractors/Cars and Farm Equipment plus keeping Myself and Others Happy, Fed,
    Healthy (Health is Thee Most Important Thing in Life) and Keeping myself So Very, Very Pure!
    It's OK! No Problemo!
    I do appreciate and thank you Robert for all the effort that you have made to "Put it All Out There" for us all to enjoy!
    Generally: What Part of the World do you hail from? Are you a Prof or a Boffin? Are you in Engineering Robert? This is just out of Interest on my part.
    Well Done Those Dancers!
    Well Done That Man!!!
    All the Very Best to All of You!
    From,
    Farmer Rob of Halmore.
    In The Berkeley Vale.
    The West of England.

  • @kennyclement2823
    @kennyclement2823 3 года назад +2

    Needn't worry about amount of prodution,,Genny will only pull as much as it needs

  • @kennedy67951
    @kennedy67951 3 года назад

    Very nice Build Robert. Maybe you need to use it as a Heating Source for your Shop and Home. Take excess off for Generator and the rest under Pressure and fill Tanks for Future use.

  • @Inventive101
    @Inventive101 3 года назад +1

    Good job sir! 👍🏼❤️

  • @awheeles1
    @awheeles1 3 года назад +1

    The top 8” or so pipe for filling with organic fuel....add a spring tight flap lid so gas is contained but can give if a flashback happens etc. or add a larger fuel hopper with a lid that has a spring compression lid to allow for possible flashback gas ignition etc.

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 3 года назад +1

    I think AvE had a video on it, but just FYI, commercial charcoal briquettes have more "Ash Content" than lump charcoal (either diy, or bought) due to processing dust etc.
    Cody's lab has a pile of stuff on making charcoal if need be.
    Also wood pellets are good fuel as well (and can be cheap, along with sawdust) (you can get waste sawdust (from woodshops, or even some lumber mills for near free) and make pellets too if you make/buy a press)

  • @ffaubert1
    @ffaubert1 3 года назад +1

    Excellent work sir. The sirens in the background at the end were kind of ominous but still, excellent work.

  • @infinitelyuniversal2390
    @infinitelyuniversal2390 3 года назад

    Nice job!

  • @ianfisher6561
    @ianfisher6561 3 года назад +1

    Those sirens at the end was the fire brigade coming?
    Thank you for yet another fantastic build series.

  • @frankwilldo2434
    @frankwilldo2434 3 года назад +2

    Two things. 1. A true Boffin laughs in the face of experimental danger. 2. I used to own that style of coat and I haven’t seen it in a long time which makes me very suspicious that someone binned it!

  • @aga5897
    @aga5897 3 года назад

    Fire experiments in the bitterly cold weather - Very smart move !

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      lol - yep - I got super cold doing that - had to have a bath to unfreeze my joints lol

  • @MultiVoiceofreason
    @MultiVoiceofreason 3 года назад +8

    Bl**dy awesome 👌 that is so good, hat of to you sir! Would slowing the fan speed with a varistor work? So its more controlled fast to start to get going and then slow for use?

    • @dantronics1682
      @dantronics1682 3 года назад +4

      its easier and more efficient to use a buck converter to var the fan speed

    • @MultiVoiceofreason
      @MultiVoiceofreason 3 года назад +2

      @@dantronics1682 excellent why I didn't think of that first perfect👌

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      I would think so mate - it's certainly what I am going to try

  • @filmmakershelp
    @filmmakershelp 3 года назад

    You can hook a drill up to the pulley for the starter and use the engine to draw the gas once the production is established.

    • @filmmakershelp
      @filmmakershelp 3 года назад

      love the build by the way Rob. Still following with great interest.

  • @awheeles1
    @awheeles1 3 года назад

    And I have not yet made a Gasifier personally yet I base much of my knowledge from watching the gasifiers made from propane tanks by “MrTeslonian”.... I do like new ideas with new recyclables however with what we have available... I really like the Beer keg addition! Totally making me think! ;)

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 3 года назад

    Very cool indeed Rob 👍.
    I wonder if a gas collection tank before the generator would help with a concentration sensor in the tank controlling the vacuum pressure.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад +1

      nice one mate - I was thinking of a gas collection tank to be honest

    • @stevetobias4890
      @stevetobias4890 3 года назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering would the oxygen be heavier than the gas?

  • @Nuts-Bolts
    @Nuts-Bolts 3 года назад

    Welsh anthracite was the most favoured fuel - whenever it was available (which wasn’t often in the war, as it was prioritised for use on the railways). It has the highest calorific vale per unit volume.

  • @markwilliams5654
    @markwilliams5654 3 года назад +3

    But will it run the twizy ...what happened to the twizy battery????? U were making

  • @WIZ56575
    @WIZ56575 3 года назад

    More please more encore most definitely

  • @jonnyswalk4674
    @jonnyswalk4674 3 года назад

    Really Well done Robert 😊 👍 Great to see it worked “too well” fantastic 👍 I’m sure you’ll “refine” it and get it working more manageably 😊 👍
    Warmest wishes from South Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 - Jonathan 😊 👍

  • @D34THaturplace
    @D34THaturplace 3 года назад

    well done

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 3 года назад +1

    @Robert Murray-Smith
    I bet you are already ahead of me lol, but some sort of "Dilution Valve", or some system to modify the fuel/air ratio will be needed.
    I think some generators for running on petrol AND propane/shale gas (methane) have systems for this, but with petrol only generators it will probably involve tinkering/dissasembling the carburator (that and/or making the external dilution valve for "syngas + air" before the syngas even enters the generator (Maybe even before the fan to allow for post-fan burning/flaring?).

  • @deborahward5097
    @deborahward5097 3 года назад

    i found if you use charcoal you light it from the top, also my unit would not run a motor on pine, had to be hard wood, heating pellets are good, or hardwood cut into 1 inch cubes, great work.

  • @dansw0rkshop
    @dansw0rkshop 2 года назад

    Did you get it to run the generator? I don't see a part 9

  • @jantje2280
    @jantje2280 3 года назад +3

    sure it was not a flame from holding your gas can 90 deg? ;)

  • @1992jamo
    @1992jamo Год назад

    Since the gas needs lots of cooling to remove the large amount of water vapour and tar, I'd love to see if someone can use an old hot water tank from a central heating unit; running the gas through the internal coil. You can probably pick them up for peanuts as people just scrap them. It would cool the gas extremely effectively.

  • @michaelmunroe7232
    @michaelmunroe7232 3 года назад +1

    Would the vacuum of the generator engine be enough to do what's needed? Once it starts running.

  • @richardsandwell2285
    @richardsandwell2285 3 года назад

    Fantastic.

  • @94Dildo
    @94Dildo Год назад

    How would you store that gas/wood gas in general?

  • @frenchcreekvalley
    @frenchcreekvalley Год назад

    Did you ever get good gas or get an engine running from your gasifier?

  • @jamescunliffe9872
    @jamescunliffe9872 3 года назад +2

    Looks like you might have enough to power a tank there, not sure where you get hold of one though???:) wouldn't less voltage tame it?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад +1

      a slower blower or a plate on the pipe - something to reduce air flow through

    • @jamescunliffe9872
      @jamescunliffe9872 3 года назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering something will turn up I'm sure,probably restricting the airflow in is the easiest? I've always liked the dome shaped steamers that fold out in hinged petals to resemble a sci-fi radar dish,not that it's relevant lol but thinking controllable aperture like a jet engine thrust nozzle:)

  • @Dartmud
    @Dartmud 3 года назад

    well done.

  • @stephenstobinski5529
    @stephenstobinski5529 3 года назад

    Very impressive. If it runs the generator, Then the next step to see if it will power an automotive engine.

  • @patwicker1358
    @patwicker1358 3 года назад +1

    Can the gas be pressurized into a storage tank, like an acetylene bottle? Really enjoying this series!

    • @dpartridge2325
      @dpartridge2325 3 года назад +2

      No, syngas isn't really suitable to be pressurised as it is a mixture of diffenent gasses which can react with each other/the bottle

    • @patwicker1358
      @patwicker1358 3 года назад

      @@dpartridge2325 Thank you

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      apparently it can be converted to ethanol

  • @azlandpilotcar4450
    @azlandpilotcar4450 3 года назад

    Great project. I'm thinking that charcoal is mostly producing carbon monoxide, and another biomass might produce more hydrogen and methane. Carburetion is tricky with syngas, anyway. Really like this, and hope that you show us the system running in future.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing mate - I think I am going to down the draught and use wood pellets

    • @azlandpilotcar4450
      @azlandpilotcar4450 3 года назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering I've read that there is also an effect of too much cooling, as well as stratification of the different flammable gasses -- loss of some volitiles to condensed liquid, or "soaking" into the filter material to be burned later. Some heat in the fuel seems to help starting spark ignition engines, as does more methane at the beginning. Perhaps enriching the startup mixture with propane, gasoline, or alcohol.

  • @PACstove
    @PACstove 3 года назад

    YES!!!! YES!!!! GLORIOUS!!!!! YES!!!!!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      lol - cheers mate

    • @PACstove
      @PACstove 3 года назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering Not much on youtube get's me excited now that its all censored and communist, but this thing looks nice man. Glad to see part 8.

  • @htmagic
    @htmagic 3 года назад +1

    RMS, add a speed control on the blower and then you might be able to tune it. You want a blue flame. There is too much oxygen there giving the yellow flame.

  • @ashleysmith3106
    @ashleysmith3106 2 года назад

    Concerning wood gasification - the largest plant I've seen was on the HUMPHREY PUMP at Cobdogla, South Australia. I suspect that Humphrey pumps and Joy pumps are the sort of thing that might interest you; possibly a topic for a future video ?

  • @markgeurts258
    @markgeurts258 3 года назад

    How about compressing the gas in a propane bottle by using a refridgerator pump for example? That you can use later (as a battery)!

  • @destinny29
    @destinny29 3 года назад

    dam thats cool good job m8

  • @glennwebster1675
    @glennwebster1675 3 года назад +1

    Awsome! Are you sure you need the fan going once it's flowing?

    • @deborahward5097
      @deborahward5097 3 года назад

      you need the fan until you connect the motor

    • @glennwebster1675
      @glennwebster1675 3 года назад

      @@deborahward5097 that's not always the case from what I have seen.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      nope - but when I turned it off it seemed to stop forward flow and just smoke at the input pipe so I kept it on

  • @Teknopottu
    @Teknopottu 3 года назад +1

    When will this run something? Been eager to see it fire up, say, a big aggregate.

  • @awheeles1
    @awheeles1 3 года назад

    I really do like the design yet I think you need the fresh air inlet pipe closer to the main flame.... also a spring back lid to cap the top where fuel is inserted. Use a couple or few 1/2”-3/4” diameter air inlet pipes just below the steel pipe where biomass fuel is being burned. So the Oxygen is helping ignite the super hot jet flame ;)

  • @AM-us7cz
    @AM-us7cz 3 года назад

    Thank you Sir thank you.

  • @martynjones973
    @martynjones973 3 года назад

    Great thanks 👍👍

  • @jordanbuckingham9630
    @jordanbuckingham9630 3 года назад +1

    You should turn off the fan when it gets up to temperature. You will probably also need a way of controlling the oxygen levels to get the right mix.

  • @alt-swe5503
    @alt-swe5503 3 года назад

    Would a wider pipe around the current end become a crude burner who venturi-feed air into the gas showing it the full potential?

  • @johnmcfadden9336
    @johnmcfadden9336 3 года назад +1

    Is it possible to make the gas into methanol for safer storage
    Really neat job so far 😀

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop 3 года назад

    One source of bio mass you might consider is the shreddings tree surgeons produce.

  • @markdavies5371
    @markdavies5371 3 года назад

    Just thinking out load...would the principles of a Rocket Mass heater work in conjunction with a gasifier??? They seem to generate their own draft very easily..

  • @waltersaunders7699
    @waltersaunders7699 3 года назад +1

    Try filling up a balloon with the syn gas, so you have more control

  • @jeffreyanderson9719
    @jeffreyanderson9719 3 года назад +1

    No matter how much gas is produced , the flame should be able to sustain itself with out any external help.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      maybe - but have you tried to light a propane torch running too fast? you have to turn it right down to get it started then it will burn - when it runs too fast the air just can't mix and by the time it has mixed it is just too dispersed

    • @jeffreyanderson9719
      @jeffreyanderson9719 3 года назад

      I get your point . Falls into a logical explanation. To test that theory put a ball valve in, to mix the air in before it leaves the pipe . Which you were probably gonna have to do anyway to run a car on it. Like you said . If it doesn't saty lit after the ball valve placed . You need to check for air going into the system through your gaskets , then check the welds . I know you can check air leaking out with soap and water . But that thing creates a vacuum so I don't know if that will work the same way , maybe you can see fluid being sucked into the system 🤔 idk

  • @geoffreylohff3876
    @geoffreylohff3876 3 года назад +1

    My guess is that your blower is running too rapidly. Gasifiers tend to be self regulating (within limits) based on the vacuum (engine needs/demands). You need the blower to get the CO generation established, then switch over to the intake vacuum from the engine for operation (I suspect you know this already... but not obvious from the video).
    Well done... good build!

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад +1

      I do know it mate but thanks for taking the trouble to mention it - I may not have done and the help is certainly appreciated

  • @ME-jc7xi
    @ME-jc7xi 3 года назад

    I would put the filter after the cooler so the moisture gets separated before the filter ,otherwise over time it will clog the filter and wont work as good.

  • @dinskiy
    @dinskiy 3 года назад

    Hi Robert, loving your new gasifier.
    I would like to offer you some help getting it connected to your engine.
    Over the years I have learned so much from you that I would like to return the favor by making a series of videos for you.
    HOW TO CONNECT YOUR MAD FUEL SYSTEM TO AN ENGINE.
    Looks like you have a Honda GX160 or 200 clone. It's my fav engine that I have spent years working on with GEET.
    I have 6 or 7 sets of pre-conversion data for those engines and can totally help you get this thing working.
    I was going to send you a set of messages, but there is so much info that a small video series might be better.
    It's about time you got to fast track a project by sitting down for a few hours and watching some vids, like the rest of us do.
    Dan Easton GEET life

  • @goldmagnet9013
    @goldmagnet9013 3 года назад

    How about making a simple cone on the end of the pipe to slow down the flow and show a self sustaining flame ? At the moment in the video it looks like too much air not much gas. Just tin snip out of thin sheet and put it on the end, then you can show a nice big flame if its gas, wont work if its mostly air.

  • @OriginsOfMo
    @OriginsOfMo 3 года назад

    Can the gas be stored as it's created?

  • @awheeles1
    @awheeles1 3 года назад

    Maybe 2-3 pipes welded into the beer keg low down around the elevation of the front door you have to light the fire...

  • @scantrain5007
    @scantrain5007 3 года назад +1

    My congratulations!
    I did'nt expect this result!
    Do you have any planning to store the gas?
    I mean you can compress it and fill in a high pressure cylinder. Another way would be the old fashion style (don't know the englich name - calls in German Gasometer) which is more simple as compress it.
    However: Great!!!

    • @Palerider1942
      @Palerider1942 3 года назад +1

      we call it a Gasometer too :) and im sure you could combine the two to reduce space, fill a gasometer to about 80% capacity, then engage a pumping mechanism with a check valve to pump it into a high pressure environment so that you are not drawing too much air through too quickly in a continuous cycle

    • @scantrain5007
      @scantrain5007 3 года назад

      @@Palerider1942 Thank you, mate!

    • @Nuts-Bolts
      @Nuts-Bolts 3 года назад +1

      For small quantities of gas, a big nylon or other plastic bag might be better. Put a weigh on top to provide the needed pressure. Nylon is fairly good a elevated temperatures, PTFE too expensive, yet is UV resistant. But it would have to be large due to gas being low density energy. In the war they used collapsible frames of vulcanised canvas on top of vehicle to carry town gas - lasted a few minutes. Remember, stored gas such as this, can cause LARGE explosions if too much oxygen gets mixed with it. Handy though, if the gen/other is only used periodically.

    • @scantrain5007
      @scantrain5007 3 года назад

      @@Nuts-Bolts Dear Nuts Bolts, the big bag is a nice and cheap idea to store a small ammount of gas. - One way for DIY. A simple gasometer as well. To compress ... I would not put my fingers on it: As you wrote: Risk of large explosion.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      I was thinking of slowing down but late maybe looking at conversion to ethanol

  • @roberthopgood1894
    @roberthopgood1894 3 года назад

    A collector tank before connecting it to the motor??

  • @gregorykusiak5424
    @gregorykusiak5424 3 года назад +1

    Run the genny next please, fully loaded. (5kW?)

  • @jplaplante5622
    @jplaplante5622 3 года назад

    add a potentiometer to the fan to change the speed

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      cheers mate

    • @jplaplante5622
      @jplaplante5622 3 года назад

      actually a prior comment has the best solution to put some limitation to the blower intake

  • @deborahward5097
    @deborahward5097 3 года назад

    what i learnt... i would down regulate that blower a bit, variable speed control?,, with charcoal half fill the tube and light it from the top, when lit you will not see the flame in daylight

  • @FarmerBoBonYoutube
    @FarmerBoBonYoutube 3 года назад

    Hi Rob.. the engine is already its iwn vacuum pump.. why not just connect it and let ut suck by itself?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      it's a bit of chicken and egg mate - you are right the engine will do that but once it is running and there is no production without flow through so the pump is needed to get things going once going you can turn the pump off

  • @LukVanhauwaert
    @LukVanhauwaert Год назад

    It seems to me that you are not able to maintain a sustainable flare. I hope this would not be due to too many leaks in you system. If not then the other reason could be your gas exits at a too high velocity. This you can simply cure by just welding a bit of pipe of a larger diameter to your exit pipe. I would recomend that if you exit pipe is one inch, you weld a 15cm long piece of pipe of 10 centimeter diameter. This will greatly expand the amount of gas so it slows down and mix better with oxygen so the mixture will better ignite and the flare stays on. I also saw the partial ignited flare was very yellow. This could be a sign of Tar production in your build.

  • @anthonyrepetto3474
    @anthonyrepetto3474 3 года назад

    If I remember correctly, there are a few ways to catalyze syngas into alcohol... at relatively high yields. Yup! Thanks, google - *"Single-pass transformation of syngas into ethanol with high selectivity"* published at the start of *THIS YEAR* ! So, if you convert the syngas into ethanol at 90%, I'm pretty sure your generator system is simpler, and you'd be turning a pound of yard trimmings into a half pint of gin... yes, 90% selectivity and 40% alcohol content, that checks out.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад +1

      I like that mate - cheers

    • @anthonyrepetto3474
      @anthonyrepetto3474 3 года назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering I'll keep an eye on the chemistry research, until it percolates enough for me to make use of it. :) Another odd idea, regarding your statement in a video the other week, about compression and tension skins of a panel under torsion or transverse force: you mentioned that 'it's hard to make a rigid honeycomb for your filler material' - and the image in my head is if you *mostly-fill* a panel-molding frame with softer, grain-less *foam balls* , then you can pour your epoxy, perhaps in layers, to form a *'honeycomb of epoxy pillars'* . The foam balls should be the diameter just below your final panel thickness, so that the pillars' cores are direct, stiff lines of force. Using smaller balls as the maximal scale will create the zig-zag that caused soft foams. Smaller foam bubbles in-fill the gaps, instead, forming *layers* from tiny to modest, so that the epoxy structure that penetrates them would look like a tree's branches. Because the foam balls are only experiencing the tangential force of the pillars as they attempt to buckle, and those pillars only feel the tangential force of the two planes, then the foam's softness is negated by a mechanical wedge. Also, the epoxy filling those gaps has numerous triangular, flanged cross-sections, which serve to transfer tension and torsion from one area of the volume into others, which is especially important for situations with unequal loading, high absorption of stresses. I suppose I should shop around for Styrofoam peanuts and epoxy...

  • @Kiyarose3999
    @Kiyarose3999 3 года назад

    Perhaps start the generator up first with a bit of fuel, and let the engine create the sucking instead of a fan, then the Gasifier fuel will hopefully burn at the speed of the engine.

  • @bobr9731
    @bobr9731 3 года назад

    Magic

  • @tamaseduard5145
    @tamaseduard5145 3 года назад +1

    🙏🙏🙏❤️🙏🙏🙏

  • @honda4004
    @honda4004 3 года назад

    Yep "and look at the bomb in my right hand ". Oops
    Can't beat let's get it sorted . Excellent may be encase the out flow in a gauze steel wool that will allow it to soak

  • @paulcoover9197
    @paulcoover9197 3 года назад

    Block part of the air....

  • @charlesdickens6706
    @charlesdickens6706 3 года назад

    .......so coke or charcoal would be my preference. But they aren't a carbohydrate or hydrocarbon, it's pure carbon ,thus no water is produced as a by product along with the carbon dioxide during the burn. Combining steam and red hot carbon is what produces the fuel gases hydrogen and carbon monoxide ., You don't have a source of water vapour from what I've seen of the design except for perhaps the damp misty air characteristic of good old verdant England .
    I haven't looked at the FEMA designs but that requirement for water vapour is what I'm focused on .

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      probably just the damp air here is enough mate - but I get what you are saying

  • @awheeles1
    @awheeles1 3 года назад

    Sorry my inches and feet first hand measurement lol... Due to 3D Printing, I am getting better at my Metric to inch vice versa conversions hahaha yet We American English still struggle thinking of how to convert an Inch Measurement to millimeters or centimeters lol. I think like money hehehe, 2.25 centimeters equals “Close” to 1 inch hahaha ;)

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      I am off the age I had to use both growing up so I get the idea of it - but that's 50 years talking - so not really a quick learner am I lol

  • @richpalmisano1740
    @richpalmisano1740 3 года назад

    Couple observations.
    Your air flow is too fast. Yes you are getting gas but it appears that you are pulling through the system too hard. Your flame should be sustainable in your check pipe after being lit.
    Obviously you need a proper connection to the generator with valves to regulate the gas flow and air flow for combustion in the generator. This will require some tinkering with the flow of the gas/air mix.
    Impressive beginnings for sure.

  • @jaxonevax6135
    @jaxonevax6135 3 года назад +1

    All right good now we can get back to generating electricity with wind. putting a rectifier on each coil. I want to see it work.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      on it mate - but it takes awhile to collect the bits - but you are right it is in the wings waiting

  • @DanielSMatthews
    @DanielSMatthews 3 года назад +1

    If you are running it on charcoal then the output is CO2 + CO, there will be no H2, hydrocarbons, or the troublesome tars raw biomass will give you.

    • @JSabh
      @JSabh 3 года назад

      Wrong, The carbon-based matter is composed of five main elements: carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and sulfur. ... Brown coal thus contains slightly more hydrogen than black coal, although the biggest difference between the two is in their carbon and oxygen contents.

    • @DanielSMatthews
      @DanielSMatthews 3 года назад

      @@JSabh He is burning charcoal, 1:00 it has already been subject to *devolatilization.*

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  3 года назад

      cheers mate