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  • @bridgetown1966
    @bridgetown1966 6 месяцев назад +692

    i’ve honestly always wondered this. just because i have this weird, semi-undeserved love for support fire.

    • @williambehan7681
      @williambehan7681 6 месяцев назад +69

      I’m not sure if it’s a boon undeserving of love. It’s definitely pushed me over the edge to a W several times. Solid boon imo

    • @bridgetown1966
      @bridgetown1966 6 месяцев назад +51

      @@williambehan7681 absolutely. thing is, i definitely do my damnedest to get it on any run i'm on, but to haelian's point: you (generally) should prefer hunter's mark to it. (not to even mention PP... take that regardless)
      but it tends to be more a fun factor thing for me than it is practicality. and there's nothing particularly wrong with that; this is a game, after all.

    • @Much_Ado
      @Much_Ado 6 месяцев назад +14

      yeah, i also have a big love for support fire, especially on gauntlets or Chiron bow. What can i say, seeing a bunch of arrows go brrrrrrrr is fun XD

    • @144megabytes
      @144megabytes 6 месяцев назад +4

      It at least helps fill the god gauge

  • @mammalianmolasses4724
    @mammalianmolasses4724 6 месяцев назад +316

    Playing Hades casually at low heat is honestly super easy, and I think that’s why I and many others love support fire. It’s a really fun boon, in a game where good boons aren’t really necessary.

  • @typhonyx_was_taken
    @typhonyx_was_taken 4 месяца назад +88

    “It’s support fire, not primary DPS fire” is the perfect response to the complaining lol

  • @ZacharyWThomas
    @ZacharyWThomas 6 месяцев назад +206

    I feel like what people *actually* want to see here is just a max attack speed build with support fire lol. I think a chain lightning/attack speed/support fire build with the fists or chiron bow would probably be the most ridiculous.

    • @alexm.9012
      @alexm.9012 6 месяцев назад +8

      I’ve done it with both - you’re right it’s super fun. Especially since those fists are so fast and and Chiron

    • @ByrneBaby
      @ByrneBaby 6 месяцев назад +17

      The support fire cooldown makes it less impressive than it sounds. 15 strikes with the fists don't equal 15 arrows, more 5 or 7.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  6 месяцев назад +42

      Well we've had that combination of things probably dozens of times now, Support Fire just doesn't usually make the thumbnail.

    • @boneappletee3395
      @boneappletee3395 4 месяца назад +3

      I did a chain lighting build with the rail that shit was dirty

  • @somedude4087
    @somedude4087 6 месяцев назад +33

    support fire may not be that great
    but I just love the visual of just storm of arrows coming out as you're tickling the enmies

  • @VideoKingist
    @VideoKingist 6 месяцев назад +88

    0:20, unofficial throat clear. 5 yard penalty. 1st Down.

  • @hugomungus7306
    @hugomungus7306 3 месяца назад +19

    I cannot fathom slandering french toast. It's not simply milky bread, it's milk, cinnamon, vanilla, and a godly amount of eggs.
    As a lover of both support fire and milky toast, it is with a heavy heart that I must denounce you.

    • @ElectricAlien577
      @ElectricAlien577 3 месяца назад +3

      French toast is the bread of the gods.

  • @GarionBoggod
    @GarionBoggod 6 месяцев назад +40

    Came for the pommed support fire run, left halfway due to French toast slander.

    • @boneappletee3395
      @boneappletee3395 4 месяца назад

      I’m pretty sure he was saying it’s unhealthy for you, not that it tastes bad

    • @gemmafire8628
      @gemmafire8628 4 месяца назад +9

      @@boneappletee3395he called it soggy milk bread, not a reach to assume he’s not a fan lol

  • @fluffhead6757
    @fluffhead6757 6 месяцев назад +44

    Lost it with the "No papa!" I almost thought he had it 'til I realized EM4 was on 😔

  • @fishiefish6179
    @fishiefish6179 6 месяцев назад +21

    Who gave you a piece of toast soaked in milk and told you it was French toast? Because that’s not French toast. Not yet at least.

  • @life-destiny1196
    @life-destiny1196 6 месяцев назад +22

    I lost a run at the last moment to support fire breaking a Hades pot once, I felt that last DD in my soul

  • @aksdjflskdj
    @aksdjflskdj 6 месяцев назад +47

    Missed opportunity to title the video:
    “Oops, All Pomegranates”

  • @anonymoususer188
    @anonymoususer188 6 месяцев назад +12

    Okay, but if he'd started the Hades fight with his third death defiance, he totally would've won. Also, it's crazy how long he lasted at low health. I'd have been panicking so much that it would've thrown off my ability to dodge.

  • @jennywithaglock3916
    @jennywithaglock3916 4 месяца назад +5

    why we hating on french toast? it's a peasant dish, it utilises stale bread and turns it into a vessel for whatever you want to serve with it.
    it's not a groundbreaking orgasmic flavour experience but it is a very good way to utlise something they would either be turned into breadcrumb or thrown out

  • @PseudonymousValkyrie
    @PseudonymousValkyrie 5 месяцев назад +4

    Hangover boons seem like they'd scale very well with many poms. Entering Elysium, a level 40 heroic Dio attack does 480 dps with 5 stacks of hangover. Dio's aid comes in at a whopping 1810 DPS but you have to charge it.
    Razor shoals is also quite good: 560 dps with a level 40 heroic. You just need the one stack, but it doesn't deal damage when the enemy isn't moving.

  • @Cami-cn7do
    @Cami-cn7do 6 месяцев назад +16

    honestly support fire seems like it tracks worse on lucifer compared to regular rail? or am i just seeing things? bc on eris/zag it seems like it comes out facing more towards the enemy vs lucifer where it almost gets fired out the back of zag?

    • @davidbodor1762
      @davidbodor1762 6 месяцев назад +3

      I think its best on Flurry spear tbh.

  • @justarandomdood
    @justarandomdood 6 месяцев назад +4

    My favorite part is when Support Fire builds up *calls* SUPER quickly because of all the hits
    I'll definitely have to think about taking a high rarity SF over low rarity Hunter's Mark or PP but I like it.
    Not as much here tho, just upping the damage is a lil boring but hey, I'm interested to see if it works by the end, who knows :O
    Also, the beginning clip with the anvil was sooo juicy, I just *have* to find out what happens. This is literally better than clickbait IMO 😂😂😂

  • @manuelito1233
    @manuelito1233 4 месяца назад +4

    Support Fire is my fave boon, it's the boon that helped me clear my very first run of Hades.

    • @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately
      @been_rly_n2_paragliding_lately 3 месяца назад

      Go for Lightning Rod. It saved my ass many times when my build ended up not working out or I died too much. It's pretty easy to get too. And if you have Hyper-Sprint you can just ice skate around the map while everything dies lol. It's super cheesy though so I usually only use it as a last resort.

  • @chrispetersen9159
    @chrispetersen9159 6 месяцев назад +2

    That was the single funniest dad fight I've ever witnessed.

  • @rainingblades13
    @rainingblades13 6 месяцев назад +5

    Honestly I'm just surprised you didn't stick to your promise to time me out for suggesting it lol.

  • @Mekkkah
    @Mekkkah 6 месяцев назад +2

    I love support fire because it made the final fight really intense.

  • @11tw48
    @11tw48 2 месяца назад

    Support Fire shines best as part of a wide selection of good boons. For example if it has a 6% chance to crit, and every time you crit you mark a nearby enemy, guaranteeing a crit, which marks a nearby enemy... that adds up. It isn't as good on its own, but I'd call it a solidly good boon. It shines best when combined with features which allow crits, rapid attacks, and allow you to hit many enemies.

  • @acclant
    @acclant 6 месяцев назад +1

    That hades fight was fuckin crazy lmaooo you gave it your best

  • @korosilverwolf
    @korosilverwolf 6 месяцев назад +2

    support fire is best used on a rapid fire weapon but even then its not really meant to be more than a mid tier boon. it also gets a lot better if you get more of artemis' crit boons bc each can crit once you have them. but its also not like supposed to do more than your main attack its bonus damage on top of the attack more than a weapon on its own. I find it more fun with gauntlets on but i find most things more fun with gauntlets so thats just a preference lol

  • @anabsentprofessor6120
    @anabsentprofessor6120 3 месяца назад

    I mean, by that metric no one likes pancakes or waffles either, really - French toast is good because it’s a great vehicle for syrup. If you’ve ever just drank maple syrup, well, some people might not want to do that for breakfast.
    Imagine someone saying that people who like rice aren’t real because we put sauces and seasonings on it. Rice is a staple, cereal base for a meal to be built on top of, just like bread and - by extension - French toast.

    • @anabsentprofessor6120
      @anabsentprofessor6120 3 месяца назад +1

      Also an omelette without cheese is hellishly bland, I don’t know how people could eat that and I did about a week ago, it sucks. Do you not at least have salt and pepper with it?

  • @geekygamer3954
    @geekygamer3954 4 месяца назад

    "Who enjoys French Toast Anyways"
    And I took that personally.
    French Toast is amazing.

  • @FreelancerWells
    @FreelancerWells 3 месяца назад

    You visited your little shade supporter after boss 3, so I decided to forgive the French toast slander.
    (Though seriously, calling it soggy makes no sense, because the egg/milk mixture solidifies when cooked. If you ate some that tasted soggy, it wasn't cooked properly.)

  • @ZBritt92
    @ZBritt92 3 месяца назад

    Just realized the bull of Minos attacks are mostly the moveset they gave the axe in Hades 2!

  • @sweetandsaltyminx7310
    @sweetandsaltyminx7310 6 месяцев назад +4

    French Toast should NOT be runny I think maybe you've just never had French Toast made correctly lol. I get not liking the taste of eggs or something but runny??? Who's out here making undercooked french toast. Also I eat mine dry 😈

  • @legoman7041
    @legoman7041 2 месяца назад

    Support fire is fucking so good man especially for high attack speed weapons.

  • @reemie.s
    @reemie.s 6 месяцев назад +4

    finally its fucking time for one of my all time favorite boons to get its glory..... that u and chat are constantly shitting on it.

    • @reemie.s
      @reemie.s 6 месяцев назад +1

      NOW WAIT GIVE SUPPORT FIRE A GLORIOUS RUN UNMODDED. COME ON NOW.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  6 месяцев назад

      Been done, somewhere on here.

  • @Gorillaluau
    @Gorillaluau 5 месяцев назад

    Sir, french toast should be more eggy than milky.... but you are right on the money about the syrup

  • @vellichor7676
    @vellichor7676 6 месяцев назад

    I don't even care that you died at the end, you did fantastic lol.

  • @UltravioletArts
    @UltravioletArts 6 месяцев назад

    That was the most harrowing Dead fight there is tbh

  • @freshsmilely
    @freshsmilely 6 месяцев назад

    i would say a decent time to pick up support fire is when you have the damage blocking on. but i think what makes it more unappealing is that you have to put quite a few levels to make it feel like it is doing anything.

  • @averiskonsept
    @averiskonsept 6 месяцев назад +2

    Dude, you obviously don't know what you're doing with French Toast. The "toast" aspect is the key ;) If its milky, you're definitely doing it wrong.

  • @hesho24
    @hesho24 6 месяцев назад +3

    Bro French toast is goated

  • @littlebumgorf
    @littlebumgorf 6 месяцев назад +3

    hi haelian it's me the termite, reporting for tube duty

  • @lankthedank6931
    @lankthedank6931 3 месяца назад +2

    The French toast slander ruined the video ngl

  • @BigTymer204733
    @BigTymer204733 4 месяца назад

    All I learned from this is SF will get through EM3 with 5 hp to spare... Wild run!

  • @pumbaa667
    @pumbaa667 6 месяцев назад

    Ahah, I love those silly bad-build run.
    We laugh well.

  • @sampfrost
    @sampfrost 3 месяца назад

    support fire my beloved

  • @saschamorando4464
    @saschamorando4464 2 месяца назад

    hey how do you get the challenge selector in the chamber of the weapons?

  • @juangoato
    @juangoato 6 месяцев назад

    savory breakfast for a delicious run 🫠

  • @KnotSavage
    @KnotSavage 5 месяцев назад

    French toast is just like if eggs had carbs and sugar in them how is that bad

  • @1THEKING1369
    @1THEKING1369 6 месяцев назад

    I think we need a mod that cause support fire triger every time the cast do damage and then combine it with demeter or ares cast

  • @user-ko1nf3nj1e
    @user-ko1nf3nj1e 4 месяца назад

    Try the support fire on zagreus aspect of the sword, it works really well

  • @nintendoyoshi6778
    @nintendoyoshi6778 6 месяцев назад

    Came for the support fire left because of the breakfast food hate 😂

  • @reboot3332
    @reboot3332 6 месяцев назад

    If you do revisit Curse of the Dead Gods, I will be glad to help you out since I 100% the journal no hitting everything at least 5 times. Also had a no hit enemy run once (got hit by a trap once otherwise it was a flawless run). Its a shame im not finding Ravenswatch as good as Curse IMO.

  • @gavin7683
    @gavin7683 6 месяцев назад

    haelian, you know that you are supposed to COOK the french toast right?

  • @tygonsam2296
    @tygonsam2296 2 месяца назад

    Artemis on zag gun special treble bomb ❤

  • @O_Osawa
    @O_Osawa 3 месяца назад

    Bro says it's mediocre and proceeds to finish Asphodel in 7 minutes without difficult

  • @TallDarknCreepy
    @TallDarknCreepy 6 месяцев назад

    dunno if this is a glitch caused by the mod, but did anyone else notice Theseus called Artemis, the one God whose boon you actually have? Isnt he always supposed to call someone from whom you haven't received a boon?

  • @ByrneBaby
    @ByrneBaby 6 месяцев назад +2

    having the DPS meter on would have finally settled once and for all if Support Fire is actually good...
    Except there is no argument, it's alright at best. If it targeted everything BUT what you were attacking, I'd give it more respect, but like... Artemis is the crit queen, why bother with free, static damage when you can just rock Marked and blow up everything immediately.

  • @BrutalSnuggles
    @BrutalSnuggles 6 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like you need someone other than the person who prepares you food to cook for you 😂

    • @ItsMrBozToYou
      @ItsMrBozToYou 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, that french toast take was so hot he should apply it to the french toast he gets.

  • @sadboitimes9012
    @sadboitimes9012 6 месяцев назад +1

    Support fire is a good support boon, just like the name suggests. It's not good as your main damage lol

  • @twiklexic
    @twiklexic 3 месяца назад

    I’m a super casual player but i feel like buying an anvil fucks my run like 4/10 times so I just fully avoid them now except just for fun

  • @rhesty5235
    @rhesty5235 3 месяца назад

    I use the dps meter and artemis legendary (what supp fire shows up as) always has a healthy chunk of damage. It's a no investment boon that is purely free auto aimed dmg that can also help hit stragglers around the chamber to make clears quicker. It's perfectly mid, I would never call it OP yet I would never call it bad.

  • @davidbodor1762
    @davidbodor1762 6 месяцев назад

    It's SO much better on Flurry spear tbh, it's not even a contest. Spear + Support fire is the best.

  • @brightspear
    @brightspear 6 месяцев назад

    great vid! now pls do razor shoals pommed run next mr daelian

  • @Liott-Cross
    @Liott-Cross 2 месяца назад

    Not the best boon tbh but damn it looks so cool!

  • @gregw_
    @gregw_ 6 месяцев назад

    I always think support fire should have had some innate crit chance on it.

  • @Thermalfusi0n
    @Thermalfusi0n 3 месяца назад

    americans liking french toast is the funniest shit

  • @evitanigaminU
    @evitanigaminU 3 месяца назад

    If your french toast is soggy, that explains why you don't like french toast

  • @somedude4087
    @somedude4087 6 месяцев назад

    1:44 "its already only 1 damage per pom"
    yea
    support fire is a linear scale of +1 per lvl
    there is no change

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  6 месяцев назад

      The first level gives +2 damage.

    • @somedude4087
      @somedude4087 6 месяцев назад

      @@Haelian hm, the wiki says its linear +1, same as pressure points
      altho wiki is quite old, and not official

  • @syxziz
    @syxziz 6 месяцев назад

    i tried this once and it didn’t go too well 😭

  • @undeadandliving6725
    @undeadandliving6725 6 месяцев назад

    why not use eris for the non-specific damage increase on support fire? nvm lol

  • @ajaxmajor
    @ajaxmajor 6 месяцев назад

    if it just show forward instead of backward it might have actually helped

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  6 месяцев назад

      Agreed

  • @ZippedZipFile
    @ZippedZipFile 6 месяцев назад +1

    What mods were used for this?

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  6 месяцев назад

      Codex Menu

  • @RJR4646
    @RJR4646 6 месяцев назад

    Nice 5 health hold...

  • @cee_ves
    @cee_ves 3 месяца назад

    im not used to seeing hades now

  • @Somnusrei
    @Somnusrei 6 месяцев назад

    Aspect of Zagreus would have been a lot better for this.

  • @Biff_1070
    @Biff_1070 4 месяца назад

    Real

  • @nobelphoenix
    @nobelphoenix 6 месяцев назад

    man, support fire really sucks as a reliable source of dps, even gnorps deal more damage

  • @bluevortexpng1211
    @bluevortexpng1211 6 месяцев назад

    if only you got a max health 😔

  • @chanlekho
    @chanlekho 6 месяцев назад

    This video is not suitable to watch in toilet. My butt clenched so hard at the end i could not shit properly.

  • @HaoRLK
    @HaoRLK 3 месяца назад

    Terraria archer gameplay

  • @fovoskia993
    @fovoskia993 6 месяцев назад

    Wow

  • @a_normal_guy7057
    @a_normal_guy7057 3 месяца назад

    👁️👁️ twitch chat

  • @toastedjam1470
    @toastedjam1470 3 месяца назад

    I was about to unsubscribe over the breakfast thing until he said hashbrown good

  • @shagerd_
    @shagerd_ 6 месяцев назад

    hi chat

  • @aSSholeShitty1
    @aSSholeShitty1 6 месяцев назад

    That fight was INTENSE

  • @sampfrost
    @sampfrost 3 месяца назад

    support fire my beloved

  • @sampfrost
    @sampfrost 3 месяца назад

    support fire my beloved