I’ve been playing Marshall 2203 and 2204 amps since 1978. My first Marshall was a fawn 50 watt. Later I got a 100 watt JCM 800. I bought a reissue JCM 800 2203 and I think it sounds as good if not better than the oneI bought in the 80’s.
I own this amp in pristine condition. Never left the house and I’m the original owner. It’s an 83 2203 MK2 lead 100 watt head with a slant 4 x 12 celestial cab
That's the sound. THE sound. There is simlpy no substitute. With a very special, heartfelt LOL to the Katana guys who swear their little digital combos 'MaKe tUbE AmPs ObsOlEtE!'.
Please reissue the Marshall JCM 800 2204 Marshall! And great demo dude! The riff starting at 2:09 sounds like a melodic riff from "Suite Sister Mary" from Queensryche.
@@CarstenMoreno 100 watts! Damn, I don’t want to be in the same room with that thing. I was playing the 50 watt version a few days ago, with ear pro, and my ears are still ringing!
Yes sir! A "proper" Marshall tone! Hey try utilizing a "room" mic as well as a close mic with a 60/40 mix; the higher percentage to the close mic. It really does make it sound more awesome 👌
Boy! Master Volume only on 3? No wonder that it doesn’t sound as it should in the video. The real magic starts around 6, then this is about the greatest amp in the world. You can still use an attenuator if it’s too loud.
Black White Well, depends on how high you set the gain. But yes, with Gain AND Master both higher than 7 the compression can be too muddy. Master between 6 and 7 and Gain a little bit higher is my personal sweet spot.
@@MatthiasStockert Oh, good idea by the way, i never tried the settings like this, i always set gain at 10 and never tried combination where gain is lower and MV higher. Thanks, i will try.
I would love to see a mini Vietnamese 800 so I could actually buy one. I bought an origin 50 this year and I would be all over something in that price range. Yeah I know......
I love that sound, but the guy doing the demo makes it look easy. That amp requires you to really dig into the strings and have your rhythm game really together. When you do: it really rewards you. While you're not there yet: I'd go for an amp that's easier to play to cut my teeth first.
It's a damn fine amp, but, in my opinion, lacks the dynamics of the original. If you're in the market, be sure to check out the PAL 800 pedal. Sounds like a JCM800 and paired with a Fender Princeton '68 gives you the Fender cleans to boot.
I have a question, is it possible for the JCM 800 (new 100w version 2203) to switch between Low and High inputs with an ABY switch? Thanks for the reply.
Hoping someone could help me out here i have a Marshall DSL40CR I love it but I’ve been wanting a JCM 800 would there be a huge difference in sound between the two? Besides the jcm being louder obviously. No stores have an 800 to try in person
I don't understand. I bought a s/h master vol Marshall head in 1979 and I don't ever remember it having 'JCM800' on the front or back panel anywhere....in fact I don't recall the front panel being full width. Have you morphed two models together here or what?
Just had a squint at what I can see from old gig pics from '79/'80 - Definitely not full width panel but rocker switches. When I bought the amp second hand in Denmark Street the guy told me it had belonged to John Myles who had it modded with 4 (as I recall) speaker out jacks. I only ever used it with one Hiwatt 4x12. I hadn't thought about this amp for years (I sold it in 1982ish to fund a holiday in Egypt at the end of that year. I've just been stoking the fires of memory on the SoloDallas vintage Marshall website. It is all most interesting but to be brutally honest I doubt I could pick that amp up today with my back in its current state...Hahahahahahaha. Time passes eh?
Yes. Low is clean. High on dirty . Not much distortion at all at very low volume. It has to be loud to get a good sound. Use a boss SD1 overdrive to get more gain. In dirty channel.
you have over 40 years of experience with the 2203, why does the reissue sound worse than an old 2203? The amp has earned better transformers and components. the steering is no excuse. This amp is a legend and should sound better than ever
@MrOzgooner ?? Wasn't a great success ? Are you sure ? Do you have any sales graphics ? I got a KK 2203 and I can say it's a killer factory modded hot rod JCM ! Feel free to check rig -talk forum to see if it was a success or not.
Actually it was a limited run, and all of them are sold! It surely lacks an effects loops, but as you probably know it was made to Kerry specs, and many users don't rely on fx loop as they prefer to run front pedals. I find the amp to have extra clarity and oomph due to 4 KT88, also the beast section with the noise gate is really awesome, at least for me. I realized I don't need uber hyper gobs of distortion to play for example Deicide, Sepultura, Pantera...for me it's all about clear, tight gain with midrange. The KK2203 delivers ! Of course it could be nice to be able to turn on and off the beast section via a footswitch.
Yes I understand the issue with the clean and gain mode, you have always to go back to the amp and turn the knobs in order to get a clean or a high gain tone. I'm a set it for once and play type of player, but for those who want to have say three sounds on the fly: clean, rythm and lead for sloing, then they have to get something else. But the idea of single channel hot rodded Marshall amp is the selling point for me. Also the cleans are really great, chimey and bell like. My splittable dirty fingers pups are in for something.
The real question is why does a 1200$ amp cost 3350? It sounds ok but only has one sound and for that price I could buy a mesa markv35 which is 100x more versatile and better sounding with 1500 left over.
I have a bunch of high end amps, and recently picked up a 1981 early 80s 800....a "holy grail" amp. Being honest, while it has some great tones, it is striking how little it does being one channel and not real high gain. It's a one trick pony, though that one trick sounds very nice. It's true recent amps do so much more for less money. The 800 sounds "good" for the heavy crunch tone, but does little else. My 3 channel Legacy 3 or 12 channel JVM410 for example run circles around the 800. Your comment is very true that amps of recent years give you so much more versatility, and many more sounds. I will keep my 1981 JCM800 for value and resale, but it's a one trick pony for sure.
so that's it...sparkly clean, and overly saturated 80's fluff? I'm sure this amp is capable of some killer in-between sounds. maybe next time you could try setting it to an edge of break up, or a lovely thick crunch as well as the bog-standard guitar shop tones for those of us who don't worship at the altar of bad sound.
I have watched other videos showing that Marshall switched to a Vietnamese manufactured power transformer in 2023 which can emit a 1 k hum from its metal cap enclosure when powered up. Why would Marshall, in it's flagship model, cut corners on parts quality while maintaining the same very premium price point as the previous models with paired transformers that were manufactured in Britain or Malta? It makes no sense other than Marshall is now putting profits over their quality control, and are willing to release an inferior product without any savings passed on to the consumer. Had I bought this amp at it's current street price and found out Marshall did this, I would be upset to say the least. ruclips.net/video/lFuTws0KQt0/видео.htmlsi=NsHmQNh4-g4LFBN5
The louder I turn mine, the worse it sounds. It sounds all compressed and lifeless, and because of this it sounds terrible when you record at loud volumes.
Precisely how rock guitar should sound. Perfect.
I’ve been playing Marshall 2203 and 2204 amps since 1978. My first Marshall was a fawn 50 watt. Later I got a 100 watt JCM 800. I bought a reissue JCM 800 2203 and I think it sounds as good if not better than the oneI bought in the 80’s.
Thank you for finally making a demo showing the full range of the amp
Please make an 800 mini like the mini jubilee!
They are releasing a 20 watt
@@tanshaomala Hell yeah!
I own this amp in pristine condition. Never left the house and I’m the original owner. It’s an 83 2203 MK2 lead 100 watt head with a slant 4 x 12 celestial cab
I speak for many: your job is the best!
That's the sound. THE sound. There is simlpy no substitute.
With a very special, heartfelt LOL to the Katana guys who swear their little digital combos 'MaKe tUbE AmPs ObsOlEtE!'.
I’m a katana guy who wishes I had this amp, and I can confidently say that this amp makes my katana obsolete
I've had my 50 watt for almost 30 years now. I think I'll keep it.
i own this amp love it best of the best hands down
Please reissue the Marshall JCM 800 2204 Marshall! And great demo dude! The riff starting at 2:09 sounds like a melodic riff from "Suite Sister Mary" from Queensryche.
Oh yeah, it does!
Good catch! Now I gotta listen to queensryche
What’s the difference between the 2204 and the 2203?
@@repetitivemotion 2204 is 50 watts, 2203 is 100 watts.
@@CarstenMoreno 100 watts! Damn, I don’t want to be in the same room with that thing. I was playing the 50 watt version a few days ago, with ear pro, and my ears are still ringing!
Yes sir! A "proper" Marshall tone!
Hey try utilizing a "room" mic as well as a close mic with a 60/40 mix; the higher percentage to the close mic. It really does make it sound more awesome 👌
Boy! Master Volume only on 3? No wonder that it doesn’t sound as it should in the video. The real magic starts around 6, then this is about the greatest amp in the world. You can still use an attenuator if it’s too loud.
In my personal experience with the 2203x just from 4.5 and above on the master is already game :)
MV from 7 to 10 there's a shitty overcompression.
Black White Well, depends on how high you set the gain. But yes, with Gain AND Master both higher than 7 the compression can be too muddy. Master between 6 and 7 and Gain a little bit higher is my personal sweet spot.
@@MatthiasStockert Oh, good idea by the way, i never tried the settings like this, i always set gain at 10 and never tried combination where gain is lower and MV higher. Thanks, i will try.
The old jcm 800 just need master on 3 and theres a blast. 0 to 1 is like none to all volume, its different than this 2203x
The Best Sound, ever!
Please make the Marshall Major Ritchie Blackmore signature, I have the 100W plexi but I need more power!!!
I like that as a practice amp in my small flat.
I would love to see a mini Vietnamese 800 so I could actually buy one. I bought an origin 50 this year and I would be all over something in that price range. Yeah I know......
A cranked DSL100hr can get you like 90% there....
in the US JCM800 reissues are going for 3k new. That is insane
I have jcm 800 Super Lead 50 watt , Best Sound, It Number one for me
The 800 sounds better through vintage thirties in my opinion. Shaves off some of the high mids
I love that sound, but the guy doing the demo makes it look easy.
That amp requires you to really dig into the strings and have your rhythm game really together.
When you do: it really rewards you. While you're not there yet: I'd go for an amp that's easier to play to cut my teeth first.
Nice demo !.....love your Strat humbucker ,............what is it ?.................thanks !
The best.
It's a damn fine amp, but, in my opinion, lacks the dynamics of the original. If you're in the market, be sure to check out the PAL 800 pedal. Sounds like a JCM800 and paired with a Fender Princeton '68 gives you the Fender cleans to boot.
I have a question, is it possible for the JCM 800 (new 100w version 2203) to switch between Low and High inputs with an ABY switch? Thanks for the reply.
They should make a 50 watt version.
It's a 2204
Hoping someone could help me out here i have a Marshall DSL40CR I love it but I’ve been wanting a JCM 800 would there be a huge difference in sound between the two? Besides the jcm being louder obviously. No stores have an 800 to try in person
I don't understand. I bought a s/h master vol Marshall head in 1979 and I don't ever remember it having 'JCM800' on the front or back panel anywhere....in fact I don't recall the front panel being full width. Have you morphed two models together here or what?
jcm 800 full width 2203 started in '81 i believe. sounds like you had a plexi style head 2203. very cool.
"Very cool" sounds.......um....very cool. Hahahahaha. If anyone ever asks I shall tell them that. Thanks :-)
Just had a squint at what I can see from old gig pics from '79/'80 - Definitely not full width panel but rocker switches. When I bought the amp second hand in Denmark Street the guy told me it had belonged to John Myles who had it modded with 4 (as I recall) speaker out jacks. I only ever used it with one Hiwatt 4x12. I hadn't thought about this amp for years (I sold it in 1982ish to fund a holiday in Egypt at the end of that year. I've just been stoking the fires of memory on the SoloDallas vintage Marshall website. It is all most interesting but to be brutally honest I doubt I could pick that amp up today with my back in its current state...Hahahahahahaha. Time passes eh?
Does the high and low sensitivity inputs just act as clean or dirty channels?
Yes. Low is clean. High on dirty . Not much distortion at all at very low volume. It has to be loud to get a good sound. Use a boss SD1 overdrive to get more gain. In dirty channel.
you have over 40 years of experience with the 2203, why does the reissue sound worse than an old 2203? The amp has earned better transformers and components. the steering is no excuse. This amp is a legend and should sound better than ever
I guess it's because cabin they are using and microphone position
Master is on 3...
They don't sound as good as the vintage amps.
Slash much demo again?
What mic are you using on true cab?
Man these things are holding there value, it looks like im paying $2000 for a 2007 JCM-800 2203X reisue.
False alarm..i bought a 2019 Splawn QuickRod 100 instead, monster amp
Actually alot of sound of 80's,they used amps from the 70's.
Is he using any pedals?
Any Pedal in front of?
Do you still do the 2203KK signature head?
That was a limited run ...wasn''t a great success either
@MrOzgooner ?? Wasn't a great success ? Are you sure ? Do you have any sales graphics ? I got a KK 2203 and I can say it's a killer factory modded hot rod JCM ! Feel free to check rig -talk forum to see if it was a success or not.
Actually it was a limited run, and all of them are sold! It surely lacks an effects loops, but as you probably know it was made to Kerry specs, and many users don't rely on fx loop as they prefer to run front pedals.
I find the amp to have extra clarity and oomph due to 4 KT88, also the beast section with the noise gate is really awesome, at least for me. I realized I don't need uber hyper gobs of distortion to play for example Deicide, Sepultura, Pantera...for me it's all about clear, tight gain with midrange. The KK2203 delivers ! Of course it could be nice to be able to turn on and off the beast section via a footswitch.
Yes I understand the issue with the clean and gain mode, you have always to go back to the amp and turn the knobs in order to get a clean or a high gain tone. I'm a set it for once and play type of player, but for those who want to have say three sounds on the fly: clean, rythm and lead for sloing, then they have to get something else. But the idea of single channel hot rodded Marshall amp is the selling point for me. Also the cleans are really great, chimey and bell like. My splittable dirty fingers pups are in for something.
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good!!!!!
Do you even lift brah?
lots of Lynch-isms in that last riff lol
The real question is why does a 1200$ amp cost 3350? It sounds ok but only has one sound and for that price I could buy a mesa markv35 which is 100x more versatile and better sounding with 1500 left over.
I have a bunch of high end amps, and recently picked up a 1981 early 80s 800....a "holy grail" amp. Being honest, while it has some great tones, it is striking how little it does being one channel and not real high gain. It's a one trick pony, though that one trick sounds very nice. It's true recent amps do so much more for less money. The 800 sounds "good" for the heavy crunch tone, but does little else. My 3 channel Legacy 3 or 12 channel JVM410 for example run circles around the 800. Your comment is very true that amps of recent years give you so much more versatility, and many more sounds. I will keep my 1981 JCM800 for value and resale, but it's a one trick pony for sure.
so that's it...sparkly clean, and overly saturated 80's fluff? I'm sure this amp is capable of some killer in-between sounds. maybe next time you could try setting it to an edge of break up, or a lovely thick crunch as well as the bog-standard guitar shop tones for those of us who don't worship at the altar of bad sound.
I have watched other videos showing that Marshall switched to a Vietnamese manufactured power transformer in 2023 which can emit a 1 k hum from its metal cap enclosure when powered up. Why would Marshall, in it's flagship model, cut corners on parts quality while maintaining the same very premium price point as the previous models with paired transformers that were manufactured in Britain or Malta? It makes no sense other than Marshall is now putting profits over their quality control, and are willing to release an inferior product without any savings passed on to the consumer. Had I bought this amp at it's current street price and found out Marshall did this, I would be upset to say the least.
ruclips.net/video/lFuTws0KQt0/видео.htmlsi=NsHmQNh4-g4LFBN5
The louder I turn mine, the worse it sounds. It sounds all compressed and lifeless, and because of this it sounds terrible when you record at loud volumes.
Generic acdc sound all these marshalls