"look at the replay like it's someone else" is so obvious but i've never considered it before, i think that might be helpful for a process that i find is inevitably hard on the ego
i think there's a struggle to swap to this kind of improvement because earlier on in learning fighting games you can get told One Big Concept, implement it, and watch your winrate fucking explode. going from zero anti airs to doing it sometimes, going from bad combos to close-to-optimal, knowing your exact oki off certain knockdowns. then you hit a certain point and it's like, oh no. i have to think about the stuff i can't even help myself from doing? or eventually, i have to learn little interactions about this one move in a specific match up, lab it for a bit, and then hope i remember to implement it in future?? damn, this is so much harder than 'learn a side swap combo for when i DI back while cornered'
This is true. But I've had instances where I've cracked that code before and just done it (I speak mainly of labbing) and doing it is still massively gratifying
It never feels like making a giant leap but after you struggle a long time with those techniques you will find yourself doing them in tight spots and then you notice all the small things you've learned over the time
It's also significantly harder to do replay analysis when you're just bad all around. Like "Oh, I dropped a combo, just don't drop a combo I guess". Once you get all the obvious stuff out of the way, that's when you can start working on decision making more. A thing that Brian_F has mentioned is having your anti-airs as second system thinking, so you're not actually thinking about it, just instinctively reacting, and getting to that point just takes a lot of practice. You can be in a match and think "I should've anti-aired that" and the reason you don't is often just that your mental is stacked. It's why the advice about noticing trends over single mistakes is very important because if you're never anti-airing, even when it's obvious, it's clear that this should be your number one thing to work on. I also think the work required just feels daunting to even think about so a lot of times players will just default to "f*ck it, we ball" because that's the thing that's drilled into the brain. When you're practicing adding a new layer to your gameplan you're absolutely just gonna suck at everything else while you focus on this, so a lot of people just get mentally fatigued from trying to practice whiff punishing while getting hit by the yolo stuff people online throw at you. Doing dummy recordings I find is a great way to bridge the gap and train the exact situational awareness you're attempting to improve at.
Hey Broski, I picked up Chun for the first time yesterday to try and get her to Master. On my way there I got matched with you and got double perfected. Thank you for your service, Sir.
As someone who got deep into the weeds of reviewing his own replays, I've got a couple of things to add as well. First: Don't get so tied up in reviewing your replays that you spend over an hour on a single 30 second replay. Get a few big things from several replays, then work on those, then back to your replays. It's a much more practical way to view your replays than trying to squeeze every single mistake from the replay. Second: It's not just about getting hit, although getting hit is usually the best indicator of you making a mistake. If you're watching your replays and you find yourself taking huge, risky plays and can't figure out *why* you're making that play then write that down too. The trick to getting over a bad habit is replacing it with a good one. For me it was random sweeps, so I looked at where I was throwing out random sweeps and focused on teaching myself to do something else in all the situations I was doing random sweep.
I'm currently hardstuck in diamond in my "i know all my combos but i can't figure out my strategy" phase and i really needed this video. Thanks for the tips!
Been there and done that, friend. As a lab monster, it sucked going into matches and being confronted with "I would toss this dude in the corner and mix the shit out of him...if I had the slightest idea how to play neutral with my character."
I used to play poker online semi-professionally. On a forum i was on, when people wpuld ask for advice, a requirement for posting would be: what the blonds were, where your position was, your chip stack, how many people at the table, how many people in the hamd itself, their position and chip count before there was any of the 'what do i do?' questions so that way people could actually help because there was enough context for folks to understand and be able to help
Every video I watch of yours, I like you more and more. You're quite similar to Brian in that not only are you unbelievably good at the game, you seem to actively try and upskill/help the community. Thank you for everything mate
This is such a good thing for you to say! I remember watching all the guides and asking all the questions literally starting at rookie. Once I started to watch my games back I would pick 1-2 things and make it the focus of the week. (When to punish, one baby combo for punishing, how to anti air with my main.) It helped me to take the focus off of rank and put it on learning the game and being aware of my mistakes. Good stuff man! Keep it up!
The great thing with this. This doesn't just apply to SF6. I can take this information and apply to GBVSR and GG Strive. I definately want to improve and this way of breaking it down will certainly level up my gameplay and gameplan.
The “I won’t even try to defend myself I did ask for advice” is an attempt to be vulnerable but also still wrapped in ego because there is an urge to defend their mistakes. Our ego is the real plateau for players or anyone generally interested in self improvement
This x1000 People really need to completely remove their ego from the equation. Don't play for results, play to improve and the results will come naturally.
You're not wrong, but you also have to remember he's having his gameplay scrutinized in front of hundreds of people, and I don't think you can say his problem is ego necessarily when he's seeking help to begin with. To me the real ego Andy's are the people who scream "cheap" or "broken" at every single mechanic, tactic or character they can't beat INSTEAD of seeking solutions.
I was going to say this, one of the biggest problems players have, is their inability to take criticism they take everything personal and can't improve.
Want to thank you for this because this was the exact method I had to use to get to Masters with AKI hopefully it helps others finish their grind into Masters to bring in new life and tech from players in my region.
Excellent video man! it’s always up to the player to improve, no one piece of advice solves the issue. So this is actually a much better way of approaching the subject 💪🏼
What I found the most valuable of this video is that this doesn't apply only for fighting games it is important for all the facilities of life, which is kinda strange since this is so straightforward when someone points at it for you, but it's always easier to blame things that you don't have control for you loses in existence, since you couldn't have changed the outcome by that perspective so you feel better about yourself. Now I am starting to comprehend Paul Sartre thesis.
This is honestly one of the best explanations of the why and especially importantly the how on replay analysis that's applicable to basically any fighting game ever.
It's also very important to keep in mind that not every time you get hit you made a mistake. You need to keep in mind the RPS situations and "reads" which are inherently probabilistic.
Why? You gotta look at the losses and even wins to understand how to optimise yourself. If you need to get used to it I genuinely recommend creative hobbies, it'll get you in the loop of looking over past work, finding flaws and trying to solve them
Such a cool video The list of all my mistakes in 3 matches that I actually won was super long. Mal distanciado en neutral 4 Caminar sin bloquear Hp mal distanciado 2 Caminar en vez de castigar Reversal 2 No AA 3 Atacar durante un frametrap 2 Misinput luego de atacar saltando. Thick throw mal distanciado. Recibir AA No reaccionar a DR cerca DI defensivo fallido No bloquear bajos Intentar Predecir fireball Confirmar al ser bloqueado Cross up
I know my problems. I treat the match as if "if I'm not doing something useful every second - I'm not contributing to the win" When it's the exact opposite. Every time I say: "Now I chill. I'm winning here, it's their job to go and get me" in the head - I do better. Well, that and not bothering to launch training.
Hey man, I'm curious how often you actually analyze your own replays? I feel like it's something everyone talks about and should do, but I'm curious how often someone who has quite clearly got very good like yourself actually has done it. Obviously you did it yourself in this vid as an example, but how often would you do something like this off screen vs. spending the day playing sets or in the lab?
0:41 lmao oh boy 0:46 yeah i know. I understand it cuz also dropping a whole lot more information might be difficult for him to read/tricky,but also yeah there’s very little to know about what they should work on off “i’m x rank how do i get better”. 1:36 yeah also losses 2:08 oh i’m interested in this,i never thought of that. I always knew people said “you should look at why you got hit yada yada” but i never thought of it with this notepad format lol. I might try this myself sometime 2:44 true
What's up bro I just saw your match at redbull kumate. Just wanna say ggs. When I saw you in the corner and you didn't tech those 4 throws, I said to myself good job because in this video you said that is a bad habit you have.
Why would you even want to defend a wrong action? This is why so many people just don’t learn. Ego, pride and self worth can so intensely be tied to every action that they will defend a blatantly wrong one.
This is nice and useful. But the problem at low level is that most people can't identify what are they doing wrong in first place, even after watching their own replays.
The original stream here actually included a watchalong of the scrubs scene but there was absolutely no way I was going to risk the entire video getting blasted by the copyright cops including it on the youtube upload lol
Excellent video. There is no shortcut to improving...it stings to watch the replays where you lose, but how else will you really know what to do differently next time?
i would also say that as well as looking at times that you took damage in a match and looking to avoid making those mistakes, you should also look at times you could have closed out rounds but didnt and left the opponent with a tiny but of health and needed just one more hit to finish the job. Most times you can make the difference by spending 1-2 bars of your super gauge or dumping your entire drive gauge into the final combo. Im diamond 2 and usually am pretty good with it but there are definitely still times where i mess up by not just going all out and dumping a bunch of resources in one go.
Video has been a bit of a wake up call for me. I’ve been doing alright but making the same mistakes consistently, I’ve been labbing but only combos and If I’m honest, mostly for fun. This analysis is a side of my game I’ve neglected for a while now.
Is there a follow up video? Ive been studying my own replays but I feel I constantly walk away with the wrong lesson and then am left with a bad habit I need to unlearn
For me, almost all my SF issues stem from having a non-existent mental due to being a walking mental illness. This may look like an excuse for ego and being lazy at adapting, but it really does handicap me to an extent.
While the broad "how do I get gud?" question isn't a good one, I do get why people ask it. They think there is some kind of 10 commandments that Master/Legend players do that lower players don't. In reality you will find that Plat/Diamond players already know everything that Master/Legend players do, the only difference is they are disciplined in doing these things are are therefore more consistent. Labbing is the most important part in being competitive at anything despite being the most tedious part. To be competitive at anything you need to enjoy the process more than the result.
Watching your own gaming replays is very similar to watching yourself present on stage, or listening to a recording of yourself speak. You will notice all the little things...the "um's,", "ahhs", and other filler words that detract from the professionalism of your delivery. You will see repetitive behaviours being displayed. All of these things are indicators for you to improve upon.
But isn’t a true FGC champion able to do all of this in the middle of a set High level can study and improve over incrementally time, but how does that prepare for someone who is just able to think of this stuff in the middle of the match No after game analysis can help that , unless I’m misunderstanding
The more you do it out of game, the easier it becomes in game. It’s much easier to practice in a low stress environment (reviewing replays) and if you never practice that skill you’ll never be able to implement it in the middle of a set.
Absolutely not. Pro players are still human, and with a genre as mentally taxing as fighting games can be at the highest level there isn't a person on planet earth with enough spare focus left over to catalogue every little event that happened during the match. Think of it this way: committing any focus at all to self-critiquing during a match is mental energy you're not committing to learning your opponent's patterns and RPSing more effectively. That stuff's finite. Watching your own replays outside of a high pressure situation is always going to be more productive because you'll see mistakes that you're not seeing during the match.
That's why you see grand finals take forever and see loser side linger on character select in tourneys. Post game analysis does happen at the higher level.
You're putting yourself down. YOU think of that stuff in the middle of the match. YOU adapt to your opponent's behaviour -- you just aren't disciplined in doing it in consistent, refined ways. Out of game analysis is the first step to your **ingame** analysis becoming a strength. Teaching yourself to understand the decision making when you have time to slow down and think through each interaction gives you a list of solid responses that you can grab an option from on the fly.
I came for Street Fighter and I left with homework.
"look at the replay like it's someone else" is so obvious but i've never considered it before, i think that might be helpful for a process that i find is inevitably hard on the ego
i think there's a struggle to swap to this kind of improvement because earlier on in learning fighting games you can get told One Big Concept, implement it, and watch your winrate fucking explode. going from zero anti airs to doing it sometimes, going from bad combos to close-to-optimal, knowing your exact oki off certain knockdowns.
then you hit a certain point and it's like, oh no. i have to think about the stuff i can't even help myself from doing? or eventually, i have to learn little interactions about this one move in a specific match up, lab it for a bit, and then hope i remember to implement it in future?? damn, this is so much harder than 'learn a side swap combo for when i DI back while cornered'
This is true. But I've had instances where I've cracked that code before and just done it (I speak mainly of labbing) and doing it is still massively gratifying
This
It never feels like making a giant leap but after you struggle a long time with those techniques you will find yourself doing them in tight spots and then you notice all the small things you've learned over the time
It's also significantly harder to do replay analysis when you're just bad all around. Like "Oh, I dropped a combo, just don't drop a combo I guess". Once you get all the obvious stuff out of the way, that's when you can start working on decision making more. A thing that Brian_F has mentioned is having your anti-airs as second system thinking, so you're not actually thinking about it, just instinctively reacting, and getting to that point just takes a lot of practice. You can be in a match and think "I should've anti-aired that" and the reason you don't is often just that your mental is stacked. It's why the advice about noticing trends over single mistakes is very important because if you're never anti-airing, even when it's obvious, it's clear that this should be your number one thing to work on.
I also think the work required just feels daunting to even think about so a lot of times players will just default to "f*ck it, we ball" because that's the thing that's drilled into the brain. When you're practicing adding a new layer to your gameplan you're absolutely just gonna suck at everything else while you focus on this, so a lot of people just get mentally fatigued from trying to practice whiff punishing while getting hit by the yolo stuff people online throw at you. Doing dummy recordings I find is a great way to bridge the gap and train the exact situational awareness you're attempting to improve at.
This is my current stage, im debating whether to go hard and get my deejay from D4 to master or just chill and play
This is exactly how I was taught to get better at chess.
😂😂😂
I got better at chess from losing to grandmaster players not watching some replay videos.
@@HCIbnliterally no one asked
Hey Broski, I picked up Chun for the first time yesterday to try and get her to Master. On my way there I got matched with you and got double perfected. Thank you for your service, Sir.
As someone who got deep into the weeds of reviewing his own replays, I've got a couple of things to add as well.
First: Don't get so tied up in reviewing your replays that you spend over an hour on a single 30 second replay. Get a few big things from several replays, then work on those, then back to your replays. It's a much more practical way to view your replays than trying to squeeze every single mistake from the replay.
Second: It's not just about getting hit, although getting hit is usually the best indicator of you making a mistake. If you're watching your replays and you find yourself taking huge, risky plays and can't figure out *why* you're making that play then write that down too. The trick to getting over a bad habit is replacing it with a good one. For me it was random sweeps, so I looked at where I was throwing out random sweeps and focused on teaching myself to do something else in all the situations I was doing random sweep.
I'm currently hardstuck in diamond in my "i know all my combos but i can't figure out my strategy" phase and i really needed this video. Thanks for the tips!
Been there and done that, friend. As a lab monster, it sucked going into matches and being confronted with "I would toss this dude in the corner and mix the shit out of him...if I had the slightest idea how to play neutral with my character."
Def saving this to my mentality playlist just so I remember there's always things to get better on.
"watch your own replays as if you are watching a stranger"
That was brilliant. I never thought about it like that.
I used to play poker online semi-professionally. On a forum i was on, when people wpuld ask for advice, a requirement for posting would be: what the blonds were, where your position was, your chip stack, how many people at the table, how many people in the hamd itself, their position and chip count before there was any of the 'what do i do?' questions so that way people could actually help because there was enough context for folks to understand and be able to help
Every video I watch of yours, I like you more and more.
You're quite similar to Brian in that not only are you unbelievably good at the game, you seem to actively try and upskill/help the community.
Thank you for everything mate
Title + Description is very cultured. Well Done Tenacious B
Broski is just such a bro
Does he ski tho?
This is such a good thing for you to say! I remember watching all the guides and asking all the questions literally starting at rookie.
Once I started to watch my games back I would pick 1-2 things and make it the focus of the week. (When to punish, one baby combo for punishing, how to anti air with my main.) It helped me to take the focus off of rank and put it on learning the game and being aware of my mistakes.
Good stuff man! Keep it up!
The great thing with this. This doesn't just apply to SF6. I can take this information and apply to GBVSR and GG Strive. I definately want to improve and this way of breaking it down will certainly level up my gameplay and gameplan.
Great video. A lot of people suggest watching own replays to get better, but you're actually guiding us on how to watch. Brilliant. 👍
The “I won’t even try to defend myself I did ask for advice” is an attempt to be vulnerable but also still wrapped in ego because there is an urge to defend their mistakes. Our ego is the real plateau for players or anyone generally interested in self improvement
This x1000
People really need to completely remove their ego from the equation. Don't play for results, play to improve and the results will come naturally.
You're not wrong, but you also have to remember he's having his gameplay scrutinized in front of hundreds of people, and I don't think you can say his problem is ego necessarily when he's seeking help to begin with.
To me the real ego Andy's are the people who scream "cheap" or "broken" at every single mechanic, tactic or character they can't beat INSTEAD of seeking solutions.
@@sahkovalo unless you wanna win a tournament
I was going to say this, one of the biggest problems players have, is their inability to take criticism they take everything personal and can't improve.
You are reading too much into it, he just said what he said.-
Want to thank you for this because this was the exact method I had to use to get to Masters with AKI hopefully it helps others finish their grind into Masters to bring in new life and tech from players in my region.
Short and sweet, thanks Broski 🙏
Excellent video man! it’s always up to the player to improve, no one piece of advice solves the issue. So this is actually a much better way of approaching the subject 💪🏼
What I found the most valuable of this video is that this doesn't apply only for fighting games it is important for all the facilities of life, which is kinda strange since this is so straightforward when someone points at it for you, but it's always easier to blame things that you don't have control for you loses in existence, since you couldn't have changed the outcome by that perspective so you feel better about yourself. Now I am starting to comprehend Paul Sartre thesis.
God your videos are helpful man, this is gold. Easily my favorite SF6 creator, you're always on point.
This is honestly one of the best explanations of the why and especially importantly the how on replay analysis that's applicable to basically any fighting game ever.
It's also very important to keep in mind that not every time you get hit you made a mistake. You need to keep in mind the RPS situations and "reads" which are inherently probabilistic.
I think even MenaRD goes back to his notes during competition. That's why you see him look at his phone in between matches.
Nah i will just keep on cooking. Its everyone else who are wrong
good one! gonna try that out although I hate watching my own replays :D
Why? You gotta look at the losses and even wins to understand how to optimise yourself. If you need to get used to it I genuinely recommend creative hobbies, it'll get you in the loop of looking over past work, finding flaws and trying to solve them
Wanna get better or not
This is called a smart answer to a stupid question
Such a cool video
The list of all my mistakes in 3 matches that I actually won was super long.
Mal distanciado en neutral 4
Caminar sin bloquear
Hp mal distanciado 2
Caminar en vez de castigar
Reversal 2
No AA 3
Atacar durante un frametrap 2
Misinput luego de atacar saltando.
Thick throw mal distanciado.
Recibir AA
No reaccionar a DR cerca
DI defensivo fallido
No bloquear bajos
Intentar Predecir fireball
Confirmar al ser bloqueado
Cross up
I know my problems. I treat the match as if "if I'm not doing something useful every second - I'm not contributing to the win" When it's the exact opposite. Every time I say: "Now I chill. I'm winning here, it's their job to go and get me" in the head - I do better.
Well, that and not bothering to launch training.
that was very useful! thanks! I will try that
best teaching method is how to teach yourself is such good content and so inspirational
Awesome title i’ll watch
Hey man, I'm curious how often you actually analyze your own replays? I feel like it's something everyone talks about and should do, but I'm curious how often someone who has quite clearly got very good like yourself actually has done it. Obviously you did it yourself in this vid as an example, but how often would you do something like this off screen vs. spending the day playing sets or in the lab?
The Pokemon and Moon ost at the beginning hit different❤
The little jam for your intro and outro is just fireeeee!!! Is it custom? or did you cut it from a track?
0:23 okay. Okay this cool
0:41 lmao oh boy
0:46 yeah i know. I understand it cuz also dropping a whole lot more information might be difficult for him to read/tricky,but also yeah there’s very little to know about what they should work on off “i’m x rank how do i get better”.
1:36 yeah also losses
2:08 oh i’m interested in this,i never thought of that. I always knew people said “you should look at why you got hit yada yada” but i never thought of it with this notepad format lol. I might try this myself sometime
2:44 true
What's up bro I just saw your match at redbull kumate. Just wanna say ggs. When I saw you in the corner and you didn't tech those 4 throws, I said to myself good job because in this video you said that is a bad habit you have.
Sad part is most players will ignore this and still complain about tiers instead of trying to improve themselves.
Teaching how to learn is so valuable
Lol ive done exactly this and it helps SOOO much, past even 1550 MR you really do need to learn how to help yourself and notes help alot.
We getting out of rookie with this one 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Why would you even want to defend a wrong action? This is why so many people just don’t learn. Ego, pride and self worth can so intensely be tied to every action that they will defend a blatantly wrong one.
This is nice and useful. But the problem at low level is that most people can't identify what are they doing wrong in first place, even after watching their own replays.
Damn i guess this is better than just getting mad huh
Don't think you can sneak that scrubs reference in there.
The original stream here actually included a watchalong of the scrubs scene but there was absolutely no way I was going to risk the entire video getting blasted by the copyright cops including it on the youtube upload lol
I opened up notepad and watched a dozen of my losses but found that i made no mistakes now what do i do
Thanks Broski
A.K.I. is cool
Oh perfect, I was looking for a way to not get better
Im plateaud in 1700mr. But I think this is what I need to do, rather than doing subconscious notes
Excellent video. There is no shortcut to improving...it stings to watch the replays where you lose, but how else will you really know what to do differently next time?
i would also say that as well as looking at times that you took damage in a match and looking to avoid making those mistakes, you should also look at times you could have closed out rounds but didnt and left the opponent with a tiny but of health and needed just one more hit to finish the job.
Most times you can make the difference by spending 1-2 bars of your super gauge or dumping your entire drive gauge into the final combo. Im diamond 2 and usually am pretty good with it but there are definitely still times where i mess up by not just going all out and dumping a bunch of resources in one go.
Subscribed.-
I always critique myself and try to change bad habits but its hard to do things i should do instead of what i want to do😂
Video has been a bit of a wake up call for me. I’ve been doing alright but making the same mistakes consistently, I’ve been labbing but only combos and If I’m honest, mostly for fun. This analysis is a side of my game I’ve neglected for a while now.
"If you give someone a fish you feed them for a day. If you teach someone how to fish you feed them for a lifetime."
Is there a follow up video? Ive been studying my own replays but I feel I constantly walk away with the wrong lesson and then am left with a bad habit I need to unlearn
Anyone got the background song for this video?
Maybe I should stop playing Jamie...
Accurate thumbnail, just play luke lol
For me, almost all my SF issues stem from having a non-existent mental due to being a walking mental illness.
This may look like an excuse for ego and being lazy at adapting, but it really does handicap me to an extent.
Such a misleading title. Thank you.
Wait, when is delay tech NOT lopsided in risk reward?
While the broad "how do I get gud?" question isn't a good one, I do get why people ask it. They think there is some kind of 10 commandments that Master/Legend players do that lower players don't. In reality you will find that Plat/Diamond players already know everything that Master/Legend players do, the only difference is they are disciplined in doing these things are are therefore more consistent.
Labbing is the most important part in being competitive at anything despite being the most tedious part. To be competitive at anything you need to enjoy the process more than the result.
Watching your own gaming replays is very similar to watching yourself present on stage, or listening to a recording of yourself speak. You will notice all the little things...the "um's,", "ahhs", and other filler words that detract from the professionalism of your delivery. You will see repetitive behaviours being displayed. All of these things are indicators for you to improve upon.
A player wants advice but can't take criticism 😂. No wonder......
But isn’t a true FGC champion able to do all of this in the middle of a set
High level can study and improve over incrementally time, but how does that prepare for someone who is just able to think of this stuff in the middle of the match
No after game analysis can help that , unless I’m misunderstanding
The more you do it out of game, the easier it becomes in game. It’s much easier to practice in a low stress environment (reviewing replays) and if you never practice that skill you’ll never be able to implement it in the middle of a set.
Absolutely not. Pro players are still human, and with a genre as mentally taxing as fighting games can be at the highest level there isn't a person on planet earth with enough spare focus left over to catalogue every little event that happened during the match.
Think of it this way: committing any focus at all to self-critiquing during a match is mental energy you're not committing to learning your opponent's patterns and RPSing more effectively. That stuff's finite. Watching your own replays outside of a high pressure situation is always going to be more productive because you'll see mistakes that you're not seeing during the match.
That's why you see grand finals take forever and see loser side linger on character select in tourneys. Post game analysis does happen at the higher level.
You're putting yourself down. YOU think of that stuff in the middle of the match. YOU adapt to your opponent's behaviour -- you just aren't disciplined in doing it in consistent, refined ways. Out of game analysis is the first step to your **ingame** analysis becoming a strength. Teaching yourself to understand the decision making when you have time to slow down and think through each interaction gives you a list of solid responses that you can grab an option from on the fly.
Could you critique my game play I’m trying to get better and been here listening and picking up techniques. Old-timer-71