Evolution EVOSAW355 - First Time User
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Okay, now the fire hazard in the work shop is over. With this chop saw I save my lungs, time and possibly money when using non abrasive cutting blade instead of a regular abrasive cutting disc. The cut is more accurate and the cut surface needs almost no deburring. This video shows the first impressions on the saw - I have no long-term experience with it yet. I will do another video when I have had more hours of work on it. Thanks for watching!
This saw was provided for me by Evolution Power Tools.
Soundtrack:
Pomade - Silent Partner (RUclips Audio Library)
![eVOLUTION [ BLADE FOR CUTTING 255mm ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/OKMnTB9cmkM/mqdefault.jpg)
I use one of these chopsaws everyday at work. If you go through the steel at a sensible speed the blades last a lot longer than the claimed 20 times longer than an abrasive blade. I had one of these blades in for 7 months and used it everyday until I had 2 days off work and some idiot was cutting steel too fast with too much pressure on the blade so I had to change it when I got back to work. The trick is to let the saw do the work and cut at it’s own speed with gentle pressure on the blade and the blades will almost last forever. These saws are Awesome !
Saw this video last week, ordered the saw that evening, it arrived a few days later, I have been using it and love it.
Better than any metal saws I have had before.
Thanks for this video, I would not have bought this saw without this and the comments here.
Update....After 1 month it fails. Pop and a smell of burning from the motor. Completely dead.
I had performed maybe 20 cuts, all relatively light.
Evolution contacted and after a fashion they have collected the item under warranty. So no saw at the moment, right in the middle of my project. Oh well!
@@tinkertime7165 Thanks for updating us. I was also wondering how long that blade would last running at that surface footage.
@@kahillsmith I just replaced the blade with a metal cutting blade that evolution sell. About 40% more expensive than the blade that comes with the saw but already I see the difference. Much better cut.
My Evolution Saw is over 10 years old.
Still good as new !
Nice post to the group in the welding and aluminium this my is Francis f Sesay I like
How many blades did you use in 10 years ?
@@agguilarmetalwork4494
Around 2 a year
two scammers above me just sayin :)
I have used a 14" Evolution chop saw for years and love it, when I figured out the reason why it cuts steel so well (slow speed) I took a table saw and slowed the blade to 1700 rpm and with a cheap 71/4" 40 tooth carbide ($10:00) wood blade. I can cut steel almost as fast as wood with all the accuracy that's built in the table saw. Nobody has this on RUclips. This will be the next best tool you will use
Realy? I want to try that...
Make a video already+
I have bought also Evosaw355, thank you for example. Is very fast making clean cuts. I am trucker and reairing and building everythint to truck and also old excawator so dont need it so much like you, but helps really much me too.
Congratulations on your new tool. I remember the first day i got my new chop saw. It was like the first day with a new wife--except I didn't have to train it or pretend I was listening to it. All things should be as easy as getting a new chop saw.
Dennis I don't see water combined working
I bought this saw many years ago, on sale at Sears for about $200, It still works perfect after many years of use. One of the best investments in tools in my life.
I would like to have a band saw too, but due to the small corner in the barn I can separate and insulate right now this saw is the best choice. I'm not dissing the band saw. This circular saw just fits my needs personally really well.
The people who worry about sparks should be more concerned with the nasty dust that abrasive saws/grinders make.
hacking metal dust out of your lungs and blowing rusty black boogers out of your nose is way more dangerous than some sparks hitting the ground.
Yr right there, abrasive saws no where as good as this.
I grind steel rod stock everyday, so I wear mask andI use magnet near the cut area. You won't believe what the magnet gets with all the metal dust. Coudnt imagine those particle goes in your lungs..
I have that same saw. It is absolutely excellent. Mine had the switch in the handle go bad. Their customer service was outstanding. You’ll be very happy with that saw. Don’t cheap out on the blades. Get the evo blades.
Also, do be careful cutting small pieces. I cut a piece of 5/8” square bar and the little chunk got caught up into the guard, between it and the blade. It was wedged in there and cracked the guard. Took it apart, got the piece out. Everything still working great.
I'm planning on building an electrical cooling system on it, I wonder will it work like that and will it stretch the blade life... I will definitely see some pieces flying through the usage of this saw, I just hope I'll survive. :D
Lol, you’ll survive. I’m not sure what causes it but most of the time when my blades are worn out, it’s due to broken or chipped teeth. Glad you got a new tool! That’s a great saw for sure.
Congratulations with your new equipment. Thank you for sharing your story
I really needed this. I hope I can set it up properly and start to use it on the sawmill project.
Make a cutting bench on one wall in your workshop area mounted to the OSB wall. A great project to showcase the new saw.
Parabéns querreiro por fazer uma postagem de uma ferramenta tal utilizado por muitos no país de primeiro mundo! Um sonho de consumo para muitos profissionais que utiliza uma ferramenta desse modelo! Temos no Brasil inúmeras marcas de policortes mais em relação aos discos de cortes para ferragem em Gerais só temos ainda os convencionais! Estamos precisando desse tipo de disco em aço com videa aqui no Brasil. Quem sabe no próximo século.
Por enquanto por aqui só flexa de madeira mesmo....kkkk... Estamos lascados... 🤦🏻♂️
That’s putting your tools to the test! You might need a new blade now 😂
🤣🤣
Cuando yo compré mi Makita LC 1230 (con mucho esfuerzo) como tú, también me puse a cortar a lo loco, y no salía de mi asombro. Hoy, tengo que reemplazar el disco y la verdad que se hace muy pesado. Aprovéchala y respeta lo que diga la hoja, no cortes metal para el cual la hoja no fue construida. Felicidades!!
¿Hace ruido al cortar? me refiere a un sonido muy agudo y penetrante tengo uno de la marca neo y es terrible tengo que usar protectores auditivos sinó me quedaría sordo.
Que tal tu makita, cuanto tiempo te duró la disco?, realiza cortes de 45 grados precisos?, crees que es mejor la evolution 380 que la makita?, ando indeciso entre esas dos marcas. he escuchado que la evolution no tiene un buen agarre del material al cortar. veo que la makita tiene un sistema de sujeción y un sistema para regular el angulo de corte muy práctico, pero no si sea suficiente con eso o siempre tienes que graduar el corte con apoyandote con una escuadra. Agradecería mucho tus comentarios.
The first time I saw this saw was at a trade show. I chopped a quarter inch steel plate. I got no swarf on my clothes. I was wearing a suit. We bought 4 of these for my installation teams.
@Tibor Uray hello, how much cutting depend of what you cut and how... It's suposed to cut only max thickness: 6mm ! More thickness make the blade overheat and kill it dam fast... You also have to limit the pressure on the blade when thickness is max or over, again overheat problems... If you respect this, it last very long, and the cut is so fast, nice and doesn't heat steel, it's a need to have machine. But it has it's limit, ignore it and you can buy blades by 10! 😄
@@Feub69 Is it though? The green blades say max 3mm, the orange blades say 6mm, but the blue don't specify a maximum thickness at all.
Nice. Now people don’t have to be worried about you burning down your shop.
It is nice that Evolution sent you the “blue” model instead of the “yellow/orange” one. Yours has the cast metal base instead of the stamped metal base that some people complain about.
A big improvement over your grinder cuts. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You cut a 90 mm steel rod with an angle grinder lol I feel your pain brother
Really nice tool im glad you found a safer alternative that puppy cuts really clean
I'm glad too. Don't have to wear that breath restrictive dust mask that often anymore too.
That pic made me watch and the video made me subscribe. diy for life!
I was born with my favorite tool!!
Very happy for you! It does a great job on threaded rod too. Make sure you are always making chips with it. The chips carry away the heat. Just nice even firm pressure on the cut.
Yup, like on wood cutting blades. I wanna add some coolant system on it in the future.
Don't use liquid coolant - - carbide teeth will chip if they are thermally shocked.
A Compressed air blast works good.
Thanks for the tip. I contacted the company and they didn't recommend the usage of coolant either. Plus using compressed air is a really simple way compared to liquid coolant. Cheers!
So what does it take for that company to send me one of those I want one of those for quite a while
Schöner Beitrag- endlich mal ein Video, in dem ein ordentliches Stück Vollmaterial mit einer solchen Säge zersägt wird.
Looks awesome, I want one. I think a squirt of WD40 or other lubricant during the cut would go a long way to keep your blade cooler and cut even faster\cleaner
wd40 will burn fast and wouldnt give anything except of unpleasant smell. Only constant cooling by coolant, but it's impossible 'cos of danger of electrical shock. And, i think, manufacturer would wrote something about cooling, if it is necessery.
@@СтаниславЩ unpleasant smell? youre a monset if you dont like the smell of wd40
Lubricant is not necessary. I own one and after two years and frequent use, the blade hasn't shown any sign of wear. Regards.
I have several saws using these carbide blades and about every 10 cuts or so, I hit 'em with a tube wax lubricant. Lifetime supply for about $15. and you can really extend the life of the blade. Slow and steady is the best (ask your wife)....
Worth buying good products,i like it very much nothing much to say hats off evosaw 355
Having used both a metal chop saw and a band saw in a machinist shop work I still prefer the bandsaw. Yes they can be a bit more bulky and can take up space, but with them you can run a cutting coolant to prolong the life of the blade. Where with a chop saw I've seen coolant used on them and warp the blade. And they can qet very expen$ive. Milwaukee brand makes a 'PORTA-BAND' saw that in many cases are much better option to a chop saw.
True, i sold my cold cut saw and im getting bandsaw, to expensive cuts for me. They tell you that saw last 20 abrasives, but not tell you that you need to resharpening it. Period from sharp blade to dull is life time of one abrasive blade and abrasive blade is cheaper than resharping cold cut saw. I will buy bandsaw whitout coolant system (much cheaper) then add collant system by my own.
I have one in my Knife Making shop..I purchased the stainless cutting blades. I bought a spare blade convinced it would fail quickly. I have never had to change blades. Very impressive! I cut mostly ATS-34 and 154-CPM with it. Very tough steels!
KnifeMaker
Did you tried the stainless blade on mild steel or carbon steel??? I am very interested in buying one evolution chop saw and using a stainless steel blade dor cutting everything 😀
Think of the time you'll save. Nice tool addition.
Think how many cuts you can do before servicing the disc at very high rates.
Super saw my friend real good stuff
chips are looking awful hot/molten around the 4:00 mark.. is the blade still good? wonder if it was too much feed pressure or if it just shouldnt cut this much without a break to cooldown at the halfway point
maybe manually spray some coolant on the larger cuts like these
I want to build a cooling system on it to make cutting more convenient.
sounds like simple project, filter/ recycle the coolant hopefully dislike coolant being dumped down the drain
i have the 10" evo cold cut saw and ive noticed it doesnt like thick round stock.. heavy square tubing is fine.. only reason i see for this is clamping variations.. so i recommend making sure you put all itll suffer into clamping stock down to get consistent tests
A liquid coolant would make a mess, use a dry lubricant such as foxfirelubricant.com/ there are others out these, this is just one
Andrew Browner The problem is not the way you clamp it. The blade cuts a curve into stock metal. There is no possibility for the chips to get out of the cut. When cutting tube the blade makes two cuts and the chips get out of the way easily. For a cooler cut and a longer blade life, just interrupt the cut a couple times, let the blade turn freely and cool itself down. For round stock with this diameter, I would recommend to cut it in at least 8 portions with about 8-10 seconds of cool down time between.
But that’s valid for all types on chop saws when you cut into thick material. You do the same when drilling holes into soft wood. Otherwise there will be too much friction between the chips and the blade/drill bit.
This is very nice and 100% great cutter. Woooww. I 💛 it
that's the end of that blade
Your wrong. I own the same saw that I've been using for over a year. I've cut heavy and light steel, aluminum and even a little wood. Original blade is still cutting well.
About half way through the bar stock, the chips turned red. I think that was the end.
@@albs1957 where can I buy one of these blades?I have a saw(different brand)but it has the grinder type material blades.if one of these is equal to 20 of the one I have,I'm sold!can you send me a link?
Very useful machine
Bem vindo ao futuro, chega de disco abrasivo!
Você tem uma dessa? Interessante só que o disco de corte custa caro em torno de 700 reais tem que ver a durabilidade do disco quantas afiacões aguenta
@@laercerosa Aqui é novidade, veja o comentário abaixo.. de Ernie Nalty. Uma máquina com 10 anos de idade e funcionando como nova. Porém, quanto ao preço do disco, deve estar caro por ser novidade aqui, depois que popularizar, abaixa o valor.
Onde consigo uma dessas
A makita tem uma muito boa se não falha a memória é lc1230
@@fabao8527 É a q eu tenho. Ja Cortei até trilho de trem. O Disco dura muito, sendo q cirto basicamente metalons de até 2 mm e ocasionalmente coisas mais grossas. Precisão do corte estupenda, corte limpo e sem calor, faz pouquíssima sujeira / fagulhas e nenhuma fumaça. Cara, mas não me arrependo de nenhum centavo gasto nela.
Really nice tool. Negative pitch rake carbide teeth really does the job well
During to cutting iff bore oil applied blades will last longer
Water is better , cools off faster
Good Efficient , time saving tool .. But the negative side is these blades are very fast so cannot use a coolant which ultimately decreases the blade life. Another advantage with using the coolant is the metal dust gets carried away with the coolant instead of flying /spreading in the atmosphere . Be careful to definitely use the safety goggles// glasses .
A slower speed tool with constant coolant flow & circulation if can be provided with such tools will be much safer & better finish although will take a little more time -- like it is in big machine tools.
As much as I love using my everlast plasma cutter, this would make a fine addition to my shop.
Greg Stanley ت
Greg Stanley How much does Neverlast pay you fanboys to mention their inferior products in the comment sections of these RUclips videos. If their products were any good, they would not need to have people mention their products like you do. If for no other reason, this is why I would never own their products.
you cant compare a plasma cutter to a chopsaw 2 completely different jobs
Sweet saw Donn, about time. Its going to save you so much time and energy.
I hope so! ;)
Donde comprar el Disco por favor.gracias por subir el video.muy buena herramienta.ya las tengo pero no el disco.
Thank you for your time
Nice.
No Limit
great addition to your shop. Nice birthday present!!
I think so too. I hope it lasts for a long time. :D
LIKE,testado ao extremo e aprovado. SHOW parabéns. Um forte abraço e fique com DEUs.
Congrats! Congrats!
You need not to worry what the trolls have to say about safety, ie. sparks and fire hazard. Piss on them!!!
Ditto
I was cringing while you were cutting the solid bar I was wondering should u use liquid cutting spray to help
awesome hand tools
love my evolution but you better really clamp material down, blades seem to last forever
People complain of fire hazard cutting metal indoors.
Buys new saw for cutting metal indoors.
Proceeds to cut with new tool outside.
😂
Using it indoors for ages now. If I didn't do it in the video it doesn't mean I didn't do it at all. 😜
aleluiaaaa, como demorou, os serralheiros de ferro agradecem
Why you don't put the link where you bought bro?
Espectacular fantastica maquina sensitiva,,LA MEJOR,saludos desde POSADAS,ARGENTINA
Great👍👍👍 awesome..!!!!
that's pretty neat, faster then my abrasive disc for sure. it's a winner!
RIP head phone users! 😉
Juha Erkkila samaa meinasin sanoo 😂
Sorry for that. I skipped the cutting part while editing with my headphones on. Watched the whole cutting bit through after uploading and publishing the video. Then it was already too late. I stepped on my own rake, so to say, and had to use sign language when talking to my wife in the evening. :D
he did say: "eye and hearingprotection on". so je did warn you 😂
Wha is the cist price of this machine sir?
@@DonnDIY Bro what about Aluminium 6 & 7 ,Series
Means "Allowed"
Der Schnittverlauf am runden Rohling verlief vom kalten Span zum heißen Funkenflug. Die Reibehitze läßt auch den besten Wiediastahl der Säge schnell abstumpfen. Ohne Kühlmittel ist vom Eisenschnitt abzuraten!
I've been eyeing one for AWHILE but I thought they had I recommend dia. limit like one inch.for solids....and only so thick..of plate! what the recommendations?
Prettier cuts on bar stock than with a chisel. I would forge a bunch of chisels and sell them for this beauty.
I don't think I've ever watched a video on RUclips that required hearing protection. Ouch.
Hearing protection doesn't even work in real life when your using that saw 🤣
Top notch brand
Здравствуйте, я балдею от вашей тарцовки по металлу. Сколько она стойт? Пришлите хотя-бы характеристики диска от нее
По России - около пятидесяти рублей без диска...
яндекс кажет 60 рублей, если учесть, что "у них" она стоит меньше 400 баксов, остается только охеревать на "импортозамещение" и аппетиты таможни и торгашей.
@@AndyLumex
Я находил и 48 и 52 и 65 - аппетиты у всех разные, но я думаю сам диск(сталкивался но не с такими) будет стоить ОЧЕНЬ хороших денег, если это не Россия(СП - с офисом в Москве и производством в Китае) или не голимый "сарайный" Китай - дай Бог - если это будет "брэнд". Кстати, сейчас некоторые китайские "брэнды" - стоят ДОРОЖЕ немецких или амерских "оригиналов"...Там уже доходит до смешного - китайцы - китайцев подделывать начали и уже очень давно...
Удачи.
Дядь, открой для себя глобальный интернет, на амазоне этот диск стоит 70 баксов (~4500 деревяшек) все остальное - хотелки и непомерные аппетиты торгашей.
Тут важно другое, диск этот садится очень быстро, за такие деньги проще ленточку с водой полуавтомат взять. Рез тоньше, пилит дольше, лента изнашивается гораздо медленнее. А это - понты для приезжих.
@@AndyLumex
"Дядь", если ты рассуждаешь такими категориями - купи себе пескоструйный резак с программным управлением и не еби не себе не людям мозг - я исходил из того, что есть...
If you saw such blanks, the disk will not last for a long time, up to half of the cut the chips were light, and then the teeth began to deteriorate and the chips went red! If you only saw the profile, then Yes, it will work .
Where I can get this tool
I want it
¡Gracias!
Your going to kill your blade sawing square tubing like that! Those sparks are from the blade trailing edge friction. TCT welded inserts on the blade will chip easily with this style of cutting.
You seem knowledgeable. You know the life of the blades? I do commercial framing an it's all abrasive disks. Think it would be worth the money for me, buying this?
it is a beautiful cut
I would stay away from those saws because the blades are so expensive, get a bandsaw with liquid cooling.. those blades will last a long time because they don’t get that hot.Besides the circular metal saws throw chips all over the place which are dangerous. A trip to the hospital is very expensive.
well deserved.. pained me to watch all those cuts with an angle grinder lol.. even though you managed to make really clean cuts with it
Adoraria poder comprar uma máquina dessas...
Es fácil de hacer
Works better when you wax the blade before each use (saves carbides)
классная пила !!!!
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not even kidding, I was considering sending you a chop saw last night!!
Thanks for that thought! ;)
Opa!! Enfim alguém posta um equipamento que há muito deveríamos ter a disposição no Brasil, Gostaria que me informase como foi o procedimento pra trazê-la, ou como adquiriu no Brasil, se há importadores, e os valores? Como está sendo tua experiência agora que você tem mais qualidade de acabamento. Não deu pra perceber, mas qual é o nível de ruído que ela produz?
Gostei da sua pergunta
Gostaria de saber aqui no Brasil se já tem ela ha venda
Vc já pode comprar os discos pelo mercado livre
A máquina é cara? O disco custa em torno de 700 reais
I purchased this saw for metal framing. The blade lasted about 3 days. I'm framing with 16 gauge metal. I've used at least 10 different blade manufacturers, but all of them failed miserably. I went back to a regular chop saw and I can get a lot more use out of 1 blade than this one.
Really that bad huh?
@@stn7172 It's a bad saw for metal framing, but for heavier gauge steel it's great.
Muito bom 👍
I like my chop saw! It makes a lot better sparks!!
· If use of water would have been more good
I have an older evolution, no problems, awsome saw
Did that round stock cook that new blade?
Nope, it still cuts well.
That blade cost 100.00$ to.
The carbide blade is more expensive than abrasive blade。 isn't it?
Sure, look like it to me. Watch as the blade cuts deeper & sparks started flying. Obvious this is heat and heat dulls.
I would have used some cutting oil to extend the life of the blade.
@@Rambleon444 the hot chips are taking the heat away from the cutter and the work. That's the reason the piece wasn't excessively warm ... the only problem I could see was the amount of teeth in the work at one time. Not being able to clear enough fast enough.
I have the Makita LC1230. These saws beat angle grinders and abrasive saws by a mile.
Great professional saw, can you give the price?
On eBay it is sold for £259.00 + £41.48 shipping.
Thank you very much, I gave 278 zlotys for the green model, only in Poland
link pls?
@@pawelaco down on México it cost almost double. Greetings.
The thing is the blade,you can fit it actually to any brand saw with same arbor size.thank you
the things a pos. I just threw mine away. I don't recommend this brand to anyone. Mine ate blades and they couldn't be resharpened because the blades were always cracked. When I contacted the company they told me it was my fault because I had too much vibration. Saw had bad bearings and they refused to stand behind the product. The casing cracked and parts fell off.
I will get to know this saw more in the future. This was just an initial tryout. I hope you find a saw that suits your needs. Thanks for watching!
Sweet! Been looking for a video on these blades. And congrats!
Has anybody else gone deaf yet??
Sorry for that... :)
What kind of fool lets the sound stay uncomfortable?
calvingreene90 what kind of fool cant recognise when someone is having a laugh?
Tinitus ia around the corner if you don't protect your self..
I got the power saw from Evolution and it's good until you hit weld metal then the teeth get ruined super fast.I am glad that they sent you this machine though as watching you use your grinder for everything was driving me crazy. Looks like Spring has arrived for you.
Using angle grinders is in my DNA, every time I need to cut something I automatically grab an angle grinder. Now I have to readjust. Yes, finally Spring has arrived!
@@DonnDIY what's wrong with angle grinders? Why do they bother?
always cut without overheating, the red chip was over head and it will make the blade dull overtime and will be blunted shorted than actual blade life. using coolant and variable speed controller will make the blade life longer twice as specification time, slowing speed if material overthickness. best regards..
That 90mm solid bar stock test was a good test.
Am I the only one that noticed the sparks half way through the cut? That was the end of the blade. If he tried to make another cut on the same stock, at half way through, the blade would be devoid of any tooth like things anymore. I'm talking, just a round, smooth disc.
Congrats! Beautiful tool!
Yay! I was thinking of a cut-off tool every time I see you use a grinder to cut stock. Not only will you now get faster cuts, but will save you time when you carefully lay out cut marks on each side of a tube, etc. And the cut is so clean and straight with so little effort. I hope you enjoy each slice.
Thanks man. I will enjoy this tool! ;) Thanks for watching!
I got one 12 months ago I'm happy with it but not for hardened steel like reebar but yes very good 👍
Muy buen disco y la maquina tambien, genial. Saludos
Great tool. Congrats on the new man toy (tool)
Nice saw. Not for production work, but good for small shop
Parabéns pela aquisição Donn!
I bought the evolution 10” miter saw, on my third cut cutting 1/2” round mild steel the piece turned in the saw maybe one tenth of a turn and I lost three teeth on the blade. I Agree the clamping system on my saw is different but a slight mistake will cost me over $80. I also took the time to tighten the clamp as much as I could. Three cuts, $80.
You need to be using a cutting compound with your new toy..
It makes the blade last longer, cooler and less fatigue on the motor. Lots of brands out there.. you want big tube the stuff looks like Amber colored wax. Great for drill bits, band saw. I even use it for long screws into wood just to mention a few. It's like duct tape and WD-40... lot's of uses. Try it you'll love your self for it.
Olá muito boa essa máquina,vcs teriam representantes no Brasil,ou um contato que eu possa comprar
Great new saw.
Very nice tool
Parece boa máquina , talvez precise de óleo solúvel na hora do corte pro disco não sofrer tanto 😉👍
voce sabe se tmos esse disco no brasil ?