Pushing Coolant, The EG33 Subaru WRX STI is down for the count.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- I figured the MLS Gaskets would let go at some point. But TBH I was hoping I would get some more life out of it.
The only real solution I've seen is Building another short block that accommodates proper Fire locks. and if we are building another Enigne I am doing the stroker kit that I always wanted to do. Although I still am on the fence about swapping a different engine in VS this. From a cost standpoint building another short block seems to be the most cost-effective route.
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Building a 1 off full custom setup, you run into issues. But that's how you learn what works and don't. You got all the ground work done and now you know which way to go. It's still awesome as hell Tanner. I wouldn't of been able to do that for sure. Great build.
Thankfully it’s really just a short block swap if we really wanted to just do that. It’s not a crazy big deal but it’s definitely a pricey one. Since it’s coming out we’re just doing everything we can at this point to ensure it keeps a seal 🦭
@Smeedia when you're done, you will truly have a 1 of 1
2JZ swap!!!! ❤❤❤
Fire rings. Round .105” cut a groove in the head, and block. Allow for .007 crush never blow a head gasket again. Ever. This was my fix for the Subaru. Copied the Cummins fire ring. Absolutely perfect round groove. Allows for a tight seal and no chatter like the square fire rings do
I’m here for the RX7, Porsche, and everyday ej25 content 🙌🏼 the H6 stuff is cool but not attainable for me. 😅
You're learning hard lessons for the benefit of the whole community, literally blazing the trail for future swaps of this nature.
Hopefully others learn from the issues and can avoid them 😅
The best part about this channel is the realism and relatability that comes from it ! You got this man
Things go wrong and no sense in hiding things 🫡
Agree 👍
So basically you are turning a Subaru Flat 6 into a Porsche quality Flat 6. Sounds pretty cool actually.
It's funny cuz I was just thinking the same exact thing.. I can't wait for him to dig into his Porsche because there's all kinds of really cool stuff you can do with those motors and a lot of people have spent decades refining the art of modifying Porsches to do absolutely amazing things.
Don't give up Tanner, the H6 Perfomance Builders will be rooting for you!
Ima see what ZRP says about turn around times and final costs on the stroker kit 🙏
@@Smeedia best of luck, can't wait to see what happens. I'm still trying to get my headers right for the third or fourth time so I feel ya. Its tough love but it will pay off in the end. A 3.7 stroker would be wild! ☺
All 10 of us lmao
@@Smeedia what about a de-stroker similar to the EJ's? does it make sense for the geometry of the EG?
Tanner don't build a Drag Car , build a road race car it will be a lot more fun . Just a thought . Drag racing is a money pit. Sorry about Blu .
Ima use the 911 for road coarse stuff, as ass backwards as it sounds I want the Subaru to be the stupid fast one out of the bunch 😂
EZ30/36?👀
No matter what happens with this car it'll always be the one that inspired me to get my own STI and start modifying it. This next version is gonna be the one 👌
I think with this 3.7L close decked and sleeved engine with fire locks it should hopefully be square after that. The only issue we have is the head gaskets at this point 😅
Tanner, I think its awesome that you're gonna give it another chance, i think it's worth it, although I'm not spending the money and time that you are, your work is greatly appreciated and admired. Whatever route you decide to go im sure it'll be great.. Cheers homie and can't wait for whatever you have in mind.
I'm sorry to hear, man! I know how it is to build things and things not go the way that it's supposed to. I have two projects going on currently. That being said, you are literally the gateway to future builds like this. There are only a few EGs being pushed at such high levels, but none have massive followings like you do. You never know who could be watching your progress or what company could see potential in this engine to start offering aftermarket support. You are so close and already there. Definitely take a break from the car for a while. That's the best thing to do to clear your mind. Put your attention on your other cars, take a vacation, ease your mind. Keep at it man! If anyone can do it, it's you. You put so much passion into this project and it would be a shame for you to just scrap it. That...and you can't let the haters win, lol. Take care, bud! Looking forward to seeing more of your future videos 🤙🏾
You said the words man. 2JZ. Huge aftermarket support and a bullet proof block and head. Build it up and go to the moon if you want. But I still vote one more try!!!
I'm glad you're not giving up on the eg, that setup is how I found your channel and why I subscribed. Keep up the good work my man, all your builds are looking great. Time for some 2.5RS love?
Love watching all your videos! I have. A 2017 wrx myself and getting all my ideas from you.
If you’re going to go that far with the engine make it perfect! As in SEMA quality. There’s no other car that shows your hard work. And would be perfect for a future event when the car is built again lol.
As a huge fan of the channel and of this build I’d totally be fine with you going in a different direction and trying a different engine. I think you’ve proven what this engine is capable of and accomplished a lot with the build take what you learned and put a new engine In it and send to the🌙
Wow that’s crazy hearing to swap from haltec to motec! My first Evo that made 800hp was on a motec and at that time local tuners did not like the motec.
Keep it up man. Your videos on the vb wrx help me work on mine and go fbo. I love seeing the h6 sti cause it’s super unique and sounds nasty asf
Hey dude, sometimes when you roll the dice, you lose. No big deal. You did a 1-off custom build pushing big power and there's nothing to be mad about. Keep it going dude. 2020 STi in my driveway and you helped me work up the cajones to do my own work on my car.
Tanner, you’re almost there, almost there. We been watching you for years with this engine. Blade the trails
youre on a journey man, i think youre the only person to do this to my knowledge. Theres bound to be bumps
aw man... this hurts. But, considering that you've put this together all the way up to this point, you know the weak points. TwopointBlu is going to be nasty. You're an inspiration to every one of us Subie peeps, Tanner. Keep your head up, my guy. You got this!
zf designs is well regarded in colorado and the grassroots rally crowd, I had one of their clutches in my hatch and i really liked the product, they'll do the EG right. I would also recommend seeing if Flatirons tuning would be interested in cross collaborating, and while I love josh, it might also help to bring Harvey at the Boost Creep in for consultation as well.
Smeeedz! It’s been a while it’s the dude with the bugeye in Australia we spoke a while back my man! How are you? The eg33 is looking sexy! I’m picking up a bone stock well looked after 2015 VA sti with 189,000kms (117,439) miles cars in immaculate condition , service history all dated and stamped I can’t wait to get it and feel what a sti can do!
The bluebaru has been quite challenge for your patience, and wallet. I feel for your sadness about continual problems. Jumping to the truck and rx7 may refresh your energy and spirit. We'll all be watching with support. Wish you the best, Tanner 😊
Sometimes gotta walk away from things for a bit 😅 one day it won’t haunt me 😂
3:35 what a beastly sound ♥️
All power to you bro, rough news.. taking it like a champ.
Did you consider a Spoon engine, T66 turbo with NOS setup and a MoTeC System exhaust?
Good luck. Those parts would fetch a premium this close to Race Wars.
Subaru every day the story of my life
LS swap ftw. Pretty sure Mezgers are crazy money. Whatever you end up doing I’m here for it! 👍😊
Tanner..Marty at Mighty car mods has done a eg motor making heaps of power it was built in new Zealand from memory but it's an Australian channel you may know it..I m pretty sure it runs on Haltech..tu n Ed by Tuning Fork..a nickname for the Haltecg guy..dont do anything until you talk with them
What did you do to piss off the subie God’s? They’re straight up smiting you. You might need to sacrifice a Evo or Audi to appease them. VR38DETT swap
I just saw this blow by test on another vehicle earlier today. Haha damn you got some crazy pressure on that motor! I don't know if you have heard of mighty car Mods. It's an Aussie guy with a similar 3.0 flat six. He had better dyno results with a smaller turbo
It may be a tough pill to swallow, but everything you have learned going through this is stuff you will never forget. The growth in fab, modification, and as a person is worth the journey. ❤️
It’s been an incredible project but respectfully, building a very high horsepower setup with an engine that is uncommon and doesn’t have a lot of parts support anymore was kind of a recipe for disappointment or disaster.
I cracked up when you showed the puddle it left overnight because it reminded me of when we had a puppy! Are you taking on any fixit jobs to help fund this engine block swap? Hehe
You know there's a huge problem when Smeedia posts a video so early in the day.
RIP (ish) to Blu 😮💨 Wishing you the best moving forward!! At this point I think you need a different engine in that car man. This thing is a black hole.
Actively searching for cliff sides to push this thing off of 😂
Much respect to you for always keeping calm in the face of challenges ! Subarus are also my curse, sooo good to drive but sooo difficult to keep running 😂 my current method is just keeping them stock and adding a loud exhaust 🤷♂️🤦♂️
P.s there comes a time when you just gotta walk away from high power Subaru builds, theres a lot of modern platforms making huge power on stock engines (Audi RS6/BMW M3/B58 etc..) just my 2 cents 🤷♂️ you could always tune down to 500hp and enjoy a great car as it is too !
sometimes self reflection is needed to understand the problem in order to fix it. i like and enjoy as well as admire your work. i even watch some of the old vids from the other project cars. and am not gonna lie, miss Karma. that was special. but keep doing what you do and don't quit. its no tin your dna. your determination inspires me and pushes me to do the same with life and its objectives even with the subie i have. want tot build a 600 hp car for daily . keep up the good work. see you out there. # subielife
I was about to beg you to keep the EG and then you started saying some pretty nice things :P
lol looking at options for cost the 3.7L is the most cost effective permeant solution
Don’t give up!
put the cars nose in the coolant so it knows what it did wrong
Lmao rub its face in it 😂
🤣🤣
Tbh it should have been close deck from the get go. I would think, considering the power you want out of it. I feel your pain haha. You will prevail 💪
"I'm so over the problems at this point" It's almost like you took an engine and pushed it well beyond it's natural limits or something, weird. These things just come with the territory at this point, as I'm sure you're aware.
"I fix one problem, I get four more..." Amen... I'm in the same boat. My alternator blew a few weeks ago, got a new alternator in there last weekend, which required taking off the upper coolant hose & the fan shroud assembly, went to go bleed the system and the bleeder valve cracked in half as I touched it. Thankfully that is apparently a common enough issue to have a billet Dorman valve on the shelf at the auto part store.
I heard Mezger and got excited
If you're thinking about ditching the eg, maybe try swapping in a Porsche flat 6? I can't say I've seen a Porsche swapped subaru but I think that'll be dope, especially now that you're getting I to Porsche stuff.
Love the videos bro, keep it up 👏🏽.
That sucks man but I don't think you will regret your dream for this build to come to fruition. I'm stoked to see it done. The RX7 and the Porche are gonna be dope-a-lishious!
Poor Blue 😢 you'll get her back up and running again Tanner!
I would say LS swap but then the car wouldn’t be that special anymore because that’s like the default engine swap. Unless it was a more unique LS engine and not just an LS3. Cool swaps I can think of are 2JZ, B58, 5.0 Coyote… idk. What I do know is the EG33 doesn’t really seem like it makes good power in general. Like all this work and you’re still only a bit above the power level you had in the WRX and that was just an EJ. I am curious how much of a difference the stroker kit would make though.
"We over built the engine so we would never have a problem", said no Top Fuel Team ever.
Cheer up dude. There are no problem free cars. They don't exist.
They all have one issue or another, just finding the issues and remedying them 🫡
Look forward to seeing the porsche more
Trust, we will keep watching, these are my favorite videos on RUclips. Doing something that hasn’t been done.
3.7L with proper firelocks seems to be the most cost effective solution 👌
@@Smeedia Bro, you come so far and so many people are rooting for your success with this engine. The latest dyno pull and hearing that thing cranked up was a symphony of Hard work and dedication. Take your time you have 95% of this motor dialed. Cpl more things to beef it up but this is labor of love. Love doesn’t come without pain. Also I heard you mention full exhaust I think that would yield a more refined exhaust note and look more sleeperish overall a better finished product. Look how it looks now freaking sick with the wrap and fenders. The Porsche is sick, the rx7 will be dope. But the STI is Tanner and Tanner is the STI. When that car pops up on my feed we all stop everything and watch. Keep going your almost there.
I feel you with the constant issues. Every time i think i have my STI running something else pops up where i have to take it apart again. De moralizing
Tanner you should hit up Rob Dahm and see if he could machine you proper gaskets for it! He has crazy amount ofs of machining capabilities since the RX7 and he always seems happy to help people out with new and crazy stuff!
Dude, you sucked it and saw and made some superb content along the way. Looking forward to all the stuff still to come. :)
BUT SIR, WHAT COLOUR COULD THE LIKE BUTTON TURN??!
Seeing you overcome whatever happens to your cars makes me wanna keep building. Keep going 💪
I am glad you decided to build another eg33. It will be dope when it is built.
You got this homie! I believe in you 🙏
As a massive Subaru fan, I personally hope on doing a JZ swap into a bugeye one day, so I wouldn't mind seeing you go down that path :)
Wouldn’t be. Bad option TBH 😅
Bro, you really need $$$$ counter on the top right corner of the screen of this built, that we we keep track it, instead of episode number its $$$, LOL Sorry to her that, WOW, right when you thought the is perfect... Sorry
It’s not the end of the world, if I really wanted we could slap another MLS Gaskets in and turn it down a bit. Just a short block sealing issue
Rip the eg33 dream 🥲, eg37 otw 🗣️
Why not just drive it and stomp on it occasionally. Why do you need 600 HP? (Or whatever it makes) It’s a cool build as it is. I don’t understand the need to have over the top HP. But that’s me.
The gasket will just continue to get worse and fail more and more leading to more severe issues. We could slap new MLS Gaskets in it but I suspect it’ll fail again over time
Put an ////AMG motor in it. V8 biturbo one, 😅❤
You can pull your heads and have them O ringed. If you want to go further you’ll need to split your engine and cut them for fire rings aka top fuel hoops. You be fine with a stainless steel wire O ring. Also have you tried to order a copper head gasket for this engine?
I tried getting some custom cooper head gaskets made. But no companies will make em because there’s no real market for it. If we’re going back into it I’d rather do everything proper and have everything cut for proper rings on it. Don’t wanna have to do this again later on 😩
@@Smeediathat can’t be right. I’ve ordered plenty of custom copper head gaskets. You supply the CAD drawing for the head gasket or send them a head gasket and they’ll scan it and laser cut it. Call Clark Copper Head Gaskets. They even have different thicknesses of copper so you can customize your compression ratio.
@@Smeediagoogle for “laser cutting and engraving” ask them what materials they can cut and then material thicknesses and bed size. Would be funny if you got a CAD proficient old lady named Suzy cut you some copper gaskets. You can order copper sheets for flashing. I rebuilt a bunch of dirt bikes this way.
Aaaaaauuuuuuh, your Subie peed the bed. Seriously, great vid as always. Getting to bullet proof is NOT a smooth mountain. But you can't climb a smooth mountain.
Tanner you need to do the 2jz swap!!
Lets do a go fund me for this car. Even 1$ from most of us will do it. Lets go guys. Lets see this thing be bullet proof and zero issues
Just saying the ez would be fun
I love this car but it is a nightmare.
If you do change up engine platforms, what about an RB20 or some skyline engine to keep the car AWD
Oh the problem child reminding you of it's place 😂
Lmao every got daym day 😂
I would have Outfront O-ring the cylinders for better head gasket sealing. My buddy’s who used to sleeve engines would have the cylinders O-ringed by the machine shop. Hopefully that would solve the issue
Unfortunately they can’t/wont do it without tooling. Doesn’t make sense for them as a company to buy the jig to do it if I’m the only customer using it
I think u should put a x engine ej and make 1300 and it will make more
Perfect plan 👍🏽
Do the ultimate STI vs Evo ender. Drop in a built 4G63 🤣
Sucks car is giving you so much trouble, car does sound so good though, whatever you decide to do with it I’m here for it
At the end of the day it’s really just a short block replacement with proper fire locks, it just gets annoying 😂 if we’re doing this again we’re just doing the 3.7L build 🔥
@@Smeedia it’s understandable, loving the sti though, can’t wait to see what u do with it, appreciate the reply
Don't give up! I'm so glad to hear your rebuilding it into a stroker! Longtime follower and you got me into subaru, currently building my motor with the IAG 750 longblock 🎉🎉
We had fire rings installed in our big high boost diesel engines
Put the 2JZ with a proper full exhaust 👍
Subaru love sometimes feels like Stockholm Syndrome.
The accuracy of this is too true lmao
If it makes you feel better, my '05 STi got totaled on Friday...
Literally the only car I've wanted since 2004. At least I got about 11 years out of her 😭
Damn, what happened?
That sucks sorry man. Have a shop make you a custom fit head gasket maybe? IDK? At least you have the Porsche still running LOL. Maybe dial back to 890-900 HP and or a few less pounds of boost. put a built FA24 in it? The new WRX guys would love that content.
Subi performance on YT make some incredible motors idk if thatll just be way out of the price range tho
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Single owner 🤘MY02 WRX Wagon🤘w/ 200k miles here! I am curious about your decision to swap out your Haltech for Motec... both have Displays, PDM, etc. Thank you for your answer and content. 💗💗BugEye 4Lyfe!✌
The EG33 build is what got me hooked on your channel. Keep pushing! Don't give up!
@Smeedia @RichardsLegendaryGarage
Why not build a EZ36? De-stroke it with the 3.0 crank will open the door for symmetrical connecting rods. Finish it off with twin turbos… this is a build idea I’ve had for a while. Why would this setup not work?
Ej20 big power build please!
Sad to see the EG33 is leaving! Watching your journey with the 6 cylinder has been so engaging and mind blowing. Looking forward to the next phase of Blue!!! But BIGGG yes to a balls to the wall FA24. I had thoughts of swapping an FA24 into a STi! P.S: Is that a Varis hood or another brand like MSP? Thanks!
Look into MightyCarMods here in Australia they build there H6 with possum burn Motorsports big Subaru guys. I’ll link both below
Mighty car mods H6 playlist:
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Possum burn motorsports:
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Tanner-Do you know about Cometic head gaskets? They are SS, multilayer and custom. Their MLX or HP gaskets should do the job. They are designed for your kind of situation. You can order any thickness you want. I am using them with ARP studs in my SVX 3.3 that I run in my VW Vanagon. They have to be ordered, they don't stock them for 3.3, but they have the dies. Worth a try--alot cheaper than another engine.
Part of car building! This is why its not for everyone 😁 I've spent so much on my built GSX that I could never sell it regardless of issues. Have you thought of a thicker head gasket like a 0.40 or 0.45
For most engines, we recommend the OEM gasket thickness. This will provide safe, reliable engine performance. Changing the gasket thickness should only be done when modifying an engine for high performance.
i would 100% go jz im all for that. but im bias and i own jzs im pretty sure there is a awd pan for a 2jz
Props to finally getting running. I quit watching your videos some time back when you were doing your wiring harness….. your really seem to know your stuff….. I know this part is my opinion but are your racing this thing? Track use drag strip? Or just for a fun/interesting project? If it’s not needed maybe turn your boost down? Just having something this special I’d rather it be more reliable so you could enjoy it for longer….. but that’s how I feel
This may seem amateur, so i apologize if it does, but why not go EZ30r or EZ36r? Ik the later is a stroked version of the prior like the ej207 and ej257. But why stay with the eg33 if its discontinued, and you are already ripping all of that out?
I bought a Baja that had been rebuilt with ARP bolts. I drove it for 12k miles and then same symptoms as you. Turns out to be a cracked head bolt. Let us in know if you figure out why the head is lifting.
I feel ya man, the same I think about my car, so much $$$ down, just crossing my fingers and not having any tipe of f#ck!ng failure, shiiiet, I'd be trying to invest on a RB26 or a 2JZ-GTE if I blew it for a future swap
Don’t 2jz swap it. I’ve seen a few of those in Subarus. I’ve seen a few different 4 bangers, a 2jz, skyline engine, a v12 but I’ve never seen a v10 in a Subaru. Just saying 👀
Tanner I'm sorry man, I'm right there with you. I just spent all of my savings and had to take out 2 loans to put a new motor in my STi, which I'm still paying for. Now, the loan payments are the same as my car payment. I took the car to a "subaru performance shop" for the block replacement, now the engine is ticking loud as heck and the shop wants more money to diagnose the issue and I'm flat broke trying to keep up with all the bills. The amount of stress, regret and depression I'm feeling right now is unreal. I should have never bought this car..
There is an old saying from owning a lot of Snap On Tools. Buy Once, Cry Once. I think this also applies to Blue.. Anything worth doing is worth doing the right way the 1st time without leaving any regrets on the table. Good move going to a Motec tho I'm wondering how a Fuel Tech would work out for you.. Good luck and keep the faith..
I know it’s pricey, but I’ve been thinking about a swap myself, what about a Porsche 4.0L Flat 6 from a GT3 RS. Can either keep it NA or twin turbo it.
Pull the flat six out and put a IAG Stage X Titanium block for $17000 and stop spending stupid money on the 6 cylinder. Unique for sure but not worth the liability
Ive got a 2019 sti and all of a sudden while driving to work, grannying the car, i get a lit up dash retaining to it running lean i have gone through absolutely everything and have no idea what to do as subaru cant figure it out. Throws P0171 and no one can figure it out. Anyone know what could be causing this? Ive already done plugs, injectors, O2 sensors pre and post cat, and checked leaks and havent found anything
Damn bruh I feel your pain idk how you deal with your subie. Why they cause us so main. Jut threw code after installing my Cobb turbo inlet p0171. Getting smoke test tmr, and go from there.
Salute to you brother 🫡. Most go where the path takes them. You’re a trail blazer making your own path. That is courageous in itself and inspiring to us all.
One day at a time 🫡 thankfully the only real issue is just getting a gasket to seal 🦭