God I love Dave & crew! I'm 50 & just thinking of track riding. I love engineering type stuff & want to get a R7 or R9 for beginning track work. God bless you Dave
Thanks for the kind words. I am proud to read that our work is inspiring to you to get started at the track! The MT09 might be a better fit for you with the torque it offers? Depends what you ride for the street as you should have some close compatibility in engine size and configuration.
I'm pretty surprised at how much life I've gotten out of my power 5s. Probably 5-6 track days @ intermediate pace in hot conditions plus a couple thousand miles easily on a rear. It's wear-profiled (squared off) so I'm using it for commuting, and can probably get another 500 miles before hitting the center wear bars on the rear. Next up, s22.
@@atotalmoron the front tire separated at the chords! The rear almost capped off!! That would have been way shitty to have a rear tire throw off a hunk of tire! They had 2000miles on them and after a hard run in a straight line about 18miles the rs10s wear totally junked!!
Dave, about to use Michelin Power 5's at Sonoma this weekend on an RC8R. Curious to know what cold PSI you would run front and back? 30/30? Thanks for the video!
Still waiting for you to get to the Power GP....... you've done 2 out of the 4 Michilen tires. The DOT Cup 2 and the power 5 Now. The Power Slick 2 is pretty much the same as the cup 2, and the Power GP is a slightly stiffer and sticker tire closer the old RS. Definitely looking forward to it. I have the Battlax S22 so this video is greatly appreciated. I need some confirmation that the Power 5 is on the same level as the S22. Michelin says 155°F is optimal operating temps.
I can recommend the GP over the power 5, gets up to temp quicker and grippier which leads to more confidence =quicker. This is on an S1000rr, other bikes may suit different tyres.
I'm surprised Dave is testing the Power 5 and not the Power GP against these other hypersport tyres. Michelin state the Power 5 as a sporty road tyre, whereas their Power GP is described as a high performance road/occasional trackday tyre.....which would therefore suggest it being a more appropriate and fairer comparison for this test. Having previously favoured Metz and Bridgy's hypersports offerings for many many years, I have recently (about 2 years ago) made the change over to Michy, and I'm soooooo glad I did.
@@Gambo916 yeah well the Power GP would be Better compared to the Battlax RS11 not the S22. So the Power 5 is a fair comparison against the S22. They are the same category. Dave is right on this one 100%. So I don't think the Q3+ is a fair comparison because the Q3/Q3+ is fair against the Power GP, Battlax RS11, and Supercorsa SPv3. While the DOT race class the fair pick would be Q4, Power Cup 2, Battlax R11, and Supercorsa TD
@@sunnycanida9168 if go back you will clearly see that I've stated the Power GP is a Category ahead of the the S22 and Power 5. Being over a year since my original comment/ reply. I've ridden with both tires to a great degree. The Power GP can Handle the Power and Torque of 600cc Supersport all day! Even on a Panigale V4R at 236 BHP it will still nab pretty much all you can give it. On a Superbike like the V4R it has enough power to break traction at will and with little effort. However the difference being is that it is done very predictably. The way it breaks traction is once it starts spinning if the bike's on the right settings it spins very manageably. Even with the settings on low traction control race mode basically. Still spends in a very predictable manner and you can control it from the throttle with ease. That's more important than wondering if it has enough grip is how does it slip when you break the traction at will. And it recovers smoothly.
I know this video was posted like 3 years ago but I was wondering if these tires would be a good alternative to rain slicks for an amateur racer. I can't find the proper rear size for my fz07 (180/55) so I was wondering if these would be good enough in the wet for amateur light weight twin racing. Thanks!
I've gone through 2 sets of Q3+ (down to the carcass on the the left side of the rear, 3+ inches off the center of the tire. Road not track.... yet) on my 07 SV650S w/gixer front end, wheels and ZX10 shock. So these vs. Q3+?
Power 5 is a harder compound so it should in theory last longer. In the test it seemed to show the least amount of wear at the check in odometer readings we did.
@@catalystreactionsbw my question is if a rounder tire(power 5) reaches its lean limit easier than a taller one like supercorsas for example? And if a rounder tire rolls over quick then why most people prefer bigger profiles for track??
@@nikos.kouts3 More room to work. More width of tire makes the bike more usable (friendly) but it slows entry. Depends on your style of riding. Can you control the sharper profile? for Some people it's too fast.
@@SamBassComedy so you agree that sharper tiire is quicker than rounder right? Also my question is if with a rounder tire you ran out of lean angle faster because every time i used rounder tires i was running out of chicken strips faster
I have a ninja 1k with road 5's on it and started doing the odd track day last year. I now have a puncture in the rear and the tyres could probably do with replacing anyway. Would you recommend these as a replacement for general road use with the odd track day thrown in? It is a heavier bike, so the soft carcass might not be ideal? The road 5s did hold up fine for a rookie on track to be fair and I'm a bit of a michelin fan boy for road tyres. Long term I'd probably want to get an old 600 and put more racing focussed tyres on there. But for now the ninja should be fine for some casual track days.
I would stay with the Road 5';s for consistency and trust. You being content and getting the same response out of the motorcycle when riding is critical. Good point on an older motorcycle for track learning. If you can find an older ZX6 2000-2005 that would be ideal.
I commute no track. But I do ride hard and go very fast… which tires do you recommend me? I was looking at power 5 and rode 5 2014 CBR1000RR SP, i had Diablo súper corsa on rear and they only lasted me 3k miles…
@@catalystreactionsbw I’m not going same brand as oem or anything just want it right I’m in California a buddy of mine runs his CBR1000RR LE on power 5 and loves them
A soft carcass tire is a good match for a light bike in principle. If you are ADD or ADHD, a firmer carcass would help you feel much more comfortable when riding
I like the look of the power 5's but I'm trying to decide if I should get a more touring focused tyre like Dunlop roadsmart 4. I ride a 2012 cbr1000rr on English roads. I only normally ride in dry conditions and normally ride fairly smoothly and like to carry corner speed without too much hard braking and acceleration.. I want the tyres to work in cold conditions with quick warm up for short journeys. I also ride in hot conditions and like to push on abit sometimes. Can anyone recommend which tyre would work best?
If you enjoy agility in your CBR a more touring focus will slow down turn and and transitions. This seems like an ideal profile for you compared to the Hypersport category where it is a little harder to initiate but then the bikes falls into the turns and offers a lot of side grip for those that want to accelerate hard. As a compromise, I think the Pirelli Angel GT II will be a tyre that you really like.
Dave, @5:48 it states fellow Brit....so I'm guessing you are/were originally from the UK (where exactly)? I've often wondered about your accent, as it seems to be a mix of many different types, and doesn't define to one particular nation or country? Hope you don't mind me asking personal questions......if you want to tell me to mind my own soddin' business, I'll completely understand Sir.
Lol..... after traveling the world so much helping people, it has become a bit of a mess or mystery depending on your point of view. I was born in Manchester originally.
@@catalystreactionsbw Many thanks for the kind reply Dave. Manchester boy ehh!! I wouldn't say your accent is a mess....I think it's very intriguing and interesting. Thanks again Doooood.
Good to see the old GSXR holding its own against newer bikes on slicks.
Lol how he says its a dramatically colder day yet its 32c 😅😅 you'd be lucky to get that here in the uk lol
God I love Dave & crew! I'm 50 & just thinking of track riding. I love engineering type stuff & want to get a R7 or R9 for beginning track work.
God bless you Dave
Thanks for the kind words. I am proud to read that our work is inspiring to you to get started at the track! The MT09 might be a better fit for you with the torque it offers? Depends what you ride for the street as you should have some close compatibility in engine size and configuration.
no covid jokes i can tell a bong hit cough from a thousand miles away 😆😆😆😆
Dave has a driverstyle what the did in 1990. Nothing wrong with that.
I have got double the milage on my 5s then I have gotten on other tires! I don't really like the profile on the rear tire- but gotten used to it
That is it, everyone likes different things, some mix and match to get what they want.
I'm pretty surprised at how much life I've gotten out of my power 5s. Probably 5-6 track days @ intermediate pace in hot conditions plus a couple thousand miles easily on a rear. It's wear-profiled (squared off) so I'm using it for commuting, and can probably get another 500 miles before hitting the center wear bars on the rear. Next up, s22.
@@atotalmoron oh man I am not a fan of Bridgestone..... The rs10s are junk
@@freelancerider100 I'd considered them prior to picking up a set of s22. What's up with the rs10s?
@@atotalmoron the front tire separated at the chords! The rear almost capped off!! That would have been way shitty to have a rear tire throw off a hunk of tire! They had 2000miles on them and after a hard run in a straight line about 18miles the rs10s wear totally junked!!
Dave, about to use Michelin Power 5's at Sonoma this weekend on an RC8R. Curious to know what cold PSI you would run front and back? 30/30? Thanks for the video!
Sorry I missed this. Hope you had a great time and it wasn't too cold. I would have suggested 27 rear and 31 front for 50F temp range.
@@catalystreactionsbw 50F being the tempature of the tire? Have a track day coming up using the power 5s trying to find the ideal cold temperature
@@YouKnowWendy50 ambient… not tire heat.
Still waiting for you to get to the Power GP....... you've done 2 out of the 4 Michilen tires. The DOT Cup 2 and the power 5 Now. The Power Slick 2 is pretty much the same as the cup 2, and the Power GP is a slightly stiffer and sticker tire closer the old RS. Definitely looking forward to it. I have the Battlax S22 so this video is greatly appreciated. I need some confirmation that the Power 5 is on the same level as the S22. Michelin says 155°F is optimal operating temps.
I can recommend the GP over the power 5, gets up to temp quicker and grippier which leads to more confidence =quicker. This is on an S1000rr, other bikes may suit different tyres.
I'm surprised Dave is testing the Power 5 and not the Power GP against these other hypersport tyres. Michelin state the Power 5 as a sporty road tyre, whereas their Power GP is described as a high performance road/occasional trackday tyre.....which would therefore suggest it being a more appropriate and fairer comparison for this test.
Having previously favoured Metz and Bridgy's hypersports offerings for many many years, I have recently (about 2 years ago) made the change over to Michy, and I'm soooooo glad I did.
@@Gambo916 yeah well the Power GP would be Better compared to the Battlax RS11 not the S22. So the Power 5 is a fair comparison against the S22. They are the same category. Dave is right on this one 100%. So I don't think the Q3+ is a fair comparison because the Q3/Q3+ is fair against the Power GP, Battlax RS11, and Supercorsa SPv3. While the DOT race class the fair pick would be Q4, Power Cup 2, Battlax R11, and Supercorsa TD
@@DR-hw9jsyou think the s22 will be a better tire than the power gp?
@@sunnycanida9168 if go back you will clearly see that I've stated the Power GP is a Category ahead of the the S22 and Power 5.
Being over a year since my original comment/ reply. I've ridden with both tires to a great degree. The Power GP can Handle the Power and Torque of 600cc Supersport all day! Even on a Panigale V4R at 236 BHP it will still nab pretty much all you can give it. On a Superbike like the V4R it has enough power to break traction at will and with little effort. However the difference being is that it is done very predictably. The way it breaks traction is once it starts spinning if the bike's on the right settings it spins very manageably. Even with the settings on low traction control race mode basically. Still spends in a very predictable manner and you can control it from the throttle with ease. That's more important than wondering if it has enough grip is how does it slip when you break the traction at will. And it recovers smoothly.
So the power 5s are good enough for novice to intermediate track days?
100% yes
I know this video was posted like 3 years ago but I was wondering if these tires would be a good alternative to rain slicks for an amateur racer. I can't find the proper rear size for my fz07 (180/55) so I was wondering if these would be good enough in the wet for amateur light weight twin racing. Thanks!
Best rain tires i have seen for street are the Michelin Pilot 4's.
I've gone through 2 sets of Q3+ (down to the carcass on the the left side of the rear, 3+ inches off the center of the tire. Road not track.... yet) on my 07 SV650S w/gixer front end, wheels and ZX10 shock. So these vs. Q3+?
Power 5 is a harder compound so it should in theory last longer. In the test it seemed to show the least amount of wear at the check in odometer readings we did.
@@catalystreactionsbw harder in the center correct?
@@vannevels6758 Yes correct.
@@catalystreactionsbw Thank you. Happy New Year.
50F being the tempature of the tire? Have a track day coming up using the power 5s trying to find the ideal cold temperature
Start at 28 cold at 7am. Check at 11-12 and you should be 3-5psi higher than cold.
hey dave! does a rounder set of tires with shorter profile like power fives provide less lean angle?
Not less lean angle - rolls over quicker and is easier to transition therefore makes the bike more agile.
@@catalystreactionsbw my question is if a rounder tire(power 5) reaches its lean limit easier than a taller one like supercorsas for example? And if a rounder tire rolls over quick then why most people prefer bigger profiles for track??
@@nikos.kouts3 More room to work. More width of tire makes the bike more usable (friendly) but it slows entry. Depends on your style of riding. Can you control the sharper profile? for Some people it's too fast.
@@SamBassComedy so you agree that sharper tiire is quicker than rounder right? Also my question is if with a rounder tire you ran out of lean angle faster because every time i used rounder tires i was running out of chicken strips faster
@@nikos.kouts3 Not running out, but pushing further.
I have a ninja 1k with road 5's on it and started doing the odd track day last year. I now have a puncture in the rear and the tyres could probably do with replacing anyway.
Would you recommend these as a replacement for general road use with the odd track day thrown in? It is a heavier bike, so the soft carcass might not be ideal? The road 5s did hold up fine for a rookie on track to be fair and I'm a bit of a michelin fan boy for road tyres.
Long term I'd probably want to get an old 600 and put more racing focussed tyres on there. But for now the ninja should be fine for some casual track days.
I would stay with the Road 5';s for consistency and trust. You being content and getting the same response out of the motorcycle when riding is critical. Good point on an older motorcycle for track learning. If you can find an older ZX6 2000-2005 that would be ideal.
I commute no track. But I do ride hard and go very fast… which tires do you recommend me? I was looking at power 5 and rode 5 2014 CBR1000RR SP, i had Diablo súper corsa on rear and they only lasted me 3k miles…
S22 or 23, Rosso IV for what you do
@@catalystreactionsbw thanks so not the power 5 or rode 5 than?
@@catalystreactionsbw I’m not going same brand as oem or anything just want it right I’m in California a buddy of mine runs his CBR1000RR LE on power 5 and loves them
@@topg3200 I've ridden Road 6 at the track to the top of B group and enjoyed them. I have not ridden Power 5 so i have no comment.
so can we say a tire with a soft carcass fits well on a light bike (like a vitpilen 701 for example)?
A soft carcass tire is a good match for a light bike in principle. If you are ADD or ADHD, a firmer carcass would help you feel much more comfortable when riding
@@catalystreactionsbw I have ADHD, why is that?
Just is the better tyre s22 or power 5
My choice, S22
S22 sucks
@@liltommy97 why
S22 power5 ou rosso corsa 2?lequel serait le plus adapté pour 1 conduite quotidienne avec route de campagne.et tenir sous la pluie ?✌️
I like the look of the power 5's but I'm trying to decide if I should get a more touring focused tyre like Dunlop roadsmart 4.
I ride a 2012 cbr1000rr on English roads. I only normally ride in dry conditions and normally ride fairly smoothly and like to carry corner speed without too much hard braking and acceleration.. I want the tyres to work in cold conditions with quick warm up for short journeys. I also ride in hot conditions and like to push on abit sometimes. Can anyone recommend which tyre would work best?
If you enjoy agility in your CBR a more touring focus will slow down turn and and transitions. This seems like an ideal profile for you compared to the Hypersport category where it is a little harder to initiate but then the bikes falls into the turns and offers a lot of side grip for those that want to accelerate hard. As a compromise, I think the Pirelli Angel GT II will be a tyre that you really like.
@@catalystreactionsbw hmm more food for thought... Thanks for your input.
Dave, @5:48 it states fellow Brit....so I'm guessing you are/were originally from the UK (where exactly)? I've often wondered about your accent, as it seems to be a mix of many different types, and doesn't define to one particular nation or country? Hope you don't mind me asking personal questions......if you want to tell me to mind my own soddin' business, I'll completely understand Sir.
Lol..... after traveling the world so much helping people, it has become a bit of a mess or mystery depending on your point of view. I was born in Manchester originally.
@@catalystreactionsbw Many thanks for the kind reply Dave. Manchester boy ehh!! I wouldn't say your accent is a mess....I think it's very intriguing and interesting. Thanks again Doooood.
So power 5s good?
Yes, all of the modern Hypersport tyres are incredible.
Hater's gonna hate.
A stock 16yr old 750 that will do 170mph lol.