Jewish Comedian Explains Difference Between Jews
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Comedian Ari Shaffir, fresh off his latest special 'Jew' joins Andrew Schulz & Flagrant to discuss the differences in Jewish people and their respective histories. 
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Correction: Sephardi Jews absolutely did suffer the holocaust. Greek, Spanish, Italian and Balkan Jews, all of whom are Sephardi, were decimated. Those in North Africa (Morocco, Libya, Tunisia) and the ME were spared due to their location.
Thats not a holocaust only the ashkenazi went through the Jewish holocaust
@@calumcain2355 completely untrue. Wherever the Germans conquered, they brought the Holocaust with them. My old landlord was a Morrocan Jew who was put into a concentration camp by the Nazis.
@@calumcain2355The Sephardim were actually sent to concentration camps. They moved to those areas during the Spanish Inquisition and the Expulsion. They definitely suffered the Holocaust. Ari’s conflating Mizrahi Jews with Sephardi Jews.
Italian, Greek, and Balkan Jews are not Sephardic exclusively. Sephardic is an ancient term for the territory of Hispania(which is Portugal and Spain). Sephardic Jews are from the Iberian peninsula and some parts of North Africa.
Moroccan jews were protected not due to their location, but because they were Moroccan citizens and so were under the protection of the king.
A little odd that Ari has so much of this wrong but here it goes:
1 - sephardic jews are the ones descended from the ones expelled from Spain and Portugal after 1492. Many settled afterwards in France, Italy, northern Africa, southern Balkans, mostly Greece and Turkey. Some made it all the way to Syria, Palestine, Iraq, but many if not most of the jewish people that were east of Turkey before those few sephardics made it there actually descend from jews that had never left that region in the first place. So Iranian jews were mostly non sephardic, most Iraqi jews too, Syrian jews I'd guess less than half will be sephardic.
2 - many sephardic jews had left Turkey/Ottoman Empire during the first decades of the XX century, and there were HUGE sephardic communities especially in France, smaller ones in Italy, Belgium, Nederlands, so take that PLUS the already big sephardic communities in Yugoslavia and Greece and you'll realise that they absoultely were part of the Holocaust. Of course the numbers are not as big as the Ashkenazis because the majority of jews in France would still be of German descent, plus all the ones from Germany and Austria, and over two million from Poland, PLUS the ones living in the occupied USSR.
3 - somebody in the comments mentioned something about citizenship. Some turkish jews that had retained their turkish citizenship instead of becoming french or belgian citizens had an advantage, I guess because Germany respected turkish citizens out of Turkey being an ally of Germany during WWI, I'm not really sure (with "advantage" I mean that some were not killed on arrival to the camps, basically, and a bunch were sent back to Turkey after some time in the camps rather than being straight up shot or walked to death when the russians started approaching).
Well, I think we can all agree that no matter what kind of Jew it is, they are super cool and stuff, because ALL JEWS totally rock! I'm thankful that God made them the Chosen Ones. They do so much for society. We wouldn't have roads or buildings or homes or motor vehicles or really anything that civilizes a society without the Jews. Though I must say whoever came up the bacon-double-cheeseburger was also brilliant beyond measure but it couldn't have been a Jew (or a Muslim) because they forbid themselves from consuming delicious pork products. Very strange and unfortunate!
The Jews of Salonika were murdered and thrown into mass graves. Everything else, spot on. Respect.
@@BeranM 😂😭💀
The physical difference between this comment and well the rest.....
Also 15,000 to 20,000 Jews were forced into internment or labor camps in Libya, Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. About 500 Libyan Jews were killed, and some expelled were later sent to Bergen Belsen concentration camp in Germany.
The oldest synagogue in India was built in my neighbourhood in Kerala, kochi, in 1344 AD. However India has has provided a safe haven for the Jewish people since as far back as 589 BC, after the babylonians drove them out.
And in the 1930s onwards, our Maharajahs took in thousands of European Jewish children who escaped persecution.
My town still has a community of Jewish people who live in harmony after those times. No antisemitism. The Israeli foreign minister even said in 2019, that they had recorded no events of antisemitism in India.
A very overlooked part of history.
Hindus love for circumcised Jewish co** and still call muslim katwa
Israel has great relations with India 🇮🇳🤝🇮🇱
You know it's a BS history when people claim "there was no racism or antisemitism" somewhere. Like, Native Americans lived one with the nature like elves and the land produced abundance in food even during Winter.
The Indian and Israeli friendship is historic. 🇮🇱🤝🇮🇳
he talks so much bs..the muslims in iraq did their own holoc*** farhud
and ashkenazi are more athletic with eastern european viking bodies
Syrian Jew, here. There's one difference between "Shami" Jews and others that you didn't mention. No Hebrew school. My son resents this because all his other Jewish friends go to Hebrew school, and we speak Arabic. Not to mention the fact that we go to separate temples.
Jew is a religion not a race.
exampel Iran jews is Persians not Hebrew. and they is over 50.000 jews in Iran right now.
Hebrew race is Semitic and Palestine is Semitic people. and Palestine is a Semitic land.
the first people to converted to Jediism was black African. AKA the (Black Hebrew Israelites).
dont ues religion to kill and steal.
@kints rapist2 most jews is not Semitic.
the Semitic jews got converted into Arab speaking muslims. during the conquests.
even the north african burbers is Arab speaking muslims. even some africans is Arab speaking muslims.
its like French speaking African. or english speaking Indian.PK.
Israel is a settler colonialism.
@@rashsoftwear8075 Ethnic jews and religious jews. It's shocking how many people don't understand this. Hear it all the time. You say "jews aren't white" and people lose their minds. Ask them, they'll say no.
are syrian jews even sephardic? Im sure some are, but calling all non-ashkenazi sepahrdic is incorrect. Persians are not sephardic
@@mikeySHBK A lot of Syrian Jews are either mizrahi (Jews that never left the area) or Sephardic because the Ottomans opened up areas for Spanish Jews to come after they were expelled from there by the Catholics. The Ottomans’ and the territory they governed had a history of helping relocate persecuted Jews to friendly muslim areas from the parts of Europe they didn’t control, at least until the rise of Zionism and the creation of Israel
There is a bit of a mixup but it's easy to explain: Ashkenazi Jews are from central and eastern Europe, Sephardi Jews are from the Iberian peninsula, Italy, the Balkans and Northern Africa, and Mizrahi Jews are from the Middle East. However, Mizrahim get conflated with Sephardim because they often follow the same customs and are generally closer culturally. Then there are many smaller groups (Circassians, Mountain Jews, Roman Jews etc) but they're a very small percentage. Also, Sephardic Jews were also killed in the Holocaust, many from Greece, Italy, France, Yugoslavia and the Netherlands died in the camps.
Yes, thank you! Mizrahi jews are often bundled with sephardi and for me, a mizrahi, this is sad 😂
According to DNA, ashkenazim and Sephardim are almost indistinguishable which is something that is a hard pill for people to swallow currently. Mizrahim have virtually 100 percent DNA from the Levant.
That said all nationalism sucks. Genocide is awful and the longer that people hold onto capitalism as religion, the harder it’s going to be to move forward
Italians are considered Ashkenazi or Roman Jews, not Sephardic
Jews in Greece, Italy and France are mainly of Sepharadi decent and those countries during WWII collaborated with Nazi Germany and there were deportations of Sepharadi Jews to German concentration camps. So historically speaking, some Sepharadi populations were victims of the Holocaust. As for pre-Holocaust history, Sepharadi Jews faced many pogroms, expulsions and discrimination through different periods in Muslim majority countries. It’s not like they never faced violence and mass murders in history.
while youre not wrong you make it sound as if discrimination was the norm. jews lived far more peacefully under muslim rule than christian rule prior to the seljuk conquering of the levant. the seljuks arrived and had no knowledge or respect for the degree of holiness in the city of jerusalem where as prior to that the muslims had done this. seljuks massacred christians jews and non-conforming muslims, and were retaliated against with the crusades. without any knowledge of the sacredness of the city, the seljuks managed to turn the holy land into a battlefield for the next millenium
Wrong. In Morocco they’ve always been privileged to the extent that the Moroccan king, Mohammed V, protected Moroccan Jews from the Vichy government in France who wanted to deport them to concentration camps in Germany, even though Morocco was under French colonization!!!
Sephardi Jewish in Spain and Portugal suffer the inquisition, many scape to Mexico, and that why many Mexicans are getting the Spanish or Portuguese nationality.
Greece Italy and France are in Europe sepharadic Jews are from north africa they are only sephardics jews now in Europe not back then
@@_youmadbrah if I’m not mistaken France also give the French nationality if you prove that you are decent of a Sephardic Jewish that suffers a persecution in France and move to America (continent).
4:16 Same thing happened to me 😂 I was walking around Amsterdam with my brother (we both look alike and are Jewish) a man at a restaurant starts speaking with us in Italian to get us in the restaurant. We didn’t reply since we don’t speak Italian, man proceeded to say, “oh you don’t speak Italian must be Israeli, Shalom” 😅
It’s weird because southern Italians and ashkenzi Jews were for a long time being confused for each other on genetic tests. There is some connection down the line, either from Roman resettlement or at an earlier time.
@@AlexP-jz9sg I'm half ashkenaz and half sephardic, but even where I live I get confused for being italian on the daily 😂
@@phillindablank that's where your people should have went. You have more of a genuine connection to Italy, than you ever had in Palestine.
I forgot, the antichrist will make his introduction from Jerusalem. So you guys have to stick around for the big Reveal party.
Nevermind 🙄
how does someone look israeli yall are from everywhere
There is no time limit in the definition of colonialism so the British will always be considered colonialists in Australia. And the Palestinians are no exception.
the Arabs conquered Palestine by force in the seventh century and brought a different language, a different culture and a different genetics.
The origin of Arab genetics, Arab culture, the Arabic language and the religion of Islam is in the Arabian Peninsula, therefore the Palestinians are not indigenous by definition.
On the other hand, the Jews are considered native to the Levant (Palestine) according to the definition because the Hebrew language, the Jewish religion, and the genetic origin of 40% Jews in Israel originated in the Levant (Palestine).
They did not come from outside, they were created in the Levant (Palestine). Hebrew is the only Canaanite language that survived.
Today most of the Jews in Israel are not Europeans.
Although historically European Jews founded Israel and were the majority in its early days.
In addition, Jews lived in Palestine as a minority but continuously before the Arabs before Islam and Christianity.
If the arabs didnt start the 1948 war there were no refugee in both side.!!
Its biased to blame only israel for the refugee crises.
The arabs start the 1948 war...! expelling 100% of the indigenous jewish community of Bethlehem and Jericho until today they dont permit the non european Jewish community to return to Bethlehem and Jericho..!!..!!!!...
Lol funny convo & love the banter like always. Many Sephardim did perish in the Holocaust in lands that were occupied by Hitler that had historic Sephardic communities like the Balkans as Hitlers final solution was to murder all Jews. And for those wondering on the wider scope of things, the only difference between different Jewish groups is where they lived in Diaspora/where they were scattered to by the Different Empires of the past most notably Rome & Babylonians. Over the millennia different Jewish “Subcultures” developed in those lands
Jewish fiath was founded in babylon iraq
@@CastellazziTal Yeah, it originated in Ur.
I think the “final solution” was fabricated….it doesn’t line up with events like the Haavara Transfer Agreement of 1933. The whole thing doesn’t make sense….
Sepharadics refer specifically to jews that left Andalusia in 1492 after the christians took it and went to North africa and the middle east. Of course they melted with local jews that were already living there
yes this clip is such a low conversation ..trying to be funny too hard without making any sense
ofc ari survived 911..he went dancing
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"You take away their ability to exist if you take away their ability to complain"
Got a good belly laugh out of that one
There is no time limit in the definition of colonialism so the British will always be considered colonialists in Australia. And the Palestinians are no exception.
the Arabs conquered Palestine by force in the seventh century and brought a different language, a different culture and a different genetics.
The origin of Arab genetics, Arab culture, the Arabic language and the religion of Islam is in the Arabian Peninsula, therefore the Palestinians are not indigenous by definition.
On the other hand, the Jews are considered native to the Levant (Palestine) according to the definition because the Hebrew language, the Jewish religion, and the genetic origin of 40% Jews in Israel originated in the Levant (Palestine).
They did not come from outside, they were created in the Levant (Palestine). Hebrew is the only Canaanite language that survived.
Today most of the Jews in Israel are not Europeans.
Although historically European Jews founded Israel and were the majority in its early days.
In addition, Jews lived in Palestine as a minority but continuously before the Arabs before Islam and Christianity.
If the arabs didnt start the 1948 war there were no refugee in both side.!!
Its biased to blame only israel for the refugee crises.
The arabs start the 1948 war...! expelling 100% of the indigenous jewish community of Bethlehem and Jericho until today they dont permit the non european Jewish community to return to Bethlehem and Jericho..!!..!!!!...
@@yuval1716 The beef gotta get squashed man. We should all find a way to squash the beef.
🤣🤣🤣lie isva bread
In fact, if you listen to the Moroccan Jews or those who lived with the Arabs, you will find them saying that the Jews of Europe always try to make the history and past of the Jews a single experience, while this is not true. In Iraq, for example, there were Jewish ministers, and in Egypt too they had a high regard for trade, cinema and other things, but European Jews wanted to make the Holocaust as if it happened to all Jews, while this is not true at all. I even remember one of the Moroccan Jews when he talked about the experience of his parents when they came to Israel, he said that the white Jews used to treat the Jews of East and North Africa as if they were Arab Muslims! They mistreated them severely and tried to erase their Arabic language, their culture, and everything related to their identity as Jews in the Arab region.Some of them even changed their names and the names of their fathers from their original Arabic names to Hebrew names!
Many Sephardic Jews were caught by the Holocaust. Italy. Greece. The Balkans. And more
Morrocains are not arab but berber people
As Mizrahi Jews, we suffered from pogroms from the Russians in West and Central Asia and from the Arabs and Ottomans in the Middle East, and the effects of the holocaust affected all Jews around the world as one people with one identity.
So yes we are entitled to claim the holocaust as our own tragedy.
For the record, my grandparents were in Iraq (Bagdad) and had to flee for their lives to Israel due to the persecution they were facing. This was in 1949. They had family members made to 'disappear' and another who was hanged in the street from a lamp post. My great grandparents could never escape so my grandma never saw them again after she left Iraq at age 14. They didn't experience the holocaust first hand in Iraq, though had Hitler not been stopped, you can be sure they'd have been killed too for their beliefs. The antisemitism born of the holocaust continues to percolate in society so in that regard they were effected but not directly.
Also, technically those Jews from middle east are termed 'Mizrahi' which means 'from the east' while those from Spain and further south are Sephardic.
Truth. I'm half Ashkenazi from Berlin and half Sephardic from Baghdad. One side escaped before the camps in 1939 after kristalnacht. The rest of the family perished. And for my other side in Baghdad it was time to go when the public hangings started. They had to leave everything behind, only the clothes on their back. Many Arab countries started tossing their Jews after 1948. Hundreds of thousands of refugees.
Anti semitism wasn’t birthed from the Holocaust.. pretty sure there needs to be a considerable level of anti Jewish sentiment if that kind of thing happens (you’re not the only semites so I’ve never used the term anti Semitic, also the definition is so loose it’s essentially a silencing tool for anyone that questions Zionist atrocities).
@@danijudy92 yes they only strted to do this after isreal was form a natural reaction.
@@kingmosesix432 I understand that it was a reaction, but how is it natural?
@@danijudy92 The vast majority of people throughout history are poor and uneducated. Although education is reaching farther today, poverty is still ongoing. What is a common trait poverty stricken people have? They want to point fingers at other people. Right before WW1, Zionists backed by the leadership of the British government agreed that the Jews needed a state to live in. Zionists started buying land in Palestine. The Ottoman empire was collapsing and it was a golden opportunity. The Ottoman empire owned the majority of Palestine, being the controlling state. The Palestinians we're not consulted at all during this time. Up until 1948, a Lebanese dude and his family had great ties with the Ottomans, and he had a bunch of land in Palestine. 25% of Zionist property came from this man alone during this period. The land was not empty at all. Many plots consisted of swathes of villages, and they we're now controlled by the Zionists. The Zionists and the Ottomans tried to kick people out and then the British helped them too. Where did the anti jewish sentiment come from? Well, people are moving in and kicking people out claiming to be the new landlord created commotion especially having lived in a place for hundreds of years. The neighbouring countries are getting Palestinian refugees that are hating on jews and all of a sudden jews are unliked in the middle east. Remember, 90% of people are sheeple. I'm a Lebanese/arab muslim and I'm open to all people, and my openness is due part to the education and being introduced to all kinds of people throughout my life. I hope this answers your question on why the anti jewish sentiment was natural.
That’s such a stupid discussion. Jews were attacked almost everywhere they were, for example the Farhud in Iraq. The only reason Sepharadi jews were saved from the Holocaust is because Hitler didn’t get to them yet but they suffered from antisemitism as well. All jews are like brothers and sisters.
yeah these wankers dont read much ani
You are totally right, it's very stupid. Sephardim weren't even saved from the Holocaust. Sephardim (as well as Italkim and Romaniotes) from Greece to the Netherlands (and maybe as far north as Norway, as the first Jewish community there was Sephardic) suffered the same fate as Ashkenazim.
Yup you're right, this conversation was so wrong historically. Tens of thousands of Jews from the Baltic states were murdered by the Germans and their accomplices. Plus, many Sephardic Jews moved across Europe after the 1492 Jewish expulsion from Spain.
About 15,000 to 20,000 Jews were forced into internment or labor camps in Libya, Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. About 500 Libyan Jews were killed, and some expelled were later sent to Bergen Belsen concentration camp in Germany.
Well the Sephardic Jews had it hard in the Iberian peninsula during the Spanish reconquista . Many Jews were forcibly converted to catholicism or kicked out of their lands .
Also many Arab Jews were expelled during and before ww2, and large parts of the Arab world sided with Nazi germany in ww2. I’m Yemeni Jew my grandfather came to Israel in 43’ during the holocaust because of Yemeni oppression and violence, Arab Jews were persecuted way before Israeli independence
As a Nigerian whose daughter is half Ashkenazi, this was both hilarious and, at times, uncomfortable.
Comedy is supposed to be uncomfortable
Make jokes on Islam and Muslims.. quran and Sharia, how they massacred millions of people of all religions. Will comics make fun of true facts in Islam?
@@gnomuka I think comedy is just "supposed" to be funny bud
I hear black Jews get it the worst tho
@@mirodski1662 comedy is not supposed to be, it just is
Token black guy has a goofy take. African immigrants definitely dont get to complain about African American slavery. They have no ties to it. Their families didn't suffer through jim crow and segregation, so their culture, language, names, and family structure is still intact.
They get to complain about colonialism instead.
@@jujutrini8412 most definitely
Not to mention the fact that it was black Africans who enslaved and sold off their own people to begin with.
Even better: many Africans got pretty rich from slave trade, so if someone is coming from a high status African family, there are some chances that the ancestors were hunting or selling thousands of slaves
You don t get to complain about anything
Both of you
You live in the present world
You did not suffer any of those things
Goes to show the power of comedy lmaoo this exact conversation would get most people shut out of everything
Oddly The most informative conversation on this topic and it was all done in a light hearted effort to be funny.
Mainstream Media can shove it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Longform + Intelligent Comedians reign supreme
There is no time limit in the definition of colonialism so the British will always be considered colonialists in Australia. And the Palestinians are no exception.
the Arabs conquered Palestine by force in the seventh century and brought a different language, a different culture and a different genetics.
The origin of Arab genetics, Arab culture, the Arabic language and the religion of Islam is in the Arabian Peninsula, therefore the Palestinians are not indigenous by definition.
On the other hand, the Jews are considered native to the Levant (Palestine) according to the definition because the Hebrew language, the Jewish religion, and the genetic origin of 40% Jews in Israel originated in the Levant (Palestine).
They did not come from outside, they were created in the Levant (Palestine). Hebrew is the only Canaanite language that survived.
Today most of the Jews in Israel are not Europeans.
Although historically European Jews founded Israel and were the majority in its early days.
In addition, Jews lived in Palestine as a minority but continuously before the Arabs before Islam and Christianity.
If the arabs didnt start the 1948 war there were no refugee in both side.!!
Its biased to blame only israel for the refugee crises.
The arabs start the 1948 war...! expelling 100% of the indigenous jewish community of Bethlehem and Jericho until today they dont permit the non european Jewish community to return to Bethlehem and Jericho..!!..!!!!
@Yuval- cloud cockoo land..Wow..So the Arabs started the 1948 War.. 😂
I'm really sure Ben Gurion (No# 1 IPM) would have plenty to say about that crazy deluded notion... with his well documented & accepted Zionist 'land grab' & ethnic cleansing (Transfer) policies..
enacted by his convicted murderous terrorist thugs Shamir (No #7 IPM) & Begin (No #6 IPM) in the Irgun - Lehi brigades & Rabin (No #5 IPM) in the Palmach with Sharon (No #11 IPM) in the Haganah...all complicit in carrying out Ben Gurions Plan D (Plan Dalot- Transfer/ ethnic cleansing of the local ethnic Palestinian people)....
Thessaloniki Jews were mostly Sefardic and they were killed in WW2 as well as other Jews in Balkans who originated from Iberian Sephardic Jews.
In Morocco Jews have always been privileged to the extent that the Moroccan king, Mohammed V, protected Moroccan Jews from the Vichy government in France who wanted to deport them to concentration camps in Germany, even though Morocco was under French colonization!!!
And he told them i don't have jews i only have moroccans ,wich means that he tough of them as a full moroccans ,and judaìsm is still particed in morocco ,thez have their own court.and all their saints are will guarded.
This is a beautiful conversation about our differences without hate! Bravo!!!
Yea would be nice if they mentioned the genocide occurring in Palestine 🥰
Or a lost tribe 🤷🏿♂️
@@fullsend8738The genocide the Muslim Arabs and Turks committed against indigenous Samaritans that reduced their population from a million to a couple hundred?
@@verysmoky3605 when was this? Cite sources
@@realdeal8303 If you think the grass is greener on the other side let me tell you you’re absolutely wrong. You’ll never ever be Jewish nor Hebrew, the only Jew in Christianity is Yeshua. Starting loving your blackness instead of claiming Native American or Jewish heritage you never had.
Good to seeing you guys having this conversation. Although a lot of false "information" here. The leader of the Palestinians (The Grand Mufti) toured a concentration camp and offered the Jews of the Middle East to Hitler and Eichmann. Jews in Iraq suffered the Farhood and between 1945 -1948 there were massacres of Jews in Aden (Yemen), Tripoli (Lebanon) and Aleppom(Syria) to name a few. Jews suffered centuries of discrimination in the Arab World. The fact that it didn't culminate in the Holocaust marks a difference is scale but not in discrimination. However, today Sephardim, Ashkenazim, Bene Israel and Mizrahim are all brothers and sisters in Israel.
Yes I agree, this conversation was so wrong historically. Tens of thousands of Jews from the Baltic states were murdered by the Germans and their accomplices. Plus, many Sephardic Jews moved across Europe after the 1492 Jewish expulsion from Spain.
About 15,000 to 20,000 Jews were forced into internment or labor camps in Libya, Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. About 500 Libyan Jews were killed, and some expelled were later sent to Bergen Belsen concentration camp in Germany.
cry me a river.
The two Jewish men were not very well informed. There were concentration camps in Tunisia and Libya during WWII and Jews in the Middle East/North Africa faced consistent persecution and pogroms throughout their time living under Arab/Islamic rule, and were eventually expelled. Moroccan Jews did have more stability than other countries in the region, but they were also subjected to persecution. Also not all MENA Jews are Sephardic, many of them are Mizrahi or Musta-Arabi and do not descend from Jews who fled the Spanish inquisitions, these Jews were the ones who have remained in the region since forever.
I am Moroccan and we still have Jews living in Morocco . Morocco was under french protectorate and the french demanded to our king of the time to hand the Jews and he refused for they were his subjects and as Moroccan as their Muslim compatriots also from what I heard from the old folks the Jews and Muslims were on good neighborly terms .
“Throughout their time”. That’s overstating your point. You’re talking about a period of over 1400 years
No one cares! But I do!
@@robinhood2550 you'd be suprosed that are brain doesn't always work that way
It's a comedy podcast. Ari is a stand-up comedian, not a historian.
Aakash always reminds me of that annoying friend you keep around because they've just always been there.
L
This is a whole podcast of annoying friends you keep around cause they've always been there
@@nintendoROX121 nah mark is pretty cool, the rest of them are annoying
@@r.c.7779 the black dude or the one on the corner that doesn't say much?
@@nintendoROX121 white one with curly hair
Of top, I'm speaking as a Christian, that being said gentlemen...THIS is what will save the world, and not in some deep metaphysical or physiological fashion.
Discourse, discussion and debate....comedy being tragedy and vice versa, our shared experiences when coupled with a true sympathetic heart will bring light to all situations..no matter the size.
#PMA #lovepeopleloveGod
Imagine being this much of a cuck about jews, read the talmuds passages on Christ and non jews
i always wondered who is the chief between ashkenazi, sephardi and they forget the mizrahi which no one talks about...i think the mizrahi are the secret ancient OGs but idk
Are there any jews out there who can keep drawing direct family line all the way to David? They're not accepting Jesus as Messiah, so they're still waiting David's direct descendant to come to become Messiah. I'm curious if there's still like 'royal jew family' out there who have clear family tree all the way to the OG.. Or all jews today claims they're desendants of King David?
I know you guys are comedians and that all this is ment to be funny, as a Mizrahi (north african) Israeli Jew I love the jokes and talk but I just want to give a little background info for you guys, it's true that mideas Jews didnt go through the holocaust the way you think about it as taught in American schools (sadly Israelis too) there were no train carts to concentration camps (for the most part) or any such things, but the Jews there did live under Nazi occupation (like my grandparents) and while it's true that there was no mass extermination there it's due, to the most part, the arab/north african countries didnt actually have formal registries of who lives where and what religion they are like in Europe, it was a much more tribal and regional thing in that part of the world, something that makes orgnized transport and concentration logistically impossible and unpractical as German hold over north africa was never as secure as it was in central Europe, but with all that said Mizrahi Jews did not only live under Nazi occupation for the duration of the war there were also many instances of the local population pogroming them during the war usually with the arrival of the Germans in town as a token of loyalty to the German ideology, and sometimes as an expression of feeling held back for centuries, the most obvious example is the "Farhud" which was basically a small scale holocaust that took place in Iraq over half a year in 1941 in which Jews were massacred in mass , their property taken, they were concentrated and imprisoned for months without food or water, so while it's true mideas Jews did not go through the European model of holocaust we weren't having fun chilling with the muslims, trust me, and yes we can talk about it. love you guys
My main man ashkkas hit him with the Palestinian fact
Its not a fact. Palestinians are bunch of Arabs who migrated to that land at the same time the jews migrated and created a false refugee crisis. Never in any point of time did Palestinian kingdom exist. There was only a British mandate for Palestine and the word itself is European and has no record in any Arab or Turkish history.
@@trendzservices9000 Arabs😂😂 bro it was Romans who gave this land name Palestine, not the Muslim,
Since Islam is Abrahamic religion and Arabs are from Abraham too Muslim claims it,
So saying bunch of Arabs migrated is ridiculous
@@trendzservices9000 ture bro
@@selangor-irish4470 Yes, the Romans renamed it Palestine after they slaughtered a million in AD 70. It was called Judea, whose people are the Jews, from the tribe of Judah...
But there has never been a Palestine. And the Palestinians did migrate there.
@@trendzservices9000 lolll yeah mate there have never been Arabic people living in Gaza and Palestine. And there was definitely loads of Eastern European Jews there. Everyone with anything faintly resembling a moral compass despises Israel anyway.
As a Sephardic Jew whose family went to France from Morocco pretending to be italian to escape the inquisition and the churches war on Jews.... only to go to Ireland and Scotland and then Canada for a while then the US. I'm deeply considering going back to Canada and eventually Morocco and Spain.
Andrew shulz is amazing. He keeps the flow going perfectly lol 😆 “keep going” knowing ari is gonna talk and it’s gonna be a “hit” in the Jewish community lol
There is no time limit in the definition of colonialism so the British will always be considered colonialists in Australia. And the Palestinians are no exception.
the Arabs conquered Palestine by force in the seventh century and brought a different language, a different culture and a different genetics.
The origin of Arab genetics, Arab culture, the Arabic language and the religion of Islam is in the Arabian Peninsula, therefore the Palestinians are not indigenous by definition.
On the other hand, the Jews are considered native to the Levant (Palestine) according to the definition because the Hebrew language, the Jewish religion, and the genetic origin of 40% Jews in Israel originated in the Levant (Palestine).
They did not come from outside, they were created in the Levant (Palestine). Hebrew is the only Canaanite language that survived.
Today most of the Jews in Israel are not Europeans.
Although historically European Jews founded Israel and were the majority in its early days.
In addition, Jews lived in Palestine as a minority but continuously before the Arabs before Islam and Christianity.
If the arabs didnt start the 1948 war there were no refugee in both side.!!
The arabs start the 1948 war...! expelling 100% of the indigenous jewish community of Bethlehem and Jericho until today they dont permit the non european Jewish community to return to Bethlehem and Jericho..!!..!!!!
Keep in mind that a lot of Sephardim moved around Europe after 1492. The only publicly available Portuguese synagogue is in Amstredam and then they moved to Brazil and then started the first Jewish synnogogue in Manhattan
To answer Shulz question @2:14- depends. Just like if you have two siblings, one that loves you understands you good and bad and you always got along. And the other who thinks they’re better then you and looks to rat you out and gaslight you seemingly at every turn but is still your sibling. Then one day you go to court for some reason and the defense asks which of your siblings should be your character witness. Which will be your selection to speak on your behalf? Sibling A or B. That’s the simple answer, Fba’s know the tethers. So does Shulz.
Akaash and his ignored "Sheikh" joke at 2:50 haha
He's not funny
He should talk more about shudras, Most Americans don't know about India racism and abuse of minority castes
@@danielx8 WTF are u talking about? Ignorent fool, terz no such racism, India has thousands of languages and those people divided into different clans, tribes, and class, every society has class differences be it India or west, during colonial times theses Tribes, clans and classes were divided into caste (a Latin word) by British. Which resulted into caste disaster. Fckin rice bag....
@@danielx8 shudras are the majority
@@satanshameer690 but mistreated, I don't know what is the perfect term to describe their plight
3:56 andrew cannot believe it got utter silent when he raised his voice
They should have had Ye on the panel to discuss this.
In Bosnia we have both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews , they were wiped out during WW2 , we never recovered after that loss
That must be awful man....
😂😂Only comedians can have a REAL conversation about this stuff!! 😂😂
Thank you Ye for inspiring this conversation.
Ari & Ye could team up! God has a sense of humor.
Jews from Tunisia can complain about the holocaust, because the Nazis managed to get there before the end of the war, (but you know the riots and violence of the Muslims who ruled there were no picnic either)
This conversation is ridiculous. I am Jewish, from Morocco & Romania. Both sides of my family had experienced hard times, it’s not a competition of who had it worse. The disrespect…
Iranian Jews are not Sephardic; they are Mizrahi Jews.
Also, there was an attempt by the Hamdani Jews to get independence. However, they lost the war to Karim Khan Zand. Their last stand was in a castle in the city of Malayer.
From 1890 to 1892, Jews and the crypt Muslims(Jews that converted to Shia) in the Khorasan and Hamadan states were targeted and made to wear rags and red armbands to distinguish them from the Muslim population. The only reason that some survived the killing was that the Jewish community intervened and paid Naser din, Shah of Qajar, to stop the massacre.
SHMENDRIKS!! Mizrahi Jews (is more specific describing Jews of the Middle-East....who didn't go so far from the conflicts in ancient Israel) experienced plenty of hell from Arabs over the centuries including pogroms in Palestine in the early part of the 20th century.
Why haven't a number of Podcasters invited Black jews, white jews and the filmmaker of From Hebrews To Negroes?
I need to see those groups in the same room having a discussion.
Ayooo your talking about my community. Syrian Jewish community live in Brooklyn and go to Deal NJ for the summer. That’s awesome that you mentioned us.😂
I havent seen Akash since before he was married. He looks and acts like a virgn still.
What is it with people on these shows sometimes, who can't seem to realize that talking all at the same time at the top of their lungs is okay for a fucking tavern, but really makes the overall experience of trying to listen to a conversation like this from a video at one's home completely insufferable?
Dude it’s the worst
@@HouseMusicFan919 takes three listens to understand most of it
and an incipient headache
I wonder what keywords Andrew thought to use when creating this title
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@Catherine Zetack LMAO!
No.
@Catherine Zetack Or what? You going to send your sky daddy after me?
That's Sowell would something to say about all of this.
The food of Israel is Sephardic, the pronunciation of Hebrew in Israel is Sephardic, and the serious Jewish scholarship of the last thousand years is Sephardic. How do Sephardic Jews in Israel differ in appearance from native Palestinians? They don't.
no! the food is 100% palestinian but nice try tho
There is no such thing as a native Palestinian. It’s like pointing to second generation immigrant in America and calling him Native American
@@alexv417 literally Palestinians and Sephardic Jews are genetically identical, both lived in peace until the Ashkenazis came in and just ruined the whole party otherwise we all lived in peace by the Mediterranean. That’s why there’s differences because the Ashkenazi culture is literally the most detached from the Middle East.
@@pokegan52that’s just not true most Sephardim came in the 40s after being expelled from Arab countries and they didn’t get along
@@pokegan52 The British screwed it up; as was their custom.
Sephardic Jews = Hispanic Jews, "Sefarad" literally means Spain in Hebrew.
At some point in history Sephardic Jews represented a vast majority of the world Jewry, in both numbers and wealth, until they were forcibly converted to Christianity around 1391... how is that not a Holocaust??
Doesn’t Sefarad also mean set apart?
@@insearchofYAH no
@@liap4009 my bad I have mixed up my terms. In Spanish “separado” Is separated which bares a huge resemblance to the word sepharad/sefarad.
separate (adj.)
"detached, kept apart, divided from the rest," c. 1600, from separate (v.) or from Latin separatus. Separate also was used as a past-participle adjective in Middle English, "cut off from the main body," also, of a spouse, "estranged." The meaning "individual, particular" is from 1670s, on the notion of "withdrawn or divided from something else," hence "peculiar to one but not others."
You compare being killed in mass numbers with being forced to convert to another religion?!
And you compare what happened in the middle ages to something that took place in the modern times?!
Cause that means arabs commited over 10 holocaust
You think they are the only tribe that came from the middle east?!
They colonized middle east and north africa and forcifully converted natives to islam
Lmao converting to another religion is not a holocaust.
This conversation is so lovely!!! And just funny 😂😂
Funny convo :) My Jewish Algerian grandfather bombed the Nazis so there was some help from our own
Sephardic Jews in the península ibérica suffer the persecution of the inquisition most of this Jews scape to Latin America, that why now many Mexicans could apply to a Spanish or Portuguese nationality.
Wait til they find out Sephardic Jews are from the iberian peninsula, and mizrahi are from the middle east
Sephardic Jews were persecuted before the Spanish Inquisition and after. They were also forced to covert or get expelled from Spain or even murdered. So we Sephardi’s have had our struggles like Ashkenazi Jews.
Mizrahi Jews are probably the closest regarding the jewish semitic heritage. Ashkenazi jews had a difficult period accepting them into Israel during the first decades of the state.
Pleas! Pleas! Kanye and Ari together ! Simple recipe for million$ of views and great entertainment!
It made me laugh because no one was being mean spirited - just laughed my about history and how far we all have come.
It's just that most of what they said was pretty wrong historically..
I always quietly chuckle when I see the last 4 letters in Ashkenazi.
Akaash really hit it there 1:44
"These unchosen little losers" 😂
So like...my grandfather is half Ashkenazi and half Sephardi obviously making me both so it's extra weird watching two sides of the same coin arguing about who is better.
In fact, some of the Sephardic Jews experienced persecution during the Holocaust (although not as much as the Jews in Europe, of course). For example, Algerian Jews lost their citizenship under the Vichy regime and could not enter higher education and own realestate, Jews in Morocco were not allowed to live outside a certain restricted area (Mellah), etc. In Tunisia the situation was perhaps the most difficult, when in 1942 the local Jews were forced to wear a yellow patch, their property was confiscated and thousands of them were sent to labor camps.
All jokes aside, I love Sephardim. One nation one heart
You have incredible patience
What about Ethiopian Jews?
@@GoblinGuard they’re my brothers too. One nation one heart.
As a Balkan Sephardic Jew I love this discussion. In Solidarity with people of all faiths especially our fellow Jews from Israel 🇮🇱 and across the globe. AM YISRAEL CHAI 🔱
Iranian Jews are not Sephardim, they are Mizrahim. Big difference.
Francis nganue(UFC camp) talks about being a slave in the lithium mines in Africa and having to escape multiple times.
These guys are so ignorant of history, painful to listen to
YES.
I will start:
Farhud.
Andrew like Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle are amazing. What gift to us in this crazy cancel culture world.
akaash wanted to feel connected lol
I'm 40% Sephardic and 60% Sephardic
also there were Sephardic jews did go through the Holocaust, just not that many of them. I know they did because I am 40% Sephardic and 60% Ashkenazi
Sephardic is Latin and northern middle eastern jew, Ashkenazi is middle and northern Europe and Mezhari are middle eastern and north African
Sephardic is not latin neither are they Hispanic don't appropriate white heritage they simply lived in iberia they're not iberian still just Jews
To be honest that's a stupid way to take it. If I was Sephardic Jews why can't I complaint about what my Akzhenazi Jews suffered from. They are the same people as me. If I was in Germany I would suffered the same thing from Hitler because I'm Jew. It's not like he's just targeting Akzhenazi Jews. ALL OF US! if my brother get murdered why can't I seek justice for my fallen brother?? Because I'm not the one who got killed? Lol.
Ari is hilarious
I wonder who owns this production company?
Fun fact Eugene Levy is half Saphardic and Half Ashkenazi which is apparently rare
incredible discussion!
my mother recently took the dna test and come to find out her real father was pure Israeli. All my friends are Jewish as well, so maybe I always knew deep inside? Problem with me is I don’t believe in any of the current “faiths”, but I’m certainly not an atheist either.
I guess you could say I’m just confused at this point! lol
Wait she didn’t know she had a diff father??? Man that’s crazy I need to know your story now
You don't need a specific religion to nurture your spiritual relationship with God... belief and good behaviour, morals are enough.
If you want to educate yourself about how others have developed their religious reflection and how they worship, you can read about it.
That's what I do by the way, I follow a religion (islam) but I also see how other people from other Faiths are worshipping, living and seeking God.
God bless you. 🙏
There is no "pure Israeli" because you can't be a "pure child murdering scumbag". What you can be is Jewish, Iraqi jew, Yemeni Jew, Sephardic Jew and the European Jew
I think you're confused. No DNA test wl tell you you're "Israeli". It would say Ashkenazi Jew or another one of the Jewish subsets. Also the Jewish religion is only one aspect of Jewish identity. There are many Jewish atheists for example.
Judaism is more than a religion. A Jew can be a total non-believer but still a Jew. No test of faith. Jews are a people. You can become a Jew if you're not born one but once you're in, you're in.
You guys gotta stop talking over each other. It’s hard to listen to
7:34
It's called Deal? Hold on, it's called DEAL? THERE IS NO WAY omg i lost it :D
Sephardis didn't just run South, lots of them went to Bosnia/Herzegovina, Greece, France, Italy, England, Turkey & the Netherlands after the Spanish Edict of Expulsion...of course many of them bit the bullet and became Conversos who stayed in Spain & Portugal playing the role of a Catholic for the sake of survival.
It was funny till akaash thought he had to be heard.
Got kicked out? I’m always hearing that they got kicked out of so many countries. Why is that?
‘Cos they’re annoying af
Subversion
Those are not Sephardim Jews, the Jews from the Middle East are Mizrahi Jews those are the majority in Israel not Sephardim
in israel Sephardim and mizrahim are seen as one group a moroccan Sephardi and an iraqi mizrahi are the same in israel
Sefardic jews of uzbekistan and azerbaijan fought in Red Russian Army against the germans and saved alot of Ashkenazi jews. They gave them home, food and shelter.
The Muslims protected their people!
What a joke lol
Not a joke. Just a fact
@@abdiali4631 Yeah. Now look how much that's changed.
@@abdiali4631 farhud, khaybar, endless pogroms, jizia…. Ya you guys “take care” of Jews alright
This is hilarious... and I learned something
How come they got kicked out of so many countries?
BTW, Africans in Africa were also severely effected by slavery in the Americas. Having their family members suddenly taken away, never to return, left those families, cultures and communities devastated and traumatized for generations.
Why are they going on about "Sephardic" Jews? Isn't Mizrahi Jews they mean?
Mizrahis aka Eastern Jews would be from Iraq, Yemen, India and Central Asia
@@shivamrai2886 Yeah, that is my point. And North Africa. Moroccan Jews are distinct from Iberian Jews (ie Sephardic Jews) but they have adopted some Sephardic practices.
Mizrahi is Asian Jews not african
@@_youmadbrah like typical Euros
seems like a trend to fail to mention the mizrahi
Does anyone else feel like Patrice Oneal should be in this convo?
Most of the people they’re talking about are Mizrahi Jews (ie Middle Eastern or Arabic speaking Jews), not Sephardi (ie originating from Iberia)
West Bank is amazing! 😂
Thank you for knowing history and stating that the Islamic Empire encompassed 70% of Jewish population and were protected under their jurisdiction.
He is a muslim apologist and doesn t know shit about history
You were just as worse,even more so than us europeans with the jews
You even stole stuff from the torah from them
And its interesting how the european jews managed to keep their culture alive while the arab jews were forcefully assimilated by the arabs
The way you colonized the native populations of the middle east
Not really
About 15,000 to 20,000 Jews were forced into internment or labor camps in Libya, Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. About 500 Libyan Jews were killed, and some expelled were later sent to Bergen Belsen concentration camp in Germany.
Muslims have massacred Jews for ages, and to this day there are hardly any Jews left in Muslim countries. And Christians too are declining.
there are more than just these two categories. the mizrahim are jews that were always in the east, and never passed through the western european admixture in spain/portugal/italy nor the eastern european admixture in germanic/slavic lands. instead, they were in syria, iran, egypt, afghanistan etc. there are also the magrebhim, most of which became sephardized which certainly complicates matters, but especially the tunisian jews and even more especially the tunisian jews of the island djerba remained very unique and have been in north africa since centuries BC.
Balkan/Greek Jews, and Dutch Jews were largely Sephardic I heard and those groups did go through persecution during World War II.
I think this podcasts needs about 4-5 more unfunny people on couches.
Mexican jew lmao fukin killed it
Louis CK? 🤣
A lot of people have no idea they have Sephardim ancestry.
Mexico’s next president could be a Jewish woman
The adl got ahold of the comment section seemingly
whys aziz ansari always riled up
Why is Mark on the couch . So much better the old way. Alex is dope in the background
who is mark
Schulz and guest is the right combo. The show can do without the 57 other guys.