Ari Shaffir and Howie Mandel Disagree About Current Antisemitism
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Ari Shaffir doesn't think antisemitism is as prevalent as Howie Mandel does and they have a discussion about the topic.
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Opposing Likud/Revisionism isn't antisemitic, unless you consider Einstein antisemitic. Likud's bloody 100 year history ...
In 1923, 100 years ago, Ze'ev Jabotinsky wrote, The Iron Wall, and a follow up, The Ethics of The Iron Wall (sooo racist towards Africans), in which he fully acknowledged that post Balfour Zionsim was colonialism, and that, based on the entirety of history, the native Palestinian population would resist being colonized until the bitter end. He directly compared it to the colonization of North America. He promoted doing it anyway, claiming Zionist colonialism was a "just" colonialism (he also thought North American colonialists were good guys, so not a great judge of morality), not caring what that meant for the native population.
Ze'ev is important, because his Betar militant youth group helped found the Irgun terrorist group, along with other supporters of his, and the splinter Lehi terrorist group. The Irgun bombed numerous Palestinian markets and other public places, murdering many Palestinian civilians, including children, even including Palestinian Jews (who didn't support colonialist Zionsim).
The Irgun are important, because they ended up being led by future Likud PM, Menachem Begin, who bombed the King David Hotel. The King David Hotel was bombed because the British had raided the Jewish Agency and seized numerous documents that may have shown that the terrorists were working with the JA and Haganah (JA liked to pretend that they didn't support the terrorism). The British then stored those documents at their base, in the hotel. That the Irgun terrorists responded to a JA raid, itself seems to prove the connection. That the thousands of Irgun (and Lehi) terrorists were also quickly merged into the new nation's military (IDF) and intelligence (Mossad) agencies, and are still celebrated as "heroes" by Israelis, to this day, also seems to support total collaboration between the groups.
That other terrorist group mentioned, Lehi (also known as the Stern Gang), was considered even more extreme. They even tried to ally with the Nazis, against the British. Lehi ended up being led by Yitzhak Shamir, future Mossad agent, and another future Likud PM. They assassinated Lord Moyne, and others.
The two terrorist groups also operated outside of Palestine. The Irgun bombed the British Embassy at Porta Pia, in Rome. The Lehi bombed the British Colonial Club, in London. A timer failed in another bombing attempt, at the Colonial Office, in Whitehall. Two female Lehi operatives were arrested crossing from Belgium to France, with the ingredients for letter bombs. 21 letter bombs were found to be have sent, and were intercepted. They mined the Cairo-Haifa train, in Egypt, twice, killing dozens of civilians, as well as British soldiers.
In 1945, there was a major land and peoples survey done in Palestine. It showed that the Zionists only owned about 5% of the total land, 20% of the arable land, and owned a majority in zero districts. The partition was not only going to be forced on the native Palestinian majority, but Jews were still going to be a minority, in the part allocated to them. The only possible way to even become a "Jewish state" was going to require getting rid of the actual majority (at least enough so that there'd be a solid Jewish majority, so they could fake being democratic).
This is also shown by the 1948, post Nakba, population of Israel. If there was 716,700 Jews, 156,000+ non-Jews, and approximately 700k non-Jews ethnically cleansed, that means the Jewish population, in the Zionist portion of partition, was originally over 100,000 less than the non-Jewish population. To believe that there was never any intent, by Zionists, to ethnically cleanse away the Palestinian majority would require believing that they never intended to create a "Jewish state". It's a nonsensical notion.
Begin, and those terrorist groups, also opposed partition, but for the opposite reason Palestinians did. Palestinians didn't want to be colonized, at all. The terrorists wanted to colonize it all. "Moderate" Zionists were okay with colonizing half ... for now (what would happen in the future, after partition, was up to them, said Ben-Gurion). The Zionist terrorists were also involved in massacres, and assassinations, during the partition violence (colonialist war against the natives).
Another notable future Likud PM, also started in the military, during the partition fighting. That was Ariel Sharon, war criminal, "Butcher of Beirut".
Menachem Begin, and these other Zionist terrorists, are important because they became involved in Israeli politics, first forming Herut. That was the party that Albert Einstein, and other prominent American Jews, opposed, having a letter printed in the NYT, in December of 1948, when Begin came to visit the US. The letter opened ...
"Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine."
Herut merged with other extremist parties, over the years, and eventually became Likud, in the 70s. Now, people get upset over the slogan "From the river to the sea!", but it's the second part that's most important, "Palestine will be free!". Because "Palestine" isn't defined as an ethno-state, a free Palestine can be a single state, free for all to live in, and return to, free of continuing colonization, free of occupation, free of oppression, etc. Just like a Germany free of Nazism, an Italy free of fascism, a South Africa free of apartheid, or an America free of slavery from sea to shiny sea. It doesn't necessitate purging all the Jews. It just necessitates them giving up on the idea of an ethno-state.
On the other hand, because "Israel" has been defined as an ethno-state, Likud's, "between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty", has no possible good interpretation. It is a declaration of intent to completely colonize, and ethnically cleanse, all Palestine territories. Not only that, but it also claims that they have a "right" to all of the "Land of Israel" (biblical borders that don't mesh with archaeological reality), which is an open declaration of future wars, against Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and possibly even Iraq.
Likud platform ...
1977: "The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.
b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace."
1999: "The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs."
"The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting."
All Palestine territories are officially considered occupied, by the International Court of Justice, the UN GA, the UN SC, and even in official documents of Israel's own allies. Likud is still using the blueprint for colonizing North America, in the West Bank. Move settlements out into native territory, piss off the natives, the natives retaliate, cry about poor "innocent" colonizing settlers being the "victims" of violent "Savages!", call in the cavalry to put down the native uprising, and eventually expand the borders to include those settlements. Rinse and repeat. In Gaza, Israel is operating an open air WWII style fascist ghetto. Them claiming a "right to defend themselves" would be like the Nazis claiming a "right to defend themselves " from the Warsaw ghetto uprising. There's no "war". That they're the occupiers means the "war" part is long over. Those people are actually supposed to be under the occupier's protection.
That partition was forced upon the Palestinian majority, against their will ... that the Zionist portion still had to be forcefully ethnically cleansed of its non-Jewish majority, against their will ... that the millions of occupied Palestinians don't have a say in the government that truly rules over them, Israel's ... means Israel is about as democratic as Nazi Germany after Hitler purged his political opponents and then held elections.
Intelligent people aren't into Howie or his clouded view of the world. Ari's more intelligent
I agree with ari BUT saying it's safe in Iran is pretty wild.
Pathetic
Dude Howie, Ethan Klein and many other people are soo brainwashed by IDL hersbora propaganda
Criticizing Saudi Arabia is not islamaphobic. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitic.
IT becomes anti Semitic, if you're constantly critiquing things that you would not only not criticize, but actively support, had another other country conducted itself in the same manner.
Is the war justified? Yes.
Is the combatant to civilian death particularly bad? not even close - its actually REALLY impressive for a war taking place entirely in urban environments.
@@kurolap7882 So you think people opposing Israel genocide of children and women anti-semitic? Well the word have lost its meaning. You guys call people who are anti-genocide anti-semitic. Good luck with that.
The word antisemitism and what it means don’t have any substance to a western historically christian person. Someone making a label that is meant to creative a pejorative out of criticizing them is self serving and appeals to no ethical common ground. If a guy named Jeff said “criticizing me is anti-jeffism guys and that’s not right” you would laugh in his face.
@@kurolap7882 You aren't very good with understanding warfare.
Just like how criticizing your loved ones doesn't mean you hate them. We live in a world where you can't cast judgement or tell people what you really think of them without them turning on you.
Bro literally admitted to not going out yet thinks the world is on fire
He sees the world through an lcd window, that should explain it
@@yobench , just another arrogant neurotic elitist jew.
Yes, SO blinkered.
Why is howie mandell even relevant in 2024. He was funny for 15 minutes in 1983.
@@Autistic_Internet_Slap_Fights , the guy used to wear a rubber glove on his head and talk in a baby voice.
Howie: "I don't go out"
Also Howie: "It's a real problem out there"
What a square lol.
Israel is losing the PR war. That’s why Mandel is so upset
Exactly - but it's not a war.. it's a genocide. Jews are just as racists.
I can only imagine how much mossad is freaking out about them completely losing the social media battle. Only jews and old people are strong, vocal zionists now.
Because everyone sees their true intention is to total push the Palestinians out of Israel. Go back and look at the map from when they first arrived in Israel after the UN brought them back.
Hamas is a terrorist organization that has blood on its hands. For silly, clueless people in the West, it is a 'PR war'. While Israel (and UAE/Saudi and other neighbors) want Hamas/the Iranian theocracy gone for good. The latter will happen sooner or later, regardless of all the social media noise and virtual signaling generated, primarily, by the West.
Killing children by the thousands does tend to have that effect
Howie Mandel so desperately wants to be a victim. Ari wouldn't let him. Love Ari.
Howie NEVER goes out and sees the world and is convinced there is some massive problem
@@highdesertbiker i feel sad to see him convinced by the bad side, the dark side. I hope he changes his opignion and stay logical and honest.
@@ZenSrk-hk9ui Ya he seems like he's a bit brainwashed and egotistical about an issue he clearly knows very little about
I feel that those ear pods 😂 sponsors if you know what i'm talking about are on to someting to make howie say such thing.
I see that he was really nervous when he was talking to ari.
I feel sorry for Howie also. Only because he was in the movie “Walk like a Man”.
People are upset with Israel not Jews
Zionism is not Judaism. My Jewish friends (anti-Zionists) tell me that Jews are not victims. Jews are survivors and because what happened to them, they have the obligation and duty to make sure that the same thing does not happen to anyone else.
Problem is so many are duel citizens Israeli firsters even members of Canadian and UK parliament, let alone the American zionisrs lobby AIPAC being larger than the NRA, Farming lobbies, or any other for that matter .
You'd think 30+ million black people in America would have more lobbying power than 2 million Jewish Americans.
But that's simply not the case for any other group.
The numbers speak volumes .
No, we are upset with jews.
@@eno6712 Nailed it. Forget black people, latinos, everyone else.... lets focus on quite literally 1.5% of the population who also happen to be easily the most financially succesful group in America. We are literally creating laws to protect the most privileged group in American history, who very likely are more loyal to Israel than they are to to the U.S.
Watching Howie Mandel get heartbroken because Ari, a fellow Jew won’t allow himself to play a victim like he does was phenomenal. Ari based af!
Ari has a new superpower seeing through human lies and bullshit.
Howie is insufferable
Yep. Pussycat men like Howie have no problem sacrificing everybody on their alter. They refuse to acknowledge the reality we live in. The rich look at us like cows.
Such a zionist jew, who knew?
and yet he's the one posting this video haha ! Seems like he's okay showing people he can be wrong
@@Zsilu3 Depends what kind of reaction he was expecting.
@@Zsilu3he doesn't think he's wrong THATS WHY he posted it
Ari the only person telling the truth
This is the truth about most things. If you're talking about statistical relevance, almost nothing we argue about or worry about fits that criteria.
@@Fantasyremix you are correct. We live in a culture of distraction. And people like Howie are the leaders.
He's not telling the whole truth, he admitted to as much in not going to college campuses. Which means he's basically ignorant about something everyone else sees with their own eyes. He is downplaying hysteria where it's needed as well.
Howie's overplay and Ari's underplay mean they both need each other's perspectives. That's America in a nutshell.
@@machtnichtsseimann it's not underplaying to acknowledge that certain places have nothing to do with your life. 99% of the population does not regularly visit a college campus so to pretend that what is happening at one dictates the events of your life is asinine. Real people don't hate Jewish people real people don't hate black people real people aren't looking to argue or fight in public. Concentrate on your reality is the cure to the stupidity
@@machtnichtsseimann you've never experienced violence of any kind due to your race nor have u ever witnessed it outside of what u saw on MSNBC.
Living in NYC, with a large Jewish population, none of my friends who actually go out and do activities feel threatened for being Jewish. Only people who stay home all day, think there are people out there who want to attack Jewish people.
Howie sits on twitter all day listening to Ben Shapiro and thinking everybody is against jews
lol so true. I forgot I was immigrant till anti trumpers told me to “look out” lmao.
Now go to israel where people only interact with other jews and are constantly being fed propoganda. It turns into a hysterical and crazy circlejerk
So do you think all of the hate crime stats are fake? And if you do, let me guess, the ones about black people committing 50% of the crime, those you don't think are fake?
@@mindharpshow us all these stats you have
To defend Gaza, to defend Palestine, to defend peace is NOT anti-semetic, it's anti war!
Nah it's definitely anti-semitic. You know it.
@@kenzaifun but like umm wait umm bro...like um the palestinians are semites too tho...like bro
@@icecoldyellowredbull you know what i mean. you are anti-jewish. if you want to be really precise. aight ?
@@kenzaifun lmaoo well I guess is if all Jews are for for genocide then I’m against them for sure no doubt about it. I’m against slavers , genocidal lunatics , rapists, murderers , war mongers etc etc . If anyone identifies with those I’m against them for sure.
@@kenzaifunwhat about all the jewish people who oppose the war?
Howie: I don't go out
Also Howie: closing your laptop is hiding from the problem.
Under-rated comment.
Indeed. A lot of people now have been drummed up and conditioned into an obsession of thinking that experiencing the world through the incredibly distorted lens of internet media is somehow more real than experiencing actual reality - real people and day-to-day life. It's also important to note actually that when we get absorbed into social media and online media and forums etc etc, we are also not even experiencing ourselves realistically...who else notices this? The mind gets enormously distorted when hooked so much into the fake reality of the internet.
Yes, the internet can be used as a great tool for learning and finding some entertainment, but we massively overuse it and get absorbed into strange propagandized and twisted false realities when we do so. Governments and big businesses know this too, to varying degrees. Even if it's something as seemingly innocent as just companies advertising things, it's relentless here. It used to be we'd occasionally see some billboards and ads on tv, but we'd spend most of our time in the real world and talking to real people and trying to solve real problems.
The internet has become the most hyper-intense and endlessly saturated commercial machine, news media (no, not just mainstream either...), opinioneering and downright propaganda tool the world has ever known. Everyone is trying to distort your thinking to get you to follow a certain cause or sell you something, make you vote for someone or even just to plain old get you to click their links. Businesses make billions of dollars now just by doing and saying anything they can to make you click links. Just think how different that entire business model is from anything that's come before it and how dangerous it is for people's minds and outlooks.
@@AD-kv9kjThank you for that. It felt like a wake up call I needed because somewhere along the way I fell back asleep and needed to hear this sort of thing again. I hope I can take the gist of your comment with me. Cheers
lol
😂😂
'I don't go out' vs the person who has gone out. Howie has been brainwashed. Ari is bang on.
No, Howie has been TRAINED!
@@kidwave1 By whom?
@@estebancomuletby the zionists, the silly 'birthrite' trips to the motherland, all all the crying joooos around him poking people in the eye and then claiming victimhood. If people like Howie weren't the perpetual victim, they wouldn't know who they were.
@@estebancomuletOur elitist masters 😉👌
Ari who has openly worn his Jewwyness on his chest for 20 years (and is serenaded with “JewJewjajew” whenever he walks into a podcast) versus Howie who many of us didn’t even know was jewish
Most privileged people on earth want to be victim so bad.
1:44 "Bro if you shut the laptop you'll never see it" That was spot on.
So if you don’t see it, it doesn’t exist? Let’s end all wars by just ignoring them. Genius.
Bro wasn't ready for this reality check...
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If policies of Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Dehumanization,Pogroms,Mass Graves,Ethnic Cleansing,etc are repeated
▪︎Doesn't amount to Holocaust?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings im crying lmao
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎Dehumanizing a group of people Rats - Fascist
▪︎Dehumanizing a group of people Human Animals - Not Fascist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings is english your 5th language?
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If those once Ethnic Cleansed
▪︎Ethnic Cleanse others
▪︎Following footsteps of their Oppressors,no?
Holy fuck. Respect to Ari for saying how he feels instead of being a yes-men.
He could’ve easily go along but actually stated how he not only feels but has experienced the actual world.
That’s definitely ari
That's why we love him
Yea…. That’s not Ari.
What about all the Jewish protesters against genocide, are they antisemite ? I'm Jewish and Israel's actions have made me more afraid of what people's attitude towards Jews are than anything since the 1930's. There is no contest as to who the aggressors are, it started 70 years ago and the constant persecution of the Palestinians has been an embarrassment to me to say the least, more shame than embarrassment.
Thanks brother
Much love brother
Don't push this "I am Jewish" with me. I don't have patience this for assorted faux Jews, far left antisemitic "Jews" and similar garbage. This is selling well only with Hamas..
I know I am Jewish:
- raised by fiercely Jewish, fiercely Zionist people with tragic history. I am the second generation (father lost his family)
- had two emigrations
- have a masters in JEWISH history with a focus on antisemitism and know the countries were most Jewish lived very well, etc.
dr anna
douchhhhheeeeeeee
stop being such a jew
Crazy how simply being against genocide could get you labeled as an anti-semite.
Bravo Ari. Stop clutching the pearls Howie.
Funny enough Howie sounds racist here. Saying to Ari - "but your face is... " implying that in bad neighborhood he might have problems because he looks Jewish. He looks Semitic just as many not Jewish people in middle east. Fun fact - almost all Palestinians are Semitic but . only about 50% of Israelis are.
Being anti-Israeli government isn't antisemitic. That like saying it's racist to not like the US government.
Bingo.
Israeli government is jewish
But you need to acknowledge WHY the Israeli government is like that. Zionism is the belief that the Jewish RACE is superior to all other RACES. So, if semites are the ones comitting genocide and spewing their supremacist ideology, why is antisemitism wrong?
Anything in particular you find wrong with the Israeli government that isn't antisemitic?
@@bromeotorres6964 RUclips is going to delete my replies. I would suggest looking into what Noam Chomsky has to say. He's one of the world's leading intellectuals, and he's Jewish.
howie: the sky is falling.
ari: only in your mind.
“They cry out as they strike you”
Howie Madel always has terribly uninformed and out of touch takes on life
He's correct about Iran being safe for Jews. Drew Binsky went there and was treated with great hospitality and it's one of the best travel experiences he's ever had. And he's Jewish and American. People are people. They're not governments and ideologies and whatnot. If you treat them with respect, they will treat you the same way.
There are a LOT of Persian Jews still traveling to and fro Iran
@@basicallyno1722 There's a lot of Persian Jews who aren't comfortable living there because of the government. I agree that the average person in most places isn't hateful.
I doubt every place in Iran is safe. It's generally safe for Jews and blacks in the USA too, but there are areas in the USA you don't want to be in at night if you're a Jew or black.
You are so full of shit, ask Arvin Nathaniel Ghahremani if he doesn't get executed for defending himself.
@@FarmersTableBayArea Same with Armenians there too, who tend to be Christian. I think a lot of Persian Iranians raised Muslim arent even comfortable there at present. I definitely think its constantly changing in each region.
Mandel talking about antisemitism on college campuses even though most of these Palestine protests have explicitly Jewish activists
Recently moved to a part of NE Philadelphia that is literally half Ulranians, Russian, Arab Muslims and Jews . . . These people go to war in their own countries but here in America decide to live in the same neighborhoods 😭
Eastern Ukrainians largely see themselves as Russians.
In times of madness, Ari seems to become the voice of reason. In times of reason, he's the voice of madness. What a chaos wizard.
my skank pres
Sometimes it is best to listen to the jester instead of the mad king
Our entire culture is philo-Semitic. Every politician goes apoplectic anytime anyone hurts a Jewish person’s feelings.
Exactly and now they wanna complain about the groups they normally supported
NO WONDER DANA WHITE WALKED OUT ON YOUR LAME AHH.
Ive never in my life have ever seen anything remotely anti-Semitic in Canada ever.
There was just a shooting at a Jewish school in Canada.
Come drinking with me lol
I definitely have (many years ago, mind you) but no more or less than any other thing like that, definitely not the norm. Expecting no 1 individual among millions to have an ignorant opinion is unreasonable anyway imo, people just have dumb opinions sometimes, it's not the end of the world.
Ari is right, Howie.
Howie turn it down man, it's not 1940s Germany 😂😂😂
.... depends where you are.
Israel happens to exist in a geographical region where the sentiment remains the same.
@kurolap7882 BullSĥìt man your just like Howie. Play the victim card all day everyday.
Lol
@@kurolap7882 oh please…. The Arab nations don’t hate Jewish people. They hate Z!onism. There’s a difference, so it’s not quite comparable to Nazi, Germany.
@@kurolap7882gee I wonder why that would be
Anti semitism is no longer about hatred or intolerance for Jewish people. It’s just a holy phrase to preempt criticism of Israel and the Jewish/pro Israel lobbies with unreasonable influence and control in the US and Europe.
"Shut the laptop. Go outside" and "statistically irrelevant" . Remember that.
People hate Ari, but he generally has good takes on divisive topics.
yeah people hate him for being jewy.... untill they find a topic where his jewiness doesnt shine through...
oi vei
I don't hate him. I like him with full awareness of the Ashkenazi history of collapsing western economies and profiting from both sides of war. Zionism is bullshit and the holocaust against the Palestinians is as bad as what is claimed to have happened to the European Ashkenazi that weren't wealthy enough to escape. None of that shit has anything to do with my opinion of a comedian who I find intelligent and hilarious.
actually you are 100% on that, I usually dont like the the man but he kept it 100 here
only people that hate ari are sports fans of lakers and Kobe and jews who need to sell fear and zionism
Howie was never really funny. I didn't know he was jewish. That explains his success as a comedian who isn't funny.
Ari is right. People are easily riled up and perception/experience is a function of what we focus on. We give too much credence to our feelings and blaming others for our emotions.
Ari is 100% right..... its propaganda for war!!!!!!
Howie Mandel: As a "Jew" it's a little scary.
Imagine being a Palestinian Arab.
Howie is 🐀🐀🪳🪳🐖🐖🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣🤣and all it ever be
Nobody’s asked you
Don’t let Hamass govern you
imagine being a LBGTQ+ in gaza
@@Saiputeraas if Israelis are super supportive of lgbt rights. News flash they’re very bigoted as well.
Howie is playing the victim card how pathetic.
"I literally don't go outside and you're wrong" lmaooo
I agree with Ari here. Turn off your tv and social media and go out and interact with people. You will see that all that noise just disappears. Be good to yourself and others. ✌
We've said that for 30 years and now we are facing the consequences of not engaging . We are looking at World War III or Civil War. All those kids you see online on are Future Leaders. People don't feel the need to hide their racism online like they do in real life and Ari is naive or part of the problem himself.
ari is only technically jewish. he doest dress, act, or practice judiuasm. he doesn't live in a jewish neighborhood. I am jewish. I am religious. I live in a jewish neighborhood. I see it all day everyday. I myself walking to synagoge have been slurred at. I see strores in my neighborhood with graffitti on jewish stores free gaza. kill jews. etc. jewish people are being randomly maced in the face and punched in the head within jewish neighborhoods. we wear hats to cover our judiasm kipa. I am sorry but listening to a dude like ari about anti semitism is like listening to a german say natzis weren't too bad
Till your getting scammed and their tunneling under your house. Also look up at the telephone poles in your city. Look for a thin wire, the jews try and trick their god by staying inside the "eruv"... wire snippers. ;)
If it bleeds it leads. If you watch the news and social media you'll think the world is comming to an end. Yet, if you look out the window nothings happening. The birds are chirping the sun is shinning. But if you look at your phone or TV it's fire a brimestone.
The most astonishing and at the same time hilarious thing in this video is Howie's genuine amazement at Ari Shaffir's clear-headed attitude.
"I don't go out" is not a a good excuse for being brain-washed, Howie.
As someone with a Jewish background I personally have only had 2 or 3 experiences of anti semitism in 36 years on this earth. A group of Arabic kids yelled slurs at me and I moved on. I believe maybe on campuses but in everyday life I don't see it.
Did not expect to be agreeing with Ari today but he is spot on.
Howies argument is null and void the second he says he doesn't go out.
Howie: I dont leave the house, antisemitism is everywhere!!
Ari: I've been all over the country, nothing is going on.
Should we listen to the guy who doesn't go out, or travels everyday?
You don't have to believe either of them. Just read the comments on any video having to do with Israel. The idea that "nothing is happening" is absolutely ridiculous. You want to believe that because it makes you feel good to think Jews are complaining about nothing.
@@williamslater-vf5ym
internet is detached from reality. If I went with what my Instagram feed showed me, then everyone is autistic, racist, and they think silica gel is great cat litter. When you leave your house, what do you experience? That's reality. Theres so many troll farms, disinformation centers, and idiots online. Close the computer, go for a walk in the park.
@@williamslater-vf5ym I kinda agree with Ari. The antisemtism is online and very bad but Jews in the western world arent rlly being attacked aside from fringe instances on the internet. People chanting for intifada is bad but they aren't acting on it
@@jake4297 They aren't acting on it because they don't want to go to prison. But they aren't being reprimanded either. If anything they're being praised and empowered. Not good.
@@williamslater-vf5ym ya but they arent acting on it specifically because the government is on our side different from in Nazi germany
Ari is proof that the Paranoia is not inherent in the community but it is cultural and Ari refuses to be a part of that .
Before watching this, I honestly assumed that Ari Shaffir would be on the wrong side...
Im stunned.
Shame on you Howie Mandel.
Ari: I walked around the block its sunny with no clouds. I got a little wet from a sprinkler.
Howie: I never go outside and its rainign cats and dogs.
LOL
This makes me think of the woman recently who had an addiction to cheese. She was spending hundreds a dollars a week on cheese and she went to rehab for it. She blamed it on all the stress that she perceived was being aimed at her for being a jew in her well off Manhatten neighborhood.
And this started a few years ago (years before october 7th!). Victomhood is a powerful drug. Its HIGHLY addictive.
Does anti semitism exist? Yes. Is it as much of a problem as people think it is. No. The most wild thing about it all is that White Nationalists Proud Boys are on the same side as the Z On Sts in this particular chapter of the culture wars. How much of a problem can antisemitism really be right now if the pro isreal anti free speechers are teaming up with the nazis?
I don’t typically like Ari but this is the most logical argument you can hear today
Here is a microcosm of the media right now:
Ari: "I'm not seeing this antisemitism"
Howie: "So are you a holocaust denier?"
The most based take by Ari and Howie couldn’t handle it lol
He doesn’t go outside but also thinks it’s real
If you asked AI to generate the epidemy of this issue in a debate you would get this clip. Ari is exactly right and as Howie displays, there is a direct coloration between lack of exposure to social realities and situations and the belief that is fed to them. It's always the same story: "I always thought X until I actually met or did X"
Ari has that Israeli confidence vibe from living there, while Howie plays the Woody Allen, New York role of victim.
Ari is right
Ari accidentally grabbed the bottle he pissed in
"Max, if you want the number 216 in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere. 216 steps from your street corner to your front door, 216 seconds you spend riding on the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed with anything, you filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere."
Ari is the man: Telling the Truth and drinking piss.
“There’s war everywhere, how are we gonna choose which ones to fucking feel” exactly
All Howie has is incredulousness. There's no argument against what Ari is saying.
There is, but it’s completely based on imagination 🤷🏼
Yeah, you could really see the gears grinding in his head lol like it was breaking his brain. Imagine being that drunk on the Kool Aid.
Damn, this guy nailed it! He actually nailed cancel culture complaints too - 'you can get arrested for comedy!' 'has it happened though', 'no'.
Howie went full left leaning there. Because Ari is a Jew, he must think a specific way. Ari's stance is pretty spot on. Close social media and go outside
Go Ari!
As a Canadian, I used to be proud of Howie Mandel, now I'm embarrassed.
As a Canadian, why would you ever be proud of him? 😆
Howie capitulated the argument when he said something about Ari's belly button
Shaffir is correct in the sense that, so long as you're an American Jew in America who doesn't go to a synagogue that has gotten bomb threats or express the belief that Israel shouldn't be wiped out, you're probably fine.
Ari is the voice of reason, who knew
lol Right?
You can be pro Palestine and not anti sematic. Give people more credit at parsing through details. My thoughts to everyone involved.
palestinians are semitic mate. if u're pro palestine u're pro semitic.
It's crazy, it's almost like there are multiple sides to complex issues.
7:54 jewie didnt like that one 😂😂
Ari keeping it 💯 as usual
Is being against the actions of the Israeli government the same thing as being against Jewish people? Is being against your own government's actions in a given conflict and protesting that being against yourself and everyone else in your entire culture, religion or race? No, it isn't.
No I love Jews also Arabs from the Levant are Semitic
I am semitic Syrian 100% Arab and Muslim and love Jews I am Anti Zionist Anti Apartheid Anti Occupation Anti Israhell
Yeah people criticize the Chinese government all the time but nobody suggests that you’re racist against Chinese people for doing so
A ton of Jews including myself want Netanyahu to step down NOW!
💯💯💯
@@nzelver559 Bb stepping down isn't going to solve everything, theirs a good chance he would be replaced by someone worse.
I personally find it fascinating when I think about the Russiagate in recent years and then think about the influence of AIPAC on US politics. No other organization has bought politicians this openly. Russians and their troll farms can only dream about the amount of influence... if this is pointed out, the A word is often being used. Ari is right, not many people are in it truly because of hate. Being able to say that a country is an aparteid and that you don´t agree with politics of some fringe right wingers in government cannot be conflated with antisemitism.
Ari officially made me want to go back to a flip phone and cancel my Internet service.
It’s honestly nice to hear Ari’s actual perspective all I know of him is comedic shit which is fine but it’s cool to see. It’s not antisemitism to tell Israel not to do a genocide. Don’t let these wannabe victims gaslight you.
Hey Howie, which is it safer to be, Jewish or Gazan?
Ari shattered that man's entire false media reality
I love Ari and I like Howie but I don’t support Israel keeping Palestinians from having any statehood. Does that make me antisemitic? Or critical of a government?
Probably according to the ADL lol
Yes because they demand you recognize Israel as the only Jewish State. Then they turn around and say Israel can’t represent Jews as a people. I say it represents them perfectly.
I've never been a fan of Howie Mandel & this just reinforced that. He always acts like he is a victim & constantly looks for things to get upset about. It's like watching an episode of the breakfast club
Ari loves gold so much even his water is golden.
It's a part of the culture.
it's actually the bottle he pissed in.
Ill be the first to say it. That was a pretty funny joke lol
Ari would dance on that music festival and then talk about statistics after.
1. i didn't know howie mandel was Jewish until today
2. does this make Bobby in Bobby's World canonically Jewish?
3. Ari did a skit where he picked up immigrants and dropped them off at an immigration office, so not sure he's qualified to talk about racism 🤣🤣🤣
4. this conversation is literal proof there is no monolith
As a Palestinian I still like you Ari and Howie and would not want to see harm to them. I think many Jews are taught at a young age and drilled into their head that everyone hates them and wants to harm them. Yet in reality I do not know any Palestinians who think like this. It is sad what Jewish parents have done to their children.
You don't know a single Palestinian who hates Jews?
that's funny. the Palestinians I have met say from the river the sea
@michellenorris8471 yeah. good luck with that. well thought out and one sided
@@Montague-uh6eq So do I, What is your point?
@@alphaviews4639 so do I what?
"ANTISEMETISM EVERYWHERE!!!! ITS LIKE ANUDDA SHOAH!!!!"
i literally came here to say that if i could pick two people who i couldnt care less about their opinions on anything, especially world affairs, these two weirdos would be at the top
Did you "literally" come here to say that? "literally"? Ari had a very sound point he made and you just come across like a fucking idiot.
Quote of the vid: " They don't hate Jews, just zionism".
1000's of Jews travel to Iran annually, it's never a problem.
It’s a perspective issue, like... if your woke enough to think ari was racist in this video, then racism is everywhere!!
Funny enough the people calling this so called rise of antisemitism is being pushed from the right
Remember the Liberty
911
Lavon Affair and 🕺 💃 🇮🇱ies
I remember. 🇺🇸
These religious fanatics are so weird.
I don’t care for Ari Shaffir, but I respect his honesty and position here.
One guy goes out and tours the country
Another says I never go out
Then argues
And if these guys think California resembles the country
It’s not
Howie had zero argument
Howie knows he has to argue though - otherwise the episode ends too early.
California lives rent free in a lot of people's heads. It's kind of pathetic now.
Wow. my new favorite tiny hat. He must be the only one on the planet that has divorced himself from ridiculous victimhood and embraced reality. Kudos. Can't wait to see the backlash
Yea lmao there is still hope
Ari thrives in backlash and remains invincible.
They’re out there. The tribe excommunicates them.
Saying tiny hat is antisemitic..
@@zedleed999 Wearing tiny hats is antisemitic.
Agree with Ari 100%. The media and online world try to make the isolated instances the majority of thought. When you go outside you see pretty quickly that the majority of people are civilized and just want harmony.
Never forget the USS Liberty and all the brave men who died that day!
Nobody has been arrested in "comedy" in the UK, but people have been arrested for saying some pretty insignificant things there.
When you call everyone an antisemite for criticizing Israel, the word starts to lose meaning.
0:48 "I did, I yelled jew at him this morning" should have gotten a bigger laugh or least acknowledged😂