Should come with a holster for when you find out you have to remove the body to change a $15.00 hose that "fails quite often"..... Should have the Kleenex Edition out soon....
Meh. I bought one and we wanted to love it. 2023 with the hurricane engine. Needed a new engine at 2 months of ownership. Oil was full of metal shimmer and flakes. Engine was replaced and the second engine had a different set of issues. The car was lemon law repurchased at month 3 and surrendered at than 6 months of ownership. We replaced it with a Platnium edition Expedition Max and couldn't be happier.
I love this channel. Deeply detailed overviews of complicated cars from a passionate expert in the field with priceless real world experience built up over many years. This guys a legend and I believe everything he says. He’s a Toyota guy, sure, but he doesn’t hold back calling them out either. That’s how you know he’s a real one.
You did a great job showing this Jeep --- Trust me when I say; it was better than any AUTO online review. I like how you explain the "hit the button" and run tailgate -- (so real)!!!
Man I'm not buying any new car from now on without checking out your RUclips channel to see if you made a review of it. Thanks for the quality work, AMD!
@@mottom2657 There's hundreds of videos on RUclips, from sites like Car Wizard, Rainman Ray's, Watch Wes Work, etc. Plus many online articles. Look it up yourself!
@@aliabdallah102 lol Toyota and Honda are for people who can't do their oil changes or maintain their car ☠️ and have or pay someone else to work on your car.
There used to be a motto - KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. Modern auto design has not just forgotten that motto, it has wilfully developed a mindset to produce the exact opposite.
I'm gladly keeping my 06 Jeep Commander Hemi/4x4 over a modern model for the very reason you suggested (I bought her when new and do most of my own maintenance and repairs). Never will I buy a turbo engine in any car!
My 07 Cummins 5.9 has 535k on it and will still outlast anything at a dealership today. Can tow a gross weight of 30k lbs no problem. New vehicles are junk because they follow the WEF agenda. ....you'll own nothing.
I can see my other reply to the original poster on this thread is hidden/censored.. for what reason I don't know, it wasn't vulgar or mean.@@mopwax239 In my opinion Toyota dropped the ball on the Grand Highlander putting a turbo 4 cylinder in a 4500 lb. that I view almost full size SUV. It's ill equipped if you ask me, I would at least want the smoothness of a 6 cylinder. I personally wouldn't want that large of a vehicle and then load 7 people into it with their gear being that sorely underpowered, then crank on the a/c and add some treacherous terrain with steep hills or mountains and I could see that Grand Highlander being a not so grand dog trying to move all that mass. But I can't answer for the original poster so that's my two cents.
@TheRealCatof I've owned two Toyotas. My first was a 93 standard cab with a 22RE. In 142k miles it: Snapped its front axle Ate FOUR (4) alternators Blew a power steering pump Blew an oil pump Had a frame that was more rust then metal (despite living in Georgia its whole life) And jumped time TWICE The second time I had it crushed. Then I had a 99 4Runner that made it to 191k miles before it shot a rod into the earth. Meanwhile, my 05 Rubicon has 366k miles on the original 4.0L and transmission. Its been all around North and South America, due every trail from Beasley Knob to Rubicon, to climbing Ojos del Salado. Most expensive thing I've ever had to replace on it was a PCM.
I have a third generation Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 as well. Only differences are mine is the 2005 model year, mine is in the Limited trim and mine has the 4.7 liter V8 engine. The mileage on mine so far is a little over 183K. I've seen few articles, few message postings either from RUclips or social media that says quote "Jeep vehicles are nice, but reliability is on the downside." That assessment is inaccurate because it depends on how the vehicle is maintained. That's with any vehicle regardless of manufacturer. My 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee used to be my daily driver. I still have it, but I use it as a secondary vehicle due to the fact that last year in July of 2023, I got a new vehicle. I got the 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L. I got it in the Summit Reserve trim nicely equipped with the 5.7 liter HEMI V8 engine. Good performing engine. A night and day difference over the 3.6 liter Pentastar V6 engine. As for the features, they are nice and comfortable. Jeep definitely hit the ball out of the park with this fifth generation Grand Cherokee L and Grand Cherokee. They also did the same with the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Jeep brought back the Grand Wagoneer due to the fact that full-size SUVs generated lots of sales regardless of manufacturer since few years ago until now. They also brought back the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer because full-size SUVs was MIA in the lineup. In reference to the Grand Wagoneer, they also brought it back to steal some sales away from the Cadillac Escalade (main target) and Lincoln Navigator. Strategically, stealing some sales away from those two worked. It was brought back to also steal sales from the other competitor vehicles BMW X7, Mercedes GLS and Infiniti QX80. However, no pressure in doing that because those three full-size SUVs lack the size of the Grand Wagoneer.
@@hemiwarrior6226 Well that's it. You own the iconic and reliable TJ with a amc 242. Modern Jeeps are terrible man. The TJ and the XJ are the last reliable models for the brand.
As an old geezer now I can tell you what I really miss is opening the hood and having room to work. When I was young and on a budget I had a Dodge Dart with a slant 6 enigne. I learned to do a few things to save money but there was so much room under the hood that (I never tried it) you could if you wanted to find room to stand in the engine bay. That engine with the Chrysler automatic (1969) was as bullet proof as they came!
I think the Chrysler auto back then was a 3 speed "Torque Flite" is what they called it. With that slant 6 and auto I had no problem doing 75 on the interstate.
I had one of those slant 6 engines in a Plymouth Grand Fury, former police car. It had a huge report writing light in the headliner, a huge radiator, rubber floorboards, and poverty caps on steel wheels. It was a fantastic car for the money.
I rented one with a few hundred miles on it. Two times in a weekend it wouldn’t start - software issues. It rebooted each time after sitting for 5 - 10 minutes. There’s no way I would buy a Jeep product.
We never know with Chrysler quality how it will hold up. I will admit my mother-in-law has a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (no air suspension) with just about 150k and she’s still driving it with no issues! I am shocked honestly, it’s a joke we tell because between My Corolla, her Jeep Grand Cherokee, my sister-in-law’s Nissan Murano and my spouses Audi, her Jeep and my Corolla has had the least problems! I’ll have to wait until they are like $20k so it will be a bit! 😂 Great review again Carcare Nut! I love the unbiased but you do point out the issues in these design! We drove a ford Edge with the 2.0 Turbo and I was shocked with the amount of plastic under the hood much like this Wagoneer and I likewise was concerned how this plastic would hold up. *Edit Someone rear ended her today and totaled her jeep 😭 guess my car won* *Second Edit: She got a newer one 😂 2018 Grand Cherokee 3.6 so we will see with this one 😂😂
My wifes 2012 Jeep Liberty Jet Limited is still going strong 12 yrs later with almost 100k miles. 30 years of many Toledo built Jeeps with no problems & enjoyed all of them.🎉
Basically, if money is no worries to you and neither is spending money on repairs, but you want to be comfortable, than this is your buy. Or if you want to lease it for 3 years and do it in style. Other than that it will be nice to see how this thing ages. If the Pacifica is any future indicator.... It's not looking good.
Toyota found this out their new Tundra has no V8 and their turbo 6 cyl engines are blowing up left ,right and center..Toyota Tundra is the least reliable new truck as 2023 they just had the turbo 6 cyl that fails to this day!
@mypronouniswtf5559 Agreed, Toyota should've never got rid of the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Tundra, that V8 engine will outlast any EcoBoost engine with ease.
Toyota is not as reliable as you may think. And, Toyota's in general are meh to drive. I rather enjoy the drive than worry if it'll be with me in 20 years because to be honest, why would I want a 20 year old meh vehicle?
Speaking if plastic on coolant hoses. Dorman finally came out with a aluminum coupling for the 2012 Toyota RAV4 with the 2.5 where the plastic coupling always breaks near the engine block where the radiator hose starts and the little bypass hose goes to a coolant pipe. Now I won't have to worry about that breaking again. Wish Toyota would have made that metal to begin with. The Ford Panther Platform's from 2003-2011 had the power seat switch on the driver's door and depending on trim or model it was also on the passenger door as well. I think its more convenient, especially for the elderly, to have the seat adjustment switch on the front door card.
$123k of turbocharged planned obsolescence. An inline six - (Jeep 4.0, 2JZ, Ford inline six) that is well maintained and naturally aspirated will last for decades. The infotainment & leather are useless when the engine blows up.
@@manjotsandhu9539 yep all the new sequioas are hybrids. That's why I think pairing a hybrid with the turbo is the way to go and will probably make them engine last way longer overall. The hybrid batteries in them are pretty proven tech and can easily go 300k+ miles based on other hybrids if you take care of them.
If this was an actual SRT made engine (or aftermarket project even) that 26 psi would be awesome. Being an adopted engine from the rest of the gang across the pond, it is concerning lol
I recently rented a Chrysler mini van, I don’t remember the model, but it had a good number of miles on it. I drove it about 200 miles, I was pleasantly surprised, it was fairly quiet, it rode nicely, it didn’t have a bunch of squeaks and rattles, the stereo sounded pretty good and it was fairly comfortable.
They are good ,, as a rental . Rented a almost new town & country, 5 days later , need it replace with another even lower mileage one , not safe to drive becoz it was shaking , Then the next 18 days , no problem at all . Drive smooth , Good power , Total miles driven was 12,000 + km's , in 24 days . Would rent them again , always .
I bought a 2018 Pacifica new, a Touring Plus for $28,5 out the door. Leather, Stow n go, equipped nicely. They all have the 3.6. Anyway, I drive a TON as a service engineer, and need space for all my tools- pickups honestly cost too much for the not-so-great average fuel economy. I've serviced it at every recommended interval, changed the oil every 7,500 miles, and currently have 288,470 miles on the odo. Outside of all the recommended maintenance, fluid & filter changes, I've had the struts replaced at 100k, and again at 212k(the factory ride is amazing for those long distance slogs, so I make sure to keep it riding perfect), also front end bushings at 212k. I've had tie rods done at 100k, and 212k. Ball Joints at 150k, will likely need them at 300k again. Brake job once so far at 150k. Alternator died at 192k, exhaust has been replaced once just shy of 250k. I had the timing chain service done at 150k- it wasn't making noise or running poorly, its just recommended by 120k so I ended up just getting it taken care of then. Everything still looked good, so this time around I'm waiting until 300k to have it done again. I also had the Bluetooth module go bad at 76k miles, replaced under warranty. Has been fine since. That is everything in a nutshell. The 3.6 V6 has been solid, as has the entire powertrain. I feel preventative maintenance is crucial if you want any vehicle to last- and as I'm meticulous on getting my vehicles serviced, I've never had a "bad" vehicle from any manufacturer. Chrysler products tend to be bought by lower income or credit-challenged buyers alot of the time, many of whom beat the hell out of their vehicles and only ever have maintenance performed when something breaks. Same goes for routine fluid changes- lots go without, and you end up with vehicles that are used up by 100k miles. That's just how it goes unfortunatley.
I was at the dealership yesterday looking at full size SUV's...... even the car salesman personalty approached me and said "don't even think about the Jeep Wagoneer it is SO full of electrical problems, they are constantly returned for warranty work and can never fix the problems correctly, they are built like crap"....... hearing that was enough for me lol
Similarly I had a client who works at FCA in the software side. States he rather take a less complicated Grand Cherokee than any of the Wagoneers, and explicitly told to stay clear of the Hurricane Inline 6 until they figure out the details.
Agreed. The hurricane MIGHT end up being a solid engine, but the 5.7 is reliable (assuming you delete MDS) and parts are everywhere and it still makes decent power and torque while getting solid gas mileage for a 400hp V8.
Credit to Stellantis for the backup systems to get out of park. On GM vehicles they have the same issue where park is the default when the engine isn't running. But unlike Stellantis, in order to manually get it out of park you have to crawl under it and use a special tool to get it to neutral.
@@ozarkliving7263 Im not so sure anymore about how unreliable their cars are anymore considering they have allowed the ZF transmission in all of their line ups. There has also been a lot of brand revivals going on and I wouldn't count them out of the race for reliability concern just yet. Hell Ive seen my fair share of Grand Caravans with stupid high mileage and very little maintenance required to get there. The new engine could become a problem with it being new but then again its a I6, something that has been done for so long that you kind of have to intentionally fuck up to fuck it up.
Absolutely agree. Almost all cars will break down at some point in time. To have the GM system where you have to crawl under the car to get it out of park and use a special tool is borderline criminal IMO.
@@Crunchymunchys well millions of dismal used car prices of Stellanis products say your assessment is likely incorrect. I know dozens of families personally whose experience with Dodge/Chrysler has been a nightmare. Like a blind squirrel occasionally finding a nut, a few Stellanis vehicles turn out to be only a partial nightmare.
A lady on a Sequoia FG group just announced herself with the shocking fact that Jeep is buying back a second wagoneer from her! Shes done with Jeep, now looking for a Toyota/Lexus as a result.
The turbo engines to try and compensate for the power of a v8 just don't hold up. No matter what they try and do with it. The reliability goes down every time you add a turbo to any engine.
Everyone wants a V8 in a big vehicle, but they’re not listening. They’re going to keep pushing these crappy turbo charged throwaway engines. I’m going to keep fixing my V8 vehicle until I can’t fix it anymore. I want nothing to do with modern vehicles anymore.
You’re describing that engine like it’s a small heart in a 310lb man. High blood pressure, but a freight train of hurt. Fun, but short and pricey life…. 😞 Why couldn’t they dig deep in its roots like the AMC 4.0?
@@StockCarGuy This 3.0 is more than redesigned. It’s a whole new platform! Direct injection carbon build up is like plaque growing in your coronary arteries. Twin turbos = high performance or high blood pressure. Ownership dies of a heart attack from shop repairs… 🔥💵🔥
I can't stop looking at the black Supra on top!! That has lasted over 25 years, is still an amazing car and it's worth more than when it was purchased!!
If they could really well insulate the engine compartment the 6.7L I6 Cummins Turbo Diesel Engine would be a super interesting option for this 6,428lb truck.
Now we're talking about a real, heavy-duty truck engine. I still wouldn't trust the build quality. Stellantis is a terrible company. Their quality control is non-existent. They tend to rush into production without testing for problems first.
@@jaimieconroy36good thing Cummins has abaolutely nothing to do with Stellantis and their ownership umbrella. I swear, people just associate anything thats in a chrysler/FCA/stellantis w.e product with being MADE by them. Their 8 speed transmission is a ZF unit full stop and guess what? Its more reliable than pretty much ANY Jatco craopy toyota made CVT or Ford/GM made abomination. Same goes for the ISB Cummins engines and even more so for the older 5.9 12v Cummins I6. Just because its in a car from a company you dont like doesnt mean it was MADE by that company. No one builds all their vehicles completely in house anymore.
When Car Care Nut starts hemming and hawing about a high strung engine, it is easy to not waste time looking further. These thorough analysis reviews are really valuable.
The one thing that was amazing on this vehicle when I test drove one at the MKE auto show last year was the center gauge display showing night vision. They made a great vehicle.
Very impressive vehicle and an excellent overview by you. I opted for reliability and durability. I bought a 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport. I paid $5K for it 3 years ago. I'm happy with it.
So I can't speak for the stellantis i6 but the Ford Ecoboost V6 motors are definitely not stressed. In fact, they are heavily detuned if anything. Take for instance the 3.0L... it produces 400 bhp but with the stock motor and all stock internals and nothing but bigger turbo setup and larger intercooler, people can pump them up over 600 whp easily and still be daily driver reliable. Most of these new 6 cylinder turbo engines are so heavily overbuilt.
I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee Limited with air suspension, 114,000 miles and 12 years old in April with no problems yet, still rides like a dream. Rear suspension has separate air bags and shocks but the front has combo struts, $1800 EACH. Ouch!
With both exhaust running directly under the transmission fluid pan I think that I would change the fluid more than recommended due too the heat. Most of these ridiculous vehicles will be hogging up streets here in Los Angeles with only the driver in the vehicle. .
For me considering its overpriced for the average buyer and no Hemi V8 I'll stick to my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong.
Excellent, useful, thoughtful and thorough overview. Covering all aspects of the vehicle, including the technical aspects, in a straightforward, understandable, way. Thank you and well done!
As always, I really enjoy your videos. One thing I noted on this one was how many times you commented on the size of the vehicle. Even though at the end you stated that you really liked full-sized American SUVS. please remember there are some of us really appreciate/need the full size if we are to be truly comfortable. My self, I’m 6’ 5” tall, kind of long in the torso and broad shouldered. You would be amazed at what I don’t fit in any longer. Thanks.
My Dad had a 61 Jeep pickup. In line 6 cylinder L6-226 Flathead engine. 3 speed manual trans 4 wheel drive (the real mechanical twin stick kind, not the ABS type). The rear different had the Limited Slip that worked great until you drove it in the snow in 2 Wheel Drive. When he said in line 6, he had my attention.
Your father's Jeep was an actual Jeep. This overpriced attention getter is a soon to be failure at a humongous price. Jeep lost its dependability in the very early 80's. They've been bought out by a few companies in hope to sell the true Jeep name with a non Jeep vehicle.
42:55 I didn’t really realize it until you demonstrated all of the seats folded down that the center console with display doesn’t make much sense. They could have easily integrated the HVAC controls into the display itself behind each one of the front seats Better yet: they could’ve done what Tesla did in the 24’ model 3 and put an HVAC control system on the back of the front center console which we already know won’t be folding down. Then you’d have been able to fold down all of the rear seats flat.
@@CountchoFCA throws away cars in recessions it’s a little amusing. I remember 10 or 12 years ago you could buy a base patriot for like 9 or 10 grand brand new 😂
My sister in law works for a jeep dealer in Florida. They warranty transmissions in these on every other one they sell. Constant warranty work on these new ones.
Just discovered your channel, as someone that rebuilds old cars it’s so great to get a technical overview of the new stuff! Thanks for sharing your expertise
Buy a new clean sheet engine design by Stellantis? No way! What are the odds that it makes 100K miles without replacing a head gasket or a turbo or two.
Didn’t watch the video, so I’m not sure if it was mentioned, but whenever I’ve gotten behind one of these since they came out, always noticed the right side, tail light and trim assembly didn’t line up between the fender and the deck lid. Love the old ones , don’t think much of this design.
As an owner of 2022 model I have to admit that the infotainment system becomes pretty glitchy with time. CarPlay often stops connecting, you have to remove the phone, add it back, then CarPlay appears in a day or two. The memory/profile settings get lost and messed up, the screen can restart by itself in a cycle and so on and so forth. Obviously, the service department doesn’t know anything about those things. Other than that, it’s a great giant vehicle, we really have a lot of fun with it. Turning heads guaranteed :)
I'm a Chrysler tech and can say yeah radio is glichy. There is a new tsb that came out for radio update but it's placed on hold so we don't have much information when we can get the update or it maybe even a Ota update.
Wow, All those cavities & gaps around the wheel wells are a *perfect* spot to keep all my salt & debris in the *winter* so I can turn it into rust *in the summer.* & Do it every year afterwards too. Nice! Props to Mopar for remembering how we enjoy that premature depreciation. Very thoughtful, Boys.
To be fair, that underbody protection you see on other cars do technically be add-ons when you look at the configurators...... Which does make seeing none here odd af!
I wonder what the benefit was for engineering to keep the exhaust in two pipes for so much of that huge exhaust run. I'm frankly shocked that accounting didn't call out that cost and win. Seems like so much simpler and lighter to just dump into one pipe from the cat back.
I came across your video and I am glad that I did! This is by far one of the most detailed review of a vehicle that I have seen on RUclips. It is to the point, there is no background music interfering either the review and you appear to be very competent in your field. I will definitely subscribe to view other reviews that you have posted. Keep up the good work!
My 2021 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk (N/A 3.2L) lasted a whole 14k miles before 9 lifters failed. At 20k miles the PTU was on its way out. There's no way I'd buy another Jeep. Life lesson learned.
I remember the 1980s. Basically every American car was like that - breaking down on a regular basis because of catastrophic design flaws that always required lots of expensive repairs to fix. The Renault Alliance Encore my dad had for a while was even worse. Our 1986 Nissan Stanza Wagon had a lot of miles when we got it and a few issues of it's own but was a big step up in terms of reliability. It at least made it to 100K miles before it started stranding us on the side of the road. Having a car that was reliable for a least a while was a game changer.
True dat. Jeep (and high powered) Dodge/Ram were Stellantis’ best shots, and they buried both with rediculous pricing and shoddy quality. They used to be hit or miss with quality… Now it seems miss or miss.
BMW uses a secondary cooling circuit for the turbo as well. To elaborate on what you said about the new engine trend one thing I've noticed about the smaller, particularly turbo engines is they do great in smaller cars, but then they put them into SUVs they are overburdened and start to have problems. A good example is when gm put the cobalt engine in the equinox
In the 39 years my wife and I have been married. We have bought a few new vehicles. The common problem has been intermittent issues thare typically connectors and the seating of a connector in the plug or electric block. I have helped friends resolve problems too. Any brand, and model will have this problem. Just buy the most basic trim level you feel comfortable with of the vehicle you like. All brands have these problems. But having air bags are asking for trouble. They work fine on tractor trailers, but not on cars!
I love the breakdown of the vehicle from a mechanics perspective. I have a much better understanding of how this new engine works and what could cause issues in the future. Great work!
nice , the L long body ..its a 3 row luxury family school bus needs opt 4th row jump seats for large utah families , I had a 88 grand wagoneer v8, 95 grand Cherokee I-6 , this is only a name , did go test drive one the magic is still there with the short wheelbase and inline I-6 , how long will this in line I-6 last ? it should of went into the other jeeps and ram trucks those buyers put a lot more miles on them, as if I paid $115k and it spent time in the shop id be pis off
we are a toyota family thru and thru, but i had a chance to rent this exact car in the limited trim version....i told my wife, i would buy this SUV hands down...the best one ive driven
The cylinder surfaces is coatet with Teflon. Will this help make your suv disposable? Very small displacement engine at 3 liters. Should only make about 200 horspower for reliability. Those 2 crutchie turbochargers gonna beat the crap out of that engine.😂
Can't wait to buy this thing used at 20 cents on the dollar in a few years.
with all the reliability problems! haha
With tons of issues😅
only way to afford it 🤷
😂😂😂 that’s exactly Benzes are LOL
@@BT-zw2ix I said it before you!
I don't watch movies nor binge TV shows, but man I prepare my snacks and drinks for all these videos. 50 mins for a car review, and I love it
Same here !!! 👍👍🤘
Same here.
A man of class, I see 🤝🍷
Oh shut up
@@TheTradosaurus No.
Good thing they got the tow hooks correct. They will be needed often.
Should you buy a Jeep Grand Wagoneer? No.
Should come with a holster for when you find out you have to remove the body to change a $15.00 hose that "fails quite often"..... Should have the Kleenex Edition out soon....
Probably for the newer ones. The inline 6 is too new and a lot of Stellantis vehicles are having a lot of electrical issues.
Those will snap off too when the recall for incorrect torque applied on tow hook bolts comes out
Lol!😅😂
Meh. I bought one and we wanted to love it. 2023 with the hurricane engine. Needed a new engine at 2 months of ownership. Oil was full of metal shimmer and flakes. Engine was replaced and the second engine had a different set of issues. The car was lemon law repurchased at month 3 and surrendered at than 6 months of ownership. We replaced it with a Platnium edition Expedition Max and couldn't be happier.
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I love this channel. Deeply detailed overviews of complicated cars from a passionate expert in the field with priceless real world experience built up over many years. This guys a legend and I believe everything he says. He’s a Toyota guy, sure, but he doesn’t hold back calling them out either. That’s how you know he’s a real one.
At 6’4 235lbs standing next to this makes me feel…..tiny.
@@Notfiveo0 ,,
Wow ,, didn't know that .
You did a great job showing this Jeep --- Trust me when I say; it was better than any AUTO online review. I like how you explain the "hit the button" and run tailgate -- (so real)!!!
Man I'm not buying any new car from now on without checking out your RUclips channel to see if you made a review of it. Thanks for the quality work, AMD!
Check ALL RUclips reviews. You might NEVER buy a new car!
@@sunbeam8866 Facts.
@@mottom2657 There's hundreds of videos on RUclips, from sites like Car Wizard, Rainman Ray's, Watch Wes Work, etc. Plus many online articles. Look it up yourself!
@@sunbeam8866well now im really wondering what car brand today is actually considered good in todays standards
120k today. 75k a year later. 26k 3 years old, $3500 in 8 years needing $20k in repairs to be operable
Haha yes sir 💯 facts
Yes, because no other cars from other manufacturers need crazy repairs, ever!
In five years, parts are worth 50k plus. So it’s not gonna go under that.
In Canada, it'll still probably cost $78k in 5 years.
@@MaddJakd Of course they do. But we're reviewing Jeep here!
"once you look beyond reliability" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How can anyone look beyond reliability?
@@kb9oak749you're looking at a Chrysler. You are by definition looking beyond reliability
If the thing doesn't run it is no good to me. I would bet the old Grand Wagoneer would be more reliable.
@@kb9oak749People who lease their cars for 2-3 years
@@aliabdallah102 lol Toyota and Honda are for people who can't do their oil changes or maintain their car ☠️ and have or pay someone else to work on your car.
There used to be a motto - KISS.
Keep It Simple Stupid.
Modern auto design has not just forgotten that motto, it has wilfully developed a mindset to produce the exact opposite.
The electrificationof vehicles is being forced upon us
@@timothykeith1367The use of gasoline vehicles is being forced upon us, you meant.
Which is why cars have become unaffordable for average folks.
I'm gladly keeping my 06 Jeep Commander Hemi/4x4 over a modern model for the very reason you suggested (I bought her when new and do most of my own maintenance and repairs). Never will I buy a turbo engine in any car!
My 07 Cummins 5.9 has 535k on it and will still outlast anything at a dealership today. Can tow a gross weight of 30k lbs no problem. New vehicles are junk because they follow the WEF agenda. ....you'll own nothing.
My guy low key roasting this truck🤣😅🤣😀
Well, there's plenty of material to roast!
You call this thingg a truck?!!! 😂😂😂
@@oodragondrew yeah
Keeping them honest though 100% all the time
He loved it. What review were you watching?
I’m glad I bought the last year of the outgoing Sequoia. Ancient, yes, but comfortable, reliable, and plenty of space for my family of 7.
Tried and true, can't go wrong there. The Sequoia has stood the test of time.
Why not grand highlander?
I can see my other reply to the original poster on this thread is hidden/censored.. for what reason I don't know, it wasn't vulgar or mean.@@mopwax239
In my opinion Toyota dropped the ball on the Grand Highlander putting a turbo 4 cylinder in a 4500 lb. that I view almost full size SUV. It's ill equipped if you ask me, I would at least want the smoothness of a 6 cylinder.
I personally wouldn't want that large of a vehicle and then load 7 people into it with their gear being that sorely underpowered, then crank on the a/c and add some treacherous terrain with steep hills or mountains and I could see that Grand Highlander being a not so grand dog trying to move all that mass. But I can't answer for the original poster so that's my two cents.
Me too. Hate what Toyota did to the 3rd gen Sequoia's 3rd row and cargo area. Just picked up a used 2020 TRD Pro.
You did the right thing.
Absolutely love your technical reviews, wish you all the best AMD!
Had A New 78 Wagoneer with The AMC 360 that was Bullet Proof! I'm not seeing any of these New Wagon reds going 300,000 miles without any Major Issues.
My 2007 JGC Laredo V6 3.7 4wd just hit 228K and still going strong 💪🏽 will drive her till the wheels falls off!
Why do Jeep guys always talk in code? It's a 2007 Grand Cherokee. Also 228k miles is nothing on something like a Toyota.
@TheRealCatof I've owned two Toyotas. My first was a 93 standard cab with a 22RE. In 142k miles it:
Snapped its front axle
Ate FOUR (4) alternators
Blew a power steering pump
Blew an oil pump
Had a frame that was more rust then metal (despite living in Georgia its whole life)
And jumped time TWICE
The second time I had it crushed.
Then I had a 99 4Runner that made it to 191k miles before it shot a rod into the earth.
Meanwhile, my 05 Rubicon has 366k miles on the original 4.0L and transmission. Its been all around North and South America, due every trail from Beasley Knob to Rubicon, to climbing Ojos del Salado. Most expensive thing I've ever had to replace on it was a PCM.
I have a third generation Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 as well. Only differences are mine is the 2005 model year, mine is in the Limited trim and mine has the 4.7 liter V8 engine. The mileage on mine so far is a little over 183K. I've seen few articles, few message postings either from RUclips or social media that says quote "Jeep vehicles are nice, but reliability is on the downside." That assessment is inaccurate because it depends on how the vehicle is maintained. That's with any vehicle regardless of manufacturer. My 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee used to be my daily driver. I still have it, but I use it as a secondary vehicle due to the fact that last year in July of 2023, I got a new vehicle. I got the 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L. I got it in the Summit Reserve trim nicely equipped with the 5.7 liter HEMI V8 engine. Good performing engine. A night and day difference over the 3.6 liter Pentastar V6 engine. As for the features, they are nice and comfortable. Jeep definitely hit the ball out of the park with this fifth generation Grand Cherokee L and Grand Cherokee. They also did the same with the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. Jeep brought back the Grand Wagoneer due to the fact that full-size SUVs generated lots of sales regardless of manufacturer since few years ago until now. They also brought back the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer because full-size SUVs was MIA in the lineup. In reference to the Grand Wagoneer, they also brought it back to steal some sales away from the Cadillac Escalade (main target) and Lincoln Navigator. Strategically, stealing some sales away from those two worked. It was brought back to also steal sales from the other competitor vehicles BMW X7, Mercedes GLS and Infiniti QX80. However, no pressure in doing that because those three full-size SUVs lack the size of the Grand Wagoneer.
@@hemiwarrior6226 Well that's it. You own the iconic and reliable TJ with a amc 242. Modern Jeeps are terrible man. The TJ and the XJ are the last reliable models for the brand.
@hemiwarrior6226 did you buy those rice burners new?
As an old geezer now I can tell you what I really miss is opening the hood and having room to work. When I was young and on a budget I had a Dodge Dart with a slant 6 enigne. I learned to do a few things to save money but there was so much room under the hood that (I never tried it) you could if you wanted to find room to stand in the engine bay. That engine with the Chrysler automatic (1969) was as bullet proof as they came!
I think the Chrysler auto back then was a 3 speed "Torque Flite" is what they called it. With that slant 6 and auto I had no problem doing 75 on the interstate.
When I was swapping the cylinder head in my '72 comet I stood in the engine bay to pull the head off. It could be done.
I had one of those slant 6 engines in a Plymouth Grand Fury, former police car. It had a huge report writing light in the headliner, a huge radiator, rubber floorboards, and poverty caps on steel wheels. It was a fantastic car for the money.
That's if you ever had a problem with them
I rented one with a few hundred miles on it. Two times in a weekend it wouldn’t start - software issues. It rebooted each time after sitting for 5 - 10 minutes. There’s no way I would buy a Jeep product.
Not even a wrangler srt?
Did you get refund for your rental ?
Jeep= Junk.
The only way to 'own'. Get it out of your system!
It's a reason why the simple XJ Cherokee is becoming a collector Jeep
I gotta say, I got a proper chuckle when he showed that firestick remote. Wasn't expecting that at all.
We never know with Chrysler quality how it will hold up. I will admit my mother-in-law has a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (no air suspension) with just about 150k and she’s still driving it with no issues! I am shocked honestly, it’s a joke we tell because between My Corolla, her Jeep Grand Cherokee, my sister-in-law’s Nissan Murano and my spouses Audi, her Jeep and my Corolla has had the least problems! I’ll have to wait until they are like $20k so it will be a bit! 😂
Great review again Carcare Nut! I love the unbiased but you do point out the issues in these design! We drove a ford Edge with the 2.0 Turbo and I was shocked with the amount of plastic under the hood much like this Wagoneer and I likewise was concerned how this plastic would hold up.
*Edit Someone rear ended her today and totaled her jeep 😭 guess my car won*
*Second Edit: She got a newer one 😂 2018 Grand Cherokee 3.6 so we will see with this one 😂😂
Oh no, so totaled means it's dead for good? Then it's sad.
@@mottom2657 yep, it’s gone. I fell like I shouldn’t have even made the comment.
My wifes 2012 Jeep Liberty Jet Limited is still going strong 12 yrs later with almost 100k miles. 30 years of many Toledo built Jeeps with no problems & enjoyed all of them.🎉
Basically, if money is no worries to you and neither is spending money on repairs, but you want to be comfortable, than this is your buy. Or if you want to lease it for 3 years and do it in style. Other than that it will be nice to see how this thing ages. If the Pacifica is any future indicator.... It's not looking good.
Very complete review, this guy goes into a lot of detail. If someone us going to buy this vehicle, they would be well served to watch this
Not really
That Lexus in the background will outlast this thing by so much 😬😂 great vid as always
Toyota found this out their new Tundra has no V8 and their turbo 6 cyl engines are blowing up left ,right and center..Toyota Tundra is the least reliable new truck as 2023 they just had the turbo 6 cyl that fails to this day!
Agreed 100% brother and it has a V8 as well unlike these overpriced modern SUVs.
@mypronouniswtf5559 Agreed, Toyota should've never got rid of the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Tundra, that V8 engine will outlast any EcoBoost engine with ease.
Toyota is not as reliable as you may think. And, Toyota's in general are meh to drive. I rather enjoy the drive than worry if it'll be with me in 20 years because to be honest, why would I want a 20 year old meh vehicle?
Ah, yes the excitement of breaking down all the time. It’s just what I need for a fulfilling life!
Speaking if plastic on coolant hoses. Dorman finally came out with a aluminum coupling for the 2012 Toyota RAV4 with the 2.5 where the plastic coupling always breaks near the engine block where the radiator hose starts and the little bypass hose goes to a coolant pipe. Now I won't have to worry about that breaking again. Wish Toyota would have made that metal to begin with.
The Ford Panther Platform's from 2003-2011 had the power seat switch on the driver's door and depending on trim or model it was also on the passenger door as well. I think its more convenient, especially for the elderly, to have the seat adjustment switch on the front door card.
My 1996 Grand Marquis has them on both the driver's and passenger door. I think they went to that on the 1995 models.
$123k of turbocharged planned obsolescence.
An inline six -
(Jeep 4.0, 2JZ, Ford inline six) that is well maintained and naturally aspirated will last for decades. The infotainment & leather are useless when the engine blows up.
26 psi of boost! if that electric pump for the intercooler quits, you'll burn a hole through a piston before you even know there is a problem!
The engine is a hell of a lot of fun until that happens tho 😅
yeah the Toyota Twin Turbo v6 tops out at 15 PSI of boost I think. In my sequioa I rarely have more than 5 psi of boost even when accelerating
@@kingofthesofas is your sequoia hybrid ? Probably hybrid system perpells it move as well, so less stress on turbos
@@manjotsandhu9539 yep all the new sequioas are hybrids. That's why I think pairing a hybrid with the turbo is the way to go and will probably make them engine last way longer overall. The hybrid batteries in them are pretty proven tech and can easily go 300k+ miles based on other hybrids if you take care of them.
If this was an actual SRT made engine (or aftermarket project even) that 26 psi would be awesome.
Being an adopted engine from the rest of the gang across the pond, it is concerning lol
I recently rented a Chrysler mini van, I don’t remember the model, but it had a good number of miles on it. I drove it about 200 miles, I was pleasantly surprised, it was fairly quiet, it rode nicely, it didn’t have a bunch of squeaks and rattles, the stereo sounded pretty good and it was fairly comfortable.
What year?
@@johnhoover7869if it was a rental probably a newer voyager or Pacifica
Wait until 40k. Death trap. I had one.
They are good ,, as a rental .
Rented a almost new town & country, 5 days later , need it replace with another even lower mileage one , not safe to drive becoz it was shaking ,
Then the next 18 days , no problem at all .
Drive smooth ,
Good power ,
Total miles driven was 12,000 + km's , in 24 days .
Would rent them again , always .
I bought a 2018 Pacifica new, a Touring Plus for $28,5 out the door. Leather, Stow n go, equipped nicely. They all have the 3.6. Anyway, I drive a TON as a service engineer, and need space for all my tools- pickups honestly cost too much for the not-so-great average fuel economy. I've serviced it at every recommended interval, changed the oil every 7,500 miles, and currently have 288,470 miles on the odo. Outside of all the recommended maintenance, fluid & filter changes, I've had the struts replaced at 100k, and again at 212k(the factory ride is amazing for those long distance slogs, so I make sure to keep it riding perfect), also front end bushings at 212k. I've had tie rods done at 100k, and 212k. Ball Joints at 150k, will likely need them at 300k again. Brake job once so far at 150k. Alternator died at 192k, exhaust has been replaced once just shy of 250k. I had the timing chain service done at 150k- it wasn't making noise or running poorly, its just recommended by 120k so I ended up just getting it taken care of then. Everything still looked good, so this time around I'm waiting until 300k to have it done again. I also had the Bluetooth module go bad at 76k miles, replaced under warranty. Has been fine since. That is everything in a nutshell.
The 3.6 V6 has been solid, as has the entire powertrain. I feel preventative maintenance is crucial if you want any vehicle to last- and as I'm meticulous on getting my vehicles serviced, I've never had a "bad" vehicle from any manufacturer. Chrysler products tend to be bought by lower income or credit-challenged buyers alot of the time, many of whom beat the hell out of their vehicles and only ever have maintenance performed when something breaks. Same goes for routine fluid changes- lots go without, and you end up with vehicles that are used up by 100k miles. That's just how it goes unfortunatley.
I was at the dealership yesterday looking at full size SUV's...... even the car salesman personalty approached me and said "don't even think about the Jeep Wagoneer it is SO full of electrical problems, they are constantly returned for warranty work and can never fix the problems correctly, they are built like crap"....... hearing that was enough for me lol
It is so bad that you don't want your enemy to suffer from it
This jeep thingy is against the Geneva convention
Similarly I had a client who works at FCA in the software side. States he rather take a less complicated Grand Cherokee than any of the Wagoneers, and explicitly told to stay clear of the Hurricane Inline 6 until they figure out the details.
Every car done had recall smh in you listen to him is sad
FCA Made a big mistake doing away with the Hemi. My Ram has one, and Im keeping it until the wheels fall off. No turbos naturally aspired.
You can thank your government for that. I'm sure FCA would love to be able to keep the Hemi.
@@ytj22 Your right Amercans made a big mistake by electing Biden...
Thank the fools who kept voting Dem.
Agreed. The hurricane MIGHT end up being a solid engine, but the 5.7 is reliable (assuming you delete MDS) and parts are everywhere and it still makes decent power and torque while getting solid gas mileage for a 400hp V8.
@@BrowningateWell, there are retards that are doing that, but imagine voting actually mattering in 2024.
Credit to Stellantis for the backup systems to get out of park. On GM vehicles they have the same issue where park is the default when the engine isn't running. But unlike Stellantis, in order to manually get it out of park you have to crawl under it and use a special tool to get it to neutral.
True I saw a tow truck trying to tow a Chevy truck 2024 with a blown motor saying the engineer who designed that feature needs to be fired 😂😂😂
Stellantis knows their vehicles require many tow truck situations so this is a must
@@ozarkliving7263 Im not so sure anymore about how unreliable their cars are anymore considering they have allowed the ZF transmission in all of their line ups. There has also been a lot of brand revivals going on and I wouldn't count them out of the race for reliability concern just yet. Hell Ive seen my fair share of Grand Caravans with stupid high mileage and very little maintenance required to get there. The new engine could become a problem with it being new but then again its a I6, something that has been done for so long that you kind of have to intentionally fuck up to fuck it up.
Absolutely agree. Almost all cars will break down at some point in time. To have the GM system where you have to crawl under the car to get it out of park and use a special tool is borderline criminal IMO.
@@Crunchymunchys well millions of dismal used car prices of Stellanis products say your assessment is likely incorrect. I know dozens of families personally whose experience with Dodge/Chrysler has been a nightmare. Like a blind squirrel occasionally finding a nut, a few Stellanis vehicles turn out to be only a partial nightmare.
A lady on a Sequoia FG group just announced herself with the shocking fact that Jeep is buying back a second wagoneer from her! Shes done with Jeep, now looking for a Toyota/Lexus as a result.
My 2023 wagoneer was lemoned at 3 months of ownership, went through 2 new hurricane engines.
Funny until you realize Toyota truck engines are dying en masse
losing the V8 was a huge mistake
Agreed--keep the 6.4 Hemi!
The turbo engines to try and compensate for the power of a v8 just don't hold up. No matter what they try and do with it. The reliability goes down every time you add a turbo to any engine.
Everyone wants a V8 in a big vehicle, but they’re not listening. They’re going to keep pushing these crappy turbo charged throwaway engines. I’m going to keep fixing my V8 vehicle until I can’t fix it anymore. I want nothing to do with modern vehicles anymore.
It’s because of BS government and EPA regulations. Won’t be long before they tax the hell out of you for even owning a car or truck with a V8
@@mplslawnguy3389only because the government is forcing them to meet unrealistic emissions standards
Best tech reviews on RUclips. You are up there with 2 other channels.
Can you review the Tundra competition at some point? F150, Sierra, etc.
tradesman? get a commercial truck. Else get a tacoma.
You’re describing that engine like it’s a small heart in a 310lb man. High blood pressure, but a freight train of hurt. Fun, but short and pricey life…. 😞
Why couldn’t they dig deep in its roots like the AMC 4.0?
cause it’s old as hell and the whole engine will have to be redesigned
@@StockCarGuy This 3.0 is more than redesigned. It’s a whole new platform! Direct injection carbon build up is like plaque growing in your coronary arteries. Twin turbos = high performance or high blood pressure. Ownership dies of a heart attack from shop repairs… 🔥💵🔥
I can't stop looking at the black Supra on top!! That has lasted over 25 years, is still an amazing car and it's worth more than when it was purchased!!
If they could really well insulate the engine compartment the 6.7L I6 Cummins Turbo Diesel Engine would be a super interesting option for this 6,428lb truck.
A heavy duty excursion like 2500 suv would be great.
Now we're talking about a real, heavy-duty truck engine. I still wouldn't trust the build quality. Stellantis is a terrible company. Their quality control is non-existent. They tend to rush into production without testing for problems first.
That sounds a bit more appealling but still its a Stellantis product.
@@jaimieconroy36good thing Cummins has abaolutely nothing to do with Stellantis and their ownership umbrella. I swear, people just associate anything thats in a chrysler/FCA/stellantis w.e product with being MADE by them. Their 8 speed transmission is a ZF unit full stop and guess what? Its more reliable than pretty much ANY Jatco craopy toyota made CVT or Ford/GM made abomination. Same goes for the ISB Cummins engines and even more so for the older 5.9 12v Cummins I6. Just because its in a car from a company you dont like doesnt mean it was MADE by that company. No one builds all their vehicles completely in house anymore.
When Car Care Nut starts hemming and hawing about a high strung engine, it is easy to not waste time looking further.
These thorough analysis reviews are really valuable.
Best auto reviews available..bar none!!
Low range is really nice at the boat ramp - especially with heavy boats and wet, slick ramps.
JEEP stands for Just Expect Every Problem.
😂 Haven’t heard that one before. But quite appropriate
VS Just Empty Every Pocket
@@Caliber50bmg Also apropos
If its got a hurricane it sure does
Junk Engineering Executed Poorly
The one thing that was amazing on this vehicle when I test drove one at the MKE auto show last year was the center gauge display showing night vision. They made a great vehicle.
Very impressive vehicle and an excellent overview by you. I opted for reliability and durability. I bought a 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport. I paid $5K for it 3 years ago. I'm happy with it.
If you’d opted for reliability and durability, you’d be driving a 4 Runner or Sequoia.
Glad to hear it. The XJ Cherokee have a great reputation.
So I can't speak for the stellantis i6 but the Ford Ecoboost V6 motors are definitely not stressed. In fact, they are heavily detuned if anything. Take for instance the 3.0L... it produces 400 bhp but with the stock motor and all stock internals and nothing but bigger turbo setup and larger intercooler, people can pump them up over 600 whp easily and still be daily driver reliable. Most of these new 6 cylinder turbo engines are so heavily overbuilt.
How come Chrysler and Jeep products are always at the bottom of the list when it comes to reliability.
Every single time
Exactly
DEI “engineers”, DEI QC folks. Just a horrific company
My jeep has 288k miles without major issues, but I do take care of it
Same can be said for a ton of vehicles that aren't maintained
@@Tallnerdyguy even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while
Re seat controls: the Ford Panther platform (the Crown Vic, the Mercury Grand Marquis and Marauder, the Lincoln Town Car) had them on the door.
Cars like this last as long as that air suspension. To replace it usually costs more than the car is worth.
Just another disposable car for the rich
It can be converted to a conventional suspension set-up to avoid a costly re-build.
I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee Limited with air suspension, 114,000 miles and 12 years old in April with no problems yet, still rides like a dream. Rear suspension has separate air bags and shocks but the front has combo struts, $1800 EACH. Ouch!
Rear air suspension is like $100 to fix. Ask me how I know. Replaced both at 130k. Takes 10 minutes total
130K miles on a 2024 Jeep Grand Wagoneer. Wow. you really ran up the mileage fast.
With both exhaust running directly under the transmission fluid pan I think that I would change the fluid more than recommended due too the heat. Most of these ridiculous vehicles will be hogging up streets here in Los Angeles with only the driver in the vehicle. .
I've been driving jeeps for the last 2 decades and oh my lord this thing is massive.
It’s a pleasure to drive too
For me considering its overpriced for the average buyer and no Hemi V8 I'll stick to my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 160,000 miles on it and still going strong.
Can anyone imagine these tablets actually lasting 10 years 😂😂😂😂
Excellent, useful, thoughtful and thorough overview. Covering all aspects of the vehicle, including the technical aspects, in a straightforward, understandable, way. Thank you and well done!
Jeep must be a mechanic's dream to make money on repairs.
Too lazy to put a iPad in there
0:01 I thought it was a prank with a tiny kid substituting in the intro 😂
U-connect has always been my favorite for MANY years.
When it works
As always, I really enjoy your videos. One thing I noted on this one was how many times you commented on the size of the vehicle. Even though at the end you stated that you really liked full-sized American SUVS. please remember there are some of us really appreciate/need the full size if we are to be truly comfortable. My self, I’m 6’ 5” tall, kind of long in the torso and broad shouldered. You would be amazed at what I don’t fit in any longer. Thanks.
The old straight 6 4 L that Jeep had they should have stayed with. Lots of torque and long life.
My Dad had a 61 Jeep pickup. In line 6 cylinder L6-226 Flathead engine. 3 speed manual trans 4 wheel drive (the real mechanical twin stick kind, not the ABS type). The rear different had the Limited Slip that worked great until you drove it in the snow in 2 Wheel Drive.
When he said in line 6, he had my attention.
Your father's Jeep was an actual Jeep. This overpriced attention getter is a soon to be failure at a humongous price. Jeep lost its dependability in the very early 80's. They've been bought out by a few companies in hope to sell the true Jeep name with a non Jeep vehicle.
Coming to a hood near you in 2040.
Move over escalade
Fr new hood car, plus they can afford it witb their insanely low credit score in about 5 years time, this thing will have lost like 75% of its value 😂
Nah none of them will last until 2040, probably not even 2030...
Disgustingly disrespectful racist individuals shame on you
42:55 I didn’t really realize it until you demonstrated all of the seats folded down that the center console with display doesn’t make much sense.
They could have easily integrated the HVAC controls into the display itself behind each one of the front seats
Better yet: they could’ve done what Tesla did in the 24’ model 3 and put an HVAC control system on the back of the front center console which we already know won’t be folding down. Then you’d have been able to fold down all of the rear seats flat.
My grandma used to have the classic... I would love to own this but not at .1 million dollars.😅😅
And then with covid 26 they will be 1000% mark up price @Countcho
It costs over .0001 million dollars for a McDonalds value meal these days, it’s not as much money as it seems.
@@CountchoFCA throws away cars in recessions it’s a little amusing. I remember 10 or 12 years ago you could buy a base patriot for like 9 or 10 grand brand new 😂
I'll take one for free
My sister in law works for a jeep dealer in Florida. They warranty transmissions in these on every other one they sell. Constant warranty work on these new ones.
That thing probably has more chips than Mission Control at NASA.
Haha yeah, these machines are just overengineered, overdone
And shine his face upon you brother. Great review 🎉🎉
But will it get you out of Micky D's drive thru
I saw this video and is more technical than any other reviewers out there, I love the way you showcase the vehicle, new follower here man
$100k for unproven new model/new engine? Hard pass - we keep our cars for at least 10 years or more - not gonna roll those dice.
Nobody’s keeping cars for more than 5-6 years 😂
@@naveenthemachine I do.
I do.
Just discovered your channel, as someone that rebuilds old cars it’s so great to get a technical overview of the new stuff!
Thanks for sharing your expertise
Buy a new clean sheet engine design by Stellantis? No way! What are the odds that it makes 100K miles without replacing a head gasket or a turbo or two.
Who said it was a clean sheet? It's an evolution of the 4 cylinder Fiat engine...not that that is better.
@@richsarchet9762 Oh yes, Italian engineering with French input, what could possibly go wrong?
Didn’t watch the video, so I’m not sure if it was mentioned, but whenever I’ve gotten behind one of these since they came out, always noticed the right side, tail light and trim assembly didn’t line up between the fender and the deck lid. Love the old ones , don’t think much of this design.
As an owner of 2022 model I have to admit that the infotainment system becomes pretty glitchy with time. CarPlay often stops connecting, you have to remove the phone, add it back, then CarPlay appears in a day or two. The memory/profile settings get lost and messed up, the screen can restart by itself in a cycle and so on and so forth. Obviously, the service department doesn’t know anything about those things.
Other than that, it’s a great giant vehicle, we really have a lot of fun with it. Turning heads guaranteed :)
I'm a Chrysler tech and can say yeah radio is glichy. There is a new tsb that came out for radio update but it's placed on hold so we don't have much information when we can get the update or it maybe even a Ota update.
People are laughing at you. Sadly, you are advertising your lack of knowledge about vehicular reliability
@@djoj1986thanks! I also have to say that modern software sucks in general meaning not only at Jeep, Chrysler etc
@@ozarkliving7263 this comment is for whom?
Man, a lot things to go south under that hood
Yep agreed 100% brother
Wow, All those cavities & gaps around the wheel wells are a *perfect* spot to keep all my salt & debris in the *winter* so I can turn it into rust *in the summer.* & Do it every year afterwards too. Nice! Props to Mopar for remembering how we enjoy that premature depreciation. Very thoughtful, Boys.
Can salt your burgers etc on bbq
To be fair, that underbody protection you see on other cars do technically be add-ons when you look at the configurators......
Which does make seeing none here odd af!
I wonder what the benefit was for engineering to keep the exhaust in two pipes for so much of that huge exhaust run. I'm frankly shocked that accounting didn't call out that cost and win. Seems like so much simpler and lighter to just dump into one pipe from the cat back.
our dealer cant move these....we sold 4 since they came out.....no one wants to pay over 100k for a jeep....not in canada atleast
Congrats A on another GREAT look at things that really need lookin at👍!
Im surprised the regular version doesn't have forged rods considering its a small 3.0 making over 400hp.
I came across your video and I am glad that I did! This is by far one of the most detailed review of a vehicle that I have seen on RUclips. It is to the point, there is no background music interfering either the review and you appear to be very competent in your field. I will definitely subscribe to view other reviews that you have posted. Keep up the good work!
How in the world can Stellantis justify a price tag of $123k. 😳
They can because it’s not about the brand. It’s about the car. The car itself is fantastic
Stellantis management read P.T. Barnum's observation that "There's a sucker born every minute."
What a sharp looking unit.
My 2021 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk (N/A 3.2L) lasted a whole 14k miles before 9 lifters failed. At 20k miles the PTU was on its way out. There's no way I'd buy another Jeep. Life lesson learned.
I remember the 1980s. Basically every American car was like that - breaking down on a regular basis because of catastrophic design flaws that always required lots of expensive repairs to fix. The Renault Alliance Encore my dad had for a while was even worse. Our 1986 Nissan Stanza Wagon had a lot of miles when we got it and a few issues of it's own but was a big step up in terms of reliability. It at least made it to 100K miles before it started stranding us on the side of the road. Having a car that was reliable for a least a while was a game changer.
j0e j0e b. gave Jeep the kiss of death by them promoting him.
True dat. Jeep (and high powered) Dodge/Ram were Stellantis’ best shots, and they buried both with rediculous pricing and shoddy quality. They used to be hit or miss with quality… Now it seems miss or miss.
BMW uses a secondary cooling circuit for the turbo as well. To elaborate on what you said about the new engine trend one thing I've noticed about the smaller, particularly turbo engines is they do great in smaller cars, but then they put them into SUVs they are overburdened and start to have problems. A good example is when gm put the cobalt engine in the equinox
100k ++ for a Jeep.. 🥴Managed to price themselves right out of their original customer base.
Lol everyone is going into debt for a car now days so it doesn't even matter
That's kind of the point of a new model, attract new customers.
You did a great job reviewing this vehicle. 👍
Waiting on the new Lexus GX 550 review!
Laggy main screen skipping touches? Capacitance button could be even worse than on screen ones. Someone’s really into love with this.
“In their defense They used a really nice font”. Great quote
I do not see Stellantis surviving in the US in about 15 years from now. Ram and Jeep sales won’t be able to keep them afloat.
I disagree. They are also a large manufacturer in EU
In the 39 years my wife and I have been married. We have bought a few new vehicles. The common problem has been intermittent issues thare typically connectors and the seating of a connector in the plug or electric block. I have helped friends resolve problems too. Any brand, and model will have this problem. Just buy the most basic trim level you feel comfortable with of the vehicle you like. All brands have these problems. But having air bags are asking for trouble. They work fine on tractor trailers, but not on cars!
Would you be able to do a review on the new 2025 Toyota Camry?
I love the breakdown of the vehicle from a mechanics perspective. I have a much better understanding of how this new engine works and what could cause issues in the future. Great work!
nice , the L long body ..its a 3 row luxury family school bus needs opt 4th row jump seats for large utah families , I had a 88 grand wagoneer v8, 95 grand Cherokee I-6 , this is only a name , did go test drive one the magic is still there with the short wheelbase and inline I-6 , how long will this in line I-6 last ? it should of went into the other jeeps and ram trucks those buyers put a lot more miles on them, as if I paid $115k and it spent time in the shop id be pis off
I'd buy the one that came with the 6.4 hemi and it sounds better too!!!
Those seats look so luxurious! Chunky headrests
You will be in the lap of luxury waiting for the tow truck
11 mph… I was complaining about 21mpg on the Pilot…. I’m glad I bought the Honda
This one is based on the Hurricane 2.0 4 banger in the Wrangler JL
You explaining the engine components alone is probably why Chrysler and Jeep have one of the most unreliable ratings compared to the competition! 😅
Working at an auto auction and we get these way more than the GM sisters & expedition/navigator... just food for thought
AMD, I am relieved to see your hoist is strong enough to hold this up. 😉🤣
we are a toyota family thru and thru, but i had a chance to rent this exact car in the limited trim version....i told my wife, i would buy this SUV hands down...the best one ive driven
I hope you did your homework seeing others that are a few years old that have any problems long term. Id lease it vs buying
You are crazy then.
The cylinder surfaces is coatet with Teflon.
Will this help make your suv disposable?
Very small displacement engine at 3 liters.
Should only make about 200 horspower for reliability. Those 2 crutchie turbochargers gonna beat the crap out of that engine.😂
Chrysler should use the toyota v8 engine in the wagoneer and I would be very interested.
@@Terry-p7tToyota retired v8 in 2024
Genius 🙄
Love your reviews! Keep up the great work.