Doing so many of these long takes in one cut really speaks to your expertise. I don't have a serious interest in most of the cars you've reviewed in this series, but I still watch because of your attention to detail. Thank you for your hard work!
I did almost 800 miles nonstop on my 23 Jeep GCL overland with 3.6 V6. It was packed with 4 adults, a toddler and 4 large suitcases along with stroller. It was raining heavily for at least 400 miles. I never felt underpowered or unsafe while cruising at 65-75 MPH given the visibility. It clocked 24 MPG. The drive was so smooth that my little one slept for most part of the journey. I had a 2008 BMW 328i, 2019 Cherokee, and 2022 RAV4. After putting 12000 miles in less than 6 months, I have decided to keep this Jeep as long it can run.
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala It is, because it is a lie. 23 gallon tank, 26 mpg =600 miles of range. Add in a full interior with people and stuff, and efficience is even lower. Typical lying Jeep owner, trying to justify their $100,000 purchase.
Yes@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala. We started early morning from Atlanta, GA and reached Dallas, TX by the sunset, with a refill/refreshment break of 20-30 minutes at Shreveport, LA. Now, at 16000 Miles and still going strong.
Well@@user-de4jk8vj4c, you may have your reasons to hate Jeep, and that's ok. I did not put $100K, I got mine at around $62K. We took a refill/refreshment break at Shreveport, LA for 20-30 minutes. I sold my 2022 RAV4 in less than 6 months so need not to justify anything.
"The engine is old and underpowered" 5th gen 4Runner has entered the chat. I drove a previous gen Grand it the 3.6/8spd, it felt like a rocket compared to my 4Runner, I was doing nearly 80mph before I knew it. It belongs to my brother, he wanted me to test drive it because he thought he felt a driveline vibe. I said I don't think I can help you, this thing drives SO much smoother than my 4R.
The difference is that the 1GR stood the test of time. It’s bulletproof. You can’t say that about the Jeep’s V6. Also look at the interior build quality starting @ 22:32, this won’t be happening in any 4runner. Lastly the 4runner is a body on frame vehicle that can go anywhere and handle abuse. The Grand Cherokee is unibody and not really built for off-roading.
@@electrikoptik Toyota fan-boy spotted. 🤣My dude... Please learn a thing or two about cars. The Pentastar has been in a TON of vehicles and has been absolutely solid. You can virtually call the Pentastar bullet-proof. And a Toyota guy is ragging on Jeep's interior quality?!?! That's a hoot. Toyota's are GARBAGE on the interiors (and that extends to Lexus'). Cheap, rattly, poorly built. This new Grand Cherokee is shit, to be sure. But it's just as shit as the crap Toyota's been churning out for the past decade (at least).
@@cw4623 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 everything about Fiat jeep is pure trash compared to a Toyota except in horsepower. Especially one built in Japan like the 4Runner. Cheap interior? Simple, yes, cheap no. You must be a fan of plastic wood and piano black finishes. 🤣 Don’t ever compare your fiat trash to a jdm when it comes to longevity or build quality.
So was the 3cyl out of a Geo Metro if you want to go to the "aviation engine" route. I'll take a Toyota over most but your logic needs checked. Example, Hyundai makes great cargo ships yet that also does not translate to a history of automotive greatness.@@dbonilla29869
Yes but if you don’t maintain they become a nightmare pretty fast. They also like to leak oil not a terrible engine but definitely not the best on the market.
I have had 5 Jeep Grand Cherokees. I currently have a 22 JGC Altitude. I have always appreciated the design , capability and driving dynamics and comfort. I never had any issues and absolutely love me new model. My Jeeps have always served me well and got me through many snowstorms.
The real question is, 5 jeeps over the course of how many years! 😝 If you lease them for 4 years, the your perception of Jeep is different than someone who purchased one and attempted to keep it 10+ years.
@@theminicooper the answer is don't make ignorant assumptions. At least l know Minis will be in the shop in about an hour after leaving the dealership? ☺️
@@bigjoe330 There is literally no assumptions in my previous comment 😆 And yes, Minis are indeed a load of crap! Cost me a lot of money to find it out! Same as with Jeep 🥰
@@theminicooperLOL….you’re THAT guy who actually bought a Mini Cooper 😂 And then you question someone else’s choice and experience of owning their brand of car. LOL….whatever you say Mini.
I bought a 2023 Jeep GC Altitude edition in this red velvet color back in October 2022. We now have 31,000 miles on the odometer and it has been trouble free from day 1. First three oil changes were paid for by Chrysler and one recall to repair the boots holding the rear springs. I love the 3.6 engine as I had a 2016 Chrysler 200C with the 3.6 and she gave me 140,000 miles of trouble free driving. Traded her in on the new Jeep GC. MPG on the Jeep has been 23.1 average which for the size of the vehicle is very acceptable. The engine does not consume any oil between the appx 9500 mile interval for changing out for new fluids. Overall we are 95% happy with our new Jeep. Only disappointment is the paint chips very easily off the front end from road debris.
I have the V-6 Pentastar in my Ram 1500, but it has the e-torque system. It is used as a work truck for the most part. It is pretty quick on take off and it passes other cars well. I have never thought of it as slow. It's certainly quick enough for a pickup truck and gets up to speed very well. Now it replaced a Toyota Tacoma 4 banger with an automatic transmission. Now that truck was slow. I often felt I should open the door and use my left foot to help it get up hills.
My wife bought a 2021 L new with this engine, has about 25k now. Drove it 4k miles in one trip with three adults and three kids last summer. No issues besides at first wireless Android Auto dropping the connection but that was fixed with a software update. Had a tow hitch receiver put on to get some extra storage in the back via basket, and also put on roofrack crossbars. It seems pretty jumpy to me not slow at all and can easily pass other cars, but individual cars can vary. Enjoy driving it when I take it out. Great car overall. We'll end up keeping it
I’ve been driving Jeep brand vehicles since 1994. I currently own a Grand Cherokee and a Wrangler Rubicon. I’ve had no issues with my Jeeps. I make sure the maintenance is regularly done. LOVE my Jeeps!
I've own a 2002 GC since new. At 190,000 miles it still runs great and looks great. Nothing s been replaced except fluids, a serpentine belt, a vacuum hose, and brake pads
I've got a JGC 1999 Laredo 4.0L the no frills version. It has got electric windows. It has been the faithful work horse, with 197,000klm on the clock. Replaced alternator (which it didn't really need, it was actually a faulty new battery that was causing non starts) crank sensor and front control arms. Cheers from Australia 🦘
AMD is a natural teacher, he has the ability to explain the complex in an easy to understand way. Love these technical reviews from a Master Tech, a quality real-world review is not all about soft touch surfaces but what to expect over long-term ownership. Shows how fast auto technology is moving when he mentions 2016 (7 years ago) as dated/ancient engine design tech.
I rented this suv for a road trip and fell in love with it. Lets face it, these days car manufacturers are trying to cut costs anywhere they can so every car on the market is going to have its flaws. The comfort level is great and ride quality is also quiet and good. The technology in this engine is old but doesnt mean its bad. The Engine having old tech i understandable. Port injection has worked for decades and its a refined system. I guess you can easily say. If it aint broke, dont fix it. Nice review over all. The battery location really threw me off. Theres enough space in the engine bay for a battery. Oh well 🤷♂️
The button is on the side so that kids and smaller adults can reach it. So, you are picking up a child at sports, they can dump their gym bag and close themselves. I'm not sure that was the intention - but that is how it works out for us.
That's a great point! Also, I find it more efficient to put stuff in the cargo area and hit the button while rounding the corner towards drivers door. Only my right arm is under the hatch to close it, instead of my whole body. Also, you are already close to the button after loading cargo area, so it is less body movement to push button as your already next to it. Small detail, but more efficient, in my opinion, as I do not have to stop moving towards drivers door as I push the button to close hatch.
Chrysler minivans have the button on the side down low for the same reason. Short women and children who can't reach a button high in the air on the bottom of the hatch/liftgate.
He’s reviewing a Laredo Altitude which is very close to a base model Laredo. The interior materials are completely different in the Overland, Summit and Summit reserve trims. Also the plastic around the wheel-wells, is painted on those trim levels.
We bought a 2024 Grand Cherokee L overland a few weeks ago! So far we love it! its not underpowered at all actually the opposite feels pretty peppy! We really enjoy riding in it I do recommend it to a family of 5 or 6! Happy new year!!! Ours has the 3.6 with an 8 speed transmission.
We are buying the GC Limited this week. We were happy with the performance on the test drive. Wife only lives 1 mile or so from work so should be pretty reliable long term. I have a Wrangler and have never had issues with it. It is a 2017. The new GC we are getting is a 24. 25 didn't offer the color she wanted. Midnight Blue.
I have an in-line 6 4.0 Larado 2WD purchased new in 2001. It has 230K so far and consumes virtually no oil every 4K miles. Everything still works, including the CD and cassette player. Still used as a around town driver but I purchased a new 4Runner SR5 4WD in 2019 that we use for vacations basically.
The key to this Jeep is oil changes. I’ve owned several and never had issues at 100k. The transmission is also solid. Compared to my Tacoma it got better fuel mileage and didn’t have timing phaser issues like my Toyota. The key is oil changes. They did screw up the tuneup situation because the motor is definitely set too far back. Overall I think it’s a decent SUV without the needless complications of turbos and cylinder deactivation that Honda and other companies use today.
@@thomasward00 yeah well the new Hondas can’t make it to that bar without head gasket issues. My 2013 Tacoma needed phasers and a timing chain at 80k while my LX 470 runs like a sewing machine at 300k. New tech is not better tech. Emission systems and turbos are both reduce the life of a lot of engines. The key is oil changes and regular maintenance. No company is perfect but I’m just saying my Jeeps have been very reliable unlike my Mercedes and my Toyota and finally my new Honda Motorcycle which is still at the dealership waiting on warranty work.
I watched the whole video, based on what I saw this truck is a mechanic's nightmare. I'd lease one for three years, then throw the keys back. Stellantis went into these thinking let's make repair and maintenance as expensive as possible. The Porsche/Audi/BMW style engineering goes along great with their ridiculous pricing. People forgot what a real Jeep is, real Jeeps were originally meant to be taken apart and put back together rather quickly during wartime. This is just leaseable junk.
Having owned and loved 3 JGCs, the fit and finish and that piano black center setup(got to always put a towel over that area when the sun angle hits hit) does leave a lot to be desired: but the seat comfort, quietness , power and ride trumps all of me. The open/close button location is most helpful for disabled folks. Excellent report. Thanks!
@@greghale717 Idk, I looked at a couple other car brands and they only offered a black interior and at most 3-5 exterior colors. And a couple of the colors were a couple hundred more in cost.
I just hit 20k miles on my 22 GC limited. There is nothing under powered about it and it gets amazing fuel economy for its size. I made it a point to never reset the MPG indicator. I've averaged 24.4 mpg in mixed driving over those 20k miles. I love it, and the limited trim delivers great bang for your buck.
@breacher73 my personal feeling is this that the overland price opens it up to direct competition with luxury brands and I'm just not convinced it would hold up against them. For $65k-$70k I'd more than likely be looking at a BMW X5.
Bought a new 2024 GC this summer. Awesome vehicle, very comfortable, super quiet on the road, 21 MPG, V6, 4X4, Plenty of power. We love it. No complaints, so far. Out the door, with tag, title, and taxes; $29,890.00. Tell me where you can find another 4X4 V6 loaded SUV for that price today (November, 2024).
@@faheemabbas3965too many dummies keep buying them. you really can’t feel sympathy for people who proudly spend a huge fraction of their money on a pile of crap
I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee 3.6 rn and, while im fully aware its no sports car, its never felt slow when i need to pass someone. You're definitely right about the ZF 8-Speed being the saving grave though 👍. Plus i love all the extra space up front in the engine bay to work in!
I have owned 5 since 1993 great vehicles,2 have been handed down to family members! All 6 cylinders,change the oil ,do required maintenance and they last forever!
My JGC 07 Laredo V6 3.7 4WD just surpassed 223K. She still runs amazing no noises no funny smells no ringing no dingdong sounds no oil leaks I’m always on top of preventative maintenances and she never left me stranded ever. I’ll run her till the wheels falls off then maybe I’ll pick up one of these down the line when it’s used w 40K miles in it 😇
Same here 07 2wd v6 3.7 205k miles rebuilt transmission 5yrs ago runs smooth no issues so far an properly maintained , if it dies just have new motor replacement to it an keep on Jeep'n
On my 3rd GJ all with Pentastar, no complaints, the AGM battery under the seat has lasted 10 plus yrs in first 2, not exposed to heat under the hood helps. Solid platform, good performance.
My 21 WL limited with the 3.6L. Has been a solid vehicle since we purchased it new in 7/21. The 3.6l was actually introduced in the 2011 WK of which I also had one new. 3 Grand Cherokees ago. The 3.6 L. Has been 100% solid on every grand Cherokee Iv had A 13 year old engine design is far from old. The 3.6 has been updated since 2011.
@@rhiiine It's really a good engine. I just wouldn't push oil changes past 5000 miles. I still do them at 3000 k. Any potential 3.6 issues always seems to be people who did 7,500-10k oil change intervals.
I have had this car since 2021, and it is a fantastic car. Mechanically, it is excellent, very potent in all-wheel drive with 0 mechanical issues till now(21000 miles). It is a fast car as well…for its dimension! I don’t know why this guy says it is slower than competition. It is wrong. Building quality is decent, not amazing, and not a problem in my case. It is way better than other Highlanders, Hyundays, Kias, etc. And by way…I bought it because….IS OLD SCHOOL! I don’t want turbo crap…means high-cost maintenance, maintenance only at the dealer, etc.
The dude is very biased, all he knows is Toyota and Japanese cars, you can tell, anything good about the GC he brushes over it like it’s nothing, and delays on the bad so much
@@MK3504: In these days, all manufacturers are making junk cars. There is no quality anymore. They want you to replace the car every 3 to 5 years. Look at the maintenance schedule in all cars, it tells you not to change transmission fluid till 150 k, and change engine oil every 7 to 10 k , and that’s how these cars fall apart and don’t last.
@@freddie3159That’s with almost all products now days it seems. One exception I’d say though is motorcycles, or Japanese supersport bikes (crotchrockets) in particular. You can beat the hell out of them and they just keep going.
I like this guy. I think his comments are generally fair and accurate and without fluff. However, complaining about the battery location is stretching it. Unusual location, yes. Difficult or problematic, no. Scoot the seat forward. Lift a panel. There's the battery. How much easier can it be. Maybe the location should be praised. A temperature controlled environment is surely better than putting it in the oven under the hood.
THIS is how a car review should be done! Especially given how expensive cars are today. Going in eyes open is the best for us, not whichever magazine pays the most. I would love to hear your thoughts on the 2023 Jeep Gladiator.
Very informative. I've been very happy with my 23 GC L. It hasn't felt underpowered at all to me. I thought the old school V6 was a plus. The transmission and engine combo makes this so smooth that shifts are sometimes totally imperceptible.
Agreed. He speaks about how horribly underpowered these are. I completely disagree. My '23 GC with 3.6L has plenty of power. He speaks about how "ancient" the engine is. Like 2016 was from the caveman days.
@@ejhirschberger no the only issue I’ve ever had is with the battery not charging enough due to short trips, and eventually it went dead or dead enough to keep the starter from coming on, and it had to be towed because it couldn’t be jumped with a jump pack. I’ve never had an issue with the radio at all or CarPlay.
it did happend to my 2022 GCL for 2 times. Funny thing is turning off the ignition doesn't really turn the raido off. Only long pressing the power button to truly reboot the system can resolve the issue. @@ejhirschberger
Yes. For USA-made cars the 3.6l (non-direct injected; non-turbocharged; not-so-complicated) engine is a benefit. My parents just bought their GC-L; it's fantastic. You sacrifice power and refinement for decent-ish fuel economy (for a 5,000lb 4x4), 87 octane, and no headaches. The ZF transmission is VERY busy in this SUV but works great with the engine; it never feels underpowered except if you REALLY floor it. It pulled our 5,000lb boat just fine; albeit a tad slow on acceleration. As for modern engine reliability; ask me how I know; my Ford 2.0l Turbo Direct injection engine needed a timing chain VVT phaser job AND Turbo/exhaust manifold job BOTH at 100k. $8,000 in repairs later; I will never buy another "modern" engine. It's old school or EV for me going forward. Turbo+DI (unless it has a Honda or Toyota badge on it) is crap long term and you can't convince me otherwise...
This was very informative, Thanks! I have a 2012 Jeep GC and the more I see of the newer vehicles, the more I want to keep the one I have. It has been fairly reliable and still comfortable to drive. Side note, it has the battery under the passenger seat, but isn't too difficult to change out, unlike say.. the ford escape where you have to remove the air box to even attempt a battery change.
I love wathcing your input. You are my bible on cars and I trust you deeply. This is my 3rd Overland. I just leased a new one, 4XE. Wanted to try the new Hybrid. So far, a real winner for me. It reminds me a Range Rover for the poor. Very comfortable, extrememly quite, ride is air, all around, the night riding is just right. The only negetive I have to say, you will need a level 2 charger, if you want to ride it electric, daily. Level 1 is just too slow of a charge. The sound system is like no other I have had in many years of riding. The size of the car is just right for the regular length, not L. I will not buy a car like that cause the Hybrid is very complicated and expensive to repair.
I have the small version not the l. Pentastar v-6 plenty of power 300 horse just under. 2023 for 45,000 out the door with a moonroof leather all safety devices black 20 inch rims and black headliner same color. On the highway I'm getting almost 30 mi to the gallon. I was shocked nothing's perfect but the price range nothing could touch it had at least three other Dodge Chrysler products with the pentastar no trouble thanks for your opinion this is mine!😊
regard the side rear gate closing button, it actually make sense to short people. The on the gate button is hard to reach for short people while the side button is much easier to operate.
Fantastic Review as always. I would love to see your input and review of the new 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander when you are able to. Keep up the great work. :)
These reviews are far more informative for a new car buyer than most other reviews. Not a fan of Stellantis products as they tend to have a lot of issues. Battery under passenger seat is insane...
I agree he gives us what we need to know especially mechanical this would actually make me buy one aside from the Battery thing. Port injection v6 reliable many many of them have 100sk miles
Actually my 2001 Buick LeSabre has its battery under the rear seat and it's perfectly great there. It's 100% vented and the battery is not exposed to excessive engine heat and other factors that would worry me more. Where do you think they put the batteries in a Tesla?
Mid 7 seconds 0-60 is very adequate- 293 hp from an NA V6 is more than competitive with its peers. I’ve owned 3 GC’s with the 3.6 and I’ve never been in a situation where I needed more power than what was available. There’s plenty of power in reserve if you need to quickly pass somebody or merge in front of fast traffic. This isn’t a race car, and doesn’t need race car power. People are wanting so much power they don’t need- it’s just a waste of fuel. Those of us not drag racing at every stop light will enjoy the smooth power delivery.
The thing with the pentastar is when it does make power it’s screaming at you. Even though it’s designed to be a screamer all day long it’s unnerving listening to its cry’s on the regular, a large SUV like this adds to the effect.
After 14 months I had no mechanical issue. only the screen turns off after a few minutes after closing the car. This car is comfortable to drive but it loses grip when you take an exit on 50 mph from the ramp. I recommend drive slowly.
At this point, the Pentastar V6 and ZF8 speed transmission in the Grand Cherokee is pretty much a bulletproof combination. And it's not at all underpowered. It also returns decent fuel economy for a 5000 lb SUV.
I like seeing these positive comments. I’m normally very selective when it comes to buying a vehicle, I did an internet search and bought the car in a few hours. I didn’t do my usual research. I knew it was an old school engine which I preferred. It’s good to hear it’s treating people well.
I have a 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee,and I absolutely love it. There is only 1. It’s a real SUV ,it’s not a crossover. It handles well and rides quiet and smooth.
I love the nuts and bolts of your reviews unlike other car reviewers' opinion and biases, they do a piss poor job because they don't know anything how a car works they just review stupidly but you are a mechanic and knows what is good and what is a nightmare objectively and used stats to back it up, thank you!
Hey Mr. Car care nut, I would really love if you could do a review on FORD EXPLORER, it’s a car that we are interested in and you are the most reliable person on RUclips for these kinds of thing, thank you.
We just traded in our 2017 ford explorer for the Grand Cherokee. Our ford explorer was doing fine until the water pump suddenly failed. It is. Common issue with ford explorers right as they reach 80-100k miles. It was 3000-5000 fix. We opted for a new car and traded it in. We did like the ford explorer. Great trunk space for having 3 rows.
How does the button for the rear hatch make no sense? It makes it easier for everyone, especially short people. You got 3 seconds to move outta the way. I’ve always thought this was a good idea.
Easier for my younger kids who I and the wife constantly send to get groceries from the back of the truck and this is so convenient for them who just stand in the side and press button instead of over reaching
Mechanically this is one of the few cars that I’d buy a reliable v6 with port zf trans and differential, looks really good this would actually be reliable.
Nah. It's not reliable. Come across countless bad engines. And even though the zf trans is good, the fact it's connected to a Chrysler makes any good qualities gone.
@@alainaguilar9938The transmission is actually a Chrysler built 850RE that’s used in the hybrid 4XE and V6. The V8 has the real ZF transmission called 8HP75
@@BigAltimaEnergy719 I mean some have their issues but there are 100s of RUclips videos that have 2-400k miles on them the trans goes out first usually. But
Thank you! I sat in one of these at a dealer a couple weeks ago and really liked it, but you covered things I never would have thought of. You may have saved me forty thousand dollars.
I had a 2001 GC with the reliable inline 6 that lasted 388k miles. Small valve leak and AC issue but the rest was problem free. Wife has a 2013 GC with the Hemi and by your standards it’s old. It’s been reliable also as well as the rest of the vehicle. Never had issues with jeeps and would buy another. Actually looking at a Grand Wagoneer series 3.
@@davidglad correct. Savage geese has a good library of videos. I'm more interested in the "engineering review" of the engine bay and underbody but a mechanic. I for one enjoy the relative ease of access in the engine bay.
Just bought a 2022 G C ALTITUD for my wife this Jeep is a beast we love it ,is Not underpower at all .this is the most powerfull SUV OR JEEP I ever drove .
Have a L limited with black package and i love it. I take care of my cars really well so 120k before serious repairs is the norm for me. This jeep with it's style, comfort and nimbleness just give these Jeep the edge in my opinion with the ability to go off road is the icing on the cake. Materials wise i have kids and they get scuffs on a lot of things so those plastics with fit me. They put the nice materials where it matters and that is on the dash area where it is soft to the touch.
To be honest, I have a JL with the 3.6 pentastar and it is by no means a slow car. I love my wrangler. It's quick and fun to drive. Looks like the pentastar is under power but when you try the car it is fast.
Exactly, I have a Overland L with a Hemi and it is waaayyyy better than this basic one. The Summit and Summit Reserve is even nicer! I also have a ‘18 JLU Rubicon with the 3.6, and it has been a great vehicle as well!
I have a 2008 Grand Cherokee with 272,000 miles on same motor and transmission with no repair. It has saved my life in three accidents. I also got the 2023 Limited L grand Cherokee and we love it. Jeep is not for everyone…as Toyota is not for everyone. I don’t like Toyota car designs. We all know you are little biased towards Toyota and Lexus. 😂.
He is a Toyota tech if it ain’t Toyota, it ain’t good, he should be honest, some dodge reviewers stick to dodge for what they know, same as ford or Chevy, but any good things about GC he barely mentions them. I think stick to what you know.
@@kinsmen1764 if Toyotas are so reliable why does he keep fixing them…including their engines. I have never had to repair the engines or transmissions of my Jeeps.
haha I agree, im sure he has some form of excuse for that. Currently my friend has a rented Toyota , it has very cheap unmatched plastic, like Toyota didn't even try or could care less@@engrxtn
On the rear hatch button located on the side, it is not a problem when you have short people. My wife is 5ft 6" and she would have a problem reaching the button if it was on the lift gate. Jeeps lift gates go up really high so tall people do not hit the heads on them. We also have a Nissan Murano and the lift gate is so low i get walking into it.
Thanks AMD for a very educational and informative video. I am not a Jeep fan but they do have their following for reasons you so deftly explained. Keep up the good work.
I have always liked the previous generation Grand Cherokees. Would really enjoy finding a nice used one, but so afraid of reliability/durability issues..
Yeah, that rotary shift switch is a no go for me as well. That cheap plastic interior reminds me of my 09 Camry. AMD did a thoughtful, objective report on this vehicle. Would love to own one of the previous generation GCs, just would need someone like AMD to take care of it for me, to help avoid potential problems. My buddy has a 23 Tacoma for his lease work truck, he hates the transmission. I drove a newer Camry while my outdated 09 was being fixed, I hated the tranny in that one as well. Too much shifting at highway speeds, I would kill it in a few months. Wish I had kept my 99 V6 Solara!
As a Jeep owner.... You only buy a Jeep and deal with them for a Wrangler.... Because no one else makes a Wrangler... Why in the world would someone choose Jeep for anything else SUV, when there is so many other great SUV choices out there.
I bought my Grand Cherokee because it can tow, do a decent amount of offroading, and at 9 years old in the temperature extremes of Iowa (negatives in winter, 95+ in summer) it doesn't have a speck of body rust, doesn't squeak or rattle, doesn't leak, and has never once left me stranded in any situation.
@OSTKCabal, all crap brands will have an owner who says they own a trouble-free vehicle, but you are the exception. Truth is most will have major problems.
@@davidzavala337 I never said it was totally trouble-free, I said it was extremely solidly built and the underlying chassis is extremely overbuilt, unlike most other crossovers in its class. And it never has left me stranded, even when it has had issues.
this is interesting as jeep suv haters will use this feedback as ammunition as to not purchase one..i'm not selling my 2022 grand cherokee overland for no review.
@@4realtalk1 Definitely not a Jeep SUV hater here.... Just a realist.... Stelantis products have issues. Unless you need something unique like a Wrangler or defunct Trackhawk, why? There's are plenty of other reliable options for kid hauling SUVs available for similiar money. Keep it till the wheels fall off, I know I'm not entering the new vehiclr market anytime soon with the crazy prices even for small throwaway cars.
I'm biased, but I'm just not a fan of the new GC. I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee and still love it. It's actually been very reliable (from my experience, you either get a good one, or you get one that's nothing but problems). I wish sometimes I would have gotten the V8, but current gas prices justify my choice. I must say, that it really only feels underpowered at high speed passing, but she does do 100 mph competently on the highway. Maintenence cost at higher mileage is a downside. The cost of changing spark plugs because of the design is ridiculous and changing the headlight bulbs require bending tricks with hand and wrists (and skin) unless you go through the trouble of removing the airbox. Also, those big shocks- check out the price of just one. Regardless of the quirks, I still love it. Incidently, I recently bought a 1995 Lexus LS 400 to offset the mileage I put on the Jeep. Because of its age and the cost of parts, I really can't complain now about the cost of the Jeep Maintenence.😂😂
I did buy the V8 in my 2021 GC. Was a great decision. You only lose 2 MPG with the V8. I like the fact that i can run 87 octane when I am just running around town in stop and go traffic.
My Expedition also has the hatch button on the interior side, which we like. When carrying groceries out, I can grab the bags, and then push the button. Cant do that when the button is on the door, way up high.
This is based on Alfa Romeo platform 🇮🇹. You also reviewed a lower trim model. Limited and above come with dual tailpipes higher quality materials (Leather, Panoramic Sunroof,Bigger touchscreen etc.) Limited, Overland, and Summit Reserve would’ve been better.
@@andrazlogar861 It indeed does it’s built on the FCA Giorgio Platform which debuted with the Alfa Romeo Giulia, and followed by the Stelvio in 2015 and 2016. FCA other Italian vehicles are also built on the Italian Platform such as the Maserati Grecle and Granturismo. The Grand Cherokee does share and use Alfa Romeo platform (Giorgio Platform)
@@markwilliams6378 It’s built on the FCA Giorgio Platform which debuted with the Alfa Romeo Giulia, and followed by the Stelvio in 2015 and 2016. FCA other Italian vehicles are also built on the Italian Platform such as the Maserati Grecle and Granturismo. The Grand Cherokee does share and use Alfa Romeo platform (Giorgio Platform)
Already bought it without doing my research. I NEED to hear that I've made the right choice. *Edit*😢 Oh well. It's my third Cherokee. The other two have treated me well. Wish me luck!
Good luck. I've heard a few times of the head gasket taking a shit on them. I owned one jgc and never again. Mine blew the head gaskets and wrapped the heads. About 7k in repairs. I got rid of it
We purchased a new 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited trim 6 months ago. We just traded it back into the dealership. The new Uconnect5 on these vehicles are one big PITA! I would advise all to avoid any Jeep/Ram/Dodge product with the Uconnect5. We loved the Uconnect4, but not the 5!
I’m not him but having owned multiple they have a random 5-15 year time period of being perfect then everything goes wrong at once 😂 Drive great though
I have a 2007 Jeep Commander HEMI V8 with 160,000 miles, and it's still running great ... Best car I ever had 👍 I'm so disappointed they stopped making them... I don't know if I want to try any other Jeep... Happy holidays, everyone 🎄😃👍🇺🇸
He keeps lamenting about the engine being old and simple and I'm thinking great. The last thing I want are the new over-engineered engines that break the moment a circuit frys. If they've been using it since longer than 2016 it tells me that it's probably doing a good job. As far as the actual repair headaches, that's why I leave it to guys like you. Better yet, buy right and don't hold them too long and you usually won't have to see a mechanic. Leave that to someone else.
I’m looking to buy this car and this video was extremely helpful. I appreciate the fact that you showed both the positive and the negative as most of the car review videos. I found people only say the positive things so I appreciate your review. I’ll be subscribing based off of this video.
The Pentastar, line all Chrysler/Stellantis engines, is antiquated and down on power. Love this channel - the best "auto review" channel on YT because he is actually technically adept as a mechanic as opposed to the rest of the channels where some guy just babbles about look/feel and "quirks".
Doing so many of these long takes in one cut really speaks to your expertise. I don't have a serious interest in most of the cars you've reviewed in this series, but I still watch because of your attention to detail. Thank you for your hard work!
Agreed, most of the cars I wouldn't be buying myself but I love the in-depth reviews
I agree!! Lots of information
What video are you watching? There’s many cuts during the video. Which is totally normal btw. He knows the info but no one films in one go 😂
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The guy is full of shit. He's clearly biased towards Toyota products.
Neighbor had this motor in his pickup went 560k km
Before hit a deer and got a new one.
Still ran great and smooth.
Good motor really
To be fair this engine gets caned by people for being outdated but can say I’d trust it a lot more to last the distance than a hybrid or electric.
I did almost 800 miles nonstop on my 23 Jeep GCL overland with 3.6 V6. It was packed with 4 adults, a toddler and 4 large suitcases along with stroller. It was raining heavily for at least 400 miles. I never felt underpowered or unsafe while cruising at 65-75 MPH given the visibility. It clocked 24 MPG. The drive was so smooth that my little one slept for most part of the journey.
I had a 2008 BMW 328i, 2019 Cherokee, and 2022 RAV4. After putting 12000 miles in less than 6 months, I have decided to keep this Jeep as long it can run.
What a story! 800 miles non stop? That's insane..
@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala It is, because it is a lie. 23 gallon tank, 26 mpg =600 miles of range. Add in a full interior with people and stuff, and efficience is even lower. Typical lying Jeep owner, trying to justify their $100,000 purchase.
Yes@@fiyangga.yanggiri-hala. We started early morning from Atlanta, GA and reached Dallas, TX by the sunset, with a refill/refreshment break of 20-30 minutes at Shreveport, LA. Now, at 16000 Miles and still going strong.
Well@@user-de4jk8vj4c, you may have your reasons to hate Jeep, and that's ok. I did not put $100K, I got mine at around $62K. We took a refill/refreshment break at Shreveport, LA for 20-30 minutes. I sold my 2022 RAV4 in less than 6 months so need not to justify anything.
Shouldn't you expect a 23 model perform to perform well..??
"The engine is old and underpowered"
5th gen 4Runner has entered the chat.
I drove a previous gen Grand it the 3.6/8spd, it felt like a rocket compared to my 4Runner, I was doing nearly 80mph before I knew it. It belongs to my brother, he wanted me to test drive it because he thought he felt a driveline vibe. I said I don't think I can help you, this thing drives SO much smoother than my 4R.
The difference is that the 1GR stood the test of time. It’s bulletproof. You can’t say that about the Jeep’s V6. Also look at the interior build quality starting @ 22:32, this won’t be happening in any 4runner. Lastly the 4runner is a body on frame vehicle that can go anywhere and handle abuse. The Grand Cherokee is unibody and not really built for off-roading.
@@electrikoptik Toyota fan-boy spotted. 🤣My dude... Please learn a thing or two about cars. The Pentastar has been in a TON of vehicles and has been absolutely solid. You can virtually call the Pentastar bullet-proof. And a Toyota guy is ragging on Jeep's interior quality?!?! That's a hoot. Toyota's are GARBAGE on the interiors (and that extends to Lexus'). Cheap, rattly, poorly built. This new Grand Cherokee is shit, to be sure. But it's just as shit as the crap Toyota's been churning out for the past decade (at least).
@@cw4623 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 everything about Fiat jeep is pure trash compared to a Toyota except in horsepower. Especially one built in Japan like the 4Runner. Cheap interior? Simple, yes, cheap no. You must be a fan of plastic wood and piano black finishes. 🤣 Don’t ever compare your fiat trash to a jdm when it comes to longevity or build quality.
So was the 3cyl out of a Geo Metro if you want to go to the "aviation engine" route. I'll take a Toyota over most but your logic needs checked. Example, Hyundai makes great cargo ships yet that also does not translate to a history of automotive greatness.@@dbonilla29869
@@cw4623 Most 4runner owners own them due to reliability being far superior to other manufacturers. If that make someone a fan boy so be it.
A Toyota master tech doing a mechanical review on a Stellantis product....Imma get some popcorn.
I think he is hired by Toyota to make more sells for them
Like Toyota never has issues.
@@kinsmen1764
I'd drive this before I buy a Toyota
Time to let go. Toyota isn't the same company it used to be.
I did not know this was a port injection engine. That makes the engine much more reliable !
Yes but if you don’t maintain they become a nightmare pretty fast. They also like to leak oil not a terrible engine but definitely not the best on the market.
I have had 5 Jeep Grand Cherokees. I currently have a 22 JGC Altitude. I have always appreciated the design , capability and driving dynamics and comfort. I never had any issues and absolutely love me new model. My Jeeps have always served me well and got me through many snowstorms.
The real question is, 5 jeeps over the course of how many years! 😝 If you lease them for 4 years, the your perception of Jeep is different than someone who purchased one and attempted to keep it 10+ years.
@@theminicooper the answer is don't make ignorant assumptions. At least l know Minis will be in the shop in about an hour after leaving the dealership? ☺️
@@bigjoe330 There is literally no assumptions in my previous comment 😆 And yes, Minis are indeed a load of crap! Cost me a lot of money to find it out! Same as with Jeep 🥰
@@theminicooperLOL….you’re THAT guy who actually bought a Mini Cooper 😂 And then you question someone else’s choice and experience of owning their brand of car. LOL….whatever you say Mini.
@@pewterngoldThat was a good comeback! LOL
I bought a 2023 Jeep GC Altitude edition in this red velvet color back in October 2022. We now have 31,000 miles on the odometer and it has been trouble free from day 1. First three oil changes were paid for by Chrysler and one recall to repair the boots holding the rear springs. I love the 3.6 engine as I had a 2016 Chrysler 200C with the 3.6 and she gave me 140,000 miles of trouble free driving. Traded her in on the new Jeep GC. MPG on the Jeep has been 23.1 average which for the size of the vehicle is very acceptable. The engine does not consume any oil between the appx 9500 mile interval for changing out for new fluids. Overall we are 95% happy with our new Jeep. Only disappointment is the paint chips very easily off the front end from road debris.
I have the V-6 Pentastar in my Ram 1500, but it has the e-torque system. It is used as a work truck for the most part. It is pretty quick on take off and it passes other cars well. I have never thought of it as slow. It's certainly quick enough for a pickup truck and gets up to speed very well. Now it replaced a Toyota Tacoma 4 banger with an automatic transmission. Now that truck was slow. I often felt I should open the door and use my left foot to help it get up hills.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 your statement about the Tacoma being slow is way too accurate 😂😂
Have the pentastar in a modded JL 4 door Wrangler and it does not feel slow at all even with a lift and 35” tires.
Yes but the Tacoma will last trouble free and with quality. Your tank is a shit box that you won’t admit to anyone including yourself.
5 years and it has never had a problem. @@kevincamilleri1695
That's an American pride coment right there😂
My wife bought a 2021 L new with this engine, has about 25k now. Drove it 4k miles in one trip with three adults and three kids last summer. No issues besides at first wireless Android Auto dropping the connection but that was fixed with a software update. Had a tow hitch receiver put on to get some extra storage in the back via basket, and also put on roofrack crossbars. It seems pretty jumpy to me not slow at all and can easily pass other cars, but individual cars can vary. Enjoy driving it when I take it out. Great car overall. We'll end up keeping it
I’ve been driving Jeep brand vehicles since 1994. I currently own a Grand Cherokee and a Wrangler Rubicon. I’ve had no issues with my Jeeps. I make sure the maintenance is regularly done. LOVE my Jeeps!
Endless oil leaks.
@@jaysmith179 never on mine
No leaks here gotta do ur preventative maintenance broski 🛠️
This guy is clearly biased
This is easily the best car content on you tube.
Old school is cool. This is a great engine.
I've own a 2002 GC since new. At 190,000 miles it still runs great and looks great. Nothing s been replaced except fluids, a serpentine belt, a vacuum hose, and brake pads
Good ol 4.0 I6.
@@314jeepsnmopars3or a 4.7
I've got a JGC 1999 Laredo 4.0L the no frills version. It has got electric windows. It has been the faithful work horse, with 197,000klm on the clock. Replaced alternator (which it didn't really need, it was actually a faulty new battery that was causing non starts) crank sensor and front control arms. Cheers from Australia 🦘
4.7 actually.
Dude if it is not the same engine trans we don’t care irrelevant
AMD is a natural teacher, he has the ability to explain the complex in an easy to understand way. Love these technical reviews from a Master Tech, a quality real-world review is not all about soft touch surfaces but what to expect over long-term ownership. Shows how fast auto technology is moving when he mentions 2016 (7 years ago) as dated/ancient engine design tech.
He's full of shit on this video
I rented this suv for a road trip and fell in love with it. Lets face it, these days car manufacturers are trying to cut costs anywhere they can so every car on the market is going to have its flaws. The comfort level is great and ride quality is also quiet and good. The technology in this engine is old but doesnt mean its bad. The Engine having old tech i understandable. Port injection has worked for decades and its a refined system. I guess you can easily say. If it aint broke, dont fix it. Nice review over all. The battery location really threw me off. Theres enough space in the engine bay for a battery. Oh well 🤷♂️
The button is on the side so that kids and smaller adults can reach it. So, you are picking up a child at sports, they can dump their gym bag and close themselves. I'm not sure that was the intention - but that is how it works out for us.
That's a great point!
Also, I find it more efficient to put stuff in the cargo area and hit the button while rounding the corner towards drivers door. Only my right arm is under the hatch to close it, instead of my whole body. Also, you are already close to the button after loading cargo area, so it is less body movement to push button as your already next to it. Small detail, but more efficient, in my opinion, as I do not have to stop moving towards drivers door as I push the button to close hatch.
My wife is short, she is glad it is not up on the door.
Chrysler minivans have the button on the side down low for the same reason. Short women and children who can't reach a button high in the air on the bottom of the hatch/liftgate.
He’s reviewing a Laredo Altitude which is very close to a base model Laredo. The interior materials are completely different in the Overland, Summit and Summit reserve trims. Also the plastic around the wheel-wells, is painted on those trim levels.
We bought a 2024 Grand Cherokee L overland a few weeks ago! So far we love it! its not underpowered at all actually the opposite feels pretty peppy! We really enjoy riding in it I do recommend it to a family of 5 or 6! Happy new year!!! Ours has the 3.6 with an 8 speed transmission.
Update?
We are buying the GC Limited this week. We were happy with the performance on the test drive. Wife only lives 1 mile or so from work so should be pretty reliable long term. I have a Wrangler and have never had issues with it. It is a 2017. The new GC we are getting is a 24. 25 didn't offer the color she wanted. Midnight Blue.
I have an in-line 6 4.0 Larado 2WD purchased new in 2001. It has 230K so far and consumes virtually no oil every 4K miles. Everything still works, including the CD and cassette player. Still used as a around town driver but I purchased a new 4Runner SR5 4WD in 2019 that we use for vacations basically.
I love watching your videos to educate myself about cars and car craftsmanship.
The key to this Jeep is oil changes. I’ve owned several and never had issues at 100k. The transmission is also solid. Compared to my Tacoma it got better fuel mileage and didn’t have timing phaser issues like my Toyota. The key is oil changes. They did screw up the tuneup situation because the motor is definitely set too far back. Overall I think it’s a decent SUV without the needless complications of turbos and cylinder deactivation that Honda and other companies use today.
100K miles in todays world is a very low bar to set..... Any modern engine and tranny should at least last 200K with regular service.
@@thomasward00 yeah well the new Hondas can’t make it to that bar without head gasket issues. My 2013 Tacoma needed phasers and a timing chain at 80k while my LX 470 runs like a sewing machine at 300k. New tech is not better tech. Emission systems and turbos are both reduce the life of a lot of engines. The key is oil changes and regular maintenance. No company is perfect but I’m just saying my Jeeps have been very reliable unlike my Mercedes and my Toyota and finally my new Honda Motorcycle which is still at the dealership waiting on warranty work.
I watched the whole video, based on what I saw this truck is a mechanic's nightmare. I'd lease one for three years, then throw the keys back. Stellantis went into these thinking let's make repair and maintenance as expensive as possible. The Porsche/Audi/BMW style engineering goes along great with their ridiculous pricing. People forgot what a real Jeep is, real Jeeps were originally meant to be taken apart and put back together rather quickly during wartime. This is just leaseable junk.
@@justacinnamonbun8658 the most easily taken apart vehicle like wrangler is still a electronics nightmare nowadays.
Considering all the clout chasing Trackhawk wannabes I see in these, I don’t think the warning will be much heeded.
Having owned and loved 3 JGCs, the fit and finish and that piano black center setup(got to always put a towel over that area when the sun angle hits hit) does leave a lot to be desired: but the seat comfort, quietness , power and ride trumps all of me. The open/close button location is most helpful for disabled folks. Excellent report. Thanks!
You can buy dash covers that are vehicle specific, I put one in my 2012 JGC and it helped a lot with dash glare and doesn't look tacky.
@@gnic76 ok good. I’ll find one.
Yeah, what is it about that piano black around the inside dash and uconnect?
@@greghale717 Idk, I looked at a couple other car brands and they only offered a black interior and at most 3-5 exterior colors. And a couple of the colors were a couple hundred more in cost.
Yes. People of short stature have to stretch high to reach the tailgate control button. Having the button where it is, is a positive feature.
I just hit 20k miles on my 22 GC limited. There is nothing under powered about it and it gets amazing fuel economy for its size. I made it a point to never reset the MPG indicator. I've averaged 24.4 mpg in mixed driving over those 20k miles. I love it, and the limited trim delivers great bang for your buck.
That thing must live on the highway to get that kind of gas mileage.
Agreed. I only get 20.7 max mixed.
is overland worth it over limited?
@breacher73 my personal feeling is this that the overland price opens it up to direct competition with luxury brands and I'm just not convinced it would hold up against them. For $65k-$70k I'd more than likely be looking at a BMW X5.
Thinking about getting one of these! Are you still enjoying it and trouble free ??
I had a 2021 Rubicon 3.6L E-torque 8-speed and it was downright fast!
Bought a new 2024 GC this summer. Awesome vehicle, very comfortable, super quiet on the road, 21 MPG, V6, 4X4, Plenty of power. We love it. No complaints, so far. Out the door, with tag, title, and taxes; $29,890.00. Tell me where you can find another 4X4 V6 loaded SUV for that price today (November, 2024).
Thanks as always, AMD! I wouldn't think of buying a JEEP, but you can get us to watch just about anything car-related! And likely beyond
No one’s asking you too buy one.
Jeep should go out of business for being planned obsolescence scammers.
@@faheemabbas3965too many dummies keep buying them. you really can’t feel sympathy for people who proudly spend a huge fraction of their money on a pile of crap
Proudly made in USA 🇺🇸
@trev0074 but a video like this is aimed at people who would buy one.
You were spot on, old school engine, big flashy suv, cheap interior, BUT comfy...
I love how he said at the end, "May the Lord bless you and keep you!"❤🙌
Brother God bless you and your family. Just saying thanks for bringing your expertise to the world. Love from Toronto 🇨🇦
I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee 3.6 rn and, while im fully aware its no sports car, its never felt slow when i need to pass someone. You're definitely right about the ZF 8-Speed being the saving grave though 👍. Plus i love all the extra space up front in the engine bay to work in!
I have owned 5 since 1993 great vehicles,2 have been handed down to family members! All 6 cylinders,change the oil ,do required maintenance and they last forever!
Any over 200k?
My JGC 07 Laredo V6 3.7 4WD just surpassed 223K. She still runs amazing no noises no funny smells no ringing no dingdong sounds no oil leaks I’m always on top of preventative maintenances and she never left me stranded ever. I’ll run her till the wheels falls off then maybe I’ll pick up one of these down the line when it’s used w 40K miles in it 😇
Same here 07 2wd v6 3.7 205k miles rebuilt transmission 5yrs ago runs smooth no issues so far an properly maintained , if it dies just have new motor replacement to it an keep on Jeep'n
Jeep wasn’t owned by Fiat in 07, that’s the issue with modern Jeeps. Fiat is horrible
On my 3rd GJ all with Pentastar, no complaints, the AGM battery under the seat has lasted 10 plus yrs in first 2, not exposed to heat under the hood helps. Solid platform, good performance.
My 21 WL limited with the 3.6L. Has been a solid vehicle since we purchased it new in 7/21.
The 3.6l was actually introduced in the 2011 WK of which I also had one new. 3 Grand Cherokees ago. The 3.6 L. Has been 100% solid on every grand Cherokee Iv had
A 13 year old engine design is far from old. The 3.6 has been updated since 2011.
Glad to hear it, just picked one up knowing the proven 3.6 would be a better bet than the very new phev turbo 4 or also old and inefficient 5.7
@@rhiiine It's really a good engine. I just wouldn't push oil changes past 5000 miles. I still do them at 3000 k. Any potential 3.6 issues always seems to be people who did 7,500-10k oil change intervals.
I have had this car since 2021, and it is a fantastic car. Mechanically, it is excellent, very potent in all-wheel drive with 0 mechanical issues till now(21000 miles). It is a fast car as well…for its dimension! I don’t know why this guy says it is slower than competition. It is wrong. Building quality is decent, not amazing, and not a problem in my case. It is way better than other Highlanders, Hyundays, Kias, etc. And by way…I bought it because….IS OLD SCHOOL! I don’t want turbo crap…means high-cost maintenance, maintenance only at the dealer, etc.
The dude is very biased, all he knows is Toyota and Japanese cars, you can tell, anything good about the GC he brushes over it like it’s nothing, and delays on the bad so much
No way a gran Cherokee has better build quality than any of the mfgs. Listed. Stellantis is bunk
@@MK3504: In these days, all manufacturers are making junk cars. There is no quality anymore. They want you to replace the car every 3 to 5 years. Look at the maintenance schedule in all cars, it tells you not to change transmission fluid till 150 k, and change engine oil every 7 to 10 k , and that’s how these cars fall apart and don’t last.
@@freddie3159That’s with almost all products now days it seems. One exception I’d say though is motorcycles, or Japanese supersport bikes (crotchrockets) in particular. You can beat the hell out of them and they just keep going.
You are absolutely right. Turbo craps are terrible after 100k. Old design engine means good quality...this guy is nuts..
I like this guy. I think his comments are generally fair and accurate and without fluff. However, complaining about the battery location is stretching it. Unusual location, yes. Difficult or problematic, no. Scoot the seat forward. Lift a panel. There's the battery. How much easier can it be. Maybe the location should be praised. A temperature controlled environment is surely better than putting it in the oven under the hood.
I was about to deposit this one and you make me think twice. Thanks. Always make good content.
THIS is how a car review should be done! Especially given how expensive cars are today. Going in eyes open is the best for us, not whichever magazine pays the most. I would love to hear your thoughts on the 2023 Jeep Gladiator.
Very informative. I've been very happy with my 23 GC L. It hasn't felt underpowered at all to me. I thought the old school V6 was a plus. The transmission and engine combo makes this so smooth that shifts are sometimes totally imperceptible.
Agreed. He speaks about how horribly underpowered these are. I completely disagree. My '23 GC with 3.6L has plenty of power. He speaks about how "ancient" the engine is. Like 2016 was from the caveman days.
Does your radio/infotainment ever lock up and freeze?
@@ejhirschberger no the only issue I’ve ever had is with the battery not charging enough due to short trips, and eventually it went dead or dead enough to keep the starter from coming on, and it had to be towed because it couldn’t be jumped with a jump pack. I’ve never had an issue with the radio at all or CarPlay.
it did happend to my 2022 GCL for 2 times. Funny thing is turning off the ignition doesn't really turn the raido off. Only long pressing the power button to truly reboot the system can resolve the issue. @@ejhirschberger
Yes. For USA-made cars the 3.6l (non-direct injected; non-turbocharged; not-so-complicated) engine is a benefit. My parents just bought their GC-L; it's fantastic. You sacrifice power and refinement for decent-ish fuel economy (for a 5,000lb 4x4), 87 octane, and no headaches. The ZF transmission is VERY busy in this SUV but works great with the engine; it never feels underpowered except if you REALLY floor it. It pulled our 5,000lb boat just fine; albeit a tad slow on acceleration.
As for modern engine reliability; ask me how I know; my Ford 2.0l Turbo Direct injection engine needed a timing chain VVT phaser job AND Turbo/exhaust manifold job BOTH at 100k. $8,000 in repairs later; I will never buy another "modern" engine. It's old school or EV for me going forward. Turbo+DI (unless it has a Honda or Toyota badge on it) is crap long term and you can't convince me otherwise...
Had a 2018 Grand Cherokee Trackhawk with the 8HP95 trans. That thing was holding up to over 1000 horsepower. I absolutely loved that trans.
This was very informative, Thanks!
I have a 2012 Jeep GC and the more I see of the newer vehicles, the more I want to keep the one I have. It has been fairly reliable and still comfortable to drive.
Side note, it has the battery under the passenger seat, but isn't too difficult to change out, unlike say.. the ford escape where you have to remove the air box to even attempt a battery change.
Plus it saves the battery life in very cold environments, the dude only knows Toyotas
@@kinsmen1764 Ahmed primarily works on Toyotas, that's why.
This is one of the more base trims of the Grand Cherokee L. The higher trims have better quality materials
These grand Cherokees have also gone up in price too!
I love wathcing your input. You are my bible on cars and I trust you deeply. This is my 3rd Overland. I just leased a new one, 4XE. Wanted to try the new Hybrid. So far, a real winner for me. It reminds me a Range Rover for the poor. Very comfortable, extrememly quite, ride is air, all around, the night riding is just right. The only negetive I have to say, you will need a level 2 charger, if you want to ride it electric, daily. Level 1 is just too slow of a charge. The sound system is like no other I have had in many years of riding. The size of the car is just right for the regular length, not L. I will not buy a car like that cause the Hybrid is very complicated and expensive to repair.
I have the small version not the l. Pentastar v-6 plenty of power 300 horse just under. 2023 for 45,000 out the door with a moonroof leather all safety devices black 20 inch rims and black headliner same color. On the highway I'm getting almost 30 mi to the gallon. I was shocked nothing's perfect but the price range nothing could touch it had at least three other Dodge Chrysler products with the pentastar no trouble thanks for your opinion this is mine!😊
Do you like car overall? I am thinking about 2022
@@kerkoroffdid you get one? We have a 23 and I love it so far. Not as refined as our highlander but I enjoy it more.
@@4rdF1Hunny i ended up buying Porsche Cayenne GTS
@@kerkoroff oh wow, that’s vastly different.
regard the side rear gate closing button, it actually make sense to short people. The on the gate button is hard to reach for short people while the side button is much easier to operate.
Those transmission filter/pans have a replacement from doorman that has a replaceable filter.
Fantastic Review as always. I would love to see your input and review of the new 2024 Toyota Grand Highlander when you are able to. Keep up the great work. :)
Thats the best vehicle ever made because its a Toyota according to AMD
@@Inspector694 According to every single person who has ever owned one. Don't forget them. They are one of the best suvs ever made.
He's full of shit
These reviews are far more informative for a new car buyer than most other reviews. Not a fan of Stellantis products as they tend to have a lot of issues. Battery under passenger seat is insane...
What? Which model has the batter under the passenger seat? That doesn’t make sense from a safety perspective
I agree he gives us what we need to know especially mechanical this would actually make me buy one aside from the Battery thing. Port injection v6 reliable many many of them have 100sk miles
POWERED....driver seat....is my understanding....
Actually my 2001 Buick LeSabre has its battery under the rear seat and it's perfectly great there. It's 100% vented and the battery is not exposed to excessive engine heat and other factors that would worry me more. Where do you think they put the batteries in a Tesla?
@@johng.4959it’s a pain to jump it though when the battery starts to go
That side panel button for the rear hatch makes sense for when your kids pile into the vehicle through the back…with one of the seats down.
7.4 seconds for a 0-60 acceleration for such a big vehicle doesn't seem to be bad at all to me. It's better than most Toyotas.
the Pentastar V6 is just a little underpowered for such a large vehicle as this. Speaking from experience. It does fine in a Charger or a Challenger.
Mid 7 seconds 0-60 is very adequate- 293 hp from an NA V6 is more than competitive with its peers. I’ve owned 3 GC’s with the 3.6 and I’ve never been in a situation where I needed more power than what was available. There’s plenty of power in reserve if you need to quickly pass somebody or merge in front of fast traffic. This isn’t a race car, and doesn’t need race car power. People are wanting so much power they don’t need- it’s just a waste of fuel. Those of us not drag racing at every stop light will enjoy the smooth power delivery.
I’ve been happy with the power on mine. Step on it and it’ll move fine.
My 2019 Honda Odyssey is quicker.
The thing with the pentastar is when it does make power it’s screaming at you. Even though it’s designed to be a screamer all day long it’s unnerving listening to its cry’s on the regular, a large SUV like this adds to the effect.
After 14 months I had no mechanical issue. only the screen turns off after a few minutes after closing the car. This car is comfortable to drive but it loses grip when you take an exit on 50 mph from the ramp. I recommend drive slowly.
At this point, the Pentastar V6 and ZF8 speed transmission in the Grand Cherokee is pretty much a bulletproof combination. And it's not at all underpowered. It also returns decent fuel economy for a 5000 lb SUV.
This is the best motor that Chrysler makes. I’ve had four cars with this motor it gets great gas mileage, and it’s very dependable.
Those ticks are getting louder.
@@Mike__PThat's your head lice.
@@esteban1487your mom gave them to me
Best motor that Chrysler makes isn't really something to brag about 😂
@v306 Pentastar has been a great engine for a long time. That ZF 8 speed is butter. Haters gonna hate. 🤷♂️
I like seeing these positive comments. I’m normally very selective when it comes to buying a vehicle, I did an internet search and bought the car in a few hours. I didn’t do my usual research.
I knew it was an old school engine which I preferred. It’s good to hear it’s treating people well.
I have a 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee,and I absolutely love it. There is only 1. It’s a real SUV ,it’s not a crossover. It handles well and rides quiet and smooth.
can i know how it is now? i about to take the same one😂
@@tinle761 I have a Summit Reserve, bought in Dec 2021. Have done only 35K kms in 3 yrs, it's been good so far
I love the nuts and bolts of your reviews unlike other car reviewers' opinion and biases, they do a piss poor job because they don't know anything how a car works they just review stupidly but you are a mechanic and knows what is good and what is a nightmare objectively and used stats to back it up, thank you!
I love this channel for many reasons, Thankyou for all the great content!
The best automotive channel.. and it's not even close.
Hey Mr. Car care nut, I would really love if you could do a review on FORD EXPLORER, it’s a car that we are interested in and you are the most reliable person on RUclips for these kinds of thing, thank you.
We just traded in our 2017 ford explorer for the Grand Cherokee. Our ford explorer was doing fine until the water pump suddenly failed. It is. Common issue with ford explorers right as they reach 80-100k miles. It was 3000-5000 fix. We opted for a new car and traded it in. We did like the ford explorer. Great trunk space for having 3 rows.
Oh my Gosh, you are the MAN … This video saved me so much time and energy! She is really very beautiful but it only goes skin deep! Grazie
How does the button for the rear hatch make no sense? It makes it easier for everyone, especially short people. You got 3 seconds to move outta the way. I’ve always thought this was a good idea.
Easier for my younger kids who I and the wife constantly send to get groceries from the back of the truck and this is so convenient for them who just stand in the side and press button instead of over reaching
2018 JGC Limited owner here. The power of the car has never been an issue at all. I do not tow, but I love my GC nonetheless.
The button for the rear hatch is designed for shorter drivers that can’t reach the top of the hatch when open
This has to be the BEST REVIEW on this Jeep. Not only are you very knowledgeable, but the execution of explaining is very good.
Mechanically this is one of the few cars that I’d buy a reliable v6 with port zf trans and differential, looks really good this would actually be reliable.
Yet people are hating on it cuz it’s a Stellantis product
Nah. It's not reliable. Come across countless bad engines. And even though the zf trans is good, the fact it's connected to a Chrysler makes any good qualities gone.
@@alainaguilar9938The transmission is actually a Chrysler built 850RE that’s used in the hybrid 4XE and V6. The V8 has the real ZF transmission called 8HP75
@@BigAltimaEnergy719 I mean some have their issues but there are 100s of RUclips videos that have 2-400k miles on them the trans goes out first usually. But
@@alainaguilar9938 fair enough there are always going to be some that are bad engines with any brand including Honda and Toyota.
Absolutely nuts! I'm pricing a left over 2023 Overland packaged almost exactly like a 2020 Overland. $64k MSRP vs. $54k MSRP!
These jeeps are very reliable vehicles but you have to stick to low tier editions, do not buy very complex editions on the higher tier
Fully loaded 21 GCL 5.7 summit reserve with 40k miles not an issue so far but still wayy to early on
Thank you! I sat in one of these at a dealer a couple weeks ago and really liked it, but you covered things I never would have thought of. You may have saved me forty thousand dollars.
Loving my 2023 Jeep G Cherokee Overland, not underpowered what so ever , it feels powerful and smooth at the same time !
Yeah exactly. People are toxic though and believe what they want to believe, which is that their cheaper car is always better.
how is reliablity so far? I'm looking to buy an used 2022 grand cherokee trailhawk :)
I had a 2001 GC with the reliable inline 6 that lasted 388k miles. Small valve leak and AC issue but the rest was problem free. Wife has a 2013 GC with the Hemi and by your standards it’s old. It’s been reliable also as well as the rest of the vehicle. Never had issues with jeeps and would buy another. Actually looking at a Grand Wagoneer series 3.
I love how thorough these reviews are. I can't wait until you review some Subarus!
Would appreciate a Subaru review as well.
I've also commented to that effect. At least in the meantime savagegeese and other youtubers have interesting videos.
@@davidglad correct. Savage geese has a good library of videos. I'm more interested in the "engineering review" of the engine bay and underbody but a mechanic. I for one enjoy the relative ease of access in the engine bay.
Since Subaru is partly owned by Toyota you could then expect a really positive review.
@@dadadadada17 Partly owned, and for a short enough period that IDK if Toyota's quality could have made a difference on the existing lineup.
Just bought a 2022 G C ALTITUD for my wife this Jeep is a beast we love it ,is Not underpower at all .this is the most powerfull SUV OR JEEP I ever drove .
little correction to your specs on the grand Grand Cherokee, this new generation is based on the Alfa Romeo Stelvio, Giorgio Platform
The older Ford Edge also has the tailgate close button inside like the Jeep
Have a L limited with black package and i love it. I take care of my cars really well so 120k before serious repairs is the norm for me. This jeep with it's style, comfort and nimbleness just give these Jeep the edge in my opinion with the ability to go off road is the icing on the cake. Materials wise i have kids and they get scuffs on a lot of things so those plastics with fit me. They put the nice materials where it matters and that is on the dash area where it is soft to the touch.
What color for exterior do you have?
To be honest, I have a JL with the 3.6 pentastar and it is by no means a slow car. I love my wrangler. It's quick and fun to drive. Looks like the pentastar is under power but when you try the car it is fast.
It’s be interesting to see a comparison of this and the top end Summit Reserve. The Grand Cherokee lineup goes from economy basic to very high end.
Please tell him, he is so biased
Yeah, a base Laredo and a Summit is sometimes a whopping $30,000 +. Don't see it. and these days really nothing "economy" about a base Laredo.
Exactly, I have a Overland L with a Hemi and it is waaayyyy better than this basic one. The Summit and Summit Reserve is even nicer! I also have a ‘18 JLU Rubicon with the 3.6, and it has been a great vehicle as well!
I have a 2008 Grand Cherokee with 272,000 miles on same motor and transmission with no repair. It has saved my life in three accidents. I also got the 2023 Limited L grand Cherokee and we love it. Jeep is not for everyone…as Toyota is not for everyone. I don’t like Toyota car designs. We all know you are little biased towards Toyota and Lexus. 😂.
He is a Toyota tech if it ain’t Toyota, it ain’t good, he should be honest, some dodge reviewers stick to dodge for what they know, same as ford or Chevy, but any good things about GC he barely mentions them. I think stick to what you know.
@@kinsmen1764 if Toyotas are so reliable why does he keep fixing them…including their engines. I have never had to repair the engines or transmissions of my Jeeps.
haha I agree, im sure he has some form of excuse for that. Currently my friend has a rented Toyota , it has very cheap unmatched plastic, like Toyota didn't even try or could care less@@engrxtn
@@kinsmen1764 haha I agree! I rented a Camry recently and it felt like it was designed for very old people. I didn’t like it…
The Pentastar V6 was rated one of the best engines in the world!
WAS…
On the rear hatch button located on the side, it is not a problem when you have short people. My wife is 5ft 6" and
she would have a problem reaching the button if it was on the lift gate. Jeeps lift gates go up really high so tall people do not hit the heads on them. We also have a Nissan Murano and the lift gate is so low i get walking into it.
Thanks AMD for a very educational and informative video. I am not a Jeep fan but they do have their following for reasons you so deftly explained. Keep up the good work.
I love my 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L, it has PLENTY of power to take off, I feel faster than 90% of the cars around me.
I just love the size of that engine bay and engine combination. More space to work around and navigate.
When the valvés get noisy at50k makesmiteasierto get that top end noff heehe
I’ve have one, and enjoy driving it.
I have always liked the previous generation Grand Cherokees. Would really enjoy finding a nice used one, but so afraid of reliability/durability issues..
Yeah, that rotary shift switch is a no go for me as well. That cheap plastic interior reminds me of my 09 Camry. AMD did a thoughtful, objective report on this vehicle. Would love to own one of the previous generation GCs, just would need someone like AMD to take care of it for me, to help avoid potential problems. My buddy has a 23 Tacoma for his lease work truck, he hates the transmission. I drove a newer Camry while my outdated 09 was being fixed, I hated the tranny in that one as well. Too much shifting at highway speeds, I would kill it in a few months. Wish I had kept my 99 V6 Solara!
get the extended warranty
Get a higher trim level as well. That looks like a base Laredo with altitude package maybe?
One of the best interior layouts
As a Jeep owner.... You only buy a Jeep and deal with them for a Wrangler.... Because no one else makes a Wrangler... Why in the world would someone choose Jeep for anything else SUV, when there is so many other great SUV choices out there.
I bought my Grand Cherokee because it can tow, do a decent amount of offroading, and at 9 years old in the temperature extremes of Iowa (negatives in winter, 95+ in summer) it doesn't have a speck of body rust, doesn't squeak or rattle, doesn't leak, and has never once left me stranded in any situation.
@OSTKCabal, all crap brands will have an owner who says they own a trouble-free vehicle, but you are the exception. Truth is most will have major problems.
@@davidzavala337 I never said it was totally trouble-free, I said it was extremely solidly built and the underlying chassis is extremely overbuilt, unlike most other crossovers in its class. And it never has left me stranded, even when it has had issues.
this is interesting as jeep suv haters will use this feedback as ammunition as to not purchase one..i'm not selling my 2022 grand cherokee overland for no review.
@@4realtalk1 Definitely not a Jeep SUV hater here.... Just a realist.... Stelantis products have issues. Unless you need something unique like a Wrangler or defunct Trackhawk, why? There's are plenty of other reliable options for kid hauling SUVs available for similiar money.
Keep it till the wheels fall off, I know I'm not entering the new vehiclr market anytime soon with the crazy prices even for small throwaway cars.
Trunk release is on the left side because short people can reach it when the trunk is open
I'm biased, but I'm just not a fan of the new GC. I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee and still love it. It's actually been very reliable (from my experience, you either get a good one, or you get one that's nothing but problems). I wish sometimes I would have gotten the V8, but current gas prices justify my choice. I must say, that it really only feels underpowered at high speed passing, but she does do 100 mph competently on the highway.
Maintenence cost at higher mileage is a downside. The cost of changing spark plugs because of the design is ridiculous and changing the headlight bulbs require bending tricks with hand and wrists (and skin) unless you go through the trouble of removing the airbox. Also, those big shocks- check out the price of just one.
Regardless of the quirks, I still love it.
Incidently, I recently bought a 1995 Lexus LS 400 to offset the mileage I put on the Jeep. Because of its age and the cost of parts, I really can't complain now about the cost of the Jeep Maintenence.😂😂
I did buy the V8 in my 2021 GC. Was a great decision. You only lose 2 MPG with the V8. I like the fact that i can run 87 octane when I am just running around town in stop and go traffic.
My Expedition also has the hatch button on the interior side, which we like. When carrying groceries out, I can grab the bags, and then push the button. Cant do that when the button is on the door, way up high.
This is based on Alfa Romeo platform 🇮🇹.
You also reviewed a lower trim model.
Limited and above come with dual tailpipes higher quality materials (Leather, Panoramic Sunroof,Bigger touchscreen etc.) Limited, Overland, and Summit Reserve would’ve been better.
What Alfa platform? I don't remember Alfa having anything this big. Does Stellantis have a universal platform that they can use interchangeably?
Lol, this is not true. This has nothing to do with AR.
@@andrazlogar861 It indeed does it’s built on the FCA Giorgio Platform which debuted with the Alfa Romeo Giulia, and followed by the Stelvio in 2015 and 2016. FCA other Italian vehicles are also built on the Italian Platform such as the Maserati Grecle and Granturismo. The Grand Cherokee does share and use Alfa Romeo platform (Giorgio Platform)
@@markwilliams6378 It’s built on the FCA Giorgio Platform which debuted with the Alfa Romeo Giulia, and followed by the Stelvio in 2015 and 2016. FCA other Italian vehicles are also built on the Italian Platform such as the Maserati Grecle and Granturismo. The Grand Cherokee does share and use Alfa Romeo platform (Giorgio Platform)
@@andrazlogar861 Also some components of this vehicle have Italian designs.
Much thanks for helping me decide between 2021 and 2022 JGC. Went with the 2021!
Why is 2021 better?
Already bought it without doing my research. I NEED to hear that I've made the right choice.
*Edit*😢 Oh well. It's my third Cherokee. The other two have treated me well. Wish me luck!
Good luck. I've heard a few times of the head gasket taking a shit on them. I owned one jgc and never again. Mine blew the head gaskets and wrapped the heads. About 7k in repairs. I got rid of it
This one isn’t bad with the v6 8speed, pretty proven powertrain it isn’t new. Change oil every 7k with high quality oil.
We purchased a new 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited trim 6 months ago. We just traded it back into the dealership. The new Uconnect5 on these vehicles are one big PITA! I would advise all to avoid any Jeep/Ram/Dodge product with the Uconnect5. We loved the Uconnect4, but not the 5!
Thanks for another informative review. Would love to see your mechanical impressions on VW and Audi products!
I’m not him but having owned multiple they have a random 5-15 year time period of being perfect then everything goes wrong at once 😂
Drive great though
@@davewilson7602😂
I’d also be interested in this as well!
@@phillipbanes5484 if you’re in a rural area sure, but in any metro area I see Jettas, Passats, Tiguans and the like everywhere
@@davewilson7602👍
I have a 2007 Jeep Commander HEMI V8 with 160,000 miles, and it's still running great ... Best car I ever had 👍
I'm so disappointed they stopped making them...
I don't know if I want to try any other Jeep... Happy holidays, everyone 🎄😃👍🇺🇸
He keeps lamenting about the engine being old and simple and I'm thinking great. The last thing I want are the new over-engineered engines that break the moment a circuit frys.
If they've been using it since longer than 2016 it tells me that it's probably doing a good job.
As far as the actual repair headaches, that's why I leave it to guys like you. Better yet, buy right and don't hold them too long and you usually won't have to see a mechanic. Leave that to someone else.
I’m looking to buy this car and this video was extremely helpful. I appreciate the fact that you showed both the positive and the negative as most of the car review videos. I found people only say the positive things so I appreciate your review. I’ll be subscribing based off of this video.
The Pentastar, line all Chrysler/Stellantis engines, is antiquated and down on power. Love this channel - the best "auto review" channel on YT because he is actually technically adept as a mechanic as opposed to the rest of the channels where some guy just babbles about look/feel and "quirks".