The Apple Silicon MacBooks have had some teething pains, mine came with a dead charging chip but it was fixed promptly by Apple and I've had no issues for nearly 18 months now. As for the claim that a "kernel panic killed [your] Macbook Pro", that isn't quite right. A kernel panic is basically the computer turning itself off to protect itself and your data and is identical to a BSOD, for example if it knows it can't continue, or if continuing would result in an error, or if there was a low level error such as memory becoming corrupted or another issue that it deems is unexpected and is to the level where it can't recover. On modern operating systems and CPUs this is usually caused by a very serious or rare glitch, especially on macOS. It's important to know that a kernel panic is not an issue in and of itself, it is a response to an issue on your system, a kernel panic is just a computer saying "there's something wrong and I don't feel safe doing what I'm doing anymore". It's not kernel panics that killed your system, rather the system malfunctioned, and the system noticed this and kernel panicked If you get any issues like this in future then it does indicate a hardware issue and you should take it straight to Apple in real life, as you did eventually.
"there's something wrong and I don't feel safe doing what I'm doing anymore" - humanised my mac a little too much for my liking - this is true though, it more or less is a coping response to tell you that whatever issue is going on, it has to be looked at by someone other than itself. too bad apple killed their kernel panic url, means i gotta do it on my own
What really bothers me about the M series macbooks is that it's very hard to fix anything that goes wrong and you can't manually upgrade the ram/storage especially as SSDs degrade over time and need to be replaced, they really want customers re-purchasing macbooks every 2 years like with iPhones and it's crazy because 2010 macbook pro's run better on Windows 10 than some native windows laptops like my one which i'm considering replacing with a 2010 hackintosh situation
Yes, continuous panic CPU 0 panic CPU 2 panic CPU 3 panic I have sent my Macbook to their maintenance in Dubai. I am still on hold to see if the problem is hardware or not. I hope they can fix it otherwise I will be frustrated and quit using mac forever.
Oh man, best of luck! Hopefully, they don't keep you waiting too long and (at worst) can swap out your system. Even months later, I'm still pretty frustrated from my laptop dying. So, I would not blame you in the slightest for swearing off of Macs.
@kurd English Naw, I haven't had any panics since the logic board was swapped out. Rather, it's frustrating that it happened at all. It was the first time a laptop of mine failed so badly it wasn't usable anymore.
@kurd English That’s right. No hardware-related issues since then. I use it to edit all videos for this channel and do graphic design work; performance has been great.
Over the weekend of 1/15/2023 my MacBook experienced a series of kernel panics. The panics seemed to resolve after a clean reinstall and following the troubleshooting steps Apple listed, but they returned again. Eight days after the panics began the motherboard began to fail. The initial visit to the Apple Store determined a software issue but the panics actually happened due to motherboard issues.
The problem has since been fixed but it took a month to do so. The motherboard issues that led to the kernel panics affected the motherboard of the adapter not the Mac.
Do you know if Kernal panics corrupts data/files? I've had a panic maybe 3 times since I had this computer (MacBook Pro 2021 model M1 Max) in February of 2022 and have been working on an album of music since then. My fears is that my project files could get corrupted from these incidents if they start to happen more often or do these panics safely restart your Mac in a way that doesn't subject your files to corruption?
I hadn't experienced any loss or corruption when I was having the panics. Although, it did get to the point where I wasn't able to access my files at all for quite some time (since the laptop wouldn't turn on). In general, I wouldn't think they'd cause any storage-related issues unless the shutdown happened while trying to read or write a specific file. Still, I'd recommend making sure your files are regularly backed up to another device just in case. On my end, I have several high capacity hard drives that I use to back up RUclips projects, but Time Machine or even services like iCloud or OneDrive could work fine depending on the size of your project.
Kernel panics have rendered my US$36,000 Mac Pro 2019 utterly unusable. Apple themselves in many Genius Bar visits and Support calls have been terribly unhelpful and ultimately useless in facilitating any reasonable resolution in line with owning up to their engineering mishaps. They now want to bill me for every component imaginable in the machine (that includes two GPUs at US$4000 a piece, a US$1300 logic board, and a US$1700 Afterburner card) without any understanding as to what could be the underlying issue(s). It’s - to put it in their own words - their humiliating “parts cannon” approach; nothing but throwing astronomically-expensive parts at the machine in hopes something sticks. Awful company with defective hardware and trash support. Never buy this POS - at least without an AppleCare+ warranty, that is - or they will have you in their stores at the flip of a switch. So much for "it just works". I should have just listened to the rest of the ML community and gotten a custom-built PC instead of try to stand by a company who views users as cash cows they can gouge incessantly for their gain.
Update on my situation for anyone interested: Apple replaced the logic board, but that didn’t resolve the issue. So as of now, they have given up trying to help and instead downgraded me to macOS Ventura and told me to wait for an update “and see if it fixes the issue”.
good video,though something else to consider is a need for macOS,for the same reason you (likely,idk you) feel you can't just switch to linux (at least,not without changing your workflow) ,many mac users cannot switch to windows, and though hackintosh exists,its more of an enthusiast option (more along the lines of arch linux and gentoo). though framework is a great option,you really get the feeling that they want to really give the most user-focused computers possible and a device you really own,im also a fan of system76 and will likely go for them for my next device.
I have a 2019 Macbook pro 16” w/ intel i9 and 64GB ram 2TB ssd and also started crashing with kernel panic under heavy work load so this issue is not only with the M series. I tested the RAM with memtest86 and it appears to be a RAM issue. The computer is out of warranty and I am pretty sure the repair is worth more then the computer. My last hope is figuring out how to disable access to the faulty address range of the ram. There is a script that can be ran before reboot available on Github but I am not (yet) technically capable to pull it off. Your video and my own experience does not make want to consider apple to use processionally in the future. I suppose if repairs are done under warranty then it’s not the end of the world but once your warranty expires … you are screwed.
Hey I have exactly the same model but with less ram and it works great …as a Linux machine haha it would panic and go nuts whenever I tried to boot into my macOS so as a temporary measure I switched to Linux instead while still trying to figure out if it’s the processor a guy who’s not refunding me for "repairs" told me it had something to do with the processor being faulty I think it might be one of the cores as an engineer myself I’m very curious about this whole idea of writing a script that would disable the faulty cores at least for testing purposes .the architecture of those MacBooks SUCKS
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The Apple Silicon MacBooks have had some teething pains, mine came with a dead charging chip but it was fixed promptly by Apple and I've had no issues for nearly 18 months now.
As for the claim that a "kernel panic killed [your] Macbook Pro", that isn't quite right. A kernel panic is basically the computer turning itself off to protect itself and your data and is identical to a BSOD, for example if it knows it can't continue, or if continuing would result in an error, or if there was a low level error such as memory becoming corrupted or another issue that it deems is unexpected and is to the level where it can't recover. On modern operating systems and CPUs this is usually caused by a very serious or rare glitch, especially on macOS. It's important to know that a kernel panic is not an issue in and of itself, it is a response to an issue on your system, a kernel panic is just a computer saying "there's something wrong and I don't feel safe doing what I'm doing anymore". It's not kernel panics that killed your system, rather the system malfunctioned, and the system noticed this and kernel panicked
If you get any issues like this in future then it does indicate a hardware issue and you should take it straight to Apple in real life, as you did eventually.
also, you don't need applecare if you were sold a defective product, as you were
"there's something wrong and I don't feel safe doing what I'm doing anymore" - humanised my mac a little too much for my liking - this is true though, it more or less is a coping response to tell you that whatever issue is going on, it has to be looked at by someone other than itself. too bad apple killed their kernel panic url, means i gotta do it on my own
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What really bothers me about the M series macbooks is that it's very hard to fix anything that goes wrong and you can't manually upgrade the ram/storage especially as SSDs degrade over time and need to be replaced, they really want customers re-purchasing macbooks every 2 years like with iPhones and it's crazy because 2010 macbook pro's run better on Windows 10 than some native windows laptops like my one which i'm considering replacing with a 2010 hackintosh situation
Yes, continuous panic
CPU 0 panic
CPU 2 panic
CPU 3 panic
I have sent my Macbook to their maintenance in Dubai. I am still on hold to see if the problem is hardware or not. I hope they can fix it otherwise I will be frustrated and quit using mac forever.
Oh man, best of luck! Hopefully, they don't keep you waiting too long and (at worst) can swap out your system. Even months later, I'm still pretty frustrated from my laptop dying. So, I would not blame you in the slightest for swearing off of Macs.
@@GameXData thank you bro! are you saying, you are still getting the panics even after the maintenance?
@kurd English Naw, I haven't had any panics since the logic board was swapped out. Rather, it's frustrating that it happened at all. It was the first time a laptop of mine failed so badly it wasn't usable anymore.
@@GameXData since when it's running smoothly?
@kurd English That’s right. No hardware-related issues since then. I use it to edit all videos for this channel and do graphic design work; performance has been great.
Over the weekend of 1/15/2023 my MacBook experienced a series of kernel panics. The panics seemed to resolve after a clean reinstall and following the troubleshooting steps Apple listed, but they returned again. Eight days after the panics began the motherboard began to fail. The initial visit to the Apple Store determined a software issue but the panics actually happened due to motherboard issues.
The problem has since been fixed but it took a month to do so. The motherboard issues that led to the kernel panics affected the motherboard of the adapter not the Mac.
Could be your internal SSD is dying
Do you know if Kernal panics corrupts data/files? I've had a panic maybe 3 times since I had this computer (MacBook Pro 2021 model M1 Max) in February of 2022 and have been working on an album of music since then. My fears is that my project files could get corrupted from these incidents if they start to happen more often or do these panics safely restart your Mac in a way that doesn't subject your files to corruption?
I hadn't experienced any loss or corruption when I was having the panics. Although, it did get to the point where I wasn't able to access my files at all for quite some time (since the laptop wouldn't turn on). In general, I wouldn't think they'd cause any storage-related issues unless the shutdown happened while trying to read or write a specific file.
Still, I'd recommend making sure your files are regularly backed up to another device just in case. On my end, I have several high capacity hard drives that I use to back up RUclips projects, but Time Machine or even services like iCloud or OneDrive could work fine depending on the size of your project.
doesnt corrupt files unless you have 3 kernel panics
the 4th kernel panic corrupts files. it happened to my mac
Kernel panics have rendered my US$36,000 Mac Pro 2019 utterly unusable. Apple themselves in many Genius Bar visits and Support calls have been terribly unhelpful and ultimately useless in facilitating any reasonable resolution in line with owning up to their engineering mishaps. They now want to bill me for every component imaginable in the machine (that includes two GPUs at US$4000 a piece, a US$1300 logic board, and a US$1700 Afterburner card) without any understanding as to what could be the underlying issue(s). It’s - to put it in their own words - their humiliating “parts cannon” approach; nothing but throwing astronomically-expensive parts at the machine in hopes something sticks. Awful company with defective hardware and trash support. Never buy this POS - at least without an AppleCare+ warranty, that is - or they will have you in their stores at the flip of a switch. So much for "it just works". I should have just listened to the rest of the ML community and gotten a custom-built PC instead of try to stand by a company who views users as cash cows they can gouge incessantly for their gain.
Holy crap, that sucks. This feels like the worst possible situation for all this, and I'm sorry you have to go through it.
Update on my situation for anyone interested: Apple replaced the logic board, but that didn’t resolve the issue. So as of now, they have given up trying to help and instead downgraded me to macOS Ventura and told me to wait for an update “and see if it fixes the issue”.
Had to sell I-mac and purchase 2018 Intel Mac mini to get away from this issue Mac to this day ( over 2 years later) refuses to acknowledge.
I Got the same problem
good video,though something else to consider is a need for macOS,for the same reason you (likely,idk you) feel you can't just switch to linux (at least,not without changing your workflow) ,many mac users cannot switch to windows, and though hackintosh exists,its more of an enthusiast option (more along the lines of arch linux and gentoo).
though framework is a great option,you really get the feeling that they want to really give the most user-focused computers possible and a device you really own,im also a fan of system76 and will likely go for them for my next device.
I have a 2019 Macbook pro 16” w/ intel i9 and 64GB ram 2TB ssd and also started crashing with kernel panic under heavy work load so this issue is not only with the M series. I tested the RAM with memtest86 and it appears to be a RAM issue. The computer is out of warranty and I am pretty sure the repair is worth more then the computer. My last hope is figuring out how to disable access to the faulty address range of the ram. There is a script that can be ran before reboot available on Github but I am not (yet) technically capable to pull it off. Your video and my own experience does not make want to consider apple to use processionally in the future. I suppose if repairs are done under warranty then it’s not the end of the world but once your warranty expires … you are screwed.
Hey I have exactly the same model but with less ram and it works great …as a Linux machine haha it would panic and go nuts whenever I tried to boot into my macOS so as a temporary measure I switched to Linux instead while still trying to figure out if it’s the processor a guy who’s not refunding me for "repairs" told me it had something to do with the processor being faulty I think it might be one of the cores as an engineer myself I’m very curious about this whole idea of writing a script that would disable the faulty cores at least for testing purposes .the architecture of those MacBooks SUCKS
Use Windows; even if I encounter a pretty nasty crash, I won't have to replace the entire device... or you can Hackintosh!
You talk too much. Get to the point
I can't wait for the real messages/ clues/ solves, so quit in the middle.
reciting you mac thesis 🤨
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