Mac Screens of Death History and Why Computers Crash
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Macs can crash, like any computer. But what do their crashes look like, and how are they caused? Let's travel through time and figure that out now.
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Computer Clan e
Computer Clan Yes
!!! ive been watching you since the original video of this! so neat :D
K
Computer Clan never stop making videos
I submarine lightbulb cocktail.
He is speaking the language of gods.
NO!!!!!
@@washmonument wtf did he do?
5:49
Jackie Chan a
I SUBMARINE LIGHTBULB COCKTAIL
**facepalm**
I actually thought my phone crashed at first @ 00:05 for a few seconds
Sean Walla Walla Sameeee 😂
Ellyana Apetrechioae + Sean Walla Walla = Iphone?
me too
Me to
Yep, me too.
I don't even use a Mac, and yet I watch this video.
Why? Because it's a great video!
me too XD
Same
Same
MrCatFace 8885 I watching on iPad counts as Apple soz
same
I submarine lightbulb cocktail.
Bibasik7 I literally thought that that was a strand of hair
You are so out of style. We bois automobile mirror bread.
same
That's what she said.
😂😂
the fake panic actually made my heart stopped for a few seconds. I had a big Premiere project which I forgot to save.
LOL... the intro probably got you two views from me... I refreshed the browser when it started hanging.... LOL
Haha, that'll happen ; )
Clever ... might have to try it on a video of my own.... LOL
Same
Computer Clan i thouth it crashed
Animal Facts you can't view a video twice
The blinking folder w/ '?' isn't always THAT scary. Sometimes it can happen if the EFI partition loses it's boot flag somehow. A very easy fix.
A similar message on PCs would be "Operating system not found." or some other message that asks you to insert bootable media and press Enter (these would display after your PC attempts to search for a PXE device, since by default, network boot is usually set as the last thing in the boot order, but not always).
@@MarkusMaal ugh so bad
I’m gonna be honest.. I am super morbidly interested with computer viruses and crashes. My first, second, and third grade youtube history consisted of what happened when you deleted System 32 on various versions of Windows. I watched both the original Windows and Mac crash videos from you, so thank you for remaking the old Mac video.
Same honestly
You might like danooct1's channel. He makes videos talking about & demonstrating old-school computer viruses.
Y..YOU LIKE ERASING Sys32?!
Jokes on you, I was searching only for that at the time too.
Same. Except I watch these thinking "okay I won't get nightmares from death screens" then what do you know... I can't fall asleep. I do this to myself.
Buffer Chip: You Ok?
Memory Chip (broken): I submarine lightbulb cocktail.
Me: (laughing uncontrollably)
*wheeze*
Chip ded
*WHEEZE*
Memory: 10110011101100111011001120-
System: ok wha- ruclips.net/video/EGAKwUhYDsA/видео.html
I epic century now
*I submarine lightbulb cocktail*
*yes*
I submarine lightbulb cocktail
Indeed my friend
Yes
xd
Lol. That intro.
*I SUBMARINE COCKTAIL*
Snapp *I S U B M A R I N E L I G H T B U L B C O C K T A I L*
*I SUBMARINE LIGHTBULB COCKTAILS*
You ok?
I SUBMARINE LIGHTBULB COCKTAIL
*THE F*?@# HAPPEND?*
Lightbulb cocktail!!!
my laptop crashed during the "show" part of that intro
Did it really? Or was it just the video messing with you?
i think it was both actually
Computer Clan mine kernel panicked at that point, I guess Ubuntu 8.04 is finally too out of date xD
@@JohnJ-xm3fg Erm... Do you mean 18.04 or 8.04? Because 8.04 must be very old by now...
@@bottinator22 He probably did mean 18 04 because if it was 8 04 it would of updated already
That buffer and ram bucket graphic actually did a really good job of explaining what a Buffer Overflow is IMO. Good stuff.
*When connecting an iPad as a second screen, it sometimes crash reboots the iMac connected to it, and thus the kernel panic shows on the second screen and not the primary screen. Of course, YMMV.*
CLaP cLaP
*ClaP*
I've had the kernel panic happen a lot on my second hand iBook.
When I brought it to the repair shop, they checked it out and told me it was caused by bad solder connections (most likely due to the system having been too hot at some point).
And ofcourse the guy I bought it from, denied that there was anything wrong with it.
That's when I decided to spend a little more and buy a new Macbook, and I still have that one. I might install an SSD in it though, since it's getting quite slow.
Naomi Baron BUy another iBook or PowerBook CX
@@NuuweiLol It's cheaper to swap pieces of the system...
RIGHT?
Sorry I was dumb 3 years ago
I ended up getting a second hand 2015 Macbook Pro that had an ssd installed on it and it's a pretty cool machine. If it still had an hdd in it though, it would've been a NIGHTMARE to use.
0:03 I thought my computer was about to bsod
TechNerd22 I thought my phone was going to crash but no set the bank
I light 💡 coktail
Luigi lol
Bluescreens typically give out a hint of their appearence by freezes audio by repeating 1 frame over and over again before displaying the error on the screen
5:33 That example actually comes under “corruption”, I would say.
Another option would be to start discarding data from the buffer. This is called a “buffer overrun”.
YOU FRIKN SCARED ME IN THE BEGINNING I THOUGHT MY IPAD WAS BROKEN
Omg same here! Lol
Not me
HELLO not me either
Same
Yes very much true
You got me I thought my phone died
I thought my phone was gonna reboot
Lol I thought my AirPods broke
Me too
I thought RUclips crashed.
I thought RUclips was glitching in a buffering way.
I've been a Mac user for years, and to date I've only experienced a single Kernel panic. And that was actually only a week or so ago, I was using my 2009 white Macbook (It's not my main machine, don't worry) and in the middle of the RUclips video I was watching, it just crashed. It was kinda surreal since I had seen kernel panics before but never on my machine. It restarted and resumed just fine, however.
Best part at 5:46
*I SUBMARINE LIGHTBULB COCKTAIL.*
lol
Alex McCulloch I just lost it at that point
Eli Smigel COCk
@Golden Freddy 986 heres a kid/young kid
*Undefined*
I'm gonna sho... ooo... ooo... ooo... ooo... ooo... ooo... ooo...
(crashes)
Hahahahaha hahla
0:39 look at the top text on the sad Mac picture
OOOOOOOF
Classic Macs predicted Roblox
@@gummychocolate1906 lol
A dirty OSX installer disc can sometimes kernel panic on boot. For me, it spat out log info too, as well as the dark curtain dropping. Apparently it couldn't read my iBook G4 machine defs file or something. (This is an example of a Corrupted Data scenario)
9:20 Fun fact: My bootcamp partition recently started displaying the ghostbusters symbol (before booting into MacOS) when I try to boot into it. Yet another reason to do a reinstall there.
I've gotten two of those and both were scary. The kernel panic happened when one of my ram ports fried. The blinking folder was much scarier but it ended up being a wire and apple actually fixed it for a decent price
>decent price
>$999.99
I almost started laughing like mad at "I submarine lightbulb cocktail." My roommate is across the room sleeping at the moment, and has to work today, so I had to stop myself.
Well done with your descriptions of the various problems that can show up.
Gfugfif
what is called the background music in 7:30?
The Hackintosh guys are tired of those freaking panics. :P
God, interesting to see this uploaded, the original "Screens of Death" video was what introduced me to y'all. Congrats on stickin around so long Ken.
-Signed, a longtime fan.
Wow! You must’ve been around a long time! Thanks for tagging along.
Computer Clan Sure have been around a long time! Been almost... 10 years now I think? It's weird to think abt to be honest.
Computer Clan, Fantastic video. Just replaced the hard drive on an old intel macbook white that someone gave me. Upgraded the ram and OS as far as I could go. Having a recovery point in windows saved me from my own ignorance many times and I never needed to reinstall the OS.
The mac is still a mystery to me and everything seems more complicated. The Apple ecosystem is not something I can afford and I prefer to stay away from the cloud.
You'd think there would be a better solution than a hard boot. I've experienced all of the crashes you mentioned and other than the old hard drive failing, the problems I've had involve software and system corruption. I'll keep learning and muck along as long as possible.
5:48 I lost it, laughing a lot
I’ve seen these quite a bit. I’ve sometimes DTRACE’d my macs for fun, other times, these were legit. I got the ghostbusters on my PB G4 while trying to boot the 10.3.2 installer, the kernel panic on the same computer (but it showed the graphic on startup and then log info... turns out the particular version was incompatible), but the worst was when my old SSHD failed. I was in the middle of a live discord call when the computer froze up. I had to force shut down the computer, and when I booted back up, I got a gray screen, beeping, clicking, and after about 10 minutes, I was greeted with the dreadful blinking question mark icon. My SSHD had given up on me... in less than a year.
Rip.
You were using Discord on an old OS X version?
@@MadameSomnambule how did you find out
9:03 And you will get the prohibitory symbol on the icon of a program if it is not compatible with your mac. You can also encounter this symbol if you have a Droplet with no properties. Two little fun facts for you viewers.
Heh. I used to be on computers *a lot* in elementary school. At that time, they had Macs with various versions between 10.2 and 10.4 (the "phat log" never showed up nor did the screen with Spanish), and I saw the kernel panic a few times... But usually it was the white background one (10.2). Unrelated but interesting: The school seemed to know of my interests, and one day some staff member actually took me out of the classroom I was in (probably in 2nd or 3rd grade, not sure) and let me see the room where the servers were located.
Edited to fix typo.
My dad once got on his Mac and this show up:
S Y S T E M N O T F O U N D
what
Tom nook: drags all computer files to trash bin .
Also Tom nook: his computer went into the abyss
It shouldn’t say “System Not Found” it should just display a blinking question Mark on a floppy disc or folder
wait...
Damn you got me there Ken!
Great video to help show me what info would appear on the Mac OS X 10.0 crash screen, since I'm making a simulator of it in Scratch right now!
Chip 2 during the overflow explanation is nightmare fuel.
One of the best and simplest explanation about how computers crash! Great video, Ken!
You also got me there at 0:03, I thought it was a RUclips glitch or my browser crashed.
Also, what programming languages are you familiar with?
1) Thanks!
2) Yep, that'll happen ; )
3) None. I know of many, but don't how to write in them.
Computer Clan Thanks for answering! Do you know anything about Python? I can't find any online courses that suit me. Can you help me?
I use Visual Studio 2015
I had a overflow before, it was when I crashed in gmod then I had to shut down my PC then hit cancel on the shut down to close the frozen screen, but things kept closing so then I reopened steam, and both Microsoft edge , then at a split second I saw my task manager's memory, it was touching the max memory, then I got a blue screen.
(edit ; not sure if this is a overflow but i just put this random story here)
9:50 i got a macbook air 2 years ago,and in 1 month,the missing folder icon is showing up,and we took it to the store where i bought it,and they booted me to safe mode,and i tried installing the os on safe mode,but it gives me a error message,and i took it to my cousin who works at a certified reseller apple store,and she said that my harddrive is broken or fried.
and i got a new macbook air replacement.i am so lucky i got the guarentee.
My Macintosh SE Recently gave me this issue. I’m trying to fix it but I don’t know where to start.
Great video btw. Keep it up!
I found you
Now I’m curious as to what death screens exist for Linux outside of the “Kernel Panic”.
Kernel Panic is actually referred to the: Grey Screen Of Death, or GSOD. It is based on Windows BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH (BSOD).
When it became more graphical, it became: White Screen Of Death. In 10.6 it is Black Screen Of Death.
It is not based on Windows blue screen of death.
@@disketteguyI think they meant the community name for it
It's very common for my MacBook Pro to get a death screen because it has the fatal flaw that most mid 2010 MacBook Pro's have where the dedicated GPU crashes the system because of a malfunctioning capacitor on the logic board. I haven't made the attempt to fix it and I just live with it, using gfx Card Status to use integrated graphics.
I have installed Linux Mint and to my surprise, it works just fine without crashing. I have open source drivers installed for it and not the official drivers and it works just fine. I haven't experienced crashing and I can use it normally.
Awesome video! I remember when spotify was causing kernel panics for me quite often. I was on 10.9 so resume was implemented, but if I did resume, it would trigger the kernel panic again since it tried to open spotify again. XD
3:56
my computer made me think that you said "resource B and resource B"
EXPLAIN WHY THE HELL IS MY COMPUTER DOING THIS?
I’ve been lucky, haven’t had any “death screens” in years, with the famous Blue Screen of Death. It was mostly trigger when we’d game on the pc. Otherwise we never really have any crashes. With the system anyway ;)
Same with me. I do have the occasional sad face bsod on Windows 11 once in a blue moon, but the most often I've ever seen a bsod was when I gamed on a Windows 98 pc as a kid. Sometimes I'd even get an old fashioned Windows 3.1 style error window back then, which was kinda neat in retrospect, it usually happened with older games from the 90s.
Great content, just as always.
Thank you ^^
This was uploaded on my birthday! Cool!
me: computer you okay?
computer: I submarine lightbulb cocktail 5:51
me:wtf
The computer knows the history.
I've always known a Deadlock as a softlocked program buffer, where it'll keep requesting with wait states until it uses up a critical amount of memory. At least with some Linux distros I've used coughPeppermintOScough
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The Kernel Panic (the simpler one) can sometimes occur after there was error log info on the screen. I got kernel panics over and over after i accidentally interrupted a mac update.
The desth chime happens when the system has a major hardware fault, and is a fraction of the speed of the crash chime, or entirely different.
0:04 I thought my I pad had a blue screen for a second or so
HOW IT IS A IPAD AND A IPAD CANT GET A BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH
Samfionntoby Samfionntoby big brain
Grace Perez it can have a BSOD actually
Samfionntoby Samfionntoby ?? No?
@@samfionntobysamfionntoby8793 No, the BSoD is a Windows kernel crash screen, built in to NTOSKRNL.exe, and because Macs, iPads, iPhones can't read exe files, they therefore cannot BSoD without firmware tweaking.
I like how far you guys have gone.
Wish you had more subscribers though.
*notice me*
I wish so, too. But maybe it’s for the better, right now : )
Oh, thank you, by the way.
Computer Clan *I HAVE BEEN NOTICED*
I have experienced freezeups on OS X 10.7.5 whiteout a kernel panic being shown. Wonder why?
I was running a windows 7 vm in virtualbox and and it was updating and then my computer restarted, I got the kernel panic at startup but my computer started normally after that. Nothing was damaged. It could have been either thrashing or an overflow.
0:03 when my car won't start
When it said Sho-o-o-o I looked at my computer then saw that lol
The System Not Found will also occur if you format (and reinstall Mac OS X) the disk or replace the disk when an EFI firmware password is enabled. I have this problem on a Mac I have currently.
The charge of the MacBook Pro went out at 4%. Then the boot up was taking forever. Tried booting from snow leopard install cd, death screen, but it was the log info. Using Mac OS Lion on the Hard Drive. Need help
"You OK?"
"I me are do exist flamingo pizza part chart"
I actually got a kernel panic once on High Sierra
Mr. Bleach so have I they are fairly common if you have a dying Mac, my MBP 2011 did them all the time before the GPU completely died and I had to replace
Toby Cowles But my MacBook Air is only 1 year and 8 months old
I once had a bad stick of RAM in my iMac that was causing panics, so if it happens often the issue could be hardware-related. If only once or twice then there's nothing to worry about.
I SUBMARINE LIGHTBULB COCKTAIL.
xd when i downloaded high serria my mac book pro restarted itself and all data was corrupted. idk why.
Something about the old mac crash sounds are quite unsettling
I had the system not found icon appear once with a working hdd in a 2007 MacBook.
The problem was that the rubber inside to hold the hdd still had blocked the sata connector and pushed one side of the hdd out and you could hear it spin up but it couldn’t send it’s data to the MacBook but I fixed it by getting the rubber out
My second Mac ever, I had trouble resetting the computer, and I accidentally erased the entire system without an Internet connection, so I could not install the Mac operating system. Surprise, surprise, I got the System Not Found icon.
Another reason: Hardware fault.......
they said they wouldn't include every reason in the video, there are plenty of reasons
5:32 Don't worry! Chip #2 is fine!
I tried to find a picture of the broken folder icon but I couldn’t find it- does anybody know where I can see what it looks like?
I was traumatized by a Sad Mac on my parents' Macintosh Performa when I was 4 years old. :)
The OS X kernel panics also tended to spook me when they showed up on our aluminum Intel iMac; I was around 9-10 by then.
I recently got a new MacBook Pro and it did happen to KP yesterday - I don't even think I saw the message that it had restarted; all I saw was the dialog after logging back in. Is it weird that I miss little kid me getting scared to hell and back by Mac crash screens?
I thought my phone froze at the beginning :,0
*_I SUBMARINE LIGHTBULB COCKTAIL_*
ABSOLUTELY ME TOO
I was using random videos as background noise and your pc crash joke weirdly synced with a lag spike on my game, I was terrified...
Ken, do you know that errors or Death screens may appear due to overheating, which may effect the parts of your computer, for example your GPU, or your SSD or HDD?
I have Overflows a lot so it resets my pc before the data get corrupted
TheEmeraldGamer w
well at least your computer has a strong immune system
Kernel panic looks like minecraft when u press f3
I also submarine lightbulb cocktail, glad we have that in common.
This was the first CC video I watched! (I don’t watch things in order ;-;)
3:30
My computer when my daughter plays roblox for 8 hours straight
Stop. Please
Your daughter: fine...
CHIP 1: Stop, please.
Me: screw you.
2:18 One reason: Windows 10
True, freaking bloatware choked OS.
Haha i see your a windows user hater
The Spinning Beach ball also occurred on Start up every time I turn on my Mac.
so this is weird my Mac always says I got a kernel panic after I restart it says your Mac restarted because of a problem when I purposefully restarted it and its very weird, I have never gotten the please reboot ur Mac screen aka you need to restart your computer screen that you normally see on a kernel panic. help (I have a 2019 MacBook Pro 16 inch spec'd out
Am I seriously the first one that didn’t fall for the prank at 0:03/0:04?
InsaneRUclipsGD I did because my RUclips freezes sometimes
I didn't fall for it either, because I saw the progress bar moving and I have a good internet and PC.
No
6:12 VIRUS LIKE MEMZ
What if it displays log info on startup? I have a tower Mac computer that’s about 10 years old and can not upgrade os but when I boot it up it just displays log info and refuses to do anything else.
0:59 No, MacsBug was the full-fat low-level debugger, which was not in ROM but had to be loaded from disk. The one in ROM was very limited, and had another name like “MiniBug”, which I can’t actually remember now.
Yep. I botched that part.
No joke, when the into stutters, the actual video stutters what
You've only witnessed the surface of my magic powers.
@@ComputerClan Why does the sad mac have 000000F
0000003
who else heard ''deadlock'' and got reminded of deadlocked from gd? idk maybe i just love gd too much
You got me. lol
?
I remembered Deadlocked too.
wth am i doing
me
i had the blinking folder with a question mark before. its because in the middle of an installation of an update from high sierra to big sur i got impatient and shut it down and turned it on again. i had to reinstall macOS
Back when I had my 2012 MacBook Air when I was using Mac OS X.11 and I remember it crashed about 2 times, one time it crashed when trying to load a RUclips video, and another time when I tried to start it from sleep mode, I don't know why though. I decided to reinstall the system to OS 10.8.5 and it never crashed again.
1s-s-s-s-s-s-s
(crash)
1st
Edit: Never mind. I am in fact first.
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ERROR 404
Your Macintosh has ran into an undefeatable program and cannot delete it. Macintosh Software will shut down forever. Please do not restart your computer, or your software will not be able to ever function correctly and will actually shut down forever. If you stay out of a 1 foot radius for 1 month, Macintosh may or may not recover enough to refunction.
Su Macintosh se ha encontrado con un programa invencible y no puede eliminarlo. El software Macintosh se cerrará para siempre. No reinicie su computadora, o su software no podrá funcionar correctamente y se apagará para siempre. Si permanece fuera de un radio de 1 pie durante 1 mes, Macintosh puede o no recuperarse lo suficiente como para volver a funcionar.
Votre Macintosh a rencontré un programme imbattable et ne peut pas le supprimer. Le logiciel Macintosh s'arrêtera définitivement. Veuillez ne pas redémarrer votre ordinateur, sinon votre logiciel ne pourra jamais fonctionner correctement et s'arrêtera définitivement pour toujours. Si vous restez en dehors d'un rayon de 1 pied pendant 1 mois, Macintosh peut ou non récupérer suffisamment pour fonctionner à nouveau.
Uw Macintosh is een onverslaanbaar programma tegengekomen en kan het niet verwijderen. Macintosh-software wordt voor altijd afgesloten. Start uw computer a.u.b. niet opnieuw op, anders zal uw software nooit meer correct kunnen functioneren en zal deze voor altijd worden afgesloten. Als u gedurende 1 maand buiten een straal van 1 voet blijft, kan Macintosh al dan niet voldoende herstellen om opnieuw te functioneren.
Ваш Macintosh столкнулся с непобедимой программой и не может удалить ее. Программное обеспечение Macintosh будет закрыто навсегда. Пожалуйста, не перезагружайте компьютер, иначе ваше программное обеспечение не сможет функционировать должным образом и фактически закроется навсегда. Если вы находитесь в радиусе 1 фута в течение 1 месяца, Macintosh может восстановиться, а может и не восстановиться.
您的Macintosh遇到了无法修复的程序，无法将其删除。 Macintosh软件将永远关闭。请不要重新启动计算机，否则您的软件将永远无法正常运行，并且实际上将永远关闭。如果您不在1英尺半径范围内停留1个月，则Macintosh可能无法恢复到足以恢复功能的状态。
My PC crashes by just sleeping the PC.
Edit: How did this get popular?
My -computer- LAPTOP crashes when I play roblox but not other games like CPI
Vector V. My computer crashed once when I was playing Roblox
Lightning Gaming PRØ i used to be VectorV my username is now totesswiss
On my gaming PC. I was on Roblox studio and it crashed
Lightning Gaming PRØ same
My PC crashes with NotePad.
Can you use the Mac software that comes with the computer if you get the circle w/ a line through it to repair the hd?
The prohibitory sign will also appear after a recurrent kernel panic (5 or more kernel panics in 1 minute).
I thought Macs weren't supposed to crash? That is what the Apple commercials say.
Ryan Toomey well Windows crashes, iOS crashes, android crashes, macOS crashes, Linux crashes etc its normal
well they don't get errors but they will have to restart sometimes to fix a problem with the software
My Mac definatly crashes way less than my Windows computer, but at the end it's all amazing machines that can fail sometimes. And that's not the reason why people love macOS, it's because of how beautiful and well built the OS and hardware are. Windows is pretty cool and all, but there's something special about macOS that I can't explain
Everything crashes
@The Spicy Meme, if everything crashes, humans don't crash.
Deadlock? More like deadlocked.
Geometry dash
dun dun dun dun dududuDUN
I used to play Geometry Dash, and I stopped.
ha, haha, ha haha haha haha, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I get it •v•
Geometry Dash! :D
I had a kernel panic happen to me before and I know it was an overflow because I was streaming some Minecraft with obs so yeah... obvious and it just shut off the computer and then showed the Kernel panic and then I had to restart it and I just saw the newer version of the kernel panic. There was no curtain or Apple after it.... so is that a different type of thing?
1:31 'panic: We are hanging here...' Sort of creepy.
I've always wondered who the nebulous "we" is.