Iron man fought Thanos when Thanos had about or 4 infinity stones . So God forbid a trained military man with a lot of experience fights a giant monster while wearing a vibranium suit.
it's still ludicrous no matter how you spin this. This should not be a fight. Unless Red Hulk is vastly underpowered which doesn't seem to be the case. So I call BS as Cap couldn't beat Hulk so how the hell can a non powered person, vibranium suit or not beat a Hulk. It's just plot convenience because it's Sams movie.
My God... if anyone can restore my faith in the MCU... its an Anthony Mackie led Captain America film. I hope for this movie so much. Mackie has the potential to OWN this. i hope the writing is up to par
No, no, no. It’s simple: This is DEI Captain America. When Red Hulk attacks, DEI Captain America will give him a lecture on white privilege and micro aggressions in the work place and Red Hulk will simply feel bad as an overly privileged white male and sympathize with Captain America while donating a substantial amount of money to BLM and the Dem party.
@tortiajackson7071 That's how they normally defeat him and given falcons background in military counseling It would be a different way of going about that
@mlggamer5296 Again, make it a 20-30 minute What If episode theres a reason why it's been re shot 3-4 times now. Doesn't make any sense to be a 2 hour movie
I just stopped arguing with myself about this. I am just gonna go see the movie and see for myself how the fight goes and then decide if it was believable enough. Showing that Wakanda scene would be awesome though! If they include Queen Shuri in this and show Sam actually receiving the Vibranium Suit from her in-person, then that'd automatically add a lot to the movie. Like he first wears the white and blue suit from the TV Show to go up against sidewinder, but then Shuri upgrades it to the better version from the new trailer, that'd be amazing to watch!
I think if sam had the serum, he could put up a good fight but won't win. In my opinion, Red Hulk shouldn't just be a one-off villain. It should end with red Hulk escaping and coming back later in a Hulk movie. Red Hulk should be around for awhile. So I think red hulk should win or it ends with red Hulk escaping and coming back later where Sam has help from bruce banner and she-hulk. Favorite Hero: Batman
With the serum he'd be able to dodge hits and heal quicker. But with serum still can't hurt hulk. Vibranium weapons maybe judo and pressure points with serum strength maybe hurt him but hulks heal super quick
@@joshuaw9675 there's zero evidence Shuri is 'doing her own thing'. She _is_ the Tony Stark of Wakanda. Until there's any proof she didn't, she made the suit. You can't just make up shit.
There's hints that Sterns is mindcontrolling Red Hulk. So Sam's probably going to try to get through Red's rage to reach Ross inside him. Ross really doesn't have a beef with Wilson outside of getting Cap to become an official government agent, so he doesn't have a reason to fight unless something's influencing him.
Let’s not forget that when Emil got the serum that the Hulk couldn’t even tag him, until he stood still and thought he could take the Hulk head on. So giving that Sam got wings & a shield made out of vibranium I’m not selling him short. Not to mention he is military with those wings. So, yeah no serum but the wings just substitute his reflex and strength if not better. This was answered when he saved the armored car in the show falcon and winter soldier.
It would be awesome to see them bring back the Incredible Hulk from 2008 to go toe-to-toe with Red Hulk and if Red Hulk is as enraged as they are playing him to be this would be a good time to bring him back in.
My theory is: The suit can absorb energy, what if it's able to store the energy and build it up to the capacity of Hulk's strength and then Sam is able to throw back a couple of Hulk sized punches? Maybe he can't go supersonic either until after colliding with that missile?
To be fair, he has a freaking vibranium suit and the shield. Honestly, this version of him could probably even beat certain suits of ironman since he has those powerful wings
The probability of Sam performing in an enhanced vibranium suit sounds interesting. But that’s a lot of force to endure; pounds of power from Red Hulk. I’m hoping we get Hulk, She Hulk, Ant man and Shang Chi coming into the fight.
Regarding the Super Soldier serum ..... (1) New Captain does NOT NEED THE SERUM... 1a) Because he does NOT need super-strength to make him a good fighter and/or tactical combat. This is dependent on skill and training especially when he also has the strongest materials on earth (VIBRANIUM and possibly Adamantium) in his combat arsenal. This is sufficient to battle against superior strength opponents. 1b) All the feats of strength or durability New Captain America has done came AFTER he got the VIBRANIUM upgrades towards the end of FaTW/ Falcon and the Winter Soldier tv series (2019) meaning it is the vibranium doing the work of strength and durability. New Captain America is simply making application of those tools. Here is a hint, look at the strength feats Bucky/ Winter Soldier did in FATW and the recent THUNDERBOLTS special look trailer.... He uses his VIBRANIUM ARM to do those feats yet he also has super-serum so ask yourself why he never uses his natural arm. And guess what?.... Bucky's Vibranium arm is performing for stronger feats than his previous arm. There is NO serum inside the vibranium arm and yet see what Bucky is doing with it.... Basically application of tools into action just like New Captain America. Bucky may has the serum, can run faster and physically stronger in his biological body due to the serum BUT THE VIBRANIUM DOES NOT NEED SERUM TO WORK. 1c) It is actually a cool idea that New Captain America does NOT take the serum because..... i) ..... It teaches that skill and talent when applied well with the right tools can pay off even against greater odds. A good work ethic. ii)..... It also shows that just because you are not enhanced on steroids or don't have superpowers does NOT mean that you can not be a superhero or do good especially when the superhero name has a COUNTRY in the name.... Captain AMERICA. iii)..... It also teaches that ANY AMERICAN with the heart for a better America and a better safer world can be worthy of Captain America. That is why the superhero name is "Captain AMERICA" NOT Captain White American or Captain Arab American or Captain Catholic American or Captain Buddhist American, etc. iv) ... Sam's wings hint at the American Eagle on the American Coat of Arms which is genius and very fitting for anyone labelled "Captain America". Steve Rogers initially hard 'wings' on his helmet to symbolize the American Eagle but ACTUALLY having wings to fly like the eagle is more fitting in my opinion. v).... If Sam took the super soldier serum, he would become a cheap copy n paste of Steve Rogers like the terrible one in FATW who chosen by the gov't then unchosen. That dude thought just having a flag on his chest + a shield + + serum automatically makes him worthy yet he did NOT have the morality that Steve saw in Sam which he why Steve chose same as his successor. If Sam took the serum it would severely diminish his individuality and uniqueness he brings to the mantle and legacy of captain america. This would be EXACTLY the complaint y'all would be ranting about if Sam took the serum. All this is NOT knocking on the brilliance of Steve Rogers but rather exalting the morals and beliefs he stands for. He was willing to sacrifice himself to save others BEFORE he got enhanced and he was told that he could die if the experiment failed but that did NOT phase him because he believed he was doing it for the betterment of humanity (2) Lastly, our smart self professed science nerd himself Spiderman said the VIBRANIUM shield "does NOT obey the laws of physics" in Captain America 3: Civil War. That line was not placed there by mistake. It is an outta-jail-free-card to say you do NOT need super-strength to be able to use the shield. Besides, we have seen several NORMAL PEOPLE WITH NO SUPERPOWERS carrying around the shield easily because the vibranium shield VERY light-weight despite its grandiose durability and it's bouncy freesbie-like properties. I bet a normal human freesbie champion can also use the shield very well (3) Oh. Just one more. New Captain VS Rulk is directly inspired from the several themes of Man vs Monster in several myths and legends which gave birth to the "underdog" when the hero is stacked against superior odds but still finds some cool way with the aid of a handy POWERFUL tool or clever trick to achieve victory so i am eagerly fascinated looking forward to see how New Captain VS Rulk will be resolved. Either way, i am hyped for that fight and for the movie in general. (4) MCU is NOT 1=1 with Marvel Comics and have never been. That has been pretty OBVIOUS from day one from the MCU started.
For the uninformed...... (1) Steve Rogers is about 185 years old now. He got very old and elderly and chose Sam to be his successor as the New Captain America in AVENGERS ENDGAME movie 2019. (2) In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today alongside Steve Rogers in the comics. (3) Legacy characters.... 3a)... Superheroes lore has a tradition of sidekicks and LEGACY characters for OVER 50 YEARS so superheroes can and have transfered and/or given and/or shared and/or picked-up their mantle with other characters. There are an abundance in superhero-dom from Blue Beetle, Flash, Green Lantern, Spiderman, Batman, Superman, Antman, Hulk, Human Torch, Spawn, Robin, The Queston, Solar/ Doctor Solar, The Atom, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Doctor Fate, Zorro, The Spectre, Mister Miracle, Doctor Midnite, etc and so on. They are VERY many. 3b) ... Other than Sam Wilson becoming Captain America, there have been at least FIVE other Captain Americas other than Steve Rogers* like William Naslund, Jeffrey Mace, John Walker (currently U.S Agent in MCU after his failed Captain America stint on Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series), William Burnside and James "Bucky" Barnes/ Winter Soldier. 3c) ....Notice grifters only focus on legacy characters who are NOT White inherently implying only non-whites become legacy characters which is definitively NOT true. They make it sound like Sam Wilson is the first ever legacy character to have the mantle in order to conflate this to "DEI" Rwwaaar🤣. They *NEVER* mention the other characters who also became Captain America. Lol 3d).... Notice the same grifters demand that only the original character superhero should matter yet many of the most popular superheroes are NOT the originals like Flash- Barry Allen is NOT the original Flash (Jay Garrick), Hal Jordan is NOT the original Green Lantern (Alan Scott), Ted Kord is NOT the original Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Johnny Storm of FANTASTIC FOUR is NOT the original Human Torch (Jim Hammond), etc and so on. (4) Red Hulk generates heat the angrier he gets. It is also his weakness if he generates too much it overwhelms him. New Cap has vibranium suit + wings + shield ( possibly rumored adamantium) which is plenty for him to drag out the fight long enough for Red Hulk/ RULK to overheat. (5) Sam has vibranium SUIT + Vibranium WINGS + Vibranium SHIELD + Adamantium also inside this movie (according to rumors). All these enhancements with such powerful materials are much STRONGER than IRONMAN's Hulkbuster armor made from ordinary materials which had NO vibranium and NO Adamantium yet Tony Stark used that to defeat an ENRAGED Hulk in Avengers 2: Age of Ultron including cracking Hulk's jaw and even tanked some hits from Hulk AND knocked a tooth out of Hulk's mouth. With those upgrades (vibranium + possible adamantium), Sam has a better chance fighting any Hulk in a dragged out combat against Red Hulk/ RULK as long as he fights smart and tactical just long enough for Sam and/or bis colleagues to to find a way to incapacitate Red Hulk/ Rulk. They have shown in the trailer how Sam's wings and suit and shield TANKING direct missiles hits without flinching and NO DAMAGE. Sam is shown using that vibranium enhancements to move FASTER THAN SOUND, making a heavy landing and TANKING sonic boom still NO DAMAGE because of the vibranium. Trailer also shows the wings can be used offensively to cut/ slice stuff like he did to the burning vehicle. They are not showing us all that in the trailer by accident. Go watch the THUNDERBOLTS trailers and see what Bucky is doing WITH HIS VIBRANIUM ARM which he can NOT do with his super soldier serum enhanced biological arm. EDIT: Additional insight on Steve Rogers age mentioned in (1)... .... He was about 90years old when he defrosted from the ice at the end of Captain America 1 movie which brought him into the modern era in 2011 then when you add Steve's modern era time in Captain America 2+3 and Avengers 1,2,3 + 4 (9 years, 2011-2019) AND when Steve time travelled back to the mid-1940s to return to his lover PEGGY CARTER then lived through 1940s to 2019 (additional 70s years at least) AND Steve's age (about mid-20s) in Captain America 1 before he got stuck in suspended animation in the ice. All adds up to about 180 years old. This is because Steve went through about 73 years 1946 to 2019 TWICE = 146 years + His years in modern era (2011-2019)= 9 years + His initial age before he got stuck in ice in mid-1940s= mid-20s perhaps 25 years old (estimate) + 5 year time jump Estimated TOTAL age (in the end of AVENGERS ENDGAME movie, 2019) = 185years old
Quick question? If they swapped out Sam's cap with Steve Rogers cap in this new brave New World movie. same script, same action, same movie you just switch out sam with the OG cap. Will y'all still say this movie is trash?
@@mikecf1so yall issue isn’t because he’s not a super solider because Steve would’ve lost as well,I think it’s because Sam isn’t a certain complexion is why you guys are hating on the movie before it even comes out
@@Newportnews98 Take racist bullshit elsewhere. I said CA WITH the serum loses, therefore OF COURSE the guy WITHOUT the serum loses. Sorry if that logic is too complicated for you. And my original issue was NOT about him fighting RH, it was about how when he initially became the new CA he magically had the strength to suddenly throw that shield around at 100 MPH with deadly accuracy even though no regular person on the planet could do that. Go back to 7th grade English and learn to read before you try to call somebody racist.
@@Newportnews98 That's because you don't read. Earlier I said I hate Hawkeye for the exact same reason! And in another reply I said Mackie is great but his character is awful. Take the L and move on.
I’m just going to leave this here: For anyone saying Sam should take the serum, in a recent interview Anthony Mackie went into depth of about Sam’s new capabilities. He said, he doesn’t have super soldier serum, but his suit enhances all his skills. I believe they’re giving Sam Wilson the Black Panther treatment without the fruit. Or similar to the Midnight Angels like Okoye. So Sam with a cross between (vibranium, Adamantimum)shield, boots and armor, more agile, flying at faster speeds, punching harder and kicking harder, sounds pretty good to me, it’s like a Exo- Super suit that enhances your abilities without the serum, that way it doesn’t affect Sam’s character. Hope it’s good. Rooting for Captain Wilson 🙏🏾🔥
Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely to happen? No. There is no precedence in the comics for Sam taking any physical enhancers so they probably wouldn't want to change his character in the movies by doing that.
That imagery with Sam not donning a helmet just boggles my mind. Even if he has new formidable suit, Red Hulk could speed-blitz him and turn Sam's noggin to mush. I hope it's just for promotional reasons and not due to "plot." Even with a new fit and presumed helmet, Sam doesn't have the serum, so it wouldn't make sense if he'd be able to go through their fight without taking some punches to the face.
I hope that Sam Wilson's Captain America will kick the Red Hulk's butt because the Red Hulk's weakness is anger because unlike the Green Hulk, whose powers is the madder he gets, the stronger he gets, The Red Hulk's powers is the absorb cosmic and gamma radiation and cause the increase heat out of his skin and cause intense heat. If Ross' Hulk gets too angry and more pissed off during the battle with either super heroes or villains, he can overload himself with lots of heat and eventually, not killing him, but passed out, so the Green Hulk is still the strongest hero there is. I hope we can see Sam Wilson kick the day lights out of the Red Hulk and bring him to justice. I hope the Green Hulk battles the Red Hulk in the big screen after the animated series Hulk and the Agents of SMASH where both the two Hulks fought each other and went in a huge battle.
Anyone remember that TFATWS season finale? The 6-week anticipation build, the WOWZA!!! payoff? When that shield comes crashing through that window, and Sam flies in a second later in his red, white, and blue glory, new vibranium wings. . . All you nerds simultaneously shat yourselves, and cheered anyway. Anyone remember that? This movie is gonna be straight fire, just wait.
It does, yeah. There was never an explanation for how Tony did it, and his armor was made of plain earth metals. Sam's suit is made with vibranium from space that absorbs energy and vibrations. He has a better excuse than Tony, but no one ever questions how Tony did it. I wonder why.
Its still going to be epic no matter what people say or think about it. And the fight will be great. And I do hope the team Sam is assembling is still himself, the new Falcon, Hulk, Hawkeye, Antman, Wasp, Shuri/Black Panther, War Machine, Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, Spider-Man, possibly Moon Knight, Daredevil and Tigra, which should be her first live action debut like how they did with both Spider-Man and Black Panther in Captain America: Civil War. And then Thor, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, and others joining later. Can't wait and love the MCU!!!
With a vibrainum suit yes he can plus many other things as well. Remember Black Panther suit was already in nanotechnology when he changed & didn't need to get out his clothes naturally remember?
Wow, I can't wait for this movie. Breaking the sound barrier!?!?! Man of Steel & Ironman did this. Black Panthers suit with Caps shield!?!?! This movie is already underrated 😮
Red Hulk was a general and has a strategic military mind and does not lose that when he's Hulk and just become and rampaging rage monster. Shouldn't be too easy to outsmart him
We all wish Sam could take the Super Soldier Serum but what we're forgetting is, Steve Rogers wouldn't even win against a hulk, I mean it's a hulk!!! I doubt Sam would win, he'd just find a way to either calm red hulk down or use some sort of serum that will turn him back to Ross. I don't care what suit he's wearing, I love him,, but there's no way he's taking down a hulk.
Cap's power set is basically going to be America's version of Black Panther. Im guessing minus the heart-shaped herb. It would be cool if he did get it though, honestly.
MCU vibranium does not absorb and release. BP’s second vibranium suit does. Shuri said it was something she added. Tchalla designed his first suit that didn’t redirect energy out of vibranium.
Damn I think you just read the same reply that I put on another website asking how could Sam and compete with the Red Hulk, and how I explain that people forgot that Sam's Captain America suit was made in wakanda and how is suit and wings Shield are all made from vibranium
Wait a minute so as a counselor Couldn't you just find ways to instead of helping him or reasoning with red hulk Couldn't He use like psychology or something that to make him more angry during the fight? I can see him fighting and then saying something like "you never had what it takes to catch banner that's why you failed everytime. Thats why you resorted to becoming a monster yourself" Mark my words if he says that exactly Or something to that Avail that's definitely gonna make him angrier
Can you do a video about who all from the Serpent Society are going to appear in this movie besides Sidewinder and what type of role are they going to play?
I defo believe he can be strong and all but him taking that hit in the poster is not believable. But man he’s gonna be hella cool flying with that shield
Well they mentioned adamantium in the trailer so could be made ot adamantium. Looking at the poster where hulkbis holding the shield, he bends it so may get an upgraded suit made if adamatium
When hulk first fought introducing scene Infinti War against Thanos, he had more inteligelence of fighting... But this duel 1 on 1? Poolhulk: nockoooooout!!!!!!!!!
You know all this time they haven't mentioned the leader at all during the trailers so i'm wondering does he even play a role Is it gonna be like a background villain?Is he gonna come back in the future? I think that needs to be answered
Sam's new suit must be based on the Midnight Angel power suit Shuri made for Okoye in BP: Wakanda Forever. That high tech vibranium suit gave Okoye Superhuman abilities. Im assuming Wakandan made vibranium enhancement suits are gonna largely replace the clunky Iron-Man suIts.
Wouldve been dope if he was given access to the artificial heart shaped herb and he met Steve Rogers was able to speak to him before coming back, i dont know. Thats just me
I knew it. I knew from day 1, but they had to deny it, and I completely understand. Sam needing super shoulder serum to fight the Red Hulk is not comic accurate and makes no sense to serve as the one and only way to handle the fight. There are plenty of ways to handle a fight like this while making it epic. Using a super suit as an upgrade for his abilities while proving a point that he doesn’t need the serum is more than fair. Sam deserves this upgrade, and I can’t wait to see him use it in future Marvel movies, especially when he goes toe to toe with Doctor Doom.
Now we get a red AARP Hulk. Also when Stark went against Hulk he had artificial intelligence, as well as the Hulk Buster Armor Suit. Yet we are to believe that Mackie can do this with no serum and only a flimsy suit?? Give me a break!!!
The fact that now it has to be explained, tells me that it's probably going to suck. Maybe his wings turn into a couch for Hulk to lay on and be psychoanalized by counselor America! I just don't think Marvel will ever find it's way back.
Seeing captain carter and black widow defeat ultron who had the infinity stones and then captain carter also defeating strange supreme. Both these scenarios tell me that anything is possible in the mcu, i.e. anybody can beat anybody, if the writers feel like it.
I don't know if the suit itself would be the one that It makes him win that battle because doesn't red hulk also absorb energy. Wouldn't they just go back-and-forth? It wouldn't really do much to red hulk unless that plays to his overheating
The suite gives him the edge but his military training will be key as a strategist plus Ross also a military man will falter a he gets angrier and the brute takes center stage I can't wait
Well...having a full vibranium suit makes sense..if hes to stand a chance against Red Hulk....still dont see inspite of all that, how he can defeat Red Hulk though.
I can see Why New Cap defeat RedHulk It makes sense😍 Since Ross doesn’t really know how to use the power😍 There’s only gonna be Only One Powerful Hulk😍That’s Bruce Banner😍The Character😍
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He’s gonna do a lullaby, “Sun’s going down big guy.”
that would be cringe
@@ItsJae_37it already is,they had to make a way to calm him down,smh.nurf everything anymore
Nahhh that would be funny😂😂
He will tell the Red Hulk to “do better” and that saves the day.
Lmao 🤣
@@Ready_Set_Boom then he tells him that he gotta step up!!! 🤣🤣
@Ready_Set_Boom Don't laugh but this is legit how Red Hulk became an antihero in the comics. Steve Roger's told him to grow a pair and man up.
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i cant 🤣
Iron man fought Thanos when Thanos had about or 4 infinity stones . So God forbid a trained military man with a lot of experience fights a giant monster while wearing a vibranium suit.
it's still ludicrous no matter how you spin this. This should not be a fight. Unless Red Hulk is vastly underpowered which doesn't seem to be the case. So I call BS as Cap couldn't beat Hulk so how the hell can a non powered person, vibranium suit or not beat a Hulk. It's just plot convenience because it's Sams movie.
@@barrysmith4610 well a non vibranium suit was able to beat the OG hulk
@@barrysmith4610😂 it’s a comic book movie dude, none of it is meant to reflect reality! Cry more
@mekiherring2088 that's the Hulk buster which I'm sure is stronger than whatever Sam is wearing. Bruh stop making excuses for them it's BS.
@AbsoluteTiger the only one crying and bitching here is you
Red hulk CGI looks better than professor hulk by far. Now all they have to do is restore his character, and we could have an actual duel
@mlggamer5296 nobody asked if you thought he did. Personally, I don't really care because I like both characters.
When they don't rush the vfx or cgi team like they used to
It shown
@@K-dawg26nobody asked you to comment on his comment could of scrolled past it shi
@@wayoblizt3926 Take your own advice, asshole.
I'd love to see a three-way fight between Hulk, Red Hulk and Abomination.
My God... if anyone can restore my faith in the MCU... its an Anthony Mackie led Captain America film. I hope for this movie so much. Mackie has the potential to OWN this. i hope the writing is up to par
I agree
Mackie is great, his character sucks.
Same here bro
I also believe in Sam. Steve gave him the shield because he believed in him. So i also believe that he can pull this one
@@3tone_Rythme no the writers gave Sam the shield for diversity and inclusion he didn’t earn shit
The only way I can see him beating red hulk is something about overheating. So make him really angry that he burns out and gets tired.
No, no, no. It’s simple: This is DEI Captain America. When Red Hulk attacks, DEI Captain America will give him a lecture on white privilege and micro aggressions in the work place and Red Hulk will simply feel bad as an overly privileged white male and sympathize with Captain America while donating a substantial amount of money to BLM and the Dem party.
Waste of time🤣🤣 could of dropped a reel if they do that
@tortiajackson7071 That's how they normally defeat him and given falcons background in military counseling It would be a different way of going about that
@mlggamer5296 Again, make it a 20-30 minute What If episode theres a reason why it's been re shot 3-4 times now. Doesn't make any sense to be a 2 hour movie
I just stopped arguing with myself about this. I am just gonna go see the movie and see for myself how the fight goes and then decide if it was believable enough.
Showing that Wakanda scene would be awesome though! If they include Queen Shuri in this and show Sam actually receiving the Vibranium Suit from her in-person, then that'd automatically add a lot to the movie. Like he first wears the white and blue suit from the TV Show to go up against sidewinder, but then Shuri upgrades it to the better version from the new trailer, that'd be amazing to watch!
I agree 💯
I think if sam had the serum, he could put up a good fight but won't win. In my opinion, Red Hulk shouldn't just be a one-off villain. It should end with red Hulk escaping and coming back later in a Hulk movie. Red Hulk should be around for awhile. So I think red hulk should win or it ends with red Hulk escaping and coming back later where Sam has help from bruce banner and she-hulk.
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With the serum he'd be able to dodge hits and heal quicker. But with serum still can't hurt hulk. Vibranium weapons maybe judo and pressure points with serum strength maybe hurt him but hulks heal super quick
Same bro
@@Rick-vj8sx i honestly desagree while the serum can help him a bit it wont be as useful
Tony Stark fought Hulk nd Thanos, no super shot just a metal suit. I think another man can do the exact same.
@@fraterjohn96 exactly bro
That suit was literally special
Iron man was also a genius. I haven't heard that about the new Captain America.
Not allowed for blacks bro.
I can't wait. Personally, the Captain America movies have always been my favorite out of the MCU
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I think Sam would be absolutely destroyed without a new suit. I personally hope Sam's final suit is made out of adamantium
Careful, don't spoil what's going to happen.
@@UltimateSpider1385Who cares? There's no law against it.
Or a mix of adamantium and vibranium.
I don’t see it happening personally. M’Baku is now the Wakandan leader and who’s making that suit because Shuri is doing her own thing now
@@joshuaw9675 there's zero evidence Shuri is 'doing her own thing'. She _is_ the Tony Stark of Wakanda. Until there's any proof she didn't, she made the suit. You can't just make up shit.
He couldn't even beat Antman
Sam needs the hulk-buster suit to take on Red Hulk!!!!
There's hints that Sterns is mindcontrolling Red Hulk. So Sam's probably going to try to get through Red's rage to reach Ross inside him. Ross really doesn't have a beef with Wilson outside of getting Cap to become an official government agent, so he doesn't have a reason to fight unless something's influencing him.
Let’s not forget that when Emil got the serum that the Hulk couldn’t even tag him, until he stood still and thought he could take the Hulk head on. So giving that Sam got wings & a shield made out of vibranium I’m not selling him short. Not to mention he is military with those wings. So, yeah no serum but the wings just substitute his reflex and strength if not better. This was answered when he saved the armored car in the show falcon and winter soldier.
It would be awesome to see them bring back the Incredible Hulk from 2008 to go toe-to-toe with Red Hulk and if Red Hulk is as enraged as they are playing him to be this would be a good time to bring him back in.
In the end they join together to defeat an ancient warrior who somehow escaped battle world and is wreaking havoc:
Groo the Wanderer
They give him the heart shaped herb in wakanda
That's been established as on par with the results of the serum, so yeah.
Herbs are destroyed. Also that wouldnt be enough because hulks are waay stronger than supersoldiers
@kompanjonac shuri recreated the heartshaped herb in black panther 2 so its very possible
@kompanjonac yea but that plus the super suit i mean he cant beat hulk but he can atleast fight him lol
I thought you had to be of royal blood to take the herb?
My theory is: The suit can absorb energy, what if it's able to store the energy and build it up to the capacity of Hulk's strength and then Sam is able to throw back a couple of Hulk sized punches? Maybe he can't go supersonic either until after colliding with that missile?
I have fears that Captain America 4 will be a box office bust.
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I can't wait for Captain America vs Red Hulk. I'm also excited for the introduction of Adamantium into the MCU.
To be fair, he has a freaking vibranium suit and the shield. Honestly, this version of him could probably even beat certain suits of ironman since he has those powerful wings
The probability of Sam performing in an enhanced vibranium suit sounds interesting. But that’s a lot of force to endure; pounds of power from Red Hulk. I’m hoping we get Hulk, She Hulk, Ant man and Shang Chi coming into the fight.
Regarding the Super Soldier serum .....
(1) New Captain does NOT NEED THE SERUM...
1a) Because he does NOT need super-strength to make him a good fighter and/or tactical combat. This is dependent on skill and training especially when he also has the strongest materials on earth (VIBRANIUM and possibly Adamantium) in his combat arsenal. This is sufficient to battle against superior strength opponents.
1b) All the feats of strength or durability New Captain America has done came AFTER he got the VIBRANIUM upgrades towards the end of FaTW/ Falcon and the Winter Soldier tv series (2019) meaning it is the vibranium doing the work of strength and durability. New Captain America is simply making application of those tools.
Here is a hint, look at the strength feats Bucky/ Winter Soldier did in FATW and the recent THUNDERBOLTS special look trailer.... He uses his VIBRANIUM ARM to do those feats yet he also has super-serum so ask yourself why he never uses his natural arm. And guess what?.... Bucky's Vibranium arm is performing for stronger feats than his previous arm. There is NO serum inside the vibranium arm and yet see what Bucky is doing with it.... Basically application of tools into action just like New Captain America. Bucky may has the serum, can run faster and physically stronger in his biological body due to the serum BUT THE VIBRANIUM DOES NOT NEED SERUM TO WORK.
1c) It is actually a cool idea that New Captain America does NOT take the serum because.....
i) ..... It teaches that skill and talent when applied well with the right tools can pay off even against greater odds. A good work ethic.
ii)..... It also shows that just because you are not enhanced on steroids or don't have superpowers does NOT mean that you can not be a superhero or do good especially when the superhero name has a COUNTRY in the name.... Captain AMERICA.
iii)..... It also teaches that ANY AMERICAN with the heart for a better America and a better safer world can be worthy of Captain America. That is why the superhero name is "Captain AMERICA" NOT Captain White American or Captain Arab American or Captain Catholic American or Captain Buddhist American, etc.
iv) ... Sam's wings hint at the American Eagle on the American Coat of Arms which is genius and very fitting for anyone labelled "Captain America". Steve Rogers initially hard 'wings' on his helmet to symbolize the American Eagle but ACTUALLY having wings to fly like the eagle is more fitting in my opinion.
v).... If Sam took the super soldier serum, he would become a cheap copy n paste of Steve Rogers like the terrible one in FATW who chosen by the gov't then unchosen. That dude thought just having a flag on his chest + a shield + + serum automatically makes him worthy yet he did NOT have the morality that Steve saw in Sam which he why Steve chose same as his successor. If Sam took the serum it would severely diminish his individuality and uniqueness he brings to the mantle and legacy of captain america. This would be EXACTLY the complaint y'all would be ranting about if Sam took the serum.
All this is NOT knocking on the brilliance of Steve Rogers but rather exalting the morals and beliefs he stands for. He was willing to sacrifice himself to save others BEFORE he got enhanced and he was told that he could die if the experiment failed but that did NOT phase him because he believed he was doing it for the betterment of humanity
(2) Lastly, our smart self professed science nerd himself Spiderman said the VIBRANIUM shield "does NOT obey the laws of physics" in Captain America 3: Civil War. That line was not placed there by mistake. It is an outta-jail-free-card to say you do NOT need super-strength to be able to use the shield. Besides, we have seen several NORMAL PEOPLE WITH NO SUPERPOWERS carrying around the shield easily because the vibranium shield VERY light-weight despite its grandiose durability and it's bouncy freesbie-like properties. I bet a normal human freesbie champion can also use the shield very well
(3) Oh. Just one more. New Captain VS Rulk is directly inspired from the several themes of Man vs Monster in several myths and legends which gave birth to the "underdog" when the hero is stacked against superior odds but still finds some cool way with the aid of a handy POWERFUL tool or clever trick to achieve victory so i am eagerly fascinated looking forward to see how New Captain VS Rulk will be resolved. Either way, i am hyped for that fight and for the movie in general.
(4) MCU is NOT 1=1 with Marvel Comics and have never been. That has been pretty OBVIOUS from day one from the MCU started.
I'm excited to see this!
People wondering how a hero can beat someone that’s supposed to be stronger than them have never read a comic book before
Who is the smart guy who thought that red-hulk vs falcon was a good idea? red hulk is even more powerful than hulk Thor and captain marvel 🫤
@ makes me wanna watch it even more. Ps that’s not really true anymore, but even so I doubt his origin in the movie will be exactly like the comics
@@BrunoDias1234red hulk isn't stronger than thor or captain marvel
@marvelprince Fax. Stan Lee himself said that "who would win" scenarios are dumb because it will always be who the writer wants to have win.
The guy that runs this channel has never read a comic book.
For the uninformed......
(1) Steve Rogers is about 185 years old now. He got very old and elderly and chose Sam to be his successor as the New Captain America in AVENGERS ENDGAME movie 2019.
(2) In the source material/ comics, Sam became Captain America in 2014 (TEN YEARS AGO) and is still Captain America today alongside Steve Rogers in the comics.
(3) Legacy characters....
3a)... Superheroes lore has a tradition of sidekicks and LEGACY characters for OVER 50 YEARS so superheroes can and have transfered and/or given and/or shared and/or picked-up their mantle with other characters. There are an abundance in superhero-dom from Blue Beetle, Flash, Green Lantern, Spiderman, Batman, Superman, Antman, Hulk, Human Torch, Spawn, Robin, The Queston, Solar/ Doctor Solar, The Atom, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Doctor Fate, Zorro, The Spectre, Mister Miracle, Doctor Midnite, etc and so on. They are VERY many.
3b) ... Other than Sam Wilson becoming Captain America, there have been at least FIVE other Captain Americas other than Steve Rogers* like William Naslund, Jeffrey Mace, John Walker (currently U.S Agent in MCU after his failed Captain America stint on Falcon and Winter Soldier tv series), William Burnside and James "Bucky" Barnes/ Winter Soldier.
3c) ....Notice grifters only focus on legacy characters who are NOT White inherently implying only non-whites become legacy characters which is definitively NOT true. They make it sound like Sam Wilson is the first ever legacy character to have the mantle in order to conflate this to "DEI" Rwwaaar🤣. They *NEVER* mention the other characters who also became Captain America. Lol
3d).... Notice the same grifters demand that only the original character superhero should matter yet many of the most popular superheroes are NOT the originals like Flash- Barry Allen is NOT the original Flash (Jay Garrick), Hal Jordan is NOT the original Green Lantern (Alan Scott), Ted Kord is NOT the original Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett), Johnny Storm of FANTASTIC FOUR is NOT the original Human Torch (Jim Hammond), etc and so on.
(4) Red Hulk generates heat the angrier he gets. It is also his weakness if he generates too much it overwhelms him. New Cap has vibranium suit + wings + shield ( possibly rumored adamantium) which is plenty for him to drag out the fight long enough for Red Hulk/ RULK to overheat.
(5) Sam has vibranium SUIT + Vibranium WINGS + Vibranium SHIELD + Adamantium also inside this movie (according to rumors). All these enhancements with such powerful materials are much STRONGER than IRONMAN's Hulkbuster armor made from ordinary materials which had NO vibranium and NO Adamantium yet Tony Stark used that to defeat an ENRAGED Hulk in Avengers 2: Age of Ultron including cracking Hulk's jaw and even tanked some hits from Hulk AND knocked a tooth out of Hulk's mouth.
With those upgrades (vibranium + possible adamantium), Sam has a better chance fighting any Hulk in a dragged out combat against Red Hulk/ RULK as long as he fights smart and tactical just long enough for Sam and/or bis colleagues to to find a way to incapacitate Red Hulk/ Rulk.
They have shown in the trailer how Sam's wings and suit and shield TANKING direct missiles hits without flinching and NO DAMAGE.
Sam is shown using that vibranium enhancements to move FASTER THAN SOUND, making a heavy landing and TANKING sonic boom still NO DAMAGE because of the vibranium.
Trailer also shows the wings can be used offensively to cut/ slice stuff like he did to the burning vehicle.
They are not showing us all that in the trailer by accident. Go watch the THUNDERBOLTS trailers and see what Bucky is doing WITH HIS VIBRANIUM ARM which he can NOT do with his super soldier serum enhanced biological arm.
EDIT:
Additional insight on Steve Rogers age mentioned in (1)...
.... He was about 90years old when he defrosted from the ice at the end of Captain America 1 movie which brought him into the modern era in 2011 then when you add Steve's modern era time in Captain America 2+3 and Avengers 1,2,3 + 4 (9 years, 2011-2019) AND when Steve time travelled back to the mid-1940s to return to his lover PEGGY CARTER then lived through 1940s to 2019 (additional 70s years at least) AND Steve's age (about mid-20s) in Captain America 1 before he got stuck in suspended animation in the ice. All adds up to about 180 years old.
This is because Steve went through about 73 years 1946 to 2019 TWICE = 146 years
+ His years in modern era (2011-2019)= 9 years
+ His initial age before he got stuck in ice in mid-1940s= mid-20s perhaps 25 years old (estimate)
+ 5 year time jump
Estimated TOTAL age (in the end of AVENGERS ENDGAME movie, 2019) = 185years old
He couldn’t beat B Rabbit. How can he beat Red Hulk? Lol
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Oh, you mean captain bucky O'Hare? That's true
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Quick question? If they swapped out Sam's cap with Steve Rogers cap in this new brave New World movie. same script, same action, same movie you just switch out sam with the OG cap. Will y'all still say this movie is trash?
No, but he has no business fighting RH. Just like he wouldn't have been able to square off against Ultron.
@@mikecf1so yall issue isn’t because he’s not a super solider because Steve would’ve lost as well,I think it’s because Sam isn’t a certain complexion is why you guys are hating on the movie before it even comes out
@@Newportnews98 Take racist bullshit elsewhere. I said CA WITH the serum loses, therefore OF COURSE the guy WITHOUT the serum loses. Sorry if that logic is too complicated for you.
And my original issue was NOT about him fighting RH, it was about how when he initially became the new CA he magically had the strength to suddenly throw that shield around at 100 MPH with deadly accuracy even though no regular person on the planet could do that.
Go back to 7th grade English and learn to read before you try to call somebody racist.
@@mikecf1and both black widow and Hawkeye used the shield in age of Ultron and I didn’t see not one complaint.
@@Newportnews98 That's because you don't read. Earlier I said I hate Hawkeye for the exact same reason! And in another reply I said Mackie is great but his character is awful. Take the L and move on.
Green Hulk comes out, read this in a leak
Where did you read the leak?.
@manuelmenchaca4912 I call cap but I pray that's right 🙄
I’m just going to leave this here:
For anyone saying Sam should take the serum, in a recent interview Anthony Mackie went into depth of about Sam’s new capabilities.
He said, he doesn’t have super soldier serum, but his suit enhances all his skills.
I believe they’re giving Sam Wilson the Black Panther treatment without the fruit. Or similar to the Midnight Angels like Okoye.
So Sam with a cross between (vibranium, Adamantimum)shield, boots and armor, more agile, flying at faster speeds, punching harder and kicking harder, sounds pretty good to me, it’s like a Exo- Super suit that enhances your abilities without the serum, that way it doesn’t affect Sam’s character.
Hope it’s good. Rooting for Captain Wilson 🙏🏾🔥
4:00 I agree, don't think we'll get that scene...but damn it'd be a good one. Excited for adamantium 😊😊😊
Is it possible that in addition to the vibranium suit that Captain Falcon also gets a version of the newly synthesized heart-shaped herb?
Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely to happen? No. There is no precedence in the comics for Sam taking any physical enhancers so they probably wouldn't want to change his character in the movies by doing that.
This gets me so excited to see this fight take place in live action
That imagery with Sam not donning a helmet just boggles my mind. Even if he has new formidable suit, Red Hulk could speed-blitz him and turn Sam's noggin to mush. I hope it's just for promotional reasons and not due to "plot." Even with a new fit and presumed helmet, Sam doesn't have the serum, so it wouldn't make sense if he'd be able to go through their fight without taking some punches to the face.
I hope that Sam Wilson's Captain America will kick the Red Hulk's butt because the Red Hulk's weakness is anger because unlike the Green Hulk, whose powers is the madder he gets, the stronger he gets, The Red Hulk's powers is the absorb cosmic and gamma radiation and cause the increase heat out of his skin and cause intense heat. If Ross' Hulk gets too angry and more pissed off during the battle with either super heroes or villains, he can overload himself with lots of heat and eventually, not killing him, but passed out, so the Green Hulk is still the strongest hero there is. I hope we can see Sam Wilson kick the day lights out of the Red Hulk and bring him to justice. I hope the Green Hulk battles the Red Hulk in the big screen after the animated series Hulk and the Agents of SMASH where both the two Hulks fought each other and went in a huge battle.
Anyone remember that TFATWS season finale? The 6-week anticipation build, the WOWZA!!! payoff?
When that shield comes crashing through that window, and Sam flies in a second later in his red, white, and blue glory, new vibranium wings. . .
All you nerds simultaneously shat yourselves, and cheered anyway. Anyone remember that?
This movie is gonna be straight fire, just wait.
Idk why people going crazy about him not having super serum. Captain america couldn’t fight hulk straight up anyway. I just hope the movie does well.
Awesome video
Sam to Red Hulk: "You gotta DO BETTER Mr. President". That will do it.
That explains how he did a super sonic super hero landing without breaking his legs.
It does, yeah.
There was never an explanation for how Tony did it, and his armor was made of plain earth metals. Sam's suit is made with vibranium from space that absorbs energy and vibrations. He has a better excuse than Tony, but no one ever questions how Tony did it. I wonder why.
If he got a suit from wakanda they should show that. I don’t see him outsmarting red hulk to be enough to beat him
Its still going to be epic no matter what people say or think about it. And the fight will be great. And I do hope the team Sam is assembling is still himself, the new Falcon, Hulk, Hawkeye, Antman, Wasp, Shuri/Black Panther, War Machine, Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, Spider-Man, possibly Moon Knight, Daredevil and Tigra, which should be her first live action debut like how they did with both Spider-Man and Black Panther in Captain America: Civil War. And then Thor, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, and others joining later. Can't wait and love the MCU!!!
With a vibrainum suit yes he can plus many other things as well. Remember Black Panther suit was already in nanotechnology when he changed & didn't need to get out his clothes naturally remember?
Makes sense now how he landed in the trailer and that delayed shockwave came out. Stored kinetic energy
Wow, I can't wait for this movie. Breaking the sound barrier!?!?!
Man of Steel & Ironman did this. Black Panthers suit with Caps shield!?!?! This movie is already underrated 😮
Well if a baseball bat can reverse the force of a baseball so can his suite 😂 hey batter batter redhulk swing😂😂
Red Hulk was a general and has a strategic military mind and does not lose that when he's Hulk and just become and rampaging rage monster. Shouldn't be too easy to outsmart him
i hope we see red hulks flame powers
I can’t wait for this movie and the Thunderbolts, seeing my boy Sentry make his debut.
We all wish Sam could take the Super Soldier Serum but what we're forgetting is, Steve Rogers wouldn't even win against a hulk, I mean it's a hulk!!!
I doubt Sam would win, he'd just find a way to either calm red hulk down or use some sort of serum that will turn him back to Ross. I don't care what suit he's wearing, I love him,, but there's no way he's taking down a hulk.
i would go with him caliming red hulk down
Cap's power set is basically going to be America's version of Black Panther. Im guessing minus the heart-shaped herb. It would be cool if he did get it though, honestly.
I just can’t wait to go to theatres and see another hulk out on the big screen 🔥🔥🔥
Vibranium and adamantium? One could only wish
Nothing he can do can beat a Hulk, regardless of how much he thinks
MCU vibranium does not absorb and release. BP’s second vibranium suit does. Shuri said it was something she added.
Tchalla designed his first suit that didn’t redirect energy out of vibranium.
Damn I think you just read the same reply that I put on another website asking how could Sam and compete with the Red Hulk, and how I explain that people forgot that Sam's Captain America suit was made in wakanda and how is suit and wings Shield are all made from vibranium
Wait a minute so as a counselor Couldn't you just find ways to instead of helping him or reasoning with red hulk Couldn't He use like psychology or something that to make him more angry during the fight? I can see him fighting and then saying something like "you never had what it takes to catch banner that's why you failed everytime. Thats why you resorted to becoming a monster yourself" Mark my words if he says that exactly Or something to that Avail that's definitely gonna make him angrier
Ahh hypocrisy, the ultimate tool make anyone angry
Can you do a video about who all from the Serpent Society are going to appear in this movie besides Sidewinder and what type of role are they going to play?
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He needs the super soldier serum and a vibranium suit in my opinion. I mean adamantium
if you think about it sam is slowly becoming a new stark
How?
Wings are literally "Stark level technology" that he works on himself
I defo believe he can be strong and all but him taking that hit in the poster is not believable. But man he’s gonna be hella cool flying with that shield
A decent chance with a vibranium suit woof woof
Well they mentioned adamantium in the trailer so could be made ot adamantium. Looking at the poster where hulkbis holding the shield, he bends it so may get an upgraded suit made if adamatium
When hulk first fought introducing scene Infinti War against Thanos, he had more inteligelence of fighting...
But this duel 1 on 1?
Poolhulk: nockoooooout!!!!!!!!!
You know all this time they haven't mentioned the leader at all during the trailers so i'm wondering does he even play a role Is it gonna be like a background villain?Is he gonna come back in the future? I think that needs to be answered
Sam's new suit must be based on the Midnight Angel power suit Shuri made for Okoye in BP: Wakanda Forever.
That high tech vibranium suit gave Okoye Superhuman abilities.
Im assuming Wakandan made vibranium enhancement suits are gonna largely replace the clunky Iron-Man suIts.
He going to need all the help he can get😂😂😂
He had to get transfusion from Steve.
Wouldve been dope if he was given access to the artificial heart shaped herb and he met Steve Rogers was able to speak to him before coming back, i dont know. Thats just me
One way a real Captain can win ,is to be a real combat service man with super serum.
Just give him the serum already!! 😂😂
I’m kind of looking forward to everything they’re changing with the movie. I’m sure it will be even better
Wakanda Tech made him a pseudo iron man flight suit
I knew it. I knew from day 1, but they had to deny it, and I completely understand. Sam needing super shoulder serum to fight the Red Hulk is not comic accurate and makes no sense to serve as the one and only way to handle the fight. There are plenty of ways to handle a fight like this while making it epic. Using a super suit as an upgrade for his abilities while proving a point that he doesn’t need the serum is more than fair. Sam deserves this upgrade, and I can’t wait to see him use it in future Marvel movies, especially when he goes toe to toe with Doctor Doom.
Now we get a red AARP Hulk. Also when Stark went against Hulk he had artificial intelligence, as well as the Hulk Buster Armor Suit. Yet we are to believe that Mackie can do this with no serum and only a flimsy suit?? Give me a break!!!
The fact that now it has to be explained, tells me that it's probably going to suck. Maybe his wings turn into a couch for Hulk to lay on and be psychoanalized by counselor America! I just don't think Marvel will ever find it's way back.
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Taking down hulk is easy as long as your not trying to go muscle to muscle with him
Seeing captain carter and black widow defeat ultron who had the infinity stones and then captain carter also defeating strange supreme. Both these scenarios tell me that anything is possible in the mcu, i.e. anybody can beat anybody, if the writers feel like it.
Finally we will see a Savage hulk in this movie can't wait
Makes sense since he can’t beat him hand to hand. I feel like he is going to have to make him overheat.
He can use the Super Soldier method of Tyrone Biggums...
Maybe Matt Murdock, Shang Chi, Captain Marvel, Bruce Banner, Thunderbolts, Sentry, Spiderman, Doctor Strange will come to help
I don't know if the suit itself would be the one that It makes him win that battle because doesn't red hulk also absorb energy. Wouldn't they just go back-and-forth? It wouldn't really do much to red hulk unless that plays to his overheating
The suite gives him the edge but his military training will be key as a strategist plus Ross also a military man will falter a he gets angrier and the brute takes center stage I can't wait
This will be awesome, but i don't think he will be able to go up against the red hulk unless he's able to put him to sleep.
Sam is supposed to get the super solider serum in this movie
Sam Wilson is going to have to get something to recover from the fight, but his tech should help a lot...
Didn’t he get the vibranium suit from Wakanda during Captain America and the Winter Soldier? Or is this a different suit?
He should still be on serum being able to fight anyone but having to choose giving his identity as captain America being a African American man
Well...having a full vibranium suit makes sense..if hes to stand a chance against Red Hulk....still dont see inspite of all that, how he can defeat Red Hulk though.
The New Captain America will simply tell the Red Hulk to “Do better”. At which time The hulk will re evaluate his life choices and choose to do good.
7:33 THHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIICK😊
So the suit is similar to Black Panther's suit? Ok. You answered it.
I can see Why New Cap defeat RedHulk It makes sense😍 Since Ross doesn’t really know how to use the power😍 There’s only gonna be Only One Powerful Hulk😍That’s Bruce Banner😍The Character😍
I can’t wait for captain America brave new world
Today vibranium armour in a fictional story, 20 years from now everyone is going to want to latest 'bionic' arm or implant.