RANDOM PLUGIN - What exactly is it?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2023
- A quick intro to what the RANDOM plugin has to offer. More about what's under the hood can be found at vst.beatsurfing.com/blog/musi...
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That is probably one of the best looking GUI in a vst synth i have ever seen, it sounds like a some sort of FM with resonators, great for unusual sounds
It feels like the future of VSTs is actually embedded visualizers. And it's a future I don't really dislike tbh, very inspiring, both audibly and visually
The design is super awesome! Cheers to the designers! It is a pleasure to watch it. And Logo - wow!
Just bought it today, what a fantastic tool. Sounds like an alien forms conversation. ❤
here from andrew huang's video!! 🙌
this is awesome!
Loving the plugin so far. I read your response to @MFGH0ST and it definitely sounds more complicated than I expected.
I agree that it would be great to have some ADSR controls (mainly release and decay) to vary the length of each sound. It's a shame when I stumble across a truly insane sound and realise, in the context of my project and bpm it just doesn't fit in when it very easily could with some minor timing tweaks. They mentioned this can sometimes be fixed by resampling to audio, so I will try that. Maybe even some sort of BPM sync so each sound lasts 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, a bar etc.
Apart from that I love the plugin, keep up the great work. (oh and one last thing. I've noticed the pitch bend function doesn't do anything, am I using it wrong? Happy Christmas!)
Hello Noah,
Pitch bend works, mod-wheel as well ( slightly altering many parameters )
Could you try using the Stress param to weak the length?
Happy holidays :) What daw are you on?
I find it a super interesting and eye-catching concept and the sound.... What can I say, it's awesome. I admit that I'm a "classic" plugins and synths guy and I'm a bit reticent with these new concepts but I'm going to give this one a try. I would like to know first if it is really a synth that I can create my own sounds from scratch or from the patch or is it rather a rompler where everything ends up sounding similar? Thanks!
Thank you for your comment.
In short :
Tone : hard,
Engine : crazy synth, no samples.
Way of producing a new sound: hit the random button many times until it's dope, tweak the 4 params and browse, midi control or automate the XY plane to taste.
And yes, RANDOM is not a rompler... If you liked the sounds...well its for you ;)
The synth engine is so complex that it will be impossible to explain, expose or even name all the parameters. Thats why the XY plane and the random button are there.
Im a synth nerd myself but exploring such a strange beast this way ( Neural Network presets morphing / generation ) feel more inspiring to us.
Deeper :
RANDOM is a unique monophonic instrument, boasting several hundred parameters. It produces sounds that are futuristic and richly saturated. Each component of its synthesis engine is crafted with a few twist, nothing is standard, everything is crazy, from oscillators and envelopes to filters, a modulated resonator network, and various saturation stages. You won't find any elements reminiscent of traditional synths here; don't expect conventional sounds like pianos, flutes or analog saw.
The Neural Network part intelligently manages the interplay between parameters values while the synth engine isn't an AI itself. A fun mix of Neural Network and forward thinking synthesis. it's the result of two years of dedicated development by a team passionate about discovering new sonic territories. Phazz & Beatsurfing wanted to create novel sounds that pave the way for fresh musical styles. Please, invent new musical genres with it!
To appreciate what RANDOM can do, we recommend watching our demonstration videos. It typically generates bold, hard-hitting tones, but if you are brave enough to hit the random button enough, you'll uncover some surprisingly gentle and unprecedented sounds.
Sounds like a lot of useful sounds. I like the textures.
Thanks, checkout this blog post which sowsa bit more about what it is doing. vst.beatsurfing.com/blog/music-tech/random-plugin-the-why-and-the-how/
Just bought the plugin and discovered it offers a very limited range of sound types, okay for 30 bucks, not more. Sad you cant load your own sounds into it, couldve been way more interesting as an fx plugin instead of a synth
Thanks for the feedback. Have you tried really cranking up the Deviance and exploring different tables? Random itself is made up of A Synth + a resonator + 100's of parameters. Check out the recent blog post for more info about what's going on under the hood. It dives deeper into what exactly is RANDOM and how it works.
vst.beatsurfing.com/blog/music-tech/random-plugin-the-why-and-the-how/
Can you make peaceful pads, or non-abrasive sounds?
Everything I’ve heard sounds dirty and distorted.
@@BigSmNdZ Sorry, there is no way :) RANDOM is 100% dirty.
lmaoo bought this plugin last night and realized it was a synth. definitely cool sounds but hopefully there will be packs to download in the future
@@BigSmNdZfor techno and dirty trap
I liking the plug a lot. Any plans to add an ADSR? Stress kind of does that but would be awesome to control some of the release. Can be done in resampling but could level up workflow. You guys are on to something and the plug is truly original. Great job
Hey and a big thanks for your awesome feedback! 👍
We’re stoked that you’re digging our plugin! About the ADSR, we totally get what you’re saying, you're the third to suggest it, it's a sign. Right now, we’re dealing with quite a few envelopes (over 20 some up to 12 segments) just for amplitude, we are using 3 envelopes of 7 to 10 segments and two of 4 segments. It might be a bit too basic and will not sound the same with a classic ADSR, but no worries, we’ve noticed that it’s a recurring request and we’re going to try to find a compromise while keeping a minimal interface.
We’ll rack our brains to find a good middle ground, aiming to keep the richness of the sound while making tweaking easier. Your feedback is precious, and we're super happy to know we’re on the right track!
@@BEATSURFING Wow. Appreciate the super detailed response. Sounds like a tricky problem and I had no idea it was that complex under the hood. It’s awesome to get amazing new plugs from developers that truly care about their users. Keep up the great work. Can’t wait to see what y’all make in the future. Have a great week
@@MFGH0ST We made a new post which goes a bit deeper into what exactly is going on under the hood. vst.beatsurfing.com/blog/music-tech/random-plugin-the-why-and-the-how/
@@BEATSURFING Couldn't you just have a multiplier variable for each ADSR parameter that effects every envelope? A 'scale factor' that stretches or compresses all of their lengths.
@@made.online2149 Thats what the Stress param does for most envelopes. Few other are controlled by the Fluid one.
Sparked my interest... Looking forward to a more in-depth explanation video before I GAS out on this one... But visually stunning and the sounds def breath unique qualities...
Thanks for the praise. We hae a few more video examples up now and should have a web based trial up soon. In the meantime checkout our recent blog post which goes more in depth on what is under the hood.
vst.beatsurfing.com/blog/music-tech/random-plugin-the-why-and-the-how/
@@BEATSURFING very cool... I tend to GAS out alot on both hardware and software so taking a break to get caught up on some other musical acquisitions... If you want to send me a demo version I will gladly do a video review for my various social media accounts... Between RUclips and Instagram alone we have over 30k in subs/followers... We focus mostly on audio and visual experimentation where I feel this fits in well...
I love this plugin, It makes super interesting sounds! I only wish it had some control over the release of the sound. It would really simplify things for me if some release control were implemented!
unless it's already in there and I'm just a moron 😅
Please provide a trial/demo version. Thanks!
amazing, make something for randomizing samples cuts. like i put sample file to vst and it cuts its randomly and something cool and creative can happen
Hey, this plugin is really cool and I really like the concept. I think it lacks resources to explain what each parameter does and how matter influence on their own way the sound, like a manual or something.
(edited for link) We are working on a detailed blog post which is now out. vst.beatsurfing.com/blog/music-tech/random-plugin-the-why-and-the-how/
Is there a plugin like this where you can load your own sounds into it? Anyone?
Im really on the fence with this one. Some of the sounds seem very usable but as others have mentioned without an ADSR it seems limiting to get the right sound. Some more demos would be nice to see. Send me a copy and ill make a demo video 😂
As I can see it comes with a lot of presets like 808's, 909's, and some others, my question is if I can delete all those preconfigured sounds and add my own sounds designed with max for live and also some from my hardware synths to use RANDOM just as a processor with all its controls?
It sounds great, if gives a resonant FM vibe and sharp dirtyness to the sound.
you can change the presets and save it as one of your own. there are 2 folders, one for presets and other for your own. i dont think you can delete the preconfirured ones
fuckin love this thing, already my top Synth
So just before Im deciding..
There is no way to load my own samples?
Is it all about the samples that plugin is offering and the manipulation of those specific samples?
Hello,
There is no sample involved, it's a crazy synth engine, not a rompler.
is it only monophonic?
This is literally my new favorite plugin the possibilities are infinite(if u take the time to learn it) the only real thing i want is a way to delete user presets in the plugin itself. Also a way to tackle some of the highs that alot of these sounds have, they can be a bit peircing. Other than that this is an amazing plugin.
eq or plugins like soothe and dseq can be good to remove resonant frequencies but be careful with plugins like soothe as they can sometimes remove too much from the sound
Hey guys it impossible to play back automation at the moment on ableton as it keeps on turning it off (i.e. the Re-enable Automation button keeps coming on) Thought it might be good to get the fix here so that other people can see it if it happens to them.
Hello Jamie
We reproduced the bug here, will be fixed this morning and available in the next build.
:). edit : fixed and available in te update.
Looks dope but also looks like it eats a butt-ton of CPU, how much memory required for a download?
Hello, RANDOM is only a few megs, and it use a reasonable amount of CPU. The visual is computed on the GPU ( openGL ) so it do not cost any on the CPU.
reminds me of Synplant
Does this plug-in work with FL Studio and is it 32 or 64 bit
64. it work in fl using the "fixed buffer size" setting available from an plugin window.
knowledge.beatsurfing.com/random-sounds-noisy-in-fl-studio
I just bought the VST but FL studio won't let me open it, I'm going crazy it keeps telling me to "check if it's installed correctly" and I checked 100 times
knowledge.beatsurfing.com/random-sounds-noisy-in-fl-studio
How to install it into Fruity Loops? I have purchased, trying to "Manage plugins" and no "Random" found :(
did you get an answer by the support? Its works great in FL ( need fixed buffer size in plug settings )
I'm loving how it sounds! Definitely wanna get it but I am afraid of the GPU use, Would it be runnable if I have a GTX 1060? 🥺
can you record the visual output?
record ur screen as ur playing stuff maybe? But that is defintely a way to make a cool looking youtube type vid. id love to have a song play out and use the visual thing from this vst to make it alive. cool idea
Does it work with FL studio 11 and up
Yes. Better using the fixed size buffer in te fl plugin settings.
why is the install button greyed out? cant install and cant get a response from your website.
Hello, please drop us a line at support@beatsurfing.com
ive tried using ur website and it either takes half an hour to load because of the forced video on the main page or says someone will be back at 7pm but never comes. @@BEATSURFING
Please make it possible to add your own sounds! It looks to be some kind of distortion after all
Hello
It's not a distortion or a fx unit, it's not a rompler.
its a synth using few hundred parameters. New kind of oscillators, new kind of Phase Modulation, original filters and many 12 segments envelopes and a resonator network.
Nice, but obviously for a large amount based on 'distortion; in a bunch of different characteristics. Which then makes the whole thing very limited again, because...yah.. almost everything is 'just' distorted.....
Hello JETLAG,
Thank you for your feedback. :)
The primary direction of the RANDOM plugin is to deliver strong saturated tones. However, if you’re on the hunt for smoother tones, please consider the following suggestions:
1. Randomize: It might sound weird, but pressing the random button many times can lead you to the sound you’re looking for. Given the hundreds of parameters in the synth engine, randomizing until you hit the right spot is a key part of the workflow. And don’t worry if you overshoot a great result; the arrows next to the random button allow you to navigate to past outcomes.
2. Adjust the Spike parameter: Dialling this down can provide you with less aggressive tones.
3.Use the modwheel: A lower modwheel setting can be the key to smoother sounds.
4. Play with velocity: Tweaking the velocity can greatly influence the tonal quality, allowing you a broader range of sound control.
The amount and destination of the modweel and velocity are different for each new random sound. Sometimes it’s a lot, sometimes is minimal, for many parameters.
I hope these suggestions assist you in harnessing the full potential of RANDOM.
Thank you,
Pascal.
Sounds like FM sound that anyone can create him/herself. But nice for lazy ones haha :D
Gonna try it tho cause it's seem more interesting that what I see from this demo.
Thanks for noticing the FM sound!
While it's true that phase modulation is a familiar concept, RANDOM brings a unique twist by altering the ratio of different oscillators in ways not seen before. As you explore the changes through our neural network, you'll notice that the alteration of the phase modulation ratio differs significantly from conventional methods. Phase modulation is just one aspect of our synth. Envelopes, filters, resonators, noise generators, each part of RANDOM's engine employs innovative approaches, making the overall sound 100% distinct.
where's the link...?
in description.
So what IS this?
Checkout our recent blog post which goes more in depth on what is under the hood. vst.beatsurfing.com/blog/music-tech/random-plugin-the-why-and-the-how/
wtf i was looking for FANNER 3000 and i found a treasure chest 💀🔥
ADSR please
if we turn it into a simple adsr sound will become way more standard, the multisegments envelopes interact in very complex way. The stress parameter is a kind of macro that affect many timing values.
We still seek for a solution allowing for more envelopes tweaking, but it will not be a standard adsr.
This sounds so RANDOM hehe saw what I did there?
hmmm
Btw i recorded my beat map on my channel
Sounds very much like a re-skin of Synplant tbh.
why?
@@BEATSURFING because you can hear the FM parameters it's adjusting under the hood. Just like synplant's branch mode.
All the same effects.
@@BuzzaB77 the FM in random is nothing like the FM in Synplant. Listen to the way it sounds when the ratio are changing, you don't hear any traditional fm ratio change between integer value. Same for other part of the synth. None part of RANDOM use normal and regular way of doing things, we got crazy on any parts of the engine
@@BEATSURFING good to know, thanks for clarifying some details.
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