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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2023
  • This is an interview with activist and social commentator Kamau Franklin who works with Community Movement Builders, Stop Cop City, and the Atlanta Solidarity Fund. We're talking about a major issue facing Atlanta and likely much of the nation going forward, the encroaching militarization and growth of the police state.
    Please if you can connect with one of the following entities listed here to find out a way you can help and support stopping Cop City!
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    @KamauFranklin
    @CommunityMvt
    @Defend the Atlanta Forest
    @Atlanta Solidarity Fund
    Website
    Stop Cop City stopcop.city/
    Atlanta Solidarity Fund atlsolidarity.org/
    Community Movement Builders communitymovementbuilders.org/

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  • @FDSignifire
    @FDSignifire  Год назад +218

    Are yall seeing mid roll ads on this?

  • @AzureTheAvian
    @AzureTheAvian Год назад +1108

    There’s only a handful of reasons why a country would turn their police into a military force. And all of them are terrifying.

    • @SGR403
      @SGR403 Год назад +1

      What are they?

    • @Firegodot
      @Firegodot Год назад

      @@SGR403 1. You live in an actually dangerous country like Honduras and Mexico where organized crime isn't really afraid of the law because the government is corrupt on many levels so the escalation of violence leads to police turning into more of a military force
      2. You have an Authoritarian Regime in power that wants to use fear to stop any signs of uprisings, protests and different opinions in general so they use cops as a military force to keep people in check.
      Note that those two are not mutually exclusive and actually one often leads to the other, in fact most goverment lie about having one to justify doing the other you can actually see it with the whole war on drugs bullshit that reagan pulled out of his ass in order to justify lobbying for bigger budgets for the police that lead to its further militarization on the US...

    • @razablanco3766
      @razablanco3766 Год назад

      Yeah, when a certain culture is killing themselfs off at record time.

    • @theawesomesandbox
      @theawesomesandbox Год назад +25

      Really? Watching from the EU, where the police is chill-er that has already happened in the US and some attempts have been made to replicate that here. So it's not really a shock to call the US police militarized in terms of training, facilities and equipment.

    • @hamdemon8511
      @hamdemon8511 Год назад

      It depends on what the criminals are like. The leftists are certainly armed and violent. Hell, they've been attacking government facilities and extraterritorislizing the nations land. Sounds like a military problem to me.

  • @meredithmclaughin9911
    @meredithmclaughin9911 Год назад +1207

    Hearing " the police couldnt even handle the conversation without turning it into "youre either with us or against us"" is honestly eye opening. Its so true

    • @hopefulmonsters4407
      @hopefulmonsters4407 Год назад +28

      Seriously!

    • @Columbiana777
      @Columbiana777 Год назад +59

      I am not surprised their fragility and refusal to acknowledge their privileges create harm to others. If you turn a blind eye to the behavior they might throw you a bone.

    • @bleakautomaton4808
      @bleakautomaton4808 Год назад

      The same cops who would crowd people under bridges to then tear gas them relentlessly, it is even more unsettling to hear someone pushing for being 'even tougher on crime' - like more death/mysterious 'suicides' in jail with no camera footage!? Gd chilling.

    • @BePatientSeeLove
      @BePatientSeeLove Год назад +5

      Sad too

    • @sadboijokes
      @sadboijokes Год назад +51

      It’s eye opening because it’s like they’re clearly not considering themselves as part of the communities they’re supposedly sworn to protect. If they were, they would be trying to have a dialogue WITH the community rather than drawing that line in the sand. And that’s one of the biggest issues with cops. They don’t consider themselves as citizens but as something slightly above that which gives them authority over others who are considered “lower.”

  • @AliveBoldTV
    @AliveBoldTV Год назад +154

    The parallels with the Palestinian situation is honestly scary.
    And internalized racism is really dangerous. The myth of Black excellence got folx out here scrambling to roll over the next man for an illusion.

    • @ButWhyMe...
      @ButWhyMe... 11 месяцев назад

      Some people call it a genocide, but I can't really understand - Would you mind explaining?

    • @squigeyjoe823
      @squigeyjoe823 10 месяцев назад

      @@ButWhyMe... what do you want to know?

    • @ButWhyMe...
      @ButWhyMe... 10 месяцев назад

      @@squigeyjoe823 What exactly are Palestinians going through.

    • @xDCAxNexus
      @xDCAxNexus 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@ButWhyMe... Late, but they are going through the following: the Israeli government bulldozing their homes to replace them with housing for Israelis, expelling them from Palestine into neighboring countries that can barely support them, harsh policing of Palestinian people with excessive jail time and beatings for the faintest resistance, disproportionate group punishment responses against Palestinian civilians whenever Hamas launches their paltry munitions into Israeli controlled territory, refusing productive negotiations with Palestinians, etc.
      They are quite literally cleansing the ethnicity of the Palestinian Arab from the land that they stole and continue to steal.

  • @pranavgoel9978
    @pranavgoel9978 Год назад +1015

    It is such a cross-cutting justice issue. Cops, climate change and deforestation, direct democracy, racism, authoritarianism, facism.

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 Год назад +22

      🏴

    • @bleakautomaton4808
      @bleakautomaton4808 Год назад +37

      @@zero1188 Isolating/gating off an area for 'crowd controlling' training grounds, aka less community ties to the police there to 'serve and protect' said communities is bad. I don't think you watched the video, especially the part where the public wasn't able to actually engage with the discussion until people in communities spoke up about elected officials acting out of the favor of the people.

    • @bloodthunder301
      @bloodthunder301 Год назад

      @Bleak Automaton wasn't there a big ass riots in 2020 in Atlanta? An there is going to be less police? How about retraining and having close ties to police look at Portland orgeon where antifa made there own city block where it failed miserably and tried to make there own police and failed... People don't know shit and are corrupt..

    • @bleakautomaton4808
      @bleakautomaton4808 Год назад

      @@bloodthunder301 Way to show what's under your mask with bad faith feigning ignorance and bringing up your boogeyman antifa. You are clearly so for truth as to never think or question the militarization of police, go to your forum buddies and let 'em know how you 'owned' some loser today lol.

    • @bloodthunder301
      @bloodthunder301 Год назад

      @Bleak Automaton Bad faith when I'm brining common sense into the equation.. Antifa is a real thing and you are assuming I'm part of a group which thinks a certain way is a strongman argument. An I'm against the militarization of police.. So stop putting words in my mouth

  • @tylachad6102
    @tylachad6102 Год назад +602

    I’ve been saying this. People think it’s a “shortage” of police and that’s why they’re mass hiring. No, they’re trying to fill the streets with cops. I see police SOOOOOO much more than I’ve ever saw them here in Atlanta. Cop city is just boot camp for more militant cops.
    The only thing that gives me a little hope is that a lot of Atlanta cops are black and from these neighborhoods. (At least in my opinion) APD is one of the more relaxed departments around Atlanta.

    • @LostBoysBasketball
      @LostBoysBasketball Год назад +31

      I stay in Atlanta too and all of this is factual 💯

    • @TT-xz5sy
      @TT-xz5sy Год назад +9

      Probably cause the crime is getting worse.

    • @liveoak227
      @liveoak227 Год назад +97

      @@TT-xz5sy those of us who remember the crime in the 80s and 90s aren't impressed

    • @nondescriptname
      @nondescriptname Год назад +1

      @@TT-xz5sy Gee, I wonder why crime might be getting worse. I wonder if it could have anything at all to do with economic instability, rising inequality, shrinking opportunities, and continued systemic racist violence. I guess we'll never know.
      Ugh. Fuckiin' people, man.

    • @lastfirst9101
      @lastfirst9101 Год назад +7

      @@liveoak227 yall be saying that like it's honorable😂that was 40 and 30 years ago WITH CRACK. In MODERN TIMES crime, especially violent ones, are increasing.

  • @cattibingo
    @cattibingo Год назад +310

    Didn't a while ago a former cop in Atlanta revealed that they were told to constantly write tickets/do arrests at a specific apartment complex because the landlord wanted to tear it down and build new expensive "luxury" apartments? So to do that they tried to get everyone evicted and cops helped by arresting/citing so it would be literally impossible for the people to pay rent

    • @System_Anomaly
      @System_Anomaly Год назад +5

      Can't find this, does anyone have the source?

    • @yingyang7448
      @yingyang7448 Год назад +16

      @@System_Anomaly
      Hopefully someone finds the source soon, otherwise the 36 people that liked Cattitbingo's comment are just going with the flow and not fact checking.

    • @preciousbeing2442
      @preciousbeing2442 Год назад +59

      @@System_Anomaly This is true. The officer's name is Tom Gissler. You can easily find it with a Google search.

    • @aesanonymous8936
      @aesanonymous8936 Год назад +70

      @@yingyang7448 *The Cop Who Quit Instead of Helping to Gentrify Atlanta*
      It talks about the story of Tom Gissler and the apartment complex.

    • @deedeedan8681
      @deedeedan8681 Год назад +35

      @@preciousbeing2442 Yeah, I just looked it up too and all i can think is....wtf.
      Also if someone wants to search for it themselves I put in "Tom Gissler cop quits force". Its not hard to fin

  • @unwillingly_will
    @unwillingly_will Год назад +357

    Damn, as a British gal that doesn't keep up as much as I should with stuff over the Atlantic, especially in the south, when I glossed over the term 'cop city' I assumed that was just a descriptor for drastic overpolicing throughout Atlanta; now I learn it's a literal sci fi nightmare situation, a city within a city to fester a pure culture of 'us and them,' with expert training in militaristic violence too. Hope you guys are successful at getting the bastards out. Good luck and much love

    • @choronos
      @choronos Год назад +31

      If we're not successful resisting the fascists here in the US, may god have mercy on the rest of the world.

    • @wade13murphy
      @wade13murphy Год назад

      Well he was picking using the right vocabulary. He said they have a helipad for a black hawk helicopter. He could have just said the facility will include a helipad, no need to make it sound scary.

    • @unwillingly_will
      @unwillingly_will Год назад +15

      @¿Wonder Man? he's a lefty essayist, it's his job to make otherwise boring ideas and concepts interesting to people that aren't as politically active. Also my dude I'm not sure on what planet this situation isn't scary, regardless of how detailed the description of the helipad is. Peace and love but pls try and gain a wider perspective

    • @shuheihisagi6689
      @shuheihisagi6689 Год назад +13

      @@wade13murphy Instead of building more armed forces, we should help the communities with high poverty and crime by providing resources and opportunities for poor families. Encourage local business ownership instead of committing arm robberies.
      This is a socio-economic problem and it is being solved by a militarized police force. This is only going to end in more crime and death, that is what cops are needed for. They get paid more if we have more crime.

    • @nebuler1
      @nebuler1 Год назад +14

      @@wade13murphy it's very notable that they want to have a black hawk. That is in no way meant for traffic or man hunt operations. It IS terrifying.

  • @djodude1
    @djodude1 Год назад +244

    As an Israeli who has watched the Palestinian struggle ignored, erased, and distorted by most media my whole life, thank you for bringing attention to this very real connection. End to apartheid and colonization everywhere!

    • @ButWhyMe...
      @ButWhyMe... 11 месяцев назад +2

      I've heard some people even refer to it as a genocide. Would you mind explaining it a bit?

    • @chronometer9931
      @chronometer9931 10 месяцев назад +1

      End apartheid in Canada!

    • @acbower4468
      @acbower4468 8 месяцев назад

      Why the struggles of the Palestinians are real, can we address a hypothetical…
      In your heart of hearts, what do you think would happen to Jews in Israel if the IDF left their posts, the walls came down and Gaza and the West Bank were open?
      They would be slaughtered.

    • @davechongle
      @davechongle 4 месяца назад +7

      ⁠@@acbower4468you could say that of pretty much any country today. if your oppressors dropped their guard, would you not take that opportunity to stop the oppression? especially against a ruler and organization as terribly cruel as the IDF. that doesnt change the fact that the government of israel almost literally made Hamas themselves, much like how the US influence created terrorist orgs in the middle east.

  • @ghifarraad8392
    @ghifarraad8392 Год назад +491

    Charging activists and protestors with "domestic terrorism" is how the Syrian regime managed to police our uprising and eventually justified bombing entire cities.
    I hope no one experiences that and power to the people of Atlanta and every place where people are demanding their basic human rights.

    • @JeanLucDickhard
      @JeanLucDickhard Год назад +12

      Praying the Atlanta PD doesn't start bombing parts of Atlanta. 🙏

    • @AzureTheAvian
      @AzureTheAvian Год назад +17

      God, I’m so sorry for all the Syrian activists… I’m scared that the US isn’t far behind on that front, too. The more time goes on, the more terrified I am of living here. I just wish I could do more to support the protests.

    • @Robstafarian
      @Robstafarian Год назад +27

      It has been about fifty years since Philadelphia PD burned down multiple blocks by bombing MOVE; it seems pretty clear that the lessons have been forgotten.

    • @zrl1017
      @zrl1017 Год назад

      Just fyi, that type of stuff will never happen in America because we have the right to bear arms. Unless the government wants a civil war, which they’d probably lose, they will never take things to the extreme of bombing civilians.

    • @zrl1017
      @zrl1017 Год назад +3

      @@AzureTheAvianyou do realize we have the right to bear arms correct? We are extremely far from experiencing anything like Syria 😂

  • @OptimisticAudience
    @OptimisticAudience Год назад +36

    When he said "Black Mayors have served their purpose" re: gentrificaiton, I think he crystalized so much of Atlanta's political history to me.

    • @EsotericThoughts93
      @EsotericThoughts93 8 месяцев назад +1

      Basically any black city mayor in the south. That’s the only way they’re “allowed into” office. It’s messed up

  • @pisceanbeauty2503
    @pisceanbeauty2503 Год назад +632

    I love that this dropped as Renegade Cut released a video on police underreporting of hate crimes. I am fearful we are repeating the mistakes of the past with this hyper mobilization of police in response to perceived, exaggerated, and sometimes real increases in crime nationwide. I’m seeing people who should know better parrot the “tough on crime” rhetoric of the 80’s and 90’s. I have been feeling so uneasy for sometime about the growing authoritarianism, and public acceptance of it.

    • @warwatcher91
      @warwatcher91 Год назад +49

      It's amazing how much damage 3 little words have wrought in the last several decades.

    • @socialrose3070
      @socialrose3070 Год назад +24

      I think it's worth pointing out like in this video at the beginning talking about how ~60% of the pop doesn't support cop city, the same is true of not supporting tough on crime law making for the majority of people nationwide. The reason things like this are being passed is because the lawmakers themselves overwhelmingly support such initiatives for various reasons, whether that be corruption, they've been cops, or just outright support the police. Politicians are very bourgeois, in my city, for example, every person sitting on the city council owns their own business, and the same is true for most people sitting on city councils in the United States. That uneasy feeling is certainly valid, because most of the people in power are now starting to just openly invite fascism or are laying the ground work for fascists if they do take over.

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 Год назад +16

      that combined with the near constant "democracy doesn't work" rhetoric is super unnerving. Many supposedly liberal countries appear to be sleepwalking into Fascism. Again.

    • @socialrose3070
      @socialrose3070 Год назад +3

      @@paultapping9510 I agree, but it also depends on where people take that line of thinking. The sentiment I think is true, capitalism and democracy are pretty incompatible, but you can take that in a therefore we need a more authoritarian capitalist economy, or therefore we need to get rid of capitalism and find some new form of organizing the economy based on democratic values like socialism, anarchism, ect.

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 Год назад +1

      @Social Rose to paraphrase slightly, Capitalism's greatest trick was convincing the world that it and Democracy are synonymous.
      Capitalism is a disgusting abusive system of control that is, for a variety of reasons, deeply corrosive to the Greater Good and absolutely needs to be rethought, and soon. Democracy on the other hand, I'm less inclined to dismiss as a lost cause (though obviously in need of some serious revisions).

  • @TheMusicalFruit
    @TheMusicalFruit Год назад +211

    Atlanta City Council: We heard your cries of "Defund of the Police" loud and clear and will be building a 90 million dollar police playground as a result.

    • @stinkmonger
      @stinkmonger Год назад +6

      perfect example of why liberal activism is woefully insufficient

    • @conscientiousobserver7444
      @conscientiousobserver7444 Год назад +7

      Crime is real in Atlanta though lol

    • @JP-hj1il
      @JP-hj1il Год назад +17

      @@conscientiousobserver7444 crime is real and your cops doesn't solve them nor they deter it. There are enough studies on this.

    • @XHitsugaX
      @XHitsugaX Год назад +12

      ​@@conscientiousobserver7444 cops never deter crime. Especially not in the US.
      Crime reduction is based on wealth disparity reduction, rising education standards and improved social services.

    • @Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer
      @Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer Год назад +8

      Half the time the cops are *committing it!* Just look at Detroit, Chicago, LA, Baltimore, etc...

  • @jojoone1099
    @jojoone1099 Год назад +339

    This sounds like a pilot program that will spread across the country.

    • @lindsaytoles2023
      @lindsaytoles2023 Год назад +74

      All the more reason to oppose it now. Chilling...

    • @maxxidle
      @maxxidle Год назад +1

      💯 You can bet it is already happening. The elites know the younger generations are way more "radical" than their predecessors. Millenials are not getting more conservative as they age and that terrifies them.

    • @OverthrowMedia
      @OverthrowMedia Год назад +75

      They actually tried it in seattle first, but there were a bunch of us who came together and stopped it. The campaign against it was called blockthebunker.

    • @lindsaytoles2023
      @lindsaytoles2023 Год назад +3

      @@maxxidle who, me? I'm just a little old millennial, don't mind me... I just voted a few times, it's harmless...

    • @jusletursoulglobaby
      @jusletursoulglobaby Год назад +1

      it most CERTAINLY will. Biden told folks no defund police and championed more funding for police

  • @lindsaytoles2023
    @lindsaytoles2023 Год назад +267

    I can only imagine the feelings of powerlessness and rage of that neighborhood, having a tower for lethal narcissists built in their backyard.

    • @eminatorstudios
      @eminatorstudios Год назад +20

      One of the few cases where "not in my backyard" is a valid and good stance

    • @LC-sc3en
      @LC-sc3en Год назад +9

      @@eminatorstudios honestly with climate change anyone who's going to lose forest or natural habitat space for a development has a good reason. This one is a double whammy with what they want to build there.
      It's the people in wealthy neighborhoods that refuse to allow density, low income, or infrastructure projects that have no leg to stand on

    • @kf8113
      @kf8113 Год назад +2

      What makes them narcissists? These people think they're doing the right thing, which gives them the perfect excuse to do anything they want.

    • @sora4440
      @sora4440 Год назад +1

      I live over in that area and most ppl are ok with it. Especially with how bad crime has gotten...

    • @mewmew6158
      @mewmew6158 Год назад +4

      @@sora4440 that's even sadder, capitalism has really rotted people's ability to imagine better for themselves and others.

  • @Dimitri791
    @Dimitri791 Год назад +152

    NINETY MILLION 😬 thats enough to house 180 ppl OWNING THEIR HOME, or could pay SEVEN THOUSAND peoples rent for a year. This is so frustrating. I hope this can still get shut down
    (EDIT: math)

    • @warwatcher91
      @warwatcher91 Год назад

      It's depressing that right wingers will support this or pumping millions into a corrupt government in Afghanistan, yet in the same breath will condemn any kind of welfare.

    • @davispo7550
      @davispo7550 Год назад +12

      75,000 people's rent for a month (or 6,250 for a year) is closer, but the point still stands

    • @Dimitri791
      @Dimitri791 Год назад +5

      @@davispo7550 oops u right

    • @Robstafarian
      @Robstafarian Год назад +14

      There is always money to hurt unwanted people.

    • @majornija
      @majornija Год назад

      Why would they do that when their goal is to kill all people who are not able to think critically or take care of themselves?

  • @christopherpoff4117
    @christopherpoff4117 Год назад +141

    I was, well... trapped in Atlanta over the holiday in as much I intended to be with family in a different state. Even just around the airport, the neighborhood around it, the police presence was conspicuous. I probably saw more Georgian cops than Texan cops last year just being in Atlanta across three days.

  • @byrrnitdown
    @byrrnitdown Год назад +88

    “Cop City” is chilling enough even without the context - thank you for putting this out there!

  • @ALIGlobal
    @ALIGlobal Год назад +44

    It’s scary, I used to get a text from a friend, whose parents were cops, called quota day. Tried to move back to my hood, were price out by business cash buying the homes.
    Now Bankhead, is the West Buckhead. Crazy!!!

  • @starlostlovers
    @starlostlovers Год назад +69

    Thank you for talking about this, from the bottom of my heart. It’s shocking how little coverage this has had, and the people on the ground have been so diligent in their resistance.

  • @elonevora
    @elonevora Год назад +119

    So happy you had Kamau on the channel. Always energized after hearing him speak. Stop Cop City.

  • @warwatcher91
    @warwatcher91 Год назад +95

    Seeing this going on in Atlanta makes me wonder if there's plans for more Cop Cities going on in other cities around the country.

    • @cryptbeast3222
      @cryptbeast3222 Год назад +18

      There has been and there are.

    • @candyh4284
      @candyh4284 Год назад +29

      absolutely. this isn't the first attempt at this kind of complex either - was in the PNW first, but it failed due to the civilian protest and backlash.

    • @hopsonkim4952
      @hopsonkim4952 Год назад +1

      @@candyh4284 “shocking” that’s it’s happening in the most leftist areas in the PNW and the most successful Black cities like Atlanta.

    • @candyh4284
      @candyh4284 Год назад

      @@hopsonkim4952 whaaat, police targeting of socialists and racial minorities? that sounds WHOLLY unlike them!

    • @mewmew6158
      @mewmew6158 Год назад +2

      The fact that the gov. keeps trying this is genuinely scary, we need less cops and they know it.

  • @snotperson
    @snotperson Год назад +32

    High school senior from California. Did a presentation in my civics class on this. I feel like everyone should know cuz cop city could set a really dangerous precedent.

    • @TheVerucAssault
      @TheVerucAssault Год назад +1

      Atlanta lost police during the pandemic. There are assaults, robberies, and homicides there regularly in predominantly black areas and neighborhoods. I hope you explained to your class why having less police is a good thing in that regard.

    • @snotperson
      @snotperson Год назад +2

      @Jason Flake never denied that lol

  • @kingjacko302
    @kingjacko302 Год назад +64

    If you make peacefully protesting have the same consequences as getting violent, you’re going to have more violence. Hoping that more channels can pick what is going on up to stop the insanity of labeling these protesters as terrorists.

    • @cryptbeast3222
      @cryptbeast3222 Год назад +20

      It might finally break the mindset that only peaceful protests are valid forms of resistance.

    • @mewmew6158
      @mewmew6158 Год назад +9

      Charging and/or labeling peaceful protesters as domestic terrorists is truly a dangerous and scary precedent. Honestly, I hope there are more widespread sharing of this information because we need more organized attempts at stopping this continuation of normalizing fascism.

    • @sora4440
      @sora4440 Год назад

      Peaceful lol. I guess setting bombs and guns to blow up and shoot people is considered peaceful...

  • @pakiroh
    @pakiroh Год назад +134

    Thank you for using your platform to organize!

  • @tsawasanchez9571
    @tsawasanchez9571 Год назад +8

    Justice for Manuel “Tortuguita” Terán who was murdered by police violence for protesting against cop city

  • @OverthrowMedia
    @OverthrowMedia Год назад +29

    The state apparatus is adding more police specifically because they know this nation is destabilizing. They need the police to continue to become more and more a standing military.
    Also, the black bourgeoisie and petite bourgeoisie have always been a crucial part of the expansion of the police state and gentrification. Even in these conversations, their privilege and perspective is prioritized over the black proletariats, and especially lumpen proletariats survival. While the lumpen proletariat tend to be the ones doing the work fighting against our oppression that the Petite bourgeoisie co-opt for their clout and/or content.

  • @fjr4205
    @fjr4205 Год назад +61

    Thank you for hosting Mr. Franklin and sharing this info! The environmental implications are almost as scary as the authoritarian ones!

  • @CatStar4
    @CatStar4 Год назад +19

    I am a late 2000's vet, and this "Cop City" Screams military base. This all sounds like things we had at basic training and that is honestly terrifying.

    • @realMacMadame
      @realMacMadame Год назад +9

      The militarization of the police absolutely terrifies me. I don't understand why it doesn't terrify more people.
      Growing up poor, I saw what the police did to marginalized groups and will never trust them even now that I am middle class and living in "2020's Happiest City" (eye roll). These are the last people we want to have tanks and rocket launchers.

    • @CatStar4
      @CatStar4 Год назад +11

      @@realMacMadame And like, unlike the military who at least attempts to teach some kind of de-escalation, I knew a cop for a while and they showed that the police are trained to be jumpy fucks, where at least in 2008 that was frowned upon because you could start an international incident, so I especially hate the idea of people already trained to be jumpy having military grade weapons. I wouldn't want them to have a regular grenade, much less a rocket or grenade launcher.

  • @princessjellyfish98
    @princessjellyfish98 Год назад +34

    thank you for talking about this!!!! it was so frustrating going into the last mayoral election seeing all the fear-mongering about crime rates with the threat of this new facility constantly looming. Kamau's point at 11:50 is SO important. if something like this was happening in a wealthy white municipality, it would absolutely be a separate issue on the local ballot, not something left to investors to parse out in board rooms. anyone reading this who's not from Atlanta, PLEASE share this information, check out the orgs in the description, etc. SO much is at stake: increased police violence and surveillance, the destruction of the environment, the impact of this will be widespread. it can be so overwhelming sometimes being online and hearing about injustice and not having anywhere specific to focus your energy. this is the time to come together and act!!!

  • @squigeyjoe823
    @squigeyjoe823 10 месяцев назад +4

    There has been Palestinian-African American solidarity since the 1960s because the same imperial forces that are used against the Palestinians internationally, are used against African Americans domestically within the US. A recent example of this solidarity and overlap, was during the Ferguson protests where Palestinians were tweeting to protestors how best to deal with the tear gas that was being used against them, because it was tear gas that had been tested on the Palestinians.
    This is one of the reasons the Panthers focus on internationalism was so astute, as the forces of imperialism and colonialism are globalised and a threat to all marginalised people, they are quite literally training together in how best to oppress us!

  • @Velo_Jello
    @Velo_Jello Год назад +16

    Sounds like a military outpost - except with less accountability for the "soldiers".

    • @anamoose461
      @anamoose461 Год назад

      Ever heard of a little thing called Riotsville? The military literally built fake cities on military bases for basically the exact same reasons and purpose as cop city

  • @worldeditor6985
    @worldeditor6985 Год назад +56

    Some algorithm advice for ensuring a video gets traction, do a livestream first and then end the livestream as the video gets uploaded (while encouraging people to go watch the video, like and comment). This makes the video gets a bunch of views initially making youtube spread it around more.

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 Год назад +18

      Liking videos isn't enough anymore. Gotta leave a comment too.

    • @worldeditor6985
      @worldeditor6985 Год назад +11

      @@StopCopCity1312 fax, allot of people giving a little time helps a video allot.

  • @19cosmo91
    @19cosmo91 Год назад +41

    This is my 1st time hearing of this and I also live in Atlanta. Thanks to both of you for bringing this to my attention. I'm definitely going to be raising awareness about this issue locally.

    • @Ourdirtytwo
      @Ourdirtytwo 4 дня назад

      In support? Because the only way to have well trained officers in a growing city is by having this

  • @biggsly
    @biggsly Год назад +65

    If crime is supposedly so bad doesn't that mean that the police are unable/unwilling to properly do their jobs and need be replaced or removed?

    • @Megatron_James_Brady8121
      @Megatron_James_Brady8121 Год назад

      Replaced!?? Removed??!!? Fawk No!!! When dumb niggas try and do dumb nigga shit.... ima need 12 ASAP.....

    • @adrianguinn3331
      @adrianguinn3331 Год назад

      No. Because cops dont stop crime. Never have. If they did the areas with the most cops would have the least crime. Its the opposite. Every single time.
      Cops arent mind readers. This isnt MINORITY REPORT.
      If someone comes into a conversation about law enforcement with this nonsense just ignore em. Theyre playing with faulty equipment and should be kept in the kiddie pool. Let the grown folk handle it.

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 Год назад

      How can a cop stop you (for example) walking across the street and shooting me in the face? Minority Report is probably 20 years away.

    • @marinblaze
      @marinblaze Год назад +2

      Yeah, blame everyone but the criminals

  • @Lee-is6db
    @Lee-is6db 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm just finding this video now but Tort was a friend while they lived in Tallahassee. Thank you so so much for bringing attention to this. Even now a year later, we're still fighting to stop cop city from being built. Tortuguita vive, la lucha sigue.

  • @mltaber
    @mltaber Год назад +4

    Thanks so much for putting the light on this, Kamau is so right that one of the primary tools of the state is isolation of activists, this solidarity is much appreciated

  • @smallguy2
    @smallguy2 Год назад +40

    Land of the free, so long as you ignore the prison system...

    • @ebuslamentee5963
      @ebuslamentee5963 Год назад +1

      Yeah bro if people are breaking the peace they need some actual punishment to put them into line like Singapore, but maybe scaled down a bit for weed trafficking

  • @avtsu5434
    @avtsu5434 Год назад +5

    protesters being charged with dom*stic t*r*sm is a really bad sign, i think.
    here in australia, our economy is very dependent on coal and other mined resources, so our government has been extremely reluctant to act on climate change, leading to a lot of environmental protests. there are strong civil disobedience movements around the country focused on climate justice, but within the last few years the cops have become more and more violent with them, the charges they've faced have been more jumped-up, and a few have been sentenced to extended jail time. meanwhile the government, particularly in nsw, have been passing bills restricting the right to protest. the T word - particularly eco- t - being thrown around was the start of this crackdown.

  • @leechgrl
    @leechgrl Год назад +3

    protests around the country. Solidarity with Atlanta and the brave protestors giving their lives to stop deforestation and cop city 🖤❤️🔥🔥

  • @LordBaNZa
    @LordBaNZa Год назад +15

    What would the ideal behavior for an elected official in the Metro Atlanta area be. If I was going to call my Rep/Senator or even go down to the Capitol building, what should I be saying?

  • @JawnLouis
    @JawnLouis Год назад +12

    Just came across this video and I actually just dropped a video essay on the police state in black neighborhoods with the use of shot spotter listening devices 24/7 police cameras and other programs on top of facial recognition false positives on black people

  • @maiawells9597
    @maiawells9597 Год назад +24

    Thank you for boosting this with your platform. It’s been years of fighting this and I hope we can finally kick it to the curb.

  • @russlcorey
    @russlcorey Год назад +40

    I made a video complaining about how my city’s police budget is out of control. Even here in Eugene Oregon, our police budget skyrocketing while our police commissioner is complaining about being spread thin. I also showed that there are less incidents reported so they are literally doing less work but still getting an ever increasing budget.

    • @GenericUrbanism
      @GenericUrbanism Год назад +1

      Great video

    • @lilrocky2640
      @lilrocky2640 Год назад +7

      It’s gross how EPD harasses homeless people for simply existing.

    • @russlcorey
      @russlcorey Год назад +9

      @@lilrocky2640 I agree. Im going to try to make a video about how police treat the homeless in Eugene.

    • @kerishaw8991
      @kerishaw8991 Год назад +3

      @@russlcorey please do! I am from Eugene and super interested.

    • @russlcorey
      @russlcorey Год назад +3

      @@kerishaw8991 For sure! 😃

  • @prinxe4230
    @prinxe4230 Год назад +11

    Some of the comments on this is full on depressing. We can do better than having a police state. Thank you for spreading the word FD.

  • @Turnoutburndown
    @Turnoutburndown Год назад +7

    That was wild about the political power that police unions have. It reminded me of this idea that when a government gets overthrown the next group that takes over is the military. Because they are the most organized, well funded and connected. I bet the same is true of the police.

  • @dimitriid
    @dimitriid Год назад +77

    This honestly sounds like School of the Americas 2.0: Except now it's targetting their own citizens but if the tactics passed there are the same or even close (And I suspect they will be) then that's supremely important to immediately stop.

    • @cryptbeast3222
      @cryptbeast3222 Год назад

      A lot of the tactics used in the school of Americas has long been used by cops towards black communities in America. As terrible as they are now, they were much worse in the past. Same torture techniques, including mutilating methods for further targeting specific individuals to water boarding. Cointelpro to infiltrate and destroy radical left wing black organizations inside out. This just concentrates them into a base to wage similar street wars on cities across America.

    • @candyh4284
      @candyh4284 Год назад +17

      There was a quote, I can't find who said it, but it said that "Fascism is imperialism turned inwards."

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Год назад +8

      @@candyh4284 must be taken from a quote that said the opposite, which is equally true (imperialism is fascism pushed overseas, or whatever it was)

    • @candyh4284
      @candyh4284 Год назад +1

      @@xBINARYGODx that does sound right! it's killing me that i can't find this...

    • @candyh4284
      @candyh4284 Год назад +2

      @@zero1188 to what end are you asking this? because the answer varies

  • @pinarchives
    @pinarchives Год назад +17

    kamau calling gentrification ethnic cleansing was eye opening. like he's 100% right, i'd just never heard it put that way. will be using that talking point myself now

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Год назад +2

      It is.
      Back in the 90's I heard the joke: Urban Renewal = N€gr0 removal.
      ...Although I want to note it's intersectional, it's not always black people but it's always poorish people, and it's whoever doesn't have the $$$power coupons to fight.
      The same as the way toxic pollution sources get sited?...
      Not always black, not always nonwhite, but always without enough money and connections to fight what's getting shoved on them?
      And because of systemic racism, nonwhite people have less money/resources on the whole.

    • @ebuslamentee5963
      @ebuslamentee5963 Год назад +1

      How else are you going to fix the hoods and reverse inequalities

  • @ashleighbloom9156
    @ashleighbloom9156 Год назад +19

    thank you so much for boosting this on your platform, cop city genuinely terrifies me as an atlanta resident and it pisses me off how much the city council and the apd have twisted themselves into pretzels trying to justify building this facility on public land despite massive pushback from their own constituents.

  • @slaughterhome
    @slaughterhome Год назад +26

    Here to support my dawg. Peace and love.

  • @williammartin3451
    @williammartin3451 Год назад +29

    Thank you so much for all of this. And hope everyone who sees this keeps hope and keeps that fire in their belly.

    • @williammartin3451
      @williammartin3451 Год назад +2

      @Jason Flake you lurk around videos of activists and insult people lamely. Sure dude, you must be a big winner.

  • @jazzknh1105
    @jazzknh1105 Год назад +10

    This is ludicrous, it's like something out of Judge Dredd but worse. And they have the gall to say it's about 'crime stopping'. Who do they think they're fooling?

  • @MystiqMiu
    @MystiqMiu Год назад +31

    Glad to see you highlighting this to a larger audience, it feels like we're the testing ground rn....

  • @feykingjulian
    @feykingjulian Год назад +21

    From what I've heard from friends who have done work protesting and demonstrating down there - they can always use more people!! Seriously they are always saying we can come down whenever, anything you can do helps even if it's just physically being around in the forest, helping people stay hydrated, whatever.

  • @yvans.73
    @yvans.73 Год назад +18

    This is horrific. Thank you both for spreading the word, because this sounds like something they plan on spreading across the country

  • @donovan5656
    @donovan5656 Год назад +14

    Just donated to the ATL Solidarity Fund. Hope it helps.

  • @frannie4310
    @frannie4310 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for bringing attention to this! I’m a Georgian and am involved in the fight against cop city, but it’s barely talked about on the internet. Great video! Stop cop city!

  • @truthspeeker1
    @truthspeeker1 Год назад +11

    Hey everybody I just went through all the links in the Vid description, all of them have donation pages. I highly encourage all of you to donate If you can It's a real tangible way you can help stop this!

  • @SkullPrism
    @SkullPrism Год назад +4

    Watching this after the Atlanda police murdered a land defender standing against "Cop City" just really gives this sense of doom and dread.

  • @LC-sc3en
    @LC-sc3en Год назад +2

    Donated to the solidarity fund. I can't be there but I appreciate all who are working so hard to stop this. This shouldn't happen anywhere in the US and if it is not stopped here it will happen almost everywhere. Cops seem to have the same type of "keep up with the Jones's" syndrome as a 15 year old boy obsessed with the Marines.

  • @noobking3000
    @noobking3000 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for using your platform to talk about this fight. It is worldwide

  • @joeybaddog398
    @joeybaddog398 Год назад +34

    This is terrifying-thanks for posting FD

  • @steampoweredmaniac5359
    @steampoweredmaniac5359 Год назад +7

    The amount of contemporary (not even within the the year but also from up to 10 year old) "news" clips I received through my feed, where subject matter was predominantly "watch this black man rob or assault said nonblack victim", was eyeopening. RUclips/Google is really trying to peddle the fear.

    • @wkyt9324
      @wkyt9324 Год назад +2

      They're just mimicking traditional U.S. media practices.

    • @Nai-qk4vp
      @Nai-qk4vp Год назад +2

      @@wkyt9324 Like when the lying mainstream media showed pictures of supposed hundreds of thousands of protesters marching against the Cuban government and in fact it was a March celebrating the anniversaey of the revolution.

    • @NV555_82nd
      @NV555_82nd Год назад

      @@Nai-qk4vp we do agree on one thing the lying mainstream media.

  • @TheFysh
    @TheFysh Год назад +1

    I had originally passed this video up until i saw your tweet with the stats. I'm very glad i came back to watch it because this definitely needs attention.

  • @radicalselfie
    @radicalselfie Год назад +5

    Community Movement Builders stay on it! I really appreciate you highlighting the work happening here. Vital!

  • @sarahwilson7825
    @sarahwilson7825 Год назад +82

    What can we do to support people of Atlanta, Georgia... if we are across the country as listeners/subscribers/Americans?

    • @afroditesis4738
      @afroditesis4738 Год назад +78

      You can donate to the websites in the description box and raise awareness of the situation and the people charged.

    • @fluffskunk
      @fluffskunk Год назад +20

      Overthrow capitalism.

    • @casadastraphobia
      @casadastraphobia Год назад +12

      @Daruki Neo ok weeb

    • @lane6216
      @lane6216 Год назад +3

      This is what I came here to ask. I feel powerless. I want to help in any way I can.

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 Год назад +5

      @@fluffskunk 💜💗🧡💙💛🤍

  • @franceshurstbrubaker6373
    @franceshurstbrubaker6373 Год назад +2

    Thank you for sharing resources and information about this. Great video and interview!

  • @TedTrembinski
    @TedTrembinski Год назад +1

    Thanks for lifting this up! I'm glad this video is back online.

  • @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian
    @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian Год назад +7

    Ill be dure to share this!! Thanks FD!

  • @Thecatdrums3
    @Thecatdrums3 Год назад +7

    Same thing happens in Laredo Texas. Hell you have to go through a second Border checkpoint; that’s how much of a police city it is.
    Send us brown people some help

  • @jgray2718
    @jgray2718 Год назад +1

    Thanks for keeping us updated. I don't have much money but I think I can scrape together a couple bucks to help.

  • @Smile-ni9nc
    @Smile-ni9nc Год назад +1

    This sounds so scary! Thank you for shining a light on this issue

  • @matthewmorris6378
    @matthewmorris6378 Год назад +6

    We started teaching active duty US soldiers crowd control tactics in 2010 following the Fort Hood shooting in '09. Civilians can't counter this without community organization willing and able to turn out more free people then officers and soldiers can be deployed to an area. Like hundreds inside an hour to a neighborhood. AND it would have to be well-organized to make sure unsavory elements within the community organizations don't undermine their goals and make their communities more vulnerable (police and military fire disobedient subordinates...this makes the majority follow orders and reduces internal power struggles).

  • @Valkyrie_of_The_North
    @Valkyrie_of_The_North Год назад +3

    Thanks for the updated and detailed breakdown of whats going on in the fight against pig city

  • @alicem2103
    @alicem2103 Год назад

    Holy shit.
    Just dropping my comment to support! This *must* be stopped. I shared this video & the stop cop city website url on my social media. People need to be talking about this! It may effect Atlanta most right now but it DOESN'T stop there!

  • @outboardgull5285
    @outboardgull5285 Год назад +1

    Just chipped in $20 bucks to the Atlanta Solidarity Fund. Thanks for bringing attention to this!! 1312

  • @Elias-wf9so
    @Elias-wf9so Год назад +6

    One thing I learned from this video is that class precedes everything.

  • @tiny7235
    @tiny7235 Год назад +14

    Thank you for hosting Kamau Franklin and making this video

  • @vlogily8043
    @vlogily8043 Год назад +6

    Politicians get paid off in a variety of different ways whether campaign funds or other weird quid pro quo things that are ridiculously legal. They also get coerced in other ways, start to realize who they actually have to thank or curry favor to when they get elected, they also get new support and “advisers” because that’s the person who got elected, so anyone who is not outright partisan will line up to see what they can get out of the elected official

  • @Itharl
    @Itharl Год назад +17

    "You don't want to end up like your cousins". Oof, did that hit home for me. I grew up in a predominantly white, retiree suburb while my literal cousins lived across the railroad tracks in the "higher policed areas", my parents bought into this idea 100% and I know they were not alone in that generation. Never realized how insidious that mindset was until now when I'm in my 40s. I'm very thankful for all my blessings and opportunities that getting an education did afford me, but oof. Outcomes were very different for my cousins.

  • @thexalon
    @thexalon Год назад +5

    When it comes to cops asking for tons of stuff, NWA expressed my opinion better than 1000 academic papers.

  • @giovannybaez2648
    @giovannybaez2648 Год назад +4

    I get so many of your videos in my recommended but I had to actively search for this one

  • @mattmattson7152
    @mattmattson7152 Год назад +1

    thank you so much for posting about this and bringing some attention!!

  • @ravendreaming3966
    @ravendreaming3966 Год назад +2

    Oh, I've been ikeeping an eye on this! Sent some postcards to two of the people that were arrested protesting this shit.

  • @eggsburst789
    @eggsburst789 Год назад +16

    This sounds concerning

  • @nocturnalniceties6585
    @nocturnalniceties6585 Год назад +2

    This is really important so I'm commenting to boost engagement. Gonna return to watch this video again a re-digest what's going on.

  • @PrincessEowynn
    @PrincessEowynn Год назад +14

    So this wasn’t really the point of the video but y’all mentioned how Cop City was an act of gentrification which I found pretty enlightening. Since I’m white I don’t really see the effects of gentrification in the same way that a black person living in a neighborhood actively being gentrified would. Is there any way that communities can improve the spaces that they take up without it necessarily leading to the expulsion of black people that comes about from rising prices? Would something as simple as pricing or rent controls be enough to stop this effect? Obviously Cop City isn’t improving the community for the people already living in Atlanta, but it’s just what got me thinking. Any places to learn more about this would be really appreciated from anyone who happens to read this

    • @Velo_Jello
      @Velo_Jello Год назад +3

      Seconding the fact that this was revelatory (as well as curiosity about community improvement without pricing the existing community out of their homes)

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 Год назад +7

      By the time you're begging local officials to do something, usually it's already too late.
      You've got to prevent them from showing up in the first place. See a really expensive vehicle? Slash their tires. Pour dirt/sugar in the gas tank. Key their car. Smash their windows.
      See an empty spot on any surface in your neighborhood in a high traffic area? Plaster and/or graffiti it with stickers with catchy memes/slogans or QR codes to more resources for help.
      Their addresses are usually public information.

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 Год назад +5

      The problem with working in the system is that they're already so red lined, gerrymandered, and other forms of oppression.
      You're on their turf and their terms. Make your own.

    • @StopCopCity1312
      @StopCopCity1312 Год назад +5

      I'd recommend Crimethinc, UnicornRiot and It'sGoingDown News if you want to keep up.

    • @Birbface
      @Birbface Год назад +3

      I'm not sure how smashing windows, slashing the tires of SUVs or blowing them up opposes gentrification. It would logically invite militarised policing and therefore exodus of communities - with the poorest suffering the worst. 'Urban decay' is the reason gentrification can occur, with councils deciding land that looks run down could actually be ripe for investment and property development. If you wish to oppose this then help organise community work to clean up an area, meaning literally clean walls and signs, sidewalks, remove trash, etc., and try to bring in those large flowerbeds and boxes to make the place look attractive and welcoming. The reason lack of investment occurs and that areas looking shit just look shitter and shitter is that no one wants to live in filth, moreover, no one bothers to clean up filth when it's just going to get filthy again. So clean it, and keep cleaning it, making your efforts visible and telling people you're doing it. Then people automatically start to take better care of it. Shit graffiti and obscure socialist 'slogans' is just going to turn people off. Try another anarchist approach that doesn't always rely on violence: propaganda of the deed.

  • @codycarlson9804
    @codycarlson9804 Год назад +3

    Thanks for covering this!!

  • @emmalinehawthorne3922
    @emmalinehawthorne3922 Год назад +6

    Did all the algorithm things. Thanks for putting these type of videos on your channel.

  • @Herbgerblin
    @Herbgerblin Год назад +12

    Thank you for making a video about this because it needs continued attention

  • @kfighterkfighterTBTR
    @kfighterkfighterTBTR 8 месяцев назад

    THANK YOU FOR THIS BROADCAST & BRO KAMAU'S GREAT EXPLANATION OF COP CITY. SHARING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 💯💯 SUBSCRIBED!!

  • @mazy3213
    @mazy3213 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much for speaking on this!!

  • @thewokeagenda
    @thewokeagenda Год назад +17

    I honestly wish I could help. But I'm pretty poor right now and I can barely survive myself. This delimma always hurts me because I want to. I really do every time. It always just comes down to me not having the money, means and/or time to do so. I honestly hate capitalism. It prevents humanity from advancing

    • @By_Ash_Away
      @By_Ash_Away Год назад +4

      Your comment alone could help to bring this video more eyes ❤️❤️ solidarity to you

    • @da31133
      @da31133 Год назад +3

      We all have to do what we can. If we do that, if we all do it, we can win. So do the best you can and help others around you to help to the best of their abilities.

    • @realMacMadame
      @realMacMadame Год назад +1

      Write a letter/email to the Atlanta City Council... doesn't cost anything but time.

  • @zachklieman2141
    @zachklieman2141 Год назад +4

    I really appreciate the sociology reference to the point of creating criminalization. The connection to Israel is also terrifying and very telling

  • @justabook3961
    @justabook3961 Год назад +1

    Thank you for sharing this information. I hope we can make a difference

  • @vivianabarreto8363
    @vivianabarreto8363 Год назад +1

    YESS THIS IS AMAZING !!! Thank you for telling people about what is going in Atlanta

  • @TheAwsomeSawse
    @TheAwsomeSawse Год назад +4

    I have no idea how they get the public to go along with the corporate adaptation of fascism.

  • @noejaun2540
    @noejaun2540 Год назад +9

    Need a follow up to this. Not enough people are talking about the assassination of Tortuguita or Atlanta's uprising in response to it. We've got comrades in jail held on domestic terrorism charges. Memphis is looking to follow suit with it's own smaller cop city. The police are preparing for war on the public.

  • @nicholashall3117
    @nicholashall3117 Год назад +2

    This just sounds like a state side and state funded military base to dispatch on the people. Which should be FUCKING ALARMING! We as a people need to be sharpening our tongues as well as our sticks... ✊🏾

  • @larksmith629
    @larksmith629 Год назад +2

    Always here for issues in my city. Glad to learn more and how to help