4:05 Peter never had Stark money. The relationship between the two was always more of a coworker mentor-mentee. He was gifted some upgrades and the glasses but that’s about as far as he really received monetarily. He even says in the movie how he’s the “most famous person in the world but still broke”. But really glad you guys enjoyed the movie!
You guys asked if the villains being cured and sent back to their universes changed the outcome of the old movies they came from. Using what we learned from the Loki series, I'd have to say no, those movies/timelines still exist. Now there's just a new branched timeline for each of those characters that were sent back. So now it depends on if there's a TVA pruning branch timelines in that universe.
I can't believe its been like three years and people still have to explain "changing the past creates an alternate timeline, it doesn't effect the original timeline". I still see people going off on Steve for 'being there secretly in the MCU the whole time with Peggy and letting all the bad stuff happen'
The actual lines in No Way Home from Doctor Strange when agreeing to do the spell makes a lot more sense in the movie than the trailer where he seemed out of character. Wong’s lines made more sense too.
Apparently there’s a hard-to-catch detail that Stark tech was being investigated because of Mysterio having co-opted so much of it even before he got EDITH from Peter; hence why Peter can’t bother them, they’re dealing with crap if their own.
You can be a fan of Tobey or Andrew and not be a fan of Tom. Just…DON’T be that guy who was in Sal’s theater. Not in public, especially. I think the magical thing about this movie is that it didn’t matter if you absolutely despise MCU’s “Iron Man Jr.” or if you’re like me, and you got defensive and found yourself saying “well what makes the others so great?” The moment you see all of them on screen, those feelings melted away.
I was thinking about the Uncle Ben question watching this, like why would Peter become Spider-man without Uncle Ben, after all that IS what convinces him to become a super hero. But then I thought wait, this is a young kid in a world where iron man and the avengers exist, of course that would influence a young kid with powers to become a super hero without having a tragedy to urge that on. On the other hand though, that "when bad things happen" reason Peter gives to Tony in civil war I think HEAVILY implies the Uncle Ben tragedy, particularly in Tom Holland's performance as well. Hopefully the "Freshman Year" animated show will clear it up. Super excited for that now.
That part in Civil War is what i always read into it as well, that that was Holland's Uncle Ben dying he was referring to. Otherwise, it makes 0 sense for him to become Spiderman. I do wish May had made some reference(s) to Ben though.
@@doomraven0 it doesn't make 0 sense. Like the above comment says, he's a kid who might look up to heroes and decide to become one. But that line did make me think of Uncle Ben. Maybe Uncle Ben didn't die in his arms, rather it was like the OG comics where he found out Ben was dead and later found the criminal. That would explain why the power and responsibility quote was missing. And the reason the line he said was more directed towards himself rather than general wisdom.
Here's how I see it, in the MCU uncle Ben is the reason Peter decided to be a hero with his powers but aunt May taught him the responsibility of those powers
When in “Homecoming he says to ned l can’t let her( aunt may) find out I’m Spider-Man not after everything she’s gone through- implying the death of uncle Ben and also the luggage he takes to Europe in far from home
When it comes to the theater going experience with huge movies like this or Endgame, I'm sorry but you go to the theater to be a part of the experience KNOWING you're surrounded by people dying to see this movie just like you, it's what makes it fun and if you don't like that wait to see it at home. Now that being said, I'm sorry for Sal. People...the characters on screen can't hear you.
As much as Zendaya's performance helped sell the drama of the ending, I felt way more upset about Peter losing Ned. That might be the last time they do the handshake, man.
Im actually curious if that will be the last time we see MJ and Ned, I kinda felt that in this movie at least they had grown so much as characters it would be a shame to write them off
I like that Sandman was just trying to go home to his daughter, he didn't wanna be cured or any of that he just wanted to take the box back and send everyone home.
I don't really get Dylan's Jameson take considering that's kinda always been the character. Like Jameson's claim to fame is being hyperbolic to no end about Spidey, regardless of whether he fully believes what he's saying or not. You can still redeem that if you write it correctly; people in real life have been redeemed from far worse
@@DS01 I disagree to an extent because not every portrayal of Jameson is like the "Alex Jones" type. My biggest support is Spider-Man: The Animated Series. He thinks Spider-Man is a menace because of his experience with people in masks and how they can evade accountability. But he also realizes when Spider-Man does good and can work with him when it comes down to it. Plus he's got journalistic integrity as shown in "The Alien Costume" saga. He gives a retraction about Brock lying to him that Spidey stole Prometheus X. He believes in what he publishes. The idea that he would push BS supplements on his podcast did rub me the wrong way. Especially since I grew up with the Spider-Man: The Animated Series and the Sami Raimi Trilogy, which both Jameson's portrayals are ones about actually believing in what they publish and are willing to make corrections when they get things wrong.
I went it not really expecting much. Truthfully, I wasn't excited, you can go back to past comments I've made regarding this movie. And I have to say. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN! I did not expect to have as much fun as I did, especially since I was aware of who were going to be in this movie. I am impressed in how they handled this. I have some problems but goddamn was this fun
I was honestly waiting for Jameson to come out at the end of act two with him branding "The Sinister Six Attacks" thinking the Spiderman, Doc, Goblin, Electro, Sandman and Lizard are the Sinister Six!!!
I actually thought he is going to be the sixth member in a technical way, since his antagonistic conspiracy act toward Peter is what jumpstart the movie
Only enjoyed act 2 and act 3. The Peter scenes are highlights of the movie to me. The movie feels more mature in the narrative and took bold chances. It did feel more like a traditional down on his luck Spider-Man story.
I had a pretty great theater experience tbh. I was able to buy tickets Thursday for Friday at 1115 am. Barely anyone was there. The only time people clapped were for Garfield and Maguire. And it was kept to a minimum. I was in the back with my friends so we were able to kind of talk amongst ourselves
I LOVED this movie. The ending was exactly what I wanted, he finally feels like Spider-Man, and I am psyched to see his continuing adventures. And given all of the suffering Peter endures as a character, him being erased is in keeping with his history. This movie was like Spider-Verse and One More Day -- but if the comics actually did a good job with One More Day.
So Peter is in college, no MJ, no personal ties to anyone... *sniff siff* do I smell a Black Cat... could Peter and Felicia meet in College? New love interest?
I decided to see this without watching any trailers because of Dylan's recommendation and holy shit that was the best experience I've ever had watching a movie
Spider-Man No Way Home” is a distinguished and entertaining film that is easily one of the best movies of 2021. The action sequences are tense, and the cinematography is stunning-particularly when the audience sees three different Spider-Man battling together for the first time. The acting is tremendous.
My theatre experience was similar to Sal’s. Phones ringing, people talking very loudly, and the person in front of me stood up 4 or 5 times and blocked the screen during crucial scenes. It’s almost like people forgot theatre etiquette during covid. Regardless, I loved the movie and can’t wait for Spider-Man’s future in the MCU
Let's go watched the movie yesterday and I gotta say they handle the expectations very well for me personally. I thought Tobey and Andrew would only show up in the last 30 minutes but they show up earlier and their banter was amazing between all three spider man. Marisa Tomei Aunt May was great and I have no issue with her saying the classic great power speech considering the quote was done by the narrator. Now if only comic aunt May can die. William Dafoe Jamie Foxx were amazing too. But my personal favorite of the film is Tom Holland's Spiderman the face the film still focus on him throughout was perfect and the way he ended in this film was a good fresh start for future movies if he wanna continues
He even responds, "I know." further adding to it being likely he heard it from Ben before. Not that it wouldn't matter anyway, because someone saying the line is a fairly recent thing in the comics.
Be nice if McKenna & Sommers are kept together with confirmed director for the Fantastic 4 movie Jon Watts as the writing/directing team similar to Markus & McFeely and the Russo Brothers as they seem to work well together.
I absolutely loved this movie! I went to see this today and I’m so glad I did. I loved the interactions between the spidermen, the moments we got in the condo with Electro, Doc Ock, Norman and Sandman/Flint Marco. I just love seeing the chemistry between the characters, and then talking about stuff really. My favorite scene, in terms of the spidermen scenes was when all 3 of them were at the Statue of Liberty and were talking about the villains they fought, and before that, how Tobey Maguire’s Spiderman can just shoot webs from his wrists unlike the other two when they rely on technology for that. I also like the line where Andrew’s Spiderman said how he always wanted brothers, and I could sense the brotherhood between him and Tobey’s spiderman. Also, Sal mentioning how Tobey’s Spiderman probably has a kid (since Tiffany told Sal how Tobey’s Spiderman saying “it’s complicated” probably means that he’s married and has a kid with MJ), I didn’t even think of that. I just assumed that their relationship was rocky and they just eventually worked things out. But now that I think about that idea being the case, I can actually see that being why Tobey’s Spiderman said “it’s complicated” when it came to him mentioning his relationship with his Mary Jane. Honestly, I’d love to think that’s the case, since he’s the oldest one of the trio, and he’s probably lived a good life to where he’s now got a family of his own (sorry for rambling about that, I just love that idea that he and Mary Jane have a kid in their universe haha). But yeah, overall, this movie was great, and I just loved the story and how it came to its conclusion here. I’m excited to see what the next spiderman movie will have, especially now that Peter is gonna be spiderman on his own this time, and that his suit looks like in the comic books, aka being a classic spiderman suit look
I was literally in the bathroom for a VERY short amount of time at the beginning and what did I miss?? Exactly what you said you could have missed by going to the bathroom. So pissed!
It is hilarious that the mid-credits scene from Homecoming now means nothing. Adrian knowing Peter was Spider-Man and not revealing it to Mac Gargan is useless so yeah, there was no real plan. That’s fine with No Way Home being so good and getting Spider-Man to the best place.
I think the point of that scene was to show how Peter’s goodness could rub off on his villains. Adrian knows that Peter really does mean well especially saving his daughter and his life, so he keeps his secret because he respects Peter for what he stands for. If anything, it’s a theme that runs in this movie where Peter goes on to try and help all these villains who will kill try to kill him.
@@MikoDraw Sure, but Adrian now has no idea who Peter is which makes that scene irrelevant. He appreciates Peter for saving his life, however, Homecoming is now a completely skippable movie.
Pretty confident the multiverse was NEVER their plan for Spiderman stuff and it just happened to work out with the planned Dr Strange connection and Spider Verse being so successful.
@@DanV900 I definitely won’t skip it, it’s a great movie and a nice touch. Just because things have changed doesn’t mean you can’t go back and appreciate a great Spider-Man movie.
@@MikoDraw If we ever get Scorpion and Vulture to return, sure. Now it’s a good and entertaining movie, not a great Spider-Man movie. It’s not an essential MCU movie which is fine.
@@anthonymarciano6050 That was significantly later which Benny referenced. I know he mentioned it happened in Spencer’s run, but it was really Zdarsky’s run before that happened.
I've never related to a Spider-man more than when Peter was talking to Strange and says "wait? I could just call the school?" And Strange yells at him for not thinking of asking MIT to reconsider first
Someone didn’t see Me and Earl and the Dying Girl or read the book. It’s been a thing for years with colleges where you can get your admission revoked due to poor grades too.
I saw it at 10am on Friday morning and there was some guy in the back who every time someone showed up he yelled "OH SHIT! THAT'S [character's name]! I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT'S [character's name]!" And there was a lot of clapping for no reason. But other than that, I loved the movie.
I live in a country where we never have extreme reactions in the cinema anyways so it’s always good The cheering and standing up and clapping seems like it’s only an American thing
@@lewisbaldwin9683 Why waste even 5 minutes on Ned who no longer knows who Peter Parker is and didn’t exactly interact with Doctor Strange much other than his “Hmmm” after he said he opened a portal. Ned is going to MIT and it makes no sense to have him be brought in where it’s an unnecessary thing to do.
I'm so glad you guys mentioned that issue with sandman. I noticed that immediately when he showed up at the big fight that he really didn't have any motivation to be there. Sure he wasn't trusting of Tom Holland after he found out it wasn't his spider man, but there wasn't anything to set him against Tom Holland. The only other issue I had with this movie was the first appearance of green goblin in the bridge scene, I feel we should have gotten at least 30 seconds of a fight with him after he showed up, especially after we got like 5 minutes of doc oc fighting. You easily could have taken 30 seconds from doc oc and giving it to Green goblin. And I feel like if we did, we would have gotten even more of a depth to him showing up to Aunt May as Norman and asking for help. Or him destroying the power ranger helmet? I just felt like he got jipped a bit, since all he got to do was drop a bomb. Even sandman and electro got more of an intro than he did. It was kinda disappointing. But all in all, amazing movie! Hands down one of my favorite MCU movies to date
I get the feeling there are some cut scenes there. Same with Doc Ock disappearing from the movie until he jumps up with Electro, and then betrays him as if that was set up?
@@PurpleColonel It was set up with the chip, but yeah, he was left behind until he came back at that moment. Electro did electrocute him where they mentioned how it could have shorted out the chip, but it didn’t.
I definitely agree with Dillion on not liking the Andrew movies but really enjoying him in this movie and getting it! I’m 100% down for him to return in some capacity.
We expected the Sinister Six, but got the Ultimate Six which had Spider-Man as part of it. Now that was by blackmail compared to Spider-Man wanting to get the villains to go with him.
Don't know if will be a popular opinion, but I feel like Peter getting a reboot is making an opening to the Fantastic Four, and the X-men, since he's a pivotal point in both arcs opening up
Having just watched the movie, I wasn't sure how to feel. They did a lot of things I wasn't sure about, but having listened to you guys, man, I think I did really enjoy this movie and I'm excited to see what they're going to do with the character(s) here on out, it's more just the initial shock of what they did and the fact that I was a little grumpy in the theater because I had chattering hogmonkeys all around me. Cheering for too loud and too long, some people talking about upcoming scenes to the left from spoilers they found online or explaining backstories, some people asking questions about what was going on in spanish on the right, like, guys, come on, if you did not see the other movies of the MCU and the other Spider-Man movies which were clearly advertised to be important, what are you doing in here?! But regardless, do none of you know how to act in a movie theater? I get that I saw the movie on opening weekend, but it's to avoid getting spoiled because people on the Internet are jerks, not also have the movie ruined in every other way. But the parts I was able to watch I enjoyed. That said, I was disappointed that Tobey's suit didn't have the proper raised webbing while Andrew's suit looked like they pulled it right off the hanger from leftover props from TASM 2. You guys spent all that money to have Sandman be CG all the time when he didn't need to be, but Tobey can't have his suit look right? I've got a number of little gripes about this movie, like some of the metatextual commentary about backs or being lame but actually amazing. I mean I get it, but also, it was pulling me out from the movie. Also they gave Doc Ock and Electro their themes, and nobody else got theirs. There was more of a choir when all the Spider-Men were swinging, but I was hoping everyone's themes would have come back and played when things were happening. Like, we followed Andrew for a hot second and Tom's theme played. No, he needs one of the two themes he got. I know, I should be happy everyone's in the movie, but if you're going to do it, man, do it right and give me some proper themed music. Of the three MCU Spidey movies, I think I like Homecoming the most, Mysterio is one of the best villains in a Spider-Man movie (let alone the MCU) which really elevates Far From Home, and No Way Home feels a bit odd because it's everyone else's villains and it felt like something was kind of missing without the Vulture and Mysterio, but they're not superpowered or physically augmented, so there's nothing to fix, so they wouldn't have fit the premise of the movie. Also, I don't want to lose Ned or Michelle, but this does offer an out for fulfilled contracts, and now new characters can be introduced. At least No Way Home felt like a conclusion to the trilogy, and I do appreciate that. In fact, it's the most definitive an end to a movie franchise in the MCU has been since Iron Man 3. It's still not a proper trilogy because Civil War precluded things and Infinity War and Endgame are crammed between Homecoming and Far From Home, but whatever, such an idea of a trilogy of movies being a singular story in the MCU is wishful thinking.
Tobeys webbing was raised from what I saw, but it was much more flat and closer to the suit than previously seen. The lenses are also black and white again and the logo is just barely different, so I just take it that it's a newer suit that he made in his later years as Spider-Man. I think Andrews suit hasn't changed at all because Gwen made that costume for him in a canon supplementary comic that serves as an inbetweener for TASM and TASM 2. That's just my theory tho
I think the single best experience I've ever had in a theater was the Cap Hammer moment. All at once everyone just...screamed. They didn't cheer, they just screamed, and I swear to god for a split second my hearing dipped out at the volume of it. I went to see NWH in a small town at 10pm, so there was maybe 20 other people and it was basically silent the entire time, and I felt like I missed out a bit on the experiance. Its awesome sometimes to hear everyone reacting the way I'm feeling
It was so weird, but i saw Endgame on opening night in a packed theater and people laughed but they were so quiet most of the time because they were all super into it. Strange to have such a respectful theater experience. Which is great, as much as i loved the Mjolnir moment, hearing "On your left." quietly from Falcon was probably my favorite part and i was glad we were able to hear it.
Man that interview with Tom was so weird. Like you were just in a movie where they got TOBEY MAGUIRE to show up, play a part and act like he gives a shit, you really don't think they'll find an offer you can't say no to?
You know, if you don't know that Matt Murdock is Daredevil, you really do believe that he's that good a lawyer, that brick had some malicious libel on it. Literally protects his client from some dangerous speech.
I'm certain we're going to get Ned back in the college movies as a sort of friend, or maybe even have him upset at Peter now because he's in love with Michelle. And that's how we're gonna get an original, unique MCU goblin with personal stakes.
I still think MCU Peter had an uncle Ben. The other two Peter Parkers say “uncle Ben said that” as if MCU Peter maybe knows uncle Ben but it’s something May knows from him and he never said it to Peter. Just my thought/opinion. I mean, he never says he DOESN’T have an uncle Ben.
It worked for me. There was perhaps to many jokes at the start for something so serious and I did feel like we were just waiting for the villains to show up and the spell to go wrong but from the moment when Peter took the cube from Strange to the final swing I loved this film. I didn’t even mind the open wing stuff I felt like it was needed to why Peter would want to do this. Now, this is a spoiler review which means I can talk about the returns of Toby and Andrew. What an iconic moment. Again maybe to many jokes (the most jokes Toby’s Spider-Man has ever had honestly) but them doing the science stuff together, talking about their guilt and loss or even as simple as them talking about the villains they thought and how Toby and Andrew are fascinated by the fact they are in space. By the way, one thing I wanted from this film was for each Peter to feel different and whilst the amount of jokes made that a bit hard sometimes they managed to distinguish them by revealing what they had been up to since their franchises ended, for Toby it was balancing being Spider-Man and being with Mary Jane after years of struggling or his ego getting in the way, for Andrew his anger over failing to save Gwen basically made him a bit like Ronin when you think about it as he was killing people or at least brutally injuring them. He FAILED at being Spider-Man and that’s why he wanted to not only redeem himself but also prevent Holland’s Spider-Man from doing the same. Toby’s Spider-Man always saw the good in people dispute their anger and them being evil and that’s why he stopped Holland’s Spider-Man from killing Norman. Genuinely shocked we didn’t get a Doc Ock and Toby Spider-Man team up against Norman. The cure plot was fun but also in a way a bit sad. It felt like they closed the door on those characters returning and that’s a shame but I do think it worked and fit with Spider-Man not wanting to send them back to die. The Holland and Defo fight scenes were incredible especially the ones in the apartment where he is just punching him with such anger and each time Goblin smiles more and more and even laughs!! Also, Aunt May as brilliant here. The best Aunt May has been since the first TASM honestly. Her saying to Peter “with great power comes great responsibility” was a brilliant moment and was the moment that nearly made me cry. Her death was handled very well, both nailed that scene. Now, the ending. I usually would hate this kind of ending but I’m going to say this, it’s the most Spider-Man ending to a film ever. What I mean by that is it’s him having to throw everything he loves away, to protect the people he loves and to help everyone “when you can help someone, you help everyone”. Him making everyone forget who Peter Parker is was a fantastic way to basically do a soft reboot. Him getting a crap apartment and needing to pay rent and then hearing on the radio about a crime so he can suit up and go after them was a very Tobey Maguire Spider-Man thing to do. The new costume looks fantastic by the way. Gone is the Iron Boy Jr memes, gone is this boy struggling to grow up, this film humbled Tom Holland’s Spider-Man and made him an adult and made him Spider-Man in my opinion. He say a single word when swinging, nothing. He swung alone with a new found responsibility to do the right thing. Spider-Man 4 (or Venom 3) seems to be a crossover between the two with maybe the black suit getting to Spider-Man and him going across the multiverse to fully connect it to Tom Hardy’s Venom. This is probably how they right him out of the MCU. No one knows who Peter Parker is now. Personally, I say do it the other way around, bring Venom INTO the MCU. You want Avengers 5 to feel massive and like a big deal, a team of Doctor Strange, Thor, Spider-Man, Venom and Shang-Chi would be a fun way to do it.
I talked into this video at the one hour mark and the video has almost 700 views. Not bad Benny, Sal, and Dillon. Curious if the snap impacted the other dimensions.
The J Jonah Jameson from the comic books is none of those things. Most of the time he’s an honest newspaper runner who truly believes Spider-Man is evil. He has done evil things at times. He has regretted his point of view on Spider-Man at times before reverting back. But he’s not a ConMan or a Charlatan or a bad person in the comics, he’s just somebody who does not like vigilantes. Y’all sound like rob
Evidence for the existence of Uncle Ben in the MCU -The Russos said that he did die -Jon Watts said that Ben did exist Captain America: Civil War - May is wearing a wedding ring around her neck, I wonder who she was married to??? Captain America: Civil War - Peter implies something bad happened because of him Spider-Man: Homecoming - Peter says "With everything that's happened with her(May)" I wonder who he was talking about Spider-Man: Far From Home - The suitcase Peter uses in FFH has Ben's initials on it "BFP" "What if" name dropped Uncle Ben. They literally found an excuse to name drop Uncle Ben when Marvel finally had full creative control. Spider-Man: No Way Home - Peter says "Yeah I know" when May drops the responsibility line Spider-Man: No Way Home - Peter doesn't ask who Uncle Ben is even when Andrew and Tobey are speaking of him in a "of course you have an Uncle Ben" kinda way. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Evidence for the contrary -Jon Watts went back and said that we don't know whether or not he existed The fact he hasn't been mentioned in the films at all until NWH The fact May doesn't mention him as she's dying The fact Peter doesn't mention Uncle Ben when Andrew and Tobey do The fact that Ben's grave wasn't present at May's gravesite ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The cheering makes the movie better in some ways to me. It means your among you fellow fans and your all equally hyped for it. Like what are you gonna complain that you can't hear music at a live concert with the cheers. Sometimes you just can't hold it in and need to shout your cheers. Normally for me I don't really do it that loud more so under my breath with like a trucker arm pull. But even this movie had me cheering. I just couldn't hold it in
This movie seems like it truly was made FOR the fans. Not for the studio to make money. This seems to be what my childhood was building to growing up with Tobey movies. I cried for damn near 30 minutes straight at the sad scene then tears of joy when the spider-men came in
The movie was fun, but imo it’s not the best Spider-Man movie. The MCU has messed up Spider-Man too much. Completely butchered his origin, Iron Man is his mentor, and the fact they changed all of the Spider-Man’s supporting characters. They had a chance to fix this with the multiverse, but they ended up making it worse. Now Peter knows all of his Rogue’s gallery. I don’t understand the reason for Disney to diverge so much from the source material.
I’m listening to the theater experiences section and I gotta say seeing this movie on Christmas Eve when it was still pretty full but me and my friend had a few seats to ourselves was the way to go. I love seeing people get hyped but I probably would’ve just left and waited another week if I had to deal with people getting up and howling
Hearing that Andrew started killing people after gwen died really makes the ending of TASM 2 a lot more morbid when you think of what likely happened to Rhino.
He said he stopped pulling punches and became rageful. He didn’t say that he started killing people. There is a big difference there where you are assuming he was killing people.
@@DanV900 We’re talking about freaking Spider-Man not pulling his punches. The dude who can throw cars casually. It’s not Batman where if he lets loose criminal go into the ICU What do you think that meant. He doesn’t have to spell it out for you to get it. You can tell he felt disgusted by it with immense regret. And in the context of Tom wanted to kill GG and telling them that this interpretation of his words make more sense. Cause Andrews been down that road.
@@youfirst6611 He clearly was brutal and was putting people in the hospital, but you are the one who wants to believe that he was killing people. You ask Andrew Garfield about that and I guarantee he says that his version wasn’t killing people even after becoming rageful. Read Back in Black for Christ’s sake as far as a brutal version of Spider-Man. You are very wrong here.
@@DanV900 Dude back in black isn’t Garfield’s continuity Stop acting as if the comics dictate the characters hardline characterization/trajectory in these movies. Cause when has a movie ever stuck to the comics 1 to 1. Garfield can say whatever he wants but he ain’t write the dialogue. His words hold no weights cause he ain’t the writer. He simply acts out what he’s given. The fact that lizard is here when the narrative of the film is that these villans die fighting Spider-Man. Since he didn’t die in TASM 1(since we see him in the post credit scene of TASM 1) logically it means they had a rematch after the the Events of TASM 2. Meaning he was killed post Gwen’s death. Which lines up with Andrews dialogue in the film about not holding back. Your calling me wrong when the signs are all there. Go rewatch the movie dude.
@@youfirst6611 You are confusing Doctor Strange’s lines from the trailer with the movie which Benny did here too. In the trailer, Strange says the villains’ fates are to die fighting Spider-Man. In the movie, he has no idea what their fates are and just wants to get them back to their own universes where after Peter tells him that some of them die, he responds by saying, “If they die, they die.” He then says their sacrifices are necessary. You are clearly the one who needs to rewatch the movie. The Doctor Strange dialogue is NOT the same since it was for marketing purposes. Lizard was cured to end ASM 1 and Garfield references doing that before while in the lab coat. He didn’t mention a rematch and there never was a rematch. Sandman also wasn’t killed in Spider-Man 3. You would have to assume that Tobey was involved in his death too later which is laughable. Tobey forgives Sandman who leaves to end Spider-Man 3. They didn’t fight again. Andrew Garfield’s dialogue says he became rageful and no longer pulled his punches where he was bitter and he doesn’t want Holland’s version to end up like him. That doesn’t mean that he started killing people. He just didn’t want Holland to be brutal like he was. He said he fought the Rhino by the way, not that he killed the Rhino which is the end of ASM 2. Tobey is the one to stop Tom Holland from killing Norman which you would have seen. He referenced being involved in killing the man that he thought killed Uncle Ben from Spider-Man 1 which is why he stops Tom Holland. Tobey is the one who admits to being involved in a death where it didn’t make things better. That’s why Back in Black is relevant in regards to Garfield with a brutal Spider-Man who doesn’t kill and even the Public Scrutiny arc from Ultimate Spider-Man where Spider-Man brutalizes the imposter. That imposter was just a teenage boy. Once again, watch the movie and don’t fall for the trailer’s dialogue for Doctor Strange. There is a HUGE difference. Wong says not to cast the spell in the trailer and in the movie says to leave him out of this when Strange mentions doing it. Those are not the same at all.
I had yelling, bad seating, my neck hurt because I was on the end. Someone had their baby crying. And I essentially had to tell somebody to stop standing in front of my seat at the start of the movie. Totally worth it to avoid the spoilers though. And Benny I got to say the worst thing for me is people talking during the movie. It’s not the cheering during the exciting parts, a lot of us love that.it’s cellphones and chit chat that ruins movies
An hour-long review of the best MCU Spider-Man movie yet. "Don't mind if I do."
Exactly what I’ve been waiting for
Imagine if Benny had said that near the end! 🤭
The best live-action Spider-Man movie thus far, in my opinion - not just MCU.
I wouldn’t go that far
@@sirmarshall9521 same
4:05 Peter never had Stark money. The relationship between the two was always more of a coworker mentor-mentee. He was gifted some upgrades and the glasses but that’s about as far as he really received monetarily. He even says in the movie how he’s the “most famous person in the world but still broke”. But really glad you guys enjoyed the movie!
Yeah, at absolute best he might have received a small stipend as a “Stark intern” but then he and Aunt May disappeared for five years anyway
You guys asked if the villains being cured and sent back to their universes changed the outcome of the old movies they came from. Using what we learned from the Loki series, I'd have to say no, those movies/timelines still exist. Now there's just a new branched timeline for each of those characters that were sent back. So now it depends on if there's a TVA pruning branch timelines in that universe.
I can't believe its been like three years and people still have to explain "changing the past creates an alternate timeline, it doesn't effect the original timeline". I still see people going off on Steve for 'being there secretly in the MCU the whole time with Peggy and letting all the bad stuff happen'
@@bloodyneptune Because with Steve's situation, that didn't seem like a different time line.
Exactly my thought process
A little detail I loved was when Peter was in his astral form, you could vaguely see the visual representation of his Spidey-sense from the comics.
YES THAT WAS AMAZING
What vague representation? His body moving on its own?
@@holup454 The lines above his head that they use when his spidey-sense is going off in the comics
@@TheBubbajoe7 wow fr?? I missed that
The actual lines in No Way Home from Doctor Strange when agreeing to do the spell makes a lot more sense in the movie than the trailer where he seemed out of character. Wong’s lines made more sense too.
Apparently there’s a hard-to-catch detail that Stark tech was being investigated because of Mysterio having co-opted so much of it even before he got EDITH from Peter; hence why Peter can’t bother them, they’re dealing with crap if their own.
I hope this plays into Armor Wars
It wasn’t hard to catch and it’s directly stated in the beginning as it shows Stark Industries and the trucks.
Exactly. A lot of people missed this
You can be a fan of Tobey or Andrew and not be a fan of Tom. Just…DON’T be that guy who was in Sal’s theater. Not in public, especially. I think the magical thing about this movie is that it didn’t matter if you absolutely despise MCU’s “Iron Man Jr.” or if you’re like me, and you got defensive and found yourself saying “well what makes the others so great?” The moment you see all of them on screen, those feelings melted away.
The Iron Man Jr. magazine cover at the start was hilarious though.
Bro are you sals biggest fan i see u in everything hes related to lol
I was thinking about the Uncle Ben question watching this, like why would Peter become Spider-man without Uncle Ben, after all that IS what convinces him to become a super hero. But then I thought wait, this is a young kid in a world where iron man and the avengers exist, of course that would influence a young kid with powers to become a super hero without having a tragedy to urge that on.
On the other hand though, that "when bad things happen" reason Peter gives to Tony in civil war I think HEAVILY implies the Uncle Ben tragedy, particularly in Tom Holland's performance as well. Hopefully the "Freshman Year" animated show will clear it up. Super excited for that now.
That part in Civil War is what i always read into it as well, that that was Holland's Uncle Ben dying he was referring to. Otherwise, it makes 0 sense for him to become Spiderman. I do wish May had made some reference(s) to Ben though.
@@doomraven0 it doesn't make 0 sense. Like the above comment says, he's a kid who might look up to heroes and decide to become one. But that line did make me think of Uncle Ben. Maybe Uncle Ben didn't die in his arms, rather it was like the OG comics where he found out Ben was dead and later found the criminal. That would explain why the power and responsibility quote was missing. And the reason the line he said was more directed towards himself rather than general wisdom.
Here's how I see it, in the MCU uncle Ben is the reason Peter decided to be a hero with his powers but aunt May taught him the responsibility of those powers
When in “Homecoming he says to ned l can’t let her( aunt may) find out I’m Spider-Man not after everything she’s gone through- implying the death of uncle Ben and also the luggage he takes to Europe in far from home
When it comes to the theater going experience with huge movies like this or Endgame, I'm sorry but you go to the theater to be a part of the experience KNOWING you're surrounded by people dying to see this movie just like you, it's what makes it fun and if you don't like that wait to see it at home. Now that being said, I'm sorry for Sal. People...the characters on screen can't hear you.
As much as Zendaya's performance helped sell the drama of the ending, I felt way more upset about Peter losing Ned.
That might be the last time they do the handshake, man.
Im actually curious if that will be the last time we see MJ and Ned, I kinda felt that in this movie at least they had grown so much as characters it would be a shame to write them off
@@Sunnyhillsfinest maybe we'll see them again but I hope they don't just remember everything immediately. At least not for another movie.
I like that Sandman was just trying to go home to his daughter, he didn't wanna be cured or any of that he just wanted to take the box back and send everyone home.
My theatre cheered and lost it at Charlie Cox, and both the spider- man shows up and then oh yes
I don't really get Dylan's Jameson take considering that's kinda always been the character. Like Jameson's claim to fame is being hyperbolic to no end about Spidey, regardless of whether he fully believes what he's saying or not.
You can still redeem that if you write it correctly; people in real life have been redeemed from far worse
Agreed. Dylan is 🧢’ing hard. He’s whining to whine.
@@DS01 I disagree to an extent because not every portrayal of Jameson is like the "Alex Jones" type. My biggest support is Spider-Man: The Animated Series. He thinks Spider-Man is a menace because of his experience with people in masks and how they can evade accountability. But he also realizes when Spider-Man does good and can work with him when it comes down to it. Plus he's got journalistic integrity as shown in "The Alien Costume" saga. He gives a retraction about Brock lying to him that Spidey stole Prometheus X. He believes in what he publishes.
The idea that he would push BS supplements on his podcast did rub me the wrong way. Especially since I grew up with the Spider-Man: The Animated Series and the Sami Raimi Trilogy, which both Jameson's portrayals are ones about actually believing in what they publish and are willing to make corrections when they get things wrong.
Charlie cox appearance was the only moment my theater cheered. Those who had seen Netflix.
Same. Because my theater wasn’t full of folks eager to cheer for literally any low hanging fruit
I went it not really expecting much. Truthfully, I wasn't excited, you can go back to past comments I've made regarding this movie. And I have to say. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN! I did not expect to have as much fun as I did, especially since I was aware of who were going to be in this movie. I am impressed in how they handled this. I have some problems but goddamn was this fun
I was honestly waiting for Jameson to come out at the end of act two with him branding "The Sinister Six Attacks" thinking the Spiderman, Doc, Goblin, Electro, Sandman and Lizard are the Sinister Six!!!
That would've been amazing tbh
I actually thought he is going to be the sixth member in a technical way, since his antagonistic conspiracy act toward Peter is what jumpstart the movie
That actually would've been amazing
Only enjoyed act 2 and act 3. The Peter scenes are highlights of the movie to me. The movie feels more mature in the narrative and took bold chances. It did feel more like a traditional down on his luck Spider-Man story.
I had a pretty great theater experience tbh. I was able to buy tickets Thursday for Friday at 1115 am. Barely anyone was there. The only time people clapped were for Garfield and Maguire. And it was kept to a minimum. I was in the back with my friends so we were able to kind of talk amongst ourselves
Every time Willem Dafoe was on screen I had the widest grin on my face.
Mate, you need an anti-goblin serum 😂
I LOVED this movie. The ending was exactly what I wanted, he finally feels like Spider-Man, and I am psyched to see his continuing adventures. And given all of the suffering Peter endures as a character, him being erased is in keeping with his history. This movie was like Spider-Verse and One More Day -- but if the comics actually did a good job with One More Day.
So Peter is in college, no MJ, no personal ties to anyone... *sniff siff* do I smell a Black Cat... could Peter and Felicia meet in College? New love interest?
Peter in the comics met Harry and Gwen in college. I don’t get why people keep jumping to Black Cat.
I decided to see this without watching any trailers because of Dylan's recommendation and holy shit that was the best experience I've ever had watching a movie
The Spiderman no way home review I've been waiting for since watching it Thursday night.
Spider-Man No Way Home” is a distinguished and entertaining film that is easily one of the best movies of 2021. The action sequences are tense, and the cinematography is stunning-particularly when the audience sees three different Spider-Man battling together for the first time. The acting is tremendous.
Peter almost references Ben twice. And both times someone else jumps in and says it or the phrase.
Benny missed the part when the seized most of starks stuff
Toby’s arc was done, here he was just a mentor. Andrew and Tom were the ones who still had arcs to make
I mean if we're being honest, no one would say no to another Toby movie
Sandman said he is only going along with it because everyone else wants to try to get cured where he can only go with everyone else.
My theatre experience was similar to Sal’s. Phones ringing, people talking very loudly, and the person in front of me stood up 4 or 5 times and blocked the screen during crucial scenes. It’s almost like people forgot theatre etiquette during covid. Regardless, I loved the movie and can’t wait for Spider-Man’s future in the MCU
Let's go watched the movie yesterday and I gotta say they handle the expectations very well for me personally. I thought Tobey and Andrew would only show up in the last 30 minutes but they show up earlier and their banter was amazing between all three spider man. Marisa Tomei Aunt May was great and I have no issue with her saying the classic great power speech considering the quote was done by the narrator. Now if only comic aunt May can die. William Dafoe Jamie Foxx were amazing too. But my personal favorite of the film is Tom Holland's Spiderman the face the film still focus on him throughout was perfect and the way he ended in this film was a good fresh start for future movies if he wanna continues
Duuuuuuude. Shh.
@@Draliseth this is a spoiler review
I think Peter very clearly knew Ben based off context clues I mean when Aunt May said the line Peter looks like he’s heard it before
He even responds, "I know." further adding to it being likely he heard it from Ben before. Not that it wouldn't matter anyway, because someone saying the line is a fairly recent thing in the comics.
Be nice if McKenna & Sommers are kept together with confirmed director for the Fantastic 4 movie Jon Watts as the writing/directing team similar to Markus & McFeely and the Russo Brothers as they seem to work well together.
Been waiting for this Benny! Thanks so much for not making me wait all weekend!!
Describing that final swing as a "Romita drawing" is SPOT ON. Still gives me chills because THAT is the Spider-Man I have been waiting for.
Why did I have a feeling that was Rob they were talking about 🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely loved this movie! I went to see this today and I’m so glad I did. I loved the interactions between the spidermen, the moments we got in the condo with Electro, Doc Ock, Norman and Sandman/Flint Marco. I just love seeing the chemistry between the characters, and then talking about stuff really. My favorite scene, in terms of the spidermen scenes was when all 3 of them were at the Statue of Liberty and were talking about the villains they fought, and before that, how Tobey Maguire’s Spiderman can just shoot webs from his wrists unlike the other two when they rely on technology for that. I also like the line where Andrew’s Spiderman said how he always wanted brothers, and I could sense the brotherhood between him and Tobey’s spiderman. Also, Sal mentioning how Tobey’s Spiderman probably has a kid (since Tiffany told Sal how Tobey’s Spiderman saying “it’s complicated” probably means that he’s married and has a kid with MJ), I didn’t even think of that. I just assumed that their relationship was rocky and they just eventually worked things out. But now that I think about that idea being the case, I can actually see that being why Tobey’s Spiderman said “it’s complicated” when it came to him mentioning his relationship with his Mary Jane. Honestly, I’d love to think that’s the case, since he’s the oldest one of the trio, and he’s probably lived a good life to where he’s now got a family of his own (sorry for rambling about that, I just love that idea that he and Mary Jane have a kid in their universe haha). But yeah, overall, this movie was great, and I just loved the story and how it came to its conclusion here. I’m excited to see what the next spiderman movie will have, especially now that Peter is gonna be spiderman on his own this time, and that his suit looks like in the comic books, aka being a classic spiderman suit look
I was literally in the bathroom for a VERY short amount of time at the beginning and what did I miss?? Exactly what you said you could have missed by going to the bathroom. So pissed!
I loved the movie. Tom Holland's performance was amazing (pun intended).
It is hilarious that the mid-credits scene from Homecoming now means nothing. Adrian knowing Peter was Spider-Man and not revealing it to Mac Gargan is useless so yeah, there was no real plan. That’s fine with No Way Home being so good and getting Spider-Man to the best place.
I think the point of that scene was to show how Peter’s goodness could rub off on his villains. Adrian knows that Peter really does mean well especially saving his daughter and his life, so he keeps his secret because he respects Peter for what he stands for. If anything, it’s a theme that runs in this movie where Peter goes on to try and help all these villains who will kill try to kill him.
@@MikoDraw Sure, but Adrian now has no idea who Peter is which makes that scene irrelevant. He appreciates Peter for saving his life, however, Homecoming is now a completely skippable movie.
Pretty confident the multiverse was NEVER their plan for Spiderman stuff and it just happened to work out with the planned Dr Strange connection and Spider Verse being so successful.
@@DanV900 I definitely won’t skip it, it’s a great movie and a nice touch. Just because things have changed doesn’t mean you can’t go back and appreciate a great Spider-Man movie.
@@MikoDraw If we ever get Scorpion and Vulture to return, sure. Now it’s a good and entertaining movie, not a great Spider-Man movie. It’s not an essential MCU movie which is fine.
J. Jonah Jameson was redeemable in the Ultimate universe after Peter’s death where he had so much character development after that happened.
@@anthonymarciano6050 That was significantly later which Benny referenced. I know he mentioned it happened in Spencer’s run, but it was really Zdarsky’s run before that happened.
You guys didnt mention or see the ps4 easter egg! At Aunt Mays grave they put the her saying from the game “If you help someone, you help everyone”
Hayden Christensen Darth Varder as Sandman? His ultimate arch enemy is sand itself!
I definitely want to see a felica hardy but he did meet gwen in college so her introduction would be dope
I've never related to a Spider-man more than when Peter was talking to Strange and says "wait? I could just call the school?" And Strange yells at him for not thinking of asking MIT to reconsider first
Right! I was in Peter’s shoes, i didn’t know that was a thing either
Someone didn’t see Me and Earl and the Dying Girl or read the book. It’s been a thing for years with colleges where you can get your admission revoked due to poor grades too.
I saw it at 10am on Friday morning and there was some guy in the back who every time someone showed up he yelled "OH SHIT! THAT'S [character's name]! I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT'S [character's name]!" And there was a lot of clapping for no reason. But other than that, I loved the movie.
LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!! SAL IM EXPECTING BIG FEEDBACK, THIS IS UR GUY!!!
I don't mind theater crowd reactions for anime movies, like when broly came out, but not much for mcu
I live in a country where we never have extreme reactions in the cinema anyways so it’s always good
The cheering and standing up and clapping seems like it’s only an American thing
I need ned to be in multiverse of madness, considering the fact that he caught on to magic really quickly
Well he is not in it.
@@DanV900 he could be in the first 5 mins or something
@@lewisbaldwin9683 He’s not and there’s too much going on to have Ned in it.
@@DanV900 I mean the mcu can handle a lot going on. Litterally look at this movie and infinity war.
@@lewisbaldwin9683 Why waste even 5 minutes on Ned who no longer knows who Peter Parker is and didn’t exactly interact with Doctor Strange much other than his “Hmmm” after he said he opened a portal. Ned is going to MIT and it makes no sense to have him be brought in where it’s an unnecessary thing to do.
I’m 20 minutes in and nobody has freaked out over daredevils cameo. Sup wit that
I'm so glad you guys mentioned that issue with sandman. I noticed that immediately when he showed up at the big fight that he really didn't have any motivation to be there. Sure he wasn't trusting of Tom Holland after he found out it wasn't his spider man, but there wasn't anything to set him against Tom Holland. The only other issue I had with this movie was the first appearance of green goblin in the bridge scene, I feel we should have gotten at least 30 seconds of a fight with him after he showed up, especially after we got like 5 minutes of doc oc fighting. You easily could have taken 30 seconds from doc oc and giving it to Green goblin. And I feel like if we did, we would have gotten even more of a depth to him showing up to Aunt May as Norman and asking for help. Or him destroying the power ranger helmet? I just felt like he got jipped a bit, since all he got to do was drop a bomb. Even sandman and electro got more of an intro than he did. It was kinda disappointing. But all in all, amazing movie! Hands down one of my favorite MCU movies to date
I get the feeling there are some cut scenes there. Same with Doc Ock disappearing from the movie until he jumps up with Electro, and then betrays him as if that was set up?
@@PurpleColonel It was set up with the chip, but yeah, he was left behind until he came back at that moment. Electro did electrocute him where they mentioned how it could have shorted out the chip, but it didn’t.
I really loved the new suit at the end
Lmfao omg Rob WOULD be the guy to yell "don't go in that room" 💀💀💀
We thought they skipped the origin story but it turns out they just streeetched it out for 3 movies.
I definitely agree with Dillion on not liking the Andrew movies but really enjoying him in this movie and getting it! I’m 100% down for him to return in some capacity.
Lol I wanna watch this movie with Sal, what level of patreon we need for that 😂😂😂
We expected the Sinister Six, but got the Ultimate Six which had Spider-Man as part of it. Now that was by blackmail compared to Spider-Man wanting to get the villains to go with him.
Don't know if will be a popular opinion, but I feel like Peter getting a reboot is making an opening to the Fantastic Four, and the X-men, since he's a pivotal point in both arcs opening up
Having just watched the movie, I wasn't sure how to feel. They did a lot of things I wasn't sure about, but having listened to you guys, man, I think I did really enjoy this movie and I'm excited to see what they're going to do with the character(s) here on out, it's more just the initial shock of what they did and the fact that I was a little grumpy in the theater because I had chattering hogmonkeys all around me. Cheering for too loud and too long, some people talking about upcoming scenes to the left from spoilers they found online or explaining backstories, some people asking questions about what was going on in spanish on the right, like, guys, come on, if you did not see the other movies of the MCU and the other Spider-Man movies which were clearly advertised to be important, what are you doing in here?! But regardless, do none of you know how to act in a movie theater? I get that I saw the movie on opening weekend, but it's to avoid getting spoiled because people on the Internet are jerks, not also have the movie ruined in every other way. But the parts I was able to watch I enjoyed.
That said, I was disappointed that Tobey's suit didn't have the proper raised webbing while Andrew's suit looked like they pulled it right off the hanger from leftover props from TASM 2. You guys spent all that money to have Sandman be CG all the time when he didn't need to be, but Tobey can't have his suit look right? I've got a number of little gripes about this movie, like some of the metatextual commentary about backs or being lame but actually amazing. I mean I get it, but also, it was pulling me out from the movie. Also they gave Doc Ock and Electro their themes, and nobody else got theirs. There was more of a choir when all the Spider-Men were swinging, but I was hoping everyone's themes would have come back and played when things were happening. Like, we followed Andrew for a hot second and Tom's theme played. No, he needs one of the two themes he got. I know, I should be happy everyone's in the movie, but if you're going to do it, man, do it right and give me some proper themed music.
Of the three MCU Spidey movies, I think I like Homecoming the most, Mysterio is one of the best villains in a Spider-Man movie (let alone the MCU) which really elevates Far From Home, and No Way Home feels a bit odd because it's everyone else's villains and it felt like something was kind of missing without the Vulture and Mysterio, but they're not superpowered or physically augmented, so there's nothing to fix, so they wouldn't have fit the premise of the movie. Also, I don't want to lose Ned or Michelle, but this does offer an out for fulfilled contracts, and now new characters can be introduced. At least No Way Home felt like a conclusion to the trilogy, and I do appreciate that. In fact, it's the most definitive an end to a movie franchise in the MCU has been since Iron Man 3. It's still not a proper trilogy because Civil War precluded things and Infinity War and Endgame are crammed between Homecoming and Far From Home, but whatever, such an idea of a trilogy of movies being a singular story in the MCU is wishful thinking.
Tobeys webbing was raised from what I saw, but it was much more flat and closer to the suit than previously seen. The lenses are also black and white again and the logo is just barely different, so I just take it that it's a newer suit that he made in his later years as Spider-Man. I think Andrews suit hasn't changed at all because Gwen made that costume for him in a canon supplementary comic that serves as an inbetweener for TASM and TASM 2. That's just my theory tho
I think the single best experience I've ever had in a theater was the Cap Hammer moment. All at once everyone just...screamed. They didn't cheer, they just screamed, and I swear to god for a split second my hearing dipped out at the volume of it. I went to see NWH in a small town at 10pm, so there was maybe 20 other people and it was basically silent the entire time, and I felt like I missed out a bit on the experiance. Its awesome sometimes to hear everyone reacting the way I'm feeling
It was so weird, but i saw Endgame on opening night in a packed theater and people laughed but they were so quiet most of the time because they were all super into it. Strange to have such a respectful theater experience. Which is great, as much as i loved the Mjolnir moment, hearing "On your left." quietly from Falcon was probably my favorite part and i was glad we were able to hear it.
Man that interview with Tom was so weird. Like you were just in a movie where they got TOBEY MAGUIRE to show up, play a part and act like he gives a shit, you really don't think they'll find an offer you can't say no to?
Now that Matt Murdock is confirmed to be in same universe, id like to see the SIN EATER story get a movie.
Man I would love to have been in the Theater Sal was in to see the maniac’s
considering they gave Ned magic, I figured he at least will be back again down the line
You know, if you don't know that Matt Murdock is Daredevil, you really do believe that he's that good a lawyer, that brick had some malicious libel on it. Literally protects his client from some dangerous speech.
I'm certain we're going to get Ned back in the college movies as a sort of friend, or maybe even have him upset at Peter now because he's in love with Michelle. And that's how we're gonna get an original, unique MCU goblin with personal stakes.
No this ending does depreciate the value of vulture knowing Spider-Man's identity
I still think MCU Peter had an uncle Ben. The other two Peter Parkers say “uncle Ben said that” as if MCU Peter maybe knows uncle Ben but it’s something May knows from him and he never said it to Peter. Just my thought/opinion. I mean, he never says he DOESN’T have an uncle Ben.
my movie theater was actually kinda lit, we cheered but wenever we saw people ready to talk every silenced
I love referring to the MCU as "Cartoon Land" 😂😂
Act 2’s plot with wanting to have Spider-Man save the villains was revealed in the second trailer. The actual cure plot wasn’t said.
It worked for me. There was perhaps to many jokes at the start for something so serious and I did feel like we were just waiting for the villains to show up and the spell to go wrong but from the moment when Peter took the cube from Strange to the final swing I loved this film. I didn’t even mind the open wing stuff I felt like it was needed to why Peter would want to do this.
Now, this is a spoiler review which means I can talk about the returns of Toby and Andrew. What an iconic moment. Again maybe to many jokes (the most jokes Toby’s Spider-Man has ever had honestly) but them doing the science stuff together, talking about their guilt and loss or even as simple as them talking about the villains they thought and how Toby and Andrew are fascinated by the fact they are in space. By the way, one thing I wanted from this film was for each Peter to feel different and whilst the amount of jokes made that a bit hard sometimes they managed to distinguish them by revealing what they had been up to since their franchises ended, for Toby it was balancing being Spider-Man and being with Mary Jane after years of struggling or his ego getting in the way, for Andrew his anger over failing to save Gwen basically made him a bit like Ronin when you think about it as he was killing people or at least brutally injuring them. He FAILED at being Spider-Man and that’s why he wanted to not only redeem himself but also prevent Holland’s Spider-Man from doing the same.
Toby’s Spider-Man always saw the good in people dispute their anger and them being evil and that’s why he stopped Holland’s Spider-Man from killing Norman. Genuinely shocked we didn’t get a Doc Ock and Toby Spider-Man team up against Norman.
The cure plot was fun but also in a way a bit sad. It felt like they closed the door on those characters returning and that’s a shame but I do think it worked and fit with Spider-Man not wanting to send them back to die. The Holland and Defo fight scenes were incredible especially the ones in the apartment where he is just punching him with such anger and each time Goblin smiles more and more and even laughs!!
Also, Aunt May as brilliant here. The best Aunt May has been since the first TASM honestly. Her saying to Peter “with great power comes great responsibility” was a brilliant moment and was the moment that nearly made me cry. Her death was handled very well, both nailed that scene.
Now, the ending. I usually would hate this kind of ending but I’m going to say this, it’s the most Spider-Man ending to a film ever. What I mean by that is it’s him having to throw everything he loves away, to protect the people he loves and to help everyone “when you can help someone, you help everyone”. Him making everyone forget who Peter Parker is was a fantastic way to basically do a soft reboot. Him getting a crap apartment and needing to pay rent and then hearing on the radio about a crime so he can suit up and go after them was a very Tobey Maguire Spider-Man thing to do. The new costume looks fantastic by the way. Gone is the Iron Boy Jr memes, gone is this boy struggling to grow up, this film humbled Tom Holland’s Spider-Man and made him an adult and made him Spider-Man in my opinion. He say a single word when swinging, nothing. He swung alone with a new found responsibility to do the right thing.
Spider-Man 4 (or Venom 3) seems to be a crossover between the two with maybe the black suit getting to Spider-Man and him going across the multiverse to fully connect it to Tom Hardy’s Venom. This is probably how they right him out of the MCU. No one knows who Peter Parker is now. Personally, I say do it the other way around, bring Venom INTO the MCU. You want Avengers 5 to feel massive and like a big deal, a team of Doctor Strange, Thor, Spider-Man, Venom and Shang-Chi would be a fun way to do it.
Doctor strange did the spell before lol
doctor strange took spiderman to the mirror dimension and spiderman still woop that ass
I talked into this video at the one hour mark and the video has almost 700 views. Not bad Benny, Sal, and Dillon.
Curious if the snap impacted the other dimensions.
I loved this movie because it stripped out all the stuff I didn't like about MCU Spider-Man in favor of making him actually relatable again.
Yes, that’s true where he honestly wasn’t that relatable before. It left him at the perfect place.
They even killed his aunt for you for free.
@@DanV900 can’t wait to see what they do next.
The J Jonah Jameson from the comic books is none of those things. Most of the time he’s an honest newspaper runner who truly believes Spider-Man is evil. He has done evil things at times. He has regretted his point of view on Spider-Man at times before reverting back. But he’s not a ConMan or a Charlatan or a bad person in the comics, he’s just somebody who does not like vigilantes. Y’all sound like rob
Saw this wendsday it wqs so epic and when andrew and toby appear the whole cinema cheered
Man Dillon is so whiney about everything
Evidence for the existence of Uncle Ben in the MCU
-The Russos said that he did die
-Jon Watts said that Ben did exist
Captain America: Civil War - May is wearing a wedding ring around her neck, I wonder who she was married to???
Captain America: Civil War - Peter implies something bad happened because of him
Spider-Man: Homecoming - Peter says "With everything that's happened with her(May)" I wonder who he was talking about
Spider-Man: Far From Home - The suitcase Peter uses in FFH has Ben's initials on it "BFP"
"What if" name dropped Uncle Ben. They literally found an excuse to name drop Uncle Ben when Marvel finally had full creative control.
Spider-Man: No Way Home - Peter says "Yeah I know" when May drops the responsibility line
Spider-Man: No Way Home - Peter doesn't ask who Uncle Ben is even when Andrew and Tobey are speaking of him in a "of course you have an Uncle Ben" kinda way.
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Evidence for the contrary
-Jon Watts went back and said that we don't know whether or not he existed
The fact he hasn't been mentioned in the films at all until NWH
The fact May doesn't mention him as she's dying
The fact Peter doesn't mention Uncle Ben when Andrew and Tobey do
The fact that Ben's grave wasn't present at May's gravesite
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Miss ya Benny! Rest easy brother 💔
I kinda wished they referenced Andrew Garfield's sequel movies. "Oh you fought aliens? I fought five clones and a severed head"
The cheering makes the movie better in some ways to me. It means your among you fellow fans and your all equally hyped for it. Like what are you gonna complain that you can't hear music at a live concert with the cheers. Sometimes you just can't hold it in and need to shout your cheers. Normally for me I don't really do it that loud more so under my breath with like a trucker arm pull. But even this movie had me cheering. I just couldn't hold it in
This movie seems like it truly was made FOR the fans. Not for the studio to make money. This seems to be what my childhood was building to growing up with Tobey movies. I cried for damn near 30 minutes straight at the sad scene then tears of joy when the spider-men came in
Right now it’s the best spider-man movie of all time to me and one of my favorite movies I’ve ever seen
That suit at the end was fire
I hate the cheering but it was whatever for this movie since we all knew what was coming. Someone actually yelled “THROW DIRT IN HIS EYE”
Some said the 3 movies is his origin
So is the Nick Fury that spider-man was talking to in far from Home a Skrull? in the movie they said nick fury has been off world for a year.
Yup. Talos took his place on earth. Fury has been off world, running a version of S.W.O.R.D. for years.
Yes, as revealed in the post-credits scene. Fury gets a call from Talos who is with his wife playing Maria Hill.
Lizard was best character. Hands down all Peters problems would’ve been fixed if he became a lizard.
The movie was fun, but imo it’s not the best Spider-Man movie. The MCU has messed up Spider-Man too much. Completely butchered his origin, Iron Man is his mentor, and the fact they changed all of the Spider-Man’s supporting characters. They had a chance to fix this with the multiverse, but they ended up making it worse. Now Peter knows all of his Rogue’s gallery. I don’t understand the reason for Disney to diverge so much from the source material.
I went to the opening night of 89 batman and it was chaos. It was the first and only time I've ever gone to the opening of a film.
I’m listening to the theater experiences section and I gotta say seeing this movie on Christmas Eve when it was still pretty full but me and my friend had a few seats to ourselves was the way to go. I love seeing people get hyped but I probably would’ve just left and waited another week if I had to deal with people getting up and howling
I would watch the fuck out of Sal's J Jonah Jameson film. Pay the man Sony
Hearing that Andrew started killing people after gwen died really makes the ending of TASM 2 a lot more morbid when you think of what likely happened to Rhino.
He said he stopped pulling punches and became rageful. He didn’t say that he started killing people. There is a big difference there where you are assuming he was killing people.
@@DanV900 We’re talking about freaking Spider-Man not pulling his punches. The dude who can throw cars casually. It’s not Batman where if he lets loose criminal go into the ICU
What do you think that meant. He doesn’t have to spell it out for you to get it. You can tell he felt disgusted by it with immense regret. And in the context of Tom wanted to kill GG and telling them that this interpretation of his words make more sense. Cause Andrews been down that road.
@@youfirst6611 He clearly was brutal and was putting people in the hospital, but you are the one who wants to believe that he was killing people. You ask Andrew Garfield about that and I guarantee he says that his version wasn’t killing people even after becoming rageful. Read Back in Black for Christ’s sake as far as a brutal version of Spider-Man. You are very wrong here.
@@DanV900 Dude back in black isn’t Garfield’s continuity Stop acting as if the comics dictate the characters hardline characterization/trajectory in these movies. Cause when has a movie ever stuck to the comics 1 to 1.
Garfield can say whatever he wants but he ain’t write the dialogue. His words hold no weights cause he ain’t the writer. He simply acts out what he’s given.
The fact that lizard is here when the narrative of the film is that these villans die fighting Spider-Man. Since he didn’t die in TASM 1(since we see him in the post credit scene of TASM 1) logically it means they had a rematch after the the Events of TASM 2. Meaning he was killed post Gwen’s death. Which lines up with Andrews dialogue in the film about not holding back.
Your calling me wrong when the signs are all there. Go rewatch the movie dude.
@@youfirst6611 You are confusing Doctor Strange’s lines from the trailer with the movie which Benny did here too. In the trailer, Strange says the villains’ fates are to die fighting Spider-Man. In the movie, he has no idea what their fates are and just wants to get them back to their own universes where after Peter tells him that some of them die, he responds by saying, “If they die, they die.” He then says their sacrifices are necessary. You are clearly the one who needs to rewatch the movie. The Doctor Strange dialogue is NOT the same since it was for marketing purposes. Lizard was cured to end ASM 1 and Garfield references doing that before while in the lab coat. He didn’t mention a rematch and there never was a rematch. Sandman also wasn’t killed in Spider-Man 3. You would have to assume that Tobey was involved in his death too later which is laughable. Tobey forgives Sandman who leaves to end Spider-Man 3. They didn’t fight again.
Andrew Garfield’s dialogue says he became rageful and no longer pulled his punches where he was bitter and he doesn’t want Holland’s version to end up like him. That doesn’t mean that he started killing people. He just didn’t want Holland to be brutal like he was. He said he fought the Rhino by the way, not that he killed the Rhino which is the end of ASM 2. Tobey is the one to stop Tom Holland from killing Norman which you would have seen. He referenced being involved in killing the man that he thought killed Uncle Ben from Spider-Man 1 which is why he stops Tom Holland. Tobey is the one who admits to being involved in a death where it didn’t make things better. That’s why Back in Black is relevant in regards to Garfield with a brutal Spider-Man who doesn’t kill and even the Public Scrutiny arc from Ultimate Spider-Man where Spider-Man brutalizes the imposter. That imposter was just a teenage boy. Once again, watch the movie and don’t fall for the trailer’s dialogue for Doctor Strange. There is a HUGE difference. Wong says not to cast the spell in the trailer and in the movie says to leave him out of this when Strange mentions doing it. Those are not the same at all.
Them being cured and sent back just creates a new timeline like we see in Loki.
J. J. J. Is the sixth member
Been waiting for this all day i saw this last night!
I'm looking forward to the next trilogy, so many possibilities.
I had yelling, bad seating, my neck hurt because I was on the end. Someone had their baby crying. And I essentially had to tell somebody to stop standing in front of my seat at the start of the movie. Totally worth it to avoid the spoilers though. And Benny I got to say the worst thing for me is people talking during the movie. It’s not the cheering during the exciting parts, a lot of us love that.it’s cellphones and chit chat that ruins movies
I focused on the lizard too😂😂😂