Love your videos. Always informational with explanations of signals etc. I love the way Melbourne is putting railways above or under, sure takes away the delays with traffic and road crossings and thoroughly opens up the rail corridor. Thank you so much for your efforts. Whenever I see your name as creator I always end up glued to the screen. Great trips. Well done.
Thanks for your kind words! Maybe you have not seen some of these before. Check anything to do with the Dandenong line and in some you will see views with the viaducts being built. Maybe something to fill in a bit of time if you are locked down.
The sound of a Comeng is burned in my brain at this point, they've been around for so long. I hear we could be retiring them in the coming years, which makes sense but it is always a little bit of history disappearing. I used to like the look of a Hitachi train pulling into the station. They weren't that nice to travel on on a 40 degree day, but there was something about them
Yes, the Comeng trains are the last in Melbourne where you can hear the sounds of the gears, unlike the meaningless electronic warbling of new trains. Similarly Sydney’s V set double deck interurbans are in the same category, also Brisbane‘s original EMU trains. The whole lot are being phased out gradually as newer trains are being built. Such a pity. I am preparing a before and after side by side video of the Upfield l line at present and will make sure that if we are riding a Comeng on either of those time periods, that is the sound I will use in the video. I never had any particular liking for the Hitachi Trains, they just seem like tin boxes on wheels.
Really enjoyed cruising along the line. Richmond Stn looks almost pretty that time of the morning. And to paraphrase a certain movie: "I love the sound of a Comeng in the morning. Thanks!
Thanks for a great ride. I read below a bit and got some of my questions answered. When were the new viaducts built? With my limited knowledge of Melbourne, I think new stations were added in between old ones like for example Oakleigh if I am right? I, too appreciate all the info and stuff you add.
😊👍 The level crossing removal process, from memory, started around 2014, and it’s around that time that my driver recognised the potential in creating before, during, and after scenes of the various work sites.
Yes, it was a much faster service than all stations. Pity the poor people all stops from Packenham to town. Unfortunately Melbourne does not know what express services are, which are normal at all times on some journeys in Sydney. As for lights on at the G, you’ll have to ask them as I would not have the slightest idea.
It sounded good to me too until I realised it was only around 60km/h, not startling for a run with no stops. I also have a normal service run and it goes for about 70 minutes, a tedious slow all stations run.
@@tressteleg1 60km/h was the average speed. It would have been going a lot faster than that to make up for the slow bits, such as the 40km/h at Caulfield.
That proves the point - there are too many slow locations. As for Caulfield, there is a sign telling drivers there is a 25 km speed limit over the pedestrian subway. If it is falling apart, time to fix it up. If trains are too noisy, put rubber between the rail and the sleepers. With the track being almost straight through here, the speed limit should be much closer to 60 km/h. The crawl into Dandenong seems excessively slow for much too great a distance. It all adds up.
I did a number of videos showing Skyrail construction. You will find them here. Melbourne - Driver's View Trains ruclips.net/p/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH
Great video. Loved it. Thing Is rides SHOULD be that quick. Well on a well run system. It should be run as 3 lines. 1: Stopping all stations to Dandenong. 2 & 3: Flinders St - Caulfield - Dandenong - all stations to Pakenham or Cranbourne. The should be more overtaking lines (another at Hughedale would help). The line is getting too long not to do this.
I largely agree with that. My preference for stopping patterns would be one service all stations to some midpoint station with some importance. I don’t know the area well enough to nominate such a station. Then there should be another service stopping at Richmond, S. Yarra, then the terminus of the short working train, then all stations to Dandenong and Pakenham or Cranbourne from there. Having trains 10 minutes apart and every one of them stopping at every station is ludicrous.
@@tressteleg1 As you may know, but for @AndyRob, the Lilydale/Belgrave lines do this well. In peak hour they run expresses basically between Box Hill (roughly half way out) and the city (3 tracks) in the centre track with stoppers in parallel on the other track. The 3rd track runs stoppers in the other direction. Then stop all stations Box Hill to the end of the line.
Yes in general terms I was aware of this. Outside of peak hours, Melbourne has precious little express suburban service. Maybe Werribee along the main line would be amongst the best.
Except for maybe some shunting yards, signals are set by a person in a Signal Box. In years gone by, there were hundreds of these in each state. Now with a lot more points moved by electric motors and with the help of computers etc, just a few signal boxes can control a whole state. The driver just has to keep an eye on signals to make sure the points will send the train on the correct line.
Lucky guess! While the equipment generally is owned or financed by the state government, all public transport runs to timetables determined by the government. It is a mix of suburban electric trains which you can see here, a tramway network which is said to be the worlds largest, with gaps in the Tramway network being served by buses operated by a number of independent contractors. The train we are riding was built by Commonwealth engineering in Dandenong Melbourne and dates from the 1980s approximately. More recently Alstom has provided the X’Trapolis trains, and Siemens has also provided electric trains. Trams were also built by Comeng, Allston, and Siemens. The Commonwealth engineering factory was later taken over by Bombardier but is now owned by Alstom. Railway gauge is 5‘3“, tramway is Standard gauge.
Great video Loved it Thank you Did you know that the stations between Caulfield and Richmond start with M.A.T.H.S There you are theres your useless bit of information for the day.
Sadly Comengs will be gone soon ... I must visit Melbourne again in the next few years so I can have a last ride on one of them. Hopefully this will be possible from 2022 on as Covid restrictions ease, international border reopens and Latam/Qantas flights to South America resume. Another great video, tks!
@@tressteleg1 so sad! Here in Brazil we are still having tough times with Covid but things are starting to get better. I personally got my first jab a few weeks ago, Delta variant is not making much of a harm and we'll get third shots from September.
Actually life in most states is not too far from normal with no Covid loose in the community. However it’s terrible in New South Wales and slipping out of control in Victoria at the moment. Vaccination rates are not as high as they could be due to a shortage of imported vaccines. I’m in Queensland.
Enjoying from Vancouver @ 2:30 AM. Was Down Under in 1987 & traveled all over by train for entire month of May.Been a 'train-a-holic' since I rode a train by myself in 1955. Cheers.
It was probably an Empty Cars run. Sometimes a train required to start service at a terminus on the system is located somewhere else. Sometimes that happens every day, sometimes trackwork puts trains in the wrong places for their next service.
Whistles here are mostly only a formality. Thank goodness we don’t have the ridiculously long level crossing whistle code which the USA has! If anyone doesn’t hear a single toot of a train whistle, too bad! 😄
Sorry to hear that. When I was a Melbourne tram driver, I only injured one person who did something foolish near the back of the tram which I could not see, but some of my workmates were not so lucky. Some remained drivers, some did other work after that.
Yes, different people take it differently. Driving trams was tricky as people would wander all over the street at times. Nobody should be walking on a train track. You stay safe too. All good where I am.
I can’t be sure now, but the train must have been a Comeng, the last trains with ‘traditional’ Melbourne whistles. No doubt anyone living near a rail line would be quite used to their sound.
@@tressteleg1 I'm from Queensland, the trains here are quiet good and fast, hopefully I will get to Melbourne one day and check out the transport system, it's looks really good.🌟🌟
Thanks M8, that was fantastic. Something special about that time of the morning!
Few see lines at this time of day, but of course it would look the same in the evening, generally with more road and other train traffic visible.
Nice ride. Love when you can go non-stop. Nice job protecting your source’s reflection in the windscreen.
They are much easier to edit when non-stop also, but getting rid of the reflections was an ordeal!
Love all the elimination of level crossings which reduces traffic delays. Truly an express ride!!
Thank you for sharing.😀
Love your videos. Always informational with explanations of signals etc. I love the way Melbourne is putting railways above or under, sure takes away the delays with traffic and road crossings and thoroughly opens up the rail corridor. Thank you so much for your efforts. Whenever I see your name as creator I always end up glued to the screen. Great trips. Well done.
Thanks for your kind words! Maybe you have not seen some of these before. Check anything to do with the Dandenong line and in some you will see views with the viaducts being built. Maybe something to fill in a bit of time if you are locked down.
Love the night time rides, this sounds like a Comeng, thanks for the vid tressteleg 1.
And I enjoy editing them.
Very nice.from Japan.
I’m very pleased that you enjoyed it. 👍😄
The sound of a Comeng is burned in my brain at this point, they've been around for so long. I hear we could be retiring them in the coming years, which makes sense but it is always a little bit of history disappearing. I used to like the look of a Hitachi train pulling into the station. They weren't that nice to travel on on a 40 degree day, but there was something about them
Yes, the Comeng trains are the last in Melbourne where you can hear the sounds of the gears, unlike the meaningless electronic warbling of new trains. Similarly Sydney’s V set double deck interurbans are in the same category, also Brisbane‘s original EMU trains. The whole lot are being phased out gradually as newer trains are being built. Such a pity. I am preparing a before and after side by side video of the Upfield l line at present and will make sure that if we are riding a Comeng on either of those time periods, that is the sound I will use in the video. I never had any particular liking for the Hitachi Trains, they just seem like tin boxes on wheels.
Gee, Melbourne has changed a lot since I was last there in 2004.
All cities change, some for the better, some for the worse 😊
Very Nice , keep it up, love 💕 frm india
Thanks 👍😊
Really enjoyed cruising along the line. Richmond Stn looks almost pretty that time of the morning. And to paraphrase a certain movie: "I love the sound of a Comeng in the morning. Thanks!
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Thanks for a great ride. I read below a bit and got some of my questions answered. When were the new viaducts built? With my limited knowledge of Melbourne, I think new stations were added in between old ones like for example Oakleigh if I am right? I, too appreciate all the info and stuff you add.
😊👍 The level crossing removal process, from memory, started around 2014, and it’s around that time that my driver recognised the potential in creating before, during, and after scenes of the various work sites.
After years of catching the 5:22 stopping all stations, this sort of commute was only in my dreams
Yes, it was a much faster service than all stations. Pity the poor people all stops from Packenham to town. Unfortunately Melbourne does not know what express services are, which are normal at all times on some journeys in Sydney.
As for lights on at the G, you’ll have to ask them as I would not have the slightest idea.
Amazing video
Yes, a bit different from what often appears on RUclips.
@@tressteleg1 true true
Do you have videos of Pakenham East Depot?
I doubt it but if I do I will add it to part 2 whenever I do that.
Was this pre-dawn or late-night? Only ask because saw lysaughts steel train at South Yarra at 5:37 - this usually is inbound in evening.
Pre-dawn. Left Flinders Street at about 0439hrs.
Thanks. At the start of the video I state when it occurred. Also a number of station clocks tell us the time.
A great video😊👍
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And then some people say Melbourne's public transport was slow😉 31 Kilometers in about a half a hour is great😂 Nice Video
It sounded good to me too until I realised it was only around 60km/h, not startling for a run with no stops. I also have a normal service run and it goes for about 70 minutes, a tedious slow all stations run.
@@tressteleg1 60km/h was the average speed. It would have been going a lot faster than that to make up for the slow bits, such as the 40km/h at Caulfield.
That proves the point - there are too many slow locations. As for Caulfield, there is a sign telling drivers there is a 25 km speed limit over the pedestrian subway. If it is falling apart, time to fix it up. If trains are too noisy, put rubber between the rail and the sleepers. With the track being almost straight through here, the speed limit should be much closer to 60 km/h. The crawl into Dandenong seems excessively slow for much too great a distance. It all adds up.
WOW that new raised link is AMAZING
I did a number of videos showing Skyrail construction. You will find them here.
Melbourne - Driver's View Trains
ruclips.net/p/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH
@@tressteleg1 tremendous! thank you
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Such a great Video! Now, i'm currently working with Metro Tunnel and usually wondering how the real site is. Thank you guy!
Good to hear from you. If you think you can get anything of interest on this project, I would like to hear from you 😊
Lovely view from the cabin
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what time did you film this video great job
awesome
I think the driver make it a few years ago. If available, I put the year at the start.
Great video. Loved it. Thing Is rides SHOULD be that quick. Well on a well run system. It should be run as 3 lines. 1: Stopping all stations to Dandenong. 2 & 3: Flinders St - Caulfield - Dandenong - all stations to Pakenham or Cranbourne. The should be more overtaking lines (another at Hughedale would help). The line is getting too long not to do this.
I largely agree with that. My preference for stopping patterns would be one service all stations to some midpoint station with some importance. I don’t know the area well enough to nominate such a station. Then there should be another service stopping at Richmond, S. Yarra, then the terminus of the short working train, then all stations to Dandenong and Pakenham or Cranbourne from there. Having trains 10 minutes apart and every one of them stopping at every station is ludicrous.
@@tressteleg1 As you may know, but for @AndyRob, the Lilydale/Belgrave lines do this well. In peak hour they run expresses basically between Box Hill (roughly half way out) and the city (3 tracks) in the centre track with stoppers in parallel on the other track. The 3rd track runs stoppers in the other direction. Then stop all stations Box Hill to the end of the line.
Yes in general terms I was aware of this. Outside of peak hours, Melbourne has precious little express suburban service. Maybe Werribee along the main line would be amongst the best.
How do the points work? Do they set automatically?
Except for maybe some shunting yards, signals are set by a person in a Signal Box. In years gone by, there were hundreds of these in each state. Now with a lot more points moved by electric motors and with the help of computers etc, just a few signal boxes can control a whole state. The driver just has to keep an eye on signals to make sure the points will send the train on the correct line.
Is this Melbourne, Australia? And what kind of transport system and rolling stock is it?
Lucky guess! While the equipment generally is owned or financed by the state government, all public transport runs to timetables determined by the government. It is a mix of suburban electric trains which you can see here, a tramway network which is said to be the worlds largest, with gaps in the Tramway network being served by buses operated by a number of independent contractors.
The train we are riding was built by Commonwealth engineering in Dandenong Melbourne and dates from the 1980s approximately. More recently Alstom has provided the X’Trapolis trains, and Siemens has also provided electric trains.
Trams were also built by Comeng, Allston, and Siemens.
The Commonwealth engineering factory was later taken over by Bombardier but is now owned by Alstom. Railway gauge is 5‘3“, tramway is Standard gauge.
The old rail yard near platform 1 at Dandenong is not there now, don’t know what will be there.
I dare say it will be cleaned up sooner or later.
Great video Loved it Thank you Did you know that the stations between Caulfield and Richmond start with M.A.T.H.S There you are theres your useless bit of information for the day.
The young of today will only understand CALCULATOR 😊😄😆
Nice trip.
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I can't help noticing that the lunar lights at Caulfield have been replaced with theater boxes!!!
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Sadly Comengs will be gone soon ... I must visit Melbourne again in the next few years so I can have a last ride on one of them. Hopefully this will be possible from 2022 on as Covid restrictions ease, international border reopens and Latam/Qantas flights to South America resume. Another great video, tks!
Hopefully things will be better next year. At the moment, almost nobody can come here from overseas. Certainly not tourists.
@@tressteleg1 so sad! Here in Brazil we are still having tough times with Covid but things are starting to get better. I personally got my first jab a few weeks ago, Delta variant is not making much of a harm and we'll get third shots from September.
Actually life in most states is not too far from normal with no Covid loose in the community. However it’s terrible in New South Wales and slipping out of control in Victoria at the moment. Vaccination rates are not as high as they could be due to a shortage of imported vaccines. I’m in Queensland.
Enjoying from Vancouver @ 2:30 AM. Was Down Under in 1987 & traveled all over by train for entire month of May.Been a 'train-a-holic' since I rode a train by myself in 1955. Cheers.
Insomnia?? 😊. When Covid problems normalise, sounds like it’s time for a return visit!
Not in service expressing Caulfield, Clayton, Carnegie, Morrabeena, Westall and expressing all stations. WHY?!
It was probably an Empty Cars run. Sometimes a train required to start service at a terminus on the system is located somewhere else. Sometimes that happens every day, sometimes trackwork puts trains in the wrong places for their next service.
Caulfield time was 4:52 am and 25 second out of the city
Yes they often have to start early. Whether this was a routine early morning run or an oddity following trackwork or something, I don’t know.
I'm impressed with how much of this line is new, eliminating many level crossings.
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this train left at 4.30 am that is way too early
Well, somebody has to get all the trains in place for the peak hour to work 😊. Luckily not you or me!
Why is the G lit up like that, waste of power
Start at 4:35am city centre
nice video im ex fright driver as per usual rvb horn sound not very good needed nathan 3 chime from america cheers
Whistles here are mostly only a formality. Thank goodness we don’t have the ridiculously long level crossing whistle code which the USA has! If anyone doesn’t hear a single toot of a train whistle, too bad! 😄
@@tressteleg1 i has too fatal over my career both teenager with headphone
Sorry to hear that. When I was a Melbourne tram driver, I only injured one person who did something foolish near the back of the tram which I could not see, but some of my workmates were not so lucky. Some remained drivers, some did other work after that.
@@tressteleg1 i took it well unfortunate my mate who we would always crew together took himself from the stress stay safe mate
Yes, different people take it differently. Driving trams was tricky as people would wander all over the street at times. Nobody should be walking on a train track.
You stay safe too. All good where I am.
I like the sound of the train horn, sounds like elephant trumpeting. Scare the shit out of me that hour of the morning💩💩🚝🚝🚝🚄🚄🚄🚂🚂
I can’t be sure now, but the train must have been a Comeng, the last trains with ‘traditional’ Melbourne whistles. No doubt anyone living near a rail line would be quite used to their sound.
@@tressteleg1 The good old trains seem smooth
Probably. The XTraps don’t even have air suspension so the ride on some of Melbourne’s indifferent track is not the best.
@@tressteleg1 I'm from Queensland, the trains here are quiet good and fast, hopefully I will get to Melbourne one day and check out the transport system, it's looks really good.🌟🌟
Well I’m on the Gold Coast and go south each year. If you don’t expect too much from Melbourne you won’t be too disappointed 😄