The best retro since the 99s shapewise. But still the proportions of the ogs are unmatched. Retros today looks more like plastic toy figures..stiff and wonky in some places. Ogs were really created after the human foot, soft and flexible with intentions of goin straight to feet then court 💥
Exactly, I agree with your words. Shape and cut is unmatched to the OG. Definitely wanted to dig deep, way too many people saying they have the OG shape. Improved yes but so much incorrect
The review that matters. Love my pair. Amazing shape. My dad played ball in these back in 1989 and would always talk about them. Got him a pair too. Glad these were really easy to get.
Such a dramatic front & back slant for the OG. We appreciate your attention to details with this comparison. Retro was a good release but you clearly showed how great OG’s will forever be. 🫡
Thanks man, yeah between shape and construction they haven't come close on the 4s. These are improved but still major differences. Always top priority though to own the originals #likemike wore
Most likely, more improvements to do, hopefully they keep specs and improve. Seen enough releases where they fix one thing then mess up 2 they previously had correct. That really drives me crazy
Got 2 pairs and I can say that there are some shape differences one of my pairs has a short stubby toe box like the fire reds and my other pair has a longer sleek toe box similar to the 89s
Good stuff man. my first ever pair of Jordans was the Military Blues back in junior high. I bought a pair in '06. They were meh. Tought a pair in '12. They were worse. HAD to buy the new ones. so far, I think they are pretty decent. the only thing (and I know all sneaker heads know this). They're lacking in the comfort department for the bottom of your feet. The OGs...most certainly WERE comfy. I replaced the insoles and boom, instantly more comfortable. Dig your content man. I'd love to see Nike re-release the Air Flight 89 or 90 high again or the Air Force 5 mid...loved those as well.
@GeoffSweet thanks for watching! Yeah, I agree on comfort with all my jordans I pretty much put in better insoles. They don't make them like they used to from materials to build and comfort. At least some improvement on this release, still far off the OG
@@ogorbust1697 agreed, but I'm glad to see Nike making st least an attempt to re-create their old magic. Now, that being said, I have their new Jordan 38...and can tell you, they are fantastically comfortable. Completely stock.
Great review!! 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽 As a person who remembers circling the mall and stopping at footlocker(when the had the basketball backboard and hoop) looking at the 4’s EACH time we passed (atleast 10x) I sincerely appreciate your reviews. In my opinion your reviews are one of if not THE best on RUclips.
@@ogorbust1697 I think they both are in their own right. If I’m judging the 2024 by 89 standards then clearly it’s the OG , everytime. If judging by having to pass 06 & 2012 then I couldn’t be happier with these. What I will say for sure. Is this retro fight a lot of unnecessary negative hyperbole.
@veryfewrealleft1405 the '24 is definitely the best retro to date, always room for improvement. Especially when JB is charging $235 for these, they should've at least had better leather.
@@ogorbust1697 I couldn’t agree more about the price , and I’m gonna tell you the truth, bro if I didn’t live in Pennsylvania where there’s no tax, I’m not sure I would be willing to pay that 235 that’s just a little too steep when you start breaking 230 to 25 even. The fire Reds were $200 in 2020 & I thought 190/200 OG was still high but it was relatively fair in comparison to you know if you think of the 2016 true blue 3s were 225 the 2015 maroon six was 220. They sat right ?!? Nike was forced to lower the price. We need to see that again we all understand the concept of inflation, but we also gotta understand the concept of recession.
@veryfewrealleft1405 that's exactly it.. the prices keep going up but it's not justified for materials used. There's no way I'd double up, think about it.. almost $500 for two pairs?! It's crazy, for that amount they better be even better shape and high quality leather.
I'm happy with my pair, but what bugs me is Nike talking about how close to the OG these are when they clearly are not. The whole rake of the shoe is different, just to name one glaring difference.
Exactly!! So many people too thinking they are OG shape finally, well off to be honest and that's why I dive into these comparisons as best I can to show the truth.
Man they looks so much better then before but why won't Nike/JB just fix them!? It's so weird. Awesome video brother! Toe looks pretty good but I wish they'd fix that lower but vamp where the netting sits on top of the foot. That looks good.
@@ogorbust1697 way more tweaks from those side shots Jeez man that slope is way off. Idk how people on IG show their OG's that look similar to these. Are the OG militarys just way worse shaped then the Other OG's?
@@ninofarhan9807 I actually had bought the Developer Boring replica Jordan 1s and found them to be really uncomfortable. I think they mixed up the left and right sole so it feels like I have them on backwards when I don't. Anyway the insoles with those are very good and I used them.
Truly wish they would go to the higher cut for the back Bcs I love that it’s more slick more flush and I love that even on the 3s look amazing Bcs it’s not going to far with the back tab now for some reason Nike can’t get it right i hope soon we can get the true version
Finally! I've been waiting for you to do a review on these, and wanted your thoughts. I was hoping you had the original Military Blue 4s. Heres what I dont like: Three different shades of blue (heel tabs, midsole and eyelets) The shade of vlue is up for debate, as Ive seen old pictures going both ways. The off white blue-ish or gray uppers. The shade of gray on the wing. At this point theyr could of just called them reimagined. Also, the price sucks, and the leather quality is just meh. Just my .02 cents. Id be happy to hear more of your thoughts..
Thanks man, yeah I wish I did have the og.. maybe one day. At least a cut and shape reference with fire red most importantly in the same size. I think the blue looks pretty close on midsole, again different lighting on photo references etc could change. That's why in hand is always the best. Solid retro though, had to get a pair but I agree on leather and price point.. had to mention in video too kinda ridiculous lol
I'm not sure why JB insists on having a lower cut in the back with a higher back tab. Those back tabs rub against my Achilles when I don't wear high(er) socks and it's quite bothersome. That's my biggest gripe with these retro's!
After seeing these compared to the OG, the shape is definitely improved but not the exact “OG cut.” Still love my pair nonetheless because it’s my favorite color way behind the White Cement, now we need Nike to work on the 5’s and 6’s shape. 5’s need a complete overhaul 😅 Love your in depth analysis man 🔥
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful! 5s have really fallen off og shape recently. Not sure what's going on over there but hopefully they do justice to the black metallic next year.
These videos make me sooo mad!!! Why can’t Nike get the toe box right??? J’s used to be a skinnier shoe now they fat like boots. Btw thank you for this detailed video! Love your channel!
Im not trying to upset you, just clarifying what exactly we get vs the originals lol.. so many said "og cut" as we know that's not true. Thanks for tuning in!
7:02 The wings are angled too far forward. I think that's what causes all the problems with the shape, forces the side netting to be too small, the lace holes start more forward and end too high, which causes that hump on the front plastic tabs. Everything mid-foot and forward is all crammed. OGs look sleek. Retros still look like boats. Real shame.
Damn, didn’t notice that until you mentioned it. That’s what happens when they tweak the shoe instead of doing a full recraft. It’s so many things wrong with the current retro, but some will claim they are the closest to the 1989 originals. I strongly disagree as the 1999 retros are still the closest.
Excellent comparison as always, brotha! My pair will be here any minute once the mail man drives up. Unfortunately, some LeChoke fan reported me for calling Bron a bitch, and reported me. They deleted my Instagram account lol
Shape wise i like the 2024 military blues its slope goes all the way down at that slant. The OGs slope as well but not how the retro is. Ppl just got this belief that everything OG is great and its not. I never liked the extra long netting going down to the toebox, the big ass mesh panel where the material bends and looks wiggly and loose the retros look better. The retros looks more plush on the netting making it look more intact. The 2012 and 2024 were good solid built military 4s when they released but i remembered the 2012s getting so much hate and ppl trashing it talking bout the quality when they had some of the softest and plush materials on it. Also and im from that era but OGs could use some redefining on some of these shapes, all the OG builds arent perfect.
no one buying these, most of the "reviewers are tring to fool people into thinking these are hard to get. and anyone under 25 is calling these the dad shoe colorway. hold off on buying these if you really like these, cuz they'll be at leat half off by july
Most underrated sneaker channel. You’re the only one consistently comparing OG to retros on video
Thanks for the kind words, I do enjoy this! I appreciate you watching.
The best retro since the 99s shapewise. But still the proportions of the ogs are unmatched. Retros today looks more like plastic toy figures..stiff and wonky in some places. Ogs were really created after the human foot, soft and flexible with intentions of goin straight to feet then court 💥
Exactly, I agree with your words. Shape and cut is unmatched to the OG. Definitely wanted to dig deep, way too many people saying they have the OG shape. Improved yes but so much incorrect
The review that matters. Love my pair. Amazing shape. My dad played ball in these back in 1989 and would always talk about them. Got him a pair too. Glad these were really easy to get.
That's very cool, first Jordan's I wanted when I was 9! Thanks for watching!
@@ogorbust1697Not a problem. Keep the content coming.
Such a dramatic front & back slant for the OG. We appreciate your attention to details with this comparison. Retro was a good release but you clearly showed how great OG’s will forever be. 🫡
Thanks man, yeah between shape and construction they haven't come close on the 4s. These are improved but still major differences. Always top priority though to own the originals #likemike wore
100%.
Probably the best retro ever.
Real close
Most likely, more improvements to do, hopefully they keep specs and improve. Seen enough releases where they fix one thing then mess up 2 they previously had correct. That really drives me crazy
Amazing review the best retro out close as we can get in this era
Thanks man, yeah definitely the best we've seen!
Got 2 pairs and I can say that there are some shape differences one of my pairs has a short stubby toe box like the fire reds and my other pair has a longer sleek toe box similar to the 89s
Best Jordan sneaker reviewer on utube my opinion 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Thanks man, I appreciate it! 🙌🏻
Good stuff man. my first ever pair of Jordans was the Military Blues back in junior high. I bought a pair in '06. They were meh. Tought a pair in '12. They were worse. HAD to buy the new ones. so far, I think they are pretty decent. the only thing (and I know all sneaker heads know this). They're lacking in the comfort department for the bottom of your feet. The OGs...most certainly WERE comfy. I replaced the insoles and boom, instantly more comfortable. Dig your content man. I'd love to see Nike re-release the Air Flight 89 or 90 high again or the Air Force 5 mid...loved those as well.
@GeoffSweet thanks for watching! Yeah, I agree on comfort with all my jordans I pretty much put in better insoles. They don't make them like they used to from materials to build and comfort. At least some improvement on this release, still far off the OG
@@ogorbust1697 agreed, but I'm glad to see Nike making st least an attempt to re-create their old magic. Now, that being said, I have their new Jordan 38...and can tell you, they are fantastically comfortable. Completely stock.
Great review!! 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽 As a person who remembers circling the mall and stopping at footlocker(when the had the basketball backboard and hoop) looking at the 4’s EACH time we passed (atleast 10x) I sincerely appreciate your reviews. In my opinion your reviews are one of if not THE best on RUclips.
Thanks man, I appreciate you tuning in.. always keep it real 💯
I always look forward to Jumpman Bostic and your reviews. Best shoe tubers on the net.
Thanks man, he's a cool dude too!
Was waiting on this one. Just started, thanks for making these!
My pleasure, as always love to give a reason to break out some originals to share with the community and capture in 4k 😆
I was waiting for this comparison to drop 😅 thank you!
Haha my pleasure, hope it satisfies!
Woo been waiting for this one
Thanks man 👊🏻👊🏻😎
subbed! hope u could do J11 playoff retro vs OG comparison coz i feel the cut on retros are shorter
Thanks man, I sold off retro 11s I had and reglued ogs. Future releases I may grab a pair to compare etc.
Amazing review💙
Thanks, I appreciate it!
I always wonder if the retros can fit in the OG box
Crazy comparison man. It’s a good retro at the end of the day, very solid
Thanks man, happy with them. Hopefully more improvements in the future!
@@ogorbust1697 yeah hopefully… I’ll start to make the toe area more pointed. It’s a general issue from 1 to 5’s
Masterpieces imo
The OGs definitely masterpiece, that's a strong word lol.. solid retro but many differences.
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I think they both are in their own right. If I’m judging the 2024 by 89 standards then clearly it’s the OG , everytime.
If judging by having to pass 06 & 2012 then I couldn’t be happier with these.
What I will say for sure. Is this retro fight a lot of unnecessary negative hyperbole.
@veryfewrealleft1405 the '24 is definitely the best retro to date, always room for improvement. Especially when JB is charging $235 for these, they should've at least had better leather.
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I couldn’t agree more about the price , and I’m gonna tell you the truth, bro if I didn’t live in Pennsylvania where there’s no tax, I’m not sure I would be willing to pay that 235 that’s just a little too steep when you start breaking 230 to 25 even.
The fire Reds were $200 in 2020 & I thought 190/200 OG was still high but it was relatively fair in comparison to you know if you think of the 2016 true blue 3s were 225 the 2015 maroon six was 220.
They sat right ?!?
Nike was forced to lower the price.
We need to see that again we all understand the concept of inflation, but we also gotta understand the concept of recession.
@veryfewrealleft1405 that's exactly it.. the prices keep going up but it's not justified for materials used. There's no way I'd double up, think about it.. almost $500 for two pairs?! It's crazy, for that amount they better be even better shape and high quality leather.
got mine so im happy, im going to wear one military and one fire red a@ the same time!!!! like back in the day
Just get the What The 4s
Great comparison
Thank you!
U need to be at 1 million subs but anyway my grail has arrived after 35 years and I'm loving my 3 pairs
Thanks man, spread the word lol🙌🏻🙌🏻
I'm happy with my pair, but what bugs me is Nike talking about how close to the OG these are when they clearly are not. The whole rake of the shoe is different, just to name one glaring difference.
Exactly!! So many people too thinking they are OG shape finally, well off to be honest and that's why I dive into these comparisons as best I can to show the truth.
Man they looks so much better then before but why won't Nike/JB just fix them!? It's so weird. Awesome video brother! Toe looks pretty good but I wish they'd fix that lower but vamp where the netting sits on top of the foot. That looks good.
Thanks man, yeah some improvements for sure. Some more tweaking could but done and better materials but overall solid
@@ogorbust1697 way more tweaks from those side shots Jeez man that slope is way off. Idk how people on IG show their OG's that look similar to these. Are the OG militarys just way worse shaped then the Other OG's?
Thanks man, hopefully this is an eye opener to those saying they are "og cut". Lots to fix still but step in right direction.
ogs look way better holy shit im not buying any 4s until they fix those big ass heel tabs
Yeah man, many things still need to be tweaked.. tabs one of them. A bit of an eye opener for all those saying they are og spec 1989, not the case
You always come thru
Thanks, I appreciate you tuning in!
Very enjoyable video! Keep up the great content! I’m with you on the price !😬
That vertical heel is terrible for heel slip, I might have to size down these thangs fit huge!
Ah damn.. haven't worn these yet.
As I will always say, it makes zero sense to charge $200+ for a retro and it NOT have the same leather that the Air Ships have, which cost $150.
Had to change out those insoles, my feet hurt so bad walking around with them. Now they are comfortable and feel great all over.
What you put in
@@ninofarhan9807 I actually had bought the Developer Boring replica Jordan 1s and found them to be really uncomfortable. I think they mixed up the left and right sole so it feels like I have them on backwards when I don't. Anyway the insoles with those are very good and I used them.
I always swap Dr Scholls, been rocking those clouds
@@ogorbust1697hell yea
The black rounded teardrop part of the og continues that angled aggressive look. The retro looks much kinder and less menacing 🤣
Exactly!! That shape is what makes the OG 4and many other so special and tough. Retros look like grocery getters 🤣
I remember as a kid in 89 cutting the side mesh after they got worn out.
Wish they had a poly insole like the reimagined 4’s but other than that I agree with 8.5/10.
Move all day insoles made these feel like a runner.
For sure, yeah I think that's a fair score
@@bulletz4life I use those insoles in all my shoes now. I agree.
My size .
I put OG 1989 pair on my channel.
Full grain without coating would’ve been perfect.
But color , shape seems 🎯
Yeah, a lot of people dogging the shade of blue but from what I've seen it looks close
Truly wish they would go to the higher cut for the back Bcs I love that it’s more slick more flush and I love that even on the 3s look amazing Bcs it’s not going to far with the back tab now for some reason Nike can’t get it right i hope soon we can get the true version
Higher cut, slanted from heel on down to toe box just makes a world a difference!
Finally! I've been waiting for you to do a review on these, and wanted your thoughts. I was hoping you had the original Military Blue 4s.
Heres what I dont like:
Three different shades of blue (heel tabs, midsole and eyelets)
The shade of vlue is up for debate, as Ive seen old pictures going both ways.
The off white blue-ish or gray uppers.
The shade of gray on the wing.
At this point theyr could of just called them reimagined.
Also, the price sucks, and the leather quality is just meh.
Just my .02 cents.
Id be happy to hear more of your thoughts..
Thanks man, yeah I wish I did have the og.. maybe one day. At least a cut and shape reference with fire red most importantly in the same size. I think the blue looks pretty close on midsole, again different lighting on photo references etc could change. That's why in hand is always the best. Solid retro though, had to get a pair but I agree on leather and price point.. had to mention in video too kinda ridiculous lol
Do you think the slant is more pronounced on the fire red because there’s no suede on the mudguard ?
No, same thickness of material, all the ogs built like that, comes down to construction with last etc
I'm not sure why JB insists on having a lower cut in the back with a higher back tab. Those back tabs rub against my Achilles when I don't wear high(er) socks and it's quite bothersome. That's my biggest gripe with these retro's!
Exactly, just raise the collar and shorten the tabs a bit they'd be much closer.
Can’t wait for your AM 180 vid.
After seeing these compared to the OG, the shape is definitely improved but not the exact “OG cut.” Still love my pair nonetheless because it’s my favorite color way behind the White Cement, now we need Nike to work on the 5’s and 6’s shape. 5’s need a complete overhaul 😅 Love your in depth analysis man 🔥
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video and found it useful! 5s have really fallen off og shape recently. Not sure what's going on over there but hopefully they do justice to the black metallic next year.
These videos make me sooo mad!!! Why can’t Nike get the toe box right??? J’s used to be a skinnier shoe now they fat like boots. Btw thank you for this detailed video! Love your channel!
Im not trying to upset you, just clarifying what exactly we get vs the originals lol.. so many said "og cut" as we know that's not true. Thanks for tuning in!
They can, but choose not to.
I have no idea why in europe the colorway of this retro is called Industrial blue instead of the correct OG color.
Even on snkrs here they were saying that lol.. it's military
its like that everywhere
Great pair but just needs higher proportions towards the back.
I use Move insoles exclusively in my shoes now. I take the insoles out of my new Air Jordans the first time I wear them.
I'm loyal for Dr Scholls lol
I asked , & received !!!! 👍🏼 now I will enjoy.
Haha, I hope you did!
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they just have to lower the cut towards the midsole and it will be perfect
For toe box yep, bur the collar needs to be raised to be level with heel tab
Only the black cement was durauck and the other 3 were all leather. Or did I mishnderstand what you were saying…
Military is the only leather, other 3 are durabuck.
7:02 The wings are angled too far forward. I think that's what causes all the problems with the shape, forces the side netting to be too small, the lace holes start more forward and end too high, which causes that hump on the front plastic tabs. Everything mid-foot and forward is all crammed. OGs look sleek. Retros still look like boats. Real shame.
Damn, didn’t notice that until you mentioned it. That’s what happens when they tweak the shoe instead of doing a full recraft. It’s so many things wrong with the current retro, but some will claim they are the closest to the 1989 originals. I strongly disagree as the 1999 retros are still the closest.
Maybe one day nike will give us a one to one Of the 3's and 4's
Yeah, 3s are closer. 2s they are killing now since black cement. Every other model needs work lol
Excellent comparison as always, brotha! My pair will be here any minute once the mail man drives up. Unfortunately, some LeChoke fan reported me for calling Bron a bitch, and reported me. They deleted my Instagram account lol
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Lol what?!? That's crazy! Leflop faithful must be running IG now 🤣
Shape wise i like the 2024 military blues its slope goes all the way down at that slant. The OGs slope as well but not how the retro is. Ppl just got this belief that everything OG is great and its not. I never liked the extra long netting going down to the toebox, the big ass mesh panel where the material bends and looks wiggly and loose the retros look better. The retros looks more plush on the netting making it look more intact. The 2012 and 2024 were good solid built military 4s when they released but i remembered the 2012s getting so much hate and ppl trashing it talking bout the quality when they had some of the softest and plush materials on it. Also and im from that era but OGs could use some redefining on some of these shapes, all the OG builds arent perfect.
Me-de-uhl not Me-dial bruh
Military blue was the only OG four that was leather
*you mentioned it
Yep!
So that means Jordan Brand and Nike screwed up with the Fire Red 4s 🤦🏿♂️
The last fire red retro?? Yeah, soooo off.
They will never get the tongue right that’s why I stay away over priced too!
Too tall 😅
no one buying these, most of the "reviewers are tring to fool people into thinking these are hard to get. and anyone under 25 is calling these the dad shoe colorway. hold off on buying these if you really like these, cuz they'll be at leat half off by july
😂😂😂 my guy these are sold out just about everywhere. What’re you on about?