The Murderous Downfall of YouTuber McSkillet...
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Trevor Heitmann, better known online as McSkillet, was an American gaming RUclipsr who created videos about CSGO Trading Skins. Following huge financial losses and a profound disturbance to his mental health, McSkillet's forthcoming actions would devestate multiple families.
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00:00 Intro
01:03 Trevor Heitmann's former years
03:06 The Rise of McSkillet
06:39 The Fall of McSkillet
08:30 Early warning signs...
09:29 911 Call + Bodycam Footage
12:00 A missed opportunity
14:15 August 23rd, 2018
17:21 Aileen and Aryana Pizarro
19:01 Exploring McSkillet's Mental Health
21:24 Aftermath
22:44 Personal thoughts
24:09 Outro
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Hey folks! A little different to my usual format, but this case is very unqiue. The further I dug through my own research, the more I realised that this case is not fully publicly understood. There were a few breakthroughs in my own investigation, and I hope this video contributes to the importance and urgency of realising a sudden relapse in mental health. This story gripped me, it is a very real and tragic case which claimed the lives of our real victims Aileen and Aryana Pizarro. I hope their family finds peace moving forward. Stay safe out there, and I'll see all of you again on Thursday!
Adrian ☕️
I'm obsessed with your content and style of delivery.
Love all the way from South Africa. ❤️
You've covered 2 SA cases that I know of, please may you do another?
That of Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp.
Thaaaaaaannnkksss.
Xo
It takes a lot of mental fortitude to continuously make videos about topics like this. Your research seems on point and being a part of the conversation allows you to make some valuable contributions ‼️ Keep up the good work 💯 ✨ Still listening 🎧 -- untreated mental health issues are at the core of so many of these sorts of incidents.
I just finished the video and loved that you focused on the mental health part of it all. It gets overlooked so much and people so easily point the finger to suicidal tendencies.
Tho id love it in the future if you put the victims stories first like you used to do in past videos even if you don't know that much about it. I think so anyways, tho i understand it's a different kind of case.
Thanks for covering this case! I'll be looking forward to the next one :)
@@tebogolegodi1174 Thank you! It's not Pistorius but we are back in South Africa next week!
Love your videos Adrian, and I'm hoping nobody comes for you because of the way La Jolla was pronounced. Either way loved the story.
It's legitimately fucking disgusting that the city is blaming the parents for "not acting sooner" when they literally fucking called the police who effectively just laughed them off.
YEP police was negligent. RIP to the mom and her kid.
I havent even finished watching but yea the police dismissed it as soon as they found out the kid was a millionaire. Money does not make people mentally stable such a narrow way to think of life
I wonder why they didn't hide his car keys despite knowing he was having mental breakdown
yeah. Think the City will sue the parents to save grace on the police. Those policeman must now live with the fact that 3 people died due to them not acting. This oh he has to hurt someone or break the law first then he can be arrested mindset is shocking.
I was literally going to post the exact same thing. This is the bullshit that makes me so angry. And the government wonders why we do not trust them. Even the city government is fucking stupid. I just can't
“Why didn’t the parents do anything?!”
The parents:
*Called a practicing mental expert who was also a family friend to give a professional statement that would have normally cost thousands of dollars*
*Called the police on their own son.*
*Begged the police to stop their son and get him help.*
*Were unable to commit him due to his age and him being a legal adult but tried anyway*
*Put their own car in the driveway to PREVENT him from leaving the house.*
*Were threatened by their son and put their own safety at risk by not only housing him, but trying to keep him IN the house.*
*Called the police on their own son AGAIN. Not because they were angry that he rammed into their vehicle but because they were concerned.*
*Were the first to warn police that something bad is about to happen despite the police having ignored them until they were finally forced to do something.*
Agreed. I don't know enough about the laws of CA to say for sure, but if those Police Officers genuinely couldn't do anything in that circumstance shown, that's the problem. If they COULD do something, and chose not to or were unaware that they could, THAT'S the problem. One of those 2 reasons cost 3 people their lives.
@@wezacker6482 the CA law is 5150, as stated in the video, which is a
@Goatbe Bryant More concerned about making jokes about Trevor teaching him how to make millions. So inappropriate.
You forgot the most important part:
*gave birth to and raised a dangerous murderer*
Something needs to be done about this. What in the world do we pay them for if they aren't taking the responsibility seriously.
Why do we arm and armor them up if they don't think we are worth putting their lives on the line for? [Talking about texas] The land of "manly big gun big truck mans"
With a chickensh police dept.
its so infuriating to hear that 3 people were asking, practically beggingto get him help and those officers ignored them
Tell me you don’t understand civil rights without telling me you don’t understand civil rights.
It is almost like cops are not trained to handle mental health issues and we need to find people who can help.
I swear people cry about police brutality and then complain why they don't take action without proper evidence. Its really funny if you think about it.
Same can be said about school shootings. So many red flags are ignored before they happen
@@ninakuup21 Ever consider the police in America are morons?
I am a mobile crisis worker but our policies in PA are different from California. There are very specific criteria that need to be met in order for a county mental health delegate to approve a 302 (5150). Then the individual is transported to a hospital and evaluated a second time and the physician has to approve the 302 one final time in order for the individual to receive inpatient treatment. We run into issues where we recommend inpatient treatment but it gets denied somewhere along the system. It's very frustrating and sometimes heartbreaking when we know they need the treatment.
The parents literally begged the police to take their son. They even got a professional to help corroborate their concerns. Honestly I blame the police. How did the police watch him violently lunge towards someone while speaking incoherently and say “yeah it’s not that deep. Just wait a month and legally chuck him out the house.”?? I’m speechless. I feel so sorry for the mother and daughter that lost their lives. Their family must have felt so sick.
I agree with everything that you stated 100%.
Not the job of the police.
Welcome to progressive California.
The cops should be held legally responsible for the death of all three people. They need to be in jail. If they want to be cops, there should be consequences for not doing a good enough job
Agreed. Plus the way he was clapping inappropriately and the Dad had to tell him it wasn't the time for that. Like come on.
The fact that the city had the guts to blame McSkillet's parents is absolutely disgusting. They tried everything to get their son evaluated, but the police laughed at their face. They are the ones to blame.
This whole he has to meet a criteria bullshit is really stupid. Like seriously stupid. If someone really concern you just do it anyways investigate it.
You wonder why most people in the states hate cops.
This is the state of mental health in the “western world” at large unfortunately. Everywhere seems to have zero legal responsibility to do anything about the problem.
Yes and he may look like a grown man, and legally be an adult, but he was EIGHTEEN ffs. His poor brain couldn't process everything that had happened to him in such a short space of time.
America's finest city.
@@teebobaggins America's homeless tweaker border drugs poop sidewalk city. Oh well at least it's sunny here durrrpdeeerrrrp
This is sad because this shows how much mental heath issues are just overlooked to the point of tragedy
I actually didn't know truly how tragic this story was. I was in my late teens at the time and just got out of my CS:GO phase but i did watch some CS:GO content from time to time after that. All i remembered hearing was that it just was an unfortunate accident with no one at fault. Up until i watched this video i had no idea it turned out to be such a tragic event
The fact that that officer literally joked, “He’s got to teach me his ways” to an obviously distressed father, already set the tone that they weren’t in any capacity professional or taking this seriously because how could a 18 year old that bought his own McLaren need mental help? They were more interested in the car initially- I cannot.
Edit: His father even had to say, “Not right now” in response to that idiotic comment about being taught his ways.
If I was the parent, I would have told them flatly "Not appropriate, Officer." With a stress to Officer. Since someone is supposed to be professional while there's a mental health call.
Yea this is how a lot of cops are... very cocky and joking around when it’s something very serious. Just imagine what they say when the cameras are off. The US needs to make it harder to become a police officer, I personally know people who became cops. That have no business carrying a gun and enforcing laws! Most police departments have a bunch of idiots running around enforcing laws they can’t even spell. It amazes me how other smaller countries require so much more to become police officers as the US barely does a physical test to see if they’re fit enough to run and jump over a gate. They might do it one time and that’s it, I was in Portugal and the Police looked like they just left the army. Everyone was in shape and actually cared about the people they were helping.
@@rosenoel that’s a great way to get them to antagonize you and do their absolute best to make sure you don’t get what you want 👍
Unfortunately all too commonly people mistake glitter and cash for integrity.
@@cvgodd1432 while everything you are saying is true, and I don't disagree, we still need decent people to apply in the first place. Where I am police have gotten such a bad reputation that no one even wants to be a cop. If you want to make a difference you pick any of the other several well respected and in many ways safer profession. So the few still applying are at best looking for a paycheck with benefits that you don't have to go to college for. At worst well let's not even go there....
The cops showed up, joked that Trevor should teach them his ways (because he’s so rich), left without doing their jobs, then acted baffled when something bad happened. Great work everyone
im sure you are perfect - congrats , the parents are to blame they failed their son by allowing his manic episodes to get to that stage without ever stepping in
Thanks. Great work to you too.
@@gavin1980 do the boots taste good?
@@jaden3651 ok I don’t agree with that comment, but what?
@@jaden3651 What the actual fuck does that even mean?
This truly is a sad situation. Trevor was crying out for help & the cops did nothing to have him put on a psychiatric evaluation. Prayers to both families & friends.
He still had no right to go and take two lives with him. I have no sympathy for him after that
@@Obi7Haki not his fault that no one ( besides his parents ) took his problems seriously and just shrugged them off. Dude needed help, never got it and look what happened. Dude just snapped. It's a sad situation all around.
You can agree that he was failed by the service and not feel sorry for him
@@smolivesmolive2798 To a certain extent- I do feel bad for him, he was crying for help and no one took it seriously. While it is true that he is at blame for the deaths of the mother and daughter, he is not alone to blame. Their blood, along with his, is on the hands of the police and rest who refused to take the situation seriously. This could've been easily avoided.
@@CaseyRedgrave not his fault, after he taking two lives? Tell that to the mother and daughter’s family. Go on sir, tell ‘em. See how they feel.
Shame on the police in this situation. To joke and say “he needs to teach me his ways”. Yeah, he’s 18 years old and you are on a psych call. He’s definitely someone that you want to learn from, not. The police absolutely had enough information to put him into a 72 hour hold. I’m an RN and I’ve seen patients get put into 72 hour hold by the police for a lot less.
"why didnt someone see the signs and act sooner?!" Here they did, and it still didn't matter. Mental health needs to be taken more seriously, BEFORE the crime is committed.
Exactly, and with all the school shootings, it's not something to ignore.
@@Mandy-Lee I agree wholeheartedly.
The way the laws on involuntary psychiatric hospitalization are set up in the US, it is VERY hard to get someone with a severe mental illness put on a hold, especially if the person refuses treatment. Also, the phrase "a danger to themselves or others" (the reason for making the hold request) is often misinterpreted by the authorities. So a lot of the time nothing will be done until someone is severely injured and/or killed.
Well instead of this huge argument about gun control, I wish they would focus on mental health. Seems like the way to go to save lives.
@@mariakelly90210 this. I have a relative with serious issues. It's next to impossible to get someone involuntarily committed. Especially if they are smart enough to not talk about crazy stuff in front of the cops.
He gave SO much warning, reached out for help, he told people he wasn’t ok and that he was worried over his thoughts. His parents BEGGED the cops to help and they did nothing. Who else is shocked over their lack of action?😬
That’s America for you
@@Cat-tg8nk you are not wrong 🙃
I’m not, cops especially American ones are useless
I'm doing a citizens police academy and 2 things I picked up that sucked. 1. there are so many crimes that they only focus on the stupid horrible obvious ones and 2. half of the time it goes to court and just gets dismissed.
Honestly, I'm sadly not shocked. So many horrible events happen due to police not taking action, looks at the recent school shooting in Texas for example
Really interesting case. It’s cases like this that highlight the importance of mental health services and the nuances often overlooked in media reports. Thanks for digging up important aspects of this story. The ending was so sad, obviously because of the lives lost but also, in my opinion, because it could have been avoided.
I remember this happening, was so crazy. I used to watch his videos all the time, hearing about this was truly upsetting. Couldn't imagine what his and his victims family's had to go through after this all.
"The city says the parents should have acted sooner." Ah, yes. I'm sure it would have made a huge difference if the police had ignored their pleas for help the week before instead.
Exactly this.
Literally this. They wouldn't have done anything before. When his parents and someone who is a psychiatrist and knows him says he needs help, perhaps just speak to him?!
california for ya.... pfffffff awful
You guys seem to forget our rights in America, a police officer cannot just detain you for no reason if you’re 18+ which he was parents can’t control what happens with him, the police couldn’t do anything there
@@thomasunderwood5780 That's not true. It happens all the time. In New York a car cut off a mailman as he walked to his truck while they were speeding. The mailman yelled slow down. It turns out the people in the vehicle were plain clothes police officers. They had no reason to detain him but they did. They said he was resisting arrest. Everybody had their phones out filming. Of course he was not. He had committed no crime when he yelled to them to slow down. They left the postal truck unlocked and wide open when they took him to precinct. Since he was a federal government employee just doing his job their heads rolled. They were used to doing what they did but they finally did it to the wrong person.
How on earth can the parents be blamed for anything.... these parents have my utmost sympathy and respect.
Because nobody wants to be the bad guy so blame someone else
I have to question parents that allow their kids, with undeveloped minds, to spend all their time in fantasy land online.
@@TheMary0831 that is 60% of the population including me
@@findthebox8623 Well good luck with however your kids turn out then I guess.
Agree 100%
Speaking as someone who had a person very close to me experience a mental breakdown, this case is heartbreaking. You just feel completely helpless watching them lose their mind, and if you don't know what to do, it's hard to actually take action. (Things get further complicated when the person is over 18, since they are no longer a minor, and it's completely up to them if they want to go to a psychiatrist.) And when his parents finally did try to get help, the police just did nothing! It's unbelievable and unacceptable, mental health crises are serious, and the fact that they just disregarded the parents' concerns is completely negligent on their part. (Not to mention saying they should have done more sooner, when they were ignored!)
As for the accident, I do think it should at least be manslaughter. His actions lead to death. Though if he was having manic delusions, then that can complicate it.
All in all, my heart goes out to the victims family, and to Trevor's parents.
God bless the family of those the mother and her daughter, two beautiful lives with so much more to live. Rest in peace two beautiful souls.
Although the neighbor wasn’t Trevor‘s doctor, she was an expert in her field and the cops just dismissed her opinion, and they didn’t listen to Trevor‘s parents who probably knew Trevor better than anybody on the planet
They COMPLETELY tunnel visioned from the start on their assumption that she was like a dramatic Karen just causing drama in the neighborhood or some thing. Because of that all they did was argue with her in the driveway instead of actually listen to the parents or actually attempt to even interact with Trevor to see if he fit their “criteria“.
I cannot comprehend it.
if dr. rusher was male, they probably would've taken him in for evaluation :-)
You could hear from the start they were eager to dismiss it. I wonder, were they just upset they actually had to do a meaningful job that day? Did they let their own favorite narratives regarding mental health get in the way of an actual evaluation of the actual situation? I guess we'll never know.
Having the cops deal with mental health crises is about as much sense as if we made plumbers work as tax attorneys.
In California "A police officer, a mental health professional, or a person who is a licensed member of a crisis team." all have the right to call a 5150 and it would be illegal for these officers not to do so under that recommendation. so very sad.
The police were incredibly incompetent. Trevor was asking for help, his parents were asking for help, even a board certified psychiatrist was telling them Trevor is a danger to society and yet the police ignored all that. Also the audacity of the city to blame the parents. Trevor and those two officers are to blame for the loss of two innocent lives. Trevor knew there was something wrong with him and he was looking for help and the people that are supposed to him help, the police, completely ignored him and the pleas of everyone around him.
What did his parents do? When their boy was crying and breaking down, they did zero. They lived with him and didn't do anything. But you're putting the blame on police who didn't even know him and had to abide by certain rules.
Parents should of taking him to a physiologist they had the money
@@marycarter6134 What if they did and got the SAME answer? He hasn't done anything YET....
Not the job of the Police. At the time the young man was not a criminal, what are they supposed to do?
@@gregutz4284 the job of police should be emphasized as prevented crime. Unfortunately it isn’t that way, but one way that we could better reach that goal is taking mental health more seriously. This was entirely preventable had he been mentally evaluated.
I liked this video being different. I just recently found your channel and I have watched quite a lot. It is so sad how this turned out for both families involved.
I live in San Diego, and I knew nothing about this case, but was effected by the accident when coming home from work that day; I was so far behind the crash, I didn’t know what happened. Very sad all around. My thoughts and prayers are with the families that lost their loves ones to the action of McSkillet (mental) and SDPD (incompetence).
The fact that the state tried suing the parents for “not acting sooner” is just mind boggling when you see body cam of them asking for help and the cops just wanted to know how to make 4million in 10months smh
It's so retarded. Severe mental illness may not show serious symptoms long beforehand and not being possible to act sooner, they did what was within their available legal means but was told that the mom could move out for the month it takes to evict her hallucinating and deaththreat throwing son out on the street.
They indeed didn't acted sooner. They called the cops they day he killed himself and two innocent people. If the police forced him to go somewhere, without consent or any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
@@hus390 Untrue. The parents acted as soon as they saw he was a danger to himself or others. They were sure that something bad was gonna happen soon and that’s why they called the cops. He was 18 and that was the only way they could get him help LEGALLY. The cops failed in their job. A 5150 required them to evaluate this kid, make sure he wasn’t a danger to himself or others, and if he was, get him to a hospital and THEN leave the scene. They did the opposite. They were concerned with his car more than his life and that’s why he and two other innocent people are dead. This kid was not mentally well enough to know right from wrong, his parents were bound by law which stated they couldn’t involuntarily commit him because he was an adult, the psychiatrist friend could only give her personal recommendation because she wasn’t caring for him professionally. So who else is there to blame? Nobody other than the cops.
@@hus390 Yea, they didn't force him to go and look what happened? Potential lawsuit looking a little better now doesn't it?
You cannot force someone into services. Involuntary in-service is not enacted until someone is in full blown crisis. So no its not surprising that the state didn't respond until the point of no return. I work in the field and have a certification through the BACB and the MACBO. I have call the police with clients in such intense crisis blood covered the walls and two separate staff went to the emergency room. Police are not equipped for crisis in any sort and often will not engage. I know this from multiple police calls.
This is a failure on the state to not IMMEDIATELY react when someone is showing physical aggression and a clear mental break along with a family begging for help.
Wow, that conversation between the police and his rightfully concerned parents is just INFURIATING.
I understand that, but in some cases they could have taken someone that would not fit the criteria and then the police would be to blame. there is no right move here. either you follow the rules and you're in the wrong, or don't follow the rules and you're still wrong
I still find that bullshit especially when you heard the phone call to police by someone who is concerned about someone mental health.
@@raidtard better safe than sorry. Unfortunately now they have to be sorry.
@@kkondor1081 I get it, in this case it was a sad decision from the police. But imagine that it was a different situation and was some girl mad at his boyfriend and calls the police on him and get him taken. I get it about the better fmsafe than sorry, but it won't apply for everyone
Police were just following the rules and law. Its no one’s fault.
The frustrating/scary part is that someone has to “hurt/harm” someone in order for the law to kick into action!
People are literally breaking the law and nothing is being done; sadly/unfortunately the moment the victim takes it upon himself/herself to protect themselves, out of fear/anxiety,l/adrenaline, with anything they can lay their hands on, they get into trouble with the law!! God Bless & Be Safe everyone🙏
Very detailed and well structured episode. Always my go-to channel! ❤
His parents literally did everything they were supposed to do, this is gut wrenching.
The parents literally didn’t take him to get evaluated lmao they tried to force the police to do what THEY were supposed to do.
@@youtubeshypocrisy he was 18, so they couldn’t make him go. wanna try again?
@@hocky-ham324-zg8zc u can't reason with trolls n idiots bro.some guys are idiots bro
@@hocky-ham324-zg8zc I've been in a completely different, yet similar situation. I live in a country where there are less if any checks to take someone in against their will. I was falsely accused of being a danger to myself, I was taken away from my own living space (I lived alone) and was physically intimidated to leave and be taken for evaluation at ward.
I could keep no belongings, I had no ID on me, and the place was awful. I was clueless, had to share a small space with people with clearly more problems than me. I was drugged against my will. There was nothing to do. I couldn't leave until I was cleared AND had someone pick me up. A woman there was cleared but couldn't leave because her son was "too busy" to pick her up. She was crying to staff so she could phone call her son and they would not let her. Honestly I think the folks at the "Flying over the Cuckoo's Nest" were treated better.
ABDUCTING people with alleged mental health problems works in this case because we know the outcome. But for other people, it is a violation of their own physical and bodily autonomy. I can't bear hear doorbells or see police any more because it was a very traumatic event.
Imagine giving police and crazy parents the power to abduct ADULTS because of "claims" of mental health issues. No. You need a court order. You need an evaluation. Otherwise the system just does more harm than good. I can testify for that.
@@hocky-ham324-zg8zc Apparently you don't respect ur parents anymore. I'm 28 and If i ever did that kind of crap my mother woulda smacked me across the face and pulled me out of the house by my hair and I would know I messed up. They did NOTHING as parents to stop him
“Parents should have done something sooner.”
How is someone supposed to predict a complete mental breakdown? If calling the police at an extreme point didn’t work, what in the world would have worked sooner?
Idk how much truth was there when the police saying they could not help when the parents called, but it's really frustrating, and one of the police's inappropriate remark about asking their son to teach them how to make that much money in a desperate call for help by their parents certainly paint an ugly picture of the police.
@@lifeloverNorris Those cops are the criminals here. They absolutely should be held accountable for what happened.
@@lifeloverNorris there is zero truth behind the police not being able to help. They should have detained him. They were within their rights to even arrest him for threatening bodily harm nevermind just section him... those police were just lazy assholes. My parents had to have my sister sectioned when she was like 16 or 17. I was 19 and came home and found her in a manic state at our house. All it is is making the person safe and getting a mental evaluation. Those police are 100% at fault for not bringing him to the hospital. Coffee house even read out the California code. The problem is that a 5150 didn't count towards their arrest numbers so it wouldn't help the police gain a promotion
It's like that Simpsons scene where Wiggum says:
"Just show me the knife, in your back, not too deep but it should be able to stand by itself."
Exactly! Blame shifting.
I worked with Trevor for a brief time on some advertising stuff. He was one of the first big creators to reach out to me when my channel was growing to give me some work and help me grow.
Bro gave me my first big paycheck in the CS:GO industry.
Really shitty how he went out, but he was a nice kid.
Rest easy bro
Stop calling a murderer “bro”
@@pattimaeda6097 eat sand
@@fvgeat your bros charred corpse
@@pattimaeda6097 eat dirt
These parents literally called the cops and reached out to a mental health professional. Do y’all realize how many parents wouldn’t go that far because they feel that they could fix it on their own? And here they are doing this? The police are to blame. The way they “joked” towards his dad knowing the extent of the call, the distress of his parents… they’re incompetent. They could of helped
True , also parents are reluctant to call police on a loved one because they are afraid the police will show up and shoot their child.
Yea we should get rid.of our own guns and let these stupid cops "keep us safe"
Mental health is no joke
@@Depths17 agreed ,Mental health issues affect us all , and people immediately blame guns , look at the Uvaldi texas shooting , that gun didnt walk into that school by itself and start shooting . Kid was mentally ill. Again everyone is focussing on the fire arm.
It's more so the laws that govern police actions that are at fault. Without a crime or signatures of two licensed psychiatrists there's nothing the police can do, even if they wanted to. It's ridiculously difficult to get an order for a psych commitment from a judge for a person with no documented history of causing harm to others or themselves. The most you can get on word of mouth is a welfare check.
The parents’ quick thinking and actions could have saved three lives, the police made sure that wasn’t to be case and two families have been destroyed forever.
Disgusting how the city is trying to blame shift.
Define "quick"
@@Vaginaninja Imediately after they noticed he was losing his mind?? Did you watch the video?
Mental health problems - especially mania, if that actually actually was Trevor's condition - are often difficult to treat in the best of cases. Whether or not San Diego had a policy about it, police typically are not properly trained or oriented towards mental health assessment in the field. It's a mistake to blame them, or the city.
What we should be doing, in every state, is FUNDING mental health services and facilities. But health insurance doesn't want to pay for it and neither does anyone else, apparently.
i mean you cant just randomly take ppl in because some one else says you should thats a slippery slope
@@marcushoglund5893 yeah except they had a licensed psychiatrist there with them and were not "randomly" requesting that
Thank you so much for talking about Aileen and Aryana Pizarro. Often, true crime documentaries spend minimal if any time talking about victims, beyond naming them. I wept for humanity’s loss of the two beautiful humans, and I would never have been able to honor their memory without your discussion of who they were as people. It’s touching and moving, thank you.
This story rips my heart out. It seems like such an avoidable tragedy. That poor innocent Mom and daughter. May they RIP. ....😢
I feel bad for the parents. They did what they could to get him some help and was turned away.
if you check on the other comments, they are still being blamed for it nevertheless
true so hard to control an adult especially when they are in a mentally unstable condition. Clearly a professional needed to handle him.
@@koweedate yes I dont understand why they are blaming the parents even after watching this video. they called the cops on their own son and were not given help.
Yeah. They lost their son twice... once when his mind slipped and another when he died.
It’s absolutely infuriating that the parents and the psych friend literally called and asked to have him held because he was clearly not well and the authorities wouldn’t do it. We always talk about how people need to be aware and say something when they notice someone struggling with mental issues that might make them a danger to others (mental health is ALWAYS brought up when there’s a school shooting) but when someone actually does it, no one helps them.
How does some start struggling with mental issues? It just starts happening out of no where? Is it from drug use? I’m just confused about the whole mental illness thing. He just goes crazy because he has a lot of money?
Totally agree with you 100%
The system is broken & noone wants to try to Fox it...our elected officials should be held acontable for not passing the laws that need to address mental health & very importante "Gun laws" that we the people have been fighting for since like for ever, with all of the school shootings.....They like the money alot more than any one of us & or our familys...Blessings to you all from puerto rico with lots of love
They were impressed by his money making schemes. Poor mum and sister.
@@mariatorres5563 Gun law?
He used a CAR!
You handled this case so well & with such tact. While definitely tragic for the victims, Mcskillet was suffering in many ways too & I love that you gathered as much. Mental illness is illness & is not a fun place to be.
I love this channel and the way you tell the stories. I've heard the McSkillet story before but not all the info you've included. You do it with respect to the victims and people involved.
I love that he honours the victims, so few true crimes channels do that, yet profit off their deaths. Most be so difficult for the families, seeing your beloved family member only known for their murder and nothing else
i feel this is a prime example of when a licensed psychiatrist says "this person should be detained for X reason" especially AFTER calling 911 for a "I feel he is a threat to himself and others" claim, you don't just blow them off because they aren't a family therapist.
As sad as it is, that rule kind of makes sense so psychiatrists can’t just go around calling the cops on people they don’t like or random strangers. But in this case the cops should’ve at least called a mental health evaluator directly to the house
As I agree with your intent that is simply not how the law is written. Simply because you can’t jail people you want just because you may think something is wrong with someone. Being in EMS we see this often where people make false claims to get the out of their house etc. sucks that he actually needed help. They should have called EMS for evaluation and talked to him prior to disengagement.
The actions of the officers seems insane itself. Even if there is a conflict of interest, if a psychiatrist is of their professional opinion that a person is suffering from a mental illness AND likely presents a risk to themselves or others, there should be a legally-supported avenue to detain them (and psychiatrists wouldn't just apply this to their hearts content because the medical board would likely suspend them for unprofessional conduct and/or unsatisfactory practice). This exists in most countries. In fact, in Australia, certain public officers (including police officers and/or ambulance officers, who can also liaise with each other in the situation) can 'section' or detain under the Mental Health Act a person who they suspect may be suffering from an mental health disorder, even if this is based on information provided by a caregiver (they should generally observe this person to subsequently complete the formality of this submission), so that they may be formally evaluated by a medical practitioner, usually in an ED.
I think this case almost certainly has the hallmarks of someone who is acute and actively suffering from a mental health disorder (or potentially drug affected, as certain recreational drugs or combinations thereof can also produce such a state) so it would be unfair to cast any aspersions on this person, not matter who they were as a person before this change in their mental state. Their reality appears completely decoupled from the common one that others in their environment share AND they do not have the insight to recognise this. The officers responding and their actions should be investigated. If they are found to have correctly administered their duties, then there is greater culpability on the systems in place to manage these situations (it clearly and evidently failed and is likely to do so again in the future in a similar situation) and the liability should fall here.
Dumb cops were just too lazy to do their job and searched for an excuse to go shove donuts in their faces while fantasizing about being able to buy a super sports car. 😡
Several friends and family members are now deceased at a young age because of apathy. A family member was in the Santa Fe shooting and almost didn't survive. Apathy!
As a former police officer on MCAS Miramar in San Diego we had some joint jurisdiction with SDPD. They were notorious for not helping at all. Due to undermanning on their part. The individual in this story DID meet criteria for 5150. He met 2/3, danger to himself and others. You don’t have to be PERT to make that determination. SDPD didn’t want the extra work.
Sounds like they couldn't be bothered with the paperwork. I know officers who will give certain cases the wide berth because all the admin work that comes with it...
I miss the SD flea market....I use to live in o'side.... Oceanside
I used to live there in the late 90s, early 00s. Looks like not much has changed. I loved the weather and things to do, but otherwise am glad not to be in that mix anymore.
They were notorious, you mean. You wrote "they were nitrous"
What a shame that this could have been prevented had they not been too lazy to do paperwork and too indifferent to public safety to do their job. SMH
I subscribed because you asked so nicely, and you have a pleasant voice 😊
Mania is the worst thing to happen to someone. It literally makes you a different person. I can't imagine the fear he was living in rushing to escape it like that.......
Sympathy? Really?????
@pattimaeda6097 he is to blame for the deaths of those people but at the same time mania is a mental illness that LITERALLY MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE to be intouch with reality. Its like blaming a coma patient for not waking up or someone with insomnia for it being their own fault they cant go to sleep. Your fcki g ignorant if you cant blame him but also feel bad for him as its not entirely his fault, if he had mania he was 105% not in control of his own actions that day and thats not a opinion its a fcking fact
@@pattimaeda6097we should’ve have sympathy for someone who’s reality is so screwed by their mental health they can’t tell right from wrong??
@pattimaeda6097 he couldnt control himself, what if u were living the dream having multipile companies and boom u loose it all what would u do?
@@pattimaeda6097do you have any info on mental health issues? Do you know what manic periods are like? I have bipolar 1 and have manic highs and manic lows, neither are fun and neither can be stopped. I do take my medicine as required because if not I want to remove myself from this earth or get so nasty attitude wise that I am unbearable to deal with or be around.
I work in behavioral health, and those officers should be legally responsible for those deaths. That was a very clear cut danger to self threat that they completely ignored. Professional negligence resulted in 3 deaths
Do we know what department this is?
They were just some people hating their jobs and blowing shit off. And **Thats why cops have to be more**, this breaks my fucking heart. I’m always team cops but these guys make it hard and fucked it up so bad and had every single sign to make a difference and ignored it
Totally agree
Do you know there's literally a supreme court ruling that says police don't have to do their jobs? (not trolling. It's real).
Not at all.
Hi Adrian.
Thank you for sharing this video and spending time to remind people of what happened on that day. Losing my mom and sister still hurts more than I can ever explain, but I am grateful they are not forgotten.
-Dominic
Very sad for your loss. It must hurt so much to lose such a good mother and sister in such pointless loss. My prayers and good wishes to you and your family.
I'm so sorry for your loss Dominic. I lost my twin sister 10 years ago and its a pain that never ever leaves you. Sending good vibes your way man.
Im so sorry dominic. I hope he sees this!
I'm so so so sorry for your loss Dominic. Stay strong, and remember there is always a light at the end of the tunnel ❤
I’m so sorry for your loss 🤍🤍
I'm sorry for the victim's loss of life. After the collapse of this young rich guy's businesses he appeared to cry out for help but nothing materialized from it. His actions doesnt fall under "murder 1" but he made a wrecklace decision to drive his car through the school yard then make a wrong turn onto a busy highway causing a horrible outcome. The officers should have detained him but they probably saw him as just another smart rich kid with "superficial problems" . The court records seemed to excuse his actions.
I hope those cops who mishandled this are being haunted by the innocent victims.
Thank you for giving attention to the horrible lack of mental health care in the US. My heart goes out to the family of the Mother and daughter that lost their lives. And to the parents of this young man. 3 victims that day lost their lives and many more are left behind to try and make sense of what happened.
@@byoshizaki1025 When I was in my late teens, one of my friends began displaying symptoms of the paranoid schizophrenia he was eventually diagnosed with. Trying to reason with him was exactly the same as trying to reason with my father years later when he had dementia.
I think we should go back and interview those two cops and ask them if they still think it was a good idea to do nothing
Unfortunately there's no such thing as accountability for the people that make the most serious decisions.
HMMMMMMMMMMM i wonder what theyd say.... what a stupid comment.
Everyone keeps blaming g the cops if his joker parents would have done something sooner how bout that I guarantee the parents are going to find a way to sue
@Leal Tire Repair and Sales Leal the parents did try an do something did you even pay attention to the video they were completely blown off by the police
If it’s not terrorizing poor people, they ain’t interested 🤷♂
I got clipped in the back as a kid and my mother was charged with manslaughter, this man drives on the opposite side of the road sober at 100 and deem it an accident, literally just because he has more money
I am sorry I saw this case!!! I really am. I had to stop and pray bc I usually have an opinion without emotion, but this one hurt like hell!! 😢😢
I feel awful for both families. Mental health is never taken seriously until it's too late. The police continue to be useless.
you think police are useless, you try and do the job. You wouldn't last one day
@@lyricberlin they would cause again they are useless. Do you realise how easy it would be. All I have to do is say "sorry can't help" or "that's your problem" and not get any recourse legally. We will last a day in their shoes their shoes are the easiest to fill.
@@lyricberlin Stop being a boot licker. The police were incompetent in this scenario and they're responsible for these deaths.
@@lyricberlin obviously the police was useless in this case.
I've never heard a song about the fire service saying fuck the fire department but I've heard a lot of songs saying fuck the police, ask yourself why
Even the parents were like "Please, help our son! He isn't well!" THREE PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU THAT THIS MAN MIGHT HURT OTHER PEOPLE! WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED? Christ almighty.
I agree
one of them a professional in that field it sounds like the police where looking for excuses not to, like oh but hes not your patient right?
THEY NEVER GAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES that’s why he wasn’t escorted. The cops were looking for certain words that had to be said
Also ultimately it’s not the cops decision to take him or not / it’s either ambulance on scene or her doctor
You can’t just throw someone in cuffs and forced them to a psych ward for 72 hours just because someone stated “he’s a danger to himself” without expanding on it
@@bartglowa6778 Shouldn't a licensed psychiatrist telling you that he's a potential danger be enough?
@@ricesneeze7107 no. She doesn’t treat him directly and to repeat myself - gave no specific examples or why he’s a danger
I’m a cop and I talk a lot of crap about cops cause there is a lot of aholes that are cops
But this particular scenario they did absolutely NOTHING wrong at all
The whole situation is sad and could've been avoided. Mental health should always be taken seriously, without proper help it can lead individuals to situations like this where people die. Police handed this poorly and didn't seem to take this situation seriously until it was too late. Mother and kid nor even McSkillet didn't deserve this. It's really sad that he was giving clear signs of having mental issues and they were just ignored or weren't taken seriously enough. I wouldn't blame his parents for this cause it seemed they did try, just seems like no one took them seriously.
I lived in San Diego at the time this happened. It was a total mess and so sad, (btw, its pronounced La Hoya), I always wondered the background of his decline. Thanks for posting this. well done
As the mother of a 19 year old young man , this breaks my heart. It sounded like the parents and neighbor were trying very hard to get help. If Mcskillet had not shown mental illness before, I’m not sure how people can say the parents should have intervened before.
Great work Adrian.
Some mental illnesses only manifest at adolescence.
Mental Illness can also be triggered by stressful event. Mainly losing his job/business.
A little over 30 years ago, I suffered a manic episode very similar to his, and had my roommate not intervened, I would have killed someone that night. Mania is something that should never be taken as a joke, taken lightly, or flippantly with a 'get ahold of yourself'. My family was zero help and it took a stranger to realise what was going on. My roommate saved my life and I dunno how many others' that night.
I feel bad for this guy. The anguish during a manic episode like that is beyond what anyone can imagine - and yet we know what we're doing. I certainly did. I just didn't care. I wanted peace in my head and had absolutely no idea how to get it, and would do anything to get it.
That was a long time ago, and I survived. He did not, and it really breaks my heart that someone who was pretty much a decent person couldn't separate reality, and the police washed their hands of him.
We need mental health specialists to respond to calls like this, along with officers. Lives would have been saved that night had that been the case.
Yes! Mental Health Specialist need to be an active unit in every law enforcement agency across the country.
I get the manic episodes too.. meds, music, weed (legal) & keeping away from people except one or two max. Most importantly: knowing not to make any important decisions, deal with money in any way, nor drive. But it takes a lot to get the help you need in this country... unfortunately.
What a nightmare. I called the police twice to help when my teenage daughter was behaving irrationally. They were great, which in my city, is not to be assumed. They took everything I said seriously, they weren't rough with her, but they did take her (actually us, I rode with her) to the childrens hospital and they waited outside the examination room until she had been transported safely to the psychiatric location. I literally don't know how it may have ended without their professionalism and support. She was a tiny thing, but she had already left my brother with bruised ribs as he attempted to restrain her. They literally just traded blows. He had her boxed in in a hallway. She would kick him in the ribs and he would throw her against the wall, harder every time. She would hit the wall, crumple to the floor, then get up and deliver another devastating kick. He would answer by throwing her ever more violently into the wall. I finally yelled at my brother that I told him to restrain her, not hurt her. He turned to me and kind of wheezed "she's killing me." I couldn't believe it- she was actually winning the fight. That's when I called 911. She is a well adjusted 24 yr old now and it has actually become a source of family amusement, the time she beat up her uncle when she was 15. Even more impressive than the bruised ribs was the bruise that appeared on his back in the shape of her foot- like she had actually kicked THRU his chest clean to the other side. It's still a mystery- but I saw it. It was there for at least a week. We laugh about it now, but I haven't lost sight of how differently it could have turned out if the police here had responded like the ones in this story.
I read a comment previously that if you call an ambulance, or take the person to hospital, they are much more likely to get help than calling the police.
The hospital will do checks and have specialists to assist, especially in child cases, the hospital has a duty to test and care for the individual, the police will just walk away if there is no crime being committed.
But of course that requires the person to be willing to go.
Glad you had help and are still here today
I'm bipolar 2 and have had only hypomanic episodes and even those are scary enough! People have no idea how much privilege they have when there blaming him and his parents after they clearly reached out for help, cause really this could happen to anyone... One mental snap is all it takes...
How are you recording on your phone telling someone else to call 911?
The incorrect pronunciation of ‘psychiatrist’ nearly caused me to snap😂
So glad I found this comment!
Complete stranger who approached his car immediately says when asked what he said just says “somethings wrong with him!!”…. How can a complete stranger have an immediate reaction & thought like that but the PD didn’t?? Even though he’d screamed & lunged at his parents & Psyciatrist making weird noises in front of the Police?? Perfect example of as a loved one, you can do all the right things to help someone but if someone in authority doesn’t do the appropriate thing, it’s all for nothing…. So terribly sad!!!! 💔💔
Police saw a MILLION DOLLAR CAR and knew if he can afford a car like that he can afford lawyers too
The PD needs certain criteria met to detain someone.
That being said, they were given credible information that Should Have prompted them to simply ask him to stay in treatment for 72hrs.
Seriously!!!
The officers were idiots
@rcajavus8141 not even close to a million dollars lmao it's a Mclaren 650S
The cops were more interested in how the kid made millions of dollars in less than a year than doing their jobs and why they were called at the residence in the first place. And the neighbor, I hope she isn't beating herself up or thinking she could have done more to prevent all of these from happening. She did what she could even when the cops implied in their questions that she didn't know what she was talkibg about just because she hasn't seen the kid in a professional setting. This is insane.
what job were the police called for at that incident that they could've helped? they cannot arrest him. he needed a psychiatrist. the parents and family failed him
@@flipnap2112 they couldn’t force their son into mental help, so they called the police in hopes that they could detain him and take him in and he would be FORCED to receive help, the police dropped the ball on this one.
@@flipnap2112 I see you didn't watch the actual video, where in the police are literally who get called to involuntarily commit people for psychological issues. They're literally who get called for wellness checks.
Now should they be? Nope, but that's what the US has tasked them with.
Like the other reply said, the police can involuntarily admit someone to psychiatric care, at least in CA. That was their job, Dr. Rusher even called it out by code.
@@flipnap2112 the cops are legally allowed to detain a person pending investigation, which doesnt require a crime since it's not an arrest and no charges are filed. It's a different kind of law enforcement, which is still public safety. The law here is CA 5150, which allows the cops to detain and escort any person to a hospital for a professional evaluation by a doctor, for up to and including 72 hours maximum. After that time, they are legally required to be committed to hospital by a clinician for further treatment, or released. Since it's not an arrest, there doesnt need to be a crime yet, just the concern of threat to self or others, which they had. The cops dropped the ball from the jump by not even interviewing trevor and observing him with their own eyes, instead assuming a lot and giving the bare minimum non answer of how to obtain a TRO / eviction. They didnt do their *one job* of law enforcement to ensure public safety hands down period imo
Great content and well detailed analysis of such a tragic situation! I’ve been getting off the 805 on Miramar Road every day at 530am for the last 10 yrs n never knew about this until now?
Well Done. ❤ Very troubling & concerning for our Future.. Trevor's Parents should take the Channel Down - advocate Laws for this Content be assessed before another loss of life be taken in similar circumstances .. God Bless & Protect US All Everywhere. 🙏ThankYou for sharing this content...
Really sad story, can't imagine how the family can continue living through such a tragedy!
those officers that were talking about how nice his car was and how much money he had instead of the important information his parents and neighbor were telling them should be ashamed of themselves. The two victims would have lived if those officers listened to his family and I hope they feel guilty.
Maybe the cops need to be evaluated? Hmmmm.....
"he didn't break any laws"
driving 120 mph in a 30 zone the wrong way is no crime?
I don't think they should feel guilty at all. Nonsense!! If the police forced him to go somewhere, without any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
You understand the cops LITERALLY can not do anything. By the law- which they enforce, they can not arrest someone because someone else thinks they need to be detained… and tbh, thank God for that… In this case it turned out to be tragic, but the fact remains…
And this is not coming from some cop bootlicker… I very rarely agree with police action. But lets be honest… if the cops decided to take a strong arm approach w this kid and ended up putting a bullet in his head cuz he lunged at them- they’d be on the stand defending their lives… and if the law says you cant detain someone that hasn’t done anything yet- they’d be going to jail…
@@hus390 It's literally the law where they are that they can do that. That's why they kept referring to 5150. And she does not *have* to be his actual physician, she was on site and qualified and they were required to respond to her concerns with significantly more seriousness than they did. But hey, guess they've got a lawsuit now, eh?
His parents: he thinks if he speeds down the road the wrong way in his car he can teleport through other cars, he's already tried it once and its a miracle nobody was hurt or killed
Cops: Woah, _this_ car?? Hes got a McLaren?? Sweet! OK bye
Police can't arrest somebody because they thought some stupid shit.
@@Rapture582 Did you miss the entire section about PERT holds and that he was obviously qualified to be detained on those grounds, and that he had admitted to breaking the law by going 100 the wrong way in a 25? The police just couldn't be bothered.
@@Rapture582 It's not an arrest, it's detention under PERT (psychiatric emergency response team). The police handling of this situation is unforgivable.
@@Rapture582 I mean they've arrested people for much less, so what stopped them this time?
@@user-us9mk1de9m "I mean they've arrested people for much less, so what stopped them this time?" Smaller arrests are less paperwork and hustle.
Adrian, thanks for your great videos.
Thank you for giving the facts. I really appreciate your hard work! So very SAD 😳😞
as a retired psychiatrist that treated the chronically mental ill(schizophrenia and bipolar d/o)this story infuriates me- the only time one of my petitions for forced hospitalization was rejected ended up with a suicide.
That's upsetting. You guys have the biggest say in these things yet the authorities won't take your word for it
So sorry to hear about what happened. I can imagine your pain especially when something could be done to prevent what happened.
Do you think the cities are just not willing to properly fund facilities for people with mental illness?
Heartbreaking
@@HerveyShmervy Police are shit when it comes to mental illness as a default. Involving them, most of the time, only aggravates the person experiencing an episode -- this is why so many people having breakdowns have been killed by police. Police officers rarely, if ever, understand that their presence is threatening, and that a person can respond aggressively to what they perceive as threatening. At the same time, police know that whoever they approach is not going to comply, and that lack of compliance makes for a day that most police simply do not want to have. So negligence on the part of police is a given. They don't have the training, they don't have the self-awareness, and they don't have the motivation. This is also not just a problem in the United States. This is true pretty much everywhere. Almost all interactions between police and the mentally ill end with varying degrees of violence.
With regard to sectioning itself, though, this is a complicated topic and it shouldn't be treated flippantly. On this particular occasion, having him taken in for an evaluation would have prevented this tragedy, even if they didn't wind up sectioning him. However, what the retired psychiatrist isn't going to mention is how destructive sectioning actually is for most people. Sectioning does nothing to contribute to a person's well-being except to begin the process of gradually taking away their independence. Most people who experience sectioning consider it one of the worst experiences they've ever had.
The person above may feel differently, but I will take the stories of hundreds of thousands of people across the world over the opinion of one psychiatrist any day of the week.
@ KAT DRAGON, please accept my deepest sympathies for what happened to you and your patient. The system is FAILING mental health issues as we see them becoming worse as our lives are becoming much more difficult to navigate. FFS, YOU are an Board Certified Psychiatrist and your clinical diagnosis should have been the ONLY opinion to determine the necessary actions.
There's lots of cases where at first the cops are like "well nothing we can do" then when a crime happens they're like "we should have been contacted sooner to prevent this"
What gets me is they completely brushed off an actual psychiatrist as if she didn't know what she was talking about, then go "whoopsiedoodle you should've told us sooner" when shit hit the fan literally minutes later.
There's a reason there's nationwide unrest about police lately. People feel they're inept, and constantly fail to take matters seriously when they should and taking matters that shouldn't be serious way more serious than they need to be.
And it's true. I can count far too many cases where this exact scenario happened, all across the USA, and it's honestly sad.
@@WildWombats If they walked in to his room and took him away, you would be in these comments saying they're corrupt and had no right infringing on the rights of an innocent man.
You're not here in earnest, you're here to spread an ignorant anti-police narrative. You're the worst kind of person.
@@WildWombats Nonsense!! If the police forced him to go somewhere, without any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
@@TonyGearSolid She wasn't his doctor. So while her input is good, they can't shield themselves from liability had he sued them for unlawful seizure. Nonsense!! If the police forced him to go somewhere, without any legal reason, they can face lawsuits. The family's friend who was a doctor, wasn't Trevor's own doctor. I literally can't blame the police knowing about the hundreds of lawsuits they faced when they acted and did what the family was asking them to do. Sorry!!
I have personally seen a close friend go through this kind of mania and until you have seen it first hand you really can’t understand what it’s like. The other aspect of this which is far from understood is the persons’ lack of self awareness. To them, they don’t realise they are unwell. Their delusions are reality to them. So it’s very hard for someone in this state to be able to recognise that they actually need help.
Great video, this happened right near my house and we were rivals with his high school. Just for the future it is pronounced La Hoya. But no worries
Mental health is NEVER taken seriously by police. Both my father and my brother have gone through multiple episodes and the police have been involved around 2 dozen times. If the person in question refuses to self admit or be evaluated there's nothing they can do, and who in such a state would ever agree to either? Something needs to give with the system..
It's not that they're not taken seriously, they're not trained for it so they don't know what is and isn't an incident of mental distress. This is why the police need to be abolished and rebuilt from the ground-up.
Check out your mental health statutes. Normally you only need 2 sound reasonable adults who know the person to get a 5150/involuntary 72 hour hold
Definitely does.
I have actually had to call the police on an online friend who was in a very bad mental state and thinking about ending his life. This was in Germany, though. (We lived about 700 km apart)
They came with police, a few armed officers and a dog since he told me he had a weapon, and an ambulance. They talked to him, then brought him into the hospital where he stayed a few weeks.
He was mad as hell at me first, but is doing a lot better now and I am glad I did call. I didn't go via 112 (911), but called a police station in his city.
After I called I didn't hear from him or anyone for quite a while, but I was able to get the info that everything is getting taken care of from an officer I checked up with. They can't give any specific information of course, but it helped calm me down as well because I knew he was going to get help now.
@@AFDM007 I'm wrong? my brother was walking around the house with a knife.. the cops brought him to a local gas station for an hour to "cool off" and brought him back to the house right after. What's it going to take?
Dont say that. Of course there will be good police officers who will care about your mental health.
Police officers represent all groups of society... you have all kinds of people who are police officers... they arent a "special kind"...
I definitely enjoyed a story where mental health was the focus rather than “that bastard” talk that only demonizes. He desperately needed help. The family tried and was blown off. Our system is broken and that car collision should have never happened.
"The system is broken"
This trashole and his family had more than enough resources to get help.
Look at his actions before his "breakdown," he was a douche bag. What kind of jerk buys a car like that? And what kind of loser millionaire still lives at home?
He was clearly just a shitty person. Good riddance. It's a shame others had to suffer because of this jerk.
I had a psychotic break…..thankfully no one died. It is very real and you see and feel things that aren’t there. We as a society are woefully ignorant on this subject….peace to all
This story is heart-breaking for all parties involved that mother and daughter absolutely did not deserve their untimely demises and yet i also feel like Trevor was a victim too. To build such a massivly successful empire, and to lose it all through no fault of your own would destroy you. Especially at such a young age.
A tragedy accosted to the modern world. The first time you get fired is from your own multi-million dollar company.
I’m shocked at how easily the police dismissed the pleas for help, and seemed annoyed by the psychiatrist. They instantly shut her down as if she were being ostentatious. It’s literally infuriating.
Also… I love your channel, voice and consistency 🙏🏻 thank you for bringing us these stories and covering the heartbreaking content so gracefully.
So you would rather have the gestapo breaking down your door because Karen said so?
@@ipissed a psychiatrist is not a 'karen'.
@@Cheapphilosophysale Do you have a list of jobs that "karens" can do please? How often is this list updated and can I submit some jobs?
It's like the cops thought that a kid who could make $4 million in such a short time couldn't possibly have mental illness. Wrong.
Are you actually surprised? I’m not.
It's so sad that the police had said that he'd need to break the law first - he had already admitted to driving at 100 into oncoming traffic in a 25 zone and they did nothing. How shocking that they have the audacity to blame the family for not acting sooner.
I am a emt ( first responder) and he does in fact meet the requirements of a 72 hour hold and would have had the help he needs and in my area the cops would be held responsible for not acting in the line of duty. All of the cops should be charged with 2 counts of manslaughter. That is what would happen in my state.
Cops once again proving they don't actually prevent anything
@@shaymorcormick8743 If we abolished all police agencies overnight, would there be the same amount of crime since they “don’t prevent anything”?
@@trevthegamedev how about we take away their qualifed immunity and replace it with maximum penalty for any crime committedl
@@shaymorcormick8743 Answer my question and I will answer yours. You said they don’t prevent any crime, if that’s true then then you must think it would be a net positive to abolish all state/local agencies.
Aware. I was wondering why he stopped uploading since i found his channel just today while searching up some stuff because of cs2. old returning cs player from 2016. Sad for the families and innocent victims :(
Great job everyone for helping that kid when he needed it the most happens much too often very sad two innocent people also lost their lives 😢
Imagine being a professional and being disregarded before finding out about the boy’s death and the death of the other two… the intervention would’ve helped a lot. And to make matters worse, the mother who died was wanting to work to help people in a similar way as the neighbor did.
Pretty sure they must've cleared their conscience saying there was nothing we could do about it.
@@lean.2366yeah. But maybe a new house would help too
My understanding is it's very hard to detain ppl when they've not committed a crime. If the police felt there wasn't legally anything they could do they could either be wrong or right and if they're right then its an issue with the law rather than police not doing their job. Its frustrating. I've had ppl with psyche problems in my family and it cam feel hopeless when they won't do anything.
The police offer's lack of concern is infuriating! That poor mom & daughter! I feel so bad for all the families involved. 💔 Thanks for covering this case.
One was to busy trying to get rich then to care
I was living in La Jolla when this happened and I remember hearing the sound of the impact from my apartment, thinking it was some sort of training exercise at the neighboring Miramar base. I found out it was a car accident but knew nothing behind what caused it, this is crazy. I grew up in Carmel Valley from 5th grade through high school and can attest that there is a ton of mental illness in that part of SD. A lot of wealthy people with spoiled kids that receive zero punishments for their actions. The PD there are super incompetent as well, clearly, as they have literally nothing better to do. Sad story
“ You know your driving in a school zone, right” while he’s literally in the playground 😂
This case is so infuriating, the parents called the police twice to help their son BEFORE he harmed himself or someone else and they flat out ignored the problem and it cost 3 people their lives then they act like its the parents fault...
I mean obviously…the cops never do anything wrong in the governments eyes
That's government bureaucracy for ya
Exactly, Trevor hasn't committed any crime so the police can't do shit about it.
@@Delta5x7 More specifically Commiefornia for you. Liberals would rather put the blame on the individual instead of themselves in situations like these
@@jayr1404 This is actually not entirely true. You do NOT have to commit a crime to be placed on a 5150. I know because I have been 5150'd twice in my life. The whole "you have to commit a crime for us to help you" excuse is a card the cops play when they just don't want to help or think help isn't needed despite strong evidence from loved ones and actions being shown. SDPD absolutely had the legal authority to place a hold on him, and it would've held in court if it was ever challenged given the context of Trevor's current life and problems. The police should have acted. A board certified psychiatrist giving a recommendation with her credentials, the parents concern and honest demeanor, and Trevor's actions prior to the police leaving. I have seen people held for less and it go unchallenged. Some people don't comprehend how severe and dangerous mental illness is, and when someone is CRYING for help to their parents and loved ones and they act on it that should be acknowledged. The problem is many officers are too afraid to act. They would rather just ignore the situation and wait until they can just take you to jail instead despite having FULL LEGAL AUTHORITY to put someone on a psychiatric hold if a doctor (especially a board certified psychiatrist) makes the recommendation directly on their credentials. It makes the doctor responsible for the hold. That lady was willing to put her name on the paperwork to make it happen. That is by law enough in California.
Sorry to go on so long about this but it's just frustrating (not you specifically) that police play this cowardly card of "tHeY nEeD tO cOmMiT a cRimE" because they refuse to acknowledge the severity of mental health. Those are the ones who only care about locking people up and nothing more, completely spitting on the idea of protecting others. I can guarantee you the very vast majority of 5150's challenged rarely get anywhere. Rational doctors and judges would rather hold someone for 72 hours, even if it ends up potentially being no necessary. Many people come out of these holds very grateful, and I am one of them. These holds save lives, especially the lives of innocent people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Worst yet is that everyone is a victim in these accidents. I feel about as much remorse for Trevor and his family as I do for the family of the people in the Hyundai. This was such a tragic and glaringly obvious avoidable accident even with hindsight.
A pattern I’m starting to notice is how often law enforcement are warned about the potential threats these people are and them just shrugging it off.
To be fair - if they had to detain every lunatic on the streets, the cells would overflow within days
“He wants to harm himself and others? Pfft, we’ll see about that! Give us a call when it happens, we don’t really prevent crimes from happening; that’s a myth!”
@@User-rka_zykx76 that really sucks. Good luck with that... Isn't there any way to get him committed to a psychiatric hospital or center or so?
Or they show up and kill the mentally ill person.
@@notDundi They were not going to detain him. They were supposed to take him to a psychiatric hospital for an evaluation. This young man was probably suffering from Schizophrenia which with the right medication can be treated and managed.
This is really tragic. I wish he had gotten the help he needed. It seems that everyone who came across him except the police officers said something was wrong and even he expressed that to his parents. I think that his parents could have done more like store his car somewhere else or make sure he was not able to start it at least. My heart goes out to the Pizarro family. There was nothing the mom could do in that situation. So sad.
Goodness! What a case. Thanks for sharing it.
His parents really tried their best. It's such a tragedy. :(
If they tried their best they would have got him to a DR and seeked medical help. Not call the cops. Cops can't just arrest a kid for no reason
@@VvvnimaL you are not allowed to just... kidnap an adult and take them to a doctor
@@cadelfowl7724 police can't either
@@VvvnimaL 🤣 police can atleast help idiot..
@@VvvnimaL well, like the video show, they could...
It was almost as if once the police heard "he's a very intelligent kid.. He made 4 million in 4 months" they dismissed the parents concern of his mental health!! Blows my mind!
Just because you're intelligent doesn't mean you don't suffer from mental health issues... It affects anyone and everyone... such a sad and frustrating story
It is stunning that the police ignored a *medical doctor* trained for *years* to deal with exactly this kind of illness. She was using the legal terms for having someone held involuntarily for mental illness evaluation. It was the JOB of the police LEGALLY to get him to a hospital for evaluation! That is just awful and frustrating that the police officers were so dismissive and, frankly, ignorant about the law. His parents and the neighbour were simply too compliant and polite, but I’m sure they were doubting their own instincts and judgement after the response of the police. Young people are vulnerable to mental illness. In fact, young men between approximately 18-28 years are (statistically) more vulnerable to the onset of schizophrenia for unknown reasons (as far as I know). This young man may have experienced brain chemistry imbalance due to intense stress or he may have been showing early signs of serious mental illness (bipolar or a delusional disorder). Either way he wasn’t in control of his thinking or actions; he wasn’t in reality. It’s just so tragic that two innocent people had to die because he didn’t get the help he was crying out for. 😢
Imagine jumping to conclusions like most people did in this case. Abselutely discusting. He cried for help, his parents pleaded with the police and they ignored it. Shame on big youtubers who also jumped to conclusions, using their audience for literal accusations, especially Keem. He suffered hard, even a complete stranger at the school saw it. "something is not right with him". Yet noone helped.
Tragic, waste of lives that could have been avoided. It is sad.
I feel so bad for everyone involved. Calling Trevor and his parents the villains is just not accurate. Mental health is a major problem. When your mind is that far gone you can't be held fully responsible for your actions. Then on the other hand two innocent people, just going about their day, lost their lives and their families have to live with that forever. Rest in peace to these two beautiful people who lost their lives for absolutely no reason...
This. The parents can't even stop the very issue that is his mental health.
As a mental health professional, this case is horrifying. I can’t believe the lack of response from the police after he not only threatened to harm his mother, but after assaulting his neighbor. To say that they had no grounds to take him to a hospital is astonishing. His parents did what they are supposed to do in this situation. The police failed.
Exactly, it makes no sense, it should have been a kind of welfare check too. The police aren't medical professionals but most people would have seen this as common sense and ignoring an expert is ridiculous. They seemed more interest in the car.
I don't know if it's the same in his state but here in Idaho it takes an act of Congress to get someone committed because they're so big on "individual rights". Further to that point, a squatter can literally come here to someone's house while the owner is away, take up residence and if they stay for 10-15 days the owner has to have an eviction notice done up. Police can't do anything. Out here in the west it's insane
@@TeddyBullard oh shit that’s crazy. I’m in the Midwest and at least in Ohio, police can at least take you to a medical hospital to be evaluated to see if you need to go to inpatient
@@lexieh1989 yes, I remember, lived in Ohio(circleville) it's one of the things I miss about being in the Midwest and southeast(north Carolina, my home state, specifically). The state laws there are better in these situations, specifically. Here, "individual freedom" prevails over safety/common sense
@@nance7483 that's insane! I didnt know such a thing existed till I got here. (Idaho, from NC). I've seen my landlady's 37 year old son go bezerk 3 times, one in which he was *butt naked and running from the police with a baseball bat* , and they couldn't do anything. Because when they subdued him and asked him "are you gonna hurt someone" (no) "are you gonna hurt yourself" (no), he told them he was fine. Lmao. Of course he's gonna say that when y'all are looking, dummies. Lmao
If you really think about it... He wasn't that far off from his theory. He said, "by driving at a high enough rate of speed in the wrong direction, he wouldn't be touched." So his body literally exploded/ ripped apart and was basically flung into whatever afterlife.
Thanks! Mania is a medical emergency - thank you for sharing and educating.
Initially they seemed more interested in how an 18 year old could come into possession of such an expensive car and furthermore how they could get advice from him in order to get one... they didn't take a minute of the parents' concerns really serious.
Cops love money and your possessions.
Exactly! That sickens me
I am actually surprised they didn’t bring up drugs when told he earned 4m in 10 months.
Parents haven't expressed their concerns at that point.
@@brentrichards1200 yeah exactly. OP is tripping here. The just got to the scene and are getting acclimated to the situation. Of course they would be taken aback first with how a 18 yr old got such a car
Hearing police say “he doesn’t meet criteria” when they weren’t even talking to him is so frustrating. Police can’t make that determination. A professional evaluating you in an ER has at minimum a masters degree in mental health and can make that determination. Cops should’ve taken him to the ER and allowed the appropriate professionals to decide what criteria he met or didn’t meet. I’ve worked in inpatient psychiatry. Trust me, hospitals aren’t itching to admit someone who doesn’t need it there’s limited space. If you in fact are ok you will be released so always err on the side of caution. The family did all they could. These cops seem like they just didn’t want to bother. Their training in no way compares to a mental health professional’s training, I bet they only transport ppl who are acting out, breaking things, belligerent etc. Ppl can and regularly do, calmly plan their suicide or homicide before acting it out. When will we start funding and taking mental as the serious public health crisis it is?
Even if they just spoke to him. I think he would have probably reacted violently. My mother had to be committed once because she said she may kill herself after her mother dies (she was in a deep depression).
I feel bad for that family, the man & His family. The Justice system failed him
It's really upsetting and confusing because he had apparently threatened his mother. But the police said he "didn't meet criteria"? And the parents ended up saying *they* would take the person who had threatened them to be evaluated themselves? I mean...what? There was a literal threat. It's not like they were asking the police to declare him mentally incompetent right there and then; they were asking for him to be taken for an evaluation at a proper place of care. With a mental health crisis raging through this country, one would think officers would respond more appropriately. Of course, one would think we'd have proper mental health facilities sprouting up, government funded (they can do without a few dozen of their pet projects to fund this, imho), so *everyone* would have a place to go, and there wouldn't be bed shortages or cherry picking of patients.
They'll act when intangible factors like mental illness can be physically quantified.
And by that, I mean never.
Remember: many of these "institutions" and politicians believe more on the power of "thoughts and prayers" than actual active reform.
Doesn't matter, that professional WAS NOT HIS REGISTERED PERSONAL PSYCHIATRIST! What part of "HIS REGISTERED PERSONAL PSYCHIATRIST" don't you fucking understand!?
I'm pretty sure he would of needed to give the cops consent to be taken to a ward or doctor. Unfortunately they can't just kidnap someone who hasn't committed a crime. the parents or friends whoever should have had just took him to where he needed to go unfortunately even if it was under force. The media would have a field day if police just started yanking people up and putting them in wards lol. Most cops don't even know how to use a gun you expect them to be able to give a 8 year degree on somebody's mental state.
Someone that needed help and never got it. Sadly, the only thing that a doctor can do is give him meds that would calm him down but in the end, the parents did what they could. Rest in peace for both of them. This is a lesson so not only watch people you love, but to also don't point blame, you never know what is happening.