Ryan's Daughter - Michael and Major Doryan pt1

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • Michael and Major Doryan.
    These two clips look at the relationship between the two characters.
    First clip is Doryan's arrival and how Michael realises that he is a little like him.
    Clip 2 is in Ryans pub where Michael's foottapping sets off Doryans shell shock.

Комментарии • 72

  • @weeknightingale
    @weeknightingale 17 лет назад +7

    Splendid! I saw this film with my mother many years ago. Thanks!Love these classics.

  • @9386265
    @9386265 13 лет назад +34

    The critics ravaged the movie, but none of them ever won so much as a toilet seat, let alone an Academy Award. David Lean's movies won, I believe, 18 Oscars in his career and for me, Ryan's Daughter was one of his best. I wached it three nights in a row in 1971, in Hawaii and remember telling everyone that I knew that a village idiot , who never spoke a word in the movie was going to win an Oscar. I was right. John Mills won it for Best Supporting Actor. Great, great movie. An epic.

    • @skreety0455
      @skreety0455 3 года назад +3

      Absolutely splendid Oscar winning acting ---and what visuals!!!!!

    • @PennPearson
      @PennPearson 2 года назад +2

      Yes, one of my five favorite movies. Excellent acting, photography, story and music. I was particularly taken with the character of Major Doryan. He said very little, but a lot was suggested.

  • @lphmoongazer
    @lphmoongazer 17 лет назад +13

    Wonderful movie. One of my all time favourites. Love the story, the acting, the setting, everything. Great clip but you ended it just before my favourite bit when Rose goes to help the Major during his shell-shock attack. Very intense & moving scene. Would love to see that too.

  • @Junglehike
    @Junglehike 15 лет назад +17

    And the beautiful scenery of Ireland...! Great movie of all times...!

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp 3 года назад +1

      And the beaches of South Africa...

  • @ellewall625
    @ellewall625 6 лет назад +19

    christopher jones was so handsome. sad to hear of his passing. R.I.P.

  • @jillinthegreen2
    @jillinthegreen2 4 года назад +3

    I love this film! Everything about it! Wonderful!

  • @hulamaiden4297
    @hulamaiden4297 3 года назад +5

    Ala David Lean, all the actors were carefully chosen and perfect for this movie. And Christopher Jones the best of all.... The trauma and pain of war so engraved in his face. They could not have chosen a better actor for Major Doryan. I watched this movie several times and each time, it's heartbreaking. What a movie! And the scenery.... Truly David Lean at his best.... A masterpiece! Thank you David Lean.

    • @PennPearson
      @PennPearson 2 года назад +2

      I agree. Major Doryan was the most interesting character - very well portrayed by Christopher Jones. So much is suggested about his social class, his background and his state of mind by his gestures, his manner and the small amount of dialogue that he has.

  • @CroppyBoy1798
    @CroppyBoy1798  17 лет назад +5

    They dont make movies like it anymore, thats for sure. Glad you enjoyed the clip.

    • @helenwalsh3726
      @helenwalsh3726 4 года назад

      This movie is unforgettable. I first saw it when I was 16. A long time ago. ⚘⚘⚘💖💖💖💖

  • @KMartin730
    @KMartin730 13 лет назад +9

    EXCELLENT Movie!! One of my favorites

  • @Junglehike
    @Junglehike 15 лет назад +10

    I was a teenager when I saw this movie. John Mill's performance was absolutely stunning. The scenery of Ireland is so beautiful. I could never forget this movie!

  • @nickoakley69
    @nickoakley69 17 лет назад +4

    One of my favourite films, much underated.

  • @CroppyBoy1798
    @CroppyBoy1798  17 лет назад +8

    What sparks Doryans shell shock is the kicking which Michael had started to an imaginary tune. Its the timed tapping that gets Doryans, just like the generator at the barracks...this tapping which is akin to artillery shelling. Doryans was supposedly a VC winner, he's displayed as a tragic, lost, emotional wreck, perhaps Lean wanted to get across the point that war isnt always about winning and glory.

  • @Junglehike
    @Junglehike 15 лет назад +3

    I saw this movie when I was a teenager. I love John Mill's performance. It was the BEST..!

  • @threephase69
    @threephase69 17 лет назад +2

    Of all the comments I have read, no one has commented about the music and how wonderful and descriptive it is to each scene. This is my favorite part when the Major is "marching" into town to take over his command.

  • @Maryloohoo2
    @Maryloohoo2 11 лет назад +13

    Out of all the performances in this great movie its Christopher Jones that really makes it worthwhile and gives it heart.

    • @chocolatcats
      @chocolatcats 7 лет назад +1

      and he died sadly of cancer in Los Alamitos, Calif 2014

    • @pbamse
      @pbamse 6 лет назад

      Not true. He was a huge dissapointment to David Lean, who finally decided to dub him because of his flat acting.

    • @DeepScreenAnalysis
      @DeepScreenAnalysis 6 лет назад +4

      pbamse His physical presence is absolutely captivating. It doesn’t matter what he sounded like.

    • @burrenmagic
      @burrenmagic 4 года назад +2

      @@pbamse Not so. That's not an accurate account of Lean's views of him. He found it hard to generate chemistry for Sarah and his behaviour was apparently erratic after hearing about Sharon Tate's passing. The dubbing was minor. Lean knew he had something special and could see the presence of powerful personality from him.

    • @pbamse
      @pbamse 4 года назад

      @@burrenmagic shut up

  • @jaceisaacs
    @jaceisaacs 17 лет назад +4

    My Irsh father took me to see this film alone. I was 13 yrs. old and it was the first time a "M" for Mature audience was used. I never understand why till I got older..stereotyped perhaps some of it but
    the truth lies always on the surface..thanks
    for the vid. and don't change your name we are
    all rebels, thanks for the memory..an Irish
    American woman...

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet 2 года назад +1

    Now, this is how you achieve greatness, as film director 👏

  • @albrazier1
    @albrazier1 14 лет назад +2

    Just flicking by & though could i watch these clips yet again?....just did & still as mesmerizing....Leans much maligned best work!

  • @michaelgaskell2031
    @michaelgaskell2031 3 года назад +2

    How critics panned this film is beyond me

    • @linzieloo1
      @linzieloo1 2 года назад +1

      Shows that critics opinion Have no value

  • @saulpaulus
    @saulpaulus 10 лет назад +18

    RIP Christopher Jones.

  • @claudiaescobar5152
    @claudiaescobar5152 5 лет назад +3

    Una pelicula hermosa!!! Una de mis favoritas! La musica de Maurice Jarre transporta a esos lugares hermosos!

  • @Autostade67
    @Autostade67 3 года назад +2

    If Freddie Young hadn't secured the Academy Award for best cinematography with the title sequence and first hour of this film, then this scene throws down the gauntlet: the lighting on Doryan is unbelievable - especially the slash across his eyes, which would have had to have been thrown upon Christopher Jones with a very gated light. Though I know there were many criticisms - well, lets be honest - condemnations of this film in 1970 (and the debate continues today among film and Lean aficionados), it seems very much a victim of its time (overly long, seemingly out of step with contemporary social life, not hiply edited, no hand held and so on ) and, in the half century since, seems to have gained in esteem (few directors of so-called epics today can command Lean's control of the image as a a highly dense, story telling device, a visual sign echoing back and forth with the multiple meanings of character and theme). Plastically the film is near perfect - a visual, aural, compositional, edited masterwork - but I suppose this attention to aesthetic density is where the criticism tends to erupt vis-a-vis the story. But I ask detractors of the film to consider: does not this film more subtly, more suggestively outpace Ken Russel's much celebrated 'Women in Love' of the same year? Does it not, albeit through a formal, classical narrative style, suggest some of the themes which would later infuse Terrence Malick's 'Days of Heaven'?
    As for the anecdote of the viewer who saw it three nights straight in Hawaii in 1971 - marvellous - I envy your intoxication. Three nights running! Clearly you are someone who fell to the rapture of Lean's visual codes. Keep telling your unique story.

  • @Nemie125
    @Nemie125 17 лет назад +4

    A wonderful thought provoking movie with stunning scenery and some brilliant characters, such as Micheal (played by Mills) and also the priest, who reminds me of one of the corrupt comic priests out of Father Ted! Christopher Jones was so gorgeous, classically handsome and beautiful in this film - very dark, haunted and brooding. My only criticism is that he isn't in it long enough!!!

    • @burrenmagic
      @burrenmagic 4 года назад +3

      100% Such an interesting actor. Pity he didn't feel it more with Sarah.

  • @keedo45
    @keedo45 14 лет назад +5

    Can anyone upload this entire movie? It is a wonderful moviethat I first saw in the show when \i was only 15 years old////Please? Thank you

  • @luciusaquila4326
    @luciusaquila4326 10 лет назад +11

    1:10 is such a remarkable image. Filming was delayed a long time to get the weather backdrop. Paid off.

    • @eiresaoirse3258
      @eiresaoirse3258 5 лет назад

      Yeah David Lean was meant to be a perfectionist...

    • @vogelfrau2425
      @vogelfrau2425 2 года назад

      Ja das hat sich wirklich bezahlt gemacht. Die Farben sind sehr schön.

    • @muranichanain6027
      @muranichanain6027 2 года назад

      The cinematography all through is just off the charts. Up there with Apocalypse Now as the two best films for absolute intensity

    • @linzieloo1
      @linzieloo1 2 года назад

      Was a perfectionist

  • @SandViolet
    @SandViolet 13 лет назад +4

    Maurice Jarre is my favorite, by far, composer of movie scores. He composed my three favorite soundtracks of all time: "The Damned", followed by "Ryan's Daughter" and "A Passage to India". In spite of his nine Oscar nominations and his three Oscars, the Academy, to its everlasting shame, ignored three of his very best scores: "Tha Damned", "Ryan's Daughter" ("Airport", "Cromwell", "Love Story", "Patton", "Sunflower" were considered superior!) and "Is Paris Burning?".

  • @nellygeronimaromanlugo1818
    @nellygeronimaromanlugo1818 Год назад

    POR FAVOR SUBELA COMPLETA!!! ES UNA JOYA cinematográfica y no la consigo en RUclips completa. Gracias

  • @wolfgangwoldt1941
    @wolfgangwoldt1941 6 месяцев назад

    The most amazing thing about Christopher Jones part in this masterpiece was that he learnt of the death of Sharon Tate whilst he was filming this.
    Sarah Miles stated he was totally inept during the love scene in the forest due to his grief. They had been lovers. Sarah Miles stated they slipped him a "Mickey" so he could perform the scene.
    One would never have known from watching that scene.
    For me, the most exquisite love scene in cinematic history 🙏

  • @CroppyBoy1798
    @CroppyBoy1798  16 лет назад +6

    he were like the Major he would have a chance.
    In this scene the Major speaks kindly to michael, inviting him into the truck, where as most others mock him and treat him badly, they dont understand him, or connect with him as I believe the Major did.
    And its all down to the walk! :0D

    • @travisbickle4307
      @travisbickle4307 5 лет назад

      I liked the scene when Major Doryan gives Michael the empty cigarette case. Michael in turn presents the Major with an uncovered arms cache, throwing a German rifle to him. :)

  • @CroppyBoy1798
    @CroppyBoy1798  16 лет назад +3

    I think they are quite similar, a few instances:
    Both have difficulty in walking, Michael because he was born that way, and the Major because of injury. So its something they share, and the first thing that Michael noticed about the Major.
    They are both 'outsiders', Michael due to his illness and the Major due to be British, so on that level they understand each other.
    They both want the same girl, Rose, the Major knows he can have her and Michael knows that he will never have her, only if

  • @anzukadotani8953
    @anzukadotani8953 4 года назад

    the priest in previous scene ,"says dont harbour yr wishes rosie!" .... the the major appears ...what masterful directing

  • @meadudu
    @meadudu 14 лет назад +1

    Muito bom ,pena que não possamos assistir por enteiro ..Para mim é um filme belissimo muito marcante .Parabéns pelo vosso trabalho de poder porpocionar a alguns de nós, a felecidade de rever algumas partes do filme..Muito Obrigado a todos da equipe Maria Eduarda

  • @coralarch
    @coralarch 16 лет назад +4

    My main criticism is the treatment of "Michael" ( who wasn't as simple as he looiked). I have lived in Irish villages and the locals were very kind to the less fortunate, so I find this depiction somewhat strange. But Christopher Jnes----OOOOHHHH! There wasn't enough of him!

  • @daveyvane9431
    @daveyvane9431 9 лет назад +4

    Very similar to General Tanz (Peter O'Toole) in Night of The Generals...even same film composer Maurice Jarre,

  • @stevenfielden8955
    @stevenfielden8955 2 года назад

    Great film - not sure it can be improved upon by any re-make.

  • @CroppyBoy1798
    @CroppyBoy1798  15 лет назад +3

    Not everyone. Michael of course has the dodgy leg, as does the Major, which is something they have in common. The priest has a bit of a limp too, but then Michael is close to him also.

  • @carolfonseca1175
    @carolfonseca1175 3 года назад +1

    Filmaço... inesquecível!

  • @nellygeronimaromanlugo1818
    @nellygeronimaromanlugo1818 Год назад

    Quiero ,deseo volver a ver completa está joya cinematográfica. Por favor subanla
    completá!!!!!!

  • @oswaldolauritoesilva3097
    @oswaldolauritoesilva3097 9 лет назад +1

    UM FILME E UM TEMA QUE SERÃO ETERNOS

  • @dvlarry
    @dvlarry 16 лет назад +1

    Some may say Maurice Jarre's Academy Awards winning score to A Passage To India 'borrowed' elements of the score here.

  • @splurge4749
    @splurge4749 Год назад

    Christopher Jones was born in Jackson, Tennessee.

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet 2 года назад

    Sarah & Mr. Jones ... perfect match ❤💙

  • @AllenbysEyes
    @AllenbysEyes 16 лет назад

    Oh, no! I meant the similarities between the Ryan's Daughter and Passage to India scores. I definitely agree with you on this point.

  • @CroppyBoy1798
    @CroppyBoy1798  16 лет назад

    Ah, ok, haha, boy you're quick!!

  • @nildemarialimaaraujomaria9125
    @nildemarialimaaraujomaria9125 4 года назад +1

    Ótimo

  • @AllenbysEyes
    @AllenbysEyes 16 лет назад

    I don't really see a lot of similarities, myself. Could you point to specific passages from the two?

  • @myoriginalmusic6739
    @myoriginalmusic6739 5 лет назад +1

    I see the major noticed the bloomers on the washing line............ Tally hooooooooooooo

  • @sarwatawad4690
    @sarwatawad4690 9 лет назад +1

    مشاهدة فيلم إبنة ريان كامل مترجم

  • @CroppyBoy1798
    @CroppyBoy1798  17 лет назад

    I'll see what I can do lphmoongazer, watch this space ;-)

  • @robinpittana4401
    @robinpittana4401 4 года назад

    )

  • @LaughinLlama
    @LaughinLlama 15 лет назад +1

    Why does everyone in ths movie have a limp?

    • @linzieloo1
      @linzieloo1 2 года назад +1

      2 people? Not the whole cast, don’t understand your comment

    • @linzieloo1
      @linzieloo1 2 года назад

      Or was it suppose to be a crass joke

  • @teaguebrennan2428
    @teaguebrennan2428 Год назад

    I wanna know how did they acheive Sarah Miles chopped up hair at the end it looked totally real😱