Billhook is a iconic weapon in southern part of India. It used in fighting, agriculture, to cut trees and so on. I would love to see Indian (southern part) billhook(thirupachi aruva=. திருப்பாச்சி அருவா) in this show. It is a weapon used by marudhu brothers to fight against British during the period of British India.
@James Lisfrank Now I get your point, but my idea was merely a joke to begin with, and you just took it a bit too seriously. And my explanation was just trying to make it clear that I was just messing around, because I already know Doug is not a smith, but rather a weapons expert, ya know.
"Ray your blade is perfectly accurate to the blades they used back then. It's sharp enough to not only decapitate but cut through a pig like water. It's a tough steel that barely had any damage at all and even with that damage it was still sharper than Josh's. However Josh had the cooler looking blade so he wins."
@@Aaroncarter95it only took that damage cuz it had a finer edge and a design that allows more effective force transfer Remember the crusader sword episode, where the runner up Brian had an excellently crafted blade with better balance but with dull spots , but the winner Dave had made one of the sharpest swords on the show and he actually took a singular deep roll , Ray's didn't, it was a shiny spot , and unlike Dave's crusader sword this sword was very well balanced and ,as good a cutter But it lost , this is one of the few times i've seen such terrible decisions
Josh's blade seems like heavy and more of a two-handed weapon while Ray's panabas is closer to the real deal. Remember that this blade is also used in agriculture and cutting thru dense tropical forests even. A guy or a warrior wielding Josh's blade wouldn't last long before he will be exhausted. Ray's panabas on the other hand looks swift and deadly!
well the test is different they expect the weapon to kill not to cut grass but if details is the only thing they are talking about ray's panabas really looks like a common panabas in the philippines
Good point, i think the researchers got the spec wrong for this weapon, the one primary source image they showed and the comments from Filipino viewers here seem to suggest it's more of a lightweight weapon/tool.
Ray's panabas is more accurately arched, even looked like Filipino-made. You can tell it's a more effective design when it goes through the whole carcass in a single swing.
Ray's blade is probably the sharpest blade ever featured in this show...I've seen other blade cut the pig with one stroke but Ray's Panabas cuts it like paper...
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Im a filipino and trust me, ray’s panabas is more accurate. Imagine how fast he was able to finish that! That itself should made him the winner. When filipinos created the panabas they didnt really cared about the design, all they want is the reliability of the blade to kill, which made rays blade more accurate
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ray is a MASTER of his craft. He should be the main judge. He has more knowledge and experience than anyone else who's been on the show, or hosts the show.
Ray is every one's blacksmithing grandpa lol. Seriously he's amazing, he was more than happy to let the young kid walk away with the win. Ray knows what he can do and if he had felt the need he coulda put more work into that blade and won easily
The Panabas, like most traditional weapons of Philippine ethnicities, only became weapons when the need arises. The Panabas was named after the way it was supposed to be used: the root word "tabas" only varied slightly in meaning across Luzon, but rural communities used the Panabas to clear a heavily vegetated area, or in sugarcane farming, to easily and cleanly cut sugarcanes during the harvest. After all, "tabas" itself means cut cleanly as if shaping or designing something.
@ somehow you know more than fellow countrymen who have access to historians and museums. Care to bite more than you can chew? We also have panabas here in Luzon. Along with the kris/kalis, these are somewhat common weapons to have all over the archipelago during pre-colonial times. Now, who's making stuff up?
our ancestors are good in making bladed-weapons and even cannons. i hope they could also have featured the Barongs, Kampilan etc. that mostly came and forged in the Mindanao areas. i do hope that i could have a collection of those including the kris, kalis and panabas. many of us were amazed with the katanas while forgetting that our own blades are also good and reliable too. :)
Ray has such a good heart. He didn't get mad when he lost and that shows how proud he feels for the winners. I mean he should've won but the judges made their decision
Im a Filipino and i used the panabas when cutting ipil ipil tree used for firewood for cooking. And i have to say, Ray's panabas is accurately filipino. Its design, functionality, and specially the weight because average size filipino will most likely want handy panabas rather than a big panabas that will not burden them from carrying to the mountains. RAY i have to say is the winner.
Panabas in the Philippines is the farmer's best friend, not for killing (though it can, for snakes) but for cleaning tall grasses and weeds, by the way, Ray's panabas is more like ours.
They should have declared this one a draw, and split the 10K between them. That old man made his sword in no time flat...and if aesthetics had been at the top of the list, he'd have taken another few seconds, and made it look like a million bucks. I felt badly for him.
I never knew that there was a show like this, the Panabas is my family's weapon siegel , it has been like that since my native ancestors accepted Christianity and got baptized under the surname Villanueva. Thanks for including this weapon in your show. Really appreciated it.
Appearance wise, Ray's panabas is close to being physically accurate. It also cuts the pig like soft butter. He may not be the winner, but it's nice to hear that he had fun making the blade
This is a competition and not a participation trophy event. This is why kids today lack diligence and dedication. Any effort is good enough since the rewards will be split anyway. In my experience of sports, the really nice trophy was turned into many Chinese mass production items. Just so the other teams didn’t feel left out.
@@Tibovl I fixed it for you. I often reply in process of other tasks. Dont always get around to writing an essay. Todays standard of an essay not the original kind.
his weapon also had a little contact damage tho. Both were good but somtimes that's competition for you and ray was a good sport who just wanted to have a good time and he did
I agree, panabas here in the philippines should not be heavy coz it is use to cut grasses. and besides, Ray's panabas looks exactly the panabas here in the philippines..
Dude, panabas is still used till now especially in rice fields. It is used to clean the wild grasses on the sides of rice fields. Imagine in just a single swing, thin grasses splits. Ray should have win this. That's exactly what it looks like.
In Southern Western Philippines particularly in Maguindanao we have what we call "Binwaya Panabas". With slightly slimmer blade but with large and sharpend tip/head with shape derived from a crocodile's head-hence the name Binwaya.
I'm a Filipino. My father has many panabas in our province. We used it to chop wood, slice meat, and other agricultural activities. I like these two guys are having fun. Great sport to these two guys! Good job!
Same 😁😊. My grandfather owned a panabas and we're in charge at chopping wood 😁😊. Watching this two making the Panabas is really fun while reminiscing about my childhood while my grandfather is still alive 😁😊. Proud to be Filipino 🇵🇭🇵🇭
@@sidjiiimenudo842 Unfortunately I've met a lot of these kinds of idiots in the RUclips comments section. It's a comments section because people are free to post comments related to the video, or to another person's comment. The fact that some people are posting "no one asked" in a comments section where posts are mostly unsolicited just speaks of how low that person's IQ is.
Agree ray should have won. He only lost because the judge like Josh design. Pretty sure they didn't care about design when They're cutting off people head.
Ray panaba's was so sharp it took one strike to cut the pork spine dealing a clean cut i was so impress and survive all test both wapon are amazing but ray stay with the original desing he made an exelent work
Ray for Honorary Lead Elder Blacksmith of Forged In Fire (honorary everybody's grandpa), you can tell he just really genuinely enjoys his work. Love to see it.
The size, weight and template Ray made is more accurate for a Filipino warrior. It should be easy to wield , sharp and durable. Nevertheless, both are very skillful blacksmith.
My father told me he was harvesting when he was a teen using a panabas and it hit his foot, bloody. Now I seen how dangerous it is. Modernsafe panabas we use today in gardens looks like a small gulok almost rectangular and not so sharp but it serves a lot of purpose. I wonder if anyone still forges killer panabas in Philippines. This is awesome
@Nick Crawford I genuinely wonder if the judges review the forging footage we see before testing, and if there are something like Hidden points/penalties based on the contestants behavior.. So for instance, assuming both blades performed equally well in all tests, and assuming they were both of equal appearance.. Hypothetical: Contestant 1 had a catastrophic blade failure day 3 and was forced to remake from scratch with only 2 days instead of 5. Contestant 2 made everything perfectly on their first try, finished on day 2, and rather than refining/improving the design, they did no improvements over their two days of free time while their opponent were working hard. At this point, technically both smith's have put the same 2 days of effort into their final product. All else being equal, would the rushed 2 day project be held in higher regard for what they accomplished in the limited time? Or could it be penalized for the first attempts failure? Both are valid judgement criteria if used, I just wonder the weight each is given, if any.
@@MetrohMan Don't need to be a scientist to know that's how things work now. That's how Kamala Harris was nominated right? So the question is how big is your box?
I remember this when my grandmom use it to trim tall grasses... She told me it was owned by my great great grandfather, her grandfather who once lived in the island of Luzon where it is popular. The southern islands of Visayas and Mindanao don't usually use it because of its own cutting blade called "lagaraw" and "sundang."
Panabas is a Moro weapon it is the derivative of the word 'tabas' Which means to chop off, panabas means used to chop off. This literally came from Mindanao. Misinformation.
Yep I noticed how popular it is in Luzon too, I've been in Batangas Mindoro, Laguna and it is panabas o pang-tabas we use. How about in northern Luzon?
@@batanguenongmangyan2877 Very true... The Moros are known to be very good traders in the south east... they are brilliant smiths thus swords and farming equipments are one of their best trades... aside from fabric of course...
Pati ang corny ng dahilan ng judge kay ray haha putcha handle at design sa likod ng blade putcha hahaah ano gusto nila bago pumatay magandahan muna ung papatayin sa panabas🤣
Agreed. The old guy's blade needed one cut to slice through the pig; the young guy's blade needed two. Imho it was clear that the oldtimer made the better blade...
@@vildanetemi6186 its more along the lines of being the same general weapon... in this case, a panaba. the tiny details like art and stuff of the sort is up to the individual blacksmith... either way the old man still wins in my books... straight up made a blade in a day and chilled out for the rest of the time he had left, and it was STILL a better functioning weapon than the guy who ended up winning
I agree. The other one was brutish. Its like comparing american pizza to italian pizza. Rays was done right, the other one came with green peas and chicken.
Kinda nice to see both panabas be so impressive and both competitors be so sportmanlike about their competition. I could easily see Ray winning as well. I sincerely believe that this is one time when the judges wish they could have both win.
You dont understand though. The judges want above and beyond the expectations for how it should look. They appreciate more complex designs that dont interfere with the performance of the weapon. Josh wins
they also should’ve taken into consideration what the blade was for and it was also good for beheading and rays chopped a torso with ease and the guy hit a rivet on the second helmet which probably caused the micro blemish
Yeah, it was a little thinner than the first so it was a smaller area so the cut looked beautiful. I do think Doug's aim should have been the same between both pigs but human error is gonna happen.
if only ray placed long handle for his panabas, that would be perfect design for daily use and even for combat. We use the panabas for everthing, cut grasses, collecting fire wood, butching, and when we are tired, they are also good as a cane.hehhe
Sadly Ray's Panabas was aesthetically more accurate to a real one especially the length of the blade and handle and josh's is more like a curved over size Golok literally no one uses that kind of design here in the Philippines.
I'm a Filipino ang my father have a Panabas. It's literally Sharp that it can cut metals and stainless. We also have a sword called "Criss" Hope it will be featured in this competition
Ray is darn good with the sharpness of it. Though I feel it's a bit short for a panabas. Josh's, on the other hand, looks too heavy for a panabas. But they are both sharp. Those things can cut. I wonder how my ancestors feel about it.
*Spoilers* I'm surprised Josh took the win because Ray's cut through the pig in a single chop, but Ray's did take more damage on the strength test and Josh's design was more accurate.
@@thomasvardy2068 killtest is killtest. As we saw his panabas will kill, in 2cuts but will he didnt fail a task. Strenght test Has been past perfecy by him, when his oponent little "failed"
Adding to that, the littelest of edge deformation on Ray's blade may also have been an influence. With that, I haven't seen this close of a matchup ever I think
This kind of result also makes me wonder if the judges review the footage of the smith's like we get to see before hand.. If so, I could easily see the reason for the loss being the wasted time and relaxation rather than trying to improve the final product
@@apollohateshisdayjob9606 That's a good one! I am curious about that as well:) Just hope they would show more about the processing and smithing, instead of starting at day 2, complete sword, suddenyl day 4, quench and finishing up. Like what happened in the other days? In general, not specific to this episode
@@micosemana7298 itak is more of a chopper and reassembles a jungle knife but longer in size. Panabas was meant for cutting and slicing because of that curve. It's like our own version of the saber.
I so badly wish for once they'll give the 10K to both blacksmiths Both of them deserve this so much and it's heartbreaking so see the devastation in Ray's eyes. Both are good men may God bless them!
@@bigrockbro5141 ofc, we share the same words but slightly different spelling since one of our ancestors are indonesians. e.g: Four Bahasa Indonesia: “Empat” Tagalog: “Apat” Five Bahasa Indonesia: “Lima” Tagalog: “Lima” Six Bahasa Indonesia: “Enam” Tagalog: “Anim” Forty Bahasa Indonesia: “Empat puluh” Tagalog: “Apatnapu” Fifty Bahasa Indonesia: “Lima puluh” Tagalog: “Limampu”
@@rubens.4116 if you look where both blades hit on the helmet his blade hit right on one of the rivets. That tiny fold was probably it coming into contact with a denser piece of metal.
In Bicol, I usually see it being used for Niyog(coconut nut) and after several times on hammering it on the Niyog, it's still freakin sharp. Like it can stil cut a paper.
My lolo (grandfather), a Filipino-Ilongo native used to forge this kind of weapon, which we called 'tabas' and at the same time a basic farm tool . All he wants to achieve is the sharpness and the desired weight of the blade and I think Ray's work have it. Tabas or panabas is actually light in weight but sharp. In that way it is more efficient in battle and farming works.
Both weapons performed exceptionally well. I would be proud to own either one. Too bad the show keeps both weapons. I would like to buy the losing weapon if I could.
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Since when did they start winning because of the way the blade looks,other than performance. The old dudes 1 chopped that pig carcus
Greatest show of all time
Billhook is a iconic weapon in southern part of India. It used in fighting, agriculture, to cut trees and so on. I would love to see Indian (southern part) billhook(thirupachi aruva=. திருப்பாச்சி அருவா) in this show. It is a weapon used by marudhu brothers to fight against British during the period of British India.
@@lcatchmylazerl9245 I was thinking the same thing. Maybe because he didn't take 4 days, they punished him for making it look so easy. 😂
the old guy had better weapon
Ray is so good at blacksmithing, I honestly believe he should be a judge.
Did he just finish his blade in 2 days?!
RoyalGecko 1.
That would totally displace the narcissistic judges and hosts that need screen time to feed their ego.
@@royalgecko5683 it was ultimately his downfall by not taking the time to decorate his blade
He’s almost as good as me
I want to see Ray vs one of the judges, the speed of this man is unreal
Well, but if he were to challenge Doug, he would stand absolutely no chance.
Exactly!
@James Lisfrank Well, but still.
@James Lisfrank Well, then. Just wait for a video about the two and judge for yourself.
@James Lisfrank Now I get your point, but my idea was merely a joke to begin with, and you just took it a bit too seriously. And my explanation was just trying to make it clear that I was just messing around, because I already know Doug is not a smith, but rather a weapons expert, ya know.
Ray's panabas is historically accurate from every perspective design, length ,finish ,sharpness . The judges misguided that forge
Yeah they chose based off some details that had nothing to do with the blade being authentic, or it doing it’s job. Ray got robbed flat out
"Ray your blade is perfectly accurate to the blades they used back then. It's sharp enough to not only decapitate but cut through a pig like water. It's a tough steel that barely had any damage at all and even with that damage it was still sharper than Josh's. However Josh had the cooler looking blade so he wins."
You guys are just haters.
I even thought that ray will win
@@Aaroncarter95it only took that damage cuz it had a finer edge and a design that allows more effective force transfer
Remember the crusader sword episode, where the runner up Brian had an excellently crafted blade with better balance but with dull spots , but the winner Dave had made one of the sharpest swords on the show and he actually took a singular deep roll , Ray's didn't, it was a shiny spot , and unlike Dave's crusader sword this sword was very well balanced and ,as good a cutter
But it lost , this is one of the few times i've seen such terrible decisions
Josh's blade seems like heavy and more of a two-handed weapon while Ray's panabas is closer to the real deal. Remember that this blade is also used in agriculture and cutting thru dense tropical forests even. A guy or a warrior wielding Josh's blade wouldn't last long before he will be exhausted. Ray's panabas on the other hand looks swift and deadly!
well the test is different they expect the weapon to kill not to cut grass
but if details is the only thing they are talking about ray's panabas really looks like a common panabas in the philippines
@@gioseraspi6669 Ray's panabas cut cleaner in the pig than Josh's. It would kill better on the battlefield
@@jerryalbus1492 It also cut the bag cleaner, if you'll notice. Josh's took extra strands with it; Ray's didn't.
Panabas is and should be small and handy that's why I'd pick ray's build. But the looks of it isn't Filipino'ish that's why it didn't cut to win
Good point, i think the researchers got the spec wrong for this weapon, the one primary source image they showed and the comments from Filipino viewers here seem to suggest it's more of a lightweight weapon/tool.
Ray's panabas is more accurately arched, even looked like Filipino-made. You can tell it's a more effective design when it goes through the whole carcass in a single swing.
Yeah it went through that like butter was very impressive
Quite Useful & Deadly.
Ray's blade is probably the sharpest blade ever featured in this show...I've seen other blade cut the pig with one stroke but Ray's Panabas cuts it like paper...
The blade design is a very big part of it. Panabas are excellent cutters
Check the the guy from Alaska templar sword. That was insanely sharp
Yes
that was weird after watching so many chapters. this is crazy
@@William-Tyndale yep it's what the name means too lol "chopper" or "something used to chop"
*Fun Facts about Forged in Fire*
1. The meat is donated to a wolf 🐺 sanctuary.
2. Doug says "keel" rather than "kill" despite not having a strong Filipino accent.
3. Both J and Dave Baker have been defeated in Beat the Judges comps; Ben is the only undefeated judge.
4. Wil and Doug are not smiths, but have done some smithing to better understand just how tough it is!
J lose to his master, so I think it is fair.
Ben has just about every life hack possible for making a sword. It's no wonder he's undefeated.
You mean to say he's actually saying "kill" whenever he says "Keel"? 😮
@@grumpy_grimalkin Doug intentionally says keel
Doug says keal keep everyone alive
Im a filipino and trust me, ray’s panabas is more accurate. Imagine how fast he was able to finish that! That itself should made him the winner. When filipinos created the panabas they didnt really cared about the design, all they want is the reliability of the blade to kill, which made rays blade more accurate
Tama ka dyan boss.. 😁
We Filipinos depend more on its reliability rather than its design. For me, the old timer should be the winner.
Tama
He even tried thr raw hide. I wish he wouldnt have broken it and finished the rawhide wrap. I bet that would have pushed him over the edge
Oo tama 🇵🇭🇵🇭
Yeah Bro
Josh wins the judges while Ray wins the pride and originality of the Filipinos
True!
Pilipino knows who really win in that competition . Design can't help improve sharpness and skills in the battle Field .
yes!
@@chou-colate1379 Pilipinos might have the best blades and knife
Ray is win for me because I know the design of panabas
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Ray is a MASTER of his craft. He should be the main judge. He has more knowledge and experience than anyone else who's been on the show, or hosts the show.
Ray, you have the Filipino's vote and respect. In our eyes, you're the winner.
Why you need to speak to us some of us really don't care who will win
@@mr.nothing008 are you Ray? you arent so stfu
@@mr.nothing008 who cares if he speak. He likes to speak, let him be you weab.
@@mr.nothing008 chill kid
@@mr.nothing008 we don't care ur comment
Plot twist: Ray lost so the judges can keep his sword.
Exactly dude😄
I thought they keep both swords. I could be wrong, but I could have sworn both smith's gives their blades to the judges
HAHAHA!!!
Yes
It's a Axe
Ray is every one's blacksmithing grandpa lol. Seriously he's amazing, he was more than happy to let the young kid walk away with the win. Ray knows what he can do and if he had felt the need he coulda put more work into that blade and won easily
Ray's Panabas is one of the best blade's ever forged in this show. Even the handle followed the graceful curve of the blade.
The Panabas, like most traditional weapons of Philippine ethnicities, only became weapons when the need arises. The Panabas was named after the way it was supposed to be used: the root word "tabas" only varied slightly in meaning across Luzon, but rural communities used the Panabas to clear a heavily vegetated area, or in sugarcane farming, to easily and cleanly cut sugarcanes during the harvest. After all, "tabas" itself means cut cleanly as if shaping or designing something.
@ somehow you know more than fellow countrymen who have access to historians and museums. Care to bite more than you can chew?
We also have panabas here in Luzon. Along with the kris/kalis, these are somewhat common weapons to have all over the archipelago during pre-colonial times. Now, who's making stuff up?
our ancestors are good in making bladed-weapons and even cannons. i hope they could also have featured the Barongs, Kampilan etc. that mostly came and forged in the Mindanao areas. i do hope that i could have a collection of those including the kris, kalis and panabas. many of us were amazed with the katanas while forgetting that our own blades are also good and reliable too. :)
i hope they would also feature the " sanggot "
In Malay - Indo language, it mean the chopper
Ray has such a good heart. He didn't get mad when he lost and that shows how proud he feels for the winners. I mean he should've won but the judges made their decision
Ray's took minor damage in the strength test that's what did it.
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"He got the money and I got the fun"
-Ray
True sportsman
Ray is one serious blacksmith, chilling in the hammock when the opponent is still figuring things out
Im a Filipino and i used the panabas when cutting ipil ipil tree used for firewood for cooking. And i have to say, Ray's panabas is accurately filipino. Its design, functionality, and specially the weight because average size filipino will most likely want handy panabas rather than a big panabas that will not burden them from carrying to the mountains. RAY i have to say is the winner.
Panabas in the Philippines is the farmer's best friend, not for killing (though it can, for snakes) but for cleaning tall grasses and weeds, by the way, Ray's panabas is more like ours.
It was actually for killing disguised as a farming tool so that enemies or invaders would not be able to discern a warrior from a farmer.
Nope!
@@COBRAC0MMANDER false, just like a kunai, panabas is a farming tool
@@ruqiu2257 did you learn history?
@@COBRAC0MMANDER are you a filipino?haha google is not always right kid
They should have declared this one a draw, and split the 10K between them. That old man made his sword in no time flat...and if aesthetics had been at the top of the list, he'd have taken another few seconds, and made it look like a million bucks. I felt badly for him.
He won the votes of Filipinos. If he ever read the comments he would definitely feel like he won.
Totally agree with you. It should have been a draw or should have at least weighted and see which sword was lighter, you don't want a heavy sword.
I never knew that there was a show like this, the Panabas is my family's weapon siegel , it has been like that since my native ancestors accepted Christianity and got baptized under the surname Villanueva. Thanks for including this weapon in your show. Really appreciated it.
Haloy ?
There are very few times where people think the judges got it wrong and this is one of them.
Love the skill and talent that is shown on this program.
Appearance wise, Ray's panabas is close to being physically accurate. It also cuts the pig like soft butter.
He may not be the winner, but it's nice to hear that he had fun making the blade
@ren bao who cares about the design ray's panabas is much deadlier
I like ray’s panabas more. It gives that same vibe as the katana, a simple, elegant yet deadly looking weapon.
Ray is legendary, his blade was great and he made it quick with some time to spare and gave himself time to relax.
In episodes like this I wish they equally divide the prize. The other guy totally deserved it too.
His design doesnt look like what was showed at all, it looked like a glaive without a long handle.
that's fair but also defeats the point in having a competition at that point
This is a competition and not a participation trophy event. This is why kids today lack diligence and dedication. Any effort is good enough since the rewards will be split anyway. In my experience of sports, the really nice trophy was turned into many Chinese mass production items. Just so the other teams didn’t feel left out.
@@1014p You complain about "the kids" but you can't even write a proper sentence...
@@Tibovl I fixed it for you. I often reply in process of other tasks. Dont always get around to writing an essay. Todays standard of an essay not the original kind.
But Ray's sword cut the pig in 1 shot... I would choose Ray's weapon if I had to fight for my life...
Looks very light too and easier to wield
his weapon also had a little contact damage tho. Both were good but somtimes that's competition for you and ray was a good sport who just wanted to have a good time and he did
I agree, panabas here in the philippines should not be heavy coz it is use to cut grasses. and besides, Ray's panabas looks exactly the panabas here in the philippines..
A kill is a kill, both would be fine to defemd yourself with
That can just be a lucky strike dependent on there he the spine at.
Dude, panabas is still used till now especially in rice fields. It is used to clean the wild grasses on the sides of rice fields. Imagine in just a single swing, thin grasses splits. Ray should have win this. That's exactly what it looks like.
Off all the episode i have watched, these two bladesmiths made the most lethal sword. Best episode.
i honestly like the old man's blade. I'm a filipino and that same blade is what I always wield whenever I am at my uncle's land. feels powerful
This is one of those episodes where you can really tell both contestants WANT that win
ray is the type of kid to finish the asignment at school after it got announced
and still get 100%
Soo... me?
That's me before quarantine. I got effing lazy doing online classes.
Hahaha
In Southern Western Philippines particularly in Maguindanao we have what we call "Binwaya Panabas". With slightly slimmer blade but with large and sharpend tip/head with shape derived from a crocodile's head-hence the name Binwaya.
This is one of those episodes where they both knocked it out of the park. Makes you wonder what ultimately made the judges decide on Josh.
Only thing I can think of is that tiny chip in the toughness test
More flair in the design.
I'm a Filipino. My father has many panabas in our province. We used it to chop wood, slice meat, and other agricultural activities.
I like these two guys are having fun. Great sport to these two guys! Good job!
Same 😁😊. My grandfather owned a panabas and we're in charge at chopping wood 😁😊. Watching this two making the Panabas is really fun while reminiscing about my childhood while my grandfather is still alive 😁😊.
Proud to be Filipino 🇵🇭🇵🇭
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@@zmbman1122 no one asked for you to comment “no one asked” 🙄
@@zmbman1122 what's your deal?
@@sidjiiimenudo842 Unfortunately I've met a lot of these kinds of idiots in the RUclips comments section. It's a comments section because people are free to post comments related to the video, or to another person's comment. The fact that some people are posting "no one asked" in a comments section where posts are mostly unsolicited just speaks of how low that person's IQ is.
Ray’s panaba’s is really look like the Philippine panabas. I’m filipino, I know what is the best work. My vote is RAY!
But Ray’s blade although only took a tiny bit of damage, still took damage where Josh’s didn’t. Probly played a factor in the judging too
Agree ray should have won. He only lost because the judge like Josh design. Pretty sure they didn't care about design when They're cutting off people head.
Ray panaba's was so sharp it took one strike to cut the pork spine dealing a clean cut i was so impress and survive all test both wapon are amazing but ray stay with the original desing he made an exelent work
Agree. We have that one in our house. previously owned by my great grandfather
Me too brotha andito Ka din ba para SA mga dugo Ng dummy XD
Ray for Honorary Lead Elder Blacksmith of Forged In Fire (honorary everybody's grandpa), you can tell he just really genuinely enjoys his work. Love to see it.
The size, weight and template Ray made is more accurate for a Filipino warrior. It should be easy to wield , sharp and durable. Nevertheless, both are very skillful blacksmith.
My father told me he was harvesting when he was a teen using a panabas and it hit his foot, bloody. Now I seen how dangerous it is. Modernsafe panabas we use today in gardens looks like a small gulok almost rectangular and not so sharp but it serves a lot of purpose. I wonder if anyone still forges killer panabas in Philippines. This is awesome
"Time to relax a little bit"... said no-one ever on Forged in Fire
Ray could've easily won had he used his spare time to his advantage.
@Nick Crawford I genuinely wonder if the judges review the forging footage we see before testing, and if there are something like Hidden points/penalties based on the contestants behavior..
So for instance, assuming both blades performed equally well in all tests, and assuming they were both of equal appearance..
Hypothetical: Contestant 1 had a catastrophic blade failure day 3 and was forced to remake from scratch with only 2 days instead of 5.
Contestant 2 made everything perfectly on their first try, finished on day 2, and rather than refining/improving the design, they did no improvements over their two days of free time while their opponent were working hard.
At this point, technically both smith's have put the same 2 days of effort into their final product.
All else being equal, would the rushed 2 day project be held in higher regard for what they accomplished in the limited time?
Or could it be penalized for the first attempts failure?
Both are valid judgement criteria if used, I just wonder the weight each is given, if any.
No! Ray would've won of he was black, using the black previledge card
@@kinjotao1 tf... you need some help bro
@@kinjotao1 how can you be dumb enough to think that it was a good idea to comment that? Honestly though, how little does your brain work?
@@MetrohMan Don't need to be a scientist to know that's how things work now. That's how Kamala Harris was nominated right? So the question is how big is your box?
I remember this when my grandmom use it to trim tall grasses... She told me it was owned by my great great grandfather, her grandfather who once lived in the island of Luzon where it is popular. The southern islands of Visayas and Mindanao don't usually use it because of its own cutting blade called "lagaraw" and "sundang."
Panabas is a Moro weapon it is the derivative of the word 'tabas' Which means to chop off, panabas means used to chop off. This literally came from Mindanao. Misinformation.
@@k.3004 I did not say the weapon originated in Luzon... I said "popular." Misread.
Yep I noticed how popular it is in Luzon too, I've been in Batangas Mindoro, Laguna and it is panabas o pang-tabas we use. How about in northern Luzon?
@@batanguenongmangyan2877 Very true... The Moros are known to be very good traders in the south east... they are brilliant smiths thus swords and farming equipments are one of their best trades... aside from fabric of course...
@@nikkogorne7202 you literally said its not used in visayas or mindanao. sundang is a catch all term for knives and cutting blades.
With all of those tests, I honestly thought that Ray's sword was gonna win.
Pati ang corny ng dahilan ng judge kay ray haha putcha handle at design sa likod ng blade putcha hahaah ano gusto nila bago pumatay magandahan muna ung papatayin sa panabas🤣
Such a good competition, two talented people going toe to toe. Love it.
This has to be the most wholesome episode of Forged in Fire
I thought it was more "half-some" after seeing the pig.
4:56 Ray just said the entire comment section 😂
“I AM THE FORGED IN FIRE CHAMPION” sounded so much like Zuko
Ray in the finals: "I just enjoy the competition"
Meanwhile the "I'm here to win" guys never actually win.
I loved all the filipino weapons they made on this show. Each and every one had simple designs but they were all very deadly. 👀✨
How many Filipino weapons have they shown? I have watched 2 so far - gulok and panabas.
@@wavemaker2077 Theres the Kampilan and the Ginunting.
Panabas, kampilan, gulok, Kris, ginunting, headhunters axe, bolo
No way, the old man should have won imo.
Agreed. The old guy's blade needed one cut to slice through the pig; the young guy's blade needed two.
Imho it was clear that the oldtimer made the better blade...
Yeah also on the cut test the young guy panaba pulled a few long strings while the old Man panaba did a cleaner cut without dragging many strings
Абсолютно согласен с вами друзья, yes!
MUST BE SAME DESIGN IDIOT
@@vildanetemi6186 its more along the lines of being the same general weapon... in this case, a panaba. the tiny details like art and stuff of the sort is up to the individual blacksmith... either way the old man still wins in my books... straight up made a blade in a day and chilled out for the rest of the time he had left, and it was STILL a better functioning weapon than the guy who ended up winning
4:56 ''Doug said it would kill. As with to E (keel).''
Legend
Ray should have won. His design is what a Panabas should look like. Lol “History”
I agree. The other one was brutish. Its like comparing american pizza to italian pizza. Rays was done right, the other one came with green peas and chicken.
Anyone can make a simple looking weapon. What they were looking for is something that looks better and is still a good weapon
To be fair it's a contest, the bit of extra effort is justified.
plus it's an american show, americans want a bit more size lol
Totoo...
Kinda nice to see both panabas be so impressive and both competitors be so sportmanlike about their competition.
I could easily see Ray winning as well. I sincerely believe that this is one time when the judges wish they could have both win.
wow they use Filipino panabas.
Ray should win ..easycut
4:09 nice pronunciation on the panabas. props to sir doug
Ray wins. Why? His panabas is just like the panabas were using here in the Philippines. Simple yet deadly.
You dont understand though. The judges want above and beyond the expectations for how it should look. They appreciate more complex designs that dont interfere with the performance of the weapon. Josh wins
they also should’ve taken into consideration what the blade was for and it was also good for beheading and rays chopped a torso with ease and the guy hit a rivet on the second helmet which probably caused the micro blemish
Rays creation, also embodies the intent of an actual Pinoy, were to wield it in ancient times. Simple, very deadly.
@@angheloobiena944 Josh's design is just as simple a design for the blade. Both will cut a head in one go. (The pig cut was all on Doug not the blade)
You don't look like someone who'd own a panabas, let alone a bolo.
"he got the money,i got the fun" -Ray.
That second pig that Doug cut was amazing and awesome to watch. Greatest show ever.
Yeah, it was a little thinner than the first so it was a smaller area so the cut looked beautiful. I do think Doug's aim should have been the same between both pigs but human error is gonna happen.
Thanks for highlighting one of our traditional blade..watching from the philippines..
if only ray placed long handle for his panabas, that would be perfect design for daily use and even for combat.
We use the panabas for everthing, cut grasses, collecting fire wood, butching, and when we are tired, they are also good as a cane.hehhe
7:56
The way he says that is just so wholesome you can see that he is so happy :)
You know it's a crazy good episode when the judges are forced to look at cosmetics to determine a winner. Such a close finale.
Sadly Ray's Panabas was aesthetically more accurate to a real one especially the length of the blade and handle and josh's is more like a curved over size Golok literally no one uses that kind of design here in the Philippines.
I'm a Filipino ang my father have a Panabas.
It's literally Sharp that it can cut metals and stainless.
We also have a sword called "Criss"
Hope it will be featured in this competition
Doug's accuracy on the second pig chop on the exact same spot using Josh's is impressive
Best episode ever. Would love to see the entire lineup of Weapons of Moroland forged and tested. And of course, the balisong. Mabuhay.
Me: "Panuhbuhs, huh"
*mentions it came from the Philippines"
"AY PUCHA PANAHBUS LANG PALA AKALA KO KUNG ANO"
one of the hardest and most unique blades ive seen these bladesmiths make. mad resect to them
nice joke ;)
"Your empanadas will keel"
Now I'm hungry
Imagine burrito chucks
Your enchilada will keel
🥟🥟🥟🥟
LMAO
I was half expecting josh to cut the judges at the end out of excitement
Ray is darn good with the sharpness of it. Though I feel it's a bit short for a panabas. Josh's, on the other hand, looks too heavy for a panabas. But they are both sharp. Those things can cut. I wonder how my ancestors feel about it.
I wanted to see them making an "itak", "bolo", and "balisong", other set of blades that we Filipinos are proud of.
Including the Igorot headhunting Axe.
The design eas so unique.
did you know that the Pinoy sword Barong was even made the inspiration for Count Dooku's light saber in Star Wars?
Giant Balisong!
Yeah true
Butterfly knife or Balisong not originally from the Philippines
This was the most wholesome episode ive ever seen, both contestants seemed so nice.
Man, these guys were so friendly, best contestants I've seen for sure
Both of them are really good tbh i mean both blade cut so gracefully
I think the same, but lotta people in the comment's can't see that :(
"He got the money and I got the fun" 👌🏽
*Spoilers*
I'm surprised Josh took the win because Ray's cut through the pig in a single chop, but Ray's did take more damage on the strength test and Josh's design was more accurate.
I agree, but I have a feeling that Josh's kill test hit more bone, which meant it needed an extra hit! Just a guess.
@@thomasvardy2068 killtest is killtest. As we saw his panabas will kill, in 2cuts but will he didnt fail a task. Strenght test Has been past perfecy by him, when his oponent little "failed"
Adding to that, the littelest of edge deformation on Ray's blade may also have been an influence. With that, I haven't seen this close of a matchup ever I think
This kind of result also makes me wonder if the judges review the footage of the smith's like we get to see before hand..
If so, I could easily see the reason for the loss being the wasted time and relaxation rather than trying to improve the final product
@@apollohateshisdayjob9606 That's a good one! I am curious about that as well:)
Just hope they would show more about the processing and smithing, instead of starting at day 2, complete sword, suddenyl day 4, quench and finishing up. Like what happened in the other days?
In general, not specific to this episode
We still using this here the Philippines but more on agricultural now
Itak? 😅
@@micosemana7298 itak is more of a chopper and reassembles a jungle knife but longer in size. Panabas was meant for cutting and slicing because of that curve. It's like our own version of the saber.
Bolo
Panabas tūbo
@@OneShotNick92 pan tabas hahaha
3:08 that's a full strength test right there 😂
"he got the money, I got the fun."
You did great as well!❤️
I like how ray's panabas looks like. It felt real. And real sharp too.
I so badly wish for once they'll give the 10K to both blacksmiths
Both of them deserve this so much and it's heartbreaking so see the devastation in Ray's eyes. Both are good men may God bless them!
This was the toughest fight ever seen in this show. Both were the best
"he got the money and I got the fun" words of a real champ!
I love rays design and swiftness
Panabas literally translates to "for cutting" in English.
Trust me my great grandfather has two, hangin on the wall of our uncestral house.
Really? so we Indonesian just call it penebas
@@bigrockbro5141 ofc, we share the same words but slightly different spelling since one of our ancestors are indonesians. e.g:
Four
Bahasa Indonesia: “Empat”
Tagalog: “Apat”
Five
Bahasa Indonesia: “Lima”
Tagalog: “Lima”
Six
Bahasa Indonesia: “Enam”
Tagalog: “Anim”
Forty
Bahasa Indonesia: “Empat puluh”
Tagalog: “Apatnapu”
Fifty
Bahasa Indonesia: “Lima puluh”
Tagalog: “Limampu”
Tebas is to Slash like for bushes or tall grass,
Penebas is the slasher
In malay
These were the best performing blades I've seen on this show, period.
Josh literally lives like 20 minutes away from me, that’s crazy
That gives you a good chance to learn from him.
Meet him and say hi to him for all of us
tell him congrats,, but i'm sory to say RAY won in the heart of filipino audience,,, Ray got a perfect design for PANABAS.,,,
I'd rather wield the loser's blade on this one
he definitely had the better blade, maybe if he added some ornamentals on the blade he would have won... he had 4 extra days.
The loser's blade is what panabas really look like. Im from ph
His did have a very small nick on the blade after the helmet test. Meaning the metal is just a tad bit weaker than the winner blade.
@@rubens.4116 if you look where both blades hit on the helmet his blade hit right on one of the rivets. That tiny fold was probably it coming into contact with a denser piece of metal.
Yes, Panabas is a practical weapon/tool, function before form.
The Panabas is from Cebu, Philippines. Very proud of it. 🦾💪
I'll go with Ray
but combining their blades (if only) is TOO Awesome to imagine.
In philippines we call it "TABAS" its mostly used in cutting sugar canes.
In Bicol, I usually see it being used for Niyog(coconut nut) and after several times on hammering it on the Niyog, it's still freakin sharp. Like it can stil cut a paper.
Now farmers are using spading for cutting sugarcane here in mindanao
In pangasinan too
They used it to cut grass
Except it was originally designed to decapitate heads and the cane cutting came last.
Doug gets so giddy, it's great.
I seriously thought Ray would win this. His panabas was a bit sharper and more accurate by design
My lolo (grandfather), a Filipino-Ilongo native used to forge this kind of weapon, which we called 'tabas' and at the same time a basic farm tool . All he wants to achieve is the sharpness and the desired weight of the blade and I think Ray's work have it. Tabas or panabas is actually light in weight but sharp. In that way it is more efficient in battle and farming works.
i feel so proud we mostly used that blade for cutting bushes
Whos here just for the “IT WILL KEEEELL”
All of the blades can KEEEELL
Both weapons performed exceptionally well. I would be proud to own either one. Too bad the show keeps both weapons. I would like to buy the losing weapon if I could.
Ray: given 5 days
Ray: well thanks, i really only needed 1
Ray and Josh really went head to head this competition. Couldn't help but feel the satisfaction in every cut.