He did very well on his own despite the odds being against him. You learn far more from your failures than from success, this man will be a master of his craft because of his determination to master it. A very impressive young man!
Zach won in my eyes. No master to guide him. He's an apprentice after all, and he was pretty close to somebody with a master guiding them. Maybe even helping if I heard right.
Dwarf unique skill bonus: Standing near an anvil - smithing + 10. Standing near a furnace or forge - metallurgy + 10. Having an apprentice with a super long beard - heat resist + 2,5% - This skill stacks up to 5 apprentices with long beards.
Given the circumstances, Zach was the winner here. From the footage it seems all Nehemiah did was sharpen the blade while his master did the work and still went with a broken handle. Zach plowed through like a true champion on his lonesome and came out with an incredibly effective and beautiful weapon.
So... the video shows apprentice Nehemiah mostly standing around with hands in his pockets, while Frank, the master, made the weapon. So this competition was Frank vs Zack... master vs apprentice. Pretty sure I wouldn't be too proud, as a master, to beat an apprentice. As a master, your job is to encourage growth in your apprentice, not have them stand by as you win $10k in a contest against a far less experienced opponent. There's no honor in it. In this instance, If I were Frank, knowing dang well that Zack's master was gone, I'd have stood back and let Nehemiah do the job, without any interference at all. Then, regardless of the outcome, I'd have been proud of both students, and commended both for their excellent work. Zack did an outstanding job. I love the show, but this one bugs me...
For Zack to make a blade that was just as good as Frank’s goes to prove that, despite winning, Frank is not that much of a master. Imagine being almost beaten by an apprentice.
@@stickbow95 The way the Master and Apprentice episodes are done, the master and apprentice alternate working days. The editing in this clip is very selective and for some reason does not show that aspect of things, but if you watched the full episode you would see otherwise.
This is the equivalent of a kid throwing together a science fair project by himself with no help just to lose to a kid whose parents did everything for them while they just had to stand around and watch
@Nick Trybull it was a master/apprentice episode he'd started out with a master but the master had to go take care of some emergency, the other guys basically just had the master build the blade and the apprentice sharpened it.
For an apprentice working on his own, essentially competing with a master who had assistance, he did phenomenally. For only a single roll, turning in a heavy weapon, and having a slight cutting issue, he did outstandingly. Unfortunately, sometimes that's just how it goes. Personally, I am much more interested in how Zach progresses as a smith than the other two. He showed individual ingenuity, creativity, and capability that the other apprentice simply didn't because the master did all the work.
@@strifeturtle7124 he was a lone apprentice vs a master and a apprentice and homeboy made a nicer looking blade and one almost as functional as theirs FiF is about who made a better blade in identical circumstances he was at a distinct disadvantage homeboy deserved the w
right? this is a show about good sportsmanship and hard work. if those two want to be cocky hen they could head back to whatever garbage reality tv they came from.
They're a bit goofy and awkward but no where did it seem like they were gloating. It's not their fault they made the better blade in a circumstance they couldn't control. That thing was an absolute beast and to give the other dude the win just because he had tougher circumstances would be equally unfair.
I disagree with the judges on this one completely. he was on his own and his weapon technically received no damage (no chipping of the blade, just a minor roll). while the other weapon clearly was falling apart *and* it was a master/apprentice vs just an apprentice after the other master blacksmith had to leave for personal reasons. now, if you were to repair both weapons, which one do you think would take longer to repair ? the blade that just needs a wetstone run along it to bring back the edge, or the handle that forces you to take the entire thing apart and rebuild ?
I disagree. The judges should not alter the judgement based on the circumstances of who was able to work on the blade. Zack got some bad luck. Also, like the one judge said, the damage to the handle did not affect his grip, while the blade of Zack's did affect the Nzappa zap's performance. Due to that, the repair argument is not as strong of a point. I was rooting for Zack as well😔
This was pretty much an Apprentice going up against a master. In these clips, that guys apprentice looked like he was just standing by, while his Master did all the work xD
@@williamjackson3582 That's because back in the early seasons people would just make heavy weapons that could deal more damage and take more of a beating. Besides; it's more practical to use the lightest version of a weapon possible. Yet still props to Zack for making a pretty strong weapons.
I didn't realize he was the master until you pointed it out and I caught it at the end. You are right. That was truly not fair because the master did all the work.
Zack should have won. His master taught him so well, and he carried that training in his heart, to the point where he very nearly made a blade that outperformed that of a duo.
Simple fact zach made a blade equal to the other one without the help of a master. To not have that being a determing factor means that it's not a test of blacksmithing skills after all.
Yup that's exactly true what a warrior would want. If we're talking about a thowable axe the heavier it hits more chances the target is killed, not everyone in ancient times follows the rule of lighter is better.
They should have made it apprentice vs apprentice once the teacher had to leave its just unfair to be honest itll gain more respect if its apprentice vs apprentice
As a toddler first learning the do’s and dont’s of handling a butter knife, first rule... “never pass and edged anything pointy side out”... both of these weapons were presented pointy side to the judges.
Not only is it unfair that Zak didn't have his master with him, their blades had a WAY different shape, it will obviously react differently during testing
Very impressive for an apprentice. But I I really dont think the winners deserve a prize yet. I think they should face off against another master and apprentice team.
I love how the "strength test" for the swords is always something brutal like he ice block chop or something, but for the axes and a lot of the other heavy weapons designed to hand stuff like the ice block chop get the easy tests LOL
Yup for me Zack won, he was solo but when I realized he was just an apprentice against a master with his apprentice well he deserved an honorific mention
Not to mention that the master did everything except sharpen it while the apprentice stood around with his hands in his pockets. This was an apprentice vs a master.
Well, I give Zack credit. The judges like light weighted tools, but if you had a big strong type dude who hates light tools, then Zack's Sword would've won.
The dwarf and the jewish giant had an unfair advantage. Zack didn't have a master to guide him, but still produced an amazing axe. Zack lost the competition but he won our hearts.
I agree, something about the two of them feels off just looking at them. The kid with his hands in his pockets reminds me of someone about to snap mentally.
Copied this comment from someone else but its true : ''This is the equivalent of a kid throwing together a science fair project, by himself with no help just to lose to a kid whose parents did everything for them while they just had to stand around and watch''.
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02:16 This guy literally used a 'Stop' sign to stop the fire !
I guess it shows the power of that word
Lol
Genius
It’s called cutting most the oxygen off
@@thecuztv0 did u get the joke or nah
I demand a fair rematch. This should've been delayed until the master could return or make the other master sit it out.
That’s exactly what I thought it was just so unfair
exactly. most of the time in anything 2 against 1 always wins.
Zack AS your Master i would say you have done not Bad. Sorry Zack i can't Join you because of Corona. Good Luck my pupil
Agreed was not a fair comparison.
He did very well on his own despite the odds being against him. You learn far more from your failures than from success, this man will be a master of his craft because of his determination to master it. A very impressive young man!
Zach won in my eyes. No master to guide him. He's an apprentice after all, and he was pretty close to somebody with a master guiding them. Maybe even helping if I heard right.
But the other blade was better
@@stefankok7962 because it was 2 vs 1 my g
Looked more like the master made it and the apprentice sharpened to me
@@LeoArmada but the show is about who made the best blade, and not who put the most effort in making it
@@stefankok7962 2 people accomplish more stuff than 1 person, not a fair match
Zack might have lost that but he won in our hearts. All the homies like Zack.
The other two are neck beards
Sad Zack lost ☹️
You spoiled it 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
His nzappa zap was the coolest, just for that peace that was not sharp he lost :/
He definitely had the best design
I am so stoned. I didn't realise those 2 guys were part of the same team, least until 5 minutes into the video.
HA I'm sober mate and I didn't even realise.
Lmao me rn off the dabs
i only realize at 9:40
I’m sober and figured out at the same time
I honestly thought he was just a friend watching him smith lol
The guy in the middle has an unfair advantage in forging because he is a dwarf.
Lmfao
@@shadowcockrell8278well,the dude ain't wrong
Dwarf unique skill bonus:
Standing near an anvil - smithing + 10.
Standing near a furnace or forge - metallurgy + 10.
Having an apprentice with a super long beard - heat resist + 2,5% - This skill stacks up to 5 apprentices with long beards.
@@ovsaturnus7160 LOL what is this skyrim?
@@XZER_Dark With mods it certainly is. RPG stuff, you know how it goes.
Given the circumstances, Zach was the winner here. From the footage it seems all Nehemiah did was sharpen the blade while his master did the work and still went with a broken handle. Zach plowed through like a true champion on his lonesome and came out with an incredibly effective and beautiful weapon.
So... the video shows apprentice Nehemiah mostly standing around with hands in his pockets, while Frank, the master, made the weapon. So this competition was Frank vs Zack... master vs apprentice. Pretty sure I wouldn't be too proud, as a master, to beat an apprentice.
As a master, your job is to encourage growth in your apprentice, not have them stand by as you win $10k in a contest against a far less experienced opponent. There's no honor in it.
In this instance, If I were Frank, knowing dang well that Zack's master was gone, I'd have stood back and let Nehemiah do the job, without any interference at all. Then, regardless of the outcome, I'd have been proud of both students, and commended both for their excellent work.
Zack did an outstanding job.
I love the show, but this one bugs me...
For Zack to make a blade that was just as good as Frank’s goes to prove that, despite winning, Frank is not that much of a master. Imagine being almost beaten by an apprentice.
Or stand by and instruct. Let the apprentice do most of the work and he the master do the work that he had his apprentice do
The show told them to operate the way they did. They had to follow the rules, and the judges asked Zack if he was ok with that.
Jnor116 What rule said that Frank had to do all the work while his apprentice watched with hands in pockets?
@@stickbow95 The way the Master and Apprentice episodes are done, the master and apprentice alternate working days. The editing in this clip is very selective and for some reason does not show that aspect of things, but if you watched the full episode you would see otherwise.
This is the equivalent of a kid throwing together a science fair project by himself with no help just to lose to a kid whose parents did everything for them while they just had to stand around and watch
He the champion in all our eyes we need a rematch no master this time.
"I want to be a Forged in Fire Champion I gotta pull out all the tricks."
*Proceeds to start oil fire*
Well that's one way to heat it up anyway
@@Lilith-Rose you're right
He showed the fire in him
So unfair, you won in all of our eyes Zack
How unfair he blade rolled
@@lilkandy7042 so, the handle broke on the other
@@chetchelios7614 Na
@@lilkandy7042 zack was all on his own it wasn't fair
@@chetchelios7614 does a chip in the handle make it unable to cut a rope? Didn’t think so
This deserves a rematch. Unfair.
When he said “I need the stop sign” I thought he was being metaphorical but no the man actually whips out a f*cking stop sign😂
Like a true f-ing mad lad!
I dont like how cocky the guy with his apprentice was. bad sportsmanship
I was thinking the same. I don't like him
Same.
He should have been way more humble since he had a huge advantage.
Well it is a competition you know.
Borderline toxic
That was bs. Zack was at a huge disadvantage and it was completely unfair. To go against 2 people working on 1 weapon.
It would be different if he was at least the master. He was the apprentice. Putting him against any more experienced master sounds unfair in itself
Nick Trybull are you dumb the whole point of the episode was for there to be a master and apprentice
@@honorablewar1910 he is obviously dumb
@Nick Trybull it was a master/apprentice episode he'd started out with a master but the master had to go take care of some emergency, the other guys basically just had the master build the blade and the apprentice sharpened it.
Would love to see just the two apprentices go head to head, I bet the outcome would be different.
I love it how he said “I’m ready for my close up” but the camera man did nothing....... so savage
Well done Zack !! You gave your best ! 👌
For an apprentice working on his own, essentially competing with a master who had assistance, he did phenomenally. For only a single roll, turning in a heavy weapon, and having a slight cutting issue, he did outstandingly. Unfortunately, sometimes that's just how it goes. Personally, I am much more interested in how Zach progresses as a smith than the other two. He showed individual ingenuity, creativity, and capability that the other apprentice simply didn't because the master did all the work.
Agreed. I hope Zach is doing well out there right now and making even better blades.
Zack won 110%, watching beavis and butthead get all cocky makes me so angry
Why is everyone defending zack? His blade was heavy and bent during a test while the other didn't. In no universe did he win
@@strifeturtle7124 he was a lone apprentice vs a master and a apprentice and homeboy made a nicer looking blade and one almost as functional as theirs FiF is about who made a better blade in identical circumstances he was at a distinct disadvantage homeboy deserved the w
right? this is a show about good sportsmanship and hard work. if those two want to be cocky hen they could head back to whatever garbage reality tv they came from.
They're a bit goofy and awkward but no where did it seem like they were gloating. It's not their fault they made the better blade in a circumstance they couldn't control. That thing was an absolute beast and to give the other dude the win just because he had tougher circumstances would be equally unfair.
@@strifeturtle7124 Heavy is not a negative especially for a chopping weapon.
I disagree with the judges on this one completely.
he was on his own and his weapon technically received no damage (no chipping of the blade, just a minor roll).
while the other weapon clearly was falling apart *and* it was a master/apprentice vs just an apprentice after the other master blacksmith had to leave for personal reasons.
now, if you were to repair both weapons, which one do you think would take longer to repair ?
the blade that just needs a wetstone run along it to bring back the edge, or the handle that forces you to take the entire thing apart and rebuild ?
I agree with this
I mean I kinda saw his loss coming. For the most part the judges tend to go with the lighter weapon
Completely agree he should be proud of himself
I disagree. The judges should not alter the judgement based on the circumstances of who was able to work on the blade. Zack got some bad luck. Also, like the one judge said, the damage to the handle did not affect his grip, while the blade of Zack's did affect the Nzappa zap's performance. Due to that, the repair argument is not as strong of a point. I was rooting for Zack as well😔
I agree with this guy thats bs
This was pretty much an Apprentice going up against a master. In these clips, that guys apprentice looked like he was just standing by, while his Master did all the work xD
How to win Forged in Fire:
1. Be lighter
2. Don't break
Once they said the one was lighter, I knew it would win if it survived.
Agreed. It's getting tiresome to constantly see the Judge's blatant favoritism to lighter weapons.
Heavy weapons are better at chopping and slicing anyways .. and I bet his weapon was only heavier by half a pound at the max
@@williamjackson3582 That's because back in the early seasons people would just make heavy weapons that could deal more damage and take more of a beating. Besides; it's more practical to use the lightest version of a weapon possible. Yet still props to Zack for making a pretty strong weapons.
All I'm saying is, 1 guy made a weapon that was just as comparable as another made by 2.
Who else have been binging Forged in Fire lately? I watch like 50 clips a day 😂😂
I already watched all of em, I need some new ones
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same here bro❤️
Me
Gregory Schwenk haha at least it’s not just me!
From a technical standpoint, i think they called that right. However, doing it all solo was amazing and should have merited an exception
Nehemiah just stood there with his hands in his pocket... wtf?
Yea, what a limp noodle
He said and I quote, "I'm never gentle"
Well Zach sure got robbed on this one. What were the judges thinking????
Anyone else who thinks Zach should have won?
For a master and apprentice episode, I didn't see the other apprentice do much of anything...just saying
To be fair, we didn't really see the other master really do much of anything either. Would have been a much better Master Vs. Apprentice episode, TBH.
@@adamluther5836 because the other master was ill
@@synister9059 ..... yeah, that was the implication. Glad it didn't get past you.
I didn't realize he was the master until you pointed it out and I caught it at the end.
You are right. That was truly not fair because the master did all the work.
Zack should have won.
His master taught him so well, and he carried that training in his heart, to the point where he very nearly made a blade that outperformed that of a duo.
Simple fact zach made a blade equal to the other one without the help of a master. To not have that being a determing factor means that it's not a test of blacksmithing skills after all.
For having to do it all on his own, Zach did a phenomenal job. He should be very proud of himself.
Zack did a very commendable job all by himself!!!!! 👏
Zappa zap : not electric
0/10 disappointed
So ur not disappointed?
@@alk7638* visible confusion *
same bro same. okay do you play rainbow six siege? if you do COULD YOU IMAGINE JUST A FRIGGIN BANDIT CAR BATTERY ON THE BACK OF THE AXE
Frank needs to take some of that money in get his teeth cleaned
I feel like they're just making up weapons now "this time you'll be making this iconic weapon from history... the jerba ligma deek"
Or this bottle of vodka from Costco
A roll and a little heavy, vs destruction of handle material and 2 on 1?
This is one of the few times that I feel a contestant at a home forge truly was disadvantaged.
I would prefer Zack's axe, that extra weight is what I look for in axes.
It's also supposed to be throwable
Yup that's exactly true what a warrior would want. If we're talking about a thowable axe the heavier it hits more chances the target is killed, not everyone in ancient times follows the rule of lighter is better.
I also prefer the design of Zack's axe
Pretty sure the Nzappa zap was the African version of the Tomahawk.
Tomahawks aren't heavy, so I don't think the Nzappa should be either.
@@goddammtroubleman by the form of the handle, an the fact that uses copper all over the head, i'll say it is heavy
They should have made it apprentice vs apprentice once the teacher had to leave its just unfair to be honest itll gain more respect if its apprentice vs apprentice
Doug Marcaida's dialogue -🗡"It will cut and it will kill"🗡
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As a toddler first learning the do’s and dont’s of handling a butter knife, first rule... “never pass and edged anything pointy side out”... both of these weapons were presented pointy side to the judges.
As far as I'm concerned Zack won. Those other two were very creepy guys and bad sportsmen, seriously the way they smile gives off some bad vibes.
IKRRRRRR.
Who knew fire obeyed road signs
Not only is it unfair that Zak didn't have his master with him, their blades had a WAY different shape, it will obviously react differently during testing
I have a suspicion that Zack lost because his Zap didn't look like the example the Judges showed them.
@@williamjackson3582 honestly his looks more like the example weapon tbh .. they have two curves, the example only had one
@@williamjackson3582 ive yet to see a heavier weapon win, lighter always wins no matter what
Very impressive for an apprentice. But I I really dont think the winners deserve a prize yet. I think they should face off against another master and apprentice team.
I liked zacks. Weapon if those imperfections were fixed it would of definitely won
In my eyes zack is a champion because he shows the power of a stop sign and it worked with the fire 🔥
When you were gonna ask mom with McDonalds, and you see her rolling down the window: 6:08
One thing I don’t understand about this is they made the weapons with their own material and stuff and they aren’t aloud to keep it?
@Lucas Carlson no they dont. It's illegal to make a weapon on tv in NY unless it's a prop. They hang the winners up on a wall in a special room.
Allowed*
First line of dialogue that came to mind was
IT WILL KILL!!!🤣
I bet his wife shuddered when he said “I’m never gentle”
I love how the "strength test" for the swords is always something brutal like he ice block chop or something, but for the axes and a lot of the other heavy weapons designed to hand stuff like the ice block chop get the easy tests LOL
This is so unfair, Frooodooo there had a master helping. I disagree with the winner
I know you have time limits and stuff but maybe Zack should have had a day or two extra time since he is alone.
Yup for me Zack won, he was solo but when I realized he was just an apprentice against a master with his apprentice well he deserved an honorific mention
Not to mention that the master did everything except sharpen it while the apprentice stood around with his hands in his pockets.
This was an apprentice vs a master.
Zack : be gentle
My head : ooohhhhh
Zack’s didn’t break on the handle.. despite what the other dude said, handles are not disposable😂
If any street is missing a stop sign you know where it’s at now
He did very good by himself.... He is a great blacksmith
Total hats off to Zach that was a tough build. That was designed for a master and an apprentice to work on together
that guy probably hasn't brushed his teeth in 10 years
Who
Who
Law Dorherty lol thanks for backing us up man
That guy and his apprentice look like side show carnies that aren't allowed near schools to be honest.
@@wesrrowlands8309 I know right? Apprentice looked like he sniffs bike seats
We are so happy we Master and Apprentice menaged to win against one apprentice, yeah huge achievment guys
I’m sorry but, Nzappa Zap sounds like i a name Sokja would have came up with. I love how everyone takes the name so seriously! 😂😂😂
Zack is the true winner and people's champ! what a legend!
I find It funny like yes youre weapon will kill its an axe, there are dudes in prison who sharpen a toothbrush and stab each other with it 😂
i'm always amazed by that devilish goblin look that doug has when he announces "it will kill"
Well, I give Zack credit. The judges like light weighted tools, but if you had a big strong type dude who hates light tools, then Zack's Sword would've won.
I Really Enjoyed this program... They both built Amazing Weapons
Mom: Whats that
Me: the weirdo twins
The dwarf and the jewish giant had an unfair advantage. Zack didn't have a master to guide him, but still produced an amazing axe. Zack lost the competition but he won our hearts.
Even tho Zack was alone he still did amazing
A wise man once said “engravings don’t give you a tactical advantage”
Are you referring to solid snake in MGS-3?
A Phantom Reads not tru lmao
charles jeppson yup
Pause the video @ 6:08 and you get to see the face that dude makes when he's looking at little 12 year old girls at the beach.
Why are they two?
It was a team battle but the one dudes team mate had to dip out
Why is RUclips comments?
I'm super uncomfortable about the 2. Both of them look like total creepers. I wouldn't go within 10 feet of them.
look who's talking
I agree, something about the two of them feels off just looking at them. The kid with his hands in his pockets reminds me of someone about to snap mentally.
He's gonna regret that "nzappa zap on the mappa map" catchphrase 😂😂😂
I'm never gentle OOO I got a good chill from that.
*evil chuckle*
“I’m never gentle”
Zach should have won Frank and that other guy were super cocky
That divot in the blade makes things slide down into it and it just helps the cut👍
That and the example didnt have a divot in it .. they technically strayed from the example blade
Copied this comment from someone else but its true : ''This is the equivalent of a kid throwing together a science fair project,
by himself with no help just to lose to a kid whose parents did everything for them while they just had to stand around and watch''.
You gave some prizes to the unlucky man in shows for there hardwork
“Unfortunately, your blade did not make the cut”. 😂
I think Zack had that one, only the blade rolled but it stayed together and he did it alone.
Zach just won in my opinion, the judges should have watched the footage of the Master doing all the hard work.
when you stopped a fire with a stop sign i- 😭🖐️
If it was only a little sharp you would have made it I still say good works Zach
Zack is our true hero
A little known fact; fire does have respect for the STOP sign.
Ngl that stop sign fire suppression was really impressive
5:11 Participant : be gentle
Judge : I'm never gentle 😝
Looool that apprentice didn't do anything he sat there with his hands in his pockets! What a conman lmao
Even tho zack did not win he done an awesome job on his own
The stop sign said stop to the fire
Zack won in our eyes , what a goat