i have the same set of AMERICAN made craftsman wrenches that my GRANDFATHER gave my dad, they are all still in perfect shape. Not this chinesium craftsman BS they sell today
Lol, yeah, harbour fart is going up in quality for sure. Those Pittsburgh wrenches probly would break though. Icon is pretty good though. 100.00 vs 500.00, lol
The only wrench I've ever broken was a snap on 5/8 and couldn't get the truck guy to replace it. He said there was no way a guy my size could have broken it so I had to have done something to make it weak first. Never again will I give snap on any money.
@@user-tb9il4fv5t True. The factory guys make $39k and the truck guys have to hustle bc they're trapped in that truck and franchise fees. The bankers at the top are netting 20%, which is 4-5x what any normal business nets
*Over 4 decades of twisting wrenches and telling Snap-On, and MAC tool bois to eat sh__. I was an auto mechanic and then became an HD mechanic. The ONLY tools I buy that are high-brand are roatary or pivoting tools. That is IT!! Wrenches, pry bars, hammers, picks, sockets, extensions, drivers, etc.... You can use Icon, Mastercraft, Husky, Craftsman, or any other run-of-the-mill mainstream brands.* *My $10,000 tool set will do the EXACT same job (performance-wise AND reliability-wise) as a fanboy's $40,000+ tool set.* *PS, check out CDI tools. They MAKE some of Snap-On's tools and cost 1/2 as much. Because they don't have a Snap-On name on them. LoL!!*
I have had Husky strip a socket but in general very happy with the quality I got, even if it could be a bit better with some hand tools. My favorite brand is Tekton just for their sets never skipping sizes, but Harbor Freight's Quinn brand got my vote for doing the same thing even if they're not as nice. Quinn screwdrivers have not failed me yet, and they're 5 years old taking daily use and abuse on airplanes.
@@coryohanlan194 exactly! The $500 difference in price per wrench set could be used for other things that provide more value (even if it's just 125 gallons of gasoline)
Snap on is either going to have to go back to the drawing board or reduce prices or they’ll go out of business eventually. Asking customers to pay exorbitant prices when competitors are making tools that are a fraction of the price and just as good/even better in some instances is definitely not sustainable
😂😂😂😂. The snap on truck guy was speechless and didn’t know what to say. I laughed so hard when he said it’s just a nylon nut and we prob didn’t make that those
the tool community needed this video. SnapOn-slime has been getting away with their bulls^^t for far too long now on a business model that's been obsolete for the past 20 years.
Yes icon makes some nice tools. Yes snap on should be ashamed of their prices. But im telling you as an ase certified mechanic. The snap on wrenches are better, this test is very flawed. It doesnt accurately represents the materials to be used. And he obviousoy wasnt applying even straight pressure. Watch last beat tool, he copied this test and snap on won.
I'll always be grateful to snap on in a way because in high school me and a buddy used to wash one of the snap on trucks twice a week for a guy and he'd give us 40 bucks which we'd take down to the local LAN center and game our asses off. Good times.
Icon Brand is top of the line tools and will stand up to anything that they call professional. Harbor freight has many levels cheap, good,excellent and professional!!! ICON IS 100% professional…
Bottom line there are tools just as good as snap on for a fraction of the price and most of these mechanics are going into deep debt for these tools it blows my mind
Theres a few snapon factories where i live theyre constantly hiring and pay their employees like shit.wouldnt expect too much quality from people who dont care about their jobs bc they arent taken care of.
@@bagelmonster420 I agree. I looked on Glassdoor, and those factory workers are getting $39k/yr. Might as well work at Walmart for same wage where you're in the AC all day
@@billyyoder8171 snap on trucks sell any kind of tool you want . If you want buffalo they will glsdly order it and have it in your hands as soon as possible. Now the price will be greatly marked up and they will carry the financing . Snap on is a brand but the teuck is basically a tool bank that will give you credit and let you make payments.
People need to realize that now and days with technology it’s easier to make something better at a lower price. Snap on is over kill , harbor freight never let me down ,
The fact he agreed to this is so arrogantly stupid. Always give your opponent respect and never underestimate them. Even base model Pittsburg tools are decent quality, and harbor freight isn’t throwing the kitchen sink at them like they are icon.
@@RenBobbins 💯. I've built several vehicles and trailers with Pittsburgh stuff. The price is so good that I keep a set of Pittsburgh wrenches in every motorcycle and a socket set in my truck just in case
I’ve bought several icon items over the last year and a half impact sockets extensions swivels wrenches pliers hammers have abused them heavily and had zero failure out of any.For the part time mechanic homeowner or full time mechanic on a budget well worth the money.
@@darrencedeno8098 Why? Titanium is amazing, but very expensive. A combo wrench doesn't need the light weight or corrosion resistance that titanium provides
I’ve had snap on wrench snap its box end on a seized nut yet a cheap pos Walmart box end took it off fine no slipping I gave up on snap on years ago and no I wasn’t using a pipe and only heat involved was on the bolt not the tool also was a new snap on wrench that snapped
Guys. I’ve got sets of snap on wrenches spread over drawers in 5 snap on boxes. Guessing I’m a Snap On fan boy, eh? Results are no surprise. I prefer the thinner Snap On combination wrenches. If I need to torque a wrench I’m using box end. An interesting test would be newer, thicker, Blue Point combination wrenches to both wrenches tested.
@@davidclark2716 The Snap-On dealer and fan were sure surprised 😂 Why hassle with Snap-On's slightly-lower-price Bluepoint brand when I can go to the HFT for a better value and not have to deal with the tool truck salesperson 🤷
I Love How The Snap On Dealer Laughts 😂😂On His Customer Face After he Got Rob $500 Dollars And After He Find Out That Harbor Freight Has The Same Set $69 Dollars On Sale Now And To His Surprice That The China Tool Is More Stronger And Not Slipping Jajajajaajaajajaja 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆🎎🎎🎎🎎🎎🎎🎎
To all my friends that have invested and are indebted to the snap on mac or any other tool truck stop making these dudes rich if youve been a mechanic long enough you know what a decent or good tool feels like i. your hand weve all felt cheap allen wrenches and crescent wrenches etc before using them as a father of 3 i rather spend that money on my family vacation or buying my kids what they need instead of making these guys a ton of money for tools that do the same job or better
You can not beat Snap On tools. If someone else is paying for them. Crazy expensive. Over 50 years I’ve had as good or better results with SK Wayne, old Craftsman, Blue Point couple of other brands. Now most are intertwined in huge corporations and quality sucks.
A wrench can't out perform another wrench much the same as a hammer can't out perform a other hammer. It's all about how it feels when you are using it.
Snap Ons entire business model is based on 100 yr old snake oil that been peddled through generations....you must buy name brand, you must buy snap on to be a good mechanic....when in reality its just about function and value for money. Why spend $500 to get the same function from $70 tools. Thats an extra $430 to your bottom line instead of snap ons snake oil. Buying Snap On is like DoorDashing Mcdonalds for 3x the price. Same results in the end but you paid 3x more to make someone richer.
@@techcores Exactly right. Falling for these old marketing tricks of branding, payment plans, and status is weak thinking. It makes so many people have to work harder and longer for the same result.
@@MrT13 it is a dumb test, but it's what Snap-On used for years to justify their Flank Drive wrenches. A follow-up test found both brands would twist the heads off of grade 8 bolts
@@robertmckinney exactly. All this test tells me is I definitely don’t want those obviously not exact tighter ones. Cause every time I go to use them on any type of slightly rusted bolt…. I’ll need a hammer as well. So they are what .01” smaller? Lol and? Like you said now go ahead and get a threaded nipple between the two of them and watch that cheap box end pop right open.
I have never spent big money on expensive hand tools, wrenches, screwdrivers, hammers ect… But when in comes to ratchet sets and power tools there is a huge difference. I burned up a lot of battery powered saws, impact drivers and drills that were ryobi and craftsman before I switched to something more expensive. Went with Dewalt but have even moved on from them as I believe there quality has slipped thru the years.
I have the icon set and it’s a good set especially at the parking lot sale price. The snap ons definitely bite more on the open end but you’d only be loosening on the open end when doing tie rods, otherwise you’d be using the boxed end to loosen. So can’t really justify the price difference for the snap ons just to bite more on the open end.
@@mikejp9393 I know, they beat snap on in their own test but on a real bolt or nut the icons will spread if you apply enough pressure. The snap on’s won’t.
Damn, ive been upgrading all of my tools from husky to icon for my mechanic handtools. I was on the ropes about their wrenches. But after this video, it looks like icon for the win. Snap on should be ashamed of themselves. Its obvious they have ripped off their customers for a long time. Make fun of HF all you want. All the teats ive seen show their tools hold up great for a fraction of the price. And that warranty is unbeatable.
Nice video. Two things. The Icon had two more points of contact on the open end. So that isn't really a fair comparison. Second, Harbor Freight's quality control has never been what SnapOn's is. You could open another box of their wrenches and break half of them. Maybe that is changing.. I'm also not a SnapOn fanboy, I in fact own a lot of Harbor Frieght tools because I was poor AF most of my life. Their power tools have become usable in the last few years. And I've personally broken a LOT of their hand tools in the last 30 years.
The owners of snapon should go to prison for the amount of money they’ve stolen from people. Price gouging. It’s like apple with their iPhones accept 10x worse. Atleast an iPhone cost under 2k.
Prison? Why? Which of the owners forced people to buy Snap On tools against their will? They didn't steal anyone's money, they exchanged goods for money at an agreed upon price. A full on stupid price? No question about it. But everyone who owns the tools is or was willing to pay that price. To me Apple is on one hand a different story. Not because of the prices that people are clearly willing to pay, but because their latest and greatest offering is usually obsolete six months later when the iphone (next number) comes out. I say on one hand, because on the other, everyone knows this or should know this by now, and they pay for and buy the latest and greatest anyway. I am always surprised when people are upset at a successful business model, even for a product that may be overrated and overpriced. I've always felt both about snap on, but they sell a product that people want, at a price that they are willing to pay, produced by workers that took a job at an agreed wage. When workers aren't paid enough, they quit. When consumers aren't happy with the price or quality, they don't buy it or buy something else. Might this test prompt some blowback? Of course, it already has. Loss in sales? Probably so. What happens when that happens? Well, either they lower the price or they raise the quality. This happens a lot in life in a lot of different ways. When you are the best at something, and you have been for a long time, you tend to rest on your laurels while everyone else works very hard at getting better. Snap On just needs to hit the gym is all. That usually results in better strength and cutting the fat, both literally and figuratively. Sorry I ramble so much.
I have never wasted money on Snap-On but I always defended their hand tools as being the best (their electronic stuff is trash). This makes me wonder why they are even around. For what Snap-On charges I would expect a massage and 5 course meal.
I've got both sets of Icon anti-slips, and they are great. So are the double-open end wrenches. They're nothing to roll your eyes at. You can see the Snappy arrogance eating that big guy up inside. They're charging 400% more for something thats really only a "little cosmetically" better. It's eating his brain! I bet they still bad mouth Icon now because this has made them that much more mad. If the price difference wasn't so crazily large, this wouldn't be that big of a deal. But wow, 500 bucks vs. about $125 is a huge difference. I'm not bad mouthing Snap-on, either. They're still really nice. But then, i dont own my own garage or make a thousand bucks a week anymore either.
Well, here’s one that will put a dent in harbor freight’s ego. I’ve had problems with the harbor freight 3/4 drive ratchet taking off the lawnmower blade mount bolts. The problem I’ve had is the harbor freight 3/4 drive ratchet won’t take it off at all no matter how hard I pull, or get on the other side of it and push. It just won’t do it. So my grandpa has a 3/4 drive Snap-On ratchet. I grab it, and put the same harbor freight socket on it for the bolt. And while putting about half the strength into it, it takes it right off. So if you ask me what I think is happening inside the harbor freight ratchet is the ratchet paws are bowing causing the torque level I’m putting into it to drop off and it never reaches the torque level required to take the nuts off. And the Snap-On ratchet paws are not bowing, and instead holding tight and solid against the ratchet gear, and actually doubling the torque I’m putting into it, and taking the nuts off with half the effort required. So if you ask me Snap-On is still better just based off of that experience alone. I’m definitely not a professional mechanic or anything, but that’s still a scenario I think is quite valuable to consider. Plus Snap on hand tools are USA made, harbor freight is either China or Taiwan. So I guess at least with a snap-On you’re supporting America, and American jobs, and with harbor freight you’re supporting a communist country that makes harbor freight tools using forced child labor in sweat shops so the price can be much lower.
@@hunterprowsemrereviews9141 Hand ratchet? Is one longer? Sounds like you just need a breaker bar. As for sweatshops, SO workers only make $39k while the bankers that own SO make 20% net profit (which is 4-5x most companies)
@@robertmckinney it is a hand ratchet, neither one is longer than the other. Both the exact same length since harbor freight compares its hand tools to Snap-On, I doubt they would make there hand ratchet shorter than the Snap-On, instantly giving the Snap-On hand ratchet the advantage in leverage. It’s the ratchet paws inside the head that are of different quality steel. That’s the difference. The harbor freight ratchet paws are bending, because it’s a low tempered steel. The Snap-On ratchet paws are of much much higher quality steel and, are high tempered. Yes a breaker bar probably would’ve been the more proper tool for that, but as I stated I’m not a professional mechanic, and I could only use the tools that were on hand. Given both hand ratchet are the same length, and the same 3/4” drive, and the harbor freight hand ratchet couldn’t break the nuts loose, but the Snap-On one could is my whole point. Also note too that that nut is torqued to specifically 80 ft lbs, as calls for in the manual of the riding lawn mower. I install those nuts with a torque wrench set to 80 ft lbs. It’s not a terribly difficult nut to break loose at that torque. The harbor freight hand ratchet should’ve been able to easily break that nut loose either way, and it couldn’t. The Snap-On hand ratchet broke it loose with ease using the harbor freight socket.
@@dyer2cycle I have yet to see a tool truck for Wright products but as a Mechanic that builds High Precision Machines. I’ve been very successful with their products. I have zero snap on products in my tool box and I’ve successfully built multi million dollar machines. It’s the user not the tool. Don’t let them Snap On fool you, there are better cost effective products but I use more power tools than hand tools so I can’t be of good advice. Just test it out and it’s your own preference. Tools are only meant to be used certain way but I will always trust American made Wright tools.
@@aznninja17 I guess my question about Wright, is not that they have great quality tools, which I have no doubt they do, but is how they stay in business, or will continue to do so, without a tool truck or significant retail presence?..I think of them much like S-K which have long been one of my favorites..and now, to my dismay, have been sold out to the Chinese..honestly, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, as S-K, as long as I can remember, have had a tiny or non-existent retail presence, and no tool truck..and thus difficult to obtain..I know if they had had either, my tool boxes would contain far more S-K tools than they do. I do buy some tools online, but I believe many/most wrench turners are like me,and want to lay their hands on a tool and see it for real rather than buy them all online from a tool seller on Ebay or wherever...I have only 2-3 Wright tools for the same reasons. Looks like Wright could get into auto parts stores, or major retailers and tout themselves as a premium "Made In USA" offering. And maybe have a tool truck, although I believe that tool trucks are probably on their way out....
Are those snap on flank drive wrenches? Are the icon wrenches just plain open end wrenches. I think the flank drive cut into the nylon causes it to round.
Snap on salesman hates that he agreed to this test
I bet Snap On isn’t too happy about an employee using the company truck to make their brand look stupid...
He’s not a Snap-On employee. He owns a Snap-on truck. You don’t even understand how the business operates.
Mad
@@LvLdGhost He’s not an employee. Snap on will be happy then.
Im pretty sure they are just like a sub contractor. They own the tools and vehicles.
It’s a franchise
That was the face of “what have I been tricked into believing”
Harbor Freight has a lifetime warranty as well, in case anyone wants to use that as a reason for the snap on price tag
It's a nightmare dealing with HF for warranties though. I've had to wait weeks before because parts are out of stock
Snap On is one of the biggest gimmicks of all time.
i have the same set of AMERICAN made craftsman wrenches that my GRANDFATHER gave my dad, they are all still in perfect shape. Not this chinesium craftsman BS they sell today
You mean the fancy salesman asking for all my money was lying? D:
@@iSkillM0re 😆
Yes
Lol, yeah, harbour fart is going up in quality for sure. Those Pittsburgh wrenches probly would break though. Icon is pretty good though. 100.00 vs 500.00, lol
@@Blue-p8v Honestly, I've rebuilt several vehicles frame off with Pittsburg wrenches and sockets and never broken a one
Your videos are badass keep it up@@robertmckinney
The only wrench I've ever broken was a snap on 5/8 and couldn't get the truck guy to replace it. He said there was no way a guy my size could have broken it so I had to have done something to make it weak first. Never again will I give snap on any money.
Hf wouldn't ever give you such bs
Snapon guy might have to get a smaller boat if these vids keep happening.. lol
@@kevinlong1104 🤣
Actually it's a horrible business model. Those guys make very little.
@@user-tb9il4fv5t True. The factory guys make $39k and the truck guys have to hustle bc they're trapped in that truck and franchise fees. The bankers at the top are netting 20%, which is 4-5x what any normal business nets
That snap on guy is so butthurt
I’m a snap on fan boy but I have icon wrenches. That snap on guy looked very salty
*Over 4 decades of twisting wrenches and telling Snap-On, and MAC tool bois to eat sh__. I was an auto mechanic and then became an HD mechanic. The ONLY tools I buy that are high-brand are roatary or pivoting tools. That is IT!! Wrenches, pry bars, hammers, picks, sockets, extensions, drivers, etc.... You can use Icon, Mastercraft, Husky, Craftsman, or any other run-of-the-mill mainstream brands.*
*My $10,000 tool set will do the EXACT same job (performance-wise AND reliability-wise) as a fanboy's $40,000+ tool set.*
*PS, check out CDI tools. They MAKE some of Snap-On's tools and cost 1/2 as much. Because they don't have a Snap-On name on them. LoL!!*
I have had Husky strip a socket but in general very happy with the quality I got, even if it could be a bit better with some hand tools. My favorite brand is Tekton just for their sets never skipping sizes, but Harbor Freight's Quinn brand got my vote for doing the same thing even if they're not as nice. Quinn screwdrivers have not failed me yet, and they're 5 years old taking daily use and abuse on airplanes.
Good for you.
You could make an argument either way, but when one cost 10X the other, that pretty much closes the deak
@@coryohanlan194 exactly! The $500 difference in price per wrench set could be used for other things that provide more value (even if it's just 125 gallons of gasoline)
@@robertmckinney sht man for $500 you could get a good compact impact w/batteries + a full socket set and quit fooling around 😂
@@LukeA_55 💯 Even the cheapest electric impact make quick work of so much.
@@robertmckinney yup, the new M12 stubby looks like it will be so handy. Will be perfect for just about everything automotive
Homer Simpson just had his world shattered
Why do you have to be rude bro. How bout we call u Maggie cuz ur a crybaby
Lmao 😂 🤣 💀
Icons are like $70 right now, I’ve been beating them up for like 6 months and they have held up great
You can't say "we all have our opinions" when you just witnessed undeniable proof that snap on lost!!
Went to harbor freight yesterday and all the icon anti slip wrenches were completely sold out.
@@andythompson3528 😁
@@robertmckinneyI already have the Milwaukee wrenches, which have the same open end as the icon, but the main body of the wrench is different.
Because they just had the parking lot sale. Those wrenches were half price. 70 bucks for the set!
Snap on is either going to have to go back to the drawing board or reduce prices or they’ll go out of business eventually. Asking customers to pay exorbitant prices when competitors are making tools that are a fraction of the price and just as good/even better in some instances is definitely not sustainable
Thomas is like “dude I ain’t nervous, I’m still paying off this truck” 😂
😂😂😂😂. The snap on truck guy was speechless and didn’t know what to say. I laughed so hard when he said it’s just a nylon nut and we prob didn’t make that those
the tool community needed this video. SnapOn-slime has been getting away with their bulls^^t for far too long now on a business model that's been obsolete for the past 20 years.
@@mrcokez1 💯
They don’t call it Strap-On for nothing!
I’m buying a set icons this weekend. They’re gonna be on sale.
They’ve been on sale
ITC gang checking in😎🫡
$70 for the anti slip icons were clutch. @@Seenmikal
@@Seenmikalis itc worth it?
@@Danielxperez14 no
Even the dog is going to get some icon tools
I'm impressed. I will try a set of Icons. Snap On, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Yes icon makes some nice tools. Yes snap on should be ashamed of their prices. But im telling you as an ase certified mechanic. The snap on wrenches are better, this test is very flawed. It doesnt accurately represents the materials to be used. And he obviousoy wasnt applying even straight pressure. Watch last beat tool, he copied this test and snap on won.
@@charlesdickerson8260 snap on is not better. I've broken snap on wrenches but not Icon. Stop trying to justify your spending habits.
I'll always be grateful to snap on in a way because in high school me and a buddy used to wash one of the snap on trucks twice a week for a guy and he'd give us 40 bucks which we'd take down to the local LAN center and game our asses off. Good times.
Icon has been getting better!
Some 40 years ago I did this same shit with snap on versus my proto wrenches won the deal😊
@4:55 said every dude that has ever lived😎
The old craftsman wrenches were hard to beat. Tekton holds up pretty well to
Icon Brand is top of the line tools and will stand up to anything that they call professional.
Harbor freight has many levels cheap, good,excellent and professional!!! ICON IS 100% professional…
@@johnjohnson2855HFT has come a long way since their start of selling tools at the county fairgrounds
U can tell those guys are thinking shit I guess I need to start shopping at harbor freight
Bottom line there are tools just as good as snap on for a fraction of the price and most of these mechanics are going into deep debt for these tools it blows my mind
100% Chrome vanadium steel mixed with 100% titanium wrenches
Theres a few snapon factories where i live theyre constantly hiring and pay their employees like shit.wouldnt expect too much quality from people who dont care about their jobs bc they arent taken care of.
@@bagelmonster420 I agree. I looked on Glassdoor, and those factory workers are getting $39k/yr. Might as well work at Walmart for same wage where you're in the AC all day
Snap-on tool trucks will be selling ICON tools starting this week. 😮
@@billyyoder8171 snap on trucks sell any kind of tool you want . If you want buffalo they will glsdly order it and have it in your hands as soon as possible. Now the price will be greatly marked up and they will carry the financing . Snap on is a brand but the teuck is basically a tool bank that will give you credit and let you make payments.
Where did my money go for the least 10 years
People need to realize that now and days with technology it’s easier to make something better at a lower price. Snap on is over kill , harbor freight never let me down ,
This test rattled the tool industry 😮
The fact he agreed to this is so arrogantly stupid. Always give your opponent respect and never underestimate them. Even base model Pittsburg tools are decent quality, and harbor freight isn’t throwing the kitchen sink at them like they are icon.
@@RenBobbins 💯. I've built several vehicles and trailers with Pittsburgh stuff. The price is so good that I keep a set of Pittsburgh wrenches in every motorcycle and a socket set in my truck just in case
I'm throwing out my made in China socket set Harbor Freight is the place 🇺🇸👍
@@PhilAVega 🤦♂️
I’ve bought several icon items over the last year and a half impact sockets extensions swivels wrenches pliers hammers have abused them heavily and had zero failure out of any.For the part time mechanic homeowner or full time mechanic on a budget well worth the money.
This is like guitarists believing they play and sound better on a $4,000 guitar and then some kid comes out with a $500 guitar and shreds them away.
I wish they can put 100% titanium mix with 100% Chrome financial steel mix it together
@@darrencedeno8098 Why? Titanium is amazing, but very expensive. A combo wrench doesn't need the light weight or corrosion resistance that titanium provides
I’ve had snap on wrench snap its box end on a seized nut yet a cheap pos Walmart box end took it off fine no slipping I gave up on snap on years ago and no I wasn’t using a pipe and only heat involved was on the bolt not the tool also was a new snap on wrench that snapped
Guys. I’ve got sets of snap on wrenches spread over drawers in 5 snap on boxes. Guessing I’m a Snap On fan boy, eh? Results are no surprise. I prefer the thinner Snap On combination wrenches. If I need to torque a wrench I’m using box end. An interesting test would be newer, thicker, Blue Point combination wrenches to both wrenches tested.
@@davidclark2716 The Snap-On dealer and fan were sure surprised 😂
Why hassle with Snap-On's slightly-lower-price Bluepoint brand when I can go to the HFT for a better value and not have to deal with the tool truck salesperson 🤷
Snap on dude was straight mad at the end, all the way to snap on doesn’t make the nylon nut 😅😅
@@TheCreamRisesToTheTop the guy that was working the wrenches is his best customer. Spent over $200k on the truck in recent years 🤯
@@robertmckinney oooofffff 😂🤣
seemed to me loke the S.O. guy was having a good laugh.
pissed guy is a tech.
I love these videos 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣I love me some Harbor Freight
Just sold me
This guy even has a SnapOn belt 😂
@@elnico135 he's a true fanatic. He spent over $200k on that truck in the past few years 🤯
I Love How The Snap On Dealer Laughts 😂😂On His Customer Face After he Got Rob $500 Dollars And After He Find Out That Harbor Freight Has The Same Set $69 Dollars On Sale Now And To His Surprice That The China Tool Is More Stronger And Not Slipping Jajajajaajaajajaja 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆🎎🎎🎎🎎🎎🎎🎎
@@arnulforivera7647 Nervous laugh bc the guy turning the wrenches had spent over $200k on that truck the past few years 🤯
The snap on wrench tried to run when he grabbed it
Lol. Snap off. Tolerance is off id say. Quality is going out the window. Better start dropping the price 😂😂😂
A new day has dawned…
I already have the Icon set. I want a Snap-on set as well, just so I can say I have Snap On wrenches lol
To all my friends that have invested and are indebted to the snap on mac or any other tool truck stop making these dudes rich if youve been a mechanic long enough you know what a decent or good tool feels like i. your hand weve all felt cheap allen wrenches and crescent wrenches etc before using them as a father of 3 i rather spend that money on my family vacation or buying my kids what they need instead of making these guys a ton of money for tools that do the same job or better
But but but but……..the steel? But but but…….the resale value and personalized service?!
You can not beat Snap On tools. If someone else is paying for them. Crazy expensive. Over 50 years I’ve had as good or better results with SK Wayne, old Craftsman, Blue Point couple of other brands. Now most are intertwined in huge corporations and quality sucks.
Hate to brake it to you but snap on is a huge corp too look at all they own
I was great and cool with everything else going on tell you brought hatboy into the conversation
Icons price gonna be 📈. Going to HF tomorrow lol
I'd hire him in a heartbeat. He's honest and thought, THOUGHT, what he was peddling was the best. It is not
Your snap on guy thinks 4:21 its a joke. Obviously it is not. I have the icon set and i am very pleased with it. I have no complaints of any of it.
What Icon and Snap-on wrench were used? Where they the one's that have the gripping teeth on them?
@@billyamerican5200 yeah they were the SO "flank drive" toothed and the Icon version
@@robertmckinney thanks.
Snap-ON = OVERPRICED
yeah they better start selling gas on those trucks so customers can go to harbor frieght and save 90%
It doesn’t matter which way it goes? Oh boy
I don't even like the whole flank drive, max bite, etc. open ends. Tried them don't like them. Smooth open ends any day thanks. Never had a problem
@@zarajoe1 Same. I don't see the use case for them bc I don't use open ends in high torque situations.
@@robertmckinney exactly
Why is mr. Subaru so salty
I would still buy snap, on. Especially from Thomas. Hes a good guy.
Icon for the win 🥇. Save your money .
Gearwrench & icon > snap on
A wrench can't out perform another wrench much the same as a hammer can't out perform a other hammer. It's all about how it feels when you are using it.
the way this economy is buy what works
On my way to harbor freight right meow
Hey, suby guy, the facts are your snap on just lost to icon get bent straight and rounded edges is what were arguing separating the boys from the men
Good stuff👏 some tools are better off at HF, not all, but some forsure
lol this was awesome.,
Snap Ons entire business model is based on 100 yr old snake oil that been peddled through generations....you must buy name brand, you must buy snap on to be a good mechanic....when in reality its just about function and value for money. Why spend $500 to get the same function from $70 tools. Thats an extra $430 to your bottom line instead of snap ons snake oil. Buying Snap On is like DoorDashing Mcdonalds for 3x the price. Same results in the end but you paid 3x more to make someone richer.
@@techcores Exactly right.
Falling for these old marketing tricks of branding, payment plans, and status is weak thinking. It makes so many people have to work harder and longer for the same result.
Lol what a crud test.
@@MrT13 it is a dumb test, but it's what Snap-On used for years to justify their Flank Drive wrenches. A follow-up test found both brands would twist the heads off of grade 8 bolts
@@robertmckinney exactly. All this test tells me is I definitely don’t want those obviously not exact tighter ones. Cause every time I go to use them on any type of slightly rusted bolt…. I’ll need a hammer as well. So they are what .01” smaller? Lol and? Like you said now go ahead and get a threaded nipple between the two of them and watch that cheap box end pop right open.
Is Harbor Freight going to quadruple the cost of Icon tools now???
@@carlt8188 I doubt it. If anything I bet SO lowers their pricing
I have never spent big money on expensive hand tools, wrenches, screwdrivers, hammers ect… But when in comes to ratchet sets and power tools there is a huge difference. I burned up a lot of battery powered saws, impact drivers and drills that were ryobi and craftsman before I switched to something more expensive. Went with Dewalt but have even moved on from them as I believe there quality has slipped thru the years.
I have the icon set and it’s a good set especially at the parking lot sale price. The snap ons definitely bite more on the open end but you’d only be loosening on the open end when doing tie rods, otherwise you’d be using the boxed end to loosen. So can’t really justify the price difference for the snap ons just to bite more on the open end.
They tested open end in the video and Icon beat the Snap-On
@@mikejp9393 I know, they beat snap on in their own test but on a real bolt or nut the icons will spread if you apply enough pressure. The snap on’s won’t.
my god cut that pony tail
Icon should put titanium in the wrenches
Snap on salesmen are worried
Icahn should put titanium in its tools in the wrenches
Damn, ive been upgrading all of my tools from husky to icon for my mechanic handtools. I was on the ropes about their wrenches. But after this video, it looks like icon for the win. Snap on should be ashamed of themselves. Its obvious they have ripped off their customers for a long time. Make fun of HF all you want. All the teats ive seen show their tools hold up great for a fraction of the price. And that warranty is unbeatable.
@@El_Famous_W01f you're a smart man!
Nice video. Two things. The Icon had two more points of contact on the open end. So that isn't really a fair comparison. Second, Harbor Freight's quality control has never been what SnapOn's is. You could open another box of their wrenches and break half of them. Maybe that is changing.. I'm also not a SnapOn fanboy, I in fact own a lot of Harbor Frieght tools because I was poor AF most of my life. Their power tools have become usable in the last few years. And I've personally broken a LOT of their hand tools in the last 30 years.
Mr subaru is a clown
This fanboy doesnt believe even if the proof is in his face
The owners of snapon should go to prison for the amount of money they’ve stolen from people. Price gouging. It’s like apple with their iPhones accept 10x worse. Atleast an iPhone cost under 2k.
@@bobbuilder-wo9tvThe big investment companies own Snap-On, Apple, and everything else. And yes, they should be in prison
Prison? Why? Which of the owners forced people to buy Snap On tools against their will? They didn't steal anyone's money, they exchanged goods for money at an agreed upon price. A full on stupid price? No question about it. But everyone who owns the tools is or was willing to pay that price. To me Apple is on one hand a different story. Not because of the prices that people are clearly willing to pay, but because their latest and greatest offering is usually obsolete six months later when the iphone (next number) comes out. I say on one hand, because on the other, everyone knows this or should know this by now, and they pay for and buy the latest and greatest anyway.
I am always surprised when people are upset at a successful business model, even for a product that may be overrated and overpriced. I've always felt both about snap on, but they sell a product that people want, at a price that they are willing to pay, produced by workers that took a job at an agreed wage. When workers aren't paid enough, they quit. When consumers aren't happy with the price or quality, they don't buy it or buy something else.
Might this test prompt some blowback? Of course, it already has. Loss in sales? Probably so. What happens when that happens? Well, either they lower the price or they raise the quality. This happens a lot in life in a lot of different ways. When you are the best at something, and you have been for a long time, you tend to rest on your laurels while everyone else works very hard at getting better. Snap On just needs to hit the gym is all. That usually results in better strength and cutting the fat, both literally and figuratively. Sorry I ramble so much.
Too much money for snap on tools
I have never wasted money on Snap-On but I always defended their hand tools as being the best (their electronic stuff is trash). This makes me wonder why they are even around. For what Snap-On charges I would expect a massage and 5 course meal.
They aren't the best
Fanboy feels like pissing on the icon
I love this so much!!!
@@SilentCanary me too. Feels like justice served
I've got both sets of Icon anti-slips, and they are great. So are the double-open end wrenches. They're nothing to roll your eyes at. You can see the Snappy arrogance eating that big guy up inside. They're charging 400% more for something thats really only a "little cosmetically" better. It's eating his brain! I bet they still bad mouth Icon now because this has made them that much more mad. If the price difference wasn't so crazily large, this wouldn't be that big of a deal. But wow, 500 bucks vs. about $125 is a huge difference.
I'm not bad mouthing Snap-on, either. They're still really nice. But then, i dont own my own garage or make a thousand bucks a week anymore either.
Well, here’s one that will put a dent in harbor freight’s ego. I’ve had problems with the harbor freight 3/4 drive ratchet taking off the lawnmower blade mount bolts. The problem I’ve had is the harbor freight 3/4 drive ratchet won’t take it off at all no matter how hard I pull, or get on the other side of it and push. It just won’t do it. So my grandpa has a 3/4 drive Snap-On ratchet. I grab it, and put the same harbor freight socket on it for the bolt. And while putting about half the strength into it, it takes it right off. So if you ask me what I think is happening inside the harbor freight ratchet is the ratchet paws are bowing causing the torque level I’m putting into it to drop off and it never reaches the torque level required to take the nuts off. And the Snap-On ratchet paws are not bowing, and instead holding tight and solid against the ratchet gear, and actually doubling the torque I’m putting into it, and taking the nuts off with half the effort required. So if you ask me Snap-On is still better just based off of that experience alone. I’m definitely not a professional mechanic or anything, but that’s still a scenario I think is quite valuable to consider. Plus Snap on hand tools are USA made, harbor freight is either China or Taiwan. So I guess at least with a snap-On you’re supporting America, and American jobs, and with harbor freight you’re supporting a communist country that makes harbor freight tools using forced child labor in sweat shops so the price can be much lower.
@@hunterprowsemrereviews9141 Hand ratchet? Is one longer? Sounds like you just need a breaker bar. As for sweatshops, SO workers only make $39k while the bankers that own SO make 20% net profit (which is 4-5x most companies)
@@robertmckinney it is a hand ratchet, neither one is longer than the other. Both the exact same length since harbor freight compares its hand tools to Snap-On, I doubt they would make there hand ratchet shorter than the Snap-On, instantly giving the Snap-On hand ratchet the advantage in leverage. It’s the ratchet paws inside the head that are of different quality steel. That’s the difference. The harbor freight ratchet paws are bending, because it’s a low tempered steel. The Snap-On ratchet paws are of much much higher quality steel and, are high tempered. Yes a breaker bar probably would’ve been the more proper tool for that, but as I stated I’m not a professional mechanic, and I could only use the tools that were on hand. Given both hand ratchet are the same length, and the same 3/4” drive, and the harbor freight hand ratchet couldn’t break the nuts loose, but the Snap-On one could is my whole point. Also note too that that nut is torqued to specifically 80 ft lbs, as calls for in the manual of the riding lawn mower. I install those nuts with a torque wrench set to 80 ft lbs. It’s not a terribly difficult nut to break loose at that torque. The harbor freight hand ratchet should’ve been able to easily break that nut loose either way, and it couldn’t. The Snap-On hand ratchet broke it loose with ease using the harbor freight socket.
lol talk about free market on your competitors turf
I use Wright wrenches.
I wonder why that company doesn't do tool trucks?..I've heard they are top notch, and USA made, but I have no experience with them....
@@dyer2cycle I have yet to see a tool truck for Wright products but as a Mechanic that builds High Precision Machines. I’ve been very successful with their products. I have zero snap on products in my tool box and I’ve successfully built multi million dollar machines. It’s the user not the tool. Don’t let them Snap On fool you, there are better cost effective products but I use more power tools than hand tools so I can’t be of good advice. Just test it out and it’s your own preference. Tools are only meant to be used certain way but I will always trust American made Wright tools.
@@aznninja17 I guess my question about Wright, is not that they have great quality tools, which I have no doubt they do, but is how they stay in business, or will continue to do so, without a tool truck or significant retail presence?..I think of them much like S-K which have long been one of my favorites..and now, to my dismay, have been sold out to the Chinese..honestly, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, as S-K, as long as I can remember, have had a tiny or non-existent retail presence, and no tool truck..and thus difficult to obtain..I know if they had had either, my tool boxes would contain far more S-K tools than they do. I do buy some tools online, but I believe many/most wrench turners are like me,and want to lay their hands on a tool and see it for real rather than buy them all online from a tool seller on Ebay or wherever...I have only 2-3 Wright tools for the same reasons. Looks like Wright could get into auto parts stores, or major retailers and tout themselves as a premium "Made In USA" offering. And maybe have a tool truck, although I believe that tool trucks are probably on their way out....
Happens to the best. Don't hate, congratulate.
Are those snap on flank drive wrenches? Are the icon wrenches just plain open end wrenches. I think the flank drive cut into the nylon causes it to round.
@@rickhammar1636 They're SO Flank Drive vs the Icon version. The nut is from SO's own demo test for Flank Drive
The Icon are anti-slip. The equivalent to flank drive.
Put the icon on the right side, maybe since your right handed, your using more force pushing down!!
@@ronaldbrosius7488 in later vids they tried every combination with same result. They found both wrenches would twist the head off of a grade 8 bolt