PETERBILT 349 FRAME STRETCH PT1 THE TEAR DOWN!
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2023
- IN THIS VIDEO WE START WORKING ON THIS PETERBILT 349. THE FRAME IS TOO SHORT FOR IT'S INTENDED USE. WE NEED TO REMOVE EVERYTING OFF OF THE FRAME FROM THE CAB BACK. IT ALSO HAS AN ISSUE WITH THE CLUTCH. SO WE NEED TO PULL THE TRANSMISSION AND REPLACE THAT AS WELL. WE NEED TO INSPECT EVERYTHING AS WE DISASSEMBLE AND ORDER ANY REPAIR PARTS. WE GET THE TRUCK STRIPPED DOWN START FORMING THE PLAN FOR THE STRETCH. HOPE YOU ENJOY!!
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The amount of rust y’all have to deal with amazes me. I bought an 79 international F1954 factory double frame dump truck in the late 80’s and sold it in the early 2000’s and the frame looked like new still. In Texas off road in the mud and sand zero bad rust. That salt is bad stuff on your roads.
There are many ways to cut and splice a truck frame. The 45 degree cut seams to be a industry engineering best practice as far as I know. You have a big project on your hands. And yes it’s an absolute that the frame needs a glove to double it for strength. To take stress of any weld joints. 👍look good so far once it’s stripped so the full picture of the current frame conditions are no longer hidden.
I watch your builds for one reason. INTEGRITY ! You are an inspiration to always do it right, and I do not even build trucks. This information can be transferred to any job. Thanks J. C. you are one of the best!
JC is a rare breed of man that we rarely get to see anymore. NO cutting corners and cheaping out! He knows what he wants the end product to be and he builds to that standard!
JCS, I really admire your integrity and concern for the highest quality and safety of your builds. Sadly you're not a commercial shop! So there are too many guys out there building sloppy and dangerous installations on commercial vehicles that we all share the highways with. I couldn't believe how bad that other truck was that also belongs to your friend! Thanks for showing the right way!
I like watching these type of videos. I learn a lot from you JC even though I will never do anything like this but I just really enjoy fabrication videos!
I was just wondering about that truck today! Glad he’s choosing the right path with you… can’t wait to see you tear into the other one
What a beauty! Excited to see the JC touch.
Your wife Is and absolute treasure!!!!!
Nice project. Looking forward to the build.
Glad your friend is rethinking his truckand that you decided to support him.
Great Video J.C. Lot of work a lot, Thanks for sharing this with us.. Always watching 👍👍
You sir are a true craftsman and don’t mind getting dirty👍
JC thanks for sharing your adventures, I enjoy watching what you are doing!!!! 🤗🤗🤗
I’m glad the guy came to you. Paying for knowledge will be rewarding. It’s unfortunate he had the other truck done wrong but getting it right will be good.
100% truth ! My thoughts as well.
Always a pleasure to hang around people who do it right, or dont do it at all.
I don’t know how this channel appeared, but I’m hooked. Love watching & listening to great explanations. Also good editing. Thanks for the content.
i dont know what or how you got here but we are happy to have you.
JC I learn so much from your videos thank you for sharing your videos.
Great video J.C.Smith it's a nice project. Looking forward to the next video on this truck stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
from what I have seen [watching him work] he always has a very good reason for what he does, and how he does it.
I’m hanging along for the ride JC. you got a lot of work ahead of you and I like the way you’re thinking this out by servicing the clutch kit while everything is out makes perfect sense. Looking forward to this build.
You the Man Mr.J.C. love your work! Y'all take care.
Excited to follow along on this build!
first i am so glad your friend has decided to go with you doing the tank conversion that other rig was a disaster looking for a place to occur thank you for everyone who wont know out there on the road that the truck your making replaced a rolling accident
Love watching your vids. I miss doing this kind of work
I like how you break down the how and why of the work that you're doing.
Wow ! Excellent video !!!
All of your assessments and options presented are logically thought out and make complete sense.
Structurally, you have covered everything and the throw out bearing issue was a bonus reason for removing the transmission ... gaining more needed access. Looking forward to the next part of this video. It's always refreshing to watch and listen to a skilled person with considerable experience in their comfort zone. Your clearly are the right man for this job. Respect.
I love these frame stretch projects!
Great video , can't wait for next one . 👍
So glad to see 'The Rest of the Story" !
Cheers
Love that style of truck.
Our FAVORITE DIY show on YT, not even close…!
Looks like it will be straight forward from here!
What a beautiful truck! 🙂 Kinda hope he’s keeping the 20-inch Daytons 🤟🏼 Will be following this build like a bloodhound after a scent 😎
You are so through and knowledge I once called you the Johnathan W of trucks love your videos
i remember that.
YES Another JC Smith project!! Thanks
Excited for a new build
Good luck my friend, that's a lot of work & fighting that rust is miserable. All are good options U spoke of. I myself would have shopped for a different truck, like a clean southern truck the proper length I needed. Thank U for posting.
if another truck was an option, that is what would have been done. i have 2 trucks that are perfect for this tank but i am not giving them away. this is the most cost effective option for him.
I so glad you stuck to your guns, It'll be nice to see it done Right! Great Video!
That’s a big project to take on. Plus all that rust doesn’t help things. Looking forward to the build series.👍
I’m glad your friend JC bite the bullet and took your advice on his truck’s. We all know he’s a good working man and and his income makes the decisions as in me as well. As all ways JC love your work. Cheers Steve 🍺🍺🍺. Sorry your wife’s work as well 🌹🌹🌹
Friendship trumps all. Good on all of you. Y'all stay warm and dry and safe.
I’ve been air hammering the frame of my 2003 f-250. This road salt does an absolute terrible number on the steel. So many parts needed replaced, but I just keep telling myself when it’s done, and it’s done right, it’s gonna be great.
In 90s i worked @Peterbilt in test dept. One truck i was working on had rear alignment issues, turns out a frame rail needed replaced. To see the frame assembly guys unbolt & pull out rail then slide replacement in while truck parked right outside the back door, was pretty damn cool.
that is what needed done to this. would have made a much cleaner end result
Need the Jaws of Life or similar device to pop those rust jacked liners out.
Wow. What a job. But you are doing an excellent job as always
Love your channel. Always learn a lot.
That's what I like about it, you do it right
I like that clutch jack.
Ive done alot of what your doing and its alot of work ive fixed meny tri axel trucks with dubble frame horable seperate them like you and that liner
Happy new year to the best camerawoman and interior expert on RUclips!!!!! 😁
Thank you for doing it right
I've just found your Channel so I'm playing catch up but you ain't no fool & you know your Trade, good job mate 👍👍👍
welcome and thanks for watching!
What ever u do it will be a real good job.
I like your idea of bringing in a piece to ..... running out of words here .... I am so darn sick that I can barely hold my head up
so sorry to hear that. hope you feel better soon.
Man that salt really takes its toll. I tend to agree with your engineering and I am sure it will get the 4 layer of paint treatment too. When complete it will last a considerable amount of time, unlike the deathtrap. Keep the content coming.
I eventually started to fix my cars (inspired by You, among others), so don't have much time to watch your movies just after release. Greetings from a mechanic from EU.
Jc there are several heavy truck shops and salvage places here in central ms that may have what you need. I don’t have a way to transport parts but can help a little on lining stuff up. It might be worth spending a day or two on the road to significantly cut the wait time down.
i picked up some sections today. fingers crossed they look good once i strip them down.
Mr Jc Hope all is well. Tell your grandson hello. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
thanks mr. hal. his name is memphis and he loves watching you all.
Do you get to keep the pieces/parts that you take off that the owner can't use? If so, good stuff for other projects or repairs. I've commented on this before but it can NEVER be spoken too much about and that is the amazing support that you get from your partner and precious wife! I see only a few on RUclips that this happens. She is an absolute jewel of a woman! Not only supports what you do but gets in there and helps!
A friend will help get it done.
A good friend will tell you when you'r re doing it cheaply, dangerously and wrong. And then help you do it right. Good plan for the stretch frame, the original frame looks reinforceable. The inner and outer layers added will minimize the original frames multitude of bolt holes. Viable plan so far.
hello from the Netherlands .
thanks for the video JC .
Sincerely Hollandduck
I think you got a good plan sounds like option 1 is the best and option 3 is the fastest. It all depends on how you mount the tank but you can make it somewhat part of the frame. Check out Diller out of PA they build and mount a lot of manure tankers on trucks. Good stuff J.C.
Time wise I think you are going to be forced into doing a frame splice Parts wise this is going to be expensive. You will do a great job on this project but it will be time consuming. Thanks for taking us along! Tom
i can only spare so much time. picked up frame sections today. the splice starts tomorrow.
Enjoyed the video J.C 🔧🔩 Interested to see what route you take. Hope you and Mrs.S are doing well 👍
Great camera man
Clicked on video, hit thumbs up, then started watching!!!!
how have have you been my friend? i certainly miss seeing your videos. i sure hope you and all of yours are doing well.
I'd cut off as you pointed too doing.
That frame is toast. Even try'n find a used truck with a good frame? Or salvage yard for part of one? (Even a double frame?)
We used to install Grove & Mid-Equipment rollbacks. There was always long cutoff frame tails that were compatible. I remember 5 Int'l Cab n Chassis, jacked drivers forward to facilitate the cab to trunion for hoist n dump bodies. The cutoff parts were a treasure trove later on down the road. The boss even sold one of'em the frame parts to a competitor.
Back in the late 60s, a friend of mine had a 750 Ford double frame twin screw, we cut it, put 7' in it. He went to a local shop had them form the frame rails of thicker cold rolled material but to fit up with the outside dimensions. The vertical cuts were staggered, after I welded them in they were fish-plated. He got a factory driveshaft before cutting anything to ensure the right finish. These were all done in a rust belt state.
Be a shame to build off of the existing frame n have it fail on down the road. This'll make a nice piece when you get it completed. Anxious to see how you get there.
🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸 👍
Glad he choose a better truck to put that tank on , plus it’ll be done right with no cutting corners to just get it on the road .
this is getting a different tank.
Someone loves their blue tele-handler.
O-H-I-O Porter greetings!🇺🇸 Happy New Year! Frames are quite an interesting topic! I’m glad you’re doing this job…there’s plenty of things to cover here. All that rust buildup between the frame & liner can really cause problems! 😔 Some people don’t even worry about such things I guess. There are guys that have done a straight frame cut, weld the piece & then add the outer bracing…and they’re happy. I’ve heard several pros & cons. I think with all the rust involved it could use more area for the weld. So you’re gonna have an inner liner & an outer “L shaped” liner as well? That’s like having 3 rails then. Now that will take care of any issues. Good stuff! 🥰😳✌️
JC, think-your best bet is long frame rails from the Junk yard, and definitely butt 2 rails per side. Perhaps, U can keep the existing rails to make it easier for the holes and alignment
Did some auto cars back in the eighty’s double frame plus 1/2” plate down the outside of the rail were long wheel base built for the oil fields
I think you have a good plan. I've seen several 30ton, and 75ton wreckers doubled frame that way. Add the cut off and add the additional frame from front to rear. I'm sure you'll do a great job.
Hope it,s better be safe peace
P.G. Adams brake can brake 50 FEET of 1/2" grade 100 steel!
I would love to tour that place. Or at least see the brake at work !!
That would make some awesome content, if you were to go watch them make your rails.
That said, I'm sure they were the highest price.
I will also say, they ALWAYS hit whatever number I ask for.
Top quality!!
Where is Adams Brake located? I'd like to give them a call on a frame I'm planning to stretch as well.
This is great to watch this and see what’s involved. I have an 81 CO9670 that was stretched to a box truck at some point, I think I’d like to do the opposite and return it to a tractor. This is helpful. Also is that your wife? You should mic her up! All the best! :)
Life would be next to impossible without your telehandler JC. 😮
NAH. just have to be a little more resourceful. where there is a will there is a way.
I was wondering when the needle gun would come out. Great tool for rust scale. I have one I use on my car hauler for maintenance.
I vote for the cutoff!
Gonna be a big job no matter how you do it. I think a cut off would be a nice fit. Upgrades the wheel hubs, gives you a cleaner frame and could get a more favorable gear ratio if desired
he wants to re-use the original axles and suspension. i suggested walking beam or slipper spring in place of air bags due to the liquid surging but he refused.
@@j.c.smithprojects interesting feller that guy.
My 1990 378 had adjustable crossmembers. This was a pleasant surprise when I decided to double frame the truck.
Safety first.
I think you’re on the right track. Gotta be strong. I would weld on a good used frame if you can find one.
I imagine you tried PG Adams for the rails, they shipped me a set of rails within a week of my ordering them. That was a year or so ago. They were really easy to work with, although I imagine a local shop may be able to offer better pricing.
yep. they were the most expensive. we have found a cost effective option.
👍thanks for your hard work and sharing your knowledge 👍🤔you have used bus frames before with a cab swap and the price of steel 🤔
My hubby watches your videos. I have a 92 Freightliner cabover needs a lot of work and needs the frame stretched. We love in Cleveland.Ohio. Family in Canton. So we were excited to see you are close to us. Please let me know if you can do some work for us❤
i get contacted often from folks asking if i would work on their truck. i wish i could help everyone.. i appreciate that folks like yourself are willing to put their truck in my hands but i just cant. im not a repair facility. i am slow and like things a certain way. few people understand just how much time, effort and money it takes to build a truck the way i like to do it. most dont want to invest that much into repairs that they can have done at a repair shop for pennies on the dollar.
30:19 most weld per bond is a sinusoidal line. It's actually what they used to do when they build battleships. They didn't know how powerful welds would be (as a bonding method with that metal), so they have "teeth" at every join, which describe a sinusoidal line. One meter of welds is actually something like 4 stretched out.
At least he got smart and brought it to you to do. The other shop probably would've just reused all that old worn out crap over again
YES!!!!! SHOW EM HOW TO DO IT
im just looking to do the best job i can. so this is a good reliable and safe truck.
Have you heard of alfab. In Columbus ohio. When I worked at Bradshaw we made tanker trucks and if we needed something like that. That is who we used. By the way I've never commented on anything but I like your work and channel. And if you have already thought of them sorry for wasting your time.
called but have not got a return call yet. your not wasting my time. happy to see you in the comments.
It keeps amazing me how you can do all that work by yourself and the “valuable” help of Your wife. I’m Shute you’re lying to us. You probably have a crew of 5 to 7 people, and every time you are about to shoot a video you kindly ask them to live the shop. Kkkkk greetings from Brazil
no help just us 2. i dont work nearly as hard as my father or grandfather.,
They make a water-proof wax like material you can apply as rust-proofing between frame rails to prevent future rust that won’t wash away.
JC with box trucks you have can you re use those frame rails to save time and money I did my 71 kenworth using a 4 spring int corporate clip and used mack frame for a liner just an idea
Sooooo happy the guy decided to let you tear that death trap apart and do it right.
I noticed that you didn’t wear your dark glasses when using the plasma cutter. To me the “fire “ looks the same as the welder 👨🏭, what’s the difference in terms of eye damage from looking at the light from one versus the other.
i was using the torch. doesnt seem to bother me.
There is a chart online at Lmt tanks. It shows what wheelbase and the measurements of tank .that helps on setting it up for axle weight. The chart is called the tank wizard.
Hi jc. Love the video you gave me some points that we did some right things on the frame stretch we've done ,1st the diagonal cut.2nd the overlap of the reinforced frame.( We've put 20" over from the cut-off are) i was also concerned of the strenght frame.(between streer axle and drive axle, where most of the load will be..(in which we cut the frame in between) and reinforced it with ¼ thick steel plates.(not frame cut outs)on the outside so as not to disturb the cross members.and one question. Will the welds weaken the frame "if" full welded? (The whole reinforcement, front till the end,about 7ft lenght.we done it at 6inches full w/ 4in gap in between)thanks i'm really learning a lot from you.
i would not add a plate and weld it the full length. the frame has to flex. i dont want a frame too rigid as it can crack.
I can sleep well tonight. That last truck literally gave me nightmares. Good to know it'll be getting done up right (sorry for the owner's time and pocketbook though)
he doesnt have the money to do this. i am fronting the cost and he will pay me back.
Have seen a shop that extened frame labled no weld. Can be done if frame is heat treated correctly
those needle scalers were built for that work mate, i use mine doing up car trailers
New subscriber here. If you need frame components, you could try Zimm O Matic LLC in Denver, Pa. They might be able to help you with a liner if they aren't already one of the places you have checked with
31:10 - I like the idea of a cut off from another truck with a smaller liner!
that is what is happening.
That going be a lot of work. I helped doing on semi wrecker
isnt the first and certainly wont be the last!
@@j.c.smithprojects I bet. I don't know any other ways than what u said