I've used this a few times. I don't get a tap but the throat pressure & arm trap definitely gives me an opportunity to easily create distance or hip escape out. Can't remember where I go from there though.
So nice, did pull it last night. Finally i can do something frome been on the bottom of side mount without been flexible. I was always freaking out. Now i want to be there :-) Thank you for showing. Oss.
Some chokes can be challenging when first applied. Try to find the proper hand, wrist and collar placement. Understanding the proper placement and what you want to achieve with that helps a lot. The fact that you are getting the tricep slicer instead of the neck shows you need to relax with the strength applied and try to focus more on positioning. The goal is to block the carotid artery on both sides of the neck, with that in mind, keep working on your proper placement and keep practicing. Go slow before rotating fast for it. It is a surprising and efficient choke when done properly.
Been trying this for a week now. People just tap to a tricep slicer too. I'll try that positioning thing also, but they all pretty much see me coming a mile away now and just avoid any side controls with me now ! lol
If you have a solid grip around their arm, then they will have trouble going to north south but they definitely have options to fight to avoid the choke. They can try to turn to north south, they can try to raise up and fight with the crossface arm, etc. but if they do these things, you at least have a chance to escape side control which to me is a big plus
Wait, when the choke is already set up, once going north south just tighten the choke as the lapel choke is across? Should he be trying to elevate and scrambling for mount since both hands are already engaged, so theres no more frame to prevent?
The spiderweb grip on the arm prevents your opponent from going either way. Try troubleshooting this technique and playing around with situational. The spiderweb grip is key. There is also a bottom side keylock on shoulder submission. It is a very sneaky and powerful submission. You can also, use this in no gi, but it is keylock submission vs choke.
Not very easy to do so. Remember the neck would be caring the attackers weight around it and the pressure is strong enough to get you unconscious quick, when applied properly. Give it a try, practice it many times slowly at first, it is an efficient choke.
This is a great move. Always wanted to learn a choke from the bottom position. Thanks 🙏🏾 🇨🇦
This camera person helped much, thanks, love it
I absolutely love this I’ve been working on it for a few years now. But you could also do it from the top also
wow - thanks for sharing!! can’t wait to try it!!
Wow. Nice one. Definitely look to incorporate this into training.
Love from Chicago, Amazing lesson!
I've used this a few times. I don't get a tap but the throat pressure & arm trap definitely gives me an opportunity to easily create distance or hip escape out. Can't remember where I go from there though.
I will definitely try this. Outstanding
thats super cool and looks pretty easy
AHH mate this is sick!
Very sneaky. I’ll have to try and see if it works
Thanks for sharing
That is fucking brilliant. Using that immediately.
So nice, did pull it last night. Finally i can do something frome been on the bottom of side mount without been flexible. I was always freaking out. Now i want to be there :-)
Thank you for showing. Oss.
beautiful, thx for posting
Haha this is so good! You got a new subscriber! : )
Looking nice, we will try
Very Cool!
I'm probably not doing it correctly but I've had people tap due to pressure on the tricep rather than the choke... almost like a tricep slicer.
Some chokes can be challenging when first applied. Try to find the proper hand, wrist and collar placement. Understanding the proper placement and what you want to achieve with that helps a lot. The fact that you are getting the tricep slicer instead of the neck shows you need to relax with the strength applied and try to focus more on positioning. The goal is to block the carotid artery on both sides of the neck, with that in mind, keep working on your proper placement and keep practicing. Go slow before rotating fast for it. It is a surprising and efficient choke when done properly.
Been trying this for a week now. People just tap to a tricep slicer too. I'll try that positioning thing also, but they all pretty much see me coming a mile away now and just avoid any side controls with me now ! lol
@@EvoXalex That's a win for sure!
Havent got it down to consistently tap, but the arm lock and neck pressure usually lets me drive to a better position
Ty
The beauty is even if you don’t get the tap the pressure alone will likely force the top guy to compromise his position & facilitate an escape!
What was this filmed with?
That's slick..
Any no-gi variation?
That’s butter!
If you switch to far side control would be proper defense??? The effectiveness would be in how quick is applied I would assume???
That is a thing of beauty....
Does anyone happen to know the name of this submission?
thats a sneaky one
Soo cool
back again. had to review, tried to hit it tonight and failed. they dont see this coming.
Thanks for posting. Does this one have a name?
Bread Cutter
@@FrxBass I... I read right past that in the title, didn't I... Whoops, and thank you!
@@michaelc8823 No worries ahah
LEGIT
I just got a chubby! Practicing immediately!
Boa
come on man, you guys got to name these chokes. now i got to think of something to remember it. any suggestions?
India choke
Nice choke, but if the top person goes north south will it still be effective? Please help do a longer video regarding the "IF's". Thank you very much
If you have a solid grip around their arm, then they will have trouble going to north south but they definitely have options to fight to avoid the choke. They can try to turn to north south, they can try to raise up and fight with the crossface arm, etc. but if they do these things, you at least have a chance to escape side control which to me is a big plus
@@phoenixamaranth Thank you very much for the insight. Really helps
Wait, when the choke is already set up, once going north south just tighten the choke as the lapel choke is across? Should he be trying to elevate and scrambling for mount since both hands are already engaged, so theres no more frame to prevent?
The spiderweb grip on the arm prevents your opponent from going either way. Try troubleshooting this technique and playing around with situational. The spiderweb grip is key. There is also a bottom side keylock on shoulder submission. It is a very sneaky and powerful submission. You can also, use this in no gi, but it is keylock submission vs choke.
Looks like there's no no-gi variation
I get wrist locked with my hand that grabs the collar. I've only successfully pulled this off on a white belt.
Trying grabbing higher inside the collar , past the person’s chest/shoulder. That should help.
Cant they just stand up?
Not very easy to do so. Remember the neck would be caring the attackers weight around it and the pressure is strong enough to get you unconscious quick, when applied properly. Give it a try, practice it many times slowly at first, it is an efficient choke.
@@MACBJJ what about in no gi?
Tried this today. All he had to do was turn his head to his right... ?
Cannot wait to catch @terminal_lifer with this 🤯