He keeps saying he's a fan of Trials of Mana, but it doesn't come across that way to me nor did I hear any compare/contrasting elements of the two discussed. I played the fan-translated version back in 2000, grew up with snes era rpgs. I take this game as what it is, a children's action-rpg that does exactly what it needs to be. It's like the comfort food of rpgs with a low budget. He just doesn't sound like the target audience for the game. He's entitled to his opinion, but a 5 is quite harsh. Square is testing the water with these smaller IP, as stated by them, and I hope they have success so I can see more of this. Maybe one day we'll get a more adult, high budget Mana mainline.
i have being playing the mana games since the days of snes this game is really really good they have thought of every the review of this game is so so wrong
don't know about this review. Not trying to argue but I'm about 10 hrs deep and I'm loving it. The cast are interesting, some more than others. The combat is awesome and super fun. The spells and abilities are different but fun to mess with. I love the boss fights so far. The side quests are kinda generic, yes, but the combat makes up for it. Musics is also phenomenal . Honestly, I'd give the game at least a 6 or maybe a 7 out of 10. I'm hoping it only goes up from now. I'm not sure why the reviewer was so negative. He makes it sound like manas worse than alot of flops from this past year
That was my thought to. A lot of the things I saw him doing were things I only do when I'm messing around and normally seeing what happens if I get stuck or if it's possible to find a glitch
Visions of Mana is all about simplicity. I like the extremely simple sidequests and exploration. Sure, I would love a Mana series take on Elden Ring or TotK, but this is the best game I’ve played all year!
This guy didn’t understand the assignment lol. Mana series characters so the serious depth? A complex story and motivation? Yeah…they intentionally designed it not to be that and it is better for it. I do not want to invest in games that require I pay attention to every line to catch reference and clues woven together, or have some payoff because I really understood them earlier than some issue or conflict became obvious. This has never been the franchise to scratch that itch, nor should it be.
I started the game today and i'm eight hours in (didn't leave "the first port" yet). I think it's cute, refreshing and not too complicated (but there are 4 levels of difficulty). Many many side quests (that, for the most of them, you don't HAVE to do - but if you do, you'll get a lot of rewards) and a clear story with a few twists here and there. It's exactly what i expected : an RPG, with a lot of cute animals, and with the possibility to grind A LOT (hidden coins, coffers EVERYWHERE). Even from the beginning, you have access to regions that you know you will come back to (with specific places where the ennemies are level 51… and you are level 3, 4 or 5). There are a ton of things you know you will be coming back to (magical rocks, closed temples, etc. which you run in front of from the very start, and can't use yet)… All in all, i'm very satisfied because it's exactly what i thought it would be… ☺
I think a good review would point out the bad and the good points of a game, surely flavored by the personal and subjective opinion of the reviewer, but watching this felt more like watching someone rant about something, instead of giving a good overview of the different aspects - like, I don't even feel informed now. Looking at all the other reviews out there, I feel like the person reviewing really didn't wanted to play this game at all. This felt a lot like someone who does not like fast food, giving McDonalds a 2 star rating, listing as reasons all the things that make McDonalds a fast food chain. Like, surprise - it was not your cup of tea, that's fine, but a good review is not equal to just stating a personal opinion.
In order to find invisible walls (and there are some) you would have to ignore the mini-map which clearly shows the boundaries of explorable areas. Not a big deal honestly, explorable areas are huge imo.
He mad cause MANA characters and a story isn't deep and that the combat system isn't complex? Ummm... It's a mana game. Looks fine to me and the invisible walls are clearly seen on the mini map. I think you've blown this out of proportion.
@@lucy-pero everything doesn't need to be the most complex thing ever and be as deep as the grand canyon. Simple things can be enjoyable, and many things are simple and always have been. To talk to the contrary is missing the boat. These have never been complex or deep so why expect it to be now
I agree with a lot of the others in these comments, I've been playing my shaft off with this game and I find it to be one of the best action rpg's in a while. The story is pretty interesting, dialogues definitely cheesy at times, but the collectibles are fun, the combat is SICK, Movement is sick, fast run, mounts, visuals are beautiful, and the music is awesome as well. What more could you want?
I’m yet to play it, will be picking it up tomorrow as I’m in NZ. But a point that most reviewers have stated is that the early game combat can come across as slow but once it opens up it’s one of the greatest arpg combat systems around. Due to that I don’t think the demo shows that part off well but it wouldn’t make sense to throw you into the middle with an abundance of systems to learn instantly.
I played the demo as well, and it felt just hollow. The 5 fits what I experienced in the demo. That the whole game is like that is kinda heart breaking.
@@kaynewoolley9104 People said that about the demo as well. I'm fairly certain that it's people that didn't try to use other characters and the customization options in the demo; some of the options available definitely were fast-paced. Personally I played the demo with kareena as a dancer most of the time and it was everything but slow. Thing is, the MC, which most people will I guess use intuitively, is a tank... Regarding the early game itself (in the full game) it doesn't strike me as particularly slow even with Val; in fact even less so than Val in the demo strangely enough.
@@vic137 I never said he was wrong, what? He sounded very negative his tone doesn’t sound he enjoyed or wanted to review the game. I’m not elaborating anything because I didn’t say he was wrong.
As a starting point I'd like to say I respect the score it gets, I will still buy and play the game and I expect I will enjoy it aswell. What I don't like about the review is the negative tone the entire review has attached to it feels like a reviewer got handed a game he really didnt wanna play at all and did it just to review it doesnt seem like a good combination. Because even if the game has some bad things I'm sure it has I did play the demo after all there are some upsides aswell but it felt like the reviewer focused mainly on the bad. And something I always find hillarious in these reviews that doesnt get a good score is they often focus alot of energy on gameplay and bugs while for games that get good or even great reviews they close their eyes and barely mention them even though some games was absolutly crawling with them at launch. There are games that has gotten 10s with tons of bugs with no mention of them in the reviews.
This is the only reviewer that gave it such a low score tbh even IGN gave it an 8 and they are usually giving JRPGS pretty mid scores in general. I don’t feel like the person who reviewed this actually plays JRPGS in general let alone someone familiar with the mana series.
This is a game that I want to play regardless what the reviewer said. The art style is so colourful and gorgeous. I'd rather play this than most Western games. I feel like the reviewer and Western gaming industry is jaded and doesn't understand gaming anymore. Even Black myth wukong & stellar blade, I would buy less than the interest I have for this game. Japan has this ability to create fantastical worlds that stimulate our imagination with positivity like no other country. This is what I love about Japanese games. Reminds me of the vibe of Spyro or Zelda.
The problem with poeple and review is that poeple who came here are the one who love the game not the way around and they get angry if there game get low score and start hating on the reviewer . to me this game look identical to trail of mana that was released couple of years ago so if you like that you will like this to as for me i hated the game everything about it was bad and i hate that square enix are releasing mutiple low quality rpg game . the movement look stiff and the combat look so bad the exploration look so bad also due to the maps being liener . the story is so uninteresting and the cinematic quality is also bad . but even than i dont go to some one who enjoy the game and insult him of his taste . because taste is subjective
@@ceirwanYou can still be a fan of a series and be very critical. Just personally hearing this guy I don’t think he is a fan of JRPGS in general let alone the mana series. None of their games are a 10/10 but I don’t think it’s near as bad as the reviewer is claiming 🤷
Same guy who gave a low score to Granblue Fantasy. Hard to take them seriously when they're so far off from the general consensus. As an avid JRPG fan, I can say I am absolutely loving the game so far, and the post-game looks amazing considering all the customization options!
That's your nostalgia talking. SD3 and SoM are possibly my favorite ones, period, and it is a lot like it; if you know why you like the mana serie (its atmosphere, the contrast between the cute design and harsh themes, Kikuta, etc) and not just because it is a "childhood game". Visions actually surprised me in that regard, it feels more like a mana game than I thought it'd be; which also explains why it's not the same market and public as, say, FF7R. Compared to the mess that was SD4, this is a masterpiece (then again, a LOT of things are masterpieces compared to SD4....) Although strictly speaking, I'd say that Vision's atmosphere is somewhat closer to SD3 than to SoM. But it fits with both.
I feel the same way after trying the demo. It's OK, but secret of mana was amazing. I'll definitely buy it as some point, but probably wait for a sale.
Invisible walls in a free roam area are soooo immersion shattering. Going through the same with Atlas Fallen currently. It's an automatic point taken off a game for me.
The same goes with Black Myth: Wukong although not open world some sections are very open and constantly thinking you can go somewhere just to hit an invisible barrier breaks immersion immediately.
The issue is Japanese games are like this. And you just have to accept it. When I turned on DQ 11, i was like holy linear path Batman! But if I let that deter me, I would have missed out on one of the best games I’ve ever played. At least they have jump buttons!
@@eradicatedpulse6896 in wukong it think its even worse, because the world looks so good, that you think every few minutes, "oh cool i could go there" just to realize, nope, its again an invisible wall. The game is great in other aspects but this is its big downside!
@@eradicatedpulse6896well yeah it’s a linear game and a boss rush game at that. Most Japanese games are like this with very few exceptions. I really don’t find invisible walls in these games immersion shattering because they aren’t open world so I kinda expect it.
I'm used to invisible walls or at least obvious roadblocks like shrubs blocking the path. As long as I have a map telling me where I can and can't go, I'm set. Though BM: Wukong doesn't have a map so I saw not how immersion shattering that was, but how easy it was to get lost.
You all are just malding because Square gave the publicity contract to IGN and you could only get the Blizzard one. Thought we wouldnt notice. Awful review btw.
He did not play the game...he says that no one in the world cares about people sacraficing them selfs and the story never deviates. The first 5 seconds is about people running away from sacraficing themselfs
"WaSN't tHis ThE sAMe pEop-" shut up. How do you guys still not get that big outlets like Gamespot and IGN have different reviewers who review different games and have drastically different opinions? Instead of relying on every review to be synonymous, why don't you do your homework and check who actually wrote the thing. Also, if you want to criticize a review, then you should actually play the game being reviewed. If you haven't then your opinion is worthless.
I have to agree the limited movement in settlements is stupendously absurd, story falls flat midway and the look of Val, Morley and especially Julei is absolutely ridiculous in either which outfit
Some valid points are made in this video. It is too easy to just look at the grade and say it is unfair compared to other reviews that rate the game much higher. I honestly don't think a lot of the issues are break points for me anyway and a lot of things can be fixed through patches. Things like bugs are usually fixed in a day one patch that probably wasn't available yet for review. I'm looking forward to mess around with the classes and weapons. Most reviewers really enjoy this part of the game. I really hope they fix double jump in towns, that is a very weird design choice, makes no sense and seems so easy to allow full movement in towns.
It seems weird to me to critique the double jump/air dash in towns thing. You can sprint and jump, everything is within reach. Towns have quests, shops, grizzly syrup and chests. Double jump air dash is for open areas and dungeons. I'm just glad they gave us a mount straight up in the first big area.
@@Highwind452 It is a minor annoyance, nothing game breaking. You do have some items on roofs which become very frustrating to collect in towns because suddenly you need precise timing to get on a roof. It just feels so unnecessary, why disable it in towns? One of my biggest annoyances with the FF7 remakes is the excruciating slow walking during a lot a character interactions. Or those cinematic crawls, just do a cutscene if you don't want players to run around... (also about FF7 remake). That bothered me a lot more than all those things mentioned about this game in the review. The only thing I agree with is the story and (most of) the characters. I only like Val and Morley, Julei is just entertaining. You also get some very weird drops in pace that could easily been avoided with some better streamlining. Like the massive backtracking later in the game and some random character moments way too late in the story. But no, not being able to double jump in towns did not ruin the game for me. It is not even worth a point reduction for a review if you ask me. I only need to do the black rabbit boss and aeva zahala (on hard) for my platinum trophy so I'm definitely enjoying the game. I think it is a lot of fun, but nothing really outstanding. I'd say the average grade of a 7.5 on metacritic is about right. I do feel like that it had more potential as minor improvements could have had a big impact on the game. A bit better streamlining a bit better gameplay pacing. I'm now in the end game and the battle system is only now reaching it's full potential after maxing more than one elemental plot and it's kind of sad that a lot of player will probably never actually see how great the battle system is when you get to mix multiple classes and the late game ability seeds.
If you approach this game like a throwback ps1/ps2 era jrpg brought to modern times, it’s easily at least an 8. And btw play on hard since it’s basically old school normal and game’s better with it.
Modern game urinals are out of touch with gamers. I wouldn't take it to heart, they're fading out of relevancy fast. As you can see, they're completely useless.
i thought of buying it, but if the game is so bad.... i do not know which other games i could. I just want to conter the weight of my other dark games with a more happy and chill ones like this.
The man who reviewed it knows his games. I myself, played the demo for 5 minutes, yelled YEP!, and uninstalled it and preordered immediately. I expect to enjoy it
This is the way all mana games are. The original snes games had an enemy glitch that made it require finesse related to attack timing and how the attack would land and you had to understand the game engine and work around it. Still was awesome. THEY NEED COUCH CO-OP DONE RIGHT FOR DLC. Yeah. i said it.
Despite some issues like the invisible walls the demo sold me. I appreciate this negative review for a different pov but generally feels like this dude just didn't want to review this specific game lol
Sure, dude sounds like he didn't like the game, but maybe that's because he didn't like it? Just because the game wasn't his cup of tea doesn't mean YOU won't like the game. There's an 11 minute video where he explains his perspective in great detail so you can take his criticisms and decide if those things are issues for you or not. That's the whole point of a review; to give you a subjective opinion to help you make a more informed decision on spending your money/time/effort on something. Everyone complains about reviewers being "paid shills" but really, ya'll just want to be the ones paying so the reviewer agrees with you😂.
This is barely a review, its more of a bitter rant about the game, the tone is so pretentious and blunt even terrible games can produce good reviews instead of sounding like the reviewer is cursing your entire bloodline.
Yeah but this isn’t some random dude with a you tube channel giving his opinion on a game. This a channel that professionally reviews games. They need to review it objectively and try to leave personal biases out of it, because it needs to be useful to everyone not just him and people like him. If this was his own channel, then fine. People who subscribe to him know what to expect and if you don’t like what he likes, then you just won’t watch him. But a professional review channel needs to not make the review about the reviewer.
This guy's braindead."I accidentally ran from fights a few times and came back the mobs had full hp." like are you serious? You have to seriously not be paying attention cause it takes a good 3 seconds for you to run from a fight while running into an invisible wall.Also game too hard=bad for this guy.What a real gamer. This is why beginner mode exists.I give this review a -1/10.
the story is a mana tale through and through with some modern twists. odd that some of the surprising story elements didn’t resonate with this player. i feel like the game was created for fans of the series. lots of call backs to characters and npc’s from older games makes it a joy to experience. it’s not for everyone, sure, but it’s far from a bad game. “hundreds of RPGs better than this” was a fascinating way to end the script. unfortunate review.
Arise is great I love trails and secret of mana and I'm hearing good things about it but I'd say get Arise since you can probably find it super cheap and hopefully after you're done with that there's a discount on this game
The game is beautiful, there are hints about where the missions are, like ninja Gaiden 2 on the Nintendo Switch, the problem is that the open world, the desire to explore everything and secondary missions or many together is good, but at first they can be left behind by We don't know which one to do first and then this mission may disappear, but it's cool, it's beautiful, I'll play it. I prefer the legend of mana style if the characters were drawn by hand, like the scenery with a larger size to show the details and with fluidity like a cartoon street of rage 4 would be better, a version with a wu Kong from oriental legends 2 igs pgm2 or Goku from saiyuki ps 1 with kusarigama as a ninja weapon Gaiden 2 from nintendo switch or urumi tungar from indivisible half wizard monk pirate samurai enchanter morpher, Sierra with spear or and haladie a lupine valkiria cleric, an archer Gilbert or another character a grasshopper perhaps , Shiloh with sword gladiator swordsman, Nicollo or a birdman with daggers or fists, or daena with daggers or fists, escad and his sword, the birdman or Nicollo with axe, Serafina with sledgehammer fists or knives, elazul same style red mage musketeer fencer, larc the hellhound now with two swords and shields the magical warrior half knight and samurai and pearl maga with a staff I think it would look great, in the same style as the legend of mana on the ps1 with the improvements made, in a traditional RPG or tactics, in the styles valkirye profile and indivisible, blooddstained The cursed of The moon 2, action adventure like herc's adventure Beyond oasis avatar The burning earth online multiplayer and beat em up, or a remake with additions of two or three more playable characters, perhaps more phases and changes just in the characters' graphics, I think it would be a cooler remake version and boomerang as a weapon in the game's inventory too, but it's very beautiful, yes, I play Thiago da Silva Lisboa, new animes, ovas and mangas from the mana series are welcome also. O jogo tá lindo, tem dica sinal da onde são estão as missões como o ninja Gaiden 2 do nintendo switch o problema é que mundo aberto da vontade de explorar tudo e missões secundárias ou muitas juntas é bom mas de começo podem serem deixadas para trás por não sabermos qual fazer primeiro e depois essa missão pode desaparecer, mas tá legal tá lindasso, jogasso. Eu prefiro o estilo legend of mana se os personagens fossem desenhados a mão como o cenário com tamanho maior para mostra os detalhes e com fluidez como de desenho animado street of rage 4 ficaria melhor, uma versão com um wu Kong de oriental legends 2 igs pgm2 ou Goku de saiyuki ps 1 com kusarigama como arma de ninja Gaiden 2 de nintendo switch ou urumi tungar de indivisible meio bruxo monge pirata samurai encantador morfador, Sierra com lança ou e haladie uma lupina valkiria cleriga, um arqueiro Gilbert ou outro personagem um gafanhoto talvez, Shiloh com espada espadachim gladiador, Nicollo ou um homem pássaro com adagas ou punhos, ou daena com adagas ou punhos, escad e seu espadão, o homem pássaro ou Nicollo com machado, Serafina com marreta punhos ou facas, elazul mesmo estilo red mage mosqueteiro esgrimeiro, larc o cão do inferno agora com duas espadas e escudos o guerreiro mágico meio cavaleiro e samurai e pearl maga com um cajado acho que ficaria show, no mesmo estilo do legend of mana do ps1 com as melhorias digitadas, em RPG tradicional ou e tactics, nos estilos valkirye profile e indivisible, blooddstained The cursed of The moon 2, ação aventura como herc's adventure Beyond oasis avatar The burning earth multijogadores online e beat em up, ou um remake com adições de mais uns dois ou três personagens jogáveis talvez mais fases e mudança só nos gráficos dos personagens acho que já seria uma versão remake mais legal e boomerang como arma no inventário do jogo também, mas está muito lindo sim jogasso Thiago da Silva Lisboa, novos animes, ovas e mangas da série mana são bem vindos também.
Cheers for the review. This is so disappointing to see. Have to say, it was not great to hear it was to be yet another single player game. Secret of Mana and Mana 2 were multi player that existed approximately 30 years ago. They clearly dropped that to reduce development as it was too challenging. They should have made the effort bring that back and put better empasis on battles and character development.
So, find another reviewer, this is by far the outlier score wise and seems like the guy was just playing to review rather than reviewing a game he fully played.
I going to buy and play it just because I'm a mana fan but it will have a rough going net ease is already closing this studio so it doomed just from that but also from the demo I couldn't shake the mobile game vibes I got also I think it's kinda of a cash grab considering they announced closing the studio the day it released you can not trust the Chinese 😅
In the comments there are many people saying that he is the wrong guy to review that game? But why? (serious question, maybe i dont get why hes the wrong guy) You dont have to be an absolute fan of a game series to do a review of a new game. Sure it helps to understand the fan-audience of the mana series and what they want in a new game of that series, but its not mandatory i would think. I will test the game when its on sale. The demo was okay, but i have other games to finish first.
I think it helps to come in with a good attitude. Maybe it's just his eccentric personally.. But, the guy sounded tired and uninterested from the get-go. It's fine to dislike a game, but if you hire someone to review a game for a series/genre they don't have much experience in or interest in then the review itself won't be taken seriously. Because lets be honest, the only people who are looking at a game to buy it are people interested in the genre or series. Doesn't make much sense to release a public review video for a game about football if the person giving the review has never played them or doesn't enjoy playing them (Doesn't apply here, just an example.). Besides when majority of the comments are saying the exact same thing about GameSpot, then there isn't much to defend.
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This dude reviewed this like his ex made it.
The reviewer: they never question their fate.
5 hours into the game: Both main characters question everything.
Ngl invisible walls are annoying but in the gameplay you can tell by the map you can't go any further.
Yes, but the treasure chest shown seems to be hidden behind the invisible wall.
Yeah the mini map shows all explorable areas, have had zero issue with this.
So much of the video is him trying to clip through walls lol. He thinks it's an open world game.
this guy really wanted to play wukong at launch
rather than review this lol
Yup can see that
He keeps saying he's a fan of Trials of Mana, but it doesn't come across that way to me nor did I hear any compare/contrasting elements of the two discussed. I played the fan-translated version back in 2000, grew up with snes era rpgs. I take this game as what it is, a children's action-rpg that does exactly what it needs to be. It's like the comfort food of rpgs with a low budget. He just doesn't sound like the target audience for the game. He's entitled to his opinion, but a 5 is quite harsh.
Square is testing the water with these smaller IP, as stated by them, and I hope they have success so I can see more of this. Maybe one day we'll get a more adult, high budget Mana mainline.
I mean he's not. He clearly doesn't care for the genre at all
Everybody ask how vision of mana reviewed. No one asked how is the reviewer.
i have being playing the mana games since the days of snes this game is really really good they have thought of every the review of this game is so so wrong
The mini-map literally shows a single path and yet he keeps trying to go off sideways....
That part 😂
I've played 10 hours so far and haven't had an issue getting any chests or grizzly syrup etc.
@@Highwind452same here. The reviewer is a botard.
don't know about this review. Not trying to argue but I'm about 10 hrs deep and I'm loving it. The cast are interesting, some more than others. The combat is awesome and super fun. The spells and abilities are different but fun to mess with. I love the boss fights so far. The side quests are kinda generic, yes, but the combat makes up for it. Musics is also phenomenal . Honestly, I'd give the game at least a 6 or maybe a 7 out of 10. I'm hoping it only goes up from now. I'm not sure why the reviewer was so negative. He makes it sound like manas worse than alot of flops from this past year
Thanks for this comment. He was really turning me off buying it but it feels like he just doesn't like it for some person issues in life lol
IGN is the complete opposite of this review lol
This isn’t ign
Can't believe different people have different opinions that's insane
They gave it a 7, didn't they?
@@KillerGoat86 8
@@Greatsharkbite Does that mean the cycle's been broken? 😯
His biggest gripe? “Too much mana”
Bro is playing the game as if he is bug-testing it.
That was my thought to. A lot of the things I saw him doing were things I only do when I'm messing around and normally seeing what happens if I get stuck or if it's possible to find a glitch
Cope
Who hurt you?
FR my guy is working through something
Visions of Mana is all about simplicity. I like the extremely simple sidequests and exploration. Sure, I would love a Mana series take on Elden Ring or TotK, but this is the best game I’ve played all year!
This guy didn’t understand the assignment lol. Mana series characters so the serious depth? A complex story and motivation? Yeah…they intentionally designed it not to be that and it is better for it. I do not want to invest in games that require I pay attention to every line to catch reference and clues woven together, or have some payoff because I really understood them earlier than some issue or conflict became obvious. This has never been the franchise to scratch that itch, nor should it be.
Cope
I started the game today and i'm eight hours in (didn't leave "the first port" yet). I think it's cute, refreshing and not too complicated (but there are 4 levels of difficulty). Many many side quests (that, for the most of them, you don't HAVE to do - but if you do, you'll get a lot of rewards) and a clear story with a few twists here and there. It's exactly what i expected : an RPG, with a lot of cute animals, and with the possibility to grind A LOT (hidden coins, coffers EVERYWHERE). Even from the beginning, you have access to regions that you know you will come back to (with specific places where the ennemies are level 51… and you are level 3, 4 or 5). There are a ton of things you know you will be coming back to (magical rocks, closed temples, etc. which you run in front of from the very start, and can't use yet)… All in all, i'm very satisfied because it's exactly what i thought it would be… ☺
I think a good review would point out the bad and the good points of a game, surely flavored by the personal and subjective opinion of the reviewer, but watching this felt more like watching someone rant about something, instead of giving a good overview of the different aspects - like, I don't even feel informed now. Looking at all the other reviews out there, I feel like the person reviewing really didn't wanted to play this game at all. This felt a lot like someone who does not like fast food, giving McDonalds a 2 star rating, listing as reasons all the things that make McDonalds a fast food chain. Like, surprise - it was not your cup of tea, that's fine, but a good review is not equal to just stating a personal opinion.
This guy literally describes every Mana game and says it isn't living up to them, huh? Utterly clueless.
Dude seriously dissed the battle system and that's definitely a high point in this game. Yeah, he just didn't like it.
This dude played a different game. 10 hours in and I’ve yet to even find an invisible wall. Not to say they aren’t there but rather…unnoticeable
In order to find invisible walls (and there are some) you would have to ignore the mini-map which clearly shows the boundaries of explorable areas. Not a big deal honestly, explorable areas are huge imo.
He mad cause MANA characters and a story isn't deep and that the combat system isn't complex? Ummm... It's a mana game. Looks fine to me and the invisible walls are clearly seen on the mini map. I think you've blown this out of proportion.
so it's supposed to be bad?
@@lucy-pero everything doesn't need to be the most complex thing ever and be as deep as the grand canyon. Simple things can be enjoyable, and many things are simple and always have been. To talk to the contrary is missing the boat. These have never been complex or deep so why expect it to be now
@@goatsplitter mmm.. good point.
I agree with a lot of the others in these comments, I've been playing my shaft off with this game and I find it to be one of the best action rpg's in a while. The story is pretty interesting, dialogues definitely cheesy at times, but the collectibles are fun, the combat is SICK, Movement is sick, fast run, mounts, visuals are beautiful, and the music is awesome as well. What more could you want?
They should never let you....
have an opinion again....
The Demo definitely has a few issues but I think there is more than enough good here to be enjoyable.
A 5 is actually insane
I’m yet to play it, will be picking it up tomorrow as I’m in NZ. But a point that most reviewers have stated is that the early game combat can come across as slow but once it opens up it’s one of the greatest arpg combat systems around. Due to that I don’t think the demo shows that part off well but it wouldn’t make sense to throw you into the middle with an abundance of systems to learn instantly.
I played the demo as well, and it felt just hollow. The 5 fits what I experienced in the demo. That the whole game is like that is kinda heart breaking.
@@kaynewoolley9104 People said that about the demo as well. I'm fairly certain that it's people that didn't try to use other characters and the customization options in the demo; some of the options available definitely were fast-paced. Personally I played the demo with kareena as a dancer most of the time and it was everything but slow. Thing is, the MC, which most people will I guess use intuitively, is a tank...
Regarding the early game itself (in the full game) it doesn't strike me as particularly slow even with Val; in fact even less so than Val in the demo strangely enough.
This dude clearly was just going through this just to review it
If you elaborate more or if you have a counter point it would be really helpful. Like why is he wrong on the points he mentioned
@@vic137 I never said he was wrong, what? He sounded very negative his tone doesn’t sound he enjoyed or wanted to review the game. I’m not elaborating anything because I didn’t say he was wrong.
@@1kbmahandid you watch the video? He points out all the things why he didn't enjoy it.
@@1kbmahanI too sound negative on games with problems or which didn’t engage me enough 🤷♂️
@@1kbmahanyeah he was very negative because he didnt like the game. And of course his tone wasn't positive
As a starting point I'd like to say I respect the score it gets, I will still buy and play the game and I expect I will enjoy it aswell.
What I don't like about the review is the negative tone the entire review has attached to it feels like a reviewer got handed a game he really didnt wanna play at all and did it just to review it doesnt seem like a good combination. Because even if the game has some bad things I'm sure it has I did play the demo after all there are some upsides aswell but it felt like the reviewer focused mainly on the bad.
And something I always find hillarious in these reviews that doesnt get a good score is they often focus alot of energy on gameplay and bugs while for games that get good or even great reviews they close their eyes and barely mention them even though some games was absolutly crawling with them at launch. There are games that has gotten 10s with tons of bugs with no mention of them in the reviews.
He's definitely not a fan of the series like he claims to be at the beginning of the review.
This is the only reviewer that gave it such a low score tbh even IGN gave it an 8 and they are usually giving JRPGS pretty mid scores in general.
I don’t feel like the person who reviewed this actually plays JRPGS in general let alone someone familiar with the mana series.
@@radagonsoreseal3457 totally agree with this.
Funny. Watching this salty review actually made me want to buy the game to support it.
This is a game that I want to play regardless what the reviewer said.
The art style is so colourful and gorgeous. I'd rather play this than most Western games.
I feel like the reviewer and Western gaming industry is jaded and doesn't understand gaming anymore.
Even Black myth wukong & stellar blade, I would buy less than the interest I have for this game.
Japan has this ability to create fantastical worlds that stimulate our imagination with positivity like no other country.
This is what I love about Japanese games. Reminds me of the vibe of Spyro or Zelda.
Game is beautiful. Controls are good. Its fun. Colorful. Memorable characters. Amazing classes. A tremendous achievement
The problem with poeple and review is that poeple who came here are the one who love the game not the way around and they get angry if there game get low score and start hating on the reviewer . to me this game look identical to trail of mana that was released couple of years ago so if you like that you will like this to
as for me i hated the game everything about it was bad and i hate that square enix are releasing mutiple low quality rpg game . the movement look stiff and the combat look so bad the exploration look so bad also due to the maps being liener . the story is so uninteresting and the cinematic quality is also bad .
but even than i dont go to some one who enjoy the game and insult him of his taste . because taste is subjective
Wow, they really got the wrong guy for this. 😅
dindt watch the review huh ?
You're right. Reviewers should be fans of the series that will ignore any downsides and give a positive review no matter what.
@@ceirwanYou can still be a fan of a series and be very critical. Just personally hearing this guy I don’t think he is a fan of JRPGS in general let alone the mana series.
None of their games are a 10/10 but I don’t think it’s near as bad as the reviewer is claiming 🤷
Same guy who gave a low score to Granblue Fantasy. Hard to take them seriously when they're so far off from the general consensus. As an avid JRPG fan, I can say I am absolutely loving the game so far, and the post-game looks amazing considering all the customization options!
@@radagonsoreseal3457 Its just one of those things. If you like the series / genre, you're probably buying it anyway.
3:23 loved that song in Trials of Mana ❤
something tells me this guy is disappointed a lot in life
If you saw what he looks like you’d know why.🤣
I'd be disappointed in life too if I was the ex-prime minister of Pakistan.
@@TheMaestro116 This is likley too niche of a joke for the denizens haunting IGN's part of the internet, but take this thumbs up.
@@Amanojaku8no, some of us are adults
@@Amanojaku8Gamespot*
Secrets of Mana is one of my favourite games ever, but this doesn't seem to have that same magic
That's your nostalgia talking. SD3 and SoM are possibly my favorite ones, period, and it is a lot like it; if you know why you like the mana serie (its atmosphere, the contrast between the cute design and harsh themes, Kikuta, etc) and not just because it is a "childhood game". Visions actually surprised me in that regard, it feels more like a mana game than I thought it'd be; which also explains why it's not the same market and public as, say, FF7R.
Compared to the mess that was SD4, this is a masterpiece (then again, a LOT of things are masterpieces compared to SD4....)
Although strictly speaking, I'd say that Vision's atmosphere is somewhat closer to SD3 than to SoM. But it fits with both.
Nah dude, this reviewer is dumb. If you want a new mana game, you should totally give this one a shot. It definitely has the same magic.
I feel the same way after trying the demo. It's OK, but secret of mana was amazing. I'll definitely buy it as some point, but probably wait for a sale.
The absolute state of gaming journalism.
Invisible walls in a free roam area are soooo immersion shattering. Going through the same with Atlas Fallen currently. It's an automatic point taken off a game for me.
The same goes with Black Myth: Wukong although not open world some sections are very open and constantly thinking you can go somewhere just to hit an invisible barrier breaks immersion immediately.
The issue is Japanese games are like this. And you just have to accept it. When I turned on DQ 11, i was like holy linear path Batman! But if I let that deter me, I would have missed out on one of the best games I’ve ever played. At least they have jump buttons!
@@eradicatedpulse6896 in wukong it think its even worse, because the world looks so good, that you think every few minutes, "oh cool i could go there" just to realize, nope, its again an invisible wall. The game is great in other aspects but this is its big downside!
@@eradicatedpulse6896well yeah it’s a linear game and a boss rush game at that.
Most Japanese games are like this with very few exceptions.
I really don’t find invisible walls in these games immersion shattering because they aren’t open world so I kinda expect it.
I'm used to invisible walls or at least obvious roadblocks like shrubs blocking the path. As long as I have a map telling me where I can and can't go, I'm set. Though BM: Wukong doesn't have a map so I saw not how immersion shattering that was, but how easy it was to get lost.
You all are just malding because Square gave the publicity contract to IGN and you could only get the Blizzard one. Thought we wouldnt notice. Awful review btw.
Ahhh that explains it. I could tell something felt off. Ty! 😁
He did not play the game...he says that no one in the world cares about people sacraficing them selfs and the story never deviates. The first 5 seconds is about people running away from sacraficing themselfs
My first impression of story was, wait , isn't that the plot of I Am Setsuna?
lol a 5 and ign gave it a 8. Im still getting this game since I loved the demo. The only game reviewers I trust are noisy pixels
they sold out with the outlaws shtill
Ok I’ll pass thank you 😊 I don’t like hard games
You can change the difficulty to Easy or even Beginner at any point in the game.
He should have stated that in the review.
It’s super easy not to mention there’s an easy mode and even one easier than that
Wasn’t this the same people that gave Star Wars outlaws a rave review? Did Ubisoft r pay them more than square?
"WaSN't tHis ThE sAMe pEop-" shut up. How do you guys still not get that big outlets like Gamespot and IGN have different reviewers who review different games and have drastically different opinions? Instead of relying on every review to be synonymous, why don't you do your homework and check who actually wrote the thing.
Also, if you want to criticize a review, then you should actually play the game being reviewed. If you haven't then your opinion is worthless.
@@acidrain92thanks for the commentary
Sincerely,
Nuts on chinz
@@DjLithe Exactly the kind of response I expect from somebody who likes bad JRPG writing lol
they will definitely not give it lower than 7. they are paid.
Stat Wars Outlaws got a 6, when does that became a rave review 🤨
Sounds like this guy just doesn't know how to play the game. You have to re-class your character, dude.
Looks like he did go from swordsman to lancer in the video…
I have to agree the limited movement in settlements is stupendously absurd, story falls flat midway and the look of Val, Morley and especially Julei is absolutely ridiculous in either which outfit
Some valid points are made in this video. It is too easy to just look at the grade and say it is unfair compared to other reviews that rate the game much higher. I honestly don't think a lot of the issues are break points for me anyway and a lot of things can be fixed through patches. Things like bugs are usually fixed in a day one patch that probably wasn't available yet for review.
I'm looking forward to mess around with the classes and weapons. Most reviewers really enjoy this part of the game. I really hope they fix double jump in towns, that is a very weird design choice, makes no sense and seems so easy to allow full movement in towns.
It seems weird to me to critique the double jump/air dash in towns thing. You can sprint and jump, everything is within reach. Towns have quests, shops, grizzly syrup and chests.
Double jump air dash is for open areas and dungeons.
I'm just glad they gave us a mount straight up in the first big area.
@@Highwind452 It is a minor annoyance, nothing game breaking. You do have some items on roofs which become very frustrating to collect in towns because suddenly you need precise timing to get on a roof. It just feels so unnecessary, why disable it in towns? One of my biggest annoyances with the FF7 remakes is the excruciating slow walking during a lot a character interactions. Or those cinematic crawls, just do a cutscene if you don't want players to run around... (also about FF7 remake).
That bothered me a lot more than all those things mentioned about this game in the review. The only thing I agree with is the story and (most of) the characters. I only like Val and Morley, Julei is just entertaining. You also get some very weird drops in pace that could easily been avoided with some better streamlining. Like the massive backtracking later in the game and some random character moments way too late in the story.
But no, not being able to double jump in towns did not ruin the game for me. It is not even worth a point reduction for a review if you ask me.
I only need to do the black rabbit boss and aeva zahala (on hard) for my platinum trophy so I'm definitely enjoying the game. I think it is a lot of fun, but nothing really outstanding. I'd say the average grade of a 7.5 on metacritic is about right. I do feel like that it had more potential as minor improvements could have had a big impact on the game. A bit better streamlining a bit better gameplay pacing. I'm now in the end game and the battle system is only now reaching it's full potential after maxing more than one elemental plot and it's kind of sad that a lot of player will probably never actually see how great the battle system is when you get to mix multiple classes and the late game ability seeds.
If you approach this game like a throwback ps1/ps2 era jrpg brought to modern times, it’s easily at least an 8. And btw play on hard since it’s basically old school normal and game’s better with it.
Gamespot gives the worst game reviews out there. They’re always the harshest out of all other gaming outlets from what I’ve noticed.
I dunno I've liked what I've played 🤷🏾♂️
Modern game urinals are out of touch with gamers. I wouldn't take it to heart, they're fading out of relevancy fast. As you can see, they're completely useless.
Dude same. It's a wholesome classic.
The reviewer clearly doesn’t get it
i thought of buying it, but if the game is so bad.... i do not know which other games i could. I just want to conter the weight of my other dark games with a more happy and chill ones like this.
The man who reviewed it knows his games. I myself, played the demo for 5 minutes, yelled YEP!, and uninstalled it and preordered immediately. I expect to enjoy it
A... I was hopping for a better one after the amazing work of secret of mana..
@@ARAFELIthis game is wack. Played the demo on Steam. Too kiddie for me.
@@ralfiejr34feed your inner child
This is the way all mana games are. The original snes games had an enemy glitch that made it require finesse related to attack timing and how the attack would land and you had to understand the game engine and work around it. Still was awesome. THEY NEED COUCH CO-OP DONE RIGHT FOR DLC. Yeah. i said it.
This dude would give Simone Biles a 5
Despite some issues like the invisible walls the demo sold me. I appreciate this negative review for a different pov but generally feels like this dude just didn't want to review this specific game lol
Wowwwww this is the first review I've seen that's bashed the game....and I've seen a good handful of them.
Can't wait to get this game, I loved the demo.
Sure, dude sounds like he didn't like the game, but maybe that's because he didn't like it? Just because the game wasn't his cup of tea doesn't mean YOU won't like the game. There's an 11 minute video where he explains his perspective in great detail so you can take his criticisms and decide if those things are issues for you or not. That's the whole point of a review; to give you a subjective opinion to help you make a more informed decision on spending your money/time/effort on something.
Everyone complains about reviewers being "paid shills" but really, ya'll just want to be the ones paying so the reviewer agrees with you😂.
This is barely a review, its more of a bitter rant about the game, the tone is so pretentious and blunt even terrible games can produce good reviews instead of sounding like the reviewer is cursing your entire bloodline.
Yeah but this isn’t some random dude with a you tube channel giving his opinion on a game. This a channel that professionally reviews games. They need to review it objectively and try to leave personal biases out of it, because it needs to be useful to everyone not just him and people like him. If this was his own channel, then fine. People who subscribe to him know what to expect and if you don’t like what he likes, then you just won’t watch him. But a professional review channel needs to not make the review about the reviewer.
When the former Prime Minister of Pakistan reviews this game himself, YOU BUY IT.
Are you trying to fight IGN for worst gaming skills in a "gaming journalist"?
This guy's braindead."I accidentally ran from fights a few times and came back the mobs had full hp." like are you serious? You have to seriously not be paying attention cause it takes a good 3 seconds for you to run from a fight while running into an invisible wall.Also game too hard=bad for this guy.What a real gamer. This is why beginner mode exists.I give this review a -1/10.
the story is a mana tale through and through with some modern twists. odd that some of the surprising story elements didn’t resonate with this player. i feel like the game was created for fans of the series. lots of call backs to characters and npc’s from older games makes it a joy to experience. it’s not for everyone, sure, but it’s far from a bad game. “hundreds of RPGs better than this” was a fascinating way to end the script. unfortunate review.
Mine arrives tomorrow 🎉
I'm new to jrpgs. Should I buy this or tales of arise?
arise is great
This
Both. Arise was super charming
Dragon Quest XI
Arise is great I love trails and secret of mana and I'm hearing good things about it but I'd say get Arise since you can probably find it super cheap and hopefully after you're done with that there's a discount on this game
The game is beautiful, there are hints about where the missions are, like ninja Gaiden 2 on the Nintendo Switch, the problem is that the open world, the desire to explore everything and secondary missions or many together is good, but at first they can be left behind by We don't know which one to do first and then this mission may disappear, but it's cool, it's beautiful, I'll play it. I prefer the legend of mana style if the characters were drawn by hand, like the scenery with a larger size to show the details and with fluidity like a cartoon street of rage 4 would be better, a version with a wu Kong from oriental legends 2 igs pgm2 or Goku from saiyuki ps 1 with kusarigama as a ninja weapon Gaiden 2 from nintendo switch or urumi tungar from indivisible half wizard monk pirate samurai enchanter morpher, Sierra with spear or and haladie a lupine valkiria cleric, an archer Gilbert or another character a grasshopper perhaps , Shiloh with sword gladiator swordsman, Nicollo or a birdman with daggers or fists, or daena with daggers or fists, escad and his sword, the birdman or Nicollo with axe, Serafina with sledgehammer fists or knives, elazul same style red mage musketeer fencer, larc the hellhound now with two swords and shields the magical warrior half knight and samurai and pearl maga with a staff I think it would look great, in the same style as the legend of mana on the ps1 with the improvements made, in a traditional RPG or tactics, in the styles valkirye profile and indivisible, blooddstained The cursed of The moon 2, action adventure like herc's adventure Beyond oasis avatar The burning earth online multiplayer and beat em up, or a remake with additions of two or three more playable characters, perhaps more phases and changes just in the characters' graphics, I think it would be a cooler remake version and boomerang as a weapon in the game's inventory too, but it's very beautiful, yes, I play Thiago da Silva Lisboa, new animes, ovas and mangas from the mana series are welcome also.
O jogo tá lindo, tem dica sinal da onde são estão as missões como o ninja Gaiden 2 do nintendo switch o problema é que mundo aberto da vontade de explorar tudo e missões secundárias ou muitas juntas é bom mas de começo podem serem deixadas para trás por não sabermos qual fazer primeiro e depois essa missão pode desaparecer, mas tá legal tá lindasso, jogasso.
Eu prefiro o estilo legend of mana se os personagens fossem desenhados a mão como o cenário com tamanho maior para mostra os detalhes e com fluidez como de desenho animado street of rage 4 ficaria melhor, uma versão com um wu Kong de oriental legends 2 igs pgm2 ou Goku de saiyuki ps 1 com kusarigama como arma de ninja Gaiden 2 de nintendo switch ou urumi tungar de indivisible meio bruxo monge pirata samurai encantador morfador, Sierra com lança ou e haladie uma lupina valkiria cleriga, um arqueiro Gilbert ou outro personagem um gafanhoto talvez, Shiloh com espada espadachim gladiador, Nicollo ou um homem pássaro com adagas ou punhos, ou daena com adagas ou punhos, escad e seu espadão, o homem pássaro ou Nicollo com machado, Serafina com marreta punhos ou facas, elazul mesmo estilo red mage mosqueteiro esgrimeiro, larc o cão do inferno agora com duas espadas e escudos o guerreiro mágico meio cavaleiro e samurai e pearl maga com um cajado acho que ficaria show, no mesmo estilo do legend of mana do ps1 com as melhorias digitadas, em RPG tradicional ou e tactics, nos estilos valkirye profile e indivisible, blooddstained The cursed of The moon 2, ação aventura como herc's adventure Beyond oasis avatar The burning earth multijogadores online e beat em up, ou um remake com adições de mais uns dois ou três personagens jogáveis talvez mais fases e mudança só nos gráficos dos personagens acho que já seria uma versão remake mais legal e boomerang como arma no inventário do jogo também, mas está muito lindo sim jogasso Thiago da Silva Lisboa, novos animes, ovas e mangas da série mana são bem vindos também.
"dungeon design becomes bereft of truly uninteresting ideas"
so... it's full of interesting ideas?
This is one of those reviews where the reviewer so clearly didn't play the game that it harms the integrity of the site who's name he writes under.
game journalist is speaking
Such a shame… the mama series deserves a better game..
Bro what is this guy going on about? The mini map is clearly showing you can't get past those invisible walls.
Its 8/10 game. Every ff fans will love it too
Kid hates anything mana. Not saying VoM is perfect but it’s better than this guys whiny attitude
His expectation was way to high for sure, maybe play it again in a decade
Cheers for the review. This is so disappointing to see. Have to say, it was not great to hear it was to be yet another single player game. Secret of Mana and Mana 2 were multi player that existed approximately 30 years ago. They clearly dropped that to reduce development as it was too challenging. They should have made the effort bring that back and put better empasis on battles and character development.
I'm not saying you need to enjoy the game but saying most of it is bad it's just flat-out wrong.
looks cute
reminds me of Quest 64
Visions of MIDMA fans cope that the studio shut down 😂
Have you played it?
As a huge fan of seiken densetsu 1-3, I'm dissappointed, however not surprised after dawn on ps2
Now tell us what you don't like about the game
Bro IMRAN KHAN is inevitable 😂
@DannyMotta was right this is way worse of rating than IGN
So, find another reviewer, this is by far the outlier score wise and seems like the guy was just playing to review rather than reviewing a game he fully played.
game was epic (I ve played all the mana games) this one is the best by far
I going to buy and play it just because I'm a mana fan but it will have a rough going net ease is already closing this studio so it doomed just from that but also from the demo I couldn't shake the mobile game vibes I got also I think it's kinda of a cash grab considering they announced closing the studio the day it released you can not trust the Chinese 😅
the real question is, how diverse is it
Lol
It’s got furries so…😅
Yeah but what color is their fur and who do they like to bring to bed?
A dogturd review from Gamesnot.
This review reminds me of that song 'Bad day' by Daniel Powter! 💀 He really did had bad one!
I played the demo and I can assure you this game has problems. Don't blindly dislike his review he is clearly mentioning what problems he faced
A buy for me when its dirt cheap.
*Yea Nothin Beats Trails Of Mana 3 For Super Nintendo Or Computer Emulator 😉*
Whoever reviewed this game should be fired. I've been playing a lot and it's pretty good. Like a 7.5. Thats a pretty bad review.
I was not expecting this review to be so low because the other channels Thought it was pretty great
non-stop bashing of the game how terrible and disappointed they are with it, a few good things thrown in, that is a 3/10 to me not a 5/10
So gamespot doesn't like this game.... Means it's amazing and I'm buying it.
Hey GameSpot it's 2024, didn't you know you're not allowed to critique a game when you're critiquing it?
In the comments there are many people saying that he is the wrong guy to review that game? But why? (serious question, maybe i dont get why hes the wrong guy)
You dont have to be an absolute fan of a game series to do a review of a new game. Sure it helps to understand the fan-audience of the mana series and what they want in a new game of that series, but its not mandatory i would think. I will test the game when its on sale. The demo was okay, but i have other games to finish first.
I think it helps to come in with a good attitude. Maybe it's just his eccentric personally.. But, the guy sounded tired and uninterested from the get-go. It's fine to dislike a game, but if you hire someone to review a game for a series/genre they don't have much experience in or interest in then the review itself won't be taken seriously. Because lets be honest, the only people who are looking at a game to buy it are people interested in the genre or series. Doesn't make much sense to release a public review video for a game about football if the person giving the review has never played them or doesn't enjoy playing them (Doesn't apply here, just an example.). Besides when majority of the comments are saying the exact same thing about GameSpot, then there isn't much to defend.
He’s the wrong guy cause he didn’t give a review the crybabies wanted
Double jump is too much should allow to climbing 🧗♂️
Game is sooo good. IGN 5 score means its a 9/10
Except it wasn’t ign who gave it a 5…?
sir this is a wendys
9/10
Im still early in the game.
Subjective opinion doesn't disprove other subjective opinion 💃🕺
Well, that was harsh....
How is it that you seem to be the only person that has the opposite take of anybody else's review? What a weirdly bad review.
This guy ain't him.
I literally watched like 10 other reviews and this the first one that puts it down like this, everyone else was like yea good game!
That's because they're grown men that like kiddie stuff. This game is wack.
Nothing wrong with appealing to a younger demographic, works for Dragon Quest @@ralfiejr34
@@ralfiejr34and this is wrong how?