Could The Justice League ACTUALLY Stop Thanos? | DCEU vs MCU
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Hey guys Welcome back to the channel. And last week the DCEU ended. But before they get replaced by a younger and newer cast. Let’s talk about the power levels of these characters and what better way to do it than by comparing them to the big boss of the mcu himself, Thanos the mad titan himself. How would the Justice league preform? Would they win ? Or would thanos have to humble another team of meta humans?be sure to watch and find out! If you enjoy videos like this be sure to like share and subscribe and look forward to weekly videos!
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As the New Years comes to and end naturally we reflect. And I’m glad and happy to report that the year 2023 has been one of the best years of my life. 2022 was one of the worst years of my life and it was mostly because of me I let bad experiences from the end of 2021 effect me for the worst. I spent a majority of my senior year, bitter, angry and disappointed. And because of that i wasted what should have been one of the best years of my teenage life. Coming in 2023 I finally made peace with myself and I was determined to do better and be better. Ngl kratos From God of war Ragnork was a major inspiration as dumb as that sounds. I made peace with God I started to take my faith seriously and after school ended in may I made the effort and choice to take my 300 subs and simply try again. Here I’m at 7 months later so grateful that I made that first leap. I tell you all this because I don’t know how your year was, But if it was bad or disappointing I wanna tell you, you are not your mistakes. You are who you choose to be. So choose to be better. Good luck to all you guys in 2024
Good work man, proud of you 🫡
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Hey can you do the janitor from Willy’s wonderland vs spring trap from the games and novels
Congrats. Yeah, theres alot to be angry about, and a lot of negative things that can linger in your mind. I glad to hear that you not only chose to not let the anger and bitterness continue to get to you and were also willing to let it go. its a lot harder than it sounds, especially nowadays. I wish you well with your journey in faith.
May 2024 be a good year for you. And if its not, may you learn from it and strengthen your walk.
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I think that when they said that Thanos is the strongest in the universe they were referring to mortal beings and non cosmic gods.
eternity is not part of the universe. he is the universe so he is the living embodiment of a universe he isnt in it
If you read the comic thanos imprisons eternity and takes his place so im pretty sure hes the strongest in the universe point blank period
@@Unknownt-uu7td not at that point after only acquiring 2 stones. And the comics and movies are vastly different.
He says Superman was weaker than Wonder Woman in BvS, but there is a reason for that. He was still infected with trace amounts of Kryponite that he breathed in for most of that fight. And even then I still think Superman had a slightly better performance. Superman is actually a very intelligent character and combatant, he likely know that neither Batman nor Wonder Woman could actually take Doomsday’s attacks and come out unscathed, only he could tank the attacks and captivated most of Doomsday’s attention, allowing the other two to put some work in bringing him down.
The second he said Cyborg > Superman we all knew it was hella cap
Wonder Woman literally did the most damage and avoided the most damage against Doomsday before Superman pointlessly charged in with that kryptonite spear. If the team literally just coordinated and Wonder Woman or Superman got a few hits in with her sword, Superman wouldn't have needed to pointlessly sacrifice himself. If Superman had just been a punching bag for Doomsday and gotten Wonder Woman to get the spear and stab Doomsday instead, that situation also could have been avoided.
@@VunderGuy Just shows the lack of proper teamwork and BIQ of the JL, another + for Thanos
@@ChcksterThanos is literally killed off in most of his MCU appearances he needs all the “+”s he can get
Cap 🧢
Just by the way, Superman's heat vision could rip through the Kryptonian ships made out of metal that could travel through blackholes unscathed.
His freeze breath as well literally flash froze Steppenwolf's Electro Axe made from Apokaliptian metal which could clash evenly with Aquaman's Trident and Wonder Woman's god killer divine weapons, as well as obviously Cyborg's body which is made out of a motherbox.
Basically, Superman's breath alone could shatter Thanos' Uru armour and weapon as well as the gauntlet itself, or just his arm wearing the gauntlet.
His heat vision could just cut right through Thanos like butter, basically what Vision-Ultron did to him in the What If? canon.
Also, if the empath girl in the Guardians could temporarily paralyze him with the aid of Dr. Strange and others, then certainly the Lasso would easily compel him.
Flash can ensure a win by just time traveling and so on.
They have too many win cons against Thanos.
kryptonian ships never survived blackholes, it's what legit destroyed them in MOS when the singularity happened. bro your making stupid statements mjilnir by itself has more feats than all the metal you mentioned and thanos took headshot hits from it. even the writers stated dr strange's portal couldn't penetrates his skin like they did with cull. comparing the lasso to the "empath girl in the Guardians" whom was able to put ego the celestial to sleep she even acknowledge that thanos mind was more powerful than his, a literal celestial. and flash's time travel just creates another timeline as shown in the movie which micheal keaton batman explained.
@@Spmnls Dude, they traversed black holes. No, it isn't what destroyed them in MOS. Superman destroyed them. The one that was sent into the singularity wasn't destroyed, it was teleported into the Phantom Zone. Stop the cope. Thanos struggled with Captain America, who struggled with a HYDRA grunt with a gun. Meanwhile the 100k+ planet busting Steppenwolf swinging his axe into Superman didn't do shit, not to mention Superman kept up with The Flash moving just below lightspeed.
Superman alone is enough. He one shots.
@@TheStraightestWhitest yknow that was decades of difference with the grunts one so no
@@firdanharbima6997 No I'm talking about the grunt in The Avengers. He nearly let Tony Stark die because of it.
And before you say Cap in Endgame was stronger: He literally lost to his The Avengers self.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Cap lift Mjonir and gained the powers of Thor, as Odin said in “Thor 1”. That is why he was able to give Thanos a hard time.
Been here for ages and its crazy how much you grew this last year. Its gonna be FAR further next year! Good work Goji!
Great job Goji. As always a great video
The JL was literally formed to face threats like Thanos, Superman alone is enough, but having someone like The Flash as well? Yeah its over.
Superman blitzes his purple ass. End of discussion.
Not even light speed in travel
@@manofiron5934neither is thanos
@@brunonascimentocoelho2427he has mftl reaction speed
@@manofiron5934actually when he fought flash he was moving at the 3/4 of the speed of light
@@Darkseidsolosfictionflash speed at the moment wasn’t confirmed
The moment when Superman notices Flash & moves fast enough that Flash actively has evade him is my favorite part of the movie.
That point in the end with thanos confuses me a bit. What should count as physical exertion in this case? He doesn't exactly look relaxed when blasting that beam at iron man. That and there was also that part where be shatters the mirror dimension portal strange made and turns it into a black hole.
Thanos seems to not kill anyone who is not a immediate threat during Infinity War. Like, he had Spider-man in his hands and just threw him at Strange or when he blasted Star-Lord, Drax and Nebula with the power stone and the worst that happens is they getting knocked out.
But when Heimdall teleports Hulk to Earth or Iron Man manages to hurt him a little bit, he immediately kills H and start to beat the Sh*t out of Tony and was about to kill him.
A better argument Goji could have used is that Thanos wanted to let the Snap decide who dies and who lives, killing only those who could make his plain fail, since that would be the most “unbiased” way to bring balance to the universe, so he was holding back during the movie.
Yeah mcu is just ..trash fr when u actually think bout the comics and ik they wanted to do they own thing but thanos beat avengers xmen like it's just crazy he did this while having all gems and didn't use them at first
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Clearly wasn't outputing all his energy trying not to kill anyone still trying to get the time stone (torture of friends is a tatic he knows well) but as soon as tony actually drew blood he said nah I'm erasing him. And an actual black hole would have destroyed titan and prob Thanos too, I thinks it's a portal to space as he uses the space stone and that's why it's black and pulling in everything around it
The moment wonder women gets the lasso around him it’s done
The lasso is information based to get someone to speak a truth, it doesn’t work in the sense it traps them completely
no
@@Flyboy1953it being inescapable by anyone is a no limits fallacy, plus Wonder Woman is not nearly as strong as any of the heavy hitters in endgame to she shouldn’t be even able to get the lasso around him and finally if Wonder Woman throws that lasso at thanos, that shits getting snapped in half
@@Flyboy1953this is the movies dumbass, why you bringing up book shit? Also Being a rip off means jack shit in terms of a fight. The DCU justice league does not have the scaling/feats to compete with MCU characters, anyone who says otherwise is bias towards DC. DC “starting” it all doesn’t mean anything in power scaling.
@@Flyboy1953 Marvel wouldn't exist without DC ??? Where did you get this theory from ??? LOL.
Yes, yes they would've.
The Justice League is literal leagues above the Avengers.
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No they aren’t 😂
@@MrBond-tv1eu kinda are kinda not thor phase 3+ solos
@@spincycle6724 thor gets absolutely fried by every JL member 😂
@@BIGROMEx2 no he ain't he might not be as fast but with stormbreaker,Mjonir and his awakended form no way
@@spincycle6724 superman, shazam, and mmh FODDERIZE thor.
Congrats on the awesome year and videos with a happy new year! Also, have you ever thought to scale the Nightfeeder from Genndy's Primal?
Imagine if Darkseid was revealed to be the villain for infinity war & thanos for justice league. Then we see the prequel of them both also fighting trigon !
Well Avengers would lose and thanos would get wrecked
i love how most of these Justice League ones come down to "but can he beat Superman tho"
Great Video it was very entertaining.
You're the first guy who properly scales DCEU antagonists. Kudos.
Yeah but nerfs the MCU love his content but this is just wrong
Nope
Dceu are around city to country
Not bro gatekeeping scales 😭
Looking forward to DCEU Supe v Omni-man
I definitely think current Thor could be argued to be a planet buster actually you could make that argument for his hammer as I think it would upscale rockets weapons that blow up moons he literally is shocked and excited and even asking to go there so I think it could be fair to assume they upscale and also a lot of people seem to forget that iron man did not tank a full on moon only it’s asteroids which isn’t a bad feat but is not what people say it is
Superman during the Doomsday fight literally inhaled two large clouds of kryptonite dust, 5 minutes before the fight started.
This was really well done, one thing though: the animated series What If depicts a version of Thor whose sole difference is being raised as an only child and thus having little ambitions due to not having to compete for the throne. This Thor fights on par with Captain Marvel who doesn't seek to be holding back, their fight interrupted only by Thor's mom: ruclips.net/video/YEMAgUh7k80/видео.htmlsi=bqMr_ggt73f_srAL
So I think you could buy star-level Thor. And I don't really think Party Thor should be any stronger than normal Thor, as he would've had no reason to work harder to gain a higher level of strength.
There is also a scene that implies Thor accidentally destroyed a planet/star during a party, like the god equivalent of wrecking a car.
I can imagine you may have overlooked the cartoon due to it being alternate universes, but as I said, i think main universe Thor should get this scaling due to having more reason to train to be stronger.
What If characters appear a lot stronger though. Example: Vision/Ultron.
Captain Marvel literally say she's holding back bruh what you smokjng😂😂😂
@bryanmarcia4104 There is still the scene where Jane says he destroyed a planet and he doesn't deny it
@@TheStraightestWhitestUltron was blatantly amped though
The Party Prince Thor is actually likely more powerful than base MCU Thor. I mean the Watcher literally choose him to defeat Infinity Ultron. He had to be one of the strongest versions of Thor in the multiverse
I haven’t really seen scaling for the live action characters yet. I’m hyped
Goji, thanks for the video! While I think that the fight is pretty good, it would be closer, until we get to Superman. Thanos tanked destroying The Infinity Stones, without dying. Even if you argue that he only scales to 1/10,000 of that, the effect was still Nebula/Multi-Galactic level, since Avengers: Infinity War explicates that The Infinity Stones are ingots of the conceptual powers of the universe. The Power Stone increases his power exponentially, since he is either Multi-Continental to Moon Level, and can then become able to affect the entire Universe. Even in 2023, Young Thanos explicated how he could strip The Universe to its, "last atom," and rebuild it, meaning destroying The Stones is far more intensive than expected.
Endgame Thanos is literally stronger and faster than his Infinity War self, ignoring how he'd be innately more ruthless. Now, I believe that The Justice League is putting a better fight than The Avengers, for sure. However, they get carried by Superman, since no one can actually survive a war of attrition against him, let alone fighting to deal damage. Despite that reservation, Superman is probably beating him like a dog, since he DOES have the damage necessary to kill him, let alone that massive speed advantage [14:30].
I wanted to say that you were very articulate. It's a blessing to hear you're doing so well for yourself.
The Flash can also phase through everything.
The goat has dropped another video!
5:24 No, you can literally see her get tagged WHILE FLYING AT FULL SPEED IN SPACE before this in your own clip. One of Thanos' ships tagged her and even avoided her when they were fighting in space. Not to mention Captain Marvel has to navigate and control her flight herself while trying to find Tony. She's DEFINITELY MFTL. Not to mention before she entered earth's atmosphere everyone already saw her. She was being shot at by the ships again. The main ship wouldn't be shooting at her if they couldn't react to her full speed ramming into them from space. Not to mention Thor 1 Thor was already casually blocking the Destroyer's light beam attacks. Quicksilver who was perceiving light based attacks as slower than him was almost tagged by Thor, this is when Thor throws his hammer at Quicksilver and Quicksilver tries to catch it. Yes he was slower than Quicksilver but he was still able to react to him. Also Quicksilver getting shot was because he was tired, we see him taking a breather a couple of times and we know he has an extremely fast metabolism that requires him to constantly eat to replenish his energy.
17:25 No, in GoG 1 it was directly stated that if the power stone was able to make contact with any living organism it would destroy the planet. Thanos and Thor being able to withstand direct contact with the power stone gives them planetary durability. Thanos exerting himself when he destroyed the moon was simply due to him doing multiple tasks at once. He had to destroy it and at the same time teleport it. We know that using all the stones at the same time would be taxing in itself. Not to mention why would Thanos not want to use his full power when he blasted it at Ironman ?
Are you seriously trying to say he didn't want to beat or kill Ironman ? 😂😂😂
17:39 Again nope, he had to do use two stones at once. Why did you think Thanos rarely used all the stones he gathered at once when he fought the Avengers ?
Also if Rocket can casually create a weapon that can destroy moons, do you think Iron-Man can't create something better when he and Hulk can create a time traveling device with Pym Particles ?
The lowball on Avengers is insane 😂
The Power stone is actually Star level, I know nobody watched The Marvels but in it Carol reignited a star so what Thanos did to her should upscale
(she also takes 0 damage from base Thanos headbutt so there's consistency)
captain marvel in the marvels also tanked a point blank explosion which tore a whole between two universes. idk if anyone has scaled that yet. but its defenetly beyond planetary.
@@Spmnls But this is PHASE 3 Scaling. Endgame. The Marvels is MORE PHASE 4.
Bro, wonder woman would decapitate Thanos in 5 seconds. Thanos was struggling with Spiderman and Star lord lmao
Black suit superman stomps, no difficulty end of
Scale that mf to country lvl then talk
Idk but no holding back he would do great
13:10 when you go above light speed time travel is theoretically possible since only gravity can bend space-time and as you get faster your mass increases, and your time will be different than others and if you bend it enough (may be infinity it’s unknown) you could time travel.
It’s actually possible to time travel if you go through a black hole (and survive).
This is a simplification, it’s a very interesting subject I recommend you research it like me, its very fun having daily existential crisis for overthinking it.
These critics and so-called analysts always downplay Batman's capabilities. You'd be surprised he'd be the one to take Thanos down.
So true
Depends on the flash or super man. We all know flash could pull a reverse flash or just take the crystals or gauntlet.
Look, I enjoyed this video, but the thing about power scalers in general is they fail to account for certain things in favor of specific feats. You didn’t once mention Superman’s weakness to magic and how ebony maw could’ve played a role in that. Either way, I think it’s a bit closer to call than your final conclusion. Also I think you should specify which thanos, because according to the writers thanos was stronger in endgame, fighting wise, while infinity war thanos was more introspective and thoughtful in his attack.
Supermans weakness to magic is not like Superman automatically gets fucked up. The way you guys attempt to downplay superman by being like "THE WEAKNESSES tho!" .
You're so stupid💔💔💔
What weakness to magic? Steppenwolf's Electro Axe is half made of magic, and it did nothing.
Ebony maw doesn't have magic he is using telekinesis
@@SivaSiva-gg9qehe's talking about thanos's blade which can be used to throw at people and can come back to him kind of like with Thor and the blade also seems alive defending him like spinning when lasers go after him as I don't think Thanos would be able to spin a blade like that.
Thanos is universal he confirms this in endgame stating that he could destroy the universe and create a new he destroys Titans moon what the power Stone is able to throw pieces of it at ironman Thanos creating a black hole Thanos scales above Thor who survived a dying star there's even more feat when it comes to Thanos
With the stones yes
This is Thanos without the stones + Thanos would have likely died if he did destroy and reshape the universe. Only killing half the universe caused him immense damage, and reducing the stones to the size of atoms nearly killed him. His durability clearly does not scale to that
@@valou-scaling there's no evidence showing he would have died if he decided to recreate or destroy also this is future Thanos not the one that we see at the end of endgame also the reality Stone has been stated to be able to destroy the universe on multiple occasions by characters like malekith Jane Foster and in official data books meaning he wouldn't even need the full Infinity gauntlet to do this
The stones can ,thanos cant
I think Steppenwolf being Planetary is a bit of a stretch with Moon Level being as far as I would push it. Also you did not mention the fact that Superman alongside the entire Justice League was literally vaporized when the mother box unity was synchronyzed and they sent an energy wave that only destroyed the surface of the planet xd, which kinda disproves anyone in the Justice League being above Milti-Continental really, with Superman just being much further into Milti-Continental than the rest of the JL. Also I agree the Justice League should be in the Relativistic+ to Speed of Light with Superman being FTL and flash being FTL+ to MFTL. But I also don't think Marvel scales to such insane degrees so I agree with the outcome of the fight!
Steppenwolf being planetary makes sense, original Doomsday destroyed a moon and steppenwolf was able to equally fight him, and you do know the motherboxes reshape and transforms anything made out of matter, and darksied wanted the boxes to reshape earth to one of his domains so your argument on that is pretty much invalid with the motherboxes , the only reason flash survived was cuz he used the speed force
@@calvinjones7101 sure, although I am still very much in doubt of the Planetary meta for DCEU, but I guess Moon Level now can be more consistent xd
The mother box hax is matter manipulation so no ....superman is planetary or even higher
When something uses matter manipulation, it no longer matters how much raw durability you have. You would need special haxes to resist it or just outright go ignore them like Flash's phasing. Superman's raw durability would be useless even if he has over planetary level durability.
There are 2 reasons for that 1.it uses matter manipulation which can't be blocked and 2.this has been deproved by the fact that the world engine in MoS scales around the same as the mother boxes and Superman survived the beam while weakened and ZSJL Superman is far above MoS Superman
LMAO, No need for Supes or Flash
Wonder Women Solos his Ass
Wonder woman v thanos would be pretty close im not sure if shed win but yeah flash and supes are overkill
They are the characters faster than light or are just their projectiles and attacks just slow?
Cool Video Bro!
I personally have Thor at mftl+ to infinite speed only in his reflexes, reaction, combat, and travel speeds depending on where Asgard is located since its stated that each realm is scattered across the universe. The reason i say this is due to of course the bifrost traveling speed, his reflexes on being able to sense and instinctively look down at hela as she was catching them in the bifrost, the combat and reaction speed were based on him being able to fight and react to hela’s hits. You can debunk this if you’d like but nobody has yet and ive been using these speed feats for a while.
Also i can do Ap and durability for this.. also because of the bifrost 😭.
Thor with Mjolnir had enough Ap to destroy the Bifrost, yes it was also due to the help of Mjolnir but mjolnir wouldnt have been able to do such a thing because it did indeed take multiple hits to destroy it. The Bifrost has enough power, dc, and Ap the destroy entire planets. You could go further and say higher due to loki saying it could damage and or destroy Jotunheim but i wont. You can use another Ap and durability feat that isnt this if its too out of the question being the Neutron star. Many say its not a good feat due to it not being that hot and ghat its weaker than supermans nuke feat and that thor nearly died after the feat which would contradict supermans nuke feat due to him damn near dying aswell. The big thing about a Neutron star especially a collapsing one is that they are more powerful and dense than a Hypergiant star. Thor taking the stated full force of this should theoretically give him large star levels of Durability and could be scaled to his Ap. Thats all i have to say tho because well i hate myself :|
Infinite speed is a high ball
@@coreywilson7326 as i said it depends on where asgard is truly located, either way he is far faster in these speed categories than any dceu character
@@MasharuEdits but using the bifrost is kinda dumb
@@coreywilson7326 how is it dumb?
@@MasharuEdits cause when u said it had infinite speed because it travel across the universe that's not how that works with infinite speed you gotta travel in a infinite distance
W video keep up the good work man🎉
MCU always downplayed 😔
Downplayed?
@@error-4269 Yuh
Yeah
He said on a highball there moon level he isn't down playing
@@Megamind_mogbut he did leave out some important things
Love the content bro
Justice League cant even defeat Rotten Tomatos.
Ouch
Nice burn 😂
Do you mean the one that came out in theaters?
I love these videos because all powers scale RUclips are yapping the whole video
I never understood y ppl say that u can dodge a laser shot so ir faster then light. The other person still has to aim and fire. A lot of times it could just be them countering the person. Ppl irl have dodged gun fire because they see the person aim and move. That doesn't make them being able to move at the same speed as a bullet.
Your comment makes no sense, please correct the grammar so I can understand it
You nerfed Thanos as far as you could and gave every advantage to the justice league. Keep in mind Thor was able to withstand the power of a star for 41 seconds and Thanos is seen dealing massive damage to him without the stones putting his AP above any of the DCU’s known characters.
Now if we are being fair here we should give Thanos at least a few of the stones since that would be what people are looking for when discussing a battle like this. If we do this the league just can’t win even if he only had two stones.
For example time stone would negate the speed advantage, reality stone would turn them to string, and the power stone is planetary as seen in guardians of the galaxy but is stated to be universal. If we really want to be mean here he could turn the league against themselves with the mind stone and we haven’t even begun to talk about how with help of the black order the league wouldn’t even be able to jump him like they did mr wolf.
This would just not be a fight it would be a slaughter.
Love your vids btw keep up the good work!
Thanos wasn't nerfed one bit. Punching Thor up a bit means nothing. Thor died (confirmed by the Russo brothers) to a dying neutron star. Neutron stars at their peak are 8,000,000 degrees Celsius. That ain't much. A nuke is already 100,000,000 degrees Celsius.
So Thanos has at best just below dying star level AP, which is 1/12th of a nuke, and a nuke is large city to small country level. Even a badly weakened Superman survived it. Doomsday ate it like nothing and got stronger for it. ZSJL Superman would've had a nice bath absorbing it. Even WW and Cyborg could endure it for sure.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Bruh Thanos was removed of his standard equipment from the films. That’s like saying your going to remove iron man’s suit or wonder woman’s gear and not call that a nerf.
The stones are consistently universal due to power stone statements, the time stone holding back the dark dimension which is a separate universe, and the reality stone as aether being able to destroy the nine worlds it is also stated that the reality stone is stronger than the aether.
Also a Neutron star is 15 million degrees and keeps that heat going unlike a nuke who’s heat can reach 10 million that briefly hints why Esther would be destroyed by a single nuke but will be by the sun. Even the most brain of people know a nuke is not stronger than a star in any way hints why we can’t blow up the sun or create infinite energy. What you are talking about is nuclear fission unlike the nuclear fusion which would consistently output energy on a level close enough to a Sun to be worth mentioning.
Also as shown and stated Iron Man’s arc reactor does use nuclear fusion as seen in iron man 2.
Thanos and the MCU as a whole here was down played and that’s not even going into his battle experience which is greater than even Wonder Woman.
Also keep in mind Thanos Reacted to Captain Marvel’s flight speed when he threw his sword into the tunnel before she could reach it. Even in this video it is acknowledged that her speeds are greater than anything shown in the DCEU.
Man’s got down played
@@epicsavagebros7400 Captain Marvel wasn't flying anywhere near the speed of light on Earth, buddy. Earth would get eviscerated if she did.
@@TheStraightestWhitestBruh with that logic Flash and Superman weren’t either and you still haven’t been able to answer how he wasn’t downplayed by removing the gauntlet.
@@epicsavagebros7400flash literally said himself that he would destroy the earth if he went much faster than light in some cases, In Snyder cut he went back in time since the world was about to be destroyed, flash also has the speed force that allows him to go unharmed, superman also has his own telekinesis around him breaking the laws of physics, carol doesn’t have anything that would prevent destruction from going light speed, thanos prime was in endgame, the stones aren’t his and he doesn’t have them at base which is why he doesn’t have them in this vs battle
Doomsday vs Superman he was literally just weakened by kryptonite prior coming from a fight with Batman. He wasn't at his oeak power. Wonder woman had her sword which has better Ap than her so yes her attacks would be better. But she isn't stronger. Doomsday was also mutating and getting stronger throughout the fight
she was more powerful BECAUSE he was weakened. if he wasn't weakened they would have been equal, with supes having the upper hand a tad in strength and a bit more in speed. wonder woman was toying with doomsday and was only showing strain when she held him with the lasso, and he was being amped by the energy around him. yes her sword helped her a bit, but it's just because her main projectile wasn't harming doomsday really
He literally just healed in the sun afterwards and didn’t show any sign of weakness stop it
Finally someone who doesn’t downplay the DCEU, I’ve been arguing with MCU shills where they scale the entire universe MTFL+ off captain marvel and they try to tell me Ironman and Thor are faster than WW and Superman in combat/reaction speeds even though Captain marvel has never shown MTFL+ combat speeds or even travel speeds on earth. They do this while saying DCEU Wonder Woman is slower than light off the flash’s statement😑 it’s downplaying one universe while taking another universe’s fears out of context to upscale the MCU. Even though ww has reacted to light beam attacks from doomsday multiple times and so did cyborg who’s been shown to be relative if not slower than WW.
Thanos may have gotten a little boost from the Power stone in the confrontation with the Hulk. At one point their confrontation where the Hulk was choking him, the power stone activates a bit.
No it didn't. Thanos crushed Hulk fair and square
@@bastiancardenas5226 From what me and a friend saw it may be the case. Maybe.
The directors literally confirmed Thanos won fair and square without using the stones bruh
@@dranixrush3306you and your friend saw wrong bro 💀 and he didn’t have the power stone when fighting hulk, he had the space stone.
@@IlKuramalI Purple stone: Correlates with the Power stone.
You've given me a new perspective on Godzilla thanks and who is the anime girl outro
Can you do a video on who’ll win Heisei Godzilla vs earth Godzilla?
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Honestly afters seeing multiverse of madness reality bending abilities are pretty freaking op I mean if he snapped he probably going take out flash and Superman and if he wins and flash goes back in time it’s not like we seen the flash actually fix anything by doing that he’d just make a crazier time line like Superman become dark side or something wild
So what about the reverse, the prime Avengers vs Steppenwolf/darkseid.
They would loose
The avengers would win mainly because of Thor
@@Darkseidsolosfiction Thor, Bleeding Edge iron Man and Hulk would def out up a fight and prob win against steppen wolf mostly because of thor but darkseid vaporizes them no contest
Technically, anyone with the Infinity Gauntlet SHOULD be unbeatable.
Writers don’t understand full control of reality.
The only one who might have a shot is Dr.Manhattan.
Its just reg thanos . no gusntlet
Your scaling for Wonder Woman is right, but your reasoning is flawed as scaling from Man of Steel Supes is wrong because he fought Doomsday while heavily weakened due to the kryptonite smoke bomb he had inhaled and his exposure to the spear when he saved Lois.
I agree. The result remains the same though. She scales to Doomsday who scales to Steppenwolf.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Yeah... Black Suit Supes is beyond them all, but Wonder Woman, Steppenwolf, Cyborg and Aquaman are in that moon level range. Flash is a weird one AP-wise, but his hax carries.
finally someone who understands wonder woman's power scalling
I’ve seen people say DCEU Darkseid is multiversal
Could be with Omega beams or Boom tubes
He probably is ...we don't know because ...wonder woman says he's a threat to all universes
Only with the anti life equation for which he states, that with it he could and would conquer all life throughout the multiverse. But he is just planetary in raw base power
@@crossfire6558 that is a big lie
@@Geralddd966 explain
13:31-Or maybe said beam attacks aren't actually light speed.
That's more reasonable than assuming light speed itself is different in DCEU.
Without thor and Dr.strange, superman alone could solo the avengers
He beats Thor and dr strange aswell, thor got low diffed by the same thanos that Superman can one shot, dr strange is a human and would get speedblitz
@@epsyfn Thanos. Thor, dr starne etc all bitchslap superfodder.
Thor would harass the weak son of el.
@@human3213 Thor struggle to lift house size rock 💀 superman moved a whole tectonic plate which is bigger than a big country, and no diffed Stephen wolf who busted thousands of planets, thanos is barely stronger than Thor and strange is a human who got knocked out when thanos threw him to the ground, superman one shots all of them
Imagine if this justice league had Martian with them too.
For next week in dceu superman vs mv godzilla, I think superman might take it
With high scaling Superman takes it, Godzilla doesn't really have anything in terms of high scaling besides the Permian impact, and I'm only calling it "high scaling" because it could be considered outlier.
He lacks those "interpretation" moments that MCU characters get that allow them to be upscaled quite a lot.
Great content
We all know that the Hulk could have defeated Thanos by himself, but then the movie would have been over in 5 minutes, and the credits would be rolling up. Thanos had to take care of Hulk quickly before he got angrier. It's proven that in the comics. Now, how would Thanos do against Darkseid?
Mcu hulk is nowhere on thanos level even base thanos hulk was getting overpowered by thanos in infinity war with no sweat
@@randallgarcia8545 they did Hulk wrong in the film. Real Hulk fans know that.
No! Thanos whooped Hulkie. Thor was the only one who could ahve taken him out and that's his infinity war version.
@human3213 yet Hulk was the only one qualified to hold the gauntlet, not Thor. None of it makes sense.
@@madmanmark8387you realize it was his radiation so that why he could handle the gauntlet but thor literally beat hulk before he got cheated
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I feel like people always downplay Batman, and how powerful he could be, if he had time to prepare and strategize😂. I feel like Batman right off the bat. If he just jumped into the fight, there’s no way he could even remotely put up a fight against Thanos. I mean, Thanos would blink, and Batman would die. but if Batman, strategized and prepared, he can make something like the hell, bat armor, or the element X Batman armor, which is the top two strongest armor, Batman has worn, and those two armor have been able to win a fight against Darkside. The hell bats suit has gone up against Darkside multiple times and has won. The element X Batman suit hasn’t gone up against dark side as far as I know, but it has been confirmed that it’s the strongest armor Batman has ever worn and is confirmed to be stronger than the hell bat armor. so I would say that the element X Batman armor would win against Darkside. so because of that, if Batman wore any of those two armors, he would physically be able to keep up with guys like Superman and Thanos even. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. he’s already been shown to keep up with Superman in the hellbat armor so if you were to wear the stronger armor, the element X Batman armor, he would more than keep up with Superman, or at minimum still just keep up with Superman, and definitely take on Thanos he’s not just a father character like people like to make him in the justice league.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Those suits are from the comics and aren’t it the DCEU plus didn’t the Hell-Bat armor lose to Darkside.
Batman is a fraud, prep time won't change that
If the argument is that he HAS to prepare first then he's useless.. hello? Nerfed by conditions.
The final bat suit is Batmans strongest ARMOUR that isn't even his strongest form but SUIT his most powerful form is on the same level as Doctor Manhattan who could 1 shot the justice league
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No not really Batman is a very skilled leader he could point the justice league what they need to do or he might have some gadget in his belt that could help the situation
Of course the League can do it. The main issues that the Avengers had with Thanos was that they couldn't outmuscle him (INFINITY WAR) and time travel (ENDGAME). Superman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman should be more than up to the job for outmuscling him, and if time travel really needs to come into play, the League has the Flash.
the mcu thanos meat riders don’t understand that a comment literally said his army would be able to ambush superman and wonder woman 🤣
The Flash could probably solo Thanos's army. @@dreadheadjae06
Wow the Thanos and MCU downplay is crazy.
TLDR Thanos AP = Star+ to Universal, Durability = Solar System+, Speed = High MFTL+ to Inaccessible.
Thanos was able to make Thor (shown in the movie) and Captain Marvel (as show in Secret Invasion) bleed. Thor survived the full force of a neutron star being channeled by a Dyson Sphere. A Dyson Sphere being a fictional object that can harness the full power of a star. Putting Thanos' punches above Star Level. Captain Marvel also casually restarted a star in the Marvels and using her Durability is comparable to her AP that would be two points for Star+.
There is also higher Durability potential for Thor. He tanked blasts from the Ether. The ether along with the other Infinity Stones have multiple sourses saying every individual stone has Universal Power. It was also stated in Dark World that the stone would consume the universe. Also Thanos is stated stronger then Hela. Hela stated that the space stone as not bad but, in the same clip called the casket of ancient winters weak. So if Hela is saying the power of the space stone is not bad, that kinda implies she is above the power of the stone. (I don't really like this point but it's something to throw out there).
For Durability, Thanos takes hits from Thor. Thor Post Awakening is stated to be stronger than Odin by Odin himself. Odin was able to turn Frigg into a cluster of Stars in the Dark World Movie and Tie In Comic, calced at Solar System Level Power. There is also the still annoying to this day Gauntlet vs Stormbreaker. Thanos, yes, didn't use the full power of the Gauntlet, but as stated earlier, each stone has upwards of universal power, and Thanos used all six. So even if you want to say Thanos only used the full power of one stone, thats still at least Universal Stormbreaker. Meaning Thanos' Durability would stand somewhere around Solar System to Universal.
And Speed, the mosted debated thing in the MCU despite the many MFTL+ feats. Thanos can keep up with Thor and Marvel. Thor can casually blitz Black Holes as shown in Dark World. Mjolnir flew from the sun to the Earth in 2 seconds calced at over 400 times FTL. Mjolnir and Jane also flew around the Earth twice in 5 seconds in Love and Thunder. Captain Marvel searched a whole planet in a manner of seconds. According to the Endgame script, Captain Marvel flew 1000 light years in under 24 hours to save Tony, low ball calced to over 365,000 x FTL. Lastly, according to the Endgame script, when flying away with the Gauntlet, Captain Marvel was flying at her fastest ever speed, meaning faster then the Tony saving feat, and Thanos was able to react and throw his sword faster then her.
There are also the 2 inaccessible, or moving in a space with zero time, feats. Doctor Strange in both his movies, moves in the Dark Dimension a place with no time. And Thor fights Dark Elves who existed before time and therefore have Inaccessible Speed. Thanos scales to both characters.
Hopefully this sheads a light on the MCU feats and how the DCEU JLA has no chance.
Nice
New sub, excellent analysis!
When you used the statement of Doomsday destroying a moon to say Steppenwolf is moon level I just knew this was biased.
Firstly Doomsday does exist and it did destroy a moon I agree with that, but there’s no proof that Steppenwolf and Doomsday have fought, you know why? Look at the top of the image where the Steppenwolf Vs Doomsday statement comes from. It says that Lex Luthor and Steppenwolf would be working together and that clearly didn’t happen (funny how you can do all this scaling but you didn’t even read the image that you are using), plus that book that you are taking that statement from wasn’t even made by the DCEU or Zack Snyder, it was made by a Hollywood magazine to hype the movie up.
That book blatantly has false information and wasn’t made by an official DC executive. As such it’s entirely unreliable.
Secondly you using the comic scan to justify the DCEU League as all light timers is just wrong, in DC Comics we have official and proven feats to confirm that that scan is just wrong while nothing says that in the movies.
Thirdly the world engine is not a Blackhole, it wouldn’t make any sense that a Blackhole would only effect things in the phantom zone and nothing else+ there’s a statement in the film made by Professor Hamilton where he says it’s like a blackhole but isn’t.
Fourthly Diana doesn’t scale to Superman in terms of strength or power, Superman was weakened when he fought Doomsday and she was using her weapons to fight Doomsday and she literally got blitzed by Clark in Justice League film.
Fifthly the Devils Anus was stated to be a magnetar, a magnetar releases more energy in 1/10 of a second than our own sun does in 150,000 years (look it up). The ship Korg and Loki rescued the Asgardians on went through this magnetar and it was completely destroyed by the power stone, an explosion Thor survived. Thanos almost killed Thor in a few hits, a stronger Thor who survived the destruction of a ship that can survive the energy of a magnetar and take no damage.
Sixthly Thanos survived two snaps, the snap was stated by Rocket to give off more energy than anything in the universe.
Steppenwolf isn’t even close to Thanos and neither is the Justice League, Thanos is a casual planet buster while the JL MAX at Multi-Continental. The league is faster sure but speed will only get you so far against a character who is so much stronger, more experienced, skilled and more durable than you.
Good video nonetheless tho, can tell you put a lot of effort into it.
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You should also mention weakened Thor surviving the neutron star. Despite some people saying it's island level, said calc doesn't take into account the Dyson Sphere, which gets the calc to large star, borderline solar system level.
Bro made a whole 5 course meal
The justice league wipes thanos easily the justice league are pretty much gods superman alone can fuck up thanos but adding Wonder Woman who can go toe to toe with Superman the flash thanos is not touching the flash if you thought iron man put up a fight with thanos I guarantee Batman could
Thanos is a casual planet buster but was getting worked by a super soldier with a hammer and a man in a iron suit. Yeah totally believe that.
@@sharktopusvonjr2374 It does you just don't know how to scale. Being star level would require the energy to destroy one.
I think that Thanos would easily be the most powerful character in this fight even without the stones, due to feats of fighting the Trinity in a 1v3 and toying with them, performing the snap Twice, and being comparable if not superior to the likes of Thor and Hela.
Although given that it’s a 6v1 and the league is very versatile with their abilities, it would be an interesting fight especially with the new shit that Flash can do
Overall I’d give it to Thanos High Difficulty
yeah he’d get knocked around and ragdolled a lot but ultimately he’d only struggle with superman and flash, but since he’s reacted to similar speed attacks even in a weakened state, he should be fine for the most part.
Get him Past doomsday first
@@postable8880 not gunna be a problem 😁
@@TheGamingRift11 he can't beat doomsday neither can he beat sw without stones
@@postable8880 even though he has more than enough feats putting him comfortably above this version of Doomsday 🫠
@@TheGamingRift11 no he doesn't without stones he has no planetary or moon level feats or statements above dd or sw or fo u mean bvs doomsday?
I disagree, heres why.
While yes everything you said was correct, in guardians of the galaxy Ronan tanked Rocket’s blaster which was stated to destroy moons. and wasn’t hurt at all, and earlier in the movie Thanos was stated to be the most powerful dude in the universe. meaning he is above Ronan, in Thor 1, Thor cracked a planet 1.5 times larger then the planet, with one strike. and left it in chunks (not rlly) meaning Thor pre ragnarok is already above moon level, with one hit. in ZSJL, it was shown in a flashback of the future that the cube thing was gonna “destroy” the planet but it was shown that it only destroyed the continent aka crust. meaning the explosion is multi continental at best, Superman was vaporised by that explosion completely. meaning Ronan basically tanked what vaporized Superman easily. and he is weaker then Thanos by alot.
even if Superman is planetary, he cant get speed blized either, yeah ik Superman and Flash are faster then light. but he has many feats of reacting to light as well, in infinity war he casually reacted to Iron Man’s blaster which are beams of light, in Thor one Thor casually blocks Destroyer’s beam of light. meaning mcu characters can agruably react at light speed, Thanos survived the infinity gauntlet which alot vaporized the guardians including drax, who can survive attacks from Ronan. using this scaling pretty much means that Thanos, and the heavy hitters of the mcu (exept cm, cap and ironman) can beat Superman easily, if we highball this then it’s a one shot
dont read all only read a bit, btw i predict that Godzilla would beat up the jl. this comment is not a mean of offense to you i like ur channel
Ronan only tanked it because he used the power stone to amp his stats by multiple folds. The power stone's one ability includes being able to increase the user's strength and durability. Upon watching the scene again, the stone was glowing. Without the stone, Ronan was stated to only be around the level of base Captain Marvel, since he is a Kree.
@@crossfire6558 Ironic you mention captain marvel, since she was confirmed to have gone through a black hole, given her planet to star levels of durability.
@@justinsarfo829 "base" captain marvel
@@crossfire6558Odin was able to turn Frigga into several stars, it was calculated to be solar system level. Thor was stated to have surpassed Odin. And Thanos would beat Thor. backed up by “most powerful being in the universe” statements. The reality stone was said to have the power to destroy the entire galaxy, Dormammu was stated to be an inter dimensional being, and it took 7 seconds for his blast to destroy Strange’s beam. And thanos’ kick whilst holding back one shotted the shield.
@@SuperGo699 odin did that via hax. Not raw power.
The Infinity Stones only work in the universe in which they're created. In the DC universe, The'll be just pretty stones with no functionality. Thanos is easily One-shotted. Now if DC crossed over to the Marvel universe, then you'll have a little even playing field to a degree. But the JL will still be too OP for Thanos and his Army.
Chronic just replaced the Avengers with the JL so their still in the 616 Universe just with the JL instead of the Avengers
LOL I love how if Thanos comes to the Earth any Justice League member can handle him in their day-off like its noting 😂😂
Thanos & The Black Order are both Universal. Thanos & his army were wiping out planets all over the univerde before he even find out about The Infinity Stones. Also, Thanos is an Eternal, The Eternals go from planet to planet across the universe, can deal with any situation on those planets to prepare them for "The Emergence."
The emergence is only planetary level as the birth of a celestial only destroys a planet. Thanos is half eternal, so he isn't part of those eternals' team. He is a hybrid with completely different agenda
No way you lowballed Thanos like this? Hes stated to be universal and is eaisly planetary scaking above odin and otherf beings who are earth busters. The stones not only amp him but also amp each other a lot. This is a dumb low ball for thanos and he easily beats JL
Awesome video. Yes there are allot of arguments. But i love that you stated facts throughout the video. The first part was boring but it had to be done. Anyway. I 100% know and feel that superman would be able to kill Thanos. And even the flash can. I know you didnt talk about flashes combat vs thanos , ofc thanos has more skills, but he is way slower. Flash can do exactly what you said about superman. Run up to thanos, chop his head off and all that before thanos can ever realise it. MCU fans think DC characters suck so much, when in fact the power levels are the other way around.
Honestly fat thor being stronger than in shaoe thor is dumb if its true. Why make him fat or not have him train to lose the weight or at least lean up like buff like a beefy guy with weight. I want to see his biceps big 💪🏾
Also, he says the flash and superman should be around the same speed due to them, being pretty much consistent throughout the films, but he failed to realize that the flash was purposely pushing himself slower than the speed of light as he didn’t want to time travel also, the black hole is never stated, or even hinted to just be sucking in kryptonian things as it was also sucking in military ships and pieces of rubble from nearby buildings
The MCU downplay is getting ridiculous
Can't be help 😞.
Not really. JL just has more heavy hitters. Also I doubt that any of the writers would mischaracterize any of JL as badly as they did the Hulk. And made any of them too scared to fight Thanos.
@@terrybullspellr8319 Thor, Hulk, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, Scarlet Witch, etc. meanwhile the JL’s heavy hitters are only flash and Superman.
@@Chckster with the exception of Batman an argument can made Aquaman and cyborg are borderline heavy hitters and wonder woman is literally a god in that continuity similar to Thor. If you consider the fact they are a just the six ppl on JL compared to just the avengers. They actually stronger
@@terrybullspellr8319 I think it’s pretty clear people like Aquaman and Wonder Woman aren’t comparable to people like Superman, Thor, and Hulk physically.
And cyborg? Seriously? Cyborg vs. iron man is the debate not cyborg vs. Thor.
Loki is a god does that make him Superman tier?
massive downplay on MCU's ap scaling and DC's overall scaling
Interesting Battle but to me Thanos still wins. He has a higher iq level and it is said that the Titan Race posses godlike superhuman strength that greatly rivals even the strongest of beings. Even if Superman does land a few blows, Thanos is going to hit back with over twice the power and force, not to forget that he's been around for over a thousand years.
Yet Darkseid beats Thanos
@@ryanzod6986 not DCEU Darkseid. He's not on the same level as MCU Thanos is. Darkseid in DCEU is only Small Country level and MCU Thanos is at Large Country level+.
Can mcu thanos hit a being that can travel faster than the speed of light? And even if he could, superman durability is AT LEAST equal to that of thors so it wouldn't really matter even if purple dildo man did hit him, thor almost died to a star, superman draws power from stars, superman durability is greater than thors and so is his speed and strength
@@augustuswalsh5530Small country level while bro was stated to have destroyed entire planets, and is way stronger than Steppenwolf who fought a moon busting Doomsday ? Now come on, where is this scaling from ? Vs battle wiki ?
@@valou-scaling Yes.
And for your advice, Darkseid didn't destroying entire planets, he only sends his armies to do that.
Ebony Maw is actually the leagues biggest problem… if given the chance he does have the ability to (let’s say persuade) people. He might be able to get them fighting amongst themselves. Like if Maw showed up when the brought Superman back from the dead he could easily take over Superman’s mind.
so Maw with his movie feats is gonna do what Wonder Womans god given Lasso of truth couldnt? is maw gonna do this before or after superman headbutts him into the concrete like a snow angel
I'm done bruh, the MCU downplay was too far on this one.
Exactly! It's 2024, and niggas are still downplaying it. Weird.
@@justinsarfo829You know the funniest part? The source for DCEU being moon lvl comes from some random guy who wrote a random magazine and has 0 evidence that it connects to synder, DC, or WB.
Meanwhile in the MCU, Thor 1’s director literally says Thor’s fight with Loki can destroy the universe but he just ignores it.
Hes a DC meat rider
@@Chcksterwhat the actual fuck are you talking about😭😭😭
He literally showed snyder saying in the video
Aquaman is a spongebob victim.
*Super Friends
@@Zyman4 That was probaly biggest stomp in death battle history.
@@Zyman4w
Flash had to " reverse" events BECAUSE THEY LOST😂... If this is to be done properly then the circumstances must also be the same. Meaning Supes and Diana are attacked by Thanos and his Black Order....By surprise. Just like Thor and Hulk. In a spaceship of civilians, where you cant truly go all out....Same for whoever you use to stand in for Vision and Wanda....They were ambushed. Caught unawares. Same would happen to Flash or Aquaman. Yeah, Batman helps just like Cap did, but the Black Order outclass him. Aquaman, Batman, Diana and Flash join the Wakandans and fight thousands of " dog soldiers". WAY more than the Parademons that gave them trouble in the JLA flick. SUPERMAN Arrives as the Cavalry, just like Thor and turns the tide BUT Cyborg LOSES on Titan just like Iron man does. ...Thanos STILL arrives on earth WITH THE GEMS....Justice League Loses worse than the Avengers did.
buddy superman solos thanos whole army alone non of them could stop him besides thanos flash can freeze time and kill his whole army
superman, flash, and wonder man has crazy speed unlike the avengers team
justice league beats the avengers.
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I think Batman's tech is basically equivalent to ironman's but Batman is just less reliant on it so he isn't useless. In this fight, he would be using his tech like ironman always does. Ironman's suit pretty much just a more compact version of a weapon platform. Not much different from Batmans combat vehicles. The both essentially are going to use some form of technology wrapped in armor. Its just that one sell the idea he is more useful because his tech is human shaped and gives the illusion that he is taking a bigger risk.
Superman alone no diffs Thanos. He could just take off the gauntlet and throw it into space. Then just beat up the mad grape
thanos is much stronger, durable, skilled, experinced and can easily react to superman
@@RealmOfFiction whatever you say lil bro
Forgot that Cyborg has access to all tech on earth hiving him the ability to launch all the nukes on earth with a thought confirmed. Also justice league characters are much smarter than the smartest in mcu. Cyborg is similar to vision being connected to the internet having ai lvl intellect, wonder woman has fought in every war with many years of experience and adaptability and superman and flash move so much faster than everyone that before someone could blink they could learn all the knowledge earth has to offer.
As much as I like MCU more than DCEU, there's just no way any one in MCU can take anyone from DCEU. They can at best match them in terms of power and ap, but the speed difference is just way too vast to even make it fair. Superman can literally speed blitz anyone in the MCU, even if characters like Hulk or Thor can match his power they can't do anything if he can just treat them like he did against Stephan Wolf. Flash is even worse cause no one in MCU can even come close to MFTL, they barely reach FTL and that's a high end for them. Batman would be the only easy combatant to deal with, if their street level characters jumped him at once. I'm talking Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Captain America, and even then they might not even stand a chance in a one v one situation, only Steve could possibly but he's not even his equal in terms of pure skill.
Tony might be able to deal with Cyborg, but it'll be tough so I'd say mid to high diff. Wonder Woman is just gonna be close to impossible cause of her fighting prowess and skill, especially with her magical arsenal, I'm pretty sure she could one v one any of their heavy hitters and take a W. Hulk and Thor would have to two v one her to pull a win, and even then only Thor might be able to keep up with her while Hulk might be too slow to even keep up with her. Aquaman is the same as Wonder Woman, gonna need Hulk and Thor for him.
Flash and Superman, those two by themselves are just gonna speed blitz them, it's not even a contest. These two alone could easily one shot the MCU short of the Cosmic beings like Celestials.
So overall, DCEU vs MCU match ups are just gonna be favoring the DCEU every time with some small exceptions because of the speed and overall power gap.
Wow you dont know shit about the MCU this guy downplayed the MCU so hard saying no one in the Avengers is planetary like Thor 1, he destroyed the bifrost which makes him large planetary 😂
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I never got the moon downplay. We see Thanos after that wipe half all of life in the universe before showing any kind of exhaustion, clearly his limit is nowhere near moon lol
Even phase 1 Thor has a planet level feat in his first film
Just gotta assume this dude doesn’t do his research
@@Chckster, I've seen a few of his videos and while he does do research, a lot of times he downplays or assumes things when talking about characters.
How can you claim to have done research while ignoring one of the most iconic endings in cinema? Lol
@@dudewithachannel1163 My main issue is that in his original JL vs. Thanos video he didn’t even once mention the MCU’s most iconic feat, Thor taking the neutron star
Like, I get there’s some calcs placing it at multi continential, but it’s the most famous feat and you don’t mention it once??? Whereas you mention unknown guides for the DCEU??? Even just a quick little “Thor’s star feat is calced at multi continential” would’ve been fine but it just goes unmentioned
@@Chckster, somebody's gotta make content for the fanboys. It's funny seeing people like this try to say things like the Arkham Suicide Squad have nuke level durability to justify their plot armor and bad writing, when they painfully cherry pick their "facts" and ignore things like the not at all nuke level bombs in their heads, aka the things that drive the plot.
I know that isn't related to the dceu but it's an example of these people cherry picking
@XD_ist because the feat is so unqantifiable that even the vs battle wiki only got to like Large Country level which would be a down grade to all the high end scaling mentioned in this video, But yeah ur right he could've atleast mentioned it
I think you forgot to mention an interesting feat from Black Adam. I mean, it's not really a feat, but it could have been
In one of the comic tie-ins for the Black Adam movie, Doctor Fate has a vision of the future (which is even referenced in the movie) in which Black Adam isn't stopped. In the vision, the Justice Society is dead, the moon is destroyed and fragments of it are fallig down on Earth
Didn’t forget it I’m just saving it for the DCEU Superman scaling
@@Goji-C Nice, there's also an Aquaman tie-in comic in which some sea creatures have a feat involving a tectonic plate
It's not that impressive compared to the moon level stuff, but I mean, it's a nice feat for some characters that are below even Aquaman
Great video and scaling but you can scale mcu thanos higer
Low end MCU Thanos to : multi continental to moon level
Mcu thanos to : Planetary to star 🌟 level
Thanos easily beats them all,most of the justice leaugers are all kinda useless except Superman,but even then it’s still in thanos’s favor,thanos is physically stronger,because he’s stronger than Thor,who has destroyed a city with one shot in sokovia,destroyed a planet in LAT,and resisted the gravistational power of a star. Thanos might not be as fast as Superman,but he can react to him,he reacted to captain marvel who’s faster (6x the speed of light) also I’m sure everyone forgot this but when you lift the hammer of Thor,you gain Thors strength and power,so thanos was fighting 2 Thors in Avengers endgame,also he’s mentioned to be the most powerful force in the universe,a universe filled with celestials. (Keyword,he’s more powerful,not physically stronger than them) So yeah,thanos takes this pretty comfortably
another cap video MCU always downplayed Thor can easily be scaled to universal
Thor isn’t close to universal but he is often downplayed.
Only wank scales Thor to that.
My man legit ignored that thanos
fought on par with captain marvel who could reinginite a star she was also stated to be as powerful as Thor thanos bullied the strongest version of Thor at that time making him stronger than captain marvel and Thor which puts him at star level t and that's a lowball seeing as captain marvel reignite it casually
He ignored a LOT.
For example, Thor 1’s director literally said Thor’s fight with Loki could destroy the entire universe.
I’m not making this up. Here’s the quote:
“The biblical battle between two brothers whose conflict, now, is capable of destroying part of all of the universe”
Thor 1 director HIMSELF said that. Thor has a TON of other universal/multiversal feats too but he just ignored it
Why tf would thanos or even thor scale to current Carol make it make sense
@@jcvandyck3537 Thanos is still the strongest villain ever introduced in the MCU.
He was called the strongest in history by the russos which would scale him directly above Dar-Benn…. You can see where I’m going with this.
@@Chckster Carol is far stronger now, especially due the fact she almost beat him in endgame and he had to use the stones to gain the upper hand
@@jcvandyck3537 she absorbed the power of the stones in endgame, that’s why she was getting so strong
Anyways refer to the previous statement
Bruh Superman alone wipes the floor with thanos and his whole crew ….. ( without the stones )
Thanos slaps away the dceu
Bro great video..but can u do a comic version 💪🏼🙏🏽 ik it would be a great video especially when we have a thanos who had the gauntlet and didnt use it cuz Mephisto basically said you want to look better to Mistress Death
It’s been years since the infinity saga finished and y’all ARE STILL downplaying the MCU even in this video. How is it 2023, almost 2024 and you’re still saying Thor and Thanos are only up to multi continental? And relativistic? This scaling was ass bruh.
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@@Goji-C this scaling is more accurate ruclips.net/video/w-Lfl_fVG5M/видео.htmlsi=WnQXxqmJf3jlg56r
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@@DT25659You mean the dumbass scale that makes MCU universal😂. Get out of here.
@@lordraiden7397 that was at a high-end and it’s definitely better than capping the characters at continental.
Just the base league
If we include shazam black adam hawkman doctor fate zeus ares the lanterns thanos and his army would stand no chance
Now Thats just overkill💀
Superman could clap him in 2 seconds, Wonder Woman could also sort him out, not as easily but she'd win, The Flash has super speed and can phase. Those 3 can do a lot of damage...That said, even in endgame Thor, Wanda, Strange should have been able to defeat him without the gauntlet but writers said no...so at the end of the day these things depend on who is writing and for what purpose.
Scale those mfs to country then talk
Superman is enough
And no Tony doesn't say the gauntlet emits enough energy to blow up a continent he says "light up" which outside a gunfire fight(which usually has a slightly different syntax light [subject] up) means power. As in light up a Xmas tree and we know he means power bc he used the exact same phrase when telling Pepper to boot up Stark Tower in the first avengers
as superman fan if thanos has all stones then it’s more on thanos side but with help yeah
@@dreadheadjae06 if Thanos has all the stones if Clark knowledge of the gauntlet he's still enough. If he doesn't know what he's up against then favor goes to Thanos team
Downplayed Thanos he’s very easily planetary to multi planetary
Ok a couple things wrong one in BvS superman wasn't weaker then WW ahe was under the affects of bats kryptonite dust two superman wasn't empowered by the mother box it's just him not holding back