Ash of War Tier List- ELDEN RING PATCH 1.09 2023

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  • @unwashedhands2087
    @unwashedhands2087 Год назад +216

    bros caught in an infinite loop of tier lists

  • @common_undead
    @common_undead Год назад +53

    The only pick I massively disagree with is cragblade. It is still a 15% damage physical damage buff (better than war cry or barbaric roar if you like your current heavy attack), not to mention the 10% poise damage increase is especially good on weapons like great hammers or colossal swords which are usually only just shy of stance breaking bosses using 2-3 charged R2s. It's also really good on things like the iron balls or star fist which can allow you to easily script a lot of the bosses in the game, even at extremely low levels.

    • @janebtar2167
      @janebtar2167 Год назад +3

      I currently run banished knights GS 2handed with cragblade. The Fast hard hitting attacks of the R1s really benefit from the damage buff, and the Extra stance damage stancebreaks pretty much everything in 2 R2s

    • @ethanpispas4098
      @ethanpispas4098 9 месяцев назад +1

      Cragblade is upper S tier. No question about it. Especially since he put worse 10% buffs at a tier.

  • @AceAviations2
    @AceAviations2 Год назад +23

    Some points for a few Ahes of War:
    1. Golden Land has two case uses that are pretty good. The Butchering Knife and Great Stars heal with each projectile, also the projectiles carry over effects on the weapon from buffs, so Bloodflame Blade and Black Flame Blade. So this synergies well with those two weapons in particular.
    2. Shared Order allows you to buff the weapon with Shared Order, yes you lose out on an Ash of War, but if you run a shield with an Ash of War this isnt as big of an issue as you'll probably be parrying or using a unique Shield skill (Flame Spit).
    3. Gravitas is AMAZING for flying enemies, that nasty bird run in Farum Azula is MUCH easier with a weapon that has Gravitas. Also you get some pretty serious hyper-armor as those birds can hit you and youll still power through to INTSANTLY grounds and stuns them. Its also able to intereupt Claymen attacks, and you know how hard thise things are to interrupt. However its you best counter to Bats, Hawks and Warhawks with how pretty much trivializes them, also pretty good for the winged Mosbegotten enemies with bows.
    4. Poison and Chilling Mist work very well on the Butchering Knife and Great Stars as enemies that stand in the mist (even if they cant be statused) are considered as "taking damage" so you get healed by this thanks to the unique properties that thise weapons have. This was shockingly effective against Elden Beast where I'd hit with the weapon and deal 700+ damage with the hit before the "healing mist" started working. Was also able to keep Radagon Poisoned for most of that part of the fight as well.

  • @xChirox
    @xChirox Год назад +20

    Truly don't understand Quickstep being S tier and Bloodhound step being B tier, great vid tho!

    • @mr.pistachio9970
      @mr.pistachio9970 6 месяцев назад +1

      Like even if it might be better depending on your build it looks so much cooler and is so much safer

    • @BUZZKILLJRJR
      @BUZZKILLJRJR 6 месяцев назад

      Can you still be hit while doing blood step versus Quick step? The distance? FP cost? I imagine those have to do something with the reasoning behind that

    • @doofusrick5998
      @doofusrick5998 5 месяцев назад +1

      In earlier builds of the game, quickstep was pretty much directly outclassed by BHS, but from nerfed it in one of the other updates. At launch, you could just use BHS to dodge waterfowl dance for free but now it takes a little more thought and you can't just mindlessly spam it to avoid damage. I think they increased the recovery time at the end of the animation so you're vulnerable for more frames, but I'm not entirely sure. All that is to say, yes technically BHS was probably better but this is no longer the case

  • @Aiden-Ed
    @Aiden-Ed Год назад +14

    The weird thing about storm stomp is that its great for enemies with low poise, but useless for enemies with high poise. Like if you need every enemy around you to be stunned for a second to set up an attack or run away its perfect. Otherwise theres nothing really special about it.

  • @Melody1x23
    @Melody1x23 Год назад +23

    Square off does 30 poise damage on the light version, and 40 on the heavy, it staggers most bosses in 2 hits imo its the best ash of war in the game

    • @evanpeterson8634
      @evanpeterson8634 Год назад +11

      For reals people just put it low cause it’s standard but you legit can run through the game only with this Ashe of war. Sad that you can’t put it on greatswords

    • @Melody1x23
      @Melody1x23 Год назад +7

      @@evanpeterson8634 idk i think on greatswords it would be too op, but yeah its weird how so many people love unsheathe but sleep on square off

    • @daciannation5847
      @daciannation5847 Год назад +2

      Remember when flame of the redmanes had 40 poise damage that was an insane time man.

    • @janebtar2167
      @janebtar2167 Год назад +2

      ​@@Melody1x23especially since square off is way cheaper than unsheathe

  • @MrBiosh0ck
    @MrBiosh0ck Год назад +16

    You should do this cor the unique weapon ashes

    • @DenisLevchenko
      @DenisLevchenko Год назад +1

      This. I asked him a couple times already. Would be great especially since I don’t think he ever covered them in a list

  • @phantom_val
    @phantom_val Год назад +21

    Spinning weapon isn't just for glintstone staffs, it's just that glintstone staffs can only take spinning weapon.

  • @DuVtrell
    @DuVtrell Год назад +8

    I'd love to see more Black Flame ashes of a war. Maybe even a grease too.

  • @bagelfromheaven7281
    @bagelfromheaven7281 Год назад +7

    Wake up babe Elden ring tier man posted

  • @LoganLoux
    @LoganLoux Год назад +2

    Man, you really don't like storm assault. I think its pretty cool and not to boast, but I fought the draconic tree sentinel at faram azula using a halberd with storm assault and let me tell you, I broke the enemy's stance a couple times and with right timing I was able to doge over some attacks. Sometimes, you gotta enjoy fighting in style.

  • @petercselik5674
    @petercselik5674 Год назад +2

    Chiling mist applies cold on your weapon after done a double damage with the AOE slash and have a really decent cold status build up. The mist keep apply frostbite status on those standing in or going through and its linger there for a time (and its proc so stationary enemies will having fun).
    Bloody slash is one of the option to shoot through walls and obstacles killing enemies while you are safe. It has a relatively small AOE but its able to hit multiple enemies (through wall) and scaling with the weapon damage so if you have a good physical dmg you might dont even want the blood infusion, but buffing up the weapon and one hit things with this... while it doesn't even know you there because you behind a wall (imps behind the corners in catacombs, mines...etc). Have little use in PVP as you have to make your enemy stand still while you try to hit them

  • @Minecraftxpo
    @Minecraftxpo Год назад +4

    spinning weapon can be used on more then just staves. You can use it on some polearms like scythes, good for procing bleed in some cases but not as good as just infusing with bleed.

  • @benro6564
    @benro6564 Год назад +6

    Endure used to be called Perseverence in ds3 and it was absolutely broken because it activated nearly instantly. Now it's just decent.

    • @triploshadow
      @triploshadow 6 месяцев назад

      Perseverance in ds3 was never broken it was great for noobstomping on PVP but against any decent player it was waaaay too predictable on pve it was as useless as can be. Its probably way better now in elden ring since you can use it on a dagger and cast draconic incants.

    • @ItsNothingAmazing
      @ItsNothingAmazing 5 месяцев назад

      Endure on PvP is S tier imo. There's a reason why a lot of streamers like jeenine use it a lot

  • @tythegreatttg
    @tythegreatttg Год назад +4

    I wish you showed clips of the AoW being used for us new players that don't actually know what the AoWs does

  • @tuids8197
    @tuids8197 Месяц назад

    I have only seen two of your videos, but I like how you explain your reasons and it seems that you have a lot of knowledge of the game. I suscribe

  • @joeyjones9041
    @joeyjones9041 Год назад +3

    Chilling Mist procs Frostbite on enemies really quickly, maybe you should give it another try, love it on my Strength/intelligence Frost Knight

  • @ethandonnelly1973
    @ethandonnelly1973 Год назад +8

    Im not sure what dmg beast roar has but the storm blade would only be subpar at a distance. If you're up close it murders everythingcuz the blade connecting does huge 2 tap damage

  • @erickkao1351
    @erickkao1351 Год назад +1

    Square Off's heavy input does 40 stance damage while the light version does 30. It also only uses 6/8.
    In comparison, AotC: Tail, which requires 27 Faith, a spell slot, 20 FP, and does less damage, does 52.
    For literally a quarter of the FP cost, you do more damage and can stagger just as easily. Square off is INSANE

  • @VSN-wb2ly
    @VSN-wb2ly 8 месяцев назад +1

    Repeating thrust is insanely good for status build up

  • @almansour_82
    @almansour_82 Год назад +2

    Sword dance + night cavalry glaive is insane. Trust me

  • @ethandonnelly1973
    @ethandonnelly1973 Год назад +3

    I would just say, barricade shield stops a good chunk of the games enemies from doing anything because they bounce. You can just stun lock them to death with guard counters

    • @jankbunky4279
      @jankbunky4279 Год назад

      True, but large shields are also very good at that.

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Год назад +1

      @jankbunky4279 yup but they're alot heavier. Basically any build can run a medium shield with barricade so it's utility at any time and medium shields also have access to anti magic and extended range parries, so in general they're just very versatile

    • @jankbunky4279
      @jankbunky4279 Год назад

      @@ethandonnelly1973 very true, for sure. But there are like 2 or 3 large shields that are surprisingly light, and don't require much strength.

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Год назад

      @jankbunky4279 That's fair, at the bare minimum you can snag them early game and swap later if you wish, though I don't think great shields can have carian or golden can they?

  • @8-bitten
    @8-bitten Год назад +3

    Jesus I see this on everyone's videos and fex wiki. Nobody ever gives Sacred Blade credit for killing skeletons in one death. Not just the ranged attack but your weapon glows for a minute and undead stay dead. Sacred Blade is S-Tier

    • @RemingtonSteel
      @RemingtonSteel Год назад +1

      How often are you fighting skeletons tho. I use it on my Morningstar for those dungeons but that's about it. I'd put it at B tier

    • @laserduck4238
      @laserduck4238 9 месяцев назад

      It also absolutely obliterates death rite birds. If the one in mountaintops is ever giving you trouble just slap this on and aim for the head

  • @FayeRantTheStrong
    @FayeRantTheStrong Год назад +4

    Flaming strike +faith/str build +flame art infusion +flame grant me strength +golden vow +fire scorpion charm +shard of alexander +fire shrouded tear and you'll burn demigods' asses off

    • @UraBless
      @UraBless Год назад

      Except Mohg or Rykard. Because, y'know, reasons.

    • @FayeRantTheStrong
      @FayeRantTheStrong Год назад +2

      @@UraBless still don't know why Lord of Blood is more vulnerable to bleeding than to fire lol

    • @UraBless
      @UraBless Год назад +1

      @@FayeRantTheStrong Because Mohg wants to drench the world in blood. It doesn't matter whose blood it is.
      (also there's the small thing about bleeding activating Mohg's own lord of blood exultation)

  • @RIBAYRO
    @RIBAYRO Год назад +1

    Idk endure has been pretty nutty on my ps dagger build. I'd say it's usefulness on faster ps or dual weapons would warrant at least the A tier.
    I guess some people might prefer straight weapon buffs, but by just focusing on endure I don't need to worry about disengaging to reapply weapon buffs. It also allows me to pretty much face tank anything and pump up the buff from prosthesis and sword insignia.

  • @felixcote1697
    @felixcote1697 Год назад +1

    I litteraly completed an overweight run using only Prayerful strike, litteraly the most broken thing in the game, didnt need a single dodge and beat every single boss other than Elden Beast (for EB I allowed myself to run, but no dodges)

  • @derMann-1
    @derMann-1 Год назад +1

    Assassins gambit is a tier it can cheese the morgott fight so that he can't see you and you can comet azur him or do smth else
    try it out against morgott

  • @letsbehonest7380
    @letsbehonest7380 Год назад +3

    No lie wild strikes on the claymore with frost is def my absolute favorite ash of war in the game its so dam reliable and because of the boost in poise and armor it helps to imbolden me to go on the attack when facing intimidating enemies like the ball bearing hunters

  • @Pkasso89
    @Pkasso89 Год назад +1

    Sacred Order is not bugged.
    It's just a unique kind of buff.
    It is considered a weapon buff but it acts like baby Golden Vow.
    It is flat 10% dmg from every source. Spells, physical, magic, fire - all damage +10%.
    This stacks with Shared Order but most would prefer Golden Vow over Shared Order.
    Sacred Order, Golden Vow, FGMS all stack for 45% dmg boost.
    You should have Sacred Order on a dagger no matter what class you play.
    This isn't a bug, that's just how it works.

    • @common_undead
      @common_undead Год назад

      No it got broken specifically in the most recent hotfix. Originally, if you used the buff and then swapped weapons, the buff would be gone. But now it stays. Like you can use the tree spears and use the sacred order ash of war and then swap to the coded swords and the coded swords will keep the damage buff (and now have the length of the tree spears), even when you don't have the tree spears on your character's load out anymore. It's the same thing that happened to the jellyfish shield in 1.09

  • @machewe1158
    @machewe1158 Год назад +1

    Spinning weapon works on more than staffs. I played around with it a little with polearms for status effects, definitely js fun to have a spinning pike in front of you.

  • @flyingbagel7270
    @flyingbagel7270 Год назад +1

    I think you did golden parry dirty. In terms of parries it is definitively the best. Carian retaliation works on a lot less than you might think, and besides the erdtree greatshield aow is just better. Please give shield crash a chance it does way more damage than you would expect.

  • @izzydarkhart4144
    @izzydarkhart4144 Год назад

    Once you get all of the wet stones, it takes all of this ash of war to a new level, and some of the broken. Like giving blood or occult affinity to every ash of war becomes extremely broken. Also, some for cold and magic. Magic and sacred has some of the worst ash of war, but now you can make any ash of war magic affinity that can expand your build options by a lot. Also, I have killed every boss with bloody slash with occult, extremely slept on with 80% Arcane. You do not care about bleed proces because the physical damage is so high it does not matter.

  • @mrtim2721
    @mrtim2721 Год назад

    Waves of Darkness honestly deserves better, imo. It has almost the same amount of FP cost as Stormcaller (21 and 20 respectively), has faster initial input, higher hyperarmor, is compatible with successive attacks boosting items, Spellblade set, Terra Magica and is comparable to Stormcaller in terms of poise damage while having significantly shorter animation

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR 6 месяцев назад

    I used wild strikes on the great stars when I fought Melania, the first time a on my third try she was done it worked very well.

  • @Gorlami90
    @Gorlami90 Год назад +1

    Phantom slash should be on most weapon classes

  • @ungratefulingrate1268
    @ungratefulingrate1268 Год назад +1

    Kick should be D, it's a waste of an aow, while Poison Moth Flight has niche uses in resetting poison and doing bleed like damage. It's bad but not useless, unlike kick

    • @RemingtonSteel
      @RemingtonSteel Год назад

      Kick works great on shields. One kick and they drop the shield for an easy hit. Work well with a dagger build.

    • @ungratefulingrate1268
      @ungratefulingrate1268 Год назад

      @@RemingtonSteel backstab to avoid being vulnerable to other enemies

  • @DIABETOR
    @DIABETOR Год назад +1

    Currently in awe of the audacity this guy has to not only put Cragblade and Gambit in the same tier as White Shadow’s Lure, but to also put Lure in *B* tier of all things. Either this guy knows something about Lure that I don’t, or he’s got some laughably bad takes.

    • @youwy
      @youwy  Год назад

      Out of 90 ashes of war you only disagree with a couple of my takes. I’m glad we’re mostly in agreement then 🥰❤️

    • @DIABETOR
      @DIABETOR Год назад

      @@youwy Actually yeah more or less but I do think you're definitely over- or under-selling the quality of a number of them

  • @onearmedwolf6512
    @onearmedwolf6512 6 месяцев назад

    Double slash on nagikiba is amazing. Its how i beat malenia on my forst playtgrough. Damage of it was great

  • @gapplebees9295
    @gapplebees9295 Год назад +1

    Rain of arrows is B? It's the best AoW for bows and does as much damage as a lot of the A tier AoW's. Underrated man.

    • @ethandonnelly1973
      @ethandonnelly1973 Год назад +1

      Its extremely unlikely you'll get one off in a fight which kills it. Great opening move tho

  • @kadirali1456
    @kadirali1456 Год назад

    I personally feel like caryin retaliation should be at least bottom A because pairing a physical attack does not consume any FP end it shuts down a lot of magic bullshit from every other boss

  • @mibbzx1493
    @mibbzx1493 2 месяца назад

    Wave of darkness should be like A - Tier i beat my first playthru with great stars and put magic arnament on it and you can literally spam it to slap most of the bosses in the game 😂 it heal you HP too

  • @doofusrick5998
    @doofusrick5998 5 месяцев назад

    Storm assault and storm stomp are both menacing in pvp its easy to forget how trash they are at actually beating bosses

  • @K-Althur
    @K-Althur Год назад

    I'm doing Ground Slam run w/ Spiked Club and so far it was a great cheese until Atlus right now

  • @evanmcdonald9134
    @evanmcdonald9134 Год назад +3

    The most surprising ash so far has been ordovs’ vortex. It poise breaks all bosses in 2 uses and deals like 4000 each use too. Actually insane

  • @alchemy5750
    @alchemy5750 Год назад

    White shadow's lure is probably the worst... would be alright if you got it in Limgrave against the demi humans but as one of the last ashes you get, it's absolutely useless. What are you gonna use it against in the endgame, the Revenants in the Haligtree or what? You basically win like 5 seconds to heal, instead of actually having a powerful attack skill or a buff.

  • @socrates7722
    @socrates7722 Год назад +1

    If you are struggling to beat melania, put phantom slash on nightriders glaive and go pure str/vig and it literally melts her

  • @modestyblaise4167
    @modestyblaise4167 Год назад

    Troll’s Roar is a C tier? You’ve lost your mind. With the right build it can knock down the big boys (such as Stephen) and follow up (which is free fp) with a slam down which can do a combined damage of around ~2800. I have mine in an occult build with the Brick Hammer (str. B/arc. A scaling) and the roar medial synergises with both the ash and dragon breaths incantations.

  • @xcharlesbronsonx
    @xcharlesbronsonx Год назад +2

    I think spinning strikes is better than spinning slash for spear/halberd weapons?

    • @FayeRantTheStrong
      @FayeRantTheStrong Год назад +1

      Probably, because spinning slash is slower for halberds than for lighter weapons

  • @user-iu1hz9zu2l
    @user-iu1hz9zu2l Год назад +2

    This comment section is full of discord mod elden lords

  • @gelert16
    @gelert16 Год назад

    Is it better to use spells, or ashes of war? Would I be better off putting Ice Spear on my clayman harpoon or using glintstone pebble? I get that both would probably work for most content, but it seems that a lot of ashes even on non-somber weapons can do what spells do but better. Incantations always felt worthwhile even with a Blasphemous Blade, but spells just feel less useful.

  • @lilg-star4408
    @lilg-star4408 Год назад

    Don't get why you think parry is mid in this game, especially with the ashes which make the window easier for medium shield builds. Not everyone wants to be a mage or samurai. parry build can do alot of damage if your timing is good

  • @badacid8685
    @badacid8685 2 месяца назад

    11:49 what is that black thing on the bottom right

  • @indyvin
    @indyvin Год назад

    Too bad that Tiermaker does not allow for naming the symbols. It would add immensely to the value of this.

  • @RaidenKaiser
    @RaidenKaiser Год назад

    Kick isn't that good for shields on my opinion its better used to extend combos with a dagger cuz you can use it to break hyper armor when revenge value triggers on mobs. But yes it's pretty much useless for bosses lol.

  • @majinkhaos8196
    @majinkhaos8196 Год назад +1

    Sacred order is S+ tier

  • @MF_Loomy
    @MF_Loomy 2 месяца назад

    Wild strikes the goat prove me wrong

  • @Airinas96
    @Airinas96 Год назад +2

    Stopped watching when you put Carian Retaliation on B tier...

    • @funguy398
      @funguy398 Год назад +3

      It's almost in the end of the video

    • @flyingbagel7270
      @flyingbagel7270 Год назад

      ikr carian retalitation is pretty bad half the times you want to parry a magic particle it just dosnt work like why cant i parry the gravity orbs from radahn

    • @Airinas96
      @Airinas96 Год назад

      @@flyingbagel7270 It gives you parry frames better than Buckler on Medium shields like the Brass shield and doesn’t consume fp on failed parry… I never even use it to parry any magic…

  • @Typher_
    @Typher_ Месяц назад

    Chilling mist at C tier is just wrong

  • @JTdaGoat2871
    @JTdaGoat2871 Год назад +1

    you actually a suns fan? Or just a coincidence u got the hoody on.

    • @youwy
      @youwy  Год назад

      Suns in 6

  • @zachclark2936
    @zachclark2936 Год назад

    I haven’t watched the video yet, but I hope War Cry is atleast A Tier.

  • @carlosalbertosotodiaz2112
    @carlosalbertosotodiaz2112 Год назад +3

    Has Ben Shapiro started gaming?? 😅😅

  • @blondsucre8179
    @blondsucre8179 Год назад

    Charge forth has no buisness being higher than storm stomp, even in pve storm stomp is better

    • @flyingbagel7270
      @flyingbagel7270 Год назад

      have you ever used charge forth against a small boss or strong enemy in the world. Against things like banished knights, omens, and deulists or anything of similar size it essentially stun locks enemies.

    • @blondsucre8179
      @blondsucre8179 Год назад

      @@flyingbagel7270 storm stomp stuns anything that is stunned by charge forth and it costs way less fp

  • @MrBiosh0ck
    @MrBiosh0ck Год назад

    I swear when thia video started i thought jt was dubbed over. This guy doesn't move his mouth lol

  • @finnpepar9199
    @finnpepar9199 11 месяцев назад

    flaming strike is best aow

  • @jakeluttrell7981
    @jakeluttrell7981 Год назад +1

    Go suns!

  • @adamadam367
    @adamadam367 Год назад

    22:50

  • @Eldenbrosunite
    @Eldenbrosunite Год назад +1

    There is 99 comments so i just had to be the 100th one

  • @notacat.1
    @notacat.1 Год назад

    No hoy-yah? 😢

  • @gnperdue
    @gnperdue Год назад +1

    Too many S-tier scores… need to renormalize and assign more D’s also…

    • @youwy
      @youwy  Год назад +1

      There are too many good ashes lol. I’m not going to be overly critical for no reason. My spell tier lists are more balanced because there aren’t as many good options

  • @jeffreymaxson6216
    @jeffreymaxson6216 Год назад

    If we included unique ashes Taker's Flame would be S+ tier.

  • @steveboyer8572
    @steveboyer8572 Год назад

    Here me out! I'm convinced he's doing these videos while drunk. He talks so fast so I changed the playback speed to .5 and he sounds wasted!! So he just speeds up these videos before posting to hide it! 😂😂 jk I love your videos but it is hilarious to watch in .5 speed!!

  • @BeckDawgGaming
    @BeckDawgGaming Год назад

    Ambatakam

  • @starchild5941
    @starchild5941 Год назад +1

    You sound like Ben Shapiro