Does this 6v6 Plexi actually sound like a Marshall? - Trinity Amps Custom Plexi

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024

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  • @alexo5861
    @alexo5861 3 года назад +12

    The Gold Top Les Paul and that Amp make an amazing sound together.

  • @lauratanner8475
    @lauratanner8475 Год назад +9

    There's kind of two sounds of any given amp. There's the sound of the actual amp and then there's the sound of the amp as heard on recordings of players who used that particular amp. Most of the time it's the latter that we are thinking of when we talk about a certain amp tone. Like Hendrix and his clean Marshall tone or AC earlier Marshall tone or their later tone. Both great btw! But different. Anyway sometimes these smaller amps like these can nail those tones on those records even better than the actual thing. You can crank up a set 6v6 easier than el34 or 6550 and get that crunch. I did a little 5 watt amp with basically a jcm 800 preamp with a bit more flexibility. It wasn't near as loud of course but man I could absolutely nail anything from Kiss, ACDC, pretty much any distorted marshall tone from mid 70s to late 80s it was right there!!

  • @KingGodson316
    @KingGodson316 3 года назад +4

    The Les Paul into that amp is everything

  • @GuitarJawn
    @GuitarJawn 3 года назад +5

    A couple hours ago you had 6.99K subs now you are over 7.05K, the work is paying off.

  • @Teleman76
    @Teleman76 3 года назад +6

    Dr Z proved 6V6 power tubes will yield Plexi tones in their Remedy amp. This sounds great, Michael!

  • @mark5150ty
    @mark5150ty 8 месяцев назад +1

    The GZ34 rectifier tube is the correct rectifier although it will sound different matched with different output tubes. This amplifier has much less Headroom and your solid state rectifier helps get it closer to the original because it's more efficient..

  • @judih.8754
    @judih.8754 3 года назад +3

    Michael your playing is awesome! I love the interplay of the three guitars at the beginning.

  • @ebathurst9216
    @ebathurst9216 3 года назад +3

    Found ur channel after u filled in for Rhett, and I can’t commend u enough on the videos sir. Same energy, music, and production level as Rhett, at a small percentage of viewers compared to him. Although u guys have similar interests, u hardly ever have video topics that intersect which really impresses me. I’ve watched about 5-10 of ur vids in the past few days and I sure am a fan. Love the channel man!🤘🏻

  • @JazzBear
    @JazzBear 2 года назад +3

    Love the tone of that amp!

  • @277southtombob
    @277southtombob 3 года назад +8

    I’ve been wanting to do a 6V6 jtm45/Bassman for a few years now. This one definitely sounds great and just makes me want to build one more. The the biggest difference between this and what I have been thinking about is the tube rectifier, I’ve been using a tube rec for a few years now and have gotten hooked on that sag and natural compression.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      Yeah, I think prefer the tube rec but it’s nice to have the option!

  • @noakwesterberg
    @noakwesterberg 3 года назад +9

    Sounds great, congrats on another successful build! Keep us posted on mods that you may do!

  • @dldavidmusic
    @dldavidmusic 3 года назад +4

    Wow Michael - you've done it again - fantastic tune at the beginning! I love the creativity and originality you put into this - ANND the amp sounds great too. 😂

  • @ZelosPhotizo
    @ZelosPhotizo 3 года назад +3

    Man I’m becoming more and more interested in trying an amp build myself, thanks.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      I’ve had a blast building and using the amps. Check out 5e3 build video as well if you haven’t seen it!

    • @searing7549
      @searing7549 3 года назад +1

      Absolutely loved building the Trinity Amps ODS. It sounds incredible as well!

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 3 года назад +4

    YES it sounds like a Marshall, and a damn good one with your playing MWW!
    I've been watching guitar channels for many years (decades), and this channel strikes me as one of the best yet (fwiw imho). Kudos and props to Rhett Shull for turning us on to this channel yesterday, he has self-confidence to support the "competition", although you have different styles. I'm a new fan here in Portland, although hopefully not for much longer (staying here I mean). Michael is the newest star on the internet guitar scene, deserving (destined?) to have millions of subscribers. When I learned Michael is a multi-instrumentalist, who began with pedal steel, and watched a few more videos, I was hooked, and in love...in a brotherly musical way. Probably see me lurking here in the future Michael - I much appreciate your content and talents. Cheers!!

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      Thanks, I really appreciate the kind words! Glad you’re here!

    • @afarrar3
      @afarrar3 2 года назад

      @@MichaelWWestbrook Pedal steel?? if thats true id love to see content incorporating that! ive been trying to figure out how to get into PSG for the last year, its a seemingly very daunting instrument, and definitely a smaller world than the world of the typical 6 string guitar. Such a haunting sound!

  • @scotthowe1972
    @scotthowe1972 3 года назад +9

    I subbed your channel after watching your vid on filling in for Rhett, glad i did. I love the fact that you build amps in your quest for chasing tone, I'm a nerd for that kind of stuff. Looking forward to future video's and i think you may just have a better slide tone...😂😂

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the sub and glad you enjoy the content!

  • @curtisprice9806
    @curtisprice9806 6 дней назад +1

    SOUNDS SUPER GOLDEN!!! JUST LIKE A PLEXI OR BLACKFACE FENDER DELUXE!!! WHICH, I MEAN IS SUPER RICH TONE!!!

  • @foxyjmusic
    @foxyjmusic 3 года назад +3

    I see that Sugar Guitar! Badass

  • @mickkraviz
    @mickkraviz 3 года назад +5

    Awesome video, amp sounds great! Btw, these type of videos really seem professional. :D

  • @sonikku997
    @sonikku997 3 месяца назад +3

    I mean... It sounds great.

  • @RalphMercuroMusic
    @RalphMercuroMusic 3 года назад +4

    I have a Suhr PT15 which is very much a Marshall with a 15 watt 6V6 power section. Compared to an older 1959 JCM800 I have the Suhr is a bit looser but everything else is there. Crank that little 15 watt amp and the dynamics and response of an old cranked Marshall are in it. I'd love to compare it to a Suhr SL68 Plexi clone...

  • @davidwolfe9391
    @davidwolfe9391 2 года назад +2

    Amp sounds great... I've not seen the schematic on the trinity, but from what I am seeing and hearing in your video, it's more a 6v6 version of a 1974 - 18 watt... I have sold and built what they call a TMB which is pretty much what I think I am seeing in your video... If that's the case it is definitly NOT the same preamp circuit as a 4 hole Plexi 1959 Superlead or the later 1987 JMP - 4 input lead amps... The gain structure and tone stack are completely voiced different... the TMB 1974 based amps are really a thing all their own, not saying that's bad or good, it's just not the same preamp... The first thing that gives it away is there's no "gain" knob on 1959 or 1987 circuits... And plexi amps always have adjustable presence... I am suprised Trinity markets that amp as a plexi...

  • @billedwards2657
    @billedwards2657 3 года назад +7

    Sounds alright to me. Power tubes in-family don’t have that much of an impact other than headroom. Preamp kind of dominates. Most Marshall’s benefit from jumping channels, but depending on how they input stages are assigned to triode halves that may not work for you.

  • @lvrocker6281
    @lvrocker6281 2 года назад +2

    The 1974 18 watters, the JTM45's, etc., were tube rectified so when you said you're used to Plexi's being faster and punchy, that's interesting to me because in my experience the character (and allure) of those classic amps is having that natural tube rectified compression and sag, the opposite of punchy and fast to me, anyway, just an observation.
    Keep up the great videos btw, one of these days I'd like to build a 5E3 like that one from Trinity. I built a 52FA a few years ago, super simple circuit and a lot of fun.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I’m more so talking about the 50/100 watt Plexi’s. They are more stiff and punchy than the vintage JTM45 I’ve played. Glad you are enjoying the videos!

  • @riders.oregon4474
    @riders.oregon4474 6 месяцев назад

    6v6 is a great tube. Good Headphones are the way to listen to your videos.

  • @JagStar
    @JagStar 3 года назад +2

    I'm in the same boat as you, never owned a Plexi but have played a few in the studio over the years. I think your Trinity Plexi definitely has the Plexi flavour. Like you say, it might not be an exact match, but it's in the Marshall wheelhouse for sure. I like what the 6V6 does for the Marshall style tone. A bit less mid forward and rounder bottom end. I also like how it softens the highs a bit. The real Plexis can get a bit harsh. I also think the SS rectifier is a good choice. Tube rectifiers don't sound right to me in a Marshall style amp. I like the tighter tone.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад +2

      Agreed on the 6v6’s in the Plexi. I think does a very musical thing in the highs. It almost sweetens the chime in a way.

  • @markhendrixson7670
    @markhendrixson7670 6 месяцев назад

    Sounds like a winner to me. 👍👍

  • @liv2praz
    @liv2praz 3 года назад +1

    that sounds killer, dude. really good!

  • @KleyDeJong
    @KleyDeJong 3 года назад +1

    Great video Michael. I believe there is some differences in tubes, but circuit is king!

  • @geraldponce8336
    @geraldponce8336 Год назад

    Sounds really tight and quiet. Hardly any 60 cycle hum. Great job. Yes it is an unusual marriage. Am like hearing Marshall and fender. Sounds good.

  • @wabwabb8798
    @wabwabb8798 3 года назад +1

    Wow, sound really great

  • @ATreeForFive
    @ATreeForFive 3 года назад +2

    Would love that exact same amp but in a 2x10 configuration (creamback and green back)

  • @amalgamaudioLV
    @amalgamaudioLV Год назад +4

    To me it doesn't sound like any other Marshall i've heard, but it sounds fantastic in its own right. Nothing to shy away from a 18w Marshall or a JMP50.

  • @druwk
    @druwk 3 года назад +2

    Like the solid state rectifier better. Dig the clean, and near clean sounds a lot! Almost Vox’y? Les Paul in channel two IS the classic rock thing. So much great music recorded with this Tone, hard not to smile 😊
    BTW Looks fantastic

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      Yeah, it has sparkly thing for sure. Can’t not love the Les Paul into this thing 🤘🏼

  • @joaoaugustofreire6701
    @joaoaugustofreire6701 3 года назад +2

    Man, it sounds absolutely INCREDIBLE!! What is your signal chain?

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад +2

      For the solo examples Shure Sm57/Royer 121 into Seventh Circle Audio N72 pres (Neve clones) > Focusrite Clarett 8preX. No Eq, compression, verb except a high pass at 60 on both mics.

    • @joaoaugustofreire6701
      @joaoaugustofreire6701 3 года назад

      @@MichaelWWestbrook Thank you!!

  • @rdfindley56
    @rdfindley56 Год назад +1

    Hey Michael, I'm a little late to the party but you.did a killer job on the build! Curious, was the cabinet sourced from Trinity too? It looks amazing. I have one of their OSD kits coming that I'm really looking forward to building.

  • @MrGibsn1960
    @MrGibsn1960 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds better than the Germino Masonette I had a few years back. Brighter and punchier.

  • @anthonybennici8748
    @anthonybennici8748 3 года назад +2

    Are you familiar with the Carr Mercury V? It sounds kind of similar in concept to your build. I got to demo one in a shop and really enjoyed playing through it! Your Trinity sounds great, particularly paired with the Les Paul!

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      Haven’t played that one but I’ve heard great things about the Carr stuff!

    • @rockcrusade
      @rockcrusade 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, I have the Mercury V, it’s the best amp I’ve ever played or recorded.

  • @Skman22
    @Skman22 3 года назад +2

    Interesting that you used a rectifier tube in this build, I had thought that Plexis traditionally used diode rectification.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      The earliest ones used tube but generally you are correct. Solid state rec is most typically used

  • @yaniv-nos-tubes
    @yaniv-nos-tubes Год назад +1

    if you like a darker tone than a vintage mullard i63 at v1 would do you good.

  • @vautrain
    @vautrain 2 года назад

    I think it sounds like something in between a JTM and a Superlead. Sounds great! Although I prefer closed back cabinets with Marshall amps.

  • @hungariantankman4607
    @hungariantankman4607 Год назад +1

    Hey man, very cool video.

  • @irishRocker1
    @irishRocker1 2 года назад +3

    I built an amp with a single ended 6V6 power stage and a 1959 preamp. I can't imagine how loud an 18watt, a 50watt, or a 100watt is cos even at 5watt it feels way too loud. I can cut the volume with an attenuator but tried it one time fully dimed with no attenuator and my gf said it felt like a rock concert. I had a VM2466 and could get great tones at low mastervolume levels but unfortunately this one needs to be cranked and I dont feel like it gets the "1959" plexi sound. I think I need to make some tweaks. I tried cascading the input stages instead of parallel for more gain but the eq is way off. it doesnt sound like a full balanced sound. Need to check I cascaded in the right order or something. It doesn't have a lot of body but has fizz. I had to remove a bright cap. As it is single ended, it does not have a phase inverter, so that could be part of the problem too. Phase inverter would contribute some breakup which I am not getting but I feel like gain is a secondary issue, the main issue is the eq is all wrong. It has a hammond 125E output transformer as far as I remember but I don't think that should be the problem. It might not be the best output transformer but I think it would be more subtle symptoms than what I hear.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  2 года назад

      What speaker are you running? Changing it will make a big difference as well. Sometimes even more than a “mod”

    • @jameseberhard7457
      @jameseberhard7457 2 года назад

      The phase inverter has a huge effect on that circuit I feel. I built a single ended 2204 preamp with a el84 power and it's in the right ballpark as my old 800 at low volumes and has enough gain on tap for a thin lizzy vibe. Plus it's much more practical for home use. Good luck with yours man

  • @joelsmith4816
    @joelsmith4816 Год назад

    Pretty plexi.

  • @SeemoreDunkan
    @SeemoreDunkan 4 месяца назад

    Hey great video! Can u put EL84's in that JTM45? I think it might make it sound more British

  • @chokkan7
    @chokkan7 3 года назад +2

    Check out Rob Rob's site to make a 6V6 Soldano-type amp, or for other great tips in your quest for tone.
    You mentioned the 18W Marshall's circuit; I wouldn't be surprised if your amp wouldn't benefit (in terms of grind) if you were to substitute that amp's PI circuit for what you're currently using. You'd probably lose some nuance (it might be in OD by the time the volume is on 3)...just a thought.
    I have a '59 tweed Deluxe that I rescued decades ago, and despite the simple circuit, it roars like a beast, so there's no reason it can't be done in another type of amp...

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      I used Rob Rob’s site for my 5e3 a ton! So much great info. Haven’t thought about it for this one. I’ll check it out

  • @oxygen69able
    @oxygen69able Год назад

    Might sound better with the early fender tone stack and el84's. I shall see.

  • @Earlvis
    @Earlvis 2 года назад

    You may try a 5U4 rectifier or if you really want some sag, a 5Y3. The 5AR4 is almost as punchy as a bridge rectifier.

  • @yaniv-nos-tubes
    @yaniv-nos-tubes Год назад

    will sound a lot better with mullard nos tubes(i61,i63) in the preamp section and if you want to really go crazy then some brimar 6v6 gt's(or rca) .i have the 1974x+cx cab.

  • @timburle4980
    @timburle4980 3 года назад +1

    Les Paul and Marshall 👍👍

  • @stratjed
    @stratjed 3 года назад +1

    Michael . new to your channel . So far cool any sign of politics or Tubescreamer hate and I'm gone ! lol . But seriously my suggestion is a discussion of rig levels . I call it Rig A Rig B etc. etc. What is your Game plan ?.Also I don't bring my prized possessions were I gotta keep my eye on em all night( like a dive bar ) . YOU ?

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      I used to have a big board and small board but since quarantine I’ve put it all on one board. Usually I’m just taking whatever suits the gig the best. No sacred gear for me currently… if somethings not getting used it usually gets sold unfortunately.

  • @oxygen69able
    @oxygen69able Год назад

    Mucho bueno.

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 3 года назад +1

    I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly the celestions that have the "celestion international" printing on them are the Chinese made models. Idk if that matters, but just saying for correctness sake. Not a bad sounding amp.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      Yeah, I could be wrong but it says made in the UK on the side. Still experimenting with speakers. Might end up with a Creamback… I’m always changing out speakers

    • @middle_pickup
      @middle_pickup 3 года назад

      @@MichaelWWestbrook I dig those creambacks. They sound awesome with distortion.

  • @islander4986
    @islander4986 Год назад +1

    Trinity's Custom Plexi Kit link isn't current. I guess the kit's been discontinued?

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  Год назад +1

      Thanks for letting me know. I think they’ve had a hard time keeping parts in stock but are looking to relaunch something this year

  • @andreaskoch792
    @andreaskoch792 3 года назад +1

    F* the Plexi Nerds - it sounds super cool. I have a 100W Plexi SLP Built year '67 and where to play that. Also in the Studio it is so loud and than recorded :-(. I like the Amp but it has just one sound. It is deffinitely not a pedal friendly (beside boost pedals, and some fuzzes) head and in my world has just this one sound. I love my JTM45 much more. The same as you mention much more sound possibilities in a more watt friendly package....

  • @6xcchamber971
    @6xcchamber971 Год назад

    what year is the Les Paul?

  • @michaeltaylors2456
    @michaeltaylors2456 2 года назад +2

    Power tube sound “differences” are the most over hyped and oversold aspect of a tube amp.

  • @mikejamieson419
    @mikejamieson419 2 года назад +1

    I have a marshall plexi but it is pcb. Is it still good?

  • @leftymike5625
    @leftymike5625 3 года назад +1

    Do you use a thumb pick in this vid? I find it very interesting how you hold the pick.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад +1

      No, I have a hitchhiker’s thumb. 😂 It bends way back naturally

  • @christopher-miles
    @christopher-miles 3 года назад +1

    kt88? anyone?

  • @jeale778
    @jeale778 3 года назад

    Have you Checked out the powercab PC212+ with Helix??

  • @shawnjoe9187
    @shawnjoe9187 2 года назад

    Can you put kt66's in this?

  • @roymontero4066
    @roymontero4066 3 года назад +2

    What pickups you have on the black tele?

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад +1

      Fralin Blues Specials (basically their regular pickups 5% overwound)

    • @roymontero4066
      @roymontero4066 3 года назад +1

      @@MichaelWWestbrook thanks for sharing! Big fan of the channel bro. Greetings from Toronto 🇨🇦

  • @youknoweverything7643
    @youknoweverything7643 2 года назад

    Sounds good but not as good as my marshall vintage modern full 100 watt stack that I got as a ass present back in 05 or 06 when they came out and was still sold new and my parents paid 750 dollars for it brand new and thanks m and dad what a great investment it has gone up in value alot and crazzy high especially with matching twin cabs that was made just for the vintage modern head. Crazzy thing is I can't find replacement speakers anywhere for this amp. They was special made just for the two 4x12 cabs. I have looked and looked and called marshall and they said if I ever need replacement speakers that their custom shop can hand build them for me any time but is gonna cost me 500 plus per speaker lol so I only play it at special gigs where I need the loud sound of chest thumping classic rock tone every where else I use Modeling software with pedel.board to switch between pedals on my digital pedal board on the software or I use a modeling p like my 100 watt boss katana

  • @axeslinger013
    @axeslinger013 2 года назад +1

    Where did you get your SS rectifier device ?

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  2 года назад

      I bought it on Reverb. It’s a Yellow Jackets solid state rec.

    • @axeslinger013
      @axeslinger013 2 года назад

      @@MichaelWWestbrook Thank You !!

  • @Andygee302
    @Andygee302 Год назад

    Doesn’t appear Trinity has these available any longer

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  Год назад

      Yes, I think they've had supply chain issues and are slowly releasing kits as parts become available.

    • @Andygee302
      @Andygee302 Год назад +1

      @@MichaelWWestbrook is there a waiting list?

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  Год назад

      Not completely sure, I’d email the company!

    • @Andygee302
      @Andygee302 Год назад

      The link goes nowhere

  • @RickHill-go9yo
    @RickHill-go9yo 10 месяцев назад

    The real plexi had a GZ34 rectifier. The real plexi also used KT66 or 5881 tubes not EL34's !!

  • @owlytimbre9103
    @owlytimbre9103 3 года назад +1

    Sounds like my supro.

    • @MichaelWWestbrook
      @MichaelWWestbrook  3 года назад

      Cool, which one do you have? I really want to try the Black Magik

    • @owlytimbre9103
      @owlytimbre9103 3 года назад +1

      @@MichaelWWestbrook Hi. Yeah, I have had the black magik and super for over a year now. I think zep 1 is programed into my DNA along with the supro.🤟

  • @soundthealarm1622
    @soundthealarm1622 3 года назад +1

    Sounds like a plexi to me.

  • @francescominicucci3669
    @francescominicucci3669 2 года назад

    Sounds good. But is a tweed style

  • @alicendavid
    @alicendavid Год назад

    "Attackee-thing"......... WTF ???????????????????????

  • @bustertrocine9124
    @bustertrocine9124 2 года назад

    No way does not sound like anything !!

  • @kennyh5083
    @kennyh5083 Год назад

    Too much babbling!