Duke The Dumpster on Bret Hart
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2018
- Duke The Dumpster on Bret Hart
Former WWE Superstar Duke "The Dumpster" Droese discusses some of his dealings with "WWE Hall of Famer" Bret "The Hitman" Hart who gave Droese advice at certain times when the two were working in WWE together and Bret was Champion!
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3:02 Dead on Bret Impression
lmao
That doesn't work for me, brother.
His Vince McMahon impression was good too.
@@magikstm why doesn't it work for bret and the dumpster and steve Austin does he think it is does also did you get the refund or the receipt for the indigenous pochinki answer aka
When we met Bret in 96, my brother asked who his best friend was in the locker room. He said Duke. I doubt he’d lie randomly to a 10 year old. I’d think Bret must have had some sincerity in helping him out.
Sounds like The Hitman tried to get him out of the jobber mentality
Seems that way to me too. I'm under the impression that Brett wanted for him to stand his ground so that he wouldn't get pushed around by the office the way he allowed them to push him.
Man you hit the nail right on the head.
I grew up watching Duke job constantly. I loved him for what he did and I still remember him to this day. I work as a cook in a shitty restaurant making minimum wage, no one will remember me. This dude got to be on TV wrestling against and putting over guys who would eventually become legends. He has nothing to be ashamed of, and I admire and still remember all the great jobbers in WWE history. He is one of them.
Randy Savage found it hilarious. And he has been dead for nine years.
Literally blaming Bret for his problems after he asked Bret for advice and took it. Smh
Well he was drugged up so you can't really blame Duke
@@markmullins5822 yeah Bret injected him with the drugs
Bret was ribbing him
@@James-xx4kb
Yeah, it’s one thing for the WWF or IC champ to refuse to job…quite another for a lower card guy to do the same thing
Bret Hart diehards are definitely the softest fans the wrestling world has to offer lmao Y’all stay whining in the comments anytime his name is brought up, without praise immediately following
Bret was right. And strangely enough, Austin took the same advice years later. You need to potect your career.
Yep. It's a contract and if it's not an agreement, then no deal.
Bret was more or less right, but you can lead a horse to water that don't mean he's gonna drink.
You mean "You can lead a Horse to water but you can't make them drink it properly"
I think Bret was genuinely trying to help but Duke the Dumpster droese was not going to get special treatment from Vince McMahon
Bret led Duke to water, but Duke decided to drink from a Dumpster instead...Dukes fault😆
@@tomhood7343 Yeah, Bret is probably not seeing the full picture here. That not everyone is going to get the same treatment as him. Vince sees Bret as something profitable, so that's why he is pretty high on the totem pole at the time. While Duke on the other hand, Vince doesn't really have much impression towards him. He just basically sees him as a pawn. Nothing more.
@@RainbowRoadCrashTest Lol, exactly what I was thinking, every time Drose tells it, Brets like, "I would refuse" obviously thinking about shit the way HE would do it lol. Drose shoulda known better than to call Vince's home after the last time Vince dogged him tho
Doesn't sound like a trick it sounds like Bret was literally just telling him what HE would do.
One thing Bruce Prichard said about Duke, is while he thought positively about him, he was too much of a nice guy for the business.
These Duke shoots are awesome Hannibal. I met him in 94 around back at the mid Hudson civic center in Poughkeepsie NY, I believe it was 1994. He was the nicest wrestler there for sure. I met Shawn Michaels that night too, LOL, that was interesting. Shawn got his bag stuck in the door and instead of simply moving the bag away for the door, he pulled as hard as he could slamming the door behind him. He was definitely hung over on something. He did say hello to me though.
The advice was sound: Stand up for yourself and have a plan/vision of how to get to where you want to be. Bret Hart had a brilliant career doing just that so it was sincere advice.
Sounds like the problem was in the execution. Dumpster admits to being "out there" so who knows how he was sounding? He also admits he had Prichard thinking he was off his nut so why wouldn't Vince feel the same?
gmscurto yeah this story is kinda fucked. As i listen i am thinking “dude this is sound advice you just screwed up”
Bret was ribbing him plain and simple lol
Sounds like a bitter dude, don't even remember this guy...
So many shoot interviews on RUclips feature guys talking about how you had to show initiative when dealing with Vince. Sounds like Bret was offering actual genuine advice.
Gary McKenna exactly what I was thinking. Just heard Jericho on his podcast (and others in the past) talk about going to Vince and standing up for themselves. Granted it’s much easier for Jericho to go than the dumpster!! But they also say it’s the way you do it... don’t just go to Vince and say you won’t do it... go to him and offer something better! As to Bret.... well the first time it worked out so the advice was good... the other times... well the advice sounded good then too but dumpster (by his own admission) was too blitzed out of his head to know what he was doing! Lol. Wouldn’t matter what advice he was given - he wouldn’t have done it well....
Nothing but fond memories of this guy. Decent worker.
Bret's advice to him was golden - Duke was simply to messed up at the time and had no bargaining power to leverage anything positive for himself. He needs to take responsibility for the mistakes he made during his career.
So how was Bret’s advice to him “golden” considering Duke had no bargaining position and was drugged up? If anything Bret should’ve told him to lay low and make the most of what was given to him.
“He had no leverage or power, but Bret’s advice to refuse to put someone over was golden” 🥴 So goofy. Duke wrestled for a couple years, & went on to have a great career in teaching. He doesn’t need to take responsibility for anything from his wrestling days….seems to be doing just fine.
Get your lips of brets cock and realise his advice was dreadful
Hannibal! This was the most entertaining 12 minutes I've seen! Awesome man!
There's a lot of stories about Vince McMahon but the only 2 concrete things that can be taken as fact when talking about Vince are "God damn" and "Pal"
Duke making a mountain out of a dumpster hill
BRET HART
THE BEST THERE IS
THE BEST THERE WAS
& THE BEST THERE EVER WELL BE
PERIOD
👍 👍 👍 👊
Bret’s advice was spot on. He was teaching him how to not take shit, to man up, to stop being buried at every turn, to push back against the Kliq, to show balls and talk to Vince.
God dam...haven't watched this in a few months. This is my favorite shoot clip ever. Funny shit. Respect to the Dumpster!!
Brett’s advice probably wasn’t the best. I think he gave it with the best of intentions, but totally didn’t realise he had no power backstage. Bret was a main eventer and triple D was totally on thin ice, especially with that gimmick. He was easily disposable.
Just my opinion of course
The issue isn't Bret's advice.... The issue is how messed up you were at the time. He probably miss understood.🙄
I always wondered what happened to Duke- he just disappeared when the Monday Night Wars came around
Looking back on things.
I love the fact that Duke can laugh about his own stupidity back then.
Like Hannibal said.
You did not learn after the 1st time you called Vince.
Good stuff
10:14 Aldo Montoya was probably the 3rd guy.😂😂😂
Its really sad he thinks Bret was working against him when Bret had no reason to do this. He was probably really trying to help him
The Harts were known for those types of ribs
So this jobber wouldn't job to Stunning Steve Austin??
Rated R cny well he was a nobody back then as the Ringmaster but in hindsight, yeah bad decision lol
Hannibal can you get an interview with Brett Hart ?
Love your chanel dude ! Wrestling glory days !!
5:45 Wrestlers in the Hogan Era when told they had to do a job: That's fine unless you PAY ME
Wrestlers in The New Generation era when told they had to do a job: that's fine unless you let me get some kind of revenge in the end
Unless doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. Basically you're saying the Golden Era wrestlers didn't want to be paid for doing the Job.
Dude, his bret hart voice was SPOT ON!
Wait until you hear his Davey Boy Smith Impression!
The thing about giving someone advice is there is no guarantee to it. Bret telling Duke what he would do.
I remember this man and he had some good matches. His matches with Trip h and mankind
Duke does not seem like the brightest guy. Bret was giving him sound advice he just didn't have a clue on how to execute it. I remember Duke the dumpster growing up he wasn't a bad talent he just couldn't get over, the fans weren't behind him he should have turned into a heel.
Lol, so he debuted as a face? With a dumpster gimmick? What in the hell???
Then tell us oh wise one, how can a jobber execute advice of I'd refuse properly?
I loved Duke back in the day
If people remember Vince wanted Bret to be a cowboy and he was like F U
Neil Smith Bret was a cowboy. He was Cowboy Bret Hart before they put him with Neidhart
If you wanted a push and a program who do you go to....VInce “Mac”Mahon
The Jerk There’s pictures of him as Cowboy Bret in hit WWE produced Hitman DVd
Started wrestling as cowboy bret hart remember watching him on world of sport, so he was never doing that again lol..
He wrestled like a handful of times as a cowboy and was like F this ship me back to Canada and they were like we are gonna put you with the Anvil and be the Hart Foundation and put you in pink tights and he jumped on it
When it comes to ribbing a jobber, Bret is the best there is, best there was or ever will be.
Lmao.
Good to here some of the other dudes out the limelight have a say
ShellyLenay
Mike has been open and told his entire story on his Facebook from start until now. If you just watch a short blurb on a video clip, you have missed the entire story then you read comments here that sound clueless.
If you aren’t old enough to remember or have been there, the crowd popped loudly for him. I appreciate Mike taking the time to share his truth.
That isn’t how he got signed. Duke already had a solid gimmick in the indies. He hunted down Vince himself and gave him a tryout tape which is great. As I said, if you don’t know the story your words make no sense. The 90’s were a magical time in wrestling where we had actual characters to enjoy and not what we have to watch today.
Again, you are the one creating a story without knowing the details. You just make up stuff and pass it as fact. Aren’t you a big boy sitting behind your keyboard acting as if you know the details. Typically, people research what they speak of otherwise you just look ignorant. Go read!
Yes, I know when negative people can not make a point, you have to go after me being female and alude to something.
Again, you don’t even have the details accurate one bit. Not one bit. You need to pretend you know more than all so be it.
I don’t like to spend my time with people who find joy trying to belittle others.
Go and read the actual story so you actually know and then find out what an inspirational this story of a persons life actually has.
I’ll admit, as a 9-10 year old kid I liked Duke. He came across a cool guy, a good everyman.
Duke is the most nicest wrestler I had ever met
Happy birthday Duke.
Duke the Dumpster was great, I always rooted for him as a kid. Loved the Godwins too. Why is everybody fronting on being fans of the cartoony era like these guys weren't getting huge pops from the crowd at the time????
duke tells great stories!
I'm pretty sure i liked Duke. But where is the Nailz interview?
He kind of resembles Konnan in his face.
I loved this guys work. You made sure you forgot about the stupid gimmick while he was in the ring.
I think you would have fit in better in mid 97, and throughout the Attitude Era.
I think what happened here is Certain wrestlers like Bret were so used to going up to Vince that maybe he thought anybody could go up to Vince and to be honest with you yes. Vince should have been open to talk to any of his
Talent and hear their ideas. I never thought Duke the dumpster droese was a great talent but the story is very interesting
This doesn’t sound like Bret pulling a rib or winding him up - the first suggestion WORKED. Lol. The third is what people like Jericho, Austin, Cornett and others have said on interviews - take initiate... talk to people, including Vince. Having said that, they say to do it right: don’t just refuse to do it, give Vince better suggestions. Sounds exactly like what Bret was suggesting in the third instance. Since Dumpster was blitzed out of his mind (by own repeated admission) , I’m sure he didn’t execute it well - but the advice wasn’t bad. Granted, maybe Bret should have said “you’re too messed up to say anything, so just shut up and do your job”.... poor dumpster would have found that as hurtful as Vince saying it.... I think duke is sincere.... and a nice guy.... just... confused.
Bruce didn't want Duke to go Nailz on him...
How about be grateful that the World Champ would take the time to help you out and even share a ride with you. Duke was a glorified jobber in the 90's, along with most wrestlers that were stuck with "Job Profession" gimmicks. People should take accountability for their own actions more instead of finding someone to blame for their problems.
Love this inter view
I don't know any of the people well enough but from what I researched when Bret was with the WWF he was kinda in love with the WWF being his father sold his business to them and he put years into it, my point is while he may have suspected he had rose tinted glasses about Vince, he may have known Vince was a calculating bastard, but I doubt he new Vince was a heartless cold calculating bastard that would use a wrestlers death if he thought it'd make him more money, but hay that's how he got where he is good on him, still his advice was tainted not bad.
These "new guys" were established journeymen from other companies .Sounded like Vince had a lot of trust in him by having him give them their first matches. Isn't this considered a envious position for jobbers?
He should have gone postal on everyone.
Bret doing a Owen rib.
The Dude is hilarious. I liked him when I was a kid. I didn't know he wrestled T.L. Hopper. Now that is a gimmick battle worth seeing. The plumber vs The garbage man. Let's go! 💪😎
Vince didn't wanna get choked again.
You have to think for yourself
C'mon Duke... i still remember the early 90's when you first came on the scene. The WWF promos were aired and am talking in India, where the satellite TV would hardly show much wrestling. WWF projected you well and i felt you were the next big thing. But the matches you had against Lawler and a few others were so lacklustre. Disapointed then and now after hearing this interview. Cmon man, blaming Bret sucks. He was a champ man and i still love him for all those memories. Stay blessed Duke..
Didn't know Bret Hart was such a good ribber.
His brother Owen was the king of Ribs.
And The King of Harts
Bret is such a Mark for Bret I'm suprised he isn't a Mark for his ability to rib
"That sounded like a good idea for some reason."
The problem with Duke is that he has/had no initiative and, to be frank, was too stupid to use the advice given to him effectively.
It's not Bret or anyone else's job to lay out every single detail of what someone should do in a situation like Duke's. Bret wasn't wrong in the advice he gave. Duke should have not only simply done what was suggested but also provide compelling reasons for WHY his decisions to refuse to job were valid. When speaking with Vince, he should have offered at least two well thought out pitches for his character to go in so that Vince could have at least entertained the idea of pushing Duke's character in a different direction.
Quite frankly, Duke, and many other of the talent past and present don't quite grasp what pro wrestling is. It's a business. Can you put butts in the seats? In other words, can you draw? That's what is important. It's not about "winning" or "losing". The "winner" of a match can't exist without someone who will "lose". Everyone plays an important role. Duke didn't and still doesn't understand that.
Duke was upset that he wasn't being used on TV much at one point. Well, instead of looking at others, he should have been looking at himself, his gimmick, his character, and what the problem was. He should have realized that he wasn't drawing. That's the only reason he wouldn't be used. If you can draw, you better believe the promoter will want to use you as much as possible because that makes MONEY.
But here's the thing: If Duke was smart enough to understand the pro wrestling business, he wouldn't have had a problem, he would have been a draw and would have been on TV a lot more. He wouldn't have ever had to gone to another person like Bret for advice. It also doesn't help that he was not quite with it often due to the painkillers he was using frequently at the time.
So it's not the fault of Bret or anyone else for Duke's problems. It's Duke's fault.
i guess when bret hart said i wouldnt do it i would refuse... he was referring to the situation he was in when he walked out on dino bravo after breaking his sternum. though nowhere it feels he stirred him.
The term I will now use, "fuck finish".
He was at my school lol
Seems like Bret was ribbing him
Does a pretty good Fatu as well.
I think Bret was giving great advice to someone who couldn't keep himself clean.
Bret didn't tell you to do it, he just said HE wouldn't do it.
You should take responsibility for your own actions Duke
Maybe Bret WAS messing with him, but here's another possibility:
Bret was in a far, far better position then him when it came to clout in WWF. From Bret's POV, that's what HE would have done. Maybe he couldn't conceive things from Duke Droese's POV as, essentially, a jobber. Bret was probably going by what he would do, not recognizing that Droese was in a far lower bargaining position.
I personally can't believe that Bret would deliberately want to f*ck with the guy's wrestling career. It doesn't seem like Bret to me.
Oh please I wanna hear what Duke The Dumpstet Droese has to say about EVERYthing
.....................
Duke should’ve been his own man and not took advice from anyone, especially Bret. Love Bret, but he is the champ. He has more leverage than Duke.
this guy should of been WWE Champion with a longer reign that Hogan
Seems to me Bret had dukes best interest at heart, and trying to get him to give HIMSELF his push. I liked Duke back in the day he worked well and as far as I know never injured no one and was professional when it came to jobbing for someone. But there’s only so many times that you can do that. But saying that I didn’t once hear him knock Bret he just says Bret gave him advice and he took it
Well obviously when your just breaking in you dont call vince at his home. Duh
A lot of people start with bad gimmicks but then get something better later. I think he should’ve stuck to Bret’s advice but no matter now. It is what it is
I am dying laughing!!
Duke the Dumpster Fire.
This bloke sounds like the sort who'll always blame someone else for how it goes down.
HAHA that explains why everytime as soon this dude would yell "IT'S TIME TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH", he'd turn around and eat somebody else's finisher. 100% pure jobber.
Hahahaha.
Duke was more than a jobber
Yeah, he was a Glorified Jobber
What the hell??? Bret basically set up Duke to make the best match ever.... Wm 13
I think Bret saying “I would refuse” doesn’t necessarily mean he was telling Duke he should refuse......this sounds like Bret was using a drugged out Duke “The Dumpster” to rib Vince. Which is absolutely hilarious.
Bashcrash Wiley So then he was a shit stirrer and he played with peoples careers like he constantly berates the kliq for doing
StuUngar Not really. When the top guy in the company says “I would call Vince and refuse” it doesn’t necessarily mean an enhancement talent with a garbage man gimmick should literally call Vince and refuse to do a job...
Though Bret and Austin ended up massively respecting each other- I can buy that Bret would initially feel threatened by Steve Austin. Bret had more technical ability, but Austin could likewise pull a solid match out of anyone.
Bashcrash Wiley Yet, he’s purposely giving him bad advice and not caring whether Duke took his advice....particularly after Bret invited Drose to ride with him and was acting if as he was the veteran who was trying to help out the new guy. How was Duke supposed to know that wasn’t how things worked. For all Drose knew, Bret elevated himself by putting his foot down.
My point is, for years Ive heard Bret pat himself on the back and say that he was the leader backstage who helped all the young guys while the kliq were the ones who played games with peoples’ careers. Meanwhile Ive not heard one wrestler refer to Bret as the locker room leader. Every wrestler, even the kliq guys, have said that Undertaker was the backstage leader, and there’s stories from Duke to Sid to Vader to Bundy to Del Wilkes to Rougeau that say that Bret was often difficult to work with and that he wasn’t the beloved guy backstage that he always proclaims.
Bret is a unique guy. He’s one of the few people that is quick to pat himself on the back. Flair is really the only other guy I can think of who does it on a regular basis. People that are good usually don’t have to constantly announce it, because others will do it for them. Ive never once heard HBK, Undertaker, Savage, or Steamboat brag that they were the greatest. Constantly bragging on oneself typically rubs people the wrong way, but Bret’s fans are an odd bunch. They eat everything he says up with a golden spoon. They think everything he says is the gospel truth and they hang on to everything he does as if he was a god. Ive met very, very few objective Bret Hart fans.
PURE speculation on what Bret's intentions were. I get it's your opinion, but you have no way of knowing what Bret's intentions were, what he exactly said, or the tone he said it in. Pure Speculation.
Sounds like Bret was trying to help him out to me. He says he was winding him up but then said he was messed up all the time on drugs and booze.
hard to reconcile...the advice from bret not to do jobs that don't enhance you at times is spot on but it seems like he didn't recognize your position in the company and that refusing jobs was going to be a death nail. so was he trying to wind you up? doesn't sound like bret's m.o. but he was also smart enough to know when guys can refuse jobs
"I started riding with Bret" ... and nothing changed for Duke.
Seems odd Bret would tell him not to job to Austin since Bret asked to be married to Austin shortly after he got there.
Dumpster was pushed a little initially. He was physically good too. Then they made him into a nobody
Seems like a really easy guy to work with.. 😳
Everytime I think of Duke the dumpster droese, all I remember is the beatdown he got with that trash can at the hands of Jerry the king lawler, on lawlers court.
Seems like a nice guy, the crowd liked him but his ring and mic work were generic as hell. He just wasn't going to get a top spot no matter what. However, if he had been able to stick with it for a few more years, he could have had his heel run and made a nice pay day.
He was fairly popular at one point. He had a decent feud with HHH. I don't remember where I heard it, but I read that he drugged some women and raped them. Not sure if its true, but unfortunately ruined my old memories of him.
Bret said he wouldn’t do it not don’t do it
haha on the rib call vince home
although it's funny to think that the hitman was ribbing him
Bret might have been giving him some good advice. It worked the first time and if Bruce Prichard got worried that he was mad, then that meant that he was being taken advantage of.
Duke should have asserted himself in the conversation about the HHH match.
Droese's gimmick killed him because he was seen as just a trash man... but had he survived in the wwf just a few more months then he could have cut an angle as a blue collar worker turned rebel alongside Stone Cold Steve Austin.
another trash man turned into a crazy Rock Star ... Peter Steele of Type O Negative
You just know that some folks are going to use this for the Montreal debate, that is still going on, no matter how Bret, Shawn, Vince etc. might want to put it behind them. "Bret told him to refuse the job? There you are, that proves he's a selfish mark who bought on the Montreal screwjob himself". Actually I think I've only seen one of Duke's matches, the IYH 6(Feb. '96) match with Hunter, the one Duke was talking about I think, which he lost and as far as I know, wasn't on WWF PPV again. All I really remember is Duke doing a good-looking spinebuster on Hunter and even using his "trash-compactor" finishing move. Maybe that was a compromise of sorts, Hunter beat him, but he had Hunter beat at one point. But it didn't exactly make me think "Oh man, they should've kept this guy on PPV". Actually the whole gimmick seems like a jobber gimmick, I mean someone has to dispose of trash, but if you come into wrestling as an ex-trashman, you could probably only go as far as jobbing on PPV. I remember reading of Bob Holly not wanting to keep wrestling as Thurman "Sparky" Plugg, keeping the racing gimmick, but becoming Bob "Spark Plug" Holly. And of course Steve Austin, wanting to replace the jobber-bound gimmick The Ringmaster with something else. Oh and also Mick Foley in his first book, talks about "Mason the Mutilator" a gimmick he knew was going to fail, so he came up with "Mankind the Mutilator" instead, which for some reason ended up shortened to Mankind, before actually beginning, appearing more mysterious, less gimmicky.
Still I remember Matt Borne saying that he was determined to make something out of the "Doink the Clown" gimmick when Vince gave it to him. He even said that Vince invited him to come up with a better gimmick if he could, but apparently Matt liked the Doink the evil clown idea and believed in it, even when other wrestlers said that it was stupid. Doink of course did alright(for a clown) in WWF, beating Crush at WrestleMania and wrestling Bret Hart at Summerslam(though he wasn't billed as Bret's opponent). I honestly don't know how far a clown wrestler with a name like "Doink" could go though. Any wrestler has to be concerned when they take on a jobber role or a gimmick that is more than likely going to end up a jobber gimmick, like if you change your name and gimmick are people still going to say "Hey I recognize him, he's that jobber!".
Call Vince at home? Tell him your ideas? Not a great plan, even HHH hates doing that. 🇨🇦😁
Someone should ask Bret about this lol
9 mins in sounds like Bret dod right things n Duke had no idea how to carry it properly with guys in charge. Doesbt even sound bad so far.... any1 wondering where bret screwed up here for him, 😂 Duke sounds like u had no idea how to talk... I mean that respectfully.
more like you don't know how to talk lol
That sadistic streak of the Hart clan is well established .