I got the 650 and I can't imagine riding anything lighter at 80mph in the express lane in DC. I still get blown around a bit. But it feels solid. I'm a new rider.
I just bought a 400 cause the price was right and I wanted something that might keep me in check. Top end is high enough to quickly pass on the highway or get you out of a compromising situation but hopefully not enough to get me in trouble. HOPEFULLY! I will definitely be upgrading next year to a 650 or zx6r but this is definitely a fun little bike. I normally ride cruiser so it’s definitely a shift in riding style which was another concern I had when buying.
@@ceeIoc so in the 7 months since I posted this comment I can honestly say that even though I want a zx6r (the 650 just isn’t all it’s cracked up to be) I don’t regret buying the 400 it’s still an awesome little bike to learn your skills on it’s light and nimble and just an all out blast of a bike. I’m still looking at getting a zx6r but probably not for another year.
@@albertomadrill7751 did you ride it? I’m debating on 400 vs 650 for my first bike. From my research, more people seem to favor the 400 even with the less power.
I did get a chance to ride another persons 650 and it doesn’t really have that much more power to justify the additional cost (to me) I really do like the 400 cause of the base cost (even cheaper if you find one used in the off season) it’s a fun light bike with a decent top end it allows you to practice shifting and leaning.
I had a 2017 ninja 650 as my first bike that I rode everyday for a month. Couldn't get enough of it, never got bored. Sadly it was totaled when a driver made an illegal u-turn right in front of me. Almost a year later and I finally have the funds to buy another bike but I've seriously been considering the ninja 400 for a few reasons. It's lighter. Still has an analog tact, which I love. Aftermarket parts. Cheaper to insure. There seems to be enough aftermarket support to make the 400 just as quick as the 650 off the line, and with an ecu flash you can probably get similar top speeds to it too. These are just a couple things I have considered when looking at the market for used bikes. Prices are still crazy right now and the 400 would definitely be easier on my wallet.
It sounds like you've done enough research and you know exactly what you want. Wait for the right deal to pop up and get one of those Ninja 400. Thanks for watching!
I keep hearing the 400 is more of a sport bike and the 650 more of a sport touring bike.... that if you plan to want more speed the 400 is the better place to start between these 2 before going to a 600+ while if you're wanting something a bit sporty yet plan more for using it during longer rides, more highway miles, then 650 is the way to go. While you made some good points would you agree with that view between them?
Either option would be great to learn with prior to moving to a 600cc super-sport, but whichever one you choose depends on variables like budget, purpose, rider experience, rider confidence, physical stature, etc. The Ninja 400 and 650 are standard sport motorcycles with P-Twin motors that deliver linear power along the HP and TQ curves. While the Ninja 650 could be a sport-touring bike, Kawasaki does not have it segmented as such on their official website. The Ninja “ZX” series (super-sport line of Ninja) deliver HP and TQ in a much less linear way, with power curves being very peaky and in the sky-high rev ranges of the screaming I-4 engines. They do have fairly low torque numbers because of the smaller pistons banging around in the 4-cylinders, but it’s usually ample enough to still pick the front tire up in most low-rev scenarios thanks to more aggressive fueling and ability to rotate the mass quickly. Hope this helps answer your question. Thanks for watching!
I’m going to get my permit and license in like 2ish years so i’m taking the time to learn and figure out which one i want to start with and this helped a lot
@@leotradesnq Just based on what other people have said i’m leaning towards a Kawasaki Ninja 400 since it’s only 400cc and it’s perfect height off the ground for me
@@leotradesnq It’s whatever you feel like will last the longest or help you learn what riding a bike is like and then you get another one bc the ninja 400 is a beginner bike the 650 is a bike for someone with more experience.
I’m probably going to go with the 650 for my first bike. It’s a little more costly but I think it’s worth it. The 400 just seems a little underwhelming, I feel like I will grow out of it quickly. Also having the higher seat hight isn’t a concern. For context I’m 6’4’’ and weigh about 240.
Valentine’s Day RevZilla gift card giveaway ! Great comparison review . I own a 2012 Ninja 650 along with a 2022 z900rs , and 2009 Yamaha Raider and despite the Ninja 650 being the least in the hp factor of the bunch , I can honestly say it still has a huge winning grin factor and still makes me happy to ride it ! If you are considering a Ninja 650 get it ! Reliable Fun, and huge aftermarket for parts and accessories , cheap ownership and I give it a 8 out of 10 !
Thanks for sharing! While the 650 isn't the most powerful, it is very useful and practical for the streets with great ergos. You've been entered into the giveaway. 😁
Excellent information with regards to choosing a first motorcycle or going to a bigger bike Omni man! Very concise & great advice! Bigger engines do mean more weight but these handle any rough roads & are planted. Can’t wait to see you back on the road in spring time ripping up your roads & belting down the highways also smashing the timed 0-60 mile per hour speed records! Soon buddy, let me enjoy my sunny weather first for a while 😉 Hang in there & really appreciate your continued efforts in bringing us your content & humour! 🙌⭐️
Big thanks, Steve! My 0-60 times are down hill and that's probably why they're better than most averages, a guy can pretend to be fast 🥲 Enjoy your warm weather. I'll be back out terrorizing the US roadways soon enough. 😄
So I just swung by a dealership with both these bikes and then some. I sat on the 400 and I sat on the 650 I'm able to still have a bend in my knee with both feet flat on the ground they feel so small!
Would you recommend the 650 as a second bike moving up from a 300, or would you wait for the winner of the upcoming P-Twin wars (MT07, CB750 Hornet, GSX-8S, etc)
In my opinion, the 650 from Kawasaki is dated, down on power, and the least exciting out of all the P-Twin motorcycles right now. I would wait for the GSX-8S or the Hornet and opt for one of those. But, of course, go with what your heart (and your wallet) desires. Any of the aforementioned choices would be an excellent decision when moving up from a 300. 👍
Hmmmm I like to analyze things from a statistical perspective so let's break that down. From 4000 to 5000 is a 20% increase in price Ninja 400 has 50 HP and Ninja 650 has 67HP From 50HP to 67HP is a 25% increase in power So you're getting 25% more power for only 20% more cost, which on paper sounds great. BUT You should evaluate more variables IF the bikes are pre-owned. Overall condition, accidents, tires, brakes, leaks, miles, and maintenance history should all play a big factor. Weigh it all into your decision before pulling the trigger! Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
The 650 would be better suited for you since you already have experience on a larger machine. The 400 is fine, but I think you'll desire just a bit more punch which the 650 delivers. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
After 38 yrs and some damage over time I have to ride both to see how the nerve damage handles the ergos and the weight. The kid in me wants to keep the zz1400r but it’s time to trade the beast. The 650 obviously more appealing for Hp but, and there’s always a but, long highway rides are over and living in the sticks the 400 probably is more than enough. Gonna need some saddle time on both to make a decision but one choice already is that blue 400 already wins there
If your mopen is a 49cc it would probably be wise to start with the 400. If you're on a larger displacement moped you can consider the 650, but you'll need more discipline on the throttle, and you'll need to be more conscious of the added weight that comes with a larger displacement motorcycle.
Would you say the Ninja 400 is dangerous on the interstate for someone who is 6 ft weighs 215-230 lbs??? Probably going to start on the 650 class for just this reason as i intend to buy A bike soon. Near as makes no difference total noob start for me, as in I've ridden A dirt bike once and A scooter A few times 20 years ago.
Hey there! I have a video where I rode a Z400, which is essentially a Ninja 400 without the bodywork/fairings. I was about 175ish lbs, It pulled me along just fine going down the interstate. Check that video out and it should give you a better idea of the bikes highway capability. Hope this helps! ruclips.net/video/TOZKOTZKBqk/видео.html
@@AKlover Usually you'll only find yourself in those situations if you create them. Ride with your head on a swivel. Don't be aggressive, but be defensive in heavy traffic, and avoid putting yourself in a bad position on the roadways. Sometimes it's the people around you creating the situations, but there is a lot you can do as a rider to mitigate risk while out and about. Highly recommend taking the MSF course for more insight, and remember, ALWAYS have an escape route/plan in mind while you're riding. The power is usable and as long as you know how to manipulate the gearbox to give you the power you need, you'll rarely find yourself in an oh sh*t scenario. If you want a bit more peace of mind with that specific objection, the 650 has ample power and a better power-to-weight ratio overall, and that can make the 650 worth the extra $$$.
Is that atlas 4.0 helmet worth the $600 price 🏷️? I’m considering getting it because the joker graphic but I know I shouldn’t get a helmet just because it looks good… especially when it coast that much.
It’s more than just looks. IMO, the helmet is worth the price tag. Carbon fiber shell, easy to use magnetic fidlock, very wide field of view, premium liner, rheon technology, multi-density foam, simple visor swap mechanism, pin lock ready visors, and flows a good amount of air in hot climates. Buy once, cry once. 😄
Which one is better for casual but long rides. I commute bit of long distance between work and home. And thought of getting bike. Just got my license for it and want to know which would be better.
Hey there, I can't really say for you which one would be best; they are both excellent commuters but the 650 will undoubtedly perform better for long distance. You can check out both of my review videos to determine which one will be best suited for you. Ninja 650 Video: ruclips.net/video/Y5HLDPF-Lv8/видео.html Ninja 400 Video: ruclips.net/video/IoeUs67sYjs/видео.html
A Ninja 400 would work well as your first bike if it’s your first one ever. If you have ridden any 2-wheeled machine and have a decent amount of seat time, a 650 bodes well for the longer term. Thanks for watching! Ride safe. 😎
You only forgot to mention the newly added traction control option on the 2023 ninja 650- which would explain the reasonable price difference. Good review otherwise. Also, what brand of helmet are you wearing? thanks for the review!
Hey Mark, thanks for watching! I actually am working on getting a full 650 review out here in the next couple weeks. While traction control isn't something I think is necessary for the 650, it's nice that Kawasaki offers it in this intermediate category where most others don't - However, I'd like to see them drive value elsewhere with the platform. The helmet I wear is a Ruroc Atlas 4.0
650 will suit you much better. Still might feel a little cramped on a sport bike at your height, but it’s doable. You may be better off looking at the Vulcan 650 S though. Same engine/transmission as the Ninja, just different chassis/ergonomics. If you buy a new one you can get the ergo-fit system for (what I assume is) your extended reach. Best of luck. Ride safe!
If this is going to be your first bike ever, consider a few things. 1.) Does the used bike show that it’s been taken care of? (Laid down, worn out tires, leaking fluid, etc). If it shows to be in good condition and you are confident in the bike, it is probably worth going that route, but before you do, please see #2. 2.) What is your confidence level as a new rider from 0-100? If lower than an 80, I’d say you should probably lean towards the Ninja 400. It is a more beginner friendly machine, and can do everything the Ninja 650 does but with less aggression and power. 3.) How are you using this bike? Is it just a learning tool? How long will you have it? If it’s just going to be a stepping stone for 6 months to learn, the 400 is a better choice. If you have that 80+ confidence level previously mentioned, go for the 650. It will give you room to grow into, and you won’t look to sell it as soon, which will ultimately save you money. I hope this helps and gives you some things to consider. Best of luck. Ride safe! 😎
The Ninja 400 will be the best confidence builder for you and the slightly lower seat height would work well. Additionally, you may check out the R3 - it has the lowest seat height available and comes in with similar specs.
I am a new rider and planning to buy the ninja 650 because I like how it looks and just let me know if my height is enough to ride this model of Ninja because I am 5feet 6 inches tall.
You should be able to sit on the 650 and have at least one foot on the ground. Don’t get hung up on having both feet on the ground, as you will normally only have 1 on when you come to a stop in real world scenarios. If possible, get into a dealership before you make a commitment to purchasing and sit on one! It’s a good idea to get familiar with the bike in a showroom before you decide it’s right for you. All the best! Ride safe.
Both good, but been out for a while. Just rode the new CFMoto 450ss - that’s in a completely different league and sets the bar super high for other MFG’s in this category. Just rode one at Daytona bike week right after riding the 2023 ninja 400. CFmoto 450 SS has a 270 crank sounds like a GP bike, no vibrations, brembo brakes, 50hp, super slick transmission and slipper clutch, amazing high performance suspension, high quality controls, Color digital dash and super light weight. I was floored how good it is - this is coming from a very experienced rider and a 2 year warranty to boot.
Thanks for a great write up about your experience! I am so excited to get my hand on the 450SS so I can finally get answers to all of my questions I've received in the 2 videos I've made talking about it. A lot of people are so skeptical of CFMOTO and I do my best on this channel to help break the stigma, but haters will be haters. I'm thinking the 450SS will help silence those haters and hopefully give them more attention in the media.
@@tiger2q - 450ss all the way, it’s an amazing 1st bike or for a seasoned rider. R7 is nice, but more $$$, more power and a more aggressive riding position. You need skills first, as anyone can ride fast in a straight line.
So I’m pretty big at in weight so should I do the 650 for a little extra power or will the 400 be fine for my first bike I also go to the gym so I’m loosing weight
Hey there! If you're at all worried about the weight factor, I'd recommend the 650 to start on. With only a 0.2" difference in seat height, its a very similar feel, and the available power makes it worth the little bit extra cost (or monthly payment if you finance, roughly $50/month difference). If you're planning to lose some weight, you can save some $ and go with the 400. Both bikes will pull you along just fine, but obviously one does it better than the other. If you check out my Z400 review, it's actually the same engine/gearing as the Ninja 400 and when I filmed that video I was 175ish lbs. Here's a link! ruclips.net/video/TOZKOTZKBqk/видео.html
I'm gonna need to see how much the dealer you work at will charge to ship to S.FL cause all my local dealerships SEVERLY overcharge for all the add-ons after MSRP. A Ninja400 down here would be closer to (or over) $8k OTD 🥲
Answer to your question: it’s a gimmick more than anything. To your comment: These bikes are both capable of pulling 50+ mpg all day. The 400 closer to 55+ mpg. Source: www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/ex400_ninja_400_abs Thanks for stopping in, and ride safe. 😎
Hi, I'm looking for some advice on my first bike purchase. I'm considering the Ninja 400 or 650, though I'm open to alternatives. I am 5'9" at 150lbs, I have little riding experience other than taking a MSF course. My main concern with the 400 is that I'll grow out of it too quickly as I've heard many say. I live in a rural area and commute about 1-2 hours to work everyday. Do you have any advice regarding which bike to purchase? As well as any comments on the power difference between the two.
The 650 is going to give you more utility for a longer time. It will be significantly more capable and comfortable on your 1-2 hour rides. Get some ear plugs while you’re at it to cut down on wind noise as well. Make a learning curve for yourself on the 650 and know your limits - don’t let the bike outride your skill set. Ride safe! Thanks for watching.
A 400 would be an excellent bike to start on. Moving up to a GSXR-750 from there might not sound like a huge leap, but the power delivery between the two platforms is pretty significant, and you'd be surprised at how the engine layout can change the behavior of a motorcycle. I'm going to make a strong recommendation you take your MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundations) course to become more aware of how motorcycles operate and what happens when you do general inputs on the controls. On average it's about $300 for a 2 day course, but it's well worth the investment to make sure you are 100% prepared to ride confidently and safely.
@@Omni_Moto I'm in the dmv right now getting the msf certification viewed and the endorsement added to my license. I finished the harley-davidson course 3 weeks ago.😂 Thanks for you feedback I can't wait to get my bike in june. And yes the course is absolutely worth it. 100% worth it and recommend it to others.
~50MPH top speed and only 40 miles of range.. I can’t see it adding any conversation between the 400 and 650. Low HP and torque output numbers as well. Fun thought though.
I’ve noticed that in the Z900 for sure! The 400/650 Z/Ninja motorcycles all feel very similar to each other since they have the same frame. The biggest difference comes down to the handlebars and maybe slightly different foot positioning, but I haven’t dove that deep into yet. Thanks for a good question! Appreciate tuning in. Cheers 😎
Can confirm that the Z-series tanks dig into the family jewels because of the seat angle and tank shape but the Ninjas don't have that problem and are a lot more comfortable.
I missed out on buying my buddy's 2011 650, but between these two I still think that's what I am going to go with. Great video!
I hope you find another deal on a 650. Thanks for watching! Ride safe.
I got the 650 and I can't imagine riding anything lighter at 80mph in the express lane in DC. I still get blown around a bit. But it feels solid. I'm a new rider.
Yes the ninja 400 gets totally dominated by the wind on the highway.
I just bought a 400 cause the price was right and I wanted something that might keep me in check. Top end is high enough to quickly pass on the highway or get you out of a compromising situation but hopefully not enough to get me in trouble.
HOPEFULLY!
I will definitely be upgrading next year to a 650 or zx6r but this is definitely a fun little bike.
I normally ride cruiser so it’s definitely a shift in riding style which was another concern I had when buying.
See, why buy a bike you're going to sell in a year? Just get the 650
@@ceeIoc so in the 7 months since I posted this comment I can honestly say that even though I want a zx6r (the 650 just isn’t all it’s cracked up to be) I don’t regret buying the 400 it’s still an awesome little bike to learn your skills on it’s light and nimble and just an all out blast of a bike. I’m still looking at getting a zx6r but probably not for another year.
@@albertomadrill7751 did you ride it? I’m debating on 400 vs 650 for my first bike. From my research, more people seem to favor the 400 even with the less power.
I did get a chance to ride another persons 650 and it doesn’t really have that much more power to justify the additional cost (to me) I really do like the 400 cause of the base cost (even cheaper if you find one used in the off season) it’s a fun light bike with a decent top end it allows you to practice shifting and leaning.
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Thank you for the video! Helped me to decide which one to get! Going with the 400 💪😁
Awesome! Glad to hear this video helped. You’ve been entered. 👍
I had a 2017 ninja 650 as my first bike that I rode everyday for a month. Couldn't get enough of it, never got bored. Sadly it was totaled when a driver made an illegal u-turn right in front of me. Almost a year later and I finally have the funds to buy another bike but I've seriously been considering the ninja 400 for a few reasons.
It's lighter.
Still has an analog tact, which I love.
Aftermarket parts.
Cheaper to insure.
There seems to be enough aftermarket support to make the 400 just as quick as the 650 off the line, and with an ecu flash you can probably get similar top speeds to it too.
These are just a couple things I have considered when looking at the market for used bikes. Prices are still crazy right now and the 400 would definitely be easier on my wallet.
It sounds like you've done enough research and you know exactly what you want. Wait for the right deal to pop up and get one of those Ninja 400. Thanks for watching!
I keep hearing the 400 is more of a sport bike and the 650 more of a sport touring bike.... that if you plan to want more speed the 400 is the better place to start between these 2 before going to a 600+ while if you're wanting something a bit sporty yet plan more for using it during longer rides, more highway miles, then 650 is the way to go. While you made some good points would you agree with that view between them?
Either option would be great to learn with prior to moving to a 600cc super-sport, but whichever one you choose depends on variables like budget, purpose, rider experience, rider confidence, physical stature, etc.
The Ninja 400 and 650 are standard sport motorcycles with P-Twin motors that deliver linear power along the HP and TQ curves. While the Ninja 650 could be a sport-touring bike, Kawasaki does not have it segmented as such on their official website.
The Ninja “ZX” series (super-sport line of Ninja) deliver HP and TQ in a much less linear way, with power curves being very peaky and in the sky-high rev ranges of the screaming I-4 engines. They do have fairly low torque numbers because of the smaller pistons banging around in the 4-cylinders, but it’s usually ample enough to still pick the front tire up in most low-rev scenarios thanks to more aggressive fueling and ability to rotate the mass quickly.
Hope this helps answer your question. Thanks for watching!
I’m leaning towards a 650 I found for pretty cheap, but considering I’ve only rode dirt bikes I’ve leaned more towards a 400 in the past
I’m going to get my permit and license in like 2ish years so i’m taking the time to learn and figure out which one i want to start with and this helped a lot
im gettting a bike soon with no experience and im still debating aswell, what bike are u leaning towards?
@@leotradesnq Just based on what other people have said i’m leaning towards a Kawasaki Ninja 400 since it’s only 400cc and it’s perfect height off the ground for me
@@envvy_rain i see, i wanna get a 650 because i feel like ill grow out of the 400 too quickly. Still debating
@@leotradesnq It’s whatever you feel like will last the longest or help you learn what riding a bike is like and then you get another one bc the ninja 400 is a beginner bike the 650 is a bike for someone with more experience.
Thank you for watching! I'm glad this video was helpful. Ride safe. 😎
I’m probably going to go with the 650 for my first bike. It’s a little more costly but I think it’s worth it. The 400 just seems a little underwhelming, I feel like I will grow out of it quickly. Also having the higher seat hight isn’t a concern. For context I’m 6’4’’ and weigh about 240.
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Great Video!! Great info!! Thanks
Great comment!! Great words!!
Thanks for watching. Ride safe. 😎
Valentine’s Day RevZilla gift card giveaway ! Great comparison review . I own a 2012 Ninja 650 along with a 2022 z900rs , and 2009 Yamaha Raider and despite the Ninja 650 being the least in the hp factor of the bunch , I can honestly say it still has a huge winning grin factor and still makes me happy to ride it ! If you are considering a Ninja 650 get it ! Reliable Fun, and huge aftermarket for parts and accessories , cheap ownership and I give it a 8 out of 10 !
Thanks for sharing! While the 650 isn't the most powerful, it is very useful and practical for the streets with great ergos.
You've been entered into the giveaway. 😁
Excellent information with regards to choosing a first motorcycle or going to a bigger bike Omni man! Very concise & great advice! Bigger engines do mean more weight but these handle any rough roads & are planted. Can’t wait to see you back on the road in spring time ripping up your roads & belting down the highways also smashing the timed 0-60 mile per hour speed records! Soon buddy, let me enjoy my sunny weather first for a while 😉 Hang in there & really appreciate your continued efforts in bringing us your content & humour! 🙌⭐️
Big thanks, Steve! My 0-60 times are down hill and that's probably why they're better than most averages, a guy can pretend to be fast 🥲 Enjoy your warm weather. I'll be back out terrorizing the US roadways soon enough. 😄
So I just swung by a dealership with both these bikes and then some. I sat on the 400 and I sat on the 650 I'm able to still have a bend in my knee with both feet flat on the ground they feel so small!
Only about .2” difference in seat height. Negligible for most, but could be a make or break for some!
Would you recommend the 650 as a second bike moving up from a 300, or would you wait for the winner of the upcoming P-Twin wars (MT07, CB750 Hornet, GSX-8S, etc)
In my opinion, the 650 from Kawasaki is dated, down on power, and the least exciting out of all the P-Twin motorcycles right now. I would wait for the GSX-8S or the Hornet and opt for one of those. But, of course, go with what your heart (and your wallet) desires.
Any of the aforementioned choices would be an excellent decision when moving up from a 300. 👍
If you could get a 400 for around 4000 euros and a 650 for around 5000 both second handed which one would you choose?
Hmmmm I like to analyze things from a statistical perspective so let's break that down.
From 4000 to 5000 is a 20% increase in price
Ninja 400 has 50 HP and Ninja 650 has 67HP
From 50HP to 67HP is a 25% increase in power
So you're getting 25% more power for only 20% more cost, which on paper sounds great.
BUT
You should evaluate more variables IF the bikes are pre-owned. Overall condition, accidents, tires, brakes, leaks, miles, and maintenance history should all play a big factor. Weigh it all into your decision before pulling the trigger! Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
So I’ve rode for only a month a few years back but it was a 750 cruiser. I’m also 6’1 Would the 650 be a better option than the 400 then?
The 650 would be better suited for you since you already have experience on a larger machine. The 400 is fine, but I think you'll desire just a bit more punch which the 650 delivers. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
What about the fuel efficience ? I 'm a commuter and thats also important ;) thanks for the video
Ninja 400 obtains between 60-70MPG while the 650 achieves a respectable 50-60MPG. Thanks for watching and ride safe. 😎
@@Omni_Moto thanks for the reply! Drive safe too!
My moto does 5.2l per 100km
Which bike would you recommend for continuous long distance riding and also being a first bike?
Between the two in the video, the Ninja 650 no doubt. 👍
Thanks I appreciate the gems. Ride safe!!!!
After 38 yrs and some damage over time I have to ride both to see how the nerve damage handles the ergos and the weight. The kid in me wants to keep the zz1400r but it’s time to trade the beast. The 650 obviously more appealing for Hp but, and there’s always a but, long highway rides are over and living in the sticks the 400 probably is more than enough. Gonna need some saddle time on both to make a decision but one choice already is that blue 400 already wins there
Never damage? What happened?
Just pick2d my my ninja 650 as first bike!!! Bought used.
Glad to hear you found something you like. Ride safe!
How do you like it? I’m in indecisive on what to go for. 650 or 400
@@alexrodriguez5149dude same here. I wish more reply would reply to us lol
@@CarlJames10 I got a 400, got bored of it quick but learned a lot on it. Just sold it yesterday.
Picking up an 600rr next Thursday. Pretty stoked
what y’all think i only have a moped atm should i get the 650 or 400 🤨
If your mopen is a 49cc it would probably be wise to start with the 400. If you're on a larger displacement moped you can consider the 650, but you'll need more discipline on the throttle, and you'll need to be more conscious of the added weight that comes with a larger displacement motorcycle.
Would you say the Ninja 400 is dangerous on the interstate for someone who is 6 ft weighs 215-230 lbs??? Probably going to start on the 650 class for just this reason as i intend to buy A bike soon. Near as makes no difference total noob start for me, as in I've ridden A dirt bike once and A scooter A few times 20 years ago.
Hey there! I have a video where I rode a Z400, which is essentially a Ninja 400 without the bodywork/fairings. I was about 175ish lbs, It pulled me along just fine going down the interstate. Check that video out and it should give you a better idea of the bikes highway capability. Hope this helps! ruclips.net/video/TOZKOTZKBqk/видео.html
@@Omni_Moto Never get into Oh Sh!t situations due to lack of power???
@@AKlover Usually you'll only find yourself in those situations if you create them. Ride with your head on a swivel. Don't be aggressive, but be defensive in heavy traffic, and avoid putting yourself in a bad position on the roadways. Sometimes it's the people around you creating the situations, but there is a lot you can do as a rider to mitigate risk while out and about. Highly recommend taking the MSF course for more insight, and remember, ALWAYS have an escape route/plan in mind while you're riding.
The power is usable and as long as you know how to manipulate the gearbox to give you the power you need, you'll rarely find yourself in an oh sh*t scenario.
If you want a bit more peace of mind with that specific objection, the 650 has ample power and a better power-to-weight ratio overall, and that can make the 650 worth the extra $$$.
Is that atlas 4.0 helmet worth the $600 price 🏷️? I’m considering getting it because the joker graphic but I know I shouldn’t get a helmet just because it looks good… especially when it coast that much.
It’s more than just looks. IMO, the helmet is worth the price tag. Carbon fiber shell, easy to use magnetic fidlock, very wide field of view, premium liner, rheon technology, multi-density foam, simple visor swap mechanism, pin lock ready visors, and flows a good amount of air in hot climates.
Buy once, cry once. 😄
Which one is better for casual but long rides. I commute bit of long distance between work and home. And thought of getting bike. Just got my license for it and want to know which would be better.
Hey there, I can't really say for you which one would be best; they are both excellent commuters but the 650 will undoubtedly perform better for long distance. You can check out both of my review videos to determine which one will be best suited for you.
Ninja 650 Video: ruclips.net/video/Y5HLDPF-Lv8/видео.html
Ninja 400 Video: ruclips.net/video/IoeUs67sYjs/видео.html
I weigh around 125-130 what do you recommend im skinny so?
A Ninja 400 would work well as your first bike if it’s your first one ever. If you have ridden any 2-wheeled machine and have a decent amount of seat time, a 650 bodes well for the longer term. Thanks for watching! Ride safe. 😎
You only forgot to mention the newly added traction control option on the 2023 ninja 650- which would explain the reasonable price difference. Good review otherwise. Also, what brand of helmet are you wearing? thanks for the review!
Hey Mark, thanks for watching! I actually am working on getting a full 650 review out here in the next couple weeks. While traction control isn't something I think is necessary for the 650, it's nice that Kawasaki offers it in this intermediate category where most others don't - However, I'd like to see them drive value elsewhere with the platform.
The helmet I wear is a Ruroc Atlas 4.0
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i’m about 6’5” 200lbs and i’ve heard the 300 would be too small, any tall rider with a 650 here? is it a better fit?
650 will suit you much better. Still might feel a little cramped on a sport bike at your height, but it’s doable. You may be better off looking at the Vulcan 650 S though. Same engine/transmission as the Ninja, just different chassis/ergonomics. If you buy a new one you can get the ergo-fit system for (what I assume is) your extended reach.
Best of luck. Ride safe!
Great video!
would you rather buy a ninja 650 2021 or a ninja 400 2023 price is the same and it would be my first bike
If this is going to be your first bike ever, consider a few things.
1.) Does the used bike show that it’s been taken care of? (Laid down, worn out tires, leaking fluid, etc). If it shows to be in good condition and you are confident in the bike, it is probably worth going that route, but before you do, please see #2.
2.) What is your confidence level as a new rider from 0-100? If lower than an 80, I’d say you should probably lean towards the Ninja 400. It is a more beginner friendly machine, and can do everything the Ninja 650 does but with less aggression and power.
3.) How are you using this bike? Is it just a learning tool? How long will you have it? If it’s just going to be a stepping stone for 6 months to learn, the 400 is a better choice. If you have that 80+ confidence level previously mentioned, go for the 650. It will give you room to grow into, and you won’t look to sell it as soon, which will ultimately save you money.
I hope this helps and gives you some things to consider. Best of luck. Ride safe! 😎
@@Omni_Moto thanks fort the advice the bike is in realy good konditions only have 300 miles on it
I’m a bigger guy like 5’11 300 lbs mostly muscle. Is the 400 too small?
The 400 will pull you along fine, but for your dimensions I’d recommend the 650. It will better fit you in the long run. Hope this helps.
yoo, im ah really short person. im 5’3 😢 which bike would u prefer for me to start off with between the 400 or 650?
The Ninja 400 will be the best confidence builder for you and the slightly lower seat height would work well. Additionally, you may check out the R3 - it has the lowest seat height available and comes in with similar specs.
@@Omni_Moto okay thanks u jus got ah new sub
I am a new rider and planning to buy the ninja 650 because I like how it looks and just let me know if my height is enough to ride this model of Ninja because I am 5feet 6 inches tall.
You should be able to sit on the 650 and have at least one foot on the ground. Don’t get hung up on having both feet on the ground, as you will normally only have 1 on when you come to a stop in real world scenarios.
If possible, get into a dealership before you make a commitment to purchasing and sit on one! It’s a good idea to get familiar with the bike in a showroom before you decide it’s right for you.
All the best! Ride safe.
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Both good, but been out for a while. Just rode the new CFMoto 450ss - that’s in a completely different league and sets the bar super high for other MFG’s in this category. Just rode one at Daytona bike week right after riding the 2023 ninja 400. CFmoto 450 SS has a 270 crank sounds like a GP bike, no vibrations, brembo brakes, 50hp, super slick transmission and slipper clutch, amazing high performance suspension, high quality controls, Color digital dash and super light weight. I was floored how good it is - this is coming from a very experienced rider and a 2 year warranty to boot.
Thanks for a great write up about your experience! I am so excited to get my hand on the 450SS so I can finally get answers to all of my questions I've received in the 2 videos I've made talking about it.
A lot of people are so skeptical of CFMOTO and I do my best on this channel to help break the stigma, but haters will be haters. I'm thinking the 450SS will help silence those haters and hopefully give them more attention in the media.
I’m a noob rider with no experience. I take my MSF course tomorrow and I’m debating on a CF MOTO 450 SS or the Yamaha R7 for a first bike. Thoughts??
@@tiger2q 450SS video is in the works right now. Hoping to have it out before Sunday evening.
@@Omni_Moto I’ll be on the lookout!
@@tiger2q - 450ss all the way, it’s an amazing 1st bike or for a seasoned rider. R7 is nice, but more $$$, more power and a more aggressive riding position. You need skills first, as anyone can ride fast in a straight line.
So I’m pretty big at in weight so should I do the 650 for a little extra power or will the 400 be fine for my first bike I also go to the gym so I’m loosing weight
Hey there! If you're at all worried about the weight factor, I'd recommend the 650 to start on. With only a 0.2" difference in seat height, its a very similar feel, and the available power makes it worth the little bit extra cost (or monthly payment if you finance, roughly $50/month difference). If you're planning to lose some weight, you can save some $ and go with the 400.
Both bikes will pull you along just fine, but obviously one does it better than the other. If you check out my Z400 review, it's actually the same engine/gearing as the Ninja 400 and when I filmed that video I was 175ish lbs. Here's a link! ruclips.net/video/TOZKOTZKBqk/видео.html
@@Omni_Moto thank you I appreciate the response and insight
I'm gonna need to see how much the dealer you work at will charge to ship to S.FL cause all my local dealerships SEVERLY overcharge for all the add-ons after MSRP. A Ninja400 down here would be closer to (or over) $8k OTD 🥲
Email me your info! omnimoto1@gmail.com
I’ll put a quote together for you.
Question: why the helmet head? Comment: don’t agree that they are fuel efficient. Not thirty for sure, but certainly not economical for the power.
Answer to your question: it’s a gimmick more than anything.
To your comment: These bikes are both capable of pulling 50+ mpg all day. The 400 closer to 55+ mpg.
Source: www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/ex400_ninja_400_abs
Thanks for stopping in, and ride safe. 😎
Great video
Thanks for watching!
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Hi, I'm looking for some advice on my first bike purchase. I'm considering the Ninja 400 or 650, though I'm open to alternatives.
I am 5'9" at 150lbs, I have little riding experience other than taking a MSF course. My main concern with the 400 is that I'll grow out of it too quickly as I've heard many say. I live in a rural area and commute about 1-2 hours to work everyday.
Do you have any advice regarding which bike to purchase? As well as any comments on the power difference between the two.
The 650 is going to give you more utility for a longer time. It will be significantly more capable and comfortable on your 1-2 hour rides. Get some ear plugs while you’re at it to cut down on wind noise as well.
Make a learning curve for yourself on the 650 and know your limits - don’t let the bike outride your skill set. Ride safe! Thanks for watching.
@@Omni_Moto Thanks for the advice, I'll look more into the 650 over the 400 :)
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Is it good to start on a 400 then later on upgrade to a gsxr 750?
Edit: I weigh 112lbs and I've never rode a street bike on the road before.
A 400 would be an excellent bike to start on. Moving up to a GSXR-750 from there might not sound like a huge leap, but the power delivery between the two platforms is pretty significant, and you'd be surprised at how the engine layout can change the behavior of a motorcycle.
I'm going to make a strong recommendation you take your MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundations) course to become more aware of how motorcycles operate and what happens when you do general inputs on the controls. On average it's about $300 for a 2 day course, but it's well worth the investment to make sure you are 100% prepared to ride confidently and safely.
@@Omni_Moto I'm in the dmv right now getting the msf certification viewed and the endorsement added to my license. I finished the harley-davidson course 3 weeks ago.😂
Thanks for you feedback I can't wait to get my bike in june. And yes the course is absolutely worth it. 100% worth it and recommend it to others.
That’s exactly what I plan to do, just finished my msf course Friday going tomorrow(Monday) to get my license.
The Ze-1 is gonna throw quite a weench in this comparison.
~50MPH top speed and only 40 miles of range.. I can’t see it adding any conversation between the 400 and 650. Low HP and torque output numbers as well. Fun thought though.
The electric Kawasakis are in an entirely different niche. There is virtually no overlap among them other than coming from the same manufacturer.
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I've heard the Z series seat angle pushes the boys into the tank. Is it the same for the Ninja?
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I’ve noticed that in the Z900 for sure! The 400/650 Z/Ninja motorcycles all feel very similar to each other since they have the same frame. The biggest difference comes down to the handlebars and maybe slightly different foot positioning, but I haven’t dove that deep into yet. Thanks for a good question! Appreciate tuning in. Cheers 😎
Can confirm that the Z-series tanks dig into the family jewels because of the seat angle and tank shape but the Ninjas don't have that problem and are a lot more comfortable.
What s the deal with the helmet on ??? why r u hiding ?
It’s a gimmick lol.
Also, no face no case 💀
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