Still plenty of winter solstice holidays to choose from. Like Saturnalia, which involves making evergreen wreaths, lighting candles, and giving gifts to loved ones.
without Christianity the Roman Empire might have lasted a bit longer, Judaism would not dominate as Roman culture would have been more dominating, monotheism might never take off and Islam would also likely be very different or not exist at all. Judaism might have slowly eroded away. history could have been very different. without Islam there would be no Arabic unity and the Islamic conquests would not happen which would not fuel the age of exploration and colonial era would also not happen. no consolidation of the world's wealth would not catalyze the industrial revolution. man... @.@
Judaism wouldn't have eroded. But if you follow the fact that the Roman Empire would collapse, then it'd be highly likely that Roman culture would erode.
@@mmoney416 do you have any logic to back up the statement? if the Roman Empire's collapse would erode Roman culture why would the conquest of Judea not erode Judaism? if Christianity did not exist there would be no dominating cultural/power center to replace Roman culture. Roman empire would likely last longer. without popularization of Christianity Roman culture would be dominant, and much easier to spread, there would be no need to allow other religions to practice freely. Rome would be in much more control over crushing local cultures. repeated Jewish rebellions gives incentive to Romanize the populace.
@@hzhang1228Because we keep coming back. All of our history is just empires attacking us and then collapsing, but we constantly thrive for thousands of years. Plus, the 2 Talmudim would be written anyway, thus giving the non-Zealots a way to continue the religion without having Eretz Yisrael
@@mmoney416 surviving one condition does not equate to surviving another. each situation is different. you are not addressing the specific set of circumstances at discussion. one could say humanity has survived 200k years. which is nothing in the greater scope of the planet, life, or species. and does not guarantee humanity would survive another 200k years nor the previous 200k years if the situation would be different. the empires did not collapse due to attacking Judaism, but a multitude of factors. and a multitude of factors allowed Judaism to survive. we a talking about a specific set of factors. and you have not provided any counter argument to these specific set of factors.
All that means is that Judiasm won't lead to a utopian future either. Basically, Family Guy is subconsciously saying that everyone should be atheist for the world to progress. Given that it was written by pretentious Seth McFarlane, it's not farfetched to say that is what he personally believes.
In Road to the Multiverse they already made this joke sort of. They visit a dimension where Christianity never existed and everything was futuristic because of it.
I think it was more that the renaissance didn't really happen, art and religion didn't get a big revitalization, and this allowed newer sciences to flourish
Plus with Judaism, you drink a lot of wine. I first got loaded after services on Friday when I was 6. Wasn't taller than the table those little cups of Manischevits were on but I reached up and had a few.
@@TheAnantaSesaChanukah would be celebrated like how the Sages wanted us to celebrate. Lighting candles and singing songs (not songs that include the uprising)
If Christianity never happened, would the pagan religions still exist? Would the Roman Empire have still worshiped the Olympians? Would the areas of Scandinavia still worship the Norse gods?
@jaredf6205 There aren't that many I can name, especially ones from this era and region. Zoroastrianism is one that has survived, but there are only 100,000 of them. A good example of what I said previously is Egypt. When the Greek hellenized Egypt, they also brought Greek philosophy with them. If Christianity never existed, it is fair to say that Greek philosophy in Egypt would have a massive impact on religious life. We know this did happen because the Jewish philosopher Philo (lived before spread of Christianity) used Greek philosophy as the basis for what he wrote. Greek philosophers actually wrote about monotheism being correct whereas Philo's philosophy has elements of atheism. So following this pattern, we can say that atheism and just general secularism (because the Hellenization of Egypt removed many things about the Egyptian religion) would be very popular
How come the first time they went to a Christian free reality it was basically the future, but this time it's just Jewish? Also, what is Mort in this world? Is he just a guy with no notable characteristics, or does he believe in a different religion?
I'm just going to assume before I reach the end of these clips for this episode that if Brian meets the girl he did all this for again she still won't sleep with him
1. Why is Brian so happy? All that was because he wanted to sleep with a woman outside marriage. Doesn't Judaism have sexual taboos? 2. They have lived all their lives in the new timeline, their family remembers them. How can they not know that Judaism is the dominant religion? Does it mean they don't know anything they were supposed to know in the new timeline?
Uhm if Christianity never existed then wouldn't their timeline become the same as the technological advanced world in the other dimension because that world became 1000 years more advanced because Christianity never existed but instead they all just turned Jewish. Big oversight there
Apparently nobody in the writers room knew that the Hebrew faith doesn’t begin with Moses it actually started with Abraham not to mention the fact he’s also the patriarch of Islam. I’m actually surprised they didn’t bother making the Griffins muslim stereotypes!
Islam in large part uses the same mythology history as Christianity. Including the belief that Prophet Isa(Jesus) would return. So without the existence of Christianity Islam wouldn't quiet look the same as it does today.
But Judaism isn’t a universalizing/evangelizing religion. Wouldn’t they be Muslim instead? Or maybe this is because Lois is ethnically Jewish (on her mom’s side, but it’s a matrilineal ethnicity), and they are a Jewish minority in an otherwise Muslim country.
Actually I’d think it’d be Roman Paganism tbh. Without Christianity there’s no Islam, bc Jesus is one of the five Prophets of Islam, Muhammad is the final prophet
@@TheOldSalt everything else in the universe’s history is same down to the walls of Stewie’s room, so I think it’s more reasonable to assume Islam would have only 4 prophets in this version
Islam probably would not exist without Christianity, and if it did it would end up as a more direct offshoot of Judaism. It's much more likely one of the Roman cults like Mithraism would have come to dominate Europe, or Zoroastrianism. Though without Christianity its also possible that there would be a wide range of Polytheistic beliefs.
Uh no, not likely. Seems how most of the religions of ancient and medieval times are associated with empires, many of the religions would die as their empires fell. Today, the top faith would be Atheism.
Islam wouldn’t exist the way we know it without Christianity, and to the extent that it would exist it probably wouldn’t spread the same way or extent as Rome would collapse by that time.
@@zombies4evadude24 point is the people who made Islam assuming you don’t believe it came from God put a strong missionary zeal and the concept of having many children to spread the religion so I’m quite sure it would be the dominant faith.Just look at other large religions such as Hinduism they did not care much about converting people for most of their history that is why it exists mostly just in South Asia.
I don’t mind. I mean, Christianity is like a DLC of Judaism. And Eslam is a fan made spin-off 🫢🫢🫢🫢 Edit: For some reason, RUclips doesn’t let me post my comment if I spell Eslam properly 😂
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Given that in this scene Judaism became the top religion I’m surprised they didn’t look more like Mort
Yeah, it's surprisingly not as distasteful as it could have been.
In this reality, Mort’s voiced by Viener.
religion isn't genetic
@@proton8689to relax the situation! Look up how people in Jerusalem are depicted in family guy,
Or Peter and gang looking for god.
That joke worked when they went to Israel. Using it here would’ve ruined the whole element of it. This works fine.
No Christmas for them
If I was there, I totally would have a problem with Brian. I love Christmas!
Still plenty of winter solstice holidays to choose from. Like Saturnalia, which involves making evergreen wreaths, lighting candles, and giving gifts to loved ones.
So what? They'd still have Hanukkah.
they have hanukkah which lasts 8 days.
Although Chanukah is vastly different from Christmas. The only similarity is they both start on the 25th of the December month
without Christianity the Roman Empire might have lasted a bit longer, Judaism would not dominate as Roman culture would have been more dominating, monotheism might never take off and Islam would also likely be very different or not exist at all. Judaism might have slowly eroded away. history could have been very different. without Islam there would be no Arabic unity and the Islamic conquests would not happen which would not fuel the age of exploration and colonial era would also not happen. no consolidation of the world's wealth would not catalyze the industrial revolution. man... @.@
Yeah but that doesn’t fit with Seth’s r/atheism views at all.
Judaism wouldn't have eroded. But if you follow the fact that the Roman Empire would collapse, then it'd be highly likely that Roman culture would erode.
@@mmoney416 do you have any logic to back up the statement? if the Roman Empire's collapse would erode Roman culture why would the conquest of Judea not erode Judaism? if Christianity did not exist there would be no dominating cultural/power center to replace Roman culture. Roman empire would likely last longer. without popularization of Christianity Roman culture would be dominant, and much easier to spread, there would be no need to allow other religions to practice freely. Rome would be in much more control over crushing local cultures. repeated Jewish rebellions gives incentive to Romanize the populace.
@@hzhang1228Because we keep coming back. All of our history is just empires attacking us and then collapsing, but we constantly thrive for thousands of years. Plus, the 2 Talmudim would be written anyway, thus giving the non-Zealots a way to continue the religion without having Eretz Yisrael
@@mmoney416 surviving one condition does not equate to surviving another. each situation is different. you are not addressing the specific set of circumstances at discussion. one could say humanity has survived 200k years. which is nothing in the greater scope of the planet, life, or species. and does not guarantee humanity would survive another 200k years nor the previous 200k years if the situation would be different.
the empires did not collapse due to attacking Judaism, but a multitude of factors. and a multitude of factors allowed Judaism to survive. we a talking about a specific set of factors. and you have not provided any counter argument to these specific set of factors.
0:51 “What the yidle-diddle-diddle-didle-deuce?”
He almost quoted Ned Flanders
When you press the translate button it adds a d.
Wasn't there a episode where we saw a world without Christianity? It was futuristic and very utopian?
Yep
All that means is that Judiasm won't lead to a utopian future either.
Basically, Family Guy is subconsciously saying that everyone should be atheist for the world to progress.
Given that it was written by pretentious Seth McFarlane, it's not farfetched to say that is what he personally believes.
@@Ben-jl2rh he stopped writing for Family Guy and focuses more on American Dad
I sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
@@Ben-jl2rh is it even wrong to assume there'd be more progress if it was? i don't think it is
In Road to the Multiverse they already made this joke sort of. They visit a dimension where Christianity never existed and everything was futuristic because of it.
And Meg was hot
Yet said to be ugly in comparison to Lois. Stewie said if Brian sees her, he'll be immediately aroused.
The joke was wrong everything should have been complete terror because of it. We're not futuristic because of other reasons not Christianity.
Didn't Brian and Stewie once visit a universe where everything looked futuristic because Christianity never existed.
I think it was more that the renaissance didn't really happen, art and religion didn't get a big revitalization, and this allowed newer sciences to flourish
@@salavast1522 that makes even less sense. The renaissance was what allowed science and industry to flourish.
"Nobody remembers this Meg"
Well in Hanukah you get more gifts and Bah Mitzvahs are mandatory
Without Christmas there would be no Hanukkah. Bc Hanukkah is only celebrated to compete with Santa Claus.
Plus with Judaism, you drink a lot of wine. I first got loaded after services on Friday when I was 6. Wasn't taller than the table those little cups of Manischevits were on but I reached up and had a few.
@@TheAnantaSesaChanukah would be celebrated like how the Sages wanted us to celebrate. Lighting candles and singing songs (not songs that include the uprising)
@@lawrencelewis2592 any bar caught selling liquor to underage kids should just say they’re Jews practicing their religion. Lol
What about doctor daughter?
10 bucks says even in the Judaism timeline, Meg’s still treated like shit
It's Meg, they don't care
Still, God going to be mad at Stewie and Brian at the end.
Wait why? Keep in mind Jesus wasn’t Christian either, he was Jewish.
If Christianity never happened, would the pagan religions still exist? Would the Roman Empire have still worshiped the Olympians? Would the areas of Scandinavia still worship the Norse gods?
Yes
Probably not. Those empires would fall and the dominant "religion" would probably be secularism or atheism
@@mmoney416Religions survive empires falling *all the time*
@jaredf6205 There aren't that many I can name, especially ones from this era and region. Zoroastrianism is one that has survived, but there are only 100,000 of them. A good example of what I said previously is Egypt. When the Greek hellenized Egypt, they also brought Greek philosophy with them. If Christianity never existed, it is fair to say that Greek philosophy in Egypt would have a massive impact on religious life. We know this did happen because the Jewish philosopher Philo (lived before spread of Christianity) used Greek philosophy as the basis for what he wrote. Greek philosophers actually wrote about monotheism being correct whereas Philo's philosophy has elements of atheism. So following this pattern, we can say that atheism and just general secularism (because the Hellenization of Egypt removed many things about the Egyptian religion) would be very popular
@@mmoney416 Almost every current religion has been the main religion of a large empire that has fallen, multiple times even.
How come the first time they went to a Christian free reality it was basically the future, but this time it's just Jewish?
Also, what is Mort in this world? Is he just a guy with no notable characteristics, or does he believe in a different religion?
Very simple, Family Guy is inconsistent. This is just Seth’s way of making fun of religion.
@@Ronin.Samurai Doesn't he mostly just voice act for Family Guy these days?
@@Ronin.SamuraiIm pretty sure Seth’s literally a christian, he doesn’t even write for the show anymore just does the voices.
@@RandomPerson-sh1fe um….. Seth is an atheist, he’s outright stated it. Don’t believe me? Look it up.
@@Ronin.Samurai Like i said he doesn’t write for the show anymore so my point still stands.
I love being a Christian ❤
Funny that everyone pretends christianity isn't just an offshoot of judaism.
So is muslims
Unmarried woman don't cover their hair Meg, nice wishful thinking on your part though....
Guess that means no Christmas
Yule And Saturnalia Would Still Exist
Don’t forget Hanukkah.
I'm just going to assume before I reach the end of these clips for this episode that if Brian meets the girl he did all this for again she still won't sleep with him
Dont know if you watched the episode, but she’s never brought up again.
I presume that in this universe, Ben Shapiro would be president, forever!
i’m buddhist, i wonder if our religion would be any different?
Wouldn't Humanity be 1000 years more advanced?
Now what does that mean for Hitler
It means he failed horrendously, or he never existed.
1. Why is Brian so happy? All that was because he wanted to sleep with a woman outside marriage. Doesn't Judaism have sexual taboos?
2. They have lived all their lives in the new timeline, their family remembers them. How can they not know that Judaism is the dominant religion? Does it mean they don't know anything they were supposed to know in the new timeline?
Uhm if Christianity never existed then wouldn't their timeline become the same as the technological advanced world in the other dimension because that world became 1000 years more advanced because Christianity never existed but instead they all just turned Jewish.
Big oversight there
What was that in the end?
Fiddler reference
Meg and Kevin 2025
Jew
Apparently nobody in the writers room knew that the Hebrew faith doesn’t begin with Moses it actually started with Abraham not to mention the fact he’s also the patriarch of Islam. I’m actually surprised they didn’t bother making the Griffins muslim stereotypes!
No. Islam would be tops
wouldnt islam be more likely the most dominant religion? eh who cares its still funny
Oh cool 0:26 jus like family goy huh ?
This isn’t how Judaism works
The only issue I see is that Meg is wearing a tichel even though she is unmarried
How did Islam not become the top religion?
Becauae it is idolatry.
Bc people realized that none of it is true.
Islam in large part uses the same mythology history as Christianity.
Including the belief that Prophet Isa(Jesus) would return.
So without the existence of Christianity Islam wouldn't quiet look the same as it does today.
@@kingkiller5325it’s a possibility Islam might still exist seems how most of judaism believers believe Jesus would return ( unlike Orthodox Judaism ).
@@kingkiller5325 more likely islam didn't mention jesus
@@davedaves3489 western wall?
Shouldn't hunanity be 1,000 years more advanced? Right Family Guy writers?
When has Family Guy ever been consistent?
@@Ronin.SamuraiWhen it's about shitting on Meg
Hmm the atheist has nothing against judaism…
I don’t mind. I mean, Christianity is like a DLC of Judaism. And Islam is a fan made spin-off 🫢🫢🫢🫢
But Judaism isn’t a universalizing/evangelizing religion. Wouldn’t they be Muslim instead?
Or maybe this is because Lois is ethnically Jewish (on her mom’s side, but it’s a matrilineal ethnicity), and they are a Jewish minority in an otherwise Muslim country.
Islam could theoretically still exist but it'd be a bit different with Christianity not existing
Actually I’d think it’d be Roman Paganism tbh. Without Christianity there’s no Islam, bc Jesus is one of the five Prophets of Islam, Muhammad is the final prophet
@@TheOldSalt everything else in the universe’s history is same down to the walls of Stewie’s room, so I think it’s more reasonable to assume Islam would have only 4 prophets in this version
We'd be death already.
Islam probably would not exist without Christianity, and if it did it would end up as a more direct offshoot of Judaism. It's much more likely one of the Roman cults like Mithraism would have come to dominate Europe, or Zoroastrianism. Though without Christianity its also possible that there would be a wide range of Polytheistic beliefs.
Actually since Judaism does not have a strong missionary zeal the top religion probably would have been Islam.
Uh no, not likely. Seems how most of the religions of ancient and medieval times are associated with empires, many of the religions would die as their empires fell. Today, the top faith would be Atheism.
Islam wouldn’t exist the way we know it without Christianity, and to the extent that it would exist it probably wouldn’t spread the same way or extent as Rome would collapse by that time.
@@zombies4evadude24 point is the people who made Islam assuming you don’t believe it came from God put a strong missionary zeal and the concept of having many children to spread the religion so I’m quite sure it would be the dominant faith.Just look at other large religions such as Hinduism they did not care much about converting people for most of their history that is why it exists mostly just in South Asia.
The fact Brian actually thought that to rid of Christianity meant to rid of religion
Brian Griffin is such a hypocrite here.
I don't think so, because Judaism is non-proselytization
Isnt Lois already Jewish ?
In heritage I think, not religion.
Well I’m actually part Jewish
Brian and Stewie previously traveled to a world without Christianity in "Road to the Multiverse".
But Brian is a dog. Why does he need the little hat?
This is incorrect. The word yarmulke wouldnt have been created
Like that would be an Better
Ah, I was hoping Cthulhu worship would replace Christianity…
God bless everyone. ❤🎉
I don’t mind. I mean, Christianity is like a DLC of Judaism. And Eslam is a fan made spin-off 🫢🫢🫢🫢
Edit: For some reason, RUclips doesn’t let me post my comment if I spell Eslam properly 😂