Wow. Q dude. This is one of the most important videos on Commodore history I've ever seen. Seeing the old MOS and Commodore buildings is such a moving experience for a Commodore user and fanboi like me. Thank you and Dr Chris so much for making and sharing this with us.
Both you and Chris do awesome videos and I learn a lot from them. This was a nice treat being able to see both the old Commodore offices(even if from outside) and MOS factory. Living here in Australia, this is my way of living vicariously through you guys. Thankyou.
I've been a follower of your channel from the very beginning. It's nice to see that there is still a living Amiga community elsewhere in the world. Your videos are always very interesting and informative. I did a similar road trip with some friends a few years ago. We live in Braunschweig / Brunswick where there was a German Commodore factory and the Amiga 2000 was developed and manufactured for a while. Some of the buildings are still standing but have been converted. The new owner has even set up a permanent exhibition where you can find out about the historical site. I still have a first generation Amiga 2000 “Made in West Germany”, which is still running. Keep up the good work with your videos.
There's a special kind of feeling seeing the birthplace of something MOS/CSG and Amiga. I went to Silicon Valley a couple of years ago and on my visit, I went to look at (from the sidewalk)) the HP garage, I saw the Google garage (RIP Susan Wojcicki), Xerox Parc and Steve Job's garage. The emotional effect these visits have, walking on hallowed ground as it were, is very strong. It's veryt important to not forget how we got to to being a technical species in the present day.
3:11 - “I’m gonna throw it up here.” That’s either an unfortunate choice of words, or the place has an attached Vomitorium. Which would be super swanky.
What, no video or story of the speed bump of death that was dislodging all the CPUs when the shipping trucks went over them? I'm pretty sure this was the factory. Good times!
Thank you Dr. Chris and Q, I enjoyed every minute of this! To visit the factories was very unexpected and a great surprise! Thank you very much and have a great day!
It's fun looking at NINE DIGITS of "Other Mem" at 4:50 and thinking how colossal that amount of memory is - until my brain snaps back to the current era where my 3 year old phone has that much.
I remember seeing a guru meditation error on the Flint Comcast cable system. I think they had a public access van with an Amiga and Genlock on board. Going back before Amiga, I once saw an Atari 8 bit screen on the guide channel. Like Amiga, the Atari 8 bit machines used a clock derived from the NTSC or PAL color clock.
Thanks Q. Another Australian so yes thank you for the tour. I 'think' I can recognise the outside of the building Commodore from Dave Haynie's video. I can certainly visualise the speed humps they talk about 😁I wonder how many people a year make a tour to this place just like you two did. You'd have to take a selfie with that Amiga sticker....... it would be obligatory? I also like seeing these relaxed and behind the scenes videos with Dr Chris.......... did I miss the reason behind Q as the name?
It’s fun hanging with Chris when we’re just both checking stuff out. I don’t think i’ve made a video yet about how I got my nic name. I only hinted at it in this one. ;)
You never know! I still like to think I’ll make over there one day. Enjoy poorly produced, under produced content to fill the need until then! :) Thank you!
Wow - amazing - what a great video - thanks to you both for taking time to record all of this! Was the commodore office the same location as where Chris used to work?
Those bridges look like they cross over the Susquehanna river- around columbia, PA? I know Dr C is around the York area nearby, and you had to go East to Philly burbs. You 2 are like the Amiga Thelma and Louise (male version)
Nice to see where the C= and MOS buildings were and how they are holding up, at least the Commodore building has been repurposed. As for the monitor, I don't anyone that touches them anymore because they are so dangerous.
@@HoldandModify The broken 1084s will make a lovely paper weight until you can find someone to fix it. If I find someone I’ll let you know. I have three monitors so when one of them goes I’ll need some to fix it, unless I attempt it. I am taking an advanced electronics course so maybe when I’m done I’ll know what I’m doing. 😀
That static noise could be the high V on the tube leaking aka bad tube. To discharge the high V use a flat screwdriver and a alligator clip wire to ground. Slip the driver under the anode cap on tube that will discharge tube
Bustest chip is slow @7:53 because the workbench screen is already eating up a lot of bandwidth from the chip mem. Run bustest chip from no startup-sequence and you'll get much better results, writel and writem should hit the maximum 7MB/sec.
@@HoldandModify GMT Microelectronics operated on the site from 1995 to 2000, it was a management buyout. There is a rumor that they had a bunch of commodore 65's still there when the site was cleared a few years ago, which ended up in a skip. They were going for something like 50k each at the time.
Your chip speed results for rhay PiStorm seem alot slower they should be. Improvements were made there quite some rime ago. I have tagged tou in a post on rhe PiStorm Facebook grouo wirh an example screenshot
Maybe someone like Elon Musk could buy the factory and build a new Commodore factory and bring a new very powerful Amiga computer out again. Imagine a 6502 or 68k cpu at 4-5nm heh....
Wow.
Q dude. This is one of the most important videos on Commodore history I've ever seen.
Seeing the old MOS and Commodore buildings is such a moving experience for a Commodore user and fanboi like me.
Thank you and Dr Chris so much for making and sharing this with us.
Glad those places are still around to be filmed. It’s a special thing. Thanks for checking it out and your comment. HEARD!
@@HoldandModify Don't you mean Herd? 🤣
Both you and Chris do awesome videos and I learn a lot from them. This was a nice treat being able to see both the old Commodore offices(even if from outside) and MOS factory. Living here in Australia, this is my way of living vicariously through you guys. Thankyou.
Glad to get you some footage! Thank you! We’re a fun and neat group. All of us! I got a big kick out of seeing it.
I've been a follower of your channel from the very beginning. It's nice to see that there is still a living Amiga community elsewhere in the world. Your videos are always very interesting and informative. I did a similar road trip with some friends a few years ago. We live in Braunschweig / Brunswick where there was a German Commodore factory and the Amiga 2000 was developed and manufactured for a while. Some of the buildings are still standing but have been converted. The new owner has even set up a permanent exhibition where you can find out about the historical site. I still have a first generation Amiga 2000 “Made in West Germany”, which is still running. Keep up the good work with your videos.
Oh wow! That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing and I had no idea about that. Glad they still acknowledge what it was.
Love your videos. Fantastic seeing the MOS and old Commodore building's.
That’s great! thank you. i really dug seeing it in person!
Love Amiga road trips🎉🍻
Great video, so cool, thank you!! High five that badass amiga gangster Chris!! We amiga heads salute you both!!
Woohoo! thank you!
There's a special kind of feeling seeing the birthplace of something MOS/CSG and Amiga. I went to Silicon Valley a couple of years ago and on my visit, I went to look at (from the sidewalk)) the HP garage, I saw the Google garage (RIP Susan Wojcicki), Xerox Parc and Steve Job's garage. The emotional effect these visits have, walking on hallowed ground as it were, is very strong. It's veryt important to not forget how we got to to being a technical species in the present day.
3:11 - “I’m gonna throw it up here.”
That’s either an unfortunate choice of words, or the place has an attached Vomitorium. Which would be super swanky.
hahahah…. how did i miss my own epic joke!?!
@@HoldandModify I thought you made it intentionally, it was kinda... well, you.
hahah it’s my subconscious knowing me better than me!
Came here for this comment.
What, no video or story of the speed bump of death that was dislodging all the CPUs when the shipping trucks went over them? I'm pretty sure this was the factory. Good times!
Correct! Sorry. heh
I was thinking the same thing! There should be a plaque there commemorating this very poignant piece of tech history.
Ohhhh, do tell. We need deets! All my searchs end up with Holden Commodore automobile videos with speed bumps. (That car is from down undah)
Thank you Dr. Chris and Q, I enjoyed every minute of this! To visit the factories was very unexpected and a great surprise! Thank you very much and have a great day!
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for your long time support too!
thank booth of you 🙏
You are welcome and thank you for checking it out!
It's fun looking at NINE DIGITS of "Other Mem" at 4:50 and thinking how colossal that amount of memory is - until my brain snaps back to the current era where my 3 year old phone has that much.
hahaha yup!
I remember seeing a guru meditation error on the Flint Comcast cable system. I think they had a public access van with an Amiga and Genlock on board. Going back before Amiga, I once saw an Atari 8 bit screen on the guide channel. Like Amiga, the Atari 8 bit machines used a clock derived from the NTSC or PAL color clock.
Good old Michigan. A huge Amiga and yes even Atari market. That’s where my friend and I are from. ;)
Thanks Q. Another Australian so yes thank you for the tour. I 'think' I can recognise the outside of the building Commodore from Dave Haynie's video. I can certainly visualise the speed humps they talk about 😁I wonder how many people a year make a tour to this place just like you two did. You'd have to take a selfie with that Amiga sticker....... it would be obligatory? I also like seeing these relaxed and behind the scenes videos with Dr Chris.......... did I miss the reason behind Q as the name?
It’s fun hanging with Chris when we’re just both checking stuff out. I don’t think i’ve made a video yet about how I got my nic name. I only hinted at it in this one. ;)
Love the new intro! Also, amazing video! 🙂
Sweet glad you dig! Thanks!
Happy to be here and taken along for the ride, as the chances of me crossing that big pond and seeing any of it for myself is pretty low.
You never know! I still like to think I’ll make over there one day. Enjoy poorly produced, under produced content to fill the need until then! :) Thank you!
Where was the store in garden city, I remember going to a few there. Mostly for C64 stuff in mid to late 80s.
Across the street from the High School. “Computer Link.”
@@HoldandModify I'm sure that's it. Wanted to say middlebelt or merriman.
The 1084s made great toaster monitors.
This reinforces why I take my 1084's to a local electronics guy I found and pay him 100 bucks to service it. No risk of me dying.
Yes sadly we don’t have any where I live in the middle of nowhere.
Wow - amazing - what a great video - thanks to you both for taking time to record all of this! Was the commodore office the same location as where Chris used to work?
he did go there now and then, but he worked at a remote repair facility one of their many official repair facilities
"We ate a lot of, let me just throw up for you" Yeah, that means puke.
What’s funny is I didn’t realize that’s what I said. At the time.
NOBODY loves Windows the way Amiga fans love Amiga
FACT!
Those bridges look like they cross over the Susquehanna river- around columbia, PA? I know Dr C is around the York area nearby, and you had to go East to Philly burbs. You 2 are like the Amiga Thelma and Louise (male version)
lol! One day we might make a video of us driving off a cliff with a car full of Amigas. ;)
thanks alot!!
You are welcome! Glad you found it interesting.
Thanks Q!
You bet!
Nice to see where the C= and MOS buildings were and how they are holding up, at least the Commodore building has been repurposed. As for the monitor, I don't anyone that touches them anymore because they are so dangerous.
Yeah at least old CBM is still there for another. 1084s breaks my heart but oh well. Thanks for watching!
@@HoldandModify The broken 1084s will make a lovely paper weight until you can find someone to fix it.
If I find someone I’ll let you know.
I have three monitors so when one of them goes I’ll need some to fix it, unless I attempt it. I am taking an advanced electronics course so maybe when I’m done I’ll know what I’m doing. 😀
Dr Chris previously did a video touring these 2 properties.
He did. He wanted to go back and he wanted to give me a tour too! He’s a great guy!
Nostalgia!
Subbed :)
That’s makes me warm and fuzzy! I have piles of videos you can go through too…. if you like. :)
nice, should visit 3350 Scott Blvd, Santa Clara, CA 95051, Amiga old HQ.
When i lived in Los Angeles that might have been a bit easier. heh!
AmiTote!
It’s a neat thing!
If you don't know the history of the chemical soup pond, then you really need to read Brian Bagnell's books on Commodore.
That static noise could be the high V on the tube leaking aka bad tube. To discharge the high V use a flat screwdriver and a alligator clip wire to ground. Slip the driver under the anode cap on tube that will discharge tube
We are not going to mess with it anymore. Just out of our comfort zone. Thank you though.
Is it possible to go inside the MOS building or is it all boarded up?
it’s locked up and they’ve placed boards over all the doors from the inside too. :/
@@HoldandModify oh can you please make a video with you two guys breaking in? It would get a lot of views
@sacredbanana Lol! I’ve seen that horror film/game too many times. It never works out well for the folks going in.
@@HoldandModify Well played sir 🤣
Bustest chip is slow @7:53 because the workbench screen is already eating up a lot of bandwidth from the chip mem.
Run bustest chip from no startup-sequence and you'll get much better results, writel and writem should hit the maximum 7MB/sec.
i’ve heard this from others. Will find a try.
Mos facility was used after commodore went bankrupt as a chip fab, but eventually the epa closed them down.
oh? Good info, thanks!
@@HoldandModify GMT Microelectronics operated on the site from 1995 to 2000, it was a management buyout. There is a rumor that they had a bunch of commodore 65's still there when the site was cleared a few years ago, which ended up in a skip. They were going for something like 50k each at the time.
1988 I had the OG 500 with the 1 meg expansion and replaced in 1992 it with the A1200 until it was replaced with the PS1 in 1998
I had a sort of similar path myself. No 1200, an A3000 but then a PS1 and a Pc.
@@HoldandModify Aye, I went PC circa 2000 and never went back.
Where in the US is the MOS building? NY or PA?
PA
I wonder, what the Q-Continuum would say about this 😅
hah!
Your chip speed results for rhay PiStorm seem alot slower they should be. Improvements were made there quite some rime ago.
I have tagged tou in a post on rhe PiStorm Facebook grouo wirh an example screenshot
Thank you. Would love to sort it out!
Maybe someone like Elon Musk could buy the factory and build a new Commodore factory and bring a new very powerful Amiga computer out again. Imagine a 6502 or 68k cpu at 4-5nm heh....
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Whoa hey! Thanks! I forgot this was even a feature! Super cool of you!
Send the monitor to Adrian Black instead.
I drove to Pa from Sc as it’s cheaper than shipping one. :)
First
Almost! :)
looks allot like some shitty old abandoned building
It’s like me. Old and busted, but an interesting back story.