Impressed! - Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT Pizza Cutter 35” Review
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- First 1000mi of road and 100 of abusive off-road use discussed. These are the best AT tires money can buy! Check out my review of the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT Pizza Cutter 35” tires. Find out why these tires outperform the competition in every category, including road noise and durability. Don't forget to subscribe for more exciting reviews and updates!
They were like tank treads in the snow off-road man. I am in Colorado too, and there was about 4” of packed snow on north sloped 4wd trails where I hunted above 10,000’ just over a week ago. I was super impressed. I don’t think they have gotten the hype they deserve (yet).
What size rims are those? 8” or 8.5”
8.5”, which is technically .5” too wide on the spec sheets, but I spoke with both MT and Method and they said it’s fine. They mounted easy and have plenty of bulge to protect the rim
@@Wallymakesstuff this is what I wanted to hear! I really want to run these tires, but don’t want to change rims right now.
If you pause at the 1:08 mark you can see on the inner lug that the siping is casting a shadow, might be time for an alignment. Thanks for the good videos on the Baja Boss A/T it will probably be the next set of tires i get.
Impressive eyes my friend! Turns out I had worn lca bushings and couldn’t get proper alignment. I replaced the lca’s shortly after this video. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the review. I just had a set put on my 22 Tacoma off-road a couple days ago. Its been a dry Autumn in the central Colorado mtns so I'm really itching to take them out in the snow. So far they handle really well on dry pavement and on a few BLM roads. These tires will no doubt exceed my off road requirements but I chose them over the other AT hybrids for their reported winter handling.
What load range and size were you able to get? I’m looking to put 255/85R16 on my ‘23 Tacoma TRD OR and stock height. I’m looking for Load Range C rating.
Agreed. They are getting great reviews but you have to dig for them. Many off roaders will say other brands like Toyo and the BFG KO2's will plow through snow but it wont matter if your truck looses it on the turns. It takes a lot of confidence in a concept and your engineering to offer something so different than the competition. Its as if they know I might have to take I-70 in a blizzard to get to my favorite off road spot.
Yeah I think a lot of the opinions of the other options are confirmation bias, and rightfully so - all terrain tires keep getting better and better so if you went from an old version of an AT tire to a new one, it would be easy to think there’s no way it can get better, but it does….
Yeah I’m switching to these from bfg km3s, they were great in the snow but not on the icey roads. Excited to see how the mickeys handle
Believe the hype. I have had mine for 2 years on my 4Runner and they are still great after 25,000 miles. Had Grabbers before and they were ok on road but nowhere near as good off road or in snow. I do rotate them every 5000 miles and they are still amazingly quiet. Quieter than the Grabbers with 18,000 miles on them. Upped from 32's to 33's. Buy them you won't be dissapointed.
I have a set of these, 235/75 15 on my Suzuki Sidekick. I love them.
I bet that looks sick! Sidekicks are so cool.
@Wallymakesstuff it's getting there. I put 5 American racing wheels on it, baja's, and I just ordered a set of pro shocks 2.5 lift springs and shocks
That is so cool! Do you have any links to see it?
Great no BS review. Just bought a set for my Trail Boss. Waiting for them to arrive and install in a couple of days.
You’re going to love them!
Mickey Thompson’s Are Made In America is a big reason i want them!.. The only downside I’ve heard is they have had to use more balance weights then usual for the first run of them!
Totally, and I’m surprised I didn’t mention that in the video. Fortunately there’s a lot of made in USA top tier tires out there.
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I just purchased some Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T in 35x12.5x17 for my 2019 Ford Raptor.
I still have to do a chalk test but am currently running 40 psi in the front and 38 psi in the rear.
I have had mine for 2 years and 25K miles. Great tires, way better than the General Grabbers I had. Still fairly quiet and plenty of tread left. Snow, rain, mud all good. Upped from 32's to 33's. Buy them great tires!
I ran grabbers last time too and completely agree! Surprising how comfortable they drive considering how capable they are. I’ll be doing an update once I get a bit more miles on them 👍👍
Great video- straight to the point. Thanks for your feedback!
You’re welcome and thanks for watching!
Great review. I'm in Northern Wisconsin and have been looking into these on my 5th Gen 4R.
These are quality tires… I love the skinny’s.. but offer a pretty wide range of sizes.. Worth it..
Yes absolutely
Glad to hear they preform great in the snow, I'm due for new rubber and am looking at these for the upcoming winter in MN
most all-terrain tires don't have enough siping for snow traction which is a must up here
they look great on your truck too, I hope they don't look too aggressive on my stock Dakota
Thanks for the comment. I think they’ll look great on any truck. Siping is really deep on these, I think you’ll love them.
Yes the increase weight affect stop and go, while the lower rolling resistance of the narrower contact patch will reduce the friction increasing MPG’s on the highway.
What load range are your tires?
Yep that’s what I’ve experienced after 10k mi still. E rated tires.
I love my baja boss ats.
Best AT tire ever made
MT recommended 6.5 to 8” wheel width for that tire size, the Method 705 is 8.5. Any issues/concerns
I had the same concern, so I called Method and Mickey Thompson first and they both said it would be just fine. It does work just fine and not even an issue with mounting it normally either. There’s still enough sidewall bulge to protect the rim also.
@@Wallymakesstuffthank you for the verification. That was my concern
You’re welcome. It’s a great combo!
@@Wallymakesstuff I know you're on beadgrips which might make it a non issue, but have you ever aired down aggressively? I'm sure aired up they're a non issue, but was just concerned about 8" tire on an 8.5 while aired down
@@gwotsince this video I ran them aggressively on steep rocky terrain at 25 psi with a full haul in the back, and at 8 psi on snow with no issues. I’d imagine it has to do with tall sidewalks making the tire wider as you air down. I’d imagine it’s not safe with no profile type tires.
How are they on wet pavement as far as grip goes, and do they hydroplane much compared to the others? I’m looking to get a good set of a/t tires that isn’t utter crap in the wet lol. Might do an off-road trip once a month so for me in the PNW, it’s wet road performance is a big deal.
Hydroplane resistance is really good from my experience, probably due to the deep tread when they’re new, but as with any tire that doesn’t have defined hydro channels, I’d expect that to degrade as the tread wears down. Grip on hard braking wet roads seemed about the same as my experience with the last two tires I’ve run (general grabber atx, and Toyo open country at2). I would also look at the cooper at4 xlt if road performance is your main goal, but wouldn’t expect them to shed mud as well or be as durable with rocks and such. Always a trade off!
Better than ko2 so yeh they’re pretty good in the wet
The tread pattern is similar to the Dunlop Road Gripper F.
I think Mickey Thompson and Dunlop are both owned by Goodyear, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they share ideas between brands
@wk7488 mickey thompson is owned by cooper tire and cooper is now owned by bfg
@@LeadSlinger-kj3je You are 100% incorrect.
@@LeadSlinger-kj3je I thought cooper is owned by Goodyear?
How about the balance issue , I has general grabber ATX for 9 months 10 times balanced
I had the grabbers and had a few balance issues but it was always resolved. I recently changed my lower control arms and wheels and that resolved what I thought was minor balance issues. Turns out it was warped wheels and worn out bushings in my lca. The MT’s drive very balanced for me, however with the aggressive tread, you do feel slight vibrations at low speed on pavement, which is normal for a tire like this.
I had the same issue with my Grabber ATX’s…I wanted to love ‘em but had them replaced by KO2’s and had 59k of great luck with those.
Almost went k02 for the better sidewalls this time until I found the Baja boss. I’d be curious to see someone do a long term use comparison between the two
Just bought 35 x12.5 xr17s my tire shop put in balance beads with no weights. Drove about 3 hours on the highway today and city driving and no balance issues! On a 17 wrangler.
So annoyed that they don't make these in 35 skinnies for 16" rims
It’s a new tire, hopefully they’ll increase the different sizes they make. 33” pizza cutters would be nice too
Anybody know anything about the SPORT KING A/T ??? My 20yr old truck I got “very lightly” used little over 4 yrs ago has them and the internet has turned up very little information. Best I can tell they are as old as the truck! I am very seriously looking at these Baja Boss tires but I really can’t afford making my gas mileage worse! With the 285/75 16 SPORT KING AT I’m lucky to get 11/12 mpg. What I would like to know is details like the weight of these old tires, I am loving everything I am seeing on the Baja boss but have concern on the weight (if it’s even extra, for all I know the existing setup could be about the same)
I’d bet your old ones are heavier. They used to use steel belted sidewalls, whereas now it’s a heavy duty nylon stitch. The Baja boss is pretty heavy for a modern AT tire though, because it’s built like an MT. That said, if you stick with a similar size and/or go narrower like I did, you may have a better chance or even better mpg.
These ones or the new falken Wildpeak at4 35 11.50 17? ?? What's pols call on these also like 300 bucks against almost 400 each???
Tough for me to say, haven’t looked into the at4. When I researched the at3, these were far more durable in the sidewalls and more off-road oriented than the falken. I paid $350 each for these.
I'm having to make the decision on a build for pizza cutter or not ... Rim is like yours Method 705 .... I'm very very concerned about puting a 7" lip to lip tire on a 8/5 inch rim. What did Method tell you on this again and how is it going a few years later?
I called and asked them, and Mickey Thompson. Both agreed it was fine. No problems mounting and it still has plenty of bulge to protect the rim.
Good video but no reference to the tire in the notes.
Would like to know how many miles you can get out of em
Yeah me too lol! I have about 8k on them and they still look like new. Stay tuned, I’ll be doing a 10k update and will include tread depth measurements
How do they do in the rain? Also do you like the beadgrips so far?
I’ve only had them on wet ground a couple times and no downpour. Grip felt great and I’d imagine they will resist hydroplaning really well with the wide deep treads
Did you regear? Did you see performance issues? Loss of power?
Didn’t regear. I was really worried that I would have since I have the 4.6. Power feels about the same believe it or not… but I also dropped total overall pounds. I was running 33” grabber atx at 61# each and factory rims at 33# each and the methods come in at 25#, Baja boss at 63#. So despite having less torque in terms of gearing ratio from the larger diameter, the rotational mass dropped. That’s one of the main reasons I went with this setup rather than putting 12.5x35x18 on factory rims.
How much lift and did you have to do any trimming?
3”, no rubbing or cutting even with chains on. I could easily clear 37” with this setup. I can’t vouch for it with a factory bumper though - the one I have (road armor) provides extra clearance. And the offset of my rims at 0 also helps a lot. Bumper and wheel offset are equally important as lift.
Hey brother, looking in to getting these tires for my 3rd gen tundra. But Mickey Thompson recommends putting these tires on 8 inch wide wheels, are you running 8 or 8.5 with these tires?
Just saw you answered this question below.
And honestly, they kinda crown a bit even with 8.5” wheels. Idk if that’s by design or what, but I still love em 10k later!
@@WallymakesstuffAwesome, thank you for the reply. I am looking forward to your long term review.
What cold hwy pressures are you running? F & R?
Depends on if I’m hauling, I run 50, or 40 when I’m not. Same, front and rear. Light to moderate off-roading 25psi. I carry a lot of weight in the rear, and I have a heavy front bumper, so I’d go lower if you are running oem without racks, topper, deck, etc.
What off set do you run ? 25 or 35 with those methods?
Zero offset. If I didn’t have the fender flares, I’d probably go with 25
@@Wallymakesstuff i dont have flares as well but going to change my 18x9.5 -18 on 275\70 to 17x8.5 +25 or maybe even +35 i go with 255\85.
Im in between the 25 and 35 now. Not sure what to get and not many people out there with this setup.
I’ll say, the wider you go, the better it handles. I didn’t bbeven expect that. With my ~2.5” lift, zero offset made it handle much more level.
With this tire did ur speedometer was off?
Not too bad. It’s about 8% off, which also needs to be accounted for with MPG. So I just keep it 5mph under what speed I want to be going at freeway speeds. In town it’s not enough to make a difference.
Manufactured by Goodyear. Parent company of MT is Cooper, but Cooper is owned by Goodyear. So saying MT knows how to make a tire is a bit disingenuous.
do you think that once Goodyear buys an established company (cooper), then immediately down the entire line to Mickey is now manufactured by Goodyear?! Sure, hate on Goodyear, but that doesn't automatically make MT crap by your standards.
Did you happen to run them through any loose sand?
Man that’s probably the only surface I haven’t run them through yet. Not much sand in Colorado.
Got it, i’m pretty sure I’m going switch over to the pizza cutter tires, but I do like to run the beaches from time to time so I was wondering if I am going to degrade Performance on that surface.
Thank you!
I think if you air down enough you’re fine. Tinkerers Adventure did a surface area test and the pizza cutters were nearly the same as a wider 35” at low psi
@@Wallymakesstuff Thank you. I saw that, and that video tilted the scales for me to lean in that direction. Thanks again!
I just put a set of the pizza cutters on my ‘22 Bronco and have been impressed on trails and rocks so far. And the road noise is quite low, too. Snow will arrive in Eastern Washington Sonny’s, and I expect good performance there, too. My only concern is the rarity of these in case I need to get one replaced while on a trip.
At's Mickey's have better treads than a lot of mid range/low range MT's and RT's tyres.
For sure. Totally agree, plus better siping for snow, quieter, and smoother riding.
Skinny will always ride better. Wide tires don't do much besides cost you more money and screw up the ride. More rolling resistance, worse MPG, and more expensive. Wides have a slight advantage in sand.
Totally agree. Hope to see more options in skinny in upcoming years!
wish they werent so damn expensive.
Yeah I hear ya. I spent far more replacing blown sidewall tires with tons of tread with the general grabber atx though.