EVE Online: The New Player’s Path to ISK and Glory in Faction Warfare
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Is PVP and faction warfare in EVE Online only for veteran players? Can new players have a chance at making any isk or even surviving? Today I find out.
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Something you may not have realized: you are using an ancillary armor repairer. These provide more repairs than a regular repairer but must be loaded with nanite paste. They use the paste as "ammo" to provide you with more repairs. They are less effective than regular reps if you don't load them with paste.
Well damn, I did not know that lol
@@bucklinfondueI've been playing since 2006. Even still I still learn things. The game is so deep that there's always something to learn and improve on.
@@MalcolmLionel-cc5dj yep. Every time I think I've got it figured out, I burn out my modules or equip the wrong repairer.
@@bucklinfondue it's the right module, just get paste ;)
7:46 Only a fellow EvE player can really understand this... Adrenaline hits you like a truck, your fingers start smashing buttons, and don't get me going on the shakes... Ugly kill, but absolutely yours.. Gratz.
It was full of mistakes and most would be embarrassed. But I'm damn proud.
righteous!
hey bud, some tips:
When engaging a missile ship in a gunship, you are best offensively keeping at range at optimal, defensively orbiting is possible (but you will lose accuracy) if they're in a bigger missile boat, orbit.
when fighting ships with longer range or bigger weapons, generally orbit. When engaging ships with shorter range weapons, generally keep at range.
Approaching a ship puts you right in their face, but that means that any move you or they make, any bumping or shifting around will greatly put your turret tracking to the test . It's like hitting a target going 2 meters per second at 30 meters away with a sniper vs hitting a target going 1 meter per second running around you point blank in a circle. Slower, but much harder to hit.
Webifiers are very similar to afterburners in purpose if you are both scrammed. One doubles your speed, one halves their speed. Afterburners are better for range control, webifiers are better for weapon precision (usually) but both do both.
Keep in mind that if you are using a afterburner + short range guns, you are dead against a long range ship 90% of the time. Somethime what you can do is Mwd + AB + scrambler: the MWD allows you to get in range, the scram keeps them in range along with the afterburner, and the afterburner gives you additional CQB defence by being harder to hit in orbit (remember, I said orbit against longer range guns).
You are using an ancillary armor repairer, which ***unlike other armor repairer types*** is especially effective when paired with armor plates and damage controls.
Armor plates are about finite but powerful tank, which is what the ancillary armor repairer is also for (because it needs to reload paste) whereas normal repairers are for prolonged engagements generally, which plates are generally not.
DPS rigs are usually a waste IMO, but you use them well here. never use a DPS rig if you have two damage modules or more in the lowslots except for specialized ships like suicide gankers. Consider armor rigging as well, or even speed rigs.
When using lasers, especially pulse, stroooongly consider getting them to tech 2 for Scorch crystals.
you did great.
Thank You! This was VERY well explained. I'll take all the help I can get.
Single ancillary reps should generally be calculated and treated as buffer not repairs. Total rep amount for your first clip (until first reload) added to your EHP.
Due to long reload time unless you have multiple ancil reps and stagger them so ones reloading while ones being used then their essentially just buffer.
Nice video a few tips you can use all ammunitions with T2 guns t1, t2, and faction in some cases it may be better to use some imperial navy ammo for better range or tracking depending on the situation. The LP payouts for the sites is based on what type of faction warfare system your in front line pays the most and it goes down the further you get from the front line also advanced sites will pay more but will allow T2 ships to enter. The other thing that affects LP payout is if the site is a -1 or -5 site if it’s -1 site only one person will get the full LP payment if there is more then 1 it will be split, the -5 sites up to 5 people can get the full amount before it gets split. When you overheat modules the heat damage will spread to other modules in the same rack and spread faster the more heat that builds up that can be reduced with the thermodynamics skill. Last I saw someone post already but you need nanite repair paste for your armor rep to be fully effective you can set auto reload to off and when it uses up all the paste it will still keep cycling just with reduced reps. You can also use nanite repair paste to repair heat damage on modules if they are not fully burned out and not being used.
Thank you! That's all extremely helpful.
Grats on the kill, nice one too. That kestrel could’ve easily kited you and killed you. Good job overheating to catch him. Speaking of overheating, I would train the thermodynamics skill to 5 pretty soon as it helps with heat damage a bunch. Nice video :)
Great vid, PvP never gets old, 1v1 against an equally equipped opponent is where it’s at. I started playing this game in 2003.. I know lol. There were two PvP corps you could join called Red and Blue. You joined one or the other. They were permanently at war, Frigates only. You could get a fight anywhere. Lost count of how many times I died or got kills. Iirc it was quite sportsmanlike usually 1v1 even if you were with a corpmate. They acted like seconds in a duel. It was a great way to get accustomed to PvP . Stood me in good stead for years.
watching his excitement when he says" and I won!!"
that was so wholesome
I am only 7 months into my EvE journey and I love this. Please keep going and don't get discouraged ! As a FW Angel Pilot, and now living in NS with my small (50~) corp. I love it, it's great. Hope to see you soon my friend o7 it'd be a fun fight Bucklin.
Hope to see you out there as well.
Nice work! I see others have already pointed out some of the mistakes you made, but you also did a lot of things right, it could easily have gone the other way if you didn't grab him fast enough.
If you have any other pointers I'll happily take them.
@@bucklinfondue I think the only one I didn't see mentioned was you webbed him before you scrammed him, if they decided not to take the fight and are trying to warp out this can result in you webbing them into warp so, if possible, it's best to land the scram first.
Great video! I also just tried out FW about a week ago. The LP payout is insane. Made about 100k+ LP in an hour in a frigate, turned that into about 150 mil ISK off a navy battleship blueprint manufacture. But no kill so far lol. Keep the vids coming!
I also just started last night, do you then try and sell the blueprint for isk?
@@Lonewolf.wildcamping you could! But you usually (not always) get more by crafting the item. Take the navy battleship example. Selling the blueprint is about 80 mil of profit, but making and selling the ship can be up to 150 mil depending on where you make it. Just NOT Jita lol
@@joefernandez8251 ooh good to know, that’s cool. Thanks.
I just found you on RUclips. I LOVE your videos. I’m gonna show as many people as I can
@@Crosstowndonkey that's awesome! Thanks.
Great video! I suggest you assigning hotkeys for modules you use and for overheating them. That way you can manage them easier. Fly safe o/
Thanks. I'm slowly learning on the go.
Pro tip: as someone who has been doing FW for a little while I highly recommend using faction frigs they deal more damage and have more fitting options as well as more tank.
I'm thrice bro's age in the game and he's gotten a fw kill before me. Nice kill, hope to be as lucky as you soon
Holding shift toggles overheat. So you can either hold shift + click the module. Or hold shift + press the keybind. It will toggle overheat on/off for that module. Also you can “pre-heat” them by just overheating them while the module is not active(while your sliding into the site) then the second you land just press your AB and it will activate overheated. Just play around with the buttons and key binds and you’ll see!
That's great advice! I thought those little buttons were a nightmare to push while shaking with nerves lol
A tip for dscan, narrow the range to like 45 degrees or less, and point your screen in the direction the acceleration gate is pointing towards to see exactly what's inside and not potentially pick up something else around you that could also be close. You could pick up 3 ships on dscan, but really only 1 is inside.
Additionally, you can reverse this practice.. keep in mind the direction you flew into from as you can narrow your dscan down to just the acceleration gate to prevent false-positive scans. Aligning to the gate can help you in the event you forgot what direction you came in from. And yes, choosing 1 and only 1 ship to master will definitely help in the long run. Especially fun when it's not a Faction ship and you become known as "that guy that's hella good with (x ship)". Crucifier used to be my baby. :D
In rust we trust. Minmatar has some of my most favorite ships.
0:57
Benzie would not like that
Haha😂
Option still open to join my amarr faction warfare and nullsec corp :)
hey, I just noticed you're also in Absolute Order lol. Start focus on the Fatherland Doctrine skills so you can join us with some capital and large fleet action!
I may be a ways from capitals haha.
@@bucklinfondue Same here lol. But we run a Ferox and an Eagle wing when we do large fleet action, and you should be pretty close to what you need for the Ferox skills at least. If you're only a few skills off I can contract you a large injector to finish off those timers so you can get in on the action for some content bro.
AO members generally are not bad but General Lee has so many other options to run a authoritarian fascist regime but he still goes the nazi route, among some other bad things.
Fuck absolute order 🤗🤗
Dont forget to up your thermodynamic skills to get more out of overheatimg modules
Ah, Ardar, my pvp "youth" was there.
Great video!
-Another beginner capsuleer
May we learn from each other's mistakes.
This made me want to try FW
It's really great. And not as scary as I thought.
Definetly do it. Its fun and great isk(can speak only for Calmil and Guristas) at once.
If your interested in joining an Amarr Militia Corp / Alliance or just have some general questions feel free to reach out to Jennifer Corring in game. We have Corps for several timezones and would be happy to help! We've held the top 3 active members in the militia fairly consistently, so plenty of people to fly with!
Well done and fly safe capsuleer!
FOR THE GLORY OF AMARR...😁
God Wills It!
FW is not good for isk, specially if you cannot fight and win vs people 1v1 cuz u dont have skillpoints. You will be lucky sometimes and not get harrased but most of the time your gonna be warping in and out of 1 single 30 million complex for a whole hour, to end up dieing to someone predicting your jump, or just give up and go to another, and remember even if there is 1 second left, you dont get anything from it. And thats removing the gatecamping factors or simply no sites to do, because they dont respawn instantly
Also there are A LOT of people specifically hunting new players fits just to kill the game faster, they dont get anything doing it, people dont even fight back, but is the internet and u find people that cant win at life winning in games vs ppl that cant fight them
lol preference on an empire was my first thought when i started playing 6 years ago, then i paid the price for it. Alavis Vaille
simply love the video👍
Thanks
haha oh man you're better at pvp than i am and i started playing before you!
I don't know. I just found out I literally had the wrong armor repairer, didn't know tech 2 guns could use other ammo and burnt out my own fitting. But I appreciate it.
Congrats
I have been playing for the last couple of months. Have not made it to solder of fortune. Though TBH I am ikn the middle of a move and trying to sell my house. So Yeah Thus not moving as rapidly through the career paths. Gallente . What I want to do is mine and do some exploration on the side. But that is me.
That's what I like about this game. You can take any path you like and take it at whatever pace you like.
I just recently did a move a few months ago. I feel your pain.
Use paste for your ancyl armor rep
I am slowly learning from many, many mistakes.
FW plexes are not instanced, by the way.
Those acceleration gates work like instance gates. You can't just warp straight in.
@@bucklinfondue correct, but anyone can. on the other hand, abyssal space is instanced. this is an important distinction that can should be understood to keep yourself safe
@@KyleMaxwell true.
Me personally I dont like the fact that the Amarr has slaves and encourages it
If you look deeper in the lore the minmatar are much much worse, like I cant even say in youtubr without my comment being auto removed 😂 all the factions are almost the opposite of thier public face when digging deeper. Gallente are actually super corrupt and oppressive regime that enforce wrongthink with secret service assassinations and more. Caldari on the surface are a militarist capitalist evil guys, but are the most accepting of any if the races, allowing anyone to become caldari, as well as thier history of oppression under the gallente and consequent civil war. Amarr on the surface are evil slavers, and is partly true but the slavery that amarr has is just like the roman slavery of old, not like American slavery. Amarr slaves are taken to be enslaved for a certain amount of time for religious reasons, then they are able to join the amarr in full, like the khanid, ni-kunni and the ammatar which are minmatar now part of the amarr, each of these peoples went through their own time of being enslaved before joining amarr.
o7
This video is so misleading and a crime to new players.
Minmatar is the BEST faction!
AMARR IS NOT THE BEST FACTION AND MINMATAR IS NOT THE WORST!
Wellllll...
Amarr victor
Amarr is the worst
Blasphemy!
I feel like faction warfare isn't worth it in the slightest. Means less places to dock up and buy stuff.
Yeah. I'm still not really sure how to do that part.
Every faction has a trade hub in thier space though, amarr go to amarr, gallente go to dodixie and so on. And the only militias that cant go to jita are guristas and gallente so not sure what you mean?
@@umadbroimatroll7918 my problem is how do I get them into low security space. Or, do I just got in and out each time
@@bucklinfondue it does take a bit of learning but lowsec is really not that scary, but in faction warefare space there is many contracts for fully fitted ships in the warzone, joining a group also opens up getting free ships, and there is shipping services like pushx, red frog and alliance ones depending on who you join :)
Be careful with faction warfare. You'll lose standings with the empires. Lose too much and you'll be locked out of certain NPC missions and be shot on sight by them if you lose too much standing. Standing takes forever to repair and is often not worth ruining on your main character. Pvp pays hardly anything in the scheme of things and is generally supplemented by another character or account having money to fund it.
you dont lose standings in fw
This is just not true
The 3:15 mark do you even know anything about the game? It doesn't seem so when you are talking about the limited ammo for t2 weapons. This is basics which you are misleading people with your incorrect info.
You can use ALL t1 and faction ammo in t2 weapons plus using t2 ammo. Pick what's best for the given situation
I actually don't know everything about the game. I'm rather new.
This video was never advertised as a guide, it's a new player's experience within FW.
I think you need to train up the Basic Comprehension skill, or hit the market and buy a clue, because you, sir, are clueless...
@@bucklinfondue that much was blatantly obvious when you didnt even know the basics that faction and t1 ammo can be used in t2 weapons.
You really should preface your videos with it because someone who doesnt know is going to listen to your terrible advice and it will mess them up and hinder their advancement in the game.
Guess this is what happens when they let anyone make vids even when they are totally clueless.
you don’t need to use t2 ammo with shittier tracking for t2 guns