I've been playing since 2007, with the vast majority of that time spent as a solo-ish player (i.e. sometimes in a corp but doing my own thing but usually just in my solo corp). Big fan of exploration (whether hacking sites or combat sites) for that purpose, or sometimes market & industry but that requires more consistent attention over time.
@youraveragemetalhead226 it's still risky even with cov ops because other players have cov ops and can jump in on you as well as gate camps being a thing when moving through any security space
You can solo salvage and scavenge in low and null, make sure you have a good cloak, go to where a battle going on and stay hidden and silent, and above all b e patient, then when you see your chance grab some salvage and loot and silently slip out of there like a ghost.
thank you! I earned my first Apocalypse navy through DED hunting, clone soldier, abyss and bounty ratting. I've left pve hunting for the life of a FW junkie but this reminded me of my ol solo days earning the iskies
Hunting escalations is a semi-afk activity. Like mining. Works best with drone boats, with EVE on one screen and whatever else you're doing on another. Multitasking.
How can PVE ever be AFK? I've constantly had to use remote armor reps on my tech II drones to keep them alive in sites. Otherwise, they just get eaten. I mean I can use tech I drones, but then Ammar Drone Specialization V goes to waste...
@@alex_zetsu Wait for the room to redbox you before deploying drones. There's people quite literally spinning 12+ Ishtars at the same time without many issues.
@@alex_zetsu I said escalation hunting i never had any issues in refuge/hideaways ... i warp in, set orbit, release the drones, wait for them to finish ... that's it
@@k0v4c Im really new to the game, when you say escalation hunting, do you mean just from the agency tab and choosing from there? and what kind of ship and drones would you need to be able to go in somewhere and AFK?
I feel like i have a toxic relationship with eve. Kinda like an abusive relationship i come cant get away from. I completely forgot how to play the game but ill hop on every few months and put skills to train and leave and repeat every few months. I can fly just about anything and collected quite a few ships before i stopped playing but every time i log on i dont know what to do or how to make isk.
Hahahaha, you and many others too. Log in, train skills, then try to figure out what weird task I was in the middle of the last time I logged off. Get confused then log back off.
Couple years ago used to hunt Triglavians solo in a Navy Drake. Hit them at 75 km with Heavy missiles and anything that gets thru to 50 km you hit them with the drones.
sounds a bit risky. With naga you bail out at those ranges, reset distance by bouncing to bookmark and back at 100km. There is nothing that could possibly go wrong, right? :)
Too many acronyms and arcane language, so I'll come back when I can understand this better. I suspect it's good advice, but I'm not able to understand it.
I know people like to poo poo on it, but I've been enjoying stomping lvl4 missions in a marauder (thanks to your vids for inspiring me after almost 10 years in game to try it). Now if only i could figure out LP... Either way, i find it fun clapping missions and hoovering loot on the bigger 1-pocket missions!
They worth doing at some point anyway for the standings which will allow you to put a space station in higher lvs of security space if you ever want to
Hi Aceface, on the topic on making ISK... Which ship would you recommend for getting into T4/ T5 Abyssals? I can't decide between Cerberus and Gila. The Cerberus fits you posted seem to be a lot chaper (especially for T5s) than the Gila fits
I do these mostly as an involuntary solo player. I belong to a corp and my corpmates are fine...but my timezone prevents me from joining most fleets/ops.
I remember when Excursions was THE way to earn ISK in High-Sec. Granted, it was a hardcore PvE fleet activity, but it was so fun! I miss TVP and WarpToMe
WTM still exists and you can always join them, I'm planning on getting back in with them for incursions so I've skilled into the vargur because I like using the snipers
to get an escalation in high security space you have to do over 100 sites and you might see two and there's no guarantee the loot is going to be any good at the end of the site either
Hmm, I was up against a clone soldier cruiser (1.75 mil bounty) in 0.1 and I couldn’t take down his armor in that Purifier fit, I got good skills so no problem with the application, do u change fit when up against serpentis clone soldier cruiser?
@@KT-pv3kl Abyssals are setup for a fleet of either 3 frigates, 2 destroyers or 1 cruiser .. if you go in as a solo frigate (you have to use 3 filaments to open the gate) then it populates the loot as if there are 3 players ... vs a solo cruiser which will only require 1 filament and therefore only have loot for 1 player
that really depends on the level, some can be done in frigates, the higher level ones you will need a t3c. my recommendation to ANYONE starting in EVE is join a corp. EVE University is a good corp to start with
So in this game can only look at planets but no walking on them ? When your docked your just stuck in your ship no going into the base to walk around? I have this game sin2020 still can't fly mine exploring and now I warped into a exploding jump gate now I have no ship just a pod. I think I was following a training mission at this point I have no idea. All the font and chat/info text is so small words makes a piss ant look like a giant. People say use the chat help page the font is so small I can't read it. Went into setting and turned the font size up or down really can't tel I'm to dam stubborn to quit been gaming since pong so a life time of gaming .
Since I found your videos I have been picking up on the gaps since coming back to eve, so much appreciation. Still stumped though, atm I'm looking for valid info on whether heavy missiles are still valid with pve when it comes to hubs and havens but there is so much biased of HAM over HM.
Heavy missiles can work fine for pve, but personally I find missiles across the board, less than ideal due to their flight times, as much as I love them! In my personal experience; little comes close to the efficiency of lasers for ratting & I say that as someone who finds artillery/autocannons by far the most engaging weapon types.
This is a how to speak Swahili spoken in Swahili. If you don't already know everything that you are talking about with the terminology that is foreign to noobs, then what possible use could this be? Secondly - its factually incorrect. There are other people at least trying to educate/inform others on how to do stuff in Eve. 400 million isk per hour doing the stuff you talk about is just a lie. What about all the learning you need to get to your level? What about the ship fitting and the shopping for parts? What about the time finding buyers? The time it takes to get everywhere? The time it takes to organize your stuff. What the possibility that things don't go perfectly? What about others that are just there to make sure you have a bad day? Does all this take ZERO seconds for you? The least you could do is be honest about what you are doing even if it is wrong or in a language only you and 500 others know.
You completely missed factional warfare and exploration. You can make 100 mil an hour doing the faction warfare sites with almost no risk in a frigate or desy.
Can you give mor detail on that or link a good resource? I'm always afraid of joining faction warfare, but are interested in trying. Once you join, are you an easy target for all other players, or can you turn it off to pursue other things?
I can’t go to low sec without other players destroying my ships it happens every time. I guess the game is so boring that the only entertainment some people get is by stealing from people. I’m about ready to quit. The developers think playing online with a community of random people is a perk. It’s the worst part of the game. I tried to pass through a lvl 4 security system and got attacked as soon as I got there. Alphas can’t use cloaks so it ruins any opportunity to even bother. If it was possible to turn off PVP I would. So that you are invincible to attack and incapable of attacking other players.
If you want to play solo in EVE just choose empty region in low sec. Avoid populated regions and watch local chat. I played this way and never been destroyed. Now I thinking about doing combat sites in null security.
Low Sec is one of the most dangerous places in Eve if you aren’t part of whatever group occupies the space, especially the border systems to High Sec. By entering Low Sec you have to assume someone is going to try to kill you. PvP is central to Eve’s design so if you play Eve you can’t avoid it entirely and most the time it’s not voluntary for one of the participants. If you aren’t ok with that than it may not be the game for you. However, you can learn to lessen the chances of being caught and killed even in the most dangerous parts of Eve. By watching who comes into local, using DScan to see what ships are around you, learning which systems are more or less active when you play, what ships are best to use to avoid being caught and many more things. Best advice I can give you is if you get caught and aren’t sure how send the hunter a message and say “hey good fight, how did you catch me?” Most will tell you and you can learn and might even make a friend. But if you play Eve you must accept that at some point you will get killed by other players, you will lose ships, potentially a lot of ships depending on what activities you participate in.
in game chat channel: Abyssal Lurkers you will find links there. Don't jump into T3/4 filaments right away, start with lower tiers to learn the basics of environment and npcs
15:53 - suggesting nullsec ratting when ur not in a corp in that region who owns the territory..... what a stupid advice. quickest way you to get ganked...
For two last Hi-Sec DED 5/10 both stolen. The same with scaned 3/10 and 4/10. To be honest I'm more and more dissapointed. CCP disabled plexes for players who got them (or find them) and everyone who scan you with combat probes can stole your own pray. Those burglars in 95% are Russians, for me (time zone) impossible to avoid. For now I login to game once in the week even when I bought the pilot time monthly. There is no chance to get some good money for casual carebear player like me in a Hi-Sec.
oh cool, you can earn ISK... why? literally whats the point? this game has no point whatsoever. too bad the devs aren't smart enough to actually do something with this beautifully visual space shooter.
TIME IS A NON RENEWABLE RESOURCE. You could be gone tomorrow, do not waste it on games like this. In a game where you can just open your wallet and get 400m in seconds, why would you even bother? It's literally a waste of time. If money is a renewable resource and time isn't, why would you waste it on a 20-year-old game that is pay-to-win? Is anyone really having fun grinding for isk? I guess you could look at it that way. Are you having fun doing what you are doing when you know full well someone with more money can just pop in their credit card and get infinitely more than you just earned in your full day of grinding in seconds?
You assume people are measuring their entertainment value by the size of their in-game wallet. Eve is one of the better games re horizontal progression. There are many aspects of play where the biggest most expensive thing does not godhammer everything else. You can pay for ISK but that does not equate to playing to win
@@Mike-ce2nk I stand by my comment. You didn't change my mind. In a game where you can open your wallet and be flying the best ship within an hour, or spend 6 months waiting, is the definition of pay-to-win. Progression skipping is Pay-2-win. Yes, yes. I hear you. "But you are just going to lose that ship." And, yeah. Sure however this shortcut still tilts the game towards pay-to-win dynamics by accelerating progression in a way non-paying players can't match. I could fund 8 accounts, skill them up in certain things and do things a poor person cannot do without doing months of training if not years. It's literally the definition of pay 2 win. You can argue that it's not, but honestly, you can quite as easy shut the fuck up. You ain't changing the definition of pay 2 win. Peace
Aceface gave away his entire 1 trillion fortune a couple of months ago, so he's not that motivated by Isk. I agree with you to a point, isk per hour is a very bad metric to measure your playtime fun. Some people like Eve, other's hate it, each to their own. If you don't like it why comment? There's always going to be someone with more money than you, people with good careers are usually time-poor, so spending their real life money gives them a chance against the no-life basement dwellers who are time rich. The money they spend pays for the game.
Welcome to Modern gaming (even if EvE online is old tho) , its only getting worse from this point. If you have problem with this, i suggest you quit multiplayer gaming and stick with singleplayer titles or find a new hobby
your pronounciation of some of the things from the game are so blurry, I'm lucky there was a list here in comments. Man, open your mouth 🤯- thanks for the video anyway 07
Here are the timestamps for all 5 activities:
0:36 - DED Hunting
4:12 - Abyss
7:15 - Triglavian hunting
10:54 - Clone soldier hunting
14:44 - Null-Sec ratting
this
What does it mean "ratting"? An explanation is possible for players for whom English is not their native language.
@@josephstalin4592 kill npcs they call it ratting
@@kinsgaming8197 big thanks :)
Short for Pi-rates
I've been playing since 2007, with the vast majority of that time spent as a solo-ish player (i.e. sometimes in a corp but doing my own thing but usually just in my solo corp). Big fan of exploration (whether hacking sites or combat sites) for that purpose, or sometimes market & industry but that requires more consistent attention over time.
I've started my career in EVE as an explorer 11 years ago. It's very risky and has a lot of RNG involved, but it's pretty satisfying.
@@IndrasilDesignStudio it's not risky if you're running covert ops/astero
@@youraveragemetalhead226 my fucking ass aint no way an alpha can do that
@youraveragemetalhead226 it's still risky even with cov ops because other players have cov ops and can jump in on you as well as gate camps being a thing when moving through any security space
That's uh...Really interesting...because I too started in 2007....love hacking sites and running combat sites solo...
Question, Do you live in lowsec?
Playing SOLO is appealing to us in mid to late thirties, kids take up a lot of time. Hard to commit to long fleet times when the kids are younger.
CCP is about to shot this video down. You are promoting single account use lmao.
Wait. Ccp supports multi boxing?
Yeah Sure hey Not. A Lot of ppl have more Accounts running at the Same time. U want eyes every where @@Tonytaru
@@Tonytaru yeah its even subtly encouraged in the client. More accounts per player is more revenue.
@@TonytaruYes as long you have omega in all accounts. As an alpha you can only run 1 client
You can solo salvage and scavenge in low and null, make sure you have a good cloak, go to where a battle going on and stay hidden and silent, and above all b e patient, then when you see your chance grab some salvage and loot and silently slip out of there like a ghost.
thank you! I earned my first Apocalypse navy through DED hunting, clone soldier, abyss and bounty ratting.
I've left pve hunting for the life of a FW junkie but this reminded me of my ol solo days earning the iskies
Hunting escalations is a semi-afk activity. Like mining. Works best with drone boats, with EVE on one screen and whatever else you're doing on another. Multitasking.
How can PVE ever be AFK? I've constantly had to use remote armor reps on my tech II drones to keep them alive in sites. Otherwise, they just get eaten. I mean I can use tech I drones, but then Ammar Drone Specialization V goes to waste...
@@alex_zetsu Wait for the room to redbox you before deploying drones. There's people quite literally spinning 12+ Ishtars at the same time without many issues.
@@alex_zetsu I said escalation hunting
i never had any issues in refuge/hideaways ... i warp in, set orbit, release the drones, wait for them to finish ... that's it
@@k0v4c Im really new to the game, when you say escalation hunting, do you mean just from the agency tab and choosing from there? and what kind of ship and drones would you need to be able to go in somewhere and AFK?
@@Beastiejg nah, just set a route with waypoints and do circles. Any drone boat will do, drones autoattack hostiles
I feel like i have a toxic relationship with eve. Kinda like an abusive relationship i come cant get away from. I completely forgot how to play the game but ill hop on every few months and put skills to train and leave and repeat every few months. I can fly just about anything and collected quite a few ships before i stopped playing but every time i log on i dont know what to do or how to make isk.
Just u have DED relationship with eve, get it? Cuz DED...?
1. stop mining 2.find friends 3.have fun 4. ... 5.profit
Hahahaha, you and many others too. Log in, train skills, then try to figure out what weird task I was in the middle of the last time I logged off. Get confused then log back off.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one lol
I wish there were timestamps.
Couple years ago used to hunt Triglavians solo in a Navy Drake. Hit them at 75 km with Heavy missiles and anything that gets thru to 50 km you hit them with the drones.
sounds a bit risky. With naga you bail out at those ranges, reset distance by bouncing to bookmark and back at 100km. There is nothing that could possibly go wrong, right? :)
Too many acronyms and arcane language, so I'll come back when I can understand this better. I suspect it's good advice, but I'm not able to understand it.
How did you go so far?
@@absynthesized89 still at very beginning. Sisters of EVE stuff at them moment. Haven't had a lot of game time lately.
I know people like to poo poo on it, but I've been enjoying stomping lvl4 missions in a marauder (thanks to your vids for inspiring me after almost 10 years in game to try it). Now if only i could figure out LP... Either way, i find it fun clapping missions and hoovering loot on the bigger 1-pocket missions!
It is bit tidous to see what is best for LP trading.
I just save LP to buy modules for my own ships and char.
Google "Star Web LP Store" will help you see what you can spend your LP on with price data similar to something like Janice.
They worth doing at some point anyway for the standings which will allow you to put a space station in higher lvs of security space if you ever want to
@@honeybadger9425 but it doesnt protect you from being wardecd.
Hi Aceface, on the topic on making ISK... Which ship would you recommend for getting into T4/ T5 Abyssals? I can't decide between Cerberus and Gila. The Cerberus fits you posted seem to be a lot chaper (especially for T5s) than the Gila fits
gila is a king of abyss
I've run quite a lot of T5's in the Gila with great success, but I recently switched over to the Ishtar and found it to be generally better.
cerberus is great as well haven't done t5/6 yet but ik a few players who have and prefer it to gila
Any chance of making one for newish players
10 years solo hunting DED in HS and never once got one of these to drop. the chance is like .00001% or something.
thats cap lol. you find them every day so easily. Hell, you can scan systems and youll find one in less than an hour.
I do these mostly as an involuntary solo player. I belong to a corp and my corpmates are fine...but my timezone prevents me from joining most fleets/ops.
You may want to consider joining a different corp.
For the beginners, the first main rule in Eve is DON'T FLY WHAT U CAN'T AFFORD TO LOOSE 😊 its a game really deeeeep
I remember when Excursions was THE way to earn ISK in High-Sec.
Granted, it was a hardcore PvE fleet activity, but it was so fun!
I miss TVP and WarpToMe
WTM still exists and you can always join them, I'm planning on getting back in with them for incursions so I've skilled into the vargur because I like using the snipers
the rampant multibox destroys the game unfortunately, players with 10, 12 or 15 simultaneous accounts
to get an escalation in high security space you have to do over 100 sites and you might see two and there's no guarantee the loot is going to be any good at the end of the site either
damn, i had no idea they are that rare, i legit went and got escalation after doing 5 sites, and now im struggling with getting another escalation
thanks, much appreciated
Hmm, I was up against a clone soldier cruiser (1.75 mil bounty) in 0.1 and I couldn’t take down his armor in that Purifier fit, I got good skills so no problem with the application, do u change fit when up against serpentis clone soldier cruiser?
Any particular reason you use the purifier or can any SB work?
Anyway you could add time stamps to the different ways for a reference point?
how do you get the filaments for opening the abyss? you pay real $$ for them from the in-game shop?
No you get them from other players in the market
T0-T3 you can do in 1 solo frigate, making 3 times the loot as using a cruiser @ the same level.
Why would the same mission give more loot if you use a different ship?
@@KT-pv3kl Abyssals are setup for a fleet of either 3 frigates, 2 destroyers or 1 cruiser .. if you go in as a solo frigate (you have to use 3 filaments to open the gate) then it populates the loot as if there are 3 players ... vs a solo cruiser which will only require 1 filament and therefore only have loot for 1 player
What about lvl 4 FW missions with some pullers? Isnt viable? I played 4 years ago and want back but i wsnt to know the meta
Faction warfare missions no longer exist
What about doing missions? I ear these level 5 missions can be great money makers
I'm very new to eve. what kind of ship should i use if i want to run escalations?
that really depends on the level, some can be done in frigates, the higher level ones you will need a t3c. my recommendation to ANYONE starting in EVE is join a corp. EVE University is a good corp to start with
So in this game can only look at planets but no walking on them ?
When your docked your just stuck in your ship no going into the base to walk around?
I have this game sin2020 still can't fly mine exploring and now I warped into a exploding jump gate now I have no ship just a pod.
I think I was following a training mission at this point I have no idea.
All the font and chat/info text is so small words makes a piss ant look like a giant.
People say use the chat help page the font is so small I can't read it.
Went into setting and turned the font size up or down really can't tel
I'm to dam stubborn to quit been gaming since pong so a life time of gaming
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That Plex stack thumbnail gave me flash backs to when Roblox had Plex (Ticks) 😢😢
Surprised exploration wasn’t mentioned
Since I found your videos I have been picking up on the gaps since coming back to eve, so much appreciation.
Still stumped though, atm I'm looking for valid info on whether heavy missiles are still valid with pve when it comes to hubs and havens but there is so much biased of HAM over HM.
Heavy missiles can work fine for pve, but personally I find missiles across the board, less than ideal due to their flight times, as much as I love them!
In my personal experience; little comes close to the efficiency of lasers for ratting & I say that as someone who finds artillery/autocannons by far the most engaging weapon types.
This is a how to speak Swahili spoken in Swahili.
If you don't already know everything that you are talking about with the terminology that is foreign to noobs, then what possible use could this be?
Secondly - its factually incorrect. There are other people at least trying to educate/inform others on how to do stuff in Eve. 400 million isk per hour doing the stuff you talk about is just a lie. What about all the learning you need to get to your level? What about the ship fitting and the shopping for parts? What about the time finding buyers? The time it takes to get everywhere? The time it takes to organize your stuff. What the possibility that things don't go perfectly? What about others that are just there to make sure you have a bad day? Does all this take ZERO seconds for you?
The least you could do is be honest about what you are doing even if it is wrong or in a language only you and 500 others know.
You completely missed factional warfare and exploration. You can make 100 mil an hour doing the faction warfare sites with almost no risk in a frigate or desy.
Can you give mor detail on that or link a good resource?
I'm always afraid of joining faction warfare, but are interested in trying. Once you join, are you an easy target for all other players, or can you turn it off to pursue other things?
400m an hr? damn inflation sure have hit hard.
People always need ammo... so I make ammo.
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Very Cool
The null sec ratting...I fly a Hecate...954 dps. I average 30mil ticks in the area I rat.
What is your fit?
I can’t go to low sec without other players destroying my ships it happens every time. I guess the game is so boring that the only entertainment some people get is by stealing from people.
I’m about ready to quit.
The developers think playing online with a community of random people is a perk. It’s the worst part of the game.
I tried to pass through a lvl 4 security system and got attacked as soon as I got there. Alphas can’t use cloaks so it ruins any opportunity to even bother.
If it was possible to turn off PVP I would. So that you are invincible to attack and incapable of attacking other players.
If you want to play solo in EVE just choose empty region in low sec. Avoid populated regions and watch local chat. I played this way and never been destroyed. Now I thinking about doing combat sites in null security.
This game is for people who die and their next thought is: "Hmm, how can I prevent that next time?"
Low Sec is one of the most dangerous places in Eve if you aren’t part of whatever group occupies the space, especially the border systems to High Sec. By entering Low Sec you have to assume someone is going to try to kill you.
PvP is central to Eve’s design so if you play Eve you can’t avoid it entirely and most the time it’s not voluntary for one of the participants. If you aren’t ok with that than it may not be the game for you.
However, you can learn to lessen the chances of being caught and killed even in the most dangerous parts of Eve. By watching who comes into local, using DScan to see what ships are around you, learning which systems are more or less active when you play, what ships are best to use to avoid being caught and many more things. Best advice I can give you is if you get caught and aren’t sure how send the hunter a message and say “hey good fight, how did you catch me?” Most will tell you and you can learn and might even make a friend.
But if you play Eve you must accept that at some point you will get killed by other players, you will lose ships, potentially a lot of ships depending on what activities you participate in.
Sounds like a skill issue
no offense but maybe its not for you. pvp, social side of the game, loosing are like the main features that make this game amazing
all of these are rng based, super skill heavy or require massive amounts of friends
Is there any build for Alpha Clones? With Gila or anything else?
in game chat channel: Abyssal Lurkers you will find links there. Don't jump into T3/4 filaments right away, start with lower tiers to learn the basics of environment and npcs
15:53 - suggesting nullsec ratting when ur not in a corp in that region who owns the territory..... what a stupid advice. quickest way you to get ganked...
Not all nullsec space is owned/controlled by players. There is NPC nullsec, too.
Found a guy who does not know how to use d-scan hahaha
Thx for free skill points😅😂
100 Mil/hour in Null Sec ratting, minus the cost to replace your ship and modules after you get ganked. And if you were Carrier ratting.....rage quit.
I had up to 10 accounts doing havens and sanctums and when i had 5 10/10 i would run them for a change.
For two last Hi-Sec DED 5/10 both stolen. The same with scaned 3/10 and 4/10. To be honest I'm more and more dissapointed. CCP disabled plexes for players who got them (or find them) and everyone who scan you with combat probes can stole your own pray. Those burglars in 95% are Russians, for me (time zone) impossible to avoid. For now I login to game once in the week even when I bought the pilot time monthly. There is no chance to get some good money for casual carebear player like me in a Hi-Sec.
leave hi sec
Yeah really leave high sec or join a corp. Eve is really the best in a group.
i make 100mil a hour in null ratting solo
Explo it is for me
lol 13.21 -- these are faction ship prices if u buy... not the value of the blueprint
oh cool, you can earn ISK... why? literally whats the point? this game has no point whatsoever. too bad the devs aren't smart enough to actually do something with this beautifully visual space shooter.
Join a null sec corp and PvP. It's the end game. I'm having more fun now than I ever did in highsec.
You can always end with why?
Space shooter? Are we playing the same game? :)
Lots of talking no isk made
exactly, it says top 5 methods, not tutorial of the individual methods
TIME IS A NON RENEWABLE RESOURCE. You could be gone tomorrow, do not waste it on games like this.
In a game where you can just open your wallet and get 400m in seconds, why would you even bother? It's literally a waste of time. If money is a renewable resource and time isn't, why would you waste it on a 20-year-old game that is pay-to-win? Is anyone really having fun grinding for isk? I guess you could look at it that way. Are you having fun doing what you are doing when you know full well someone with more money can just pop in their credit card and get infinitely more than you just earned in your full day of grinding in seconds?
You assume people are measuring their entertainment value by the size of their in-game wallet. Eve is one of the better games re horizontal progression. There are many aspects of play where the biggest most expensive thing does not godhammer everything else. You can pay for ISK but that does not equate to playing to win
@@Mike-ce2nk I stand by my comment. You didn't change my mind. In a game where you can open your wallet and be flying the best ship within an hour, or spend 6 months waiting, is the definition of pay-to-win. Progression skipping is Pay-2-win.
Yes, yes. I hear you. "But you are just going to lose that ship." And, yeah. Sure however this shortcut still tilts the game towards pay-to-win dynamics by accelerating progression in a way non-paying players can't match. I could fund 8 accounts, skill them up in certain things and do things a poor person cannot do without doing months of training if not years. It's literally the definition of pay 2 win. You can argue that it's not, but honestly, you can quite as easy shut the fuck up. You ain't changing the definition of pay 2 win.
Peace
Aceface gave away his entire 1 trillion fortune a couple of months ago, so he's not that motivated by Isk.
I agree with you to a point, isk per hour is a very bad metric to measure your playtime fun. Some people like Eve, other's hate it, each to their own. If you don't like it why comment? There's always going to be someone with more money than you, people with good careers are usually time-poor, so spending their real life money gives them a chance against the no-life basement dwellers who are time rich. The money they spend pays for the game.
Fully agree
Welcome to Modern gaming (even if EvE online is old tho) , its only getting worse from this point. If you have problem with this, i suggest you quit multiplayer gaming and stick with singleplayer titles or find a new hobby
all is bad, just buy yourself a plex and save time
There is a trick. Even if you buy plex - its nothing to do in game to have fun
your pronounciation of some of the things from the game are so blurry, I'm lucky there was a list here in comments. Man, open your mouth 🤯- thanks for the video anyway 07
I feel this. I did not understand "clone soldier" until he wrote in the market window