Blockade Runners & Deep Space Transports || EVE Online
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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Blockade Runners and Deep Space Transports are great ships for getting the goods you need through dangerous areas of space like wormholes or Nullsec.
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Space trucking....more than meets the eye.
Yup!!
10:16 the way warping/bubbles work, you don't need the nullification to last for whole align time. If you can warp or not, and where you will land if there is a bubble at destination is calculated the moment you press warp.
Exception is if you press warp (without nullifier on) and during aligning a new bubble pops up on top of you, then your ship will stop
Yeah, exactly! Your align time can be 300 seconds and it will still work
Great video! I would love to see an example of surviving warping into a gate camp.
Every time I get ganked I drop into a bubble with a 'gang of three' where my cloak drops.
(some array of three ships... One to do damage One that drains my capacitor and one that scrambles me)
I did try to, but couldn't find a decent gatecamp to even run 😅 typical really. Couldn't find one when you try to, get caught when you don't want to
It's not easy to escape once you're caught. It takes practice developing the reaction time and muscle memory to notice you've been interdicted, engage your nullifier, and warp out before being pointed. If you have a corp, you can always do some "safe" practice runs with them to help build those skills. When you're successful, it feels really good escaping a gate camp and subsequent chase. Don't ask how it felt losing a Viator carrying a Tengu, fittings, and loot totaling 1.3B in the 2 minutes before downtime on the last jump out of null tho.....
I ended up with Gallente haulers just because if you want to do any sort of PI the Planetary Commodity hold in the Epithal is pretty essential. Since you already have to train into Galente haulers to get it, I just kept it going. I only do the most basic PI and it's a fairly reliable 100 million a week. Definitely worth doing if you have 5 minutes to click Extract on your 3 characters each morning, and maybe 30 minutes to haul finished products around once a week.
Primae
It kinda annoys me honestly that after all this time they still have left most of these basic specialty haulers as Gallente-only
Same here.
Same here, but I started with a Miasmos & Kryos for mining ore & ice.
Kept going with Gallente.
@@Arthion yeah, but ammar dst can be significantly more tanky. So there is still a reason to SP other nations if you bother...
The Prowler, a great ship! She was the basis for a successful & self-sufficient life in the Shattered Wormholes, she was my citadel & a wolf in sheep's clothing with the Combat Scanners!
One of my favourite industrial ships!!
At 17:10 you mention that you can use the MWD+Cloak trick with the Blockade Runner. But surely if you're using a covert ops cloak you don't need to; you just click warp (breaking your temporary gate cloak), cloak up with the covert ops cloak, and then about 3 or 4 seconds later you'll warp whilst cloaked.
Won’t you show up on grid for a second though? Someone can try to get in range and de cloak?
@@shilohwelch9626 Yes you will, but I don't know of any way to avoid that. Using the MWD+Cloak trick would be the same, only you'd be in space, cloaked, for the 10-second MWD cycle before warping off.
Correct, merely a slip of the tongue 😅
About the 8 minute mark I was like ‘No way!’ I learned something today which I will use. Thank you, thank you, thank you for teaching this old dog new tricks!
Glad it was helpful!
@@captainbenzie Fits are solid, thank you.
I use my prowler all the time to pick up my PI from lowsec. I have a lot to relearn about travel in such areas, however my bookmarks and the stealthy capabilities and cargo capacity have made the runs easy so far, as long as I keep my attention on what I'm doing! ;) Good video man, thanks for taking the time!
Glad you're enjoying the video and the ship!!
good reason to skill into gallente over the other faction when it comes to hauling ship, are the higher selection of specialized t1 transport ships, like you can get the t1 kryos that can carry up to 70k m3 minerals. allso find the blockade runner to be alot safer ship then the deep sport transport. blockade runners are really hard to catch by themselvs, and if you run a scout 2 jumps ahead of it, to make sure you dont land it in a gatecamp, they near impossible to catch, and i feel so safe in them with that setup i have no issues flying around with 10-12 bill + in the cargo on regular basis if i need to
Excellent and glad you're doing well!
Love your videos, they have helped me so much as a returning player.
Glad to help!!
Hauling was my favorite profession in Eve. Thanks for this video and featuring 2 of my favorites.
Glad you enjoyed!
Regarding high sec hauling, you should try moving from incursion to incursion with your bling fits worth upwards of 5-10 bil / ship when every ganker knows you're an incursion pilot. That'll give you a similar feel to traveling through wormholes. :) Otherwise nice video, keep it up.
Haha thank you ☺️
Give your name and usual route, and I will make sure you have blue standings!!11
Using the prowler in all security spaces and never got caught in years and years, still the first one I bought. As long as you know what you’re doing, it’s like the Stiletto, even if it doesn’t have the covert ops device 🎉
Exactly this!
I know I'm late but cargo containers are great for storage, it adds a very small amount of room to cargo.
I use it on my apoc navy issue to hall my energy caps and scripts and other thingamajigs
Never too late to give great tips! ☺️
10:08 The align time isn't important for the nullifier. Typically you align first, get up to speed, then hit the nullifier right before you warp.
The align time is mostly just important for when you find you've jumped into a gate camp bubble. You need to get into warp before tackle can burn over to you and a pair of scrams on you.
This man talking about the cloak/MWD warp trick in reference to a cov ops cloak ship, and you nitpick about the nullifier thing?
(That trick is for ships that can't cloak and warp at the same time, simply cloaking and warping with no MWD is purely better on this ship. Nevermind it was equipped with an AB >.>)
You can and should activate the nullifier while gate cloaked. The nullifier can expire while you're aligning and you'll still warp.
It only checks when you click the warp button.
This is different than the WCS which checks both on Warp button and after aligning when you actually enter warp.
Great video. Love seeing people so interested in hauling as much as I am. I've always thought the names of the T2 haulers are backwards. A gate camp is by definition a blockade. So if you run into a gate camp you'll want something tanky that can muscle through it... Which is a DST. Then on the flip side when you think "deep space", what comes to mind is exploration, being nimble, cloaky even.... Which is the blockade runner. Just my thoughts :)
A note on your video, the blockade runner can warp cloaked so you don't need to do the cloak/mwd trick and uncloak before warping as you were describing. Just click warp and cloak up and done.
Blockade Runners are sneaky and can sail through blockades without being seen. Deep Space Transports are tanky because they're often used in mining ops too due to the Fleet Hangar so need to survive the rats etc. That's how I always saw it, at least.
Glad you're enjoying the videos, and yeah, I'm really enjoying hauling! Great fun running gatecamps. I just love high risk gameplay though I suck at PvP.
Nah blockade runners are fast and sneaky ships that can slip through a blockade. Warships would be the ones that have to muscle their way through it.
The best example of blockade runners in a real world context are the Confederate ones used in the American Civil War. With union sail driven warships blockading major Confederate ports to stifle trade with Europe, the solution the Confederates came up with was to make a bunch of fast steamships that would evade the blockading union warships by sailing against the wind under their own power, where the wind powered warships could not follow. Blockade runners in eve follow this example by evading conflict rather than enduring it.
As for deep space transports, their classification would make sense if they ever actually got used for their intended purpose, that being logistics support. This is the reason why they have a large fleet hangar instead of a large cargo hold. DSTs were intended to be used to carry supplies and ammunition for fleets operating remotely for extended periods of time. Unfortunately, player combat just never really took this form. Whenever large player corporations are going to be operating remotely for a while they will just anchor a staging structure to base their logistics out of.
I must admit, the blockade runner is a cool looking vessel.
The Prowler looks awesome! Not a fan of the Gallente or Amarr ones, but I do like Caldari Haulers too!
I like the looks of the "space trains" aka Bustard and Crane
Haha yeah! I feel the Prowler fits the Space Train aesthetic too!
just so you know, you're better off keeping the align time above 14 seconds, because a MWD lasts 10 seconds, meaning if you cloaky mwd (or just pulse mwd) when it ends, you will always warp in 10 seconds.
this allows you to be 10s align but fit stuff like damage control or power diagnostic, heck even cargo if you want.
run triple prop instead of shield extender:
MWD for cloaky mwd or just going fast
AB for when scrammed (MWD doesnt work when scrammed)
MJD for escaping sticky situations with cloaky+MJD trick, pretty much uncatchable with this.
It sounds silly but give it some thought. If you are caught by a significant gatecamp, you're already dead. escaping is more important than having EHP thatll make you still pop, just a minute or two slower.
Absolutely agree with this!
Ill often use my prowler to scout on my alt toon while i hunt or camp. Covops cloak is always useful and can haul loot home after!
Great usage!
I have slowly got into PI as a side hussle to fund my ship purchasing habits (just need one more... or three... maybe those seven over there...) and all those nice modules.
Wormholes seem to be pretty profitable so I may have to jump in some for a test run.
Best of luck!
Same, I've loved my Crane since starting to use it!
Awesome ship!
It’s nice to see a new Hauling video for either Eve
Happy to oblige!
Great video! I'm loving my time in Grimskull!!
Great to hear!
I've been a big fan of the hypered and stabed Bustard. Never been caught in it.
Already got the Prowler thanks to Burn❤. Thanks to you I got an idea about the fit. The only thing is going shopping in Jita😊. Thanks Benzie.o7
Good luck and have fun!!
Awck-ah-tor i like mine. Reminds me of a work van. Also the nerus from echoes.
I agree that the minmatar have the best names for the tech 2 haulers.
Prowler and Mastodon just sound so badass 😅
Dear Capt,
I also enjoy the hauling cat n mouse game. Also prefer the minmatar vessels.
Tho some of the reasons are different.
To transport goods safely in null/wh it pays to be out of the gate quickly, hence minmatar.
Totally agree that the cloack/MWD, when preformed well, improves your hauling rate without losses.
Have fun Hauling, II surely do :)
Thank you! 😂
Btw, for a DST off the gate should not exceed the 10sec.
The trick is to never get caught, else you receive a kill mail!
Going with your daring fits (no modules) - why put a tank in a DST?
Prefer to haul a shuttle with me, to scout out systems ahead (LS/Null/more challeging in WH's though)
The Minmatar haulers are in DIRE need for a visual update. Aside from some texture improvements over the years, it's literally been the same haulers since I started in 2007.
Like the Wreathe/Prowler is sooo dated looking..
Honestly, the Prowler is probably my favourite hauler visually 😅
@@captainbenzie It does look nice all things considered, but CCP is pretty good about updating ships while staying true to the original design. I think they could give it a good facelift
low align time doesn't help you not getting popped at stations where you don't have a instadock, which is where most blockade runners are killed imho. i'd get more tank on that blockade runner
...or set up an instadock
@@captainbenzie yup :D
thanks so much for these great tutorials, really helped!!!
Really glad to help!!
Noone told me warp nullification interdiction whatever hauler modules even existed thanks lool.
Hope you enjoy and happy to help!
This is a great video. Thanks mate! ❤
Glad you enjoyed!
man i always wanted deep space transport fleet hangar to be able to hold the bigger structures in its cargo hold. Now ccp is bringing out new haulers :D
Have you considered an afterburner instead of a jump drive? The afterburner allows you to align in 8s flat, without having to fit for agility. They are also useful to burn to the gate, if you are scrambled and your MWD is turned off. I don't see the usefulness of the micro jump drive since they are also disabled when you are scrambled, regardless of your warp core strength.
I'd never use an AB over a MWD as you can't do the MWD/Cloak trick with it, and in a real pinch, you can also do the cloak/MJD trick too if I'm in a bubble. It helps you get out of dangerous situations quickly.
The MJD also gets you out of bubbles even when disrupted. Sure, worthless when SCRAMMED but that doesn't always happen.
@@captainbenzie why I use dual prop, MWD and AB. You can do a cloak/MDJ trick? Didn't know that.
@@BrunoMoozika dual prop is also now eating into tank. Having an AB active increases your mass, ergo your inertia.
@@captainbenzie if I'm just being disrupted I can just warp out, don't need a MJD. In 99% of the cases if anyone is gonna bother with a DST they are packing with scramblers, multiple.
Could you, please, elaborate why you need cloak+mwd trick for covert cloak ship with sub 10 sec warp time? You mention this when you are talking about deep space transport...
In your example, cloak+warp = 4 seconds, cloak+mwd+warp = 10 seconds. What's the point to involve mwd?
It makes sence on the ships without covert ops cloak possibilities only? Or I am missing something?
DST can't warp cloaked so you should use it there. Didn't mean to mention Blockade Runners 😅
Do you have a specific video showcasing the Prowler how to do?
How to do what, sorry?
@captainbenzie how to, I mean how to use it in action to get off gatecamps etc 🙂
I wish i could see some hauling action -- maybe some that were a close call with others in null
I'm not in Nullsec ;)
Talking about naming... Mastadon is a big fluffy elephant. Occator is a God's name.
But we should not expect much from a person who cannot even read it correctly, right? 😂
(i am just pulling your leg. Gallente-boy mode on)
Technically Occator wasn't a God, he was an assistant to Ceres often mistranslated as a God. And a Mastadon was more than an elephant, it was a primordial megafauna 😉
(Minmatar fanboy mode, go!)
@@captainbenzie I see... we have a values issue here. :-D
When I know that some animal for you is cooler that someone assosiated with gods, a lot of what you are saying start making more sence. Not that I agree with you! I just see where it comes from.
:-P
@@Shorrey stepping out of character for a moment, I do genuinely prefer the Nordic, primal, and weaponry names of Minmatar. Give me a Vagabond, Vargur, Sabre, Muninn etc any day 😉
Probably why I like Caldari too, like Tengu, Kitsune, Drake etc. And Guristas.
I'm not a big fan of religious symbolism, whether Amarrian or Gallentean classical Greek reference 😉
@@captainbenzie @captainbenzie living in Sweden, I like names like Moonin, Nidhogour, Sleipnir and all those.
In general, i like the naming in this game, disregarding if it has religeous background or not.
Talking about design though... I also have to step away from my character... :-D Coz i have a lot of questions to Gallente designs!
@@Shorrey I also live up north and while the ancient nordic names speak to me, i just cannot resist the designs of the Gallente ships.I just love how they're organic looking and sometimes slightly asymmetrical.
Im confused. You are talking about the MWD trick on a ahip you put an afterburner on (which is the right fitting call since it is anti gatecamp). And it also has a covops cloak, so you can warp cloaked. There is zero need to MWD trick on a blockade runner, ever.
I'm just talking about it in this video, I showcase it specifically elsewhere
@@captainbenzie Oh okay gotcha. Yeah I saw your MWD trick video. Thanks for the good content Benzie!
I skilled into interceptors this weekend and spent yesterday moving high value items around low/nullsec. With 100m3 cargo space I can fit about 1.5billion isk worth of the 0.01m3 rig components in a single haul. Do you plan on doing a video on interceptors and hauling anytime soon?
Just be careful with smartbomb campers. It is possible to get hit with carefully timed smartbombs while you are still decelerating from warp. I was in an interceptor full of similar loot and got insta-popped and podded in lowsec before I even landed on the gate.
Interceptors are easy: Warp to ping above gate, dscan, jump if clear.
if nullsec, the same, but when you jump use nullifier, or if you are bubbled on the other side.
They're the easiest ships to get around with. make good use of sub 2s align with mods and a cloak, mwd and nullifier.
thanks for the skill points mate, EU player returning after 7 years. do you have a corp and do coop explo as well? im interested
thanks
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Thanks for video) Can you please include fits as before in description or comment for lazy people like me)
Yup, have done on all the upcoming ones, just forgot on this one... 😅
45kehp isn't that a bit low? my Occator has 82k and that is still low because i'm lacking some skills.
also the align time doesn;t really matter that much as it always is the cycle time of the MWD anyway, so i would not worry too much about it or put reccources into it, which will free up them for Defense. one more thing, why do the MWD trick on a BR? you just hit warp and cloak, doing the MWD trick will add make your going away atually take longer.
EHP only matters if you're caught
Oh god benzie you've only been playing eve for abit and you have already caught the "wormholer btw" bug o7
Ooo now i see .. thats why many people have Super Ships / Titans/ SuperCarriers....cheating may be part of the game where multiboxing trive ..;) when Bug is there ....sooner or later will be explloyted .
Nah, I've been playing on and off since 2012. Jumped back in properly in April 2022, but the last few months are where I've been focusing on content, hence so many SP and ship options 😉
@@Spiritt_Daphiti what the fuck are you talking about? he doesn't mean that type of bug. he means bug as colloquialism of catching an illness. and he's using catching an illness as a colloquialism as he's having a lot of fun with wormholing. there's no cheating going on.
Let's about about align time and interdiction. I think you are over thinking things. Lets say you have 20s align time from stop and you have 10s of interdiction activation. You just got though the gate and there is a bubble. Just align to target, count to 10+, activate your interdiction nullifier, warp.
The thrill of almost dying
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Yo I’m driving here get outta my way
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Think my less cheap Mastodon fit lands around 320k ehp heated :)
I think as long as you have started the warp within the 13s you are fine.
Nice
Where do you haul to in wormhole space? There are no stations.
I'm in a wormhole corp. We have stations.
High risk? Jump Freighters or bust!
😂 can't use them in our wormhole though!
Why need MWD trick on Blockade runner just warp cloaked no?
Yeah, MWD/Cloak trick is more for DSTs.
what happened to eve echoes? Has that game gone like all other games in the china market and fallen to microtransactions gallore?
Yeeeeeeeuuuuuuup
I don't get the shakes in any other pvp game like I do when I'm flying bling and something unexpected happens fuckin addicting
Exactly this! It's the adrenaline rush that's addicting.
@@captainbenzie I came back to the game recently after a long break and discovered the hard way what T2 Dreads are like, my JF got lanced coming back into high sec. Didn't care about the loss but my adrenaline was super high the whole time.
@@handlesaresuperghey yup, those things are SCARY!!
Can't say I like the ship blows it is gone. Never liked it in any game esp not an MMO. However the player system would not work in Eve any other way. So I accept that to enjoy the rest.
......he likes huffing things is all i got from that
Yep subscribed finally an eve tuber who actually shows useful information and not just hang out on the test server all dam day
Huffing is one of the best activities. For some reason I really love it. Reminds me of mowing the lawn. It's work that is relaxing.
Haha thank you 🤣
Wow, I fly Amarr BR and wow, it aligns in 3 seconds and you are talking about 11.
That's the DST, not the BR
@@captainbenzie Ok then you have to explain your hauling idea. 1. Why do you have a cloak and care about align time? You are supposed to be aligning while cloaked. 2. Align time has no connection with the nullifier. You are supposed to click it When you are ready to jump so why does the 13 seconds matter? When are you clicking your nullifier?
Remember, shield extenders and inertial stabilizers increase your signature radius, making you easier to lock and land that scram.
Yes, but you're visible for literally 1 second.