Mark these words, disney will not prevail as they are and their infrastructure will fall for their heinousness, there is reason why you never have heard about what happens at the top of their and other large entertainment companies. Only the real prevail.
Imagine a child being born into one of these communities and their entire life revolving around Disney. One day the child escapes into the real world and it would be like a real life version of breaking out of Barbieland.
And that's when you learn that Goofy is far more hung then you could ever imagine, and it's all over. Goofy will be ah-hyucking your wife, really making her feel the magic, every night from now on
One of the reasons that so many strikers fought and died a century ago was that people were forced to live on company grounds and were paid in company currency only valid in company stores. Google also wants people to live on site. I wonder how long until these companies start their own currencies as pay again
@@hotrodflame4410fuck off commi the system works fine as long as it's checked the issue is people are to comfortable and lazy to pike a billionaire to keep the rest of em humble
It's kinda funny that the "happiest place on Earth" is embodiment of every cyberpunk setting ever, a setting based entirely around how awful the future would be if we did these things.
I worked with a girl that was a Disney cultist. She told me once she had watched every single thing on Disney +. Even the for kids stuff. She had a Disney credit card, Disney tattoos, Disney merch, went to Disney multiple times a year, even got REALLY REALLY mad when her fiance proposed to her and it wasn't at Disney
That girl needs help. She must be using her obsession with Disney to fill a hole in her life. I actually got obsessed with comics when I was younger. I would get really upset about the smallest things over it. It was a way for me to cope and ignore the trauma of my Dad leaving. Eventually I grew up, and I realized I got too upset over or depended too my much on my comics. So I took a break and got into some other stuff and faced my problems.
i disagree. devoting that much of your life to one franchise at the very least deserves to be examined. passion can cross into obsession pretty easily.
If you’ve never visited The Villages near Ocala, then you wouldn’t know that this ALREADY EXISTS. My parents live there and it’s the most dystopian, weird, fake ass place I’ve ever been. It felt like being in Westworld. They have music playing through the lamp posts in the streets, everyone that works there acts like Disney cast members. I was so ready to leave as soon as I got there. Felt like a weird cult.
As a person from the Palm Springs area, tons of people are largely against this project. The neighborhood design uses so much water and Palm Springs has always had drought problems. Not to mention the redlining is crazyyyy with how much these houses will cost
I remember first seeing them gate off the land and was curious what they were building just to have the most massive disappointment of the “Disney community” lol
wow just read about that. heres an excerpt: *In a statement to Jones' brother, who made the request, Disney said, "We have striven to preserve the same innocence and magic around our characters that brought Ollie such joy. "For that reason, we follow a policy that began with Walt Disney himself that does not permit the use of characters on headstones, cemetery or other memorial markers or funeral urns,"*
@@Birdboy69 tbf that wasn’t his last dying wish and what good is it when the coffin is buried? That’s not a compromise, Disney is just evil and has been for a very long time.
Defunctland has some good documentaries on Disney's original ideas for planned communities. Apparently he was so exact about his community plan for epcot that you wouldn't even be allowed to change your own lightbulbs.
It's not that you wouldn't be allowed to change your lightbulb, it's that you wouldn't have to. I freaking love the origional design for the Experimental Prototype City Of Tomorrow. I find it more utopian than dystopian, but I believe these sort of things freak people out. Epcot was not as creepy as this community Charlie is describing here. I also want to point out that the current layout of most cities is chaotic and inefficient. At least Walt Disney's designs resolved key urbanization dilemmas.
@@slish438 I mean, you would literally be signing up to be a part of an experiment in which Disney people could come into your house at any time to swap out appliances and the like. A sticking point in the design was that if the residents stayed too long, they would legally have to be given the right to elect local officials, which Walt was completely against. If nothing else, it's weird.
Man-made dystopian horrors aside, living in a place like that seems like it'd get old very quick for anyone not terminally mousebrained. It'd be like the part in Mickey's Once Upon A Christmas where Huey Louie and Dewey wish that it was Christmas every day and eventually get sick of it, except I'm sure it'd be _way_ easier to undo a wish than it would be to try to escape Disney after selling your soul to them.
Honestly, I think that if those actual adults actually were critikal of what they saw and stuff, they probably would have gotten tired already, because they already just mindlessly consume. Also they probably would be more aware of how shady Disney has been, or realized how weird Walt was
The idea of Disney marketing an entire community on the idea of it being this ideal, somewhat removed from reality location is some textbook cyberpunk material. Leaving the harshness of the real world behind to live in a sanitized corporate pen
I've met multiple couples who go to Disney like 3 or 4 times a year. One couple even had their three kids (7-12) who were absolutely sick of going. It was crazy to listen to a 7 year old beg to stay with their grandparents because they're already tired of going! No matter how much they complained though, they were still going to Disney for vacation! The other couples weren't any better either. It's like the parents had convinced themselves that this was all for their kids when it was them who were addicted to going. I just had to cut them all out.
I mean, I knew people like this too, and my family even did it somewhat, but we’re semi-locals (around 2 hours away) and so it was a weekend trip. I wouldn’t say we necessarily got tired of going to disney, but it wasn’t like, a magical experience. It was the equivalent to someone’s weekend beach trip or something. Knowing others nearby helped because it often became a trip with friends, or even family that we’re visiting from afar that we were kind of guides for, lol. Anyway, they have since jacked the price for seasonal/annual tickets DRAMATICALLY since I was a kid, so we don’t do that anymore and haven’t for several years. But I do still consider disney a weekend trip kind of deal internally, since I knew many people who did this, even those without a ton of money, back in the day. Since Floridians got discounts and all that.
Yeah I’m in that family lol I always enjoyed going to Disney but it’s definitely gotten overpriced and one of my parents I will say WAS unhealthily obsessed for a bit lol and they definitely believed that Disney was 100% pure, or at least 99% 💀 However that’s not to say that I didn’t immensely enjoy going to Disney and I remember it being so much fun… eventually it became a little too much and in a way became my second home and it probably shouldn’t have I would NEVER live there it sounds horrible and I value my freedom :)
As someone who worked in the parks, the worst Disney adults are the ones in big groups with matching T-shirts. And Im not talking like school groups, I'm talking like groups of 25 thirty-something year olds all wearing "drink around the world" shirts. I worked at Oga's Cantina in Galaxy's Edge and seating them was always a nightmare and half of them were already wasted before even entering the bar.
The crazy thing is, this has already existed. There is a neighborhood in Disney that has houses that are completely themed Disney that sell for on average 10 million dollars. Its truly insane
Yeah! I knew this concept sounded familiar. I thought I was going insane for a second there thinking they never existed lmfao. I always heard rumors as a kid that that particular Disney community was some cult or Stepford Wives situation lmfao
@@ShyShy_999 we really have to appreciate people that actually are here that aren’t bots sometime, like the comment you sent, was actually typed, not auto sent after like 30 seconds of the videos release
This reminds me so much of those company towns that coal companies would build near the mines, where the company owned your house and you were paid in company scrip (instead of real currency), which can only be used at the company store.
Imagine you live here and befriend your neighbours and end up knowing them for years and then finding out their a Disney employee and just doing their job. Lmao
It's crazy there's an indie game that came out recently (American Arcadia) about a massive entertainment industry corporation who created a city and the main character discovers that like half the population are actors. Really great game ! Inspired by Epcot and Truman show.
Yeah, because creating gated communities and distancing them from reality is such a wonderful and totally not manipulative concept. Sounds like the beginning of a dystopian novel. Way to go Disney.
You're essentially describing the super wealthy (SUUUUPER wealthy) families in the US, because that's exactly what they do. They go off and live in gated communities with other SUPER wealthy people, private educations, etc... never interacting with reality. Then these very same people turn around and become our elected leaders lmfao. Anywayssss, yeah not a great idea.
They already have a crazy gated community with multi million dollar properties and the craziest part is even though you pwn the house you're not allowed to even paint a wall without prior approval from Disney.
@@ratbastian EPCOT, though he died before it could come to fruition. On the other hand, Henry Ford had several such microstates, so this still happened before anyways.
My former boss (the director of a daycare) favored going thousands of dollars in debt every year to take her 4 kids to Disney multiple times a year - like usually 4 or 5 times every single year. It's crazy to me that she among others would go bananas for something like this. It straight up sounds like a dystopian nightmare waiting to happen 💀
Fun fact. This is actually the type of thing that Walt Disney himself wanted. His original design of EPCOT, before he died, was an entire community for people who work for Disney or their sponsors. It would have everything you would need, shops, entertainment, that type of thing. The thing is, his plan was going to make it an attraction. I wouldn’t be surprised if they allow people to tour the place. Also, his plan was to have beta technology in the houses, tech that the community were not allowed to reject. This would happen while you were or weren’t home, where they just come in and replace your fridge or something. You were not allowed to refuse it. Also Walt wanted to control everything, basically becoming a dictator to the neighbourhood. He knew what was best, and he stripped any ability for the community to be able to vote, or change where they lived. Back then, everyone called Walt crazy, and basically axed the project once he died, changing it to the Epcot we know. Now they’re doing it themselves. It’s insane. Please, if you are thinking of living there, look into every part of the terms, what you’re expected to do/have, and what they do in the community. I’m not gonna knock you for wanting to go, just be careful :).
epcot center fan here, i was recently reviewing walts orignal plans for E.P.C.O.T and i was shocked at how legitimately dystopian they were 💀i believe part of the plan was to have corporate rule over democracy. wild
I recently saw a documentary on this and it was so eerie and creepy how obsessed he was with these plans. I was glad that it never became a real thing and now this is just insane
Former Disney employee here: cast member is the blanket term that Disney uses to describe their workers. Before Walt Disney died, he tried to plan for a city that he controlled - EPCOT. There would definitely be events. Having worked at Walt Disney World, firework shows would be set off every night at 9:20 sharp, just for the sake of being extra. Extra is Disney’s main motto.
EPCOT is a park in Disney World, and all that stuff happens. EPCOT was meant to showcase technology and predictions for the future. I mean, that’s what the park said anyway. Who knows, I’ve probably been fooled lol
Can verify Disney being extra (Former Epcot merch, still local).. Celebration was super dystopian but Golden Oaks is kind of charming in my opinion but I’m the target demographic 😂
@@xWatexx Walt's vison for EPCOT was a futuristic city, but he died before that became a thing and it thankfully became a showcase for new technology instead. Defunctland's documentary on it is pretty good imo..
That concept became Celebration, but it didn't preform well with how strict the HOA was. Now Celebration is a great example of a well planned new urbanist neighborhood. It's actually pretty nice, and isn't even gated.
I wouldn’t be surprised if 10 years from now, I’m seeing a news article about one of the residents living there getting kicked out because someone was walking by their house and heard a movie they were watching “have too much violence”.
kicked out? no, i can imagine worse. they would “re-educate” you and make sure you dont leave under the scripted reason of “you will spread unhappiness to the world”. We shall make sure you only spread “happiness” once you are in here and can only speak positively about disney under ANY circumtances
“why would you want to leave? this is the happiest living place in the world. Oh no…it seems you are broken. Poor you….dont worry we can fix you right up and make you happy again”
i'm not concerned about the spies or the "cast" because i know people have to be rational after all , i'm concerned about the children that will get raised there and they will literally make disney their whole childhood , that's just scary
Yeah idk how these kids are gonna adjust to the real world should they ever leave! It will be the latest version of people leaving communities built around extreme lifestyles. Think ex-cult members, conspiracy theorists, religious fundamentalists, etc.
@Sweet_Dee i understand but like , disney is literally a company for like fantasy cartoon . it's not like a cult not a religion or anything normal , it's like imprisoning a person with only one tv channel just playing over and over agian
@@Sweet_Dee what i mean is they're gonna have to adapt to their environment and their environment is literally just fictional fantasy cartoon characters. that's not healthy
Hi! Person who lived in Celebration, FL here. Not a lot of people know about Celebration but it was originally developed by Disney and was “supposed to be” what the ideal image of Epcot was supposed to be. Epcot stands for Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. In the end its just another place in Florida lol. Nobody is Disney worshipping shit
Why would they do that when they can just fire them? Another 9,000 Disney workers are being laid off in the name of cutting costs, but axing the creepy Disney desert cult community that is bound to cost several billion is just not an option, I guess...
The biggest problem with a Disney neighborhood in my opinion is the novelty would wear thin quickly. Disney World is fun to go to sometimes but living there would make it feel less special.
See I would agree with you but I know people from my hometown who go into debt every year to visit Disney multiple times a year. Like they live in an RV because they would rather be at Disney multiple times than live in a normal house. So bizarre to me.
@@markieclift2193 Huh then I guess I am a normal Disney fan. Universal is better. There are more fast rollercoasters. Hershey Park is the best. You actually get to go on the rides. LOL
A community where a single company would be in charge of everything, the shops and facilities are all operated by "cast memebers". Seriously how is this *not* considered creepy by everyone?
@@dillpickle5616 what was that practice called again? I know it had a term because the US government had to ban it in the late 1800's or early 1900's because of how bad it got
Two observations: 1. Disney calls them cast members to avoid employment titles that have legal protections 2. I see Disney is trying to improve the PhilDickian dystopia’s market share
Cast member is just what they call all of their employees, I worked in a shop and my job title was literally customer service representative on paper. Stop spreading misinformation
Funny thing about this is that the location they chose for this storyliving community is about a 2 hour drive away from disneyland. You could get a place much closer for (presumably) much cheaper
Don't worry, they'll have an Elon tunnel straight into Donald Ducks cloaca with only a marginal chance of everyone dying of asphyxiation down in the gamer RGB LED lit underground.
Oh wow, I didn't even look to see where it's located. Yeah, Rancho Mirage is NOT close, especially given the shitty traffic down there. At least Golden Oak had the good sense of been located within the overall Disney World resort. Very strange.
My mom's ex-boyfriend's sister (ex-almost-step-aunt?), sold her house to move down there right next to the park in Florida. She had her whole house done in Disney before she sold it. Turned out to be too expensive, now they live in an RV behind her mother's house. They had four kids in that RV before two moved out. Terrifying the level of obsession these people get to... Little edit P.S: they still go to the park at least 4-5 times a year.
In college I read a book called Snow Crash for a class. It was supposed to be a dystopian world that was more satire on the cyberpunk genre. Well written. A major part of the world building is that the US slowly sold off chunks of land to corporations that owned neighborhoods. So it begins.
This wouldn’t actually happen, the federal and state governments give corporations enough tax breaks as it is and give them privileges to basically do as they please in certain circumstances. Although, after DeSantis recently stripped away Disney’s privileges in Disney World, we could see the reversal of this trend. I would definitely vote republican if they put the “war on wokeness” to the sidelines and made stripping the privileges of corporations their no 1 priority. But, who knows what will happen after 2024.
That began over a decade ago. Chinese corporations have been buying up land and residential areas in the U.S. for years. It's horrifying and is only getting worse. Disney joining the game is just proof of how far it's already gone for them to be like "golly, we need in on THAT!"
@@ironiceirerepublicans at large will never do this because they are bought and sold by those exact corporations. Only reason DeSantis is going after Disney is because he thinks they're woke, not realizing they're only woke on a superficial level, and he's so lost in the sauce that he actually buys into his own culture war clown show.
@@Cartmansrevenge42069 And Desantis got his ass handed to him because he's an idiot. I would never defend Disney & their like for the weird shit that they pull on a regular basis, but this was just too funny to not enjoy.
This was announced ages ago, and there already is an existing disney neighbourhoud at wdw. Its super weird, they have very strict rules. There have been basically no updates on Storyliving afaik, they probably abandoned the idea.
I think the reason it "didn't work" with the last neighborhood is because a guy murdered his entire family there, and people didn't feel comfortable/safe there after that. I took that as a sign that doing something like this will definitely drive people insane because it definitely isnt healthy to be this dedicated; but i guess disney thought different
Regarding surveillance and ownage from a creative's point of view; I lived on Disney grounds via their College Program back in 08 and boy that was already a hard pill to swallow; had to hide the fact I was an artist working on my own original material during my stay, because they can legally put a vice grip on your work and claim it as Disney's property while you're still onsite. Imagine being the child or young adult wanting to pursue their creative passions, but they are stuck living in the Disneyburbs with parents that have permanently stapled mouse ears to their heads knowing they will likely have to keep their non-Disney adjacent stories to themselves until they can escape from the Happiest Place on Earth.
@Antonio-GransciI know better than to comment on RUclips but holy sh*t bro. You realize that media is used as allegories and to expose problems in society right? And why the heck bring up zoomers lol. Their comment is ambiguous to age and time period. You are probably just a troll but still lmao. Seems like you have issues with society that you put in RUclips comments when you should write a book.
As a terrible Disney Adult, I have experienced a fraction of this as part of the Disney College Program living, working, breathing Disney, and while it's fun at first, the Disney fatigue sets in pretty quick.
I was searching the comments for one from a DCP Alum. I loved my year there (WDW) … then it took like 3-5 years for me to detach Disney as part of my identity and just make it a thing that I did after college.
Omg I just googled it and it seems like you're kinda just working at Disney?? I can't imagine spending a semester or even a year at Disney while also WORKING there. No escape omg
I work at Disney, for 10 years now, and I was surprised when I found out 6 years ago that there was one family who won the lotto and chose to rent out a camp site at Fort wilderness for an entire year and just lived there and ate at restaurants and went to the park daily. Absolutely insane
Ngl i liked working at disney during my time there and hope to work there with my major, but its insane how far people go for the parks. Sometimes the coworkers act odd like the disney fans. I met either smart insightful people or just fans that make you feel out of place
@@Twiddle_thingsbut why DO you care? How does that affect your life? Live and let live, you have your own life to worry about. What’s it to you that some people choose to live their own lives in their own way? As long as they aren’t hurting anybody, I don’t see the need to be so judgemental over how people choose to live their lives. Needless judgment is a great source of pain in life, I’ve found.
disney has ALWAYS wanted to do this. i remember growing up in orlando and hearing about an "all inclusive neighborhood where you never have to leave!" since 2005
@@femboy4rumMars yeah, Epcot ended up becoming just a mostly normal section of the park but the original idea was for it to be a whole city owned and controlled by Disney. i've even read that part of the idea was that the city would be encased in a giant bubble of some kind, and that Disney would be able to control the weather??? super weird shit tbh.
@negligible_reality The difference between Epcot and this is that Epcot was supposed to be a futuristic community with experimental technology, automation, public transit, and they were going to partner with companies so people could work close to home. This is just some Disney branded nonsense that has none of the upsides that epcot theoretical would have.
There's a book about this exact thing happening. "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" by Cory Doctorow. The context is that in the (dystopian) future, people live and work in a corporate society owned by Disney. I wonder if Disney execs read the book and were like "That sounds like a good idea!".
It's like something out of a cheesy dystopia horror film, this is creepy and quite frankly scared how much they can try to range a neighborhood and turn it into their personal capitalist crony neighborhood
@@mcordonhouston Fr, I feel these bots are just doing it as a new way to get views and attention, most bots do it for financial gain, these are just discord users getting goofy
Regrettably, there are many adults who experience the 'Peter Pan syndrome,' where they remain physically mature but mentally hold onto a childlike perspective.
Facts… I was always so confused in high school when I’d see other high schoolers around me obsessed with Disney. I’d be like did y’all never grow up? So you can imagine my shock at finding out that whole grown ass adults are still into that shit. WILD. Glad I was always a Cartoon Network kid lol
@@Alex-vm6ef Looks like their prince didn't come after all. Still, given the prices for Disneyland, Disneyworld, and basically anything else "Disney" these days, clearly many of them can keep it together long enough to hold a decent-paying job and afford going to these theme parks more than once in their lives.
Its a bit weird to live in a Disney themed neighborhood. But we don't have to start drudging up questionable pop psychology from the 80s every time we think something's unusual
It sounds like a college campus(or fancy gated neighborhood) but with an oddly ominous aura. Like something evil is lurking but you’re not quite sure what it is.
This sounds a lot like company towns. I first heard of them from a book called The Glace Bay Miner's Museum. It's a historical fiction but basically it's about how workers slaved away for this mining company, and they really had no way out because their homes, their shops, everything was all owned by the mining company.
Literally serfdom but without farmland and just the homes themselves. I think this Disney neighborhood is quite literally going to be the building block of modern or future serfdom. Instead of having a cool smart home with a walkable city and a safe neighborhood, we get a cooperation literally governing over you to the point where you have no freedom at all. I really hope this is only restricted to the die hard fans of corporations bro........
Ok but this is unironically a thing that did happen IRL and one of the main causes of the coal miner's strikes that culminated in the battle of blair mountain, companies would make entire towns and even print their own currency to the workers had no chance to leave
Literally, Liminal Land mentioned how they built a complex for their guests to move in forever to be eventually sacrifice to demons. Good to see that Disney's taking some inspiration.
I think the Disney adult epidemic is from people who never really grew up or had bad childhoods. they sort of cling to the comforts of being a kid and use Disney to do it in adulthood.
@@gazmodiusI mean, the only person I know who’s a Disney Adult actually had abusive parents. She used disney to cope with her shitty childhood as a kid, then it stuck with her as an adult. I think it’s just a mix.
I'm surprised the word "cult" was only used once in passing, because this is actually trying to establish a mask-off Disney cult. I can only imagine people in Mickey costumes handing out the kool-aid when it inevitably falls apart.
I remember visiting celebration on holiday and it was the most uncanny experience. They had a six person limit sign outside their basketball courts, most things were shut and the town hotel was borderline empty from what I recall. Safe to say I’m in no rush to return.
Since the neighborhood is technically owned by Disney, and given their obsession with a family friendly image, if you did something they didn't deem apropiate, could they kick you out of your own house?
Imagine a security guard dressed in a Goofy suit beating on your door in the middle of the night… “Good evening sir, it seems you haven’t been abiding by the rules of our perfect magical community! It looks like you violated article 251 section 3 of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse guidelines, and you know what that means… Ohhhh TOOOOODLES! 🎶”
Imagine being in a Disney only neighborhood, where the HOA enforces smiles and the penalty for watching Netflix is banishment to the Tower of Unhappiness
Walt Disney's original idea for EPCOT was a futuristic city where transit would be idealized and the different streets would look like different cities from around the world. And while yes, Disney would be the company to start it, it was going to be an _actual city,_ not a place for the company to earn money from theme park obsessions. I really wish we could have seen how the original plan for EPCOT would have turned out, because it's a really interesting concept. 'Storyliving' is just creepy. And greedy.
I mean to be fair, EPCOT was essentially run by Disney. He’d essentially be an overlord, but unfortunately he died before it was done. However, it wasn’t supposed to be connected to any of his ideas or theming. He thought history would remember him as a cartoon and theme park guy, rather than someone who changed the planet for the better.
EPCOT in turn was basically riffed from social experiments by Ford and other industrial giants; they’d basically buy a chunk of land in a 2.5th World country and run a little dictatorship based on twisted utopian ideals. Divorce would be illegal, there would be its own currency (unavailable for exchange with legitimate currencies, of course), everyone was required to have a job, etc.
If you played Fallout New Vegas you would know it would pretty much be The strip from that game run by Mr House aka Disney pretty much, its sad cause Disney was an amazing dude, truly an inspiring person who stopped at nothing to reach his dreams pretty based, now we have the distopic undead megacorp that ruins everything fuelled by propaganda and greed.
There was issues with EPCOT but at least he was trying genuinely make a unique community. This is literally just a neighborhood but you pay extra to get sponsored commercials to you daily.
I hope by 'cast members' they meant that people like store employees, librarians, matinance workers etc are all Disney cast members in costume. That'd be insane
It’s fairly insane how often corporations have done stuff like this. It’s not even a remotely new concept considering Henry Ford did this in the 30s with Fordlandia.
@@tahaloutfi8844pretty sure fordlandia was located somewhere in South America where they were able to grow rubber trees edit: i realize you were likely joking 😅💀
It's basically Uncanny Valley: the neighborhood. Getting so close to living in an actual fantasy, but not quite reaching the mark, so it invokes feelings of terror.
The SpongeBob reference about Squidward going to that squid only community, with the same Easter island head house, to be alone is the best comparison lol. Charles is right on the money with that one. I would imagine though it would be worse because the community could easily become some sort of Disney cult with all these fanatical Disney Adults running around. I wouldn’t be shocked if it was successful that horror channels on RUclips would make videos titled something like The Cult of Disney or the Creepiest Neighborhood on Earth. Wild stuff.
If you think the concept of a neighborhood is crazy, Walt Disney originally created the concept for an entire town. He wanted to create a utopia (dubbed EPCOT) that was his official vision of the future. It included entire communities with a working force, underground subway systems, and futuristic homes. Defunctland did a really great video on this
I actually did a paper on this. Super interesting. Experimental Prototype City Of Tomorrow. Everything would be under a dome to control the weather and people would be continuously introduced to new products to try by having their stuff switched out into their own home.
Lived literally right across the street from this development for a few years. Watched all of groundbreaking although not building. This is potentially the worst idea of all time. Not only is Disney planning on using unfathomable amounts of water for this place, they are jeopardizing a massive part of the local economy at the same time - golf courses. They all need the water more. Not to mention the wave parks other companies are building in the desert. I’ve since moved out but can’t wait to hear how poorly all of this goes.
I know a Disney adult in Hong Kong. She has a huge amount of Disney merch, tons of Disney tattoos, and goes to Disney every time that she can. She has an annual pass or something so she can go as often as she likes without paying to get in. The main draw seems to be new merch drops along with the "Cast Members" - basically just the people dressed up as Disney characters or in mascot suits or whatever that walk around, do parades, and have meet-and-greets. From what I understand the schedule for these things constantly changes and a lot of Disney adults are super into the collecting aspect of getting photos/autographs with every single Disney character that has ever existed. It's pure escapist fantasy. I imagine the point of the neighborhood is so that you feel like you're at the theme park all the time. It even referenced how the Cast Members would be available just like at the parks so I think that's the big draw - you could go outside your house and meet some prawn that was in the background of a shot in The Little Mermaid and tick another box in your endless collection.
I cannot logically fathom why people would willingly do this to themselves, why they would go to such lengths to eradicate their own freedom for fictional characters, in exchange for what? I genuinely couldn't tell you, there's a level of delusion there I can't really even process.
The creepiest part is that the neighborhood is modeled after palm springs neighborhoods, which is what inspired the houses and neighborhood's in that movie "Don't Worry Darling"
From a guy who goes to Disney World at least once a year, this is too much, even for me. I'm very invested in the lore and history of the parks, but my experience is constantly being affected by Disney vloggers and ravenous people who make it a central part of their lives. They are the worst kinds of people. Living in an entire neighborhood filled with these people would be hell on Earth. And honestly, with how things are going now with that Star Wars hotel turning into a $250 million write-off, it will not surprise me if this ends up being cancelled along with a bunch of other things that were announced and never came to be.
As a former employee at Disneyland, it's insane how many people go there despite the unreasonably high prices. I know of many people who go there all the damn time and somehow never get bored of it. These diehard Disney fans (or I like to call them Disnoid's) will 100% pay to live in that neighborhood, and it's very sad to know just how many customers Disney has a mental and financial chokehold on.
@@Brett-LW I did, I worked there as a contractor at the Grand Californian Hotel, I got and still have my green contractor ID since I'm on call to cover other contractors working there
I didn't come up with it, credit for the name goes to Every Frame A Pause (EFAP), a movie podcast run by the RUclipsr MauLer, co hosted by RUclipsrs Fringy and Rags.@@nonameno5717
The thing I don't get is how they can *afford* it, you know? Disney isn't exactly cheap, and these people go there every week like it's the supermarket. How???
You know at least with Walt Disney's original vision of Epcot as the city of the future, he didn't throw Disney logos on literally everything and planned to have amenities and commercial sector that had nothing to do with Didney Worl.
Possible fun fact here: but what from I remember this is actually something that Walt Disney himself wanted back in like the 50s or something. He genuinely wanted to create essentially a micro town with homes, jobs, stores, and all.
yeah, his original vision for EPCOT he even wanted to make sure only he made decisions for the town, & that if the residents could vote on matters it would go against his vision for a perfect community
Fun fact this isn’t a new idea from Disney, Walt himself wanted to build a community. He tried not only in the animation studio in California but also in the Florida park I believe the Tommorowland or whatever the sci-fi section is called was intended to be one.
It's wild how the most creative and pessimistic minds of multiple generations could not write or create a dystopian world akin to the one Disney is actually trying to realize.
They announced the community a while back, and it genuinely creeped me out. It's quite literally a mouse cult escape from reality. Everyone who "works" there acts in character, and the mickey symbol is present on every single product in every single household. I know they're trying to essentially create a new world/reality, but it is really unsettling.
@@marvelstarwarsfan8410 Fr, they're probably going to make a movie like that eventually. Either a Midsommar-type of movie, or the stereotypical "group of teens explores abandoned place, finds spooky secrets" type of movie
I'd expected them to build a neighbourhood for their employees, because when your boss is also your landlord you're basically suspended upside-down over the scorpion put when it comes time to negotiate wages.
There's a Defunctland episode about Walt Disney's obsession with this terrible concept and it's absolutely batshit insane. The man was obsessed to the very end.
I can imagine a Horror Movie in that town, where the main character is a big Disney Fanboy and goes to live there to fulfill his dreams, only for the town and its residents getting creepier and creepier by the day with the whole Disney stuff until he wants to leave, but something bad happens and he, let's say... finds out too much about the town's purpose
I mean there's already an entire city-state the size of Seattle where people get executed (or beaten with a cane) for doing anything that breaks the illusion of a squeaky-clean idyllic community (like using any kind of drug except alcohol to a limited extent, buying or selling porn, gambling, littering, even chewing gum), it's called Singapore.
This was Walt Disney's goal with Epcot in Flordia. It was meant to be a long-term investment, where people would live, but also had to justify their place as a member of the Epcot community. It was also meant to be a place where new experimental concepts could be tried out. It was Walt's end goal with his company but he died before he finished it. After he died the plan was abandoned.
From Wikipedia: Epcot was originally conceived by Walt Disney during the early development of Walt Disney World, as an experimental planned community that would serve as a center for American enterprise and urban living. Known as "EPCOT", an acronym for Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, the idea included an urban city center, residential areas, industrial areas, schools, and a series of mass transportation systems that would connect the community. After Disney's death in 1966, the "EPCOT" concept was abandoned, as the company was uncertain about the feasibility of operating a city.
Ever hear of Celebration? It's a community that Disney created years ago. They ended up selling it and having it become it's own neighborhood, but Disney still pays for some of the utilities for the residents. It's a lovely area and proves that Disney can create a nice neighborhood.
I am a funeral service professional, in Orlando, and I always go to Golden Oaks (a super bougie, mad, expensive neighborhood inside Disney property,) and pick up even the oldest of rich and Disney adults. It’s a wild world.
Fun fact: This was actually something Walt Disney had thought of and was actively working on until the actual day he died (there are schematics he worked on in his deathbed); a neighborhood run by Disney where you had to be actively employed and live by their rules or be evicted. A lot of those designs were eventually scaled back though, and used for what became Disney World's infrastructure
That was Walt's original concept for Epcot, the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. This isn't really similar to how Epcot was supposed to work. It was supposed to have futuristic technologies, public transit via the people mover system, lots of shared green spaces, etc.
@@warlordofbritannia You may not have sex with your spouse unless you play “Can You Feel The Love Tonight” during coitus. If you fail to finish by the time the song ends, you are executed on the spot. Mickey has snipers trained on everyone at any given moment. Smile. You’re on camera. *You’re always on camera.*
I live in the Coachella Valley which is where these homes are being built and it’s insane the amount of money the city gave to this project. They made us cut back on our water and also raised the price of water use to conserve as a back up for this community.
I'm very much reminded of the old towns where the factory owns the whole town. They own all the other businesses and rent out the houses so the money never leaves their pockets.
I could totally see it being cool with certain themed neighborhoods. Like a neighborhood themed over a rainforest or aggressively nature oriented. Also super interested in space and sci fi, so I could see some neighborhood like that bringing my interest. But with Disney being a billion dollar company and how everything has panned out for them that is very dystopian and fucked. I’m also not sure I’d want to entire neighborhood to have that theme and just be super homogeneous
@@monhi64 i agree.. having a special theme for the houses, like a sort of cabin-forest thing would be cool, but it’s very different when houses are themed after a literal business…
Imagine having a rough childhood for whatever reason and having one of the highlights being a trip to Disney. It could feel like a magical experience on that alone. An escape to a fantasy world. That's the sort of thing that could get lodged in your psyche, and get taken advantage of by people out to sell you stuff you don't need. A Disney neighborhood assures that a willing customer is constantly surrounded by their brand and merchandise, and that leads to a very alarming precedent. Now a resort space that's made up like a 'Disney neighborhood' that you rent for like a week, that doesn't seem quite as unsettling. Still an unnecessary use of money, but I could see people going for that. I'm surrounded by Airbnb, people love overpriced houses to crash in for a few days.
Fun fact: Disney did have a club called club 33. It was so shady and secretive and of course for adults only. Club 33 is now open to the public today but it is a bar, apparently club 33 before it opened to the public was rumored to have been super shady and it did have a color that Disney used to let people know that an area is off limits.
Note: I only say this as a fun fact, and I thought I could mention this because I’m bored and I don’t think this has anything to do with the the subject of this video.
I can only imagine how "people" like you get through your day. Must be tough when your thinking about what other people are doing all the time. Still under that gen jutsu though I see. It's time to wake up.
The way people treat the cast members is scary I pray for them I hope they can carry because next thing you know a imaginar comes up and tries to come at snow white,they worst than the kids thinking these people are actually the fictional characters
back in my day we used to call stuff like this a "cult"
If David Koresh didn’t want the ATF to burn those kids he should have monetized them better.
And even actual cults weren't that dystopian.
Yea it’s a cult classic lol
Mark these words, disney will not prevail as they are and their infrastructure will fall for their heinousness, there is reason why you never have heard about what happens at the top of their and other large entertainment companies. Only the real prevail.
@@LordVadelle🥁
Imagine a child being born into one of these communities and their entire life revolving around Disney. One day the child escapes into the real world and it would be like a real life version of breaking out of Barbieland.
Truman show
Grooming 101
Out of the Matrix
That sounds like a perfect movie.
literal cult
Imagine going at it with your wife in your Disney house and you look outside your window to just see goofy standing there.
I think the scariest part of this comment is physical contact with a woman 😟
goursch
I feel the magic already just thinking about it
And that's when you learn that Goofy is far more hung then you could ever imagine, and it's all over. Goofy will be ah-hyucking your wife, really making her feel the magic, every night from now on
@@REM_sheepthats fucking goofy
All I'm saying is it'd be a great setting for a horror/slasher film.
Slasher isn’t the genre that would fit this best, but yeah it’s a good horror setting
It’s like Tranquility Lane in Fallout 3
True, This sounds like something Jordan Peele came up with
The fact that a mega corporation is building a semi isolated neighborhood based around its product is beyond dystopian
Truman show
It's crazy how much people will criticize the capitalist housing market without ever actually saying the word "capitalism".
One of the reasons that so many strikers fought and died a century ago was that people were forced to live on company grounds and were paid in company currency only valid in company stores. Google also wants people to live on site. I wonder how long until these companies start their own currencies as pay again
@@hotrodflame4410fuck off commi the system works fine as long as it's checked the issue is people are to comfortable and lazy to pike a billionaire to keep the rest of em humble
It's kinda funny that the "happiest place on Earth" is embodiment of every cyberpunk setting ever, a setting based entirely around how awful the future would be if we did these things.
Its genius. Contain all the Disney adults into one place so the outside world doesn't have to deal with them anymore.
This is a literal comment Charlie reads during the twitch stream portion of the video.
Are they terrorizing you or something?
yes@@bubbabot6049
that's one way to interpret
Califlorida
I worked with a girl that was a Disney cultist. She told me once she had watched every single thing on Disney +. Even the for kids stuff. She had a Disney credit card, Disney tattoos, Disney merch, went to Disney multiple times a year, even got REALLY REALLY mad when her fiance proposed to her and it wasn't at Disney
That girl needs help. She must be using her obsession with Disney to fill a hole in her life. I actually got obsessed with comics when I was younger. I would get really upset about the smallest things over it. It was a way for me to cope and ignore the trauma of my Dad leaving. Eventually I grew up, and I realized I got too upset over or depended too my much on my comics. So I took a break and got into some other stuff and faced my problems.
I understand the rest. That's just typical nerd shit. The last one cross the line.
Holy shit
i disagree. devoting that much of your life to one franchise at the very least deserves to be examined. passion can cross into obsession pretty easily.
Sounds like she's fucking goofy... 😁
If you’ve never visited The Villages near Ocala, then you wouldn’t know that this ALREADY EXISTS. My parents live there and it’s the most dystopian, weird, fake ass place I’ve ever been. It felt like being in Westworld. They have music playing through the lamp posts in the streets, everyone that works there acts like Disney cast members. I was so ready to leave as soon as I got there. Felt like a weird cult.
Was the music always playing?
The Villages is perpetually in the 50s
@@lagle8I'd assume. Just a bunch of Disney tunes playing forever
I feel bad for the children of Disney adults, imagine being dragged into the most disguised retirement home at the age of like 9
Parenting tip 111 right there, don't get your kids involved in your obsessions.
@@quickman2663 fr, I feel kinda hypocritical because I haven’t changed my profile in months
@@quickman2663nah screw that, that'll be tip 4, no disney adult is reading 100 tips without getting offended enough to close the book.
Having loads of money and living in a multi-million dollar mansion PROBABLY mitigates a lot of that distress...
@@jack-a-lopium Nuh uh
As a person from the Palm Springs area, tons of people are largely against this project. The neighborhood design uses so much water and Palm Springs has always had drought problems. Not to mention the redlining is crazyyyy with how much these houses will cost
I remember first seeing them gate off the land and was curious what they were building just to have the most massive disappointment of the “Disney community” lol
There are already too many people living in the desert
That's never stopped housing projects by housing companies before...probably not this time either. :(
This is what I was just thinking, I’m sorry that this is happening ☹️ these types of projects just hurt everyone around the area.
Y’all need to cut off those golf courses too if we’re talking about wasting water
Remember when Disney denied a dying child his last wish to have Spider-Man on his gravestone? That really happened.
wow just read about that. heres an excerpt:
*In a statement to Jones' brother, who made the request, Disney said, "We have striven to preserve the same innocence and magic around our characters that brought Ollie such joy.
"For that reason, we follow a policy that began with Walt Disney himself that does not permit the use of characters on headstones, cemetery or other memorial markers or funeral urns,"*
@@vvhiskyy6495 Snowflakes
Tbf they did get the kid a spiderman coffin
@@Birdboy69 tbf that wasn’t his last dying wish and what good is it when the coffin is buried? That’s not a compromise, Disney is just evil and has been for a very long time.
wouldn't that be up to Sony though since Sony owns the Spiderman IP?
Defunctland has some good documentaries on Disney's original ideas for planned communities. Apparently he was so exact about his community plan for epcot that you wouldn't even be allowed to change your own lightbulbs.
It's not that you wouldn't be allowed to change your lightbulb, it's that you wouldn't have to. I freaking love the origional design for the Experimental Prototype City Of Tomorrow. I find it more utopian than dystopian, but I believe these sort of things freak people out. Epcot was not as creepy as this community Charlie is describing here. I also want to point out that the current layout of most cities is chaotic and inefficient. At least Walt Disney's designs resolved key urbanization dilemmas.
@@slish438 I mean, you would literally be signing up to be a part of an experiment in which Disney people could come into your house at any time to swap out appliances and the like. A sticking point in the design was that if the residents stayed too long, they would legally have to be given the right to elect local officials, which Walt was completely against.
If nothing else, it's weird.
I can only imagine taking a walk at night through that neighborhood only to be followed by Goofy in a trench coat
OH NO!
Gwoarrrsh!
Hey there Wisen-hiney, would yeh like tah see mah jimmy tiddly-wink? Ya-hyuh, ya-hyuh.
@@issabeganovic8822 hahah good one
@@issabeganovic8822 MFer Get back. I got a baseball bat form disney lad. AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE IT!
“vault tec calling”
I could not imagine obsessing over a fandom enough to want to live in a community that larps it all day every day
I can lol
I absolutely can.
i can
I cannot. To those above me: Stop it. Get some help.
Imagine living in a neighborhood where all they talk about is Star Wars, I would unalive by the end of day 3
Man-made dystopian horrors aside, living in a place like that seems like it'd get old very quick for anyone not terminally mousebrained. It'd be like the part in Mickey's Once Upon A Christmas where Huey Louie and Dewey wish that it was Christmas every day and eventually get sick of it, except I'm sure it'd be _way_ easier to undo a wish than it would be to try to escape Disney after selling your soul to them.
you mean mickey-brained?
Yo! I remember that movie lol
Honestly, I think that if those actual adults actually were critikal of what they saw and stuff, they probably would have gotten tired already, because they already just mindlessly consume. Also they probably would be more aware of how shady Disney has been, or realized how weird Walt was
that movie had no right to go as hard as it did.
The idea of Disney marketing an entire community on the idea of it being this ideal, somewhat removed from reality location is some textbook cyberpunk material. Leaving the harshness of the real world behind to live in a sanitized corporate pen
Cyberpunk 2077 kinda vibes
god thats fucking terrifying o_o
“Celebration, Florida” was Disney made … back in the day … this is a second take
It’s like they thought WALL-E was an instruction manual.
Plato's Cave.
I've met multiple couples who go to Disney like 3 or 4 times a year. One couple even had their three kids (7-12) who were absolutely sick of going. It was crazy to listen to a 7 year old beg to stay with their grandparents because they're already tired of going! No matter how much they complained though, they were still going to Disney for vacation! The other couples weren't any better either. It's like the parents had convinced themselves that this was all for their kids when it was them who were addicted to going. I just had to cut them all out.
I mean, I knew people like this too, and my family even did it somewhat, but we’re semi-locals (around 2 hours away) and so it was a weekend trip. I wouldn’t say we necessarily got tired of going to disney, but it wasn’t like, a magical experience. It was the equivalent to someone’s weekend beach trip or something. Knowing others nearby helped because it often became a trip with friends, or even family that we’re visiting from afar that we were kind of guides for, lol.
Anyway, they have since jacked the price for seasonal/annual tickets DRAMATICALLY since I was a kid, so we don’t do that anymore and haven’t for several years. But I do still consider disney a weekend trip kind of deal internally, since I knew many people who did this, even those without a ton of money, back in the day. Since Floridians got discounts and all that.
Yeah I’m in that family lol
I always enjoyed going to Disney but it’s definitely gotten overpriced and one of my parents I will say WAS unhealthily obsessed for a bit lol and they definitely believed that Disney was 100% pure, or at least 99% 💀
However that’s not to say that I didn’t immensely enjoy going to Disney and I remember it being so much fun… eventually it became a little too much and in a way became my second home and it probably shouldn’t have
I would NEVER live there it sounds horrible and I value my freedom :)
Imagine your kids being sick of going to Disney..
Those parents literally sound like the most deplorable and insane parents ever
They were addicted to waiting in 2 hour long lines to get on one 10 second ride
As someone who worked in the parks, the worst Disney adults are the ones in big groups with matching T-shirts. And Im not talking like school groups, I'm talking like groups of 25 thirty-something year olds all wearing "drink around the world" shirts. I worked at Oga's Cantina in Galaxy's Edge and seating them was always a nightmare and half of them were already wasted before even entering the bar.
I wonder what the ratio is of karens of Disney Adults to Regular Adults.
I'm guessing something around to 100:2
Yes lol.
@crodas6168it’s pretty clear that they don’t work there anymore meaning they got a better job that pays more.
Why would you wear a “drink around the world” shirt to Hollywood Studios? That’s not even the right park; those are dumb Disney adults!
All I’m getting from this comment is that you’re mad because adults went to Disney world while you had to work a shit job lol
The crazy thing is, this has already existed. There is a neighborhood in Disney that has houses that are completely themed Disney that sell for on average 10 million dollars. Its truly insane
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY RUclips! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
Yeah! I knew this concept sounded familiar. I thought I was going insane for a second there thinking they never existed lmfao. I always heard rumors as a kid that that particular Disney community was some cult or Stepford Wives situation lmfao
IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN
@@ShyShy_999 we really have to appreciate people that actually are here that aren’t bots sometime, like the comment you sent, was actually typed, not auto sent after like 30 seconds of the videos release
my aunt is obsessed with disney and i dont understand why but they go like twice a week
This reminds me so much of those company towns that coal companies would build near the mines, where the company owned your house and you were paid in company scrip (instead of real currency), which can only be used at the company store.
RDR lore
Would? They still do that...
@@hybridShinx Annesburg didn't even have a General Store or Saloon which bothers me in a historical & Gameplay sense
Imagine you live here and befriend your neighbours and end up knowing them for years and then finding out their a Disney employee and just doing their job. Lmao
Truman show vibes
Like a longer version of that show where actors befriended some random guy
Like some 21 Jump Street Johnny Depp undercover type stuff
They’re *
It's crazy there's an indie game that came out recently (American Arcadia) about a massive entertainment industry corporation who created a city and the main character discovers that like half the population are actors. Really great game !
Inspired by Epcot and Truman show.
Yeah, because creating gated communities and distancing them from reality is such a wonderful and totally not manipulative concept. Sounds like the beginning of a dystopian novel. Way to go Disney.
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They are using the neighbourhood as the foundation of their next movie plot since they keep running out of ideas
It's crazy how much people will criticize the capitalist housing market without ever actually saying the word "capitalism".
You're essentially describing the super wealthy (SUUUUPER wealthy) families in the US, because that's exactly what they do. They go off and live in gated communities with other SUPER wealthy people, private educations, etc... never interacting with reality. Then these very same people turn around and become our elected leaders lmfao. Anywayssss, yeah not a great idea.
they did the same thing with jonestown.
They already have a crazy gated community with multi million dollar properties and the craziest part is even though you pwn the house you're not allowed to even paint a wall without prior approval from Disney.
It's crazy, but not gated. It's a lot like the Truman show.
Disney, the ultimate HOA
😂
Didn't Walt Disney himself have plans for a Disney town or some equivalent?
@@ratbastian
EPCOT, though he died before it could come to fruition. On the other hand, Henry Ford had several such microstates, so this still happened before anyways.
My former boss (the director of a daycare) favored going thousands of dollars in debt every year to take her 4 kids to Disney multiple times a year - like usually 4 or 5 times every single year. It's crazy to me that she among others would go bananas for something like this. It straight up sounds like a dystopian nightmare waiting to happen 💀
Fun fact. This is actually the type of thing that Walt Disney himself wanted. His original design of EPCOT, before he died, was an entire community for people who work for Disney or their sponsors. It would have everything you would need, shops, entertainment, that type of thing. The thing is, his plan was going to make it an attraction. I wouldn’t be surprised if they allow people to tour the place.
Also, his plan was to have beta technology in the houses, tech that the community were not allowed to reject. This would happen while you were or weren’t home, where they just come in and replace your fridge or something. You were not allowed to refuse it. Also Walt wanted to control everything, basically becoming a dictator to the neighbourhood. He knew what was best, and he stripped any ability for the community to be able to vote, or change where they lived.
Back then, everyone called Walt crazy, and basically axed the project once he died, changing it to the Epcot we know. Now they’re doing it themselves. It’s insane. Please, if you are thinking of living there, look into every part of the terms, what you’re expected to do/have, and what they do in the community. I’m not gonna knock you for wanting to go, just be careful :).
epcot center fan here, i was recently reviewing walts orignal plans for E.P.C.O.T and i was shocked at how legitimately dystopian they were 💀i believe part of the plan was to have corporate rule over democracy. wild
That just sounds like a company town, which has historically been a way to legally enslave anyone without calling it slavery.
I recently saw a documentary on this and it was so eerie and creepy how obsessed he was with these plans. I was glad that it never became a real thing and now this is just insane
So a company town.
@@aerocyte3359most of the things Walt Disney did and said were wild. He wasn’t really a great guy lmao
Imagine living your life there and discovering your girlfriend was actually just a cast member as part of the experience.
"Your girlfriend privileges have been revoked by Disney" sounds terrifying alright.
@@viczofrenia >tfw no Disney government-mandated princess gf
Isn't that part of the Truman show plot?
Stop opening every sentence with imagine
@@smileyphantom2838 it is.
Former Disney employee here: cast member is the blanket term that Disney uses to describe their workers. Before Walt Disney died, he tried to plan for a city that he controlled - EPCOT. There would definitely be events. Having worked at Walt Disney World, firework shows would be set off every night at 9:20 sharp, just for the sake of being extra. Extra is Disney’s main motto.
EPCOT is a park in Disney World, and all that stuff happens. EPCOT was meant to showcase technology and predictions for the future. I mean, that’s what the park said anyway. Who knows, I’ve probably been fooled lol
Can verify Disney being extra (Former Epcot merch, still local).. Celebration was super dystopian but Golden Oaks is kind of charming in my opinion but I’m the target demographic 😂
@@xWatexx Walt's vison for EPCOT was a futuristic city, but he died before that became a thing and it thankfully became a showcase for new technology instead. Defunctland's documentary on it is pretty good imo..
That concept became Celebration, but it didn't preform well with how strict the HOA was. Now Celebration is a great example of a well planned new urbanist neighborhood. It's actually pretty nice, and isn't even gated.
Former Disney employee...? Looks like we got a digital ghost here.
I wouldn’t be surprised if 10 years from now, I’m seeing a news article about one of the residents living there getting kicked out because someone was walking by their house and heard a movie they were watching “have too much violence”.
kicked out? no, i can imagine worse. they would “re-educate” you and make sure you dont leave under the scripted reason of “you will spread unhappiness to the world”. We shall make sure you only spread “happiness” once you are in here and can only speak positively about disney under ANY circumtances
“why would you want to leave? this is the happiest living place in the world. Oh no…it seems you are broken. Poor you….dont worry we can fix you right up and make you happy again”
"Kicked Out of Dreamland: The Cotino Story
Coming 2034"
@@TheKnightCrafter123 We Happy Few, huh? You're probably forced to take a hallucination drug in order to live there.
i'm not concerned about the spies or the "cast" because i know people have to be rational after all , i'm concerned about the children that will get raised there and they will literally make disney their whole childhood , that's just scary
Yeah idk how these kids are gonna adjust to the real world should they ever leave! It will be the latest version of people leaving communities built around extreme lifestyles. Think ex-cult members, conspiracy theorists, religious fundamentalists, etc.
LOL! You're deluded if you think the average person is rational, let alone any "disney adult".
@Sweet_Dee i understand but like , disney is literally a company for like fantasy cartoon . it's not like a cult not a religion or anything normal , it's like imprisoning a person with only one tv channel just playing over and over agian
@@Sweet_Dee what i mean is they're gonna have to adapt to their environment and their environment is literally just fictional fantasy cartoon characters. that's not healthy
Hi! Person who lived in Celebration, FL here. Not a lot of people know about Celebration but it was originally developed by Disney and was “supposed to be” what the ideal image of Epcot was supposed to be. Epcot stands for Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. In the end its just another place in Florida lol. Nobody is Disney worshipping shit
What’s really infuriating is they could’ve made affordable housing for the employees that work in the park.
Why would they do that when they can just fire them?
Another 9,000 Disney workers are being laid off in the name of cutting costs, but axing the creepy Disney desert cult community that is bound to cost several billion is just not an option, I guess...
I thought we all agreed to not bring back company towns
@giannadimaggio2383 exactly what I thought of
Every builder/developer of any residential buildings could. But then capitalism. ::shrugs::
If they did this, getting fired would also mean getting evicted
Disney adults are like the embodiment of, "I never got the chance to be a kid" Kinda sad.
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY RUclips! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
What?
real
Honestly living near Disneyland and using your paycheck to go there weekly sounds pretty fun tbh
@@quartdude 😱💯😱💯🗣🗣🔥🔥
This is honestly beyond insane that someone would willingly live in a corpo town.
Cyberpunk 2077
The biggest problem with a Disney neighborhood in my opinion is the novelty would wear thin quickly. Disney World is fun to go to sometimes but living there would make it feel less special.
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You know good and damn well essentials would be overpriced as hell too. The prices at the park are bad enough but if they keep those prices
See I would agree with you but I know people from my hometown who go into debt every year to visit Disney multiple times a year. Like they live in an RV because they would rather be at Disney multiple times than live in a normal house. So bizarre to me.
@@markieclift2193 Huh then I guess I am a normal Disney fan. Universal is better. There are more fast rollercoasters. Hershey Park is the best. You actually get to go on the rides. LOL
A community where a single company would be in charge of everything, the shops and facilities are all operated by "cast memebers". Seriously how is this *not* considered creepy by everyone?
The old coal mine and factory towns used to function like that the company would pay in funny money and people could only spend it at company stores
@@dillpickle5616 what was that practice called again? I know it had a term because the US government had to ban it in the late 1800's or early 1900's because of how bad it got
@@AMan-xz7txCompany Towns
Literally straight out of the Truman Show
@@AMan-xz7tx its called Company scrip it became illegal in the usa under Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938
Jesus, imagine the disney neighbourhood homeowners association, that's gotta be an actual nightmare.
We don't have to imagine. The imagineers will make it real for us
Easy, the Neighborhood Assosiation zone's Imagineers, or for a more shortened version, NAZ--oh no
Good point! 😂
"Gollee, gee willickers!!! Looks like your hedges are 3 inches over the concrete curb edge, again! *hoo-hoo*
Celebration, Florida gives us a really good idea of what will happen
Two observations: 1. Disney calls them cast members to avoid employment titles that have legal protections
2. I see Disney is trying to improve the PhilDickian dystopia’s market share
I worked there and trust me they have official employment titles. Cast member is just a blanket term.
Cast member is just what they call all of their employees, I worked in a shop and my job title was literally customer service representative on paper. Stop spreading misinformation
Why do you have so many likes even though you’re so wrong
@@Jiub_SNmy Mom was a Cast Member in the 70's. She said they were all called Cast Members because Everyones job is Important
Proof for #1?
Funny thing about this is that the location they chose for this storyliving community is about a 2 hour drive away from disneyland. You could get a place much closer for (presumably) much cheaper
Don't worry, they'll have an Elon tunnel straight into Donald Ducks cloaca with only a marginal chance of everyone dying of asphyxiation down in the gamer RGB LED lit underground.
They will be flown in private jet, carbon emissions who?
Oh wow, I didn't even look to see where it's located. Yeah, Rancho Mirage is NOT close, especially given the shitty traffic down there. At least Golden Oak had the good sense of been located within the overall Disney World resort.
Very strange.
@@fluidthought42That sounds oddly specific.
Well you dont want everyone that goes to disney there
My mom's ex-boyfriend's sister (ex-almost-step-aunt?), sold her house to move down there right next to the park in Florida. She had her whole house done in Disney before she sold it. Turned out to be too expensive, now they live in an RV behind her mother's house. They had four kids in that RV before two moved out.
Terrifying the level of obsession these people get to...
Little edit P.S: they still go to the park at least 4-5 times a year.
It's a shame there's nothing in their finances that they could save money on in order to get out of the RV 😔
They need mental help if they're that obsessed with a theme park.
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She didn't check the housing price in the area before or she's too obsessed?
Do they still live near the park? Cause damn that's quite a bit of money to go there that many times a year
In college I read a book called Snow Crash for a class. It was supposed to be a dystopian world that was more satire on the cyberpunk genre. Well written. A major part of the world building is that the US slowly sold off chunks of land to corporations that owned neighborhoods. So it begins.
This wouldn’t actually happen, the federal and state governments give corporations enough tax breaks as it is and give them privileges to basically do as they please in certain circumstances. Although, after DeSantis recently stripped away Disney’s privileges in Disney World, we could see the reversal of this trend. I would definitely vote republican if they put the “war on wokeness” to the sidelines and made stripping the privileges of corporations their no 1 priority. But, who knows what will happen after 2024.
That began over a decade ago. Chinese corporations have been buying up land and residential areas in the U.S. for years. It's horrifying and is only getting worse. Disney joining the game is just proof of how far it's already gone for them to be like "golly, we need in on THAT!"
@@ironiceireDesantis only did that because Disney is woke so I wouldn’t count on seeing it happen again.
@@ironiceirerepublicans at large will never do this because they are bought and sold by those exact corporations. Only reason DeSantis is going after Disney is because he thinks they're woke, not realizing they're only woke on a superficial level, and he's so lost in the sauce that he actually buys into his own culture war clown show.
@@Cartmansrevenge42069 And Desantis got his ass handed to him because he's an idiot. I would never defend Disney & their like for the weird shit that they pull on a regular basis, but this was just too funny to not enjoy.
This was announced ages ago, and there already is an existing disney neighbourhoud at wdw. Its super weird, they have very strict rules. There have been basically no updates on Storyliving afaik, they probably abandoned the idea.
I guess you could say it’s Abandoned by Disney
I think the reason it "didn't work" with the last neighborhood is because a guy murdered his entire family there, and people didn't feel comfortable/safe there after that.
I took that as a sign that doing something like this will definitely drive people insane because it definitely isnt healthy to be this dedicated; but i guess disney thought different
That case was wild!
Whats the case?
@@leitnerleitnerleitner the todt family murders
Regarding surveillance and ownage from a creative's point of view; I lived on Disney grounds via their College Program back in 08 and boy that was already a hard pill to swallow; had to hide the fact I was an artist working on my own original material during my stay, because they can legally put a vice grip on your work and claim it as Disney's property while you're still onsite. Imagine being the child or young adult wanting to pursue their creative passions, but they are stuck living in the Disneyburbs with parents that have permanently stapled mouse ears to their heads knowing they will likely have to keep their non-Disney adjacent stories to themselves until they can escape from the Happiest Place on Earth.
I'm gonna be real: this sounds EXACTLY like a dystopian novel I've read but I can't for the life of me remember the name of it.
@@PikminchickLiterally 1984
@@triggeredtiger9773 1984, fahrenheit 451, the giver, you name it. the "don't build the torment nexus" joke is becoming less and less of a joke now
@Antonio-GransciI know better than to comment on RUclips but holy sh*t bro. You realize that media is used as allegories and to expose problems in society right? And why the heck bring up zoomers lol. Their comment is ambiguous to age and time period. You are probably just a troll but still lmao. Seems like you have issues with society that you put in RUclips comments when you should write a book.
imagine you come back home and see your kids shitty drawing of a rainbow now has a disney copyright logo on it
As a terrible Disney Adult, I have experienced a fraction of this as part of the Disney College Program living, working, breathing Disney, and while it's fun at first, the Disney fatigue sets in pretty quick.
I was searching the comments for one from a DCP Alum. I loved my year there (WDW) … then it took like 3-5 years for me to detach Disney as part of my identity and just make it a thing that I did after college.
Joo Dee: There is no fatigue in Ba Sin Se, I mean, Disney.
what on earth made you want to spend so much time on disney? did it feel like it came from your own will?
@@TheJesster522I’m guessing they brainwashed u as well
Omg I just googled it and it seems like you're kinda just working at Disney?? I can't imagine spending a semester or even a year at Disney while also WORKING there. No escape omg
Ah yes, the “would have been an Onion video ten years ago” genre of dystopian ideas
I work at Disney, for 10 years now, and I was surprised when I found out 6 years ago that there was one family who won the lotto and chose to rent out a camp site at Fort wilderness for an entire year and just lived there and ate at restaurants and went to the park daily. Absolutely insane
Oh well if that's comfortable for them then let them be.
Ngl i liked working at disney during my time there and hope to work there with my major, but its insane how far people go for the parks. Sometimes the coworkers act odd like the disney fans. I met either smart insightful people or just fans that make you feel out of place
@@NetBattler this is why modern society is so degenerate
"Oh it doesn't bother you why do you care"
Tolerance =/= acceptance
That’s sounds kinda fun, and also sounds like bullshit. Also just wanna say, I appreciate what you do.
@@Twiddle_thingsbut why DO you care? How does that affect your life? Live and let live, you have your own life to worry about. What’s it to you that some people choose to live their own lives in their own way? As long as they aren’t hurting anybody, I don’t see the need to be so judgemental over how people choose to live their lives.
Needless judgment is a great source of pain in life, I’ve found.
disney has ALWAYS wanted to do this. i remember growing up in orlando and hearing about an "all inclusive neighborhood where you never have to leave!" since 2005
Walt Disney himself even had ideas for a literal city to be built. Epcot was the name I believe.
@@femboy4rumMars yeah, Epcot ended up becoming just a mostly normal section of the park but the original idea was for it to be a whole city owned and controlled by Disney. i've even read that part of the idea was that the city would be encased in a giant bubble of some kind, and that Disney would be able to control the weather??? super weird shit tbh.
Wtf
@negligible_reality The difference between Epcot and this is that Epcot was supposed to be a futuristic community with experimental technology, automation, public transit, and they were going to partner with companies so people could work close to home. This is just some Disney branded nonsense that has none of the upsides that epcot theoretical would have.
More like “have to never leave”
This project reminds me so much of The Truman Show. I can only imagine talking to your "neighbor" and figuring out there a cast member.
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Exactly what I was thinking!
There's a book about this exact thing happening. "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" by Cory Doctorow. The context is that in the (dystopian) future, people live and work in a corporate society owned by Disney. I wonder if Disney execs read the book and were like "That sounds like a good idea!".
It's like something out of a cheesy dystopia horror film, this is creepy and quite frankly scared how much they can try to range a neighborhood and turn it into their personal capitalist crony neighborhood
@Susnation532these bots are always so goofy
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Regrettably, there are many adults who experience the 'Peter Pan syndrome,' where they remain physically mature but mentally hold onto a childlike perspective.
So basically, the actual moral of the original Peter Pan story, before it was “Disney-fied” to celebrate Peter Pan’s childlike perspective.
They are traumatized and desperate to cope, bc of a mix of society failing and expectations they had set by childhood
Facts… I was always so confused in high school when I’d see other high schoolers around me obsessed with Disney. I’d be like did y’all never grow up? So you can imagine my shock at finding out that whole grown ass adults are still into that shit. WILD. Glad I was always a Cartoon Network kid lol
@@Alex-vm6ef Looks like their prince didn't come after all. Still, given the prices for Disneyland, Disneyworld, and basically anything else "Disney" these days, clearly many of them can keep it together long enough to hold a decent-paying job and afford going to these theme parks more than once in their lives.
Its a bit weird to live in a Disney themed neighborhood. But we don't have to start drudging up questionable pop psychology from the 80s every time we think something's unusual
It sounds like a college campus(or fancy gated neighborhood) but with an oddly ominous aura. Like something evil is lurking but you’re not quite sure what it is.
It has some major cult-y undertones, it's really disturbing
We are sure though, it's Disney.
The ghost of Walt Disney lingers forever
Welcome to his Liminal Land
There was an episode of X-Files like that. And this reminds me of it.
This sounds a lot like company towns. I first heard of them from a book called The Glace Bay Miner's Museum. It's a historical fiction but basically it's about how workers slaved away for this mining company, and they really had no way out because their homes, their shops, everything was all owned by the mining company.
Literally serfdom but without farmland and just the homes themselves. I think this Disney neighborhood is quite literally going to be the building block of modern or future serfdom. Instead of having a cool smart home with a walkable city and a safe neighborhood, we get a cooperation literally governing over you to the point where you have no freedom at all. I really hope this is only restricted to the die hard fans of corporations bro........
Ok but this is unironically a thing that did happen IRL and one of the main causes of the coal miner's strikes that culminated in the battle of blair mountain, companies would make entire towns and even print their own currency to the workers had no chance to leave
Glace Bay in Cape Breton?
@@preciousmourning8310 yep!
Back to the 1800s i see
Literally, Liminal Land mentioned how they built a complex for their guests to move in forever to be eventually sacrifice to demons. Good to see that Disney's taking some inspiration.
We need to put this at the top of the comment section
Limin land
It's Limin' time @@jogaro7658
@@jogaro7658lemon land
I dated a Disney adult, definitely the most maturely stunted person I’ve ever been with
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I think the Disney adult epidemic is from people who never really grew up or had bad childhoods. they sort of cling to the comforts of being a kid and use Disney to do it in adulthood.
@Antonio-Granscibut funko pop Darth maul is epic 😎
@Antonio-Gransci wokeness; which is all about complaining complaining about people complaining. Oh the irony
@@gazmodiusI mean, the only person I know who’s a Disney Adult actually had abusive parents. She used disney to cope with her shitty childhood as a kid, then it stuck with her as an adult. I think it’s just a mix.
I'm surprised the word "cult" was only used once in passing, because this is actually trying to establish a mask-off Disney cult. I can only imagine people in Mickey costumes handing out the kool-aid when it inevitably falls apart.
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And they all stay in character to the end. ahyuck!
If there is a Disney church would Mickey be in the Cross?
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078
No, Oswald would be on the cross.
Mickey would be the main preacher, so he could get all the money
sounds worse than the Mythic Dawn (that's an Oblivion reference, for those of you who played Oblivion)
I remember visiting celebration on holiday and it was the most uncanny experience. They had a six person limit sign outside their basketball courts, most things were shut and the town hotel was borderline empty from what I recall. Safe to say I’m in no rush to return.
You described this perfectly 😭😭😭
Since the neighborhood is technically owned by Disney, and given their obsession with a family friendly image, if you did something they didn't deem apropiate, could they kick you out of your own house?
They would 100% do this
Inappropriate behavior is a breach of contract and you will pay a fine. Inappropriate behavior is whatever Disney wants it to be. 🌈
"You have been banned from the Mickey Mouse club for inappropriate behavior" but unironically
nice pfp
Imagine a security guard dressed in a Goofy suit beating on your door in the middle of the night… “Good evening sir, it seems you haven’t been abiding by the rules of our perfect magical community! It looks like you violated article 251 section 3 of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse guidelines, and you know what that means… Ohhhh TOOOOODLES! 🎶”
Imagine being in a Disney only neighborhood, where the HOA enforces smiles and the penalty for watching Netflix is banishment to the Tower of Unhappiness
Walt Disney's original idea for EPCOT was a futuristic city where transit would be idealized and the different streets would look like different cities from around the world. And while yes, Disney would be the company to start it, it was going to be an _actual city,_ not a place for the company to earn money from theme park obsessions. I really wish we could have seen how the original plan for EPCOT would have turned out, because it's a really interesting concept. 'Storyliving' is just creepy. And greedy.
I mean to be fair, EPCOT was essentially run by Disney. He’d essentially be an overlord, but unfortunately he died before it was done. However, it wasn’t supposed to be connected to any of his ideas or theming. He thought history would remember him as a cartoon and theme park guy, rather than someone who changed the planet for the better.
@@kinocorner976
*fortunately he died before it was done
EPCOT in turn was basically riffed from social experiments by Ford and other industrial giants; they’d basically buy a chunk of land in a 2.5th World country and run a little dictatorship based on twisted utopian ideals. Divorce would be illegal, there would be its own currency (unavailable for exchange with legitimate currencies, of course), everyone was required to have a job, etc.
If you played Fallout New Vegas you would know it would pretty much be The strip from that game run by Mr House aka Disney pretty much, its sad cause Disney was an amazing dude, truly an inspiring person who stopped at nothing to reach his dreams pretty based, now we have the distopic undead megacorp that ruins everything fuelled by propaganda and greed.
There was issues with EPCOT but at least he was trying genuinely make a unique community. This is literally just a neighborhood but you pay extra to get sponsored commercials to you daily.
I hope by 'cast members' they meant that people like store employees, librarians, matinance workers etc are all Disney cast members in costume. That'd be insane
God damn, once again Charlie hitting us with those heart stopping jumpscares right off the bat.
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@@goofy.-yx2gjpretty sure they do it for financial reasons and attention.
It’s fairly insane how often corporations have done stuff like this. It’s not even a remotely new concept considering Henry Ford did this in the 30s with Fordlandia.
And now fordlandia is just called the USA
wasn’t fordlandia more of a community for their workers to keep everything “convenient” where they could all live and work in the same succinct area
@@tahaloutfi8844pretty sure fordlandia was located somewhere in South America where they were able to grow rubber trees
edit: i realize you were likely joking 😅💀
@@laer.393😂
Wasn’t that a company town? This isn’t a company town.
It's basically Uncanny Valley: the neighborhood. Getting so close to living in an actual fantasy, but not quite reaching the mark, so it invokes feelings of terror.
Are we forgetting about Celebration Florida? It’s a whole Disney area that shoots confetti out of the streetlights to simulate snow
The SpongeBob reference about Squidward going to that squid only community, with the same Easter island head house, to be alone is the best comparison lol. Charles is right on the money with that one. I would imagine though it would be worse because the community could easily become some sort of Disney cult with all these fanatical Disney Adults running around. I wouldn’t be shocked if it was successful that horror channels on RUclips would make videos titled something like The Cult of Disney or the Creepiest Neighborhood on Earth. Wild stuff.
We already in hell. We just haven’t started it yet 😅
@@NitwitsWorld😂😂 you sure we haven't started
@@OlaSax-gz7qo 😂
If you think the concept of a neighborhood is crazy, Walt Disney originally created the concept for an entire town. He wanted to create a utopia (dubbed EPCOT) that was his official vision of the future. It included entire communities with a working force, underground subway systems, and futuristic homes. Defunctland did a really great video on this
And history repeats itself with this neighborhood shit.
I actually did a paper on this. Super interesting. Experimental Prototype City Of Tomorrow. Everything would be under a dome to control the weather and people would be continuously introduced to new products to try by having their stuff switched out into their own home.
But if it was under Walt Disney, it wouldn’t abuse fundamental human rights as much
@@1of8plusbillionI can't tell if you're joking or not
@@blujaebird fixed it
This is actually a genius idea, disney is going to isolate all of the disney adults from the rest of society.
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Lived literally right across the street from this development for a few years. Watched all of groundbreaking although not building. This is potentially the worst idea of all time. Not only is Disney planning on using unfathomable amounts of water for this place, they are jeopardizing a massive part of the local economy at the same time - golf courses. They all need the water more. Not to mention the wave parks other companies are building in the desert. I’ve since moved out but can’t wait to hear how poorly all of this goes.
I know a Disney adult in Hong Kong. She has a huge amount of Disney merch, tons of Disney tattoos, and goes to Disney every time that she can. She has an annual pass or something so she can go as often as she likes without paying to get in. The main draw seems to be new merch drops along with the "Cast Members" - basically just the people dressed up as Disney characters or in mascot suits or whatever that walk around, do parades, and have meet-and-greets. From what I understand the schedule for these things constantly changes and a lot of Disney adults are super into the collecting aspect of getting photos/autographs with every single Disney character that has ever existed.
It's pure escapist fantasy. I imagine the point of the neighborhood is so that you feel like you're at the theme park all the time. It even referenced how the Cast Members would be available just like at the parks so I think that's the big draw - you could go outside your house and meet some prawn that was in the background of a shot in The Little Mermaid and tick another box in your endless collection.
I imagine the nighborhood to be similar to the creepy towns in bethesda games where the npcs are secretly cannibals or something.
Disney making a neighbourhood reminds me of Abandoned by Disney.
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I cannot logically fathom why people would willingly do this to themselves, why they would go to such lengths to eradicate their own freedom for fictional characters, in exchange for what? I genuinely couldn't tell you, there's a level of delusion there I can't really even process.
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The creepiest part is that the neighborhood is modeled after palm springs neighborhoods, which is what inspired the houses and neighborhood's in that movie "Don't Worry Darling"
From a guy who goes to Disney World at least once a year, this is too much, even for me.
I'm very invested in the lore and history of the parks, but my experience is constantly being affected by Disney vloggers and ravenous people who make it a central part of their lives. They are the worst kinds of people.
Living in an entire neighborhood filled with these people would be hell on Earth. And honestly, with how things are going now with that Star Wars hotel turning into a $250 million write-off, it will not surprise me if this ends up being cancelled along with a bunch of other things that were announced and never came to be.
@@tealishpotato if they had made the price cheaper and fleshed out the storyline and introduced more things then it would've become a success.
As a former employee at Disneyland, it's insane how many people go there despite the unreasonably high prices. I know of many people who go there all the damn time and somehow never get bored of it. These diehard Disney fans (or I like to call them Disnoid's) will 100% pay to live in that neighborhood, and it's very sad to know just how many customers Disney has a mental and financial chokehold on.
Yeah you didn’t work at Disney 😂
@@Brett-LW I did, I worked there as a contractor at the Grand Californian Hotel, I got and still have my green contractor ID since I'm on call to cover other contractors working there
I would like to hear how so you come out with the name disnoid, cause that's a great name
I didn't come up with it, credit for the name goes to Every Frame A Pause (EFAP), a movie podcast run by the RUclipsr MauLer, co hosted by RUclipsrs Fringy and Rags.@@nonameno5717
The thing I don't get is how they can *afford* it, you know? Disney isn't exactly cheap, and these people go there every week like it's the supermarket. How???
The timing was strategic as well. More people work from home now, meaning those can be literal closed neighborhoods once the houses are occupied.
The "cast members" part really just sells the fact they want to create the Truman Show
This feels so dystopian! Could you imagine other fan bases start doing this and instead of states and countries there’s just fan base cities
Where’s Domino City?
There's an actual town named Eromanga in Australia. Imagine it being turned into questionable anime-themed neighborhood for weebs.
@@jhawkshaw that’s nightmare fuel right there
imagine discord town 😰
Alternate universe where reddit island didn’t fumble twice
You know at least with Walt Disney's original vision of Epcot as the city of the future, he didn't throw Disney logos on literally everything and planned to have amenities and commercial sector that had nothing to do with Didney Worl.
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Not to mention the whole industrial district it was supposed to have, featuring DuPont and GE
@@athrowaway3487Dupont ended up poisoning the people working for the company and the ppl living close to their manufacturing plant
i love didney worl
Possible fun fact here: but what from I remember this is actually something that Walt Disney himself wanted back in like the 50s or something. He genuinely wanted to create essentially a micro town with homes, jobs, stores, and all.
Yikes,even after he died Walt’s Spirit haunts the world.
@@marvelstarwarsfan8410he's like ganondorf 😂
yeah, his original vision for EPCOT
he even wanted to make sure only he made decisions for the town, & that if the residents could vote on matters it would go against his vision for a perfect community
It's actually shocking how similar his vision was compared to Andrew Ryan and rapture from BioShock.
Fun fact this isn’t a new idea from Disney, Walt himself wanted to build a community. He tried not only in the animation studio in California but also in the Florida park I believe the Tommorowland or whatever the sci-fi section is called was intended to be one.
It's wild how the most creative and pessimistic minds of multiple generations could not write or create a dystopian world akin to the one Disney is actually trying to realize.
They announced the community a while back, and it genuinely creeped me out. It's quite literally a mouse cult escape from reality. Everyone who "works" there acts in character, and the mickey symbol is present on every single product in every single household. I know they're trying to essentially create a new world/reality, but it is really unsettling.
This would make a great horror Movie concept
Reminds me of the Opening scene of the Lego movie
@@marvelstarwarsfan8410make it a little more cartoony and it would be even more horrifying
@@marvelstarwarsfan8410 Fr, they're probably going to make a movie like that eventually. Either a Midsommar-type of movie, or the stereotypical "group of teens explores abandoned place, finds spooky secrets" type of movie
I'd expected them to build a neighbourhood for their employees, because when your boss is also your landlord you're basically suspended upside-down over the scorpion put when it comes time to negotiate wages.
Yeah they might as well just not pay the employees and say that they aren’t paying them because rent and hoa fees took up their whole paycheck
There's a Defunctland episode about Walt Disney's obsession with this terrible concept and it's absolutely batshit insane. The man was obsessed to the very end.
I can imagine a Horror Movie in that town, where the main character is a big Disney Fanboy and goes to live there to fulfill his dreams, only for the town and its residents getting creepier and creepier by the day with the whole Disney stuff until he wants to leave, but something bad happens and he, let's say... finds out too much about the town's purpose
Kinda like Hot Fuzz but make it Disney
And instead of "The greater good" its "Only consume." XD
I mean there's already an entire city-state the size of Seattle where people get executed (or beaten with a cane) for doing anything that breaks the illusion of a squeaky-clean idyllic community (like using any kind of drug except alcohol to a limited extent, buying or selling porn, gambling, littering, even chewing gum), it's called Singapore.
This was Walt Disney's goal with Epcot in Flordia. It was meant to be a long-term investment, where people would live, but also had to justify their place as a member of the Epcot community. It was also meant to be a place where new experimental concepts could be tried out. It was Walt's end goal with his company but he died before he finished it. After he died the plan was abandoned.
From Wikipedia:
Epcot was originally conceived by Walt Disney during the early development of Walt Disney World, as an experimental planned community that would serve as a center for American enterprise and urban living. Known as "EPCOT", an acronym for Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, the idea included an urban city center, residential areas, industrial areas, schools, and a series of mass transportation systems that would connect the community. After Disney's death in 1966, the "EPCOT" concept was abandoned, as the company was uncertain about the feasibility of operating a city.
Yup, real dystopian stuff-like the jokes about how we live under the boot of the Mouse but there’s no joke.
A horrifying dystopia at it's finest from Disney.
Epcot flashbacks
*Dystopian Capitalism
fixed that for ya
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Ever hear of Celebration? It's a community that Disney created years ago. They ended up selling it and having it become it's own neighborhood, but Disney still pays for some of the utilities for the residents. It's a lovely area and proves that Disney can create a nice neighborhood.
I am a funeral service professional, in Orlando, and I always go to Golden Oaks (a super bougie, mad, expensive neighborhood inside Disney property,) and pick up even the oldest of rich and Disney adults. It’s a wild world.
Fun fact: This was actually something Walt Disney had thought of and was actively working on until the actual day he died (there are schematics he worked on in his deathbed); a neighborhood run by Disney where you had to be actively employed and live by their rules or be evicted. A lot of those designs were eventually scaled back though, and used for what became Disney World's infrastructure
That was Walt's original concept for Epcot, the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. This isn't really similar to how Epcot was supposed to work. It was supposed to have futuristic technologies, public transit via the people mover system, lots of shared green spaces, etc.
A lot of it also just screams “company town” to me, and knowing Walt Disney, I have a feeling he’d be pretty proud of that.
Minus no one who works for the company can afford to live there..
Pledge fealty to the Mouse, or else
@@warlordofbritannia You may not have sex with your spouse unless you play “Can You Feel The Love Tonight” during coitus. If you fail to finish by the time the song ends, you are executed on the spot.
Mickey has snipers trained on everyone at any given moment.
Smile. You’re on camera. *You’re always on camera.*
I live in the Coachella Valley which is where these homes are being built and it’s insane the amount of money the city gave to this project. They made us cut back on our water and also raised the price of water use to conserve as a back up for this community.
I'm very much reminded of the old towns where the factory owns the whole town. They own all the other businesses and rent out the houses so the money never leaves their pockets.
As a former Disney employee this is absolutely fucking terrifying
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as a neurodivergent person who gets hyperfixations, i understand where disney adults are coming from. but this? this is scary…
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I could totally see it being cool with certain themed neighborhoods. Like a neighborhood themed over a rainforest or aggressively nature oriented. Also super interested in space and sci fi, so I could see some neighborhood like that bringing my interest. But with Disney being a billion dollar company and how everything has panned out for them that is very dystopian and fucked. I’m also not sure I’d want to entire neighborhood to have that theme and just be super homogeneous
@@monhi64 i agree.. having a special theme for the houses, like a sort of cabin-forest thing would be cool, but it’s very different when houses are themed after a literal business…
Fr tho I'm autistic and I would never do this
The problem is I find them crazy but I would totally do this if it was Nintendo 😭
Imagine having a rough childhood for whatever reason and having one of the highlights being a trip to Disney. It could feel like a magical experience on that alone. An escape to a fantasy world. That's the sort of thing that could get lodged in your psyche, and get taken advantage of by people out to sell you stuff you don't need. A Disney neighborhood assures that a willing customer is constantly surrounded by their brand and merchandise, and that leads to a very alarming precedent.
Now a resort space that's made up like a 'Disney neighborhood' that you rent for like a week, that doesn't seem quite as unsettling. Still an unnecessary use of money, but I could see people going for that. I'm surrounded by Airbnb, people love overpriced houses to crash in for a few days.
I love listening to Disney musicals 24/7 being blasted through the speakers of my neighborhood
Fun fact: Disney did have a club called club 33. It was so shady and secretive and of course for adults only. Club 33 is now open to the public today but it is a bar, apparently club 33 before it opened to the public was rumored to have been super shady and it did have a color that Disney used to let people know that an area is off limits.
Note: I only say this as a fun fact, and I thought I could mention this because I’m bored and I don’t think this has anything to do with the the subject of this video.
I went there as a kid it was pretty much just a fancy restaurant where you get reservations at
I can only imagine how cult like this "community" is going to get in isolation
Im scared for this kids that will be raised. Just imagine the creepy dystopian environment that will be to grow up in
I can't wait for the infighting when people have differing opinions on a movie
I can only imagine how "people" like you get through your day. Must be tough when your thinking about what other people are doing all the time. Still under that gen jutsu though I see. It's time to wake up.
This place gonna be like North Korea 😭💀
people choosing where to live versus people living there without a choice? Good try bud@@Henry_Jovanavić
The way people treat the cast members is scary I pray for them I hope they can carry because next thing you know a imaginar comes up and tries to come at snow white,they worst than the kids thinking these people are actually the fictional characters