15:00 when the EA drops from full speed to 35 kw it is a cable cooling issue. The temperature sensor in the cable is not picking up a reading or the liquid cooling is broken and the station defaults to 35 kw for safety since it doesnt know what the cable temperature is. EA stations have 2 cables so sometimes they is solved by changing the cable if it is a temperature sensor problem in the cable and not a problem with the liquid cooling of the whole dispenser.
I appreciate you addressing range/charging anxiety issues that can impact traveling partners more than the planner of the trip. No one needs to feel uncomfortable while on the road, so the occasional high SOC charge session will occur. Your documented experiences are fairly normal but it’s nice to see how others cope. Thanks!
There's no anxiety when you have access to the massive Supercharger network. They're everywhere you're going and they're 99.96% reliable. They simply work.
Yep, I could take my BEV on a long road trip but could not take family with me because of their range anxiety … having to think and plan constantly about your next charging stop is not for most people …
@@panameradan6860 I'm not sure if "most people" is accurate or not. Maybe. But I will say, my wife does fall into that category. She's still intimidated by the whole DCFC thing. I think mostly because I've always just taken care of that aspect and she hasn't had to deal with it on her own yet.
@@junehanzawa5165 I will say that I do have access to the Supercharger network, and generally, you're right. But on this particular trip, I was in some pretty remote mountain areas with no convenient Superchargers for large stretches of road. It all worked out just fine, but I'm just saying that - as good as the Supercharger network is - there are still 'charging deserts' out there that you may need to plan for.
Just in the past 2 years we have had our Ioniq 5 charging has greatly improved. 2 years ago having one more broken chargers at a site was common or even to be expected while now it's less uncommon. The quality and quantity of fast chargers has been improving pretty quickly.
Have a slow charging Bolt Euv and have done 2 road trips from Atlanta metro. The first to Orlando and back - no problems, multiple FSC charger types pre-Tesla adaption by GM. This included a Flying J charger - no issues. The Second to central Texas (in 1 day). Had access to Tesla Supercharger, helped alot. But there is still a FSC charger desert in the Alabama/Mississippi border area but there are some. Tesla Charger in Meridan Mississippi is level 2 - so can't use. Still, no real issues with planning.
My friend. That is how it started for me. My wife parked an EV in the garage and then quietly walked away. My curiosity was peaked and b4 i knew it my EV nerdary elevated to eleven. Be safe out there. Those EV things are wickely fun to drive. Thx for the video. I enjoyed watching.
Thank you for taking us along on your EV Road Trip and sharing your experience. It was neat to see the state of various USA Charger options. Starting our EV experience in 2018 with Canada's rocky charge availability; plus the driving distances for road tripping; we chose a PHEV to eliminate range worries. Inconsiderate ICE spot blockers; faulty chargers; and a wide range of then flaky Charge Apps provided some frustration. Thank goodness there will be plenty of gas stations for sometime into the future, to address any access to Charger hiccups. Our EV use is over 80% Urban; servicing short days trips; so visits to gas stations is seldom; with at home charging covering most of our driving needs. In Ontario we have an Ultra LOW Hydro rate after 11pm of 8.2cents/kwh..... So my 20kwh PHEV is cheaply charged every morning with 80+ km of range in my 2024 Outlander, ie: plenty for a few round town runs.
I’ve been using Tesla superchargers since July ‘23 when I got my car, put on over 40K miles, and I’ve almost never had an issue charging. If I have had a problem, I’ve moved over to the next stall and it worked fine. Also, I call Tesla Customer Service and report the defective stall, and they’ve fixed issues within a couple days, upon my return and trying again. My biggest issue at Tesla Superchargers are other users leaving trash in the parking spaces. If only every Tesla Supercharging station had a trash can, this would not be a problem.
Hey there. Thanks for the video. It’s great to see other people’s experiences and lessons learned. I’m currently in the middle of a road trip with my elderly parents to Hilton Head Island. I have a BMW iX and my mom has a Chevrolet Blazer EV. We took their car because there few CCS chargers here (virtually no EVgo’s) and she has access to Tesla Superchargers. The entire experience so far has been great. Tesla Superchargers worked flawlessly. By the way, in my BMW I have usually used PilotFlyingJ (EVgo), CircleK, and Electrify America. My experience is different than yours: PFJ works great and EA is dismal. After this trip with Tesla Supercharger access, I’m looking forward to my BMW’s access as well. We have had zero range anxiety and I would have in my BMW since I’m in a CCS wasteland on this trip. Add the the mix, iONNA buildout, and this time next year, this should all be a non-issue. Thanks for the video. Great insight.
2-1/2 months old and 4,100 miles on it. It’s nice to see I’m not the only one that pus so many miles on it. I will have had mine three months in 5 days and have 4,157 miles.
Good to know! I think I underestimated the interested in the side trip clips. :P Doing more travel videos in the future though, now that I'm semi-retired. Planning a trip to the Southwest (Four Corners region) in March. Should be fun! :)
20:45 disrespectful for sure! 😮 My family runs into this same thing when people park in handicap. I have 3 people in my household that we need the handicap space to park. Thank you for this road trip and recharge video.
Even with the “sad inadequate state” of our charging infrastructure, you were still able to find free charging. I’ve never in my life taken a road trip and found free gas. Great video, subscribed.
ReeWray Everyday...good luck with the new channel! I enjoyed this video a lot ...found it very informative. I often wonder how a long range trip works with an EV and this has answered many of my questions!
I really like videos like this. I am considering electric for my next vehicle and the range anxiety and charger blues is always on my mind. The improvements in charging infrastructure is giving me hope for a good road trip experience. 95% of my driving however will never involve charging away from home but I don't want a horrible experience for those few road trips we have to make
Just keepin' it real. :) My 2 EV's have very different ranges. The Mach-E RWD Ext Range will get me a solid 300 highway miles. The Volvo C40 Twin is actually much sportier performance, but as a result, only has about 200 miles of highway range, realistically. I think if you got anything with at least 300 miles of highway range, you'd not have a horrible road trip experience....especially if what you get has access to both the CCS1 and Tesla charging networks. You'll always have options and you won't feel like you're having to stop excessively.
The wall in front of your car while changing in Bryson City, it the back side of what was Meyers Court. A motel owned by my parents in the early 70s. I was there about 4 months ago and noticed they were tearing it down. There are Tesla chargers in Franklin and Sylva that work with Ford. You can also find a Shell Recharge in Franklin along with a few chargers in Cherokee.
Looks like an enjoyable trip. I've had pretty good luck lately with Pilot Flying J EVGo network - maybe they got the kinks worked out now. I was hoping to see a little footage of your cavern tour at what I assumed was the Lost Sea near Sweetwater TN - we were there earlier this year.
Yeah, I did actually have some clips from the cavern tour. It was actually Ruby Falls. Very commercialized...but still pretty cool. I opted not to include those clips because I thought the video was getting too long and I assumed people would be more interested in the EV charging experience than my side trips. :P Oh well...I've got plans to add more travel content going forward, now that I'm 'semi-retired'.
Weird that the one Pilot-Flying J station gave you problems! I've used one PFJ station a few times and it's always been flawless. It's my preferred station along that route because the bathrooms are spacious, clean, and there's a couple of food options inside the travel center. I'd recommend setting up your car with EVgo's Autocharge so that you get the same plug & charge experience as you already get with EA and Tesla.
I own a 21 Mach E GT and done an almost flawless 2000mi round trip from Nebraska to Louisiana/Mississippi. The only flaw was trusting the EA in KC, MO. Two chargers down out of four chargers and people charging to 100% with their free charging. After that, I had no issues with any other EA, Francis, EVgo and Tesla charger. I personally love taking mine on road trips and looking forward to the next road trip with it.
We made two Mach e long fall trips. No problems and found charging very good. Glad to have access to Tesla in my province other wise it would have been different.
I was very interested to see your experience with CCS1. Looks like it has improved somewhat. Long distance travel is no problem at all if you have reliable charging infrastructure. I do not think twice about long distance trips because I use the Tesla network. I just put in my destination and the trip is laid out with the Chargers that are needed, and they always work. Only one time that I have an issue and it was with the transformer which required me to move to a different set of chargers. Cost me about 15 minutes. In Europe, CCS two chargers are everywhere and as reliable as Tesla network. In fact, one time on a family trip, we missed the auto train in Florida instead of waiting the next day, my wife just wanted to head home so I swiped right to our home address and took off no planning at all no problems at all. Only difference is I charged at the motel we stayed at. Have my Tesla for six years took trips up to Maine down to Florida up and down East Coast dozens of times no problems and really no waiting because we always stop at meals.
I think your first time EV road trip experience is pretty representative of most rookie EV families. Our first EV road trip was in summer 2022 in the Mach-E and we did the exact same thing of stressing about charging and making sure we had more than enough range "just in case". As we got more comfortable with the car and as more EV charging networks have come online, it's really become a non-issue now.
There is a company (name escapes me now) that makes extensions for charging from 12 ft up to 40 feet I think . They are CCS to CCS , CCS to NACS, and maybe even NACS to NACS. As I recall they aren't too pricey and would certainly solve the cable issue for non Tesla charging at their chargers. Just remembered the company is EVDANCE , and apparently there are some others as well on Amazon.
Glad you mentioned the Plugshare app. I thought you were relying solely on the Ford navigation system. I horrendous compared to the Google Automotive system as part of our Polestar 2. It was also a relief that you had Ford credits when I saw you using the GM flying J chargers as well as the Tesla network via Plug and Charge. Both of those are expensive options. Tesla charging is cheaper through the Tesla app and cheaper yet if you get the subscription. Can be cancelled at any time. The Mercedes charger was a ChargePoint charger. Plug and Charge is convenient but not financially economical. You're better off getting the individual apps to save money. Our first long distance trip in the Mach E was just last weekend. We used the Lectron adapter for the first time without issue. But the Ford navigation is terrible, with no trip details for the roads being used and one can't add chargers because it's subscription based. We had better information and trip details using Apple maps. We have another trip this weekend and I'll be trying google maps and A Better Route Planner with the OBDII adapter. Hopefully I don't regret not taking the Polestar. Nice video production by the way!
Good start! We are in CA and sold our Mach-e after 29,000 miles (mostly 200-400 mile day trups) due to Ford's insanely bad software. We reported about 15 problems to Ford; after years none solved and the car stopped accepting OTA updates. Dealers were no help. We had owned 8 Fords pteviously; the Mach,-e was our 7th BEV. The car would mistake distance to nearest charger for remaining range and lose it's mind, saying in red that you couldn't drive anywhere!
We leased an ID.4 this summer. We don't use it as a road trip vehicle and have only charged at a fast charger twice, since we get free 500kWh. Both times I had to rush out so I didn't hog the charger (only 4, but they are 350). They need to solve these problems with charging.
Haha, yeah well...I think it was a bit sensory overload for me. :P Fun stop, for sure, but I probably wouldn't want to stay inside more than about 15-20 mins tops...which is more than enough time to add enough charge to get to the next bathroom break!
Hello, I appreciate your video it was very knowledgeable my wife and I are planning on purchasing a Ford Mach E this week.🎉 I believe we’re looking at the premium 2024 Mach E standard range.
Did you get it?! I'd definitely recommend the extended range, if you still have the option. But your circumstances may align with the standard range...so I'm sure you've already considered that. :P I OOVE my Volvo C40 from a driving/performance standpoint. But the 215 miles of highway range IS a bit limiting...and in that respect, the 320 mile range on the Mach-E Ext Range is much better for road trips.
I use PlugShare a lot, just to find where my options are. Also, I have the individual charge network apps installed as well, just for convenience (EVgo, ElectrifyAmerica, ChargePoint and Tesla).
Thanks for the video. Several months ago I went to look and test drive a Mach E, but the dealership experience was horrible. I ended up buying a used Model Y. Last week I drove 1600 miles to CA and back and the Tesla supercharging network and the in car route planner made is super easy. I still like the Mach E, but glad to have the Tesla.
Nice vid. 20% of chargers with canopies???? More like 1%. That is the most annoying part of road tripping an EV. I have 35,000 miles of road trips of over 1,000 miles in length. You are correct that the reliability is a pain in the a**. However, I've noticed a HUGE improvement over the last three years in charger availability and reliability (except EVgo).
In 3+ years with my Mach E I've had plenty of failed attempts on EA, including one stall that literally rebooted in mid stream. Based on your sample size with EVgo I should relegate EA to the trash heap? I'll be working on a derogatory nickname for EA as well, but not until I use up all the Ford promotional credits. Pro tip: when using an adapter with Tesla stalls, conventional wisdom suggests to 1. Press the release button on the vehicle, 2. Disconnect adapter from vehicle, 3. Disconnect adapter from station cable.
I enjoyed your video and the travel charging anxiety, I suppose years down the road it will be all electric. But for me in northern Canada it will not work other than a short trip to the market, but it is not in my ev car buying future.
At the buc-eeys did it really cost you $.55 kwh? I couldnt see the screen very well and you didnt mention the cost pkwh which is how we all talk about cost/value ratios. I think the tesla charger was $.34 kwh? Also can you monitor your charging via your phone? I havent had an issue with tesla cars supercharging but I always monitor it while im eating or something and to avoid the idle charge I just change the limit number to something higher via the app then I dont get hit with idle charges.
yeah, it did. :P But the cost seems to vary pretty widely from location to location and also time/day. And yeah, thankfully the FordPass app does allow me to monitor charging speed and status. My Volvo app does not show me the charging speed...just the current status, which is...less helpful.
Yes, but you'd need to add a neutral ground bond adapter like this amzn.to/414I0L3 or the charger will likely show a fault, since portable power stations typically have a floating ground (ie not connected directly to earth ground)
Just drove past Nashville a couple of weeks ago. Wish I had known about the falls. What navigation app do you use? Is that what informed you about the falls?
I actually used All Trails app and did a little recon on the areas I knew we'd be driving through. I actually had a whole multi-waterfall loop planned out but the weather was coming in hard so I decided to just do the one. We also did a really cool cave waterfall tour outside of Chattanooga the next morning that I didn't show in the video.
Home charging is significantly cheaper than gas. DC fast charging is a different story. It can be on-par with gas, or even a bit more expensive than gas.
Hmmm. Too bad some of those DCFC shut down prematurely, but… it happens. I used to experience such hiccups at Superchargers, which are not as reliable as some people think. My last long distance roadtrip (1,689 miles) was better than I anticipated, thanks to my EV's impressive charging curve. At 350kW chargers, with 26% in the battery, the rate would quickly crank up to ~228kW, but would still maintain a 159kW rate when hitting 80% after only 13 minutes. I'll take it!
I suspect in many cases, it's people who made the purchase without really considering their circumstances....and maybe they just found that for them, the added complication of managing charging/range was not something they were willing to accept. In other cases, they're off-lease cars...a lot of those out there...and people generally are careful with mileage on leased cars because they dont' want the excessive mileage up-charge when the lease is up.
By the end of the trip what was the average miles/$? I'd like to compare that to a hybrid that gets, say, 45 miles/gallon (using an assumed $3.25/gallon).
Hmmmm a little tricky to calculate, given that it's been 3 months...but, factoring out the 'free' charging I had access to, using 3.5 miles/kWh as an approximation, and $0.50/kWh as an average DCFC price....that'd come out to 7 miles per $1. So definitely not as economical as a hybrid on long trips. But when home charging, I'm paying an average of only $0.11/kWh, so the economics are quite a bit better at about 31.8 miles per $1 (if I did the math correctly)
@@ReeWrayEVerydayI think it's fair to include the "free" charging. I was thinking you could just calculate (total miles)/(total charge station payments)
Reewray Everday, interesting video. I don’t think I would enjoy long range EV travel, seems like the charge network needs a lot of improvements to be more reliable.
I think electric vehicles are great, for local trips and utility purposes, but I can't get behind the long range aspect. Back in the early days of "automobiling," one could strap on extra cans of gasoline and not worry too much about finding a service station. You can't "strap on" extra electricity for when you're stuck in the middle of nowhere! LOL Great video, though - thank you!!
@@ReeWrayEVeryday And if you find yourself *really* bored someday, you could check out my tour and flight in the World's Largest manned, powered Soccer Ball!
They initially were using Tesla built adapters, but they couldn't meet demand and then recently had a recall on some of them. So they made an agreement with Lectron to co-design an alternative to the Tesla adapter that is Ford branded. Coming soon.
Yeah we still haven't either. BUT...Ford has recently enlisted Lectron to help load balance their backlog (since Telsa failed them miserably on that) so HOPEFULLY we'll get those adapters here in the next month or 2.
31:06 I couldn't disagree with you more. HI5 gets 1/3 max speed at tesla. PFJ is chef's kiss. Please use your $200 adapter and leave more CCS chargers for the rest of us.
@emrimbiemri3211 you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But I do stand by my comments regarding MY experience on that particular road trip route. I actually do prefer to avoid Tesla SCs whenever possible (which is most of the time), but I still think having more options is better than fewer options. That's said, if I had a HI5 (and I nearly bought one recently), I'd also no doubt be looking to capitalize on the fastest charging speeds whenever possible so I certainly understand where you're coming from.
The mistake a lot makes is they aren't patient enough to charge to 100%. When you do find a charge station that works at a good charge rate best to make the most of it! EVs aren't going to work in Australia! We're just too big! I went for a little drive down the road the other month from the state I live in to the neighbouring state took 16 hours in a turbo diesel. Imagine if I did it in a electric car! 😂
ReeWray Everyday. It's reviews like this that still keeps me from buying/leasing EV vehicles. Especially when the dealership can't fix them under warranty. No way.
After 6+ months and 1 long road trip under the belt, I'm finding that it's really not something I worry about all that much. If I were doing road trips every couple of months, I might find it a BIT more of a hassle...but probably still willing to take the trade-off of having a more enjoying driving experience that the EV gives me.
@@ReeWrayEVeryday My wife and I are looking into possible rivian for towing our camper. We might wait a little longer till we find the right vehicle for what we want. Its still a new industry, and i cant wait to see what comes next.
Yeah, it's definitely not for everyone. But this was pretty much a 'worst case' road trip with many miles off the "beaten path" in what amounted to a charging desert. Routes that stayed along major thoroughfares would have required less time spent charging since I'd have easily been able to stay in the faster zone of the charging curve, instead of charging well-above 80% to maintain a safety range due to the lack of options in remote areas.
@ReeWrayEveryday still too much range anxiety for me... And I refuse to change how I do things for something that should make my life easier... That being said, the new RAM 1500 with the onboard generator seems like the best of both worlds
@@marcjampolsky5280 Here's how I look at it: Given that I only really take 1-4 road trips a year, where I have to rely on DC fast charging, I'm willing to accept a little less convenience during those 10% or so of total miles driven each year. For the other 90%, I'm getting a MUCH more enjoyable driving experience, much less maintenance, and significantly lower energy costs. So it's a trade-off I'm willing to make. But I realize that not everyone would be happy with that trade-off (so I'm not trying to convince you! haha). I just want to try and represent my experience as realistically as I can. :)
I completely understand... That's why the new RAM is so interesting to me. When I'm just driving around town or doing short commutes etc, full electric... Charging at home etc.. When towing you have full EV torque When towing or driving long distances, you have an on-board generator running at PEAK efficiency and then you get ICE range. You can also charge at fast charging stations. BUT zero range anxiety. The generator doesn't connect to the drive train at all, it only charges the batteries kinda like how a train works (or Edison motors for semi trucks)
Well, now that we have access to the Tesla Supercharger network too, the difference is really not that great. Plus, (and I realize this is a personal preference) I prefer to have physical buttons for the things I use most, rather than the minimalistic interior design that Tesla uses where the vast majority of functions have to be accessed from the touch-screen display. I also like having my speed and other information in the center of the drivers space and not to the side. But, I've driven a Model 3 for a few days and it was definitely a solid car.
You’re assuming that the Mach-E charging curve is the norm. It is not. It’s pretty bad for the price of the car. If my EV charged at 120 or less at any point under 80% SoC I’d sell it. (It doesn’t)
I was really assessing the charging performance I was getting vs what the car should be capable of. I agree that the charging curve on the Mach-E is not great. But we decided on that particular car mostly because it was my wife's preference and I knew that long road trips would constitute a small minority of the miles that car will get. That said, I find its charging performance acceptable for how we use it and a reasonable trade-off for the driving experience. I'm curious though John, what are you driving?
@@ReeWrayEVeryday Your car was charging normally for the Mach-E. Just note that the car doesn't really charge faster at low states of charge like a Tesla or other EVs. Ford designed the Mach-E to have a consistent charge experience regardless of the state of charge (below 80%) when you first plug in. That's why you were getting such high power when you first plugged in at 62% and 71%.
I believe it slows down the rate as the SOC gets higher to protect the battery. I’d rather have my batteries last years longer than to save minutes at the charging station. It’s a complex system that monitors the battery, temperature, and SOC that regulates the rate to maximize battery life.
My biggest issue with my work EV car is the charging infrastructure. It is mostly garbage, and really makes using an EV a big challenge, probably the biggest reason why I won't own one yet.
Yeah, I wouldn't advise anyone who would have to rely on DC Fast Charging as their primary source of charging to make the switch at this point. But, if that's the exception for you and you'll mostly be able to charge at home, then I think having an EV is something that is not only viable, but will provide a superior, more enjoyable, driving experience vs ICE cars.
Yeah, I'd agree that in many cases, the pricing pretty excessive. I hope that as more options come on-line, they'll be forces to be more competitive and prices will come down.
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Listening to your narrative of road-trip charging woe in a Mach E I'm angry all over again that the CCS charging network is such a mish-mash of different suppliers, different capabilities, varying poor reliability, etc. Trying to road-trip on the CCS network sounds just appallingly frustrating. And then there's Tesla, which for a native Tesla vehicle just plain works. period. EX: when my Tesla was less than 2 months old under my directorship, I took a 5K mile road-trip across the vast wilderness of eastern and central Canada simply because my Tesla mapped out the route and said I'd now find superchargers there. The trip was predictable, comfortable, and flawless. It makes sense that North America is transitioning to the NACS standard, and it's about time.
Not true, actually. Since the charge port is in the front quarter panel, if we back in to the space, the cables on the Tesla Superchargers are too short to reach.
Yeah, I'd have to say that's true...at least for now. :P But...they also tend to be a lot busier than CCS charging stations, and now that more brands have access to them, it's only going to get even more busy, I suspect.
I would agree for long-distance driving, but for the day to day less than 300 miles EVs are great. Charging from home is the best so convenient to never have to fill up with gas.
No problem at all if you have reliable charging infrastructure. I do not think twice about long distance trips because I use the Tesla network. I just put in my destination and the trip is laid out with the Chargers that are needed, and they always work. Only one time that I have an issue and it was with the transformer which required me to move to a different set of chargers. Cost me about 15 minutes. In Europe, CCS two chargers are everywhere and as reliable as Tesla network. In fact, one time on a family trip, we missed the auto train in Florida instead of waiting the next day, my wife just wanted to head home so I swiped right to our home address and took off no planning at all no problems at all. Only difference is I charged at the motel we stayed at. Have my Tesla for six years took trips up to Maine down to Florida up and down East Coast dozens of times no problems and really no waiting because we always stop at meals.
Anything new takes a lot of brain power to quickly understand and get used to the new normal. It took you awhile to get used to using your cellphone and now you feel weird leaving the house without it. High mpg car doesn't have the power or performance of EVs.
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I really respect you back up battery reviews. Looking forward to this new channel!
15:00 when the EA drops from full speed to 35 kw it is a cable cooling issue. The temperature sensor in the cable is not picking up a reading or the liquid cooling is broken and the station defaults to 35 kw for safety since it doesnt know what the cable temperature is. EA stations have 2 cables so sometimes they is solved by changing the cable if it is a temperature sensor problem in the cable and not a problem with the liquid cooling of the whole dispenser.
Ah...that makes sense.
I appreciate you addressing range/charging anxiety issues that can impact traveling partners more than the planner of the trip. No one needs to feel uncomfortable while on the road, so the occasional high SOC charge session will occur. Your documented experiences are fairly normal but it’s nice to see how others cope.
Thanks!
There's no anxiety when you have access to the massive Supercharger network. They're everywhere you're going and they're 99.96% reliable. They simply work.
Yep, I could take my BEV on a long road trip but could not take family with me because of their range anxiety … having to think and plan constantly about your next charging stop is not for most people …
@@panameradan6860 I'm not sure if "most people" is accurate or not. Maybe. But I will say, my wife does fall into that category. She's still intimidated by the whole DCFC thing. I think mostly because I've always just taken care of that aspect and she hasn't had to deal with it on her own yet.
@@junehanzawa5165 I will say that I do have access to the Supercharger network, and generally, you're right. But on this particular trip, I was in some pretty remote mountain areas with no convenient Superchargers for large stretches of road. It all worked out just fine, but I'm just saying that - as good as the Supercharger network is - there are still 'charging deserts' out there that you may need to plan for.
Just in the past 2 years we have had our Ioniq 5 charging has greatly improved. 2 years ago having one more broken chargers at a site was common or even to be expected while now it's less uncommon. The quality and quantity of fast chargers has been improving pretty quickly.
Have a slow charging Bolt Euv and have done 2 road trips from Atlanta metro. The first to Orlando and back - no problems, multiple FSC charger types pre-Tesla adaption by GM. This included a Flying J charger - no issues. The Second to central Texas (in 1 day). Had access to Tesla Supercharger, helped alot. But there is still a FSC charger desert in the Alabama/Mississippi border area but there are some. Tesla Charger in Meridan Mississippi is level 2 - so can't use. Still, no real issues with planning.
My friend. That is how it started for me. My wife parked an EV in the garage and then quietly walked away. My curiosity was peaked and b4 i knew it my EV nerdary elevated to eleven. Be safe out there. Those EV things are wickely fun to drive. Thx for the video. I enjoyed watching.
Thank you for taking us along on your EV Road Trip and sharing your experience. It was neat to see the state of various USA Charger options.
Starting our EV experience in 2018 with Canada's rocky charge availability; plus the driving distances for road tripping; we chose a PHEV to eliminate range worries. Inconsiderate ICE spot blockers; faulty chargers; and a wide range of then flaky Charge Apps provided some frustration. Thank goodness there will be plenty of gas stations for sometime into the future, to address any access to Charger hiccups. Our EV use is over 80% Urban; servicing short days trips; so visits to gas stations is seldom; with at home charging covering most of our driving needs. In Ontario we have an Ultra LOW Hydro rate after 11pm of 8.2cents/kwh..... So my 20kwh PHEV is cheaply charged every morning with 80+ km of range in my 2024 Outlander, ie: plenty for a few round town runs.
Love your results on your new channel! Keep up the good work. I enjoy your commentary.
ReeWrayEVeryday! Let's goo! Love both ur channels. Give good info on all the things I wonder about.
A great first video for the new channel! Notification are on I will be watching!
I’ve been using Tesla superchargers since July ‘23 when I got my car, put on over 40K miles, and I’ve almost never had an issue charging. If I have had a problem, I’ve moved over to the next stall and it worked fine. Also, I call Tesla Customer Service and report the defective stall, and they’ve fixed issues within a couple days, upon my return and trying again. My biggest issue at Tesla Superchargers are other users leaving trash in the parking spaces. If only every Tesla Supercharging station had a trash can, this would not be a problem.
Hey there. Thanks for the video. It’s great to see other people’s experiences and lessons learned. I’m currently in the middle of a road trip with my elderly parents to Hilton Head Island. I have a BMW iX and my mom has a Chevrolet Blazer EV. We took their car because there few CCS chargers here (virtually no EVgo’s) and she has access to Tesla Superchargers. The entire experience so far has been great. Tesla Superchargers worked flawlessly.
By the way, in my BMW I have usually used PilotFlyingJ (EVgo), CircleK, and Electrify America. My experience is different than yours: PFJ works great and EA is dismal.
After this trip with Tesla Supercharger access, I’m looking forward to my BMW’s access as well. We have had zero range anxiety and I would have in my BMW since I’m in a CCS wasteland on this trip.
Add the the mix, iONNA buildout, and this time next year, this should all be a non-issue.
Thanks for the video. Great insight.
Subscribed👍. Looking forward to more of your EV experiences, as the infrastructure is vastly improving.
2-1/2 months old and 4,100 miles on it. It’s nice to see I’m not the only one that pus so many miles on it. I will have had mine three months in 5 days and have 4,157 miles.
BEST of luck with the new channel!! 👍
Enjoyed the scenic side trips
Good to know! I think I underestimated the interested in the side trip clips. :P Doing more travel videos in the future though, now that I'm semi-retired. Planning a trip to the Southwest (Four Corners region) in March. Should be fun! :)
20:45 disrespectful for sure! 😮
My family runs into this same thing when people park in handicap. I have 3 people in my household that we need the handicap space to park.
Thank you for this road trip and recharge video.
No it's not, if there is no wait.
Even with the “sad inadequate state” of our charging infrastructure, you were still able to find free charging. I’ve never in my life taken a road trip and found free gas. Great video, subscribed.
Me either! I'll take the 'W'. :)
Wow great video thanks for sharing!!!! thanks for sharing!!
Great vlog again 👏👏👏... Let me know when you're wife gets fed up with the car, and I'll swap my Skoda Superb 2013 diesel for no cost 🤭
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Interesting trip with the e-car. The side trips and b-roll also cool. And ... a couple good laughs!
Thanks! 😃
ReeWray Everyday...good luck with the new channel!
I enjoyed this video a lot ...found it very informative. I often wonder how a long range trip works with an EV and this has answered many of my questions!
Thank you! I'm glad it helped. :)
ReeWray Everyday. Excited about new channel!
I really like videos like this. I am considering electric for my next vehicle and the range anxiety and charger blues is always on my mind. The improvements in charging infrastructure is giving me hope for a good road trip experience. 95% of my driving however will never involve charging away from home but I don't want a horrible experience for those few road trips we have to make
Just keepin' it real. :) My 2 EV's have very different ranges. The Mach-E RWD Ext Range will get me a solid 300 highway miles. The Volvo C40 Twin is actually much sportier performance, but as a result, only has about 200 miles of highway range, realistically. I think if you got anything with at least 300 miles of highway range, you'd not have a horrible road trip experience....especially if what you get has access to both the CCS1 and Tesla charging networks. You'll always have options and you won't feel like you're having to stop excessively.
I live in NC and have to check out that rail trip! Looks like you had beautiful weather.
The wall in front of your car while changing in Bryson City, it the back side of what was Meyers Court. A motel owned by my parents in the early 70s. I was there about 4 months ago and noticed they were tearing it down. There are Tesla chargers in Franklin and Sylva that work with Ford. You can also find a Shell Recharge in Franklin along with a few chargers in Cherokee.
Woodstock, GA here. Just south of Ball Ground. We just bought a 2024 grabber blue like your 2023.
I just bought the same charger, hope Tesla open it up to Hyundai soon. You have a lovely property. Nice looking Mach-E too. Great car.
So your new channel will be about EV ? 👍🥳🦊 LOVE IT ! 😺
Great video!
Looks like an enjoyable trip. I've had pretty good luck lately with Pilot Flying J EVGo network - maybe they got the kinks worked out now. I was hoping to see a little footage of your cavern tour at what I assumed was the Lost Sea near Sweetwater TN - we were there earlier this year.
Yeah, I did actually have some clips from the cavern tour. It was actually Ruby Falls. Very commercialized...but still pretty cool. I opted not to include those clips because I thought the video was getting too long and I assumed people would be more interested in the EV charging experience than my side trips. :P Oh well...I've got plans to add more travel content going forward, now that I'm 'semi-retired'.
Weird that the one Pilot-Flying J station gave you problems! I've used one PFJ station a few times and it's always been flawless. It's my preferred station along that route because the bathrooms are spacious, clean, and there's a couple of food options inside the travel center. I'd recommend setting up your car with EVgo's Autocharge so that you get the same plug & charge experience as you already get with EA and Tesla.
Just subscribed, looking forward to hearing what you have to say in this channel
I own a 21 Mach E GT and done an almost flawless 2000mi round trip from Nebraska to Louisiana/Mississippi.
The only flaw was trusting the EA in KC, MO. Two chargers down out of four chargers and people charging to 100% with their free charging.
After that, I had no issues with any other EA, Francis, EVgo and Tesla charger.
I personally love taking mine on road trips and looking forward to the next road trip with it.
We made two Mach e long fall trips. No problems and found charging very good. Glad to have access to Tesla in my province other wise it would have been different.
Another way to "ReeWray Everyday" keeping it interesting.
I was very interested to see your experience with CCS1. Looks like it has improved somewhat. Long distance travel is no problem at all if you have reliable charging infrastructure. I do not think twice about long distance trips because I use the Tesla network. I just put in my destination and the trip is laid out with the Chargers that are needed, and they always work. Only one time that I have an issue and it was with the transformer which required me to move to a different set of chargers. Cost me about 15 minutes. In Europe, CCS two chargers are everywhere and as reliable as Tesla network. In fact, one time on a family trip, we missed the auto train in Florida instead of waiting the next day, my wife just wanted to head home so I swiped right to our home address and took off no planning at all no problems at all. Only difference is I charged at the motel we stayed at. Have my Tesla for six years took trips up to Maine down to Florida up and down East Coast dozens of times no problems and really no waiting because we always stop at meals.
I think your first time EV road trip experience is pretty representative of most rookie EV families. Our first EV road trip was in summer 2022 in the Mach-E and we did the exact same thing of stressing about charging and making sure we had more than enough range "just in case". As we got more comfortable with the car and as more EV charging networks have come online, it's really become a non-issue now.
There is a company (name escapes me now) that makes extensions for charging from 12 ft up to 40 feet I think . They are CCS to CCS , CCS to NACS, and maybe even NACS to NACS. As I recall they aren't too pricey and would certainly solve the cable issue for non Tesla charging at their chargers. Just remembered the company is EVDANCE , and apparently there are some others as well on Amazon.
Oh! I'll have to check them out. I think they've even tried to contact me before and I've (so far) ignored their advances. LOL
Glad you mentioned the Plugshare app. I thought you were relying solely on the Ford navigation system. I horrendous compared to the Google Automotive system as part of our Polestar 2. It was also a relief that you had Ford credits when I saw you using the GM flying J chargers as well as the Tesla network via Plug and Charge. Both of those are expensive options. Tesla charging is cheaper through the Tesla app and cheaper yet if you get the subscription. Can be cancelled at any time. The Mercedes charger was a ChargePoint charger.
Plug and Charge is convenient but not financially economical. You're better off getting the individual apps to save money.
Our first long distance trip in the Mach E was just last weekend. We used the Lectron adapter for the first time without issue. But the Ford navigation is terrible, with no trip details for the roads being used and one can't add chargers because it's subscription based. We had better information and trip details using Apple maps. We have another trip this weekend and I'll be trying google maps and A Better Route Planner with the OBDII adapter. Hopefully I don't regret not taking the Polestar.
Nice video production by the way!
Excellent insights! Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Wondering how charging worked on trips. Thank you Reewray Everyday
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Good start! We are in CA and sold our Mach-e after 29,000 miles (mostly 200-400 mile day trups) due to Ford's insanely bad software. We reported about 15 problems to Ford; after years none solved and the car stopped accepting OTA updates. Dealers were no help. We had owned 8 Fords pteviously; the Mach,-e was our 7th BEV. The car would mistake distance to nearest charger for remaining range and lose it's mind, saying in red that you couldn't drive anywhere!
Thankfully we've not experienced anything like that yet. 🤞🤞🤞
@ReeWrayEveryday-r8w You have different software. Including Blue Cruise? We had Select AWD.
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Watching this helped me make up my mind about buying an ev, I'm never going to buy one!
We leased an ID.4 this summer. We don't use it as a road trip vehicle and have only charged at a fast charger twice, since we get free 500kWh. Both times I had to rush out so I didn't hog the charger (only 4, but they are 350). They need to solve these problems with charging.
If your Buc-ee’s stops are anything like mine, you can easily fully charge your car while you’re shopping.
Haha, yeah well...I think it was a bit sensory overload for me. :P Fun stop, for sure, but I probably wouldn't want to stay inside more than about 15-20 mins tops...which is more than enough time to add enough charge to get to the next bathroom break!
Hello, I appreciate your video it was very knowledgeable my wife and I are planning on purchasing a Ford Mach E this week.🎉 I believe we’re looking at the premium 2024 Mach E standard range.
What apps do you recommend to download for Ev charging?
Did you get it?! I'd definitely recommend the extended range, if you still have the option. But your circumstances may align with the standard range...so I'm sure you've already considered that. :P I OOVE my Volvo C40 from a driving/performance standpoint. But the 215 miles of highway range IS a bit limiting...and in that respect, the 320 mile range on the Mach-E Ext Range is much better for road trips.
I use PlugShare a lot, just to find where my options are. Also, I have the individual charge network apps installed as well, just for convenience (EVgo, ElectrifyAmerica, ChargePoint and Tesla).
Thanks for the video. Several months ago I went to look and test drive a Mach E, but the dealership experience was horrible. I ended up buying a used Model Y. Last week I drove 1600 miles to CA and back and the Tesla supercharging network and the in car route planner made is super easy. I still like the Mach E, but glad to have the Tesla.
We have a 2022 Bolt, only charged 3 times at a DC fast charger its interesting to hear other people experiences.
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Nice vid. 20% of chargers with canopies???? More like 1%. That is the most annoying part of road tripping an EV. I have 35,000 miles of road trips of over 1,000 miles in length. You are correct that the reliability is a pain in the a**. However, I've noticed a HUGE improvement over the last three years in charger availability and reliability (except EVgo).
People would have a LOT less range anxiety if they knew they could charge successfully when they arrive at the DC fast chargers.
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I'd be interested to see what you'd experience in a trip to California!
Sometime next year, hopefully! 🤞
In 3+ years with my Mach E I've had plenty of failed attempts on EA, including one stall that literally rebooted in mid stream. Based on your sample size with EVgo I should relegate EA to the trash heap? I'll be working on a derogatory nickname for EA as well, but not until I use up all the Ford promotional credits.
Pro tip: when using an adapter with Tesla stalls, conventional wisdom suggests to 1. Press the release button on the vehicle, 2. Disconnect adapter from vehicle, 3. Disconnect adapter from station cable.
I enjoyed your video and the travel charging anxiety, I suppose years down the road it will be all electric. But for me in northern Canada it will not work other than a short trip to the market, but it is not in my ev car buying future.
At the buc-eeys did it really cost you $.55 kwh? I couldnt see the screen very well and you didnt mention the cost pkwh which is how we all talk about cost/value ratios. I think the tesla charger was $.34 kwh? Also can you monitor your charging via your phone? I havent had an issue with tesla cars supercharging but I always monitor it while im eating or something and to avoid the idle charge I just change the limit number to something higher via the app then I dont get hit with idle charges.
yeah, it did. :P But the cost seems to vary pretty widely from location to location and also time/day. And yeah, thankfully the FordPass app does allow me to monitor charging speed and status. My Volvo app does not show me the charging speed...just the current status, which is...less helpful.
Great video. Do any of the portable power stations have the ability to charge an EV? If even for just a few more miles?
Yes, but you'd need to add a neutral ground bond adapter like this amzn.to/414I0L3 or the charger will likely show a fault, since portable power stations typically have a floating ground (ie not connected directly to earth ground)
Aw.... FlyingJ is unreliable? That sucks. I like their setup so much!
Quite a few brands can use supercharger Network now
Yep - since I recorded this, they've added GM and, very recently Volvo/Polestar.
Just drove past Nashville a couple of weeks ago. Wish I had known about the falls. What navigation app do you use? Is that what informed you about the falls?
Ah, you mentioned PlugShare at the end of the video.
I actually used All Trails app and did a little recon on the areas I knew we'd be driving through. I actually had a whole multi-waterfall loop planned out but the weather was coming in hard so I decided to just do the one. We also did a really cool cave waterfall tour outside of Chattanooga the next morning that I didn't show in the video.
How does the charging cost compare to a comparable diesel or petrol vehicle?... 👏👏
Home charging is significantly cheaper than gas. DC fast charging is a different story. It can be on-par with gas, or even a bit more expensive than gas.
The new MACH-Es have HEAT PUMPS a crucial upgrade and the new entry has LFP batteries.
Yeah....worthy upgrades for sure.
Hmmm. Too bad some of those DCFC shut down prematurely, but… it happens. I used to experience such hiccups at Superchargers, which are not as reliable as some people think. My last long distance roadtrip (1,689 miles) was better than I anticipated, thanks to my EV's impressive charging curve. At 350kW chargers, with 26% in the battery, the rate would quickly crank up to ~228kW, but would still maintain a 159kW rate when hitting 80% after only 13 minutes. I'll take it!
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Thanks for letting me know. I've think I've got it fixed now. :P
I have noticed that many EVs have low miles when being resold. Why is that? Maybe it is location and climate reasons? Could you explain this?
I suspect in many cases, it's people who made the purchase without really considering their circumstances....and maybe they just found that for them, the added complication of managing charging/range was not something they were willing to accept. In other cases, they're off-lease cars...a lot of those out there...and people generally are careful with mileage on leased cars because they dont' want the excessive mileage up-charge when the lease is up.
Tacoma driver is what we call a “chargehole”
ReeWray Everyday NIce road trip but EV challenges need to be planned for. So many charging stations horror stories out there
Curious if I can charge a Tesla Model Y? I assume I'll need to use a NEMA 14-50 adapter? Thanks for the invaluable reviews! ReeWray Everyday 😊
What would you be charging with?
@@ReeWrayEVeryday My wife is still deciding between the wall connector and the mobile connector; they both appear to have a 14-50 connector.
Reewray Everyday nice extra channel
By the end of the trip what was the average miles/$? I'd like to compare that to a hybrid that gets, say, 45 miles/gallon (using an assumed $3.25/gallon).
Hmmmm a little tricky to calculate, given that it's been 3 months...but, factoring out the 'free' charging I had access to, using 3.5 miles/kWh as an approximation, and $0.50/kWh as an average DCFC price....that'd come out to 7 miles per $1. So definitely not as economical as a hybrid on long trips. But when home charging, I'm paying an average of only $0.11/kWh, so the economics are quite a bit better at about 31.8 miles per $1 (if I did the math correctly)
@@ReeWrayEVerydayI think it's fair to include the "free" charging. I was thinking you could just calculate (total miles)/(total charge station payments)
@@ReeWrayEVerydayI'm not trying to dissuade people from getting an EV - there might be environmental considerations that outweigh the inconvenience.
Reewray Everday, interesting video. I don’t think I would enjoy long range EV travel, seems like the charge network needs a lot of improvements to be more reliable.
I think electric vehicles are great, for local trips and utility purposes, but I can't get behind the long range aspect. Back in the early days of "automobiling," one could strap on extra cans of gasoline and not worry too much about finding a service station. You can't "strap on" extra electricity for when you're stuck in the middle of nowhere! LOL Great video, though - thank you!!
Yeah that's fair. For me though, my longer-range driving probably only accounts for
Lucy is adorable, btw!
@@ReeWrayEVeryday Don't think she doesn't *know* it, and uses it to her advantage! LOL Thank you!
@@ReeWrayEVeryday And if you find yourself *really* bored someday, you could check out my tour and flight in the World's Largest manned, powered Soccer Ball!
I read the Lectron is what Ford uses to build there Ford branded adaptors anybody hear or read the same?
They initially were using Tesla built adapters, but they couldn't meet demand and then recently had a recall on some of them. So they made an agreement with Lectron to co-design an alternative to the Tesla adapter that is Ford branded. Coming soon.
The guy who parked his Toyota pickup truck maybe thought it was wireless 🤭
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@@ReeWrayEVeryday, Toyota uses Bluetooth 😂
I purchased my mach _E in February. I still have not received the FREE Tesla Adapter.
Yeah we still haven't either. BUT...Ford has recently enlisted Lectron to help load balance their backlog (since Telsa failed them miserably on that) so HOPEFULLY we'll get those adapters here in the next month or 2.
31:06 I couldn't disagree with you more. HI5 gets 1/3 max speed at tesla. PFJ is chef's kiss. Please use your $200 adapter and leave more CCS chargers for the rest of us.
@emrimbiemri3211 you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But I do stand by my comments regarding MY experience on that particular road trip route. I actually do prefer to avoid Tesla SCs whenever possible (which is most of the time), but I still think having more options is better than fewer options. That's said, if I had a HI5 (and I nearly bought one recently), I'd also no doubt be looking to capitalize on the fastest charging speeds whenever possible so I certainly understand where you're coming from.
The mistake a lot makes is they aren't patient enough to charge to 100%.
When you do find a charge station that works at a good charge rate best to make the most of it!
EVs aren't going to work in Australia!
We're just too big!
I went for a little drive down the road the other month from the state I live in to the neighbouring state took 16 hours in a turbo diesel. Imagine if I did it in a electric car! 😂
ReeWray Everyday. It's reviews like this that still keeps me from buying/leasing EV vehicles. Especially when the dealership can't fix them under warranty. No way.
I've not had any issues like that...but I'm all about sharing my real experiences, so if and when I do, I'll be sharing that as well. So far, so good.
I think range anxiety would total cause me issue's.
After 6+ months and 1 long road trip under the belt, I'm finding that it's really not something I worry about all that much. If I were doing road trips every couple of months, I might find it a BIT more of a hassle...but probably still willing to take the trade-off of having a more enjoying driving experience that the EV gives me.
@@ReeWrayEVeryday My wife and I are looking into possible rivian for towing our camper. We might wait a little longer till we find the right vehicle for what we want. Its still a new industry, and i cant wait to see what comes next.
Ford and Rivian are NOT the only other vehicles that can use Tesla Supercharger. GM, Polestar and Volvo all have access to Superchargers.
Yeah, that's true now...
But when I actually recorded that statement, it was just Ford and Rivian. :P
While I understand some charging was for content... This would have still been an absolute nightmare of a road trip for me....
Yeah, it's definitely not for everyone. But this was pretty much a 'worst case' road trip with many miles off the "beaten path" in what amounted to a charging desert. Routes that stayed along major thoroughfares would have required less time spent charging since I'd have easily been able to stay in the faster zone of the charging curve, instead of charging well-above 80% to maintain a safety range due to the lack of options in remote areas.
@ReeWrayEveryday still too much range anxiety for me... And I refuse to change how I do things for something that should make my life easier...
That being said, the new RAM 1500 with the onboard generator seems like the best of both worlds
@@marcjampolsky5280 Here's how I look at it: Given that I only really take 1-4 road trips a year, where I have to rely on DC fast charging, I'm willing to accept a little less convenience during those 10% or so of total miles driven each year. For the other 90%, I'm getting a MUCH more enjoyable driving experience, much less maintenance, and significantly lower energy costs. So it's a trade-off I'm willing to make. But I realize that not everyone would be happy with that trade-off (so I'm not trying to convince you! haha). I just want to try and represent my experience as realistically as I can. :)
I completely understand... That's why the new RAM is so interesting to me.
When I'm just driving around town or doing short commutes etc, full electric... Charging at home etc..
When towing you have full EV torque
When towing or driving long distances, you have an on-board generator running at PEAK efficiency and then you get ICE range. You can also charge at fast charging stations. BUT zero range anxiety.
The generator doesn't connect to the drive train at all, it only charges the batteries kinda like how a train works (or Edison motors for semi trucks)
@marcjampolsky5280 not gonna lie... that DOES sound awesome!
Hence why everyone buys teslas. We’ve had one for five years and never, ever had an issue. Both the vehicle and while charging. 💯
Well, now that we have access to the Tesla Supercharger network too, the difference is really not that great. Plus, (and I realize this is a personal preference) I prefer to have physical buttons for the things I use most, rather than the minimalistic interior design that Tesla uses where the vast majority of functions have to be accessed from the touch-screen display. I also like having my speed and other information in the center of the drivers space and not to the side. But, I've driven a Model 3 for a few days and it was definitely a solid car.
You’re assuming that the Mach-E charging curve is the norm. It is not. It’s pretty bad for the price of the car. If my EV charged at 120 or less at any point under 80% SoC I’d sell it. (It doesn’t)
I was really assessing the charging performance I was getting vs what the car should be capable of. I agree that the charging curve on the Mach-E is not great. But we decided on that particular car mostly because it was my wife's preference and I knew that long road trips would constitute a small minority of the miles that car will get. That said, I find its charging performance acceptable for how we use it and a reasonable trade-off for the driving experience. I'm curious though John, what are you driving?
@ EV6. Typically charges around 243 at EA 350s. 10-80% in 16-17 minutes.
@@ReeWrayEVeryday Your car was charging normally for the Mach-E. Just note that the car doesn't really charge faster at low states of charge like a Tesla or other EVs. Ford designed the Mach-E to have a consistent charge experience regardless of the state of charge (below 80%) when you first plug in. That's why you were getting such high power when you first plugged in at 62% and 71%.
I believe it slows down the rate as the SOC gets higher to protect the battery. I’d rather have my batteries last years longer than to save minutes at the charging station. It’s a complex system that monitors the battery, temperature, and SOC that regulates the rate to maximize battery life.
@ Is that what your Ford tech told you? 😎😎
My biggest issue with my work EV car is the charging infrastructure. It is mostly garbage, and really makes using an EV a big challenge, probably the biggest reason why I won't own one yet.
Yeah, I wouldn't advise anyone who would have to rely on DC Fast Charging as their primary source of charging to make the switch at this point. But, if that's the exception for you and you'll mostly be able to charge at home, then I think having an EV is something that is not only viable, but will provide a superior, more enjoyable, driving experience vs ICE cars.
ReeWay Everyday all the way
These DCFC chargers are committing highway robbery with their extortionist pricing!!!
Yeah, I'd agree that in many cases, the pricing pretty excessive. I hope that as more options come on-line, they'll be forces to be more competitive and prices will come down.
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So who would want an EV then !!
Kind of surprised that was your take-away. From my perspective, if (like most people) roadtrip miles amount to
Listening to your narrative of road-trip charging woe in a Mach E I'm angry all over again that the CCS charging network is such a mish-mash of different suppliers, different capabilities, varying poor reliability, etc. Trying to road-trip on the CCS network sounds just appallingly frustrating. And then there's Tesla, which for a native Tesla vehicle just plain works. period. EX: when my Tesla was less than 2 months old under my directorship, I took a 5K mile road-trip across the vast wilderness of eastern and central Canada simply because my Tesla mapped out the route and said I'd now find superchargers there. The trip was predictable, comfortable, and flawless. It makes sense that North America is transitioning to the NACS standard, and it's about time.
I can't say I feel your pain because I own a Tesla
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If you would have backed in to charge you wouldn't take up 2 spots.
Not true, actually. Since the charge port is in the front quarter panel, if we back in to the space, the cables on the Tesla Superchargers are too short to reach.
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Tesla Superchargers are ust so much more reliable.
Yeah, I'd have to say that's true...at least for now. :P But...they also tend to be a lot busier than CCS charging stations, and now that more brands have access to them, it's only going to get even more busy, I suspect.
EV's seem like a waste of time and too much thinking. High mpg car would be much less problems.
I would agree for long-distance driving, but for the day to day less than 300 miles EVs are great. Charging from home is the best so convenient to never have to fill up with gas.
No problem at all if you have reliable charging infrastructure. I do not think twice about long distance trips because I use the Tesla network. I just put in my destination and the trip is laid out with the Chargers that are needed, and they always work. Only one time that I have an issue and it was with the transformer which required me to move to a different set of chargers. Cost me about 15 minutes. In Europe, CCS two chargers are everywhere and as reliable as Tesla network. In fact, one time on a family trip, we missed the auto train in Florida instead of waiting the next day, my wife just wanted to head home so I swiped right to our home address and took off no planning at all no problems at all. Only difference is I charged at the motel we stayed at. Have my Tesla for six years took trips up to Maine down to Florida up and down East Coast dozens of times no problems and really no waiting because we always stop at meals.
Anything new takes a lot of brain power to quickly understand and get used to the new normal. It took you awhile to get used to using your cellphone and now you feel weird leaving the house without it. High mpg car doesn't have the power or performance of EVs.
Yeah man. I can't tell you how much I appreciate not having to stop for gas now...especially during the winter. My wife will never go back to gas.