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not perfect, but there is a fact to get built, and that is eat healthy and balanced meals, sleep properly, and work out a lot. Thats all there is to it.
Yeah. Anyone who says stuff like “with my program, you can achieve my look!” should automatically raises red flags. People like him who sell a lie, are literally preying on people’s insecurities :(
Nobody's gonna go on a hike with heavy ass weights on their back unless their stupid as shit. The guy genuinely had a good personality and yall be fucking hating
I think they tarnish the trust between experienced body builders and fans who want that lifestyle. I can't look at a body builder who says "join my workout program..." seriously. anymore.
@@idlehawk9553 bro you shouldn't even be looking at those books in the first place, the fact that you gotta have people guide you in workouts when theirs Hella good content for free here on yt is just sad
@@jimmyvasquez5298 It’s just like getting some “hella good content” from someone you admire and want to look like. I see nothing wrong with it if they’re not another bodybuilder selling a scam, which is indiscernable now.
I agree, however G Fuel is no good, independent of Charlie's endeavors or his awesome set up there. -try "Shredded Sports Science G Fuel", that fellow's also rang the Liver King alarm many times over.
I worked out for 13 years... 6 days a week, and had an insane diet and never even came close to looking like that... And neither will anyone else without steroids.
How did people see a dude running around in the woods behind his house, claim to eat nothing but raw meat while being jacked, and thought to themselves, "Yes. This is real."
While watching his apology, I laughed when he explained that he did all of this for the supposed 4000 people who commit suicide every day, along with the 80000 people who attempt every day. And as an individual who was once one of those 80000 people, l'm honored that you took steroids for me. it really brings Justice to my soul and mental health. Thank you for your service Liverking.
The irony in his statement is that taking steroids is like a form of suicide as it increases the risk of many health problems such as heart attacks. So he’s gambling with his life daily . And the primal fad he preaches is a joke, wanna see how primal humans would act and react towards someone like him then just plop him on sentinel island ! he’d be dead in a few moments by guys half his size then they’d eat his liver.
Noel Deyzel said it best and I am paraphrasing it. "No one's gonna care if you're not natural, as long as you're honest about it but, the people you're lying to are going to end up getting hurt."
Really. Makes you wonder why they lie in the first place. There is DOZENS of fitness youtubers unashamed saying they are on gear. Their fanbase knows it, and they are pretty much well loved and respect. No one cares for what you used if you are honest. Dereck from More Plates, Greg Doucette, Noel, and so on
There is literally no way people were actually believing that he was 100% natural when it doesn’t even look like he is 50% natural nor is it even possible to achieve this kind of body in a whole damn year.
Dude it is though. Even when other youtubers called him out earlier (before the 1 hour video of MPMD) people were defending him. Just goes to show that most people have absolutely NO IDEA what can be achieved naturally and not. Heck, even i used roids 10 years ago. I looked natural, so even natural looking guys can be on gear
This is the fitness industry. Roided out folk taking advantage of people who don't know better and think they're getting some special bottled formula. Liver King is just one of many. A lot of the fitness industry is built on lies. It's kind of like the cosmetic industry telling women they need makeup and anti-aging crap to look good when most of it does nothing. The fitness industry is the same.
His abs bulge because HGH (human growth hormones) make your organs grow as well. So his intestines grow as well as the muscles making his stomach bulge out like that. You can always tell when a muscled out guy takes HGH because of the the giant stomach with super defined abs on top.
@@rockyadams2825 Well you’re right about it being intellectually nuked. That’s such a strange take like, he’s clearly on juice, saying he is without evidence isn’t some great moral sin, so like what’s the deal?
The fact he tried to scapegoat with the mental health population is sad, dude has been a pos liar from the start and I’m definitely happy to see him go. Was calling him out as soon as he started social media.
I was vehemently against him claiming natty for years, until this very document proved he was until very recently (3 weeks when he wrote it). The first 5 things listed arent steroids
@@MrFRNTIK gross diet and unnecessary sleep/living conditions (such as putting your electronics in a special container to contain the rays and sleeping on a wooden pallet)
Charlie saying More Plates More Dates brought a big smile to my face. Derek deserves this attention for all the work he does and for exposing this lying turd
The most annoying part about it is that while roiding helps a lot in building muscle, you still need to go to the gym and eat clean if you want the best results... People come down so hard on either side of the issue, either roiding is "cheating" or people who look like chiseled greek statues say they are "natty", it's just dumb man.
At first this situation made me want to smugly say that if anyone fell for the lie in the first place they're dumb and don't have working eyes, but honestly there is so much dishonesty in the "fitness influencer" space that I can hardly blame anyone for not having a solid grip on what is/isn't realistic. I've been tricked before, and anyone that hasn't would be in a very small minority. I at least hope the people he fooled learned the smell of bullshit so they can avoid this happening to them again.
this wasn't a crossover, he just watched a video about MPMD, if that were the case, everytime I watched a video and talked about it to anyone you would count that as a crossover.
I won’t lie, I actually invested in his gimmick for a while cause I wanted him to be real but subconsciously I knew he was juicing that’s why when he made his apology video I really wasn’t surprised.
The beginner trap on fitness internet is undefeated. Anyone who has ever trained knows this guy is on a crazy stack. The dark part is ppl like this guy trick beginners into buying supplements they don’t need
Part of the problem is that the average male in fitness ads or that is in most forms of media when shirtless is on some form of PED. It’s a huge problem. Due to this the average normie might think a lot of physiques are naturally possible that are incredibly juiced. People are talking about it more but it’ll take a man to lead the movement to change that.
True , this and training plans + diet , alooooooots of super juiced dude will sell you the "ultimate secret" wich is 99% bs , the real secret is dedication , healthy food without a calorie surplus , good sleep and workout and i think thats why natural people are angry when some ultra juiced brain try to flex that they are natty
oh yeah, it's noticeable, I go natural, I'll have the bruce lee physique, if I were to suddenly take roids or supplements and look like a balloon, it's going to look sus...
Whenever you say “I’m sure everyone has heard of him” I genuinely sit here and go… Charlie, if you weren’t talking about him, I’d NEVER have heard of him.
I heard of him through Doctor Mike in a vid where he talked bout what the LiverKing could be doing wrong or is he doing it right (I can't remember what the verdict was but i think Mike debunked quite a bit of his tiktoks)
The sad thing is this: this is not the only story of it's kind. There are very few fitness influencers who naturally got their physique naturally. Let alone using the supplements they sell.
i remember seeing one of them that started the fitness video with, "Now don't aim for my physique, I did steroids and you won't look like I do, but these techniques are real."
It's a strategy to making money really. Capitalising on overweight/underweight/even average men who see all of these "naturally achieved" desirable bodies and want them. The worst lie is when they say you can get to their point in a few months or a year.. gaining muscle mass is not at all easy and can be discouraging with enough high expectations
Very glad you mentioned MPMD as he is genuinely the only reason this information is out. I hate seeing people just take the info and make it their own for clout. As always regardless if the story is big or small youre a real one:)
@@colin6603 who cares, he wanted to push further than human limits, that helped him do that, alcohol helps people push further than human limits on not being sober, eating pizza pushes the limits on the feeling like you just ate pizza, who cares
As someone who grew up in a household with a national body building finalist and provincial champion, it is physically impossible, unheard of in any galaxy to be even remotely massive and shredded without taking some form of test, tren, steroid, deca, etc. Those 20 year old fitness influencers you see on IG? They're 5'10 and on heavy amounts of test and their hair will fall out before they hit 25. It takes weeks for results to show, but side effects lag by sometimes up to 2 YEARS. 2 years after you commit to these insane changes to your body, you pay the price. It will NEVER be genetics. It will NEVER be natural, unless you are moderately built and are a student of every living aspect of fitness and diet committment.
As someone who very closely knows someone in the scene as well I full heartedly agree, but I would like to clear one misconception and that is even if you take any of those substances you're not gonna be magically fit/cut, you still have to put in a lot of work to maintain and achieve what he has, but it doesn't justify him lying and deceiving people who don't know better.
I was jacked at 21, but had been working out since 15 or so. It's definitely possible in your twenties, while unlikely especially from "influencers". 30+? Nah, not believing it.
Just wanna clarify that genetics may predispose you to an easier time developing muscles, but fully depending on them will never get you to the point this scammer did physically.
@@ricardasbackus4783 There's been experiments where they take a group of men and seperate them into 4 groups: control, a group that's working out but not taking steroids, a group that's taking steroids but not working out, and a group that both works out and takes steroids. Of course the guys taking steroids and working out gained the most muscle, but the astounding thing is that the guys who were taking steroids and not working out at all were gaining significantly more muscle than the guys who were working out and not taking steroids. So to say you have to work hard to look good on steroids, not really tbh, you will literally gain more muscle taking steroids and sitting on your ass all day than guys who don't take steroids and utterly destroy themselves in the gym.
@@CheMADD I mean, I'm a 22 year old woman that has never been in gym nor cared about working out. He's not jacked like bodybuilders, so I assume it doesn't matter how much muscle person has but how defined? Point is, most people aren't familiar with it or care.
@@Ilivedbih yeah it’s one thing to not care but if you had to put some thought in it and guess I doubt you’d guess that 40+ year old man obtained such a physique without the help of the juice, right? I was just pointing out that most people assumed he is lying. I don’t see anyone calling this BS and defending him is all I’m saying. He is a fraud and I thought we all agreed on that lol
One thing you can never hide after juicing for awhile is the bloated/bubble belly. Even with abs you can always see it. Body builders bellys look so gross when hooked to long.
Shoutout MPMD for going so in depth about this guy. Can’t believe this guy try’s to pass as natty when everyone and their mom knows there is no way in hell he is.
Some people are literally brain dead quite literally. Like I’ve heard people blatantly say Arnold was natty💀. Saying that people now a days can’t achieve what the people in the past did with all the hard work. Like WTF!
Man none of the guys that say there natty are and if you watch natty comps these days there all juiced. Natty body building at a professional level doesn't exist at all.
MPMD is a charlatan who has never had actual size (except in his delts) his legs look (and have always looked) like a natural dude even when he was blasting shit. He made a killing off of turkesterone which has been proven to do actually nothing by using big words to confuse the shit out of his audience who have no idea what he is even saying. Bodybuilder circles laugh at this dude. Why would you take steroid advice from a guy who is bad at bodybuilding. He also tries to claim you can maintain a high level physique on trt which is 1000% bs. You've never ran a steroid cycle clearly because when you inevitable cruise you would have realized this lol. No hate man but this guy's an actual 🤡
I really love MPMD for exposing this kind of stuff. Most people don’t realize how pervasive PED use is in fitness and entertainment, and it has completely warped the concept of male beauty standards as well. You aren’t a failure because 5-10 years of training haven’t successfully given you the physique Hollywood actors achieve in 9 months for a role. All the chicken, broccoli, and rice (and raw testicles) in the world can’t put 40 lbs of lean muscle on someone in a year.
It doesn't help that there's non PED users that just outright lie about their fitness accomplishments. Actual real natty people just pretend they put on 30lbs of muscle in 6 months or curled a world record at 17.
Steroids are pretty common. Common side effects are aggression, shouting in public, being extremely jacked, and usually narcissism and arrogance. Pretty spot on description of Liver King
@@Ubebread1 sure, to the well trained eye you can tell liver king is juicing from a mile away. But there are people who still think The Rock is natty so what does that tell you about the average population.
10:07 it's called a "GH gut". Overuse of HGH is known to severely swell up your abdomen, and he's using a LOT. (10IU, most bodybuilders take like 1IU, maybe crank it up to 2.5 pre-competition)
As someone who has absolutely no fitness knowledge or experience could someone tell me what is the most boiled down simplified way to get a lean shredded body, feel like there’s so much bs out there I don even rlly trust google searches
no one ever thought he was natural. Obviously he does steroids. Liver King never once mentioned that by following his 9 ancestral tenants that you could look like him. He is just spreading a positive message and utilizing his jacked steroid ridden body to promote it.
@@lennyh801 watch Derek's video. He 100% says you can look like him naturally hundreds of times, and claims you can raise your test levels by more than double by doing his pseudo-science BS. Scamming young impressionable people by lying isn't "just promoting a positive message"
This is why I like Noel so much. He is honest about his steroid use so that way people don’t try to give themselves false hope and don’t develop dangerous habits. He truly actually wants to help people get better
0:42 "Much like my ass after eating spicy food, a big leak happened." Charlie has a way with words that truly rivals that of the world's greatest poets, and I'm not even being sarcastic. The way he delivers these lines makes every one of his videos a top-tier stand-up show, while educating the world on some people's unbelievable idiocy at the same time.
I swear the whole"don't believe everything you see on the internet" lesson has gone out the window these days. You only see on social media what people want you to see. That's how predators get away on RUclips for so long is because their public persona "would never be like that" but you never know how the person on the other side of a screen is behind closed doors
One thing I’ve realized from being in the exercise game for a few years now is, the biggest bodybuilders are usually the most insecure people I’ve ever met in my life. A lot of them have body dysmorphia, and even when they’re jacked af, they still don’t like the way they look. This leads them to the self destructive path of massive doses of PED’s, and eventually, their premature death (usually of a heart attack, stroke, or kidney/liver failure).
Haha yes, this is true. After being in the "training" world my whole life (I started doing kungfu as a 7 year old, started with MMA at age of 13 and also black belt in Kudo Daido Juku). I am only 171 cm and weigh 62 KG (171 cm = 5'7.32 136 pounds), but somehow, it always seemed like my confidence was way greater than 99,9% of all the roid heads. It is like most of them are insecure young teenager on the inside. But it makes sense when you think about it, they are trying to compensate for the confidence / self esteem they lack, so they pack on muscles to look dangerous. But big bodies (muscles) require more oxygen, this is why all of them cannot last in a fight in longer than 1 minute. Same thing in the bedroom I would suppose (for you girls who thinks that looks sexy). A lot of them can be nice tho, I am not saying that they are bad people! If you are interested in boosting your confidence, training is always good, but I would suggest you becoming dangerous rather than only look dangerous, because IF something ever would happen, then you can rather rely on the skills you've earned rather than relying on the looks, because not all dangerous people care about physical APPEARANCE, then it is good to have a toolbox to deal with the problem. Training martial arts actually gives real confidence, and it also teaches you to be humble. Visit any gym and you will see that majority there are really nice people, and people training there range from doctors, surgeons to street cleaners. Its a very big variaty of people who train, walks of all lives. Advice: avoid Aikido, Wing Chun and stuff like that, those are what we call "bullshidos".. its basically fake martial arts that uses cult-like behavior to snare in mentally weak people. They dont work, but they refuse to admit so, even tho there are no videos of these "martial arts" actually working in a real life situation nor works in sparring against functional martial arts. Also when you visit a gym, dont try to knock your partner out, be nice, you are there to learn.
@@vipr1142 literally ur comment makes U sound like an insecure 14yo hater😂 ppl r jacked for many reasons, and ppl being built a certain way tells u nothing about their personality
As someone far outside the fitness realm, I was incredibly surprised when I looked into what is actually humanly possible when it comes to natural fitness. The TLDR of my learning is that every fitness mag cover, every gym advertisement, every movie/show with a 'strong man' in it, every high level sports player and even a large portion of the people who regularly show up at the gym are on some kind of gear. When I looked up verified examples of peak human physique I was shocked when they looked more lean than anything. It turns out that massive muscles just aren't natural on humans.
What always surprises me is the difference between building muscle for looks and building muscle for strength. Like, people who actually compete in strongman competitions are build like tanks. Whilst most body builders are building specific muscles to bulge out so they look "Good"
@ @LiarraSniffles_X3 As someone far outside the fitness realm, I People can have big muscles naturally BUT the body will want a decent supply of fat to sustain you. So you are never going to look shredded at the same time. There's a triangle. Natural, Big, Shredded pick two.
Well that makes perfect sense. Literally every ancient civilization has artistic examples of what they consider to be peak male fitness (paintings, statues etc.), and virtually none of them look like the kinds of bodies and muscles you see on fitness magazines. And when you think about it, there's really no evolutionary advantage to having biceps that look like basketballs.
Yep everyone is on gear. Shit i just got off a cycle right now. Even people who don’t look like they are on gear ARE on gear. It’s kinda bad honestly. I would say at any big gym you have more people on steroids than natty
i remember when my favorite RUclipsrs / content creators (Derick MPMD, Chael Sonnen, Coach Greg, penguinz0, Rogan) never had anything to do with eachother or even knew of eachother, and now I get a crossover episode every day
Right? Bodybuilding is like the complete opposite of a naturalistic lifestyle. Like no offense to bodybuilders, but it's pretty clear to see that turning your body into something like that is not achievable without various supplements be it roids or protein shakes.
@@shinyagumon7015 Maybe this isnt comparing roids to supplements like creatine, pre-workout, etc. but you can be a bodybuilder and look a certain way without these supplements. Those are just there to help you by simplifying or making some things easier to support your training. The difference between naturalistic and modern life is that today people are training mostly individual, isolated and limited/straight movement (thats why things like bulgarian split squats exists) its not unnatural per se only with different goals. But with things like genetics they are people in history which look like some bodybuilders would.
yh they were probably lean, fast and fairly strong but they didn't look like fcking gorillas. He wants to live and look like our ancestors but our ancestors did not have access to PED's so idk what he's doin
Honestly the worst thing about the situation is that most people who lift to get big already knew (not to the extent) that he was juicing but the fact he let down the kids who looked up to him and the few who were just beginning in the gym were let down and now turn away from the gym. Something that is physically and mentally beneficial.
I wonder if that person exists. No hate I agree with your viewpoint I just wonder if anyone actually thinks like that. The way I see it if someone gets turned off by one person "cheating" they would never stick with it.
Some times i forget that people dont know that like 98% of these "natty" dudes are fake and that alot of these crazy phisiques are impossible for the normal man to achieve
The fact that he did this from his professional email kills me. He's over hear dying on the "I'm natural" hill, meanwhile he's straight up admitting it (in character). That's not even mentioning how visually obvious it is. Great video Charlie
Thank you! As someone very into fitness and bodybuilding, I'm glad you're shedding on this situation. We absolutely hate when fitness influencers are completely dishonest to push their product.
But his physique is still impressive even if he’s on roids it’s still impressive to have a physique like his it requires a lot of work but roids jus helped him to get bigger
@@abdullahalghamdi1763 Agreed which is why alot of people don't care if you take gear but rather just be honest about it. Lying to sell your product is scummy.
Sad day. I was so ready to live off of nothing but raw livers, animal testicles and to live a lifestyle so primitive that even old Ted would’ve been jealous of me.
reminds me of the highly athletic and trained sportsmen that promoted a "snack" in germany... they made it look like you can eat "milchschnitte" just as a snack without repercussion... people called them out cause its nothing but fat and sugar and they double-down on that advertisement... never again you saw a person doing sports promoting that stuff!!!
If there was a secret to a perfect physique, there wouldn't be hundreds of influencers all selling completely different answers.
The secret is always steroids
They should actually try to sell the juice they are using
@@Idengard lol genius. Famous influencers selling illegal drugs probably isn’t too far into the future.
not perfect, but there is a fact to get built, and that is eat healthy and balanced meals, sleep properly, and work out a lot. Thats all there is to it.
@@Idengard it's illegal. But if it wasn't guarantee they would be the top pushers
Whenever a health/lifestyle-based con artist gets exposed, it's a good thing. It stops them from endangering more people.
Yeah. Anyone who says stuff like “with my program, you can achieve my look!” should automatically raises red flags. People like him who sell a lie, are literally preying on people’s insecurities :(
Nobody's gonna go on a hike with heavy ass weights on their back unless their stupid as shit. The guy genuinely had a good personality and yall be fucking hating
I think they tarnish the trust between experienced body builders and fans who want that lifestyle. I can't look at a body builder who says "join my workout program..." seriously. anymore.
@@idlehawk9553 bro you shouldn't even be looking at those books in the first place, the fact that you gotta have people guide you in workouts when theirs Hella good content for free here on yt is just sad
@@jimmyvasquez5298 It’s just like getting some “hella good content” from someone you admire and want to look like. I see nothing wrong with it if they’re not another bodybuilder selling a scam, which is indiscernable now.
It’s nice to see Charlie’s room evolve over the years, from an empty white room to a basement to a real room. What a journey
Now we just need to wait until he figures out how to use pocket dimentions
It hasn’t been years only several months
And so emotional.
I agree, however G Fuel is no good, independent of Charlie's endeavors or his awesome set up there.
-try "Shredded Sports Science G Fuel", that fellow's also rang the Liver King alarm many times over.
I kinda miss his old room lol
I worked out for 13 years... 6 days a week, and had an insane diet and never even came close to looking like that... And neither will anyone else without steroids.
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It would be more surprising to me if people actually thought he was natural
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so true man i dont understand why people even remotely believe this
Literally
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts
Why would u we all knew he was fraud wither steroids or peds u sure wasnt dirty bulky thats for sure🤦
How did people see a dude running around in the woods behind his house, claim to eat nothing but raw meat while being jacked, and thought to themselves, "Yes. This is real."
Delusional and desperate
I know right? These clowns would have to believe that our ancestors looked like liver king. Nonsense
Same people who thought the "2 natives build a casino in a day with their bare hands" were real.
Mid-life crisis, probably.
Dunno I guess some humans are funny.
While watching his apology, I laughed when he explained that he did all of this for the supposed 4000 people who commit suicide every day, along with the 80000 people who attempt every day.
And as an individual who was once one of those 80000 people, l'm honored that you took steroids for me. it really brings Justice to my soul and mental health. Thank you for your service Liverking.
The irony in his statement is that taking steroids is like a form of suicide as it increases the risk of many health problems such as heart attacks. So he’s gambling with his life daily . And the primal fad he preaches is a joke, wanna see how primal humans would act and react towards someone like him then just plop him on sentinel island ! he’d be dead in a few moments by guys half his size then they’d eat his liver.
You win the day with that comment.
Lol
only mentally weak beta cowards commit suicide
GOAT
“He eats raw testicles… which goes so hard” is an elite line
down the throat
Care to explain?
@@rockyevans1584 Erection joke.
@@rockyevans1584 it’s poetry
@@stickfeed3288 and it rhymes
I always love the phrase "abusing steroids" because it makes it sound like steroids are the victim and honestly it feels accurate here
Steroids need to keep their ancestral tenets and eat balls. They don't get a choice they just have to do it and like it.
@Patrick39 loser
@Malayna Petersen true
@Patrick39 when you have a video titled "WHY JACKSCEPTICEYE DAD MEMES ARE OKAY" on your channel, you are 200% **NOT** better than Penguinz0.
Everyone always askin who's on the steroids but no one ever asks HOW are the steroids?
Noel Deyzel said it best and I am paraphrasing it. "No one's gonna care if you're not natural, as long as you're honest about it but, the people you're lying to are going to end up getting hurt."
Preach👏
Papa Noel really is one of the best in the industry.
EXACTLY
Really. Makes you wonder why they lie in the first place. There is DOZENS of fitness youtubers unashamed saying they are on gear. Their fanbase knows it, and they are pretty much well loved and respect. No one cares for what you used if you are honest. Dereck from More Plates, Greg Doucette, Noel, and so on
what you're saying is true, but i did have a laugh when he first said he wasn't natrual. he almost fooled me with his 280 pounds of pure muscle
There is literally no way people were actually believing that he was 100% natural when it doesn’t even look like he is 50% natural nor is it even possible to achieve this kind of body in a whole damn year.
Dude it is though. Even when other youtubers called him out earlier (before the 1 hour video of MPMD) people were defending him. Just goes to show that most people have absolutely NO IDEA what can be achieved naturally and not. Heck, even i used roids 10 years ago. I looked natural, so even natural looking guys can be on gear
This is the fitness industry. Roided out folk taking advantage of people who don't know better and think they're getting some special bottled formula. Liver King is just one of many. A lot of the fitness industry is built on lies. It's kind of like the cosmetic industry telling women they need makeup and anti-aging crap to look good when most of it does nothing. The fitness industry is the same.
@@royroos8036 really? Alright.
Fam how can u be 50% natural lmaooo
There are men, they defend him 24/7 in comments 😂
No way people actually thought this man was all natural. I thought it was an actual joke for the longest.
What? You mean he is not natty?
@@nodinitiative he thought the man was joking about being natural
Most people are not bodybuilders so you expect all of them to know what a real bodybuilder looks like
He's natural don't be jelly 😜
You’d be surprised. Most people don’t have a single clue when it comes to steroids.
The reason he's called "Liver King" is because his liver is a champ for dealing with all those chemicals he's pumping into himself.
Dude I Lo and Led to that shit had my laughing more then a hyena. These comments like this are Lmao am i right guys FREE YUNG THUG FREE GUNNA
@@IAmSadlyVODS Free YSL 🐍
@@IAmSadlyVODS ?????
@@IAmSadlyVODS I hope they stay locked up forever strictly because of how miserable this attempt at communicating was. God damn that’s hot garbage.
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I love imagining Charlie chuckling to himself and saying "yeah that was a good one" every time he comes up with a metaphor
"bulging turtle shell sixpack" tickled my brain
He single handedly has created numerous things that I quote now on a daily basis 😂
Goofy goober
Comparing the depth of the lines on liver kings abs to a Game or Thrones season was the stand out here for me
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His abs bulge because HGH (human growth hormones) make your organs grow as well. So his intestines grow as well as the muscles making his stomach bulge out like that. You can always tell when a muscled out guy takes HGH because of the the giant stomach with super defined abs on top.
God damn Charlie is just turns into a poet when describing someone...
The fact that he said he was natural and was willing to die on that hill on every podcast makes this even sweeter
Anyone that's always been natty knew damn well he wasn't lol
@@21ps3freak always been natty? You don't need to be natty or a fake one to know. Knowledge in the fitness industry will have you know.
@@bricolmane fair
Yeah of course he'd like about it , he has many businesses that would fail if he did admit it publicly as it turned out in the end.
"Okay, get in the coffin"
It’s pretty obvious he isn’t natural but the fact that he profited so much from the people that did believe he was natural is actually unreal
aye whats good max
Couldn’t they all get together and sue ?
Daddy max has entered the fight
People are dumb, look at only fans. Joe Rogan called this dude out several times.
No it's not.... Have you ever been in a youtube comment section? Twitter? A 3rd world town?
“much like my ass after eating spicy food, a big leak happened” iconic
I don't get how being a juice jockey and having the desire to be a health guru always goes hand in hand
Probably because most people wouldn't know that physiques like that are unnatural.
Egomaniacs and control freaks
I mean if the stat was true the man makes $100 million a year, there's a lot people will do for an income like that
There's a facade that these dudes are healthy as well as strong but they're not
Because he doesn’t want to be a ‘health guru’, he doesn’t care about anyone’s health, he cares about their money
The fact that some people actually believed he was natty is wild.
@@juan6297 Nigga you have no content
Tbh I’m very much in favor of assuming someone is natty till proven otherwise I know it’s not the most intellectual thing to go by
@@rockyadams2825 Why would you assume someone is natural when it’s easy to see when someone with a ridiculous physique isn’t natural
@@rockyadams2825 Well you’re right about it being intellectually nuked. That’s such a strange take like, he’s clearly on juice, saying he is without evidence isn’t some great moral sin, so like what’s the deal?
@@rockyadams2825innocent until proven guilty doesn’t exist in todays society anymore lol
No matter what type of community there is on RUclips Charlie probably already knows about it and is up to date
The fact he tried to scapegoat with the mental health population is sad, dude has been a pos liar from the start and I’m definitely happy to see him go. Was calling him out as soon as he started social media.
The shocking fact that so many people actually thought he was natural just blows my mind. Glad he has been exposed
Bro raw liver gets him like that trust 😂
Been waiting for proof of his roid usage since the first time I heard of him, so pathetic
I didn't know much about how i just always thought it was common knowledge that he was roided
I was vehemently against him claiming natty for years, until this very document proved he was until very recently (3 weeks when he wrote it). The first 5 things listed arent steroids
@@bilbobaggins138 many know he uses roids this just a bot comment
wait that can't be achieved nat- Yeah crazy stuff ikr how did people think that?!
o_o
:(
Seeing Charlie say “juiced to the gills” like my favorite meathead chemist and favorite coach is a delight.
@Patrick39 Who asked ?
@Patrick39 You aren’t worth your weight in Dog Sh!t
Diced to the socks is my fave
@Patrick39 doubtful
@@user-cb9cd5qj6kat what?
"genetics gifted from mount olyumpus" ahahaha
Needle king
Charlie's gift of being able to limitlessly compare things never ceases to amaze me
@Patrick39 no ur not
@Patrick39 eat caca
Ye, it's definitely a special ability that Charlie has mastered
Literally one of the reasons I keep watching him
that’s been his brand for whole decade and it never gets old
What scares me is that somebody probably tried to live the way he said he lives and just suffered for a while
Some of his stuff makes sense like get sleep ( only one I remember) every other word is bullshit
No way you serious bro 💀💀💀
Danny Gonzalez did, made a video following his ways for a week or so and yeah, just suffered for a while LOL
@@coreyvaldis2276 how did he suffer though. Just over exercising or did he get bored of the diet?
@@MrFRNTIK gross diet and unnecessary sleep/living conditions (such as putting your electronics in a special container to contain the rays and sleeping on a wooden pallet)
"Fake it til you make it"
Charlie saying More Plates More Dates brought a big smile to my face. Derek deserves this attention for all the work he does and for exposing this lying turd
Watch Derek and his death star delts and listen to him say crying laughing emoji
Same LOL. Never thought I'd hear Chuck bring him up.
Bro had emails for over a year in his laptop proving he was on steroids… what kind of hard worker can’t even check his emails 😂😂😂
@@depressinghero8845 "crying laughing emoji times a fucking thousand"
So true, this is a perfect crossover
Can we as a society reach the point where we just all accept that this physique is literally impossible without roiding.
You’re tackling the important issues, I like it.
The most annoying part about it is that while roiding helps a lot in building muscle, you still need to go to the gym and eat clean if you want the best results... People come down so hard on either side of the issue, either roiding is "cheating" or people who look like chiseled greek statues say they are "natty", it's just dumb man.
@@Hooga89 agree
I don’t think it’s impossible, but to the other 99.9% of humans who don’t actually possess genetics like that, it is.
Can we also agree it just doesn’t look good? 🤢
I knew he was juiced from just hearing him talking, he has one of those WWF juice-head voices.
At first this situation made me want to smugly say that if anyone fell for the lie in the first place they're dumb and don't have working eyes, but honestly there is so much dishonesty in the "fitness influencer" space that I can hardly blame anyone for not having a solid grip on what is/isn't realistic. I've been tricked before, and anyone that hasn't would be in a very small minority.
I at least hope the people he fooled learned the smell of bullshit so they can avoid this happening to them again.
2:00 “ his 6 pack is more defined than a 4k television “ bro💀😂😂
A moreplatesmoredates and penguinz0 crossover is something I would have never expected to happen this month. What a time to be alive.
Here for it
It’s crazy. I’m starting to think that every RUclipsr knows each other
@@achilles981 Uh. This, genius. Mpmd just released an hour-long vid on this exact topic two days ago. Doesn’t take a gigabrain to figure it out
this wasn't a crossover, he just watched a video about MPMD, if that were the case, everytime I watched a video and talked about it to anyone you would count that as a crossover.
Sauce boss
He looks like the kind of dude who would weep inconsolably if someone made him shave
I won’t lie, I actually invested in his gimmick for a while cause I wanted him to be real but subconsciously I knew he was juicing that’s why when he made his apology video I really wasn’t surprised.
The beginner trap on fitness internet is undefeated. Anyone who has ever trained knows this guy is on a crazy stack. The dark part is ppl like this guy trick beginners into buying supplements they don’t need
@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE okay we wont
This is definitely geared no pun intended lol towards beginners which is a huge percentage out there
Part of the problem is that the average male in fitness ads or that is in most forms of media when shirtless is on some form of PED. It’s a huge problem. Due to this the average normie might think a lot of physiques are naturally possible that are incredibly juiced. People are talking about it more but it’ll take a man to lead the movement to change that.
True , this and training plans + diet , alooooooots of super juiced dude will sell you the "ultimate secret" wich is 99% bs , the real secret is dedication , healthy food without a calorie surplus , good sleep and workout and i think thats why natural people are angry when some ultra juiced brain try to flex that they are natty
@@Hexa1123 Yup every actor as well. The Rock who pretends to be clean is most likely on a mean dosage of a lot of cocktails
Trained for 20 years, got pretty big and a nice physique. Never took juice. No one looks like that without juice. It’s just impossible.
Not impossible, but the closest to a superpower we have. Myostatin deficiency. Either you are born like that or you are not.
honestly yeah, natural bodybuilders look far different, just look at pictures from before steroids were invented
oh yeah, it's noticeable, I go natural, I'll have the bruce lee physique, if I were to suddenly take roids or supplements and look like a balloon, it's going to look sus...
Its possible if you have the genetics
good for u bro!
This man can make any conversation interesting
Can we all take a moment to acknowledge how penguinz is describing this man’s body
Gay
Gay
Whenever you say “I’m sure everyone has heard of him” I genuinely sit here and go… Charlie, if you weren’t talking about him, I’d NEVER have heard of him.
Same boat XD
Im jealous
I’ve heard of him through Danny Gonzalez another great RUclipsr
I heard of him through Doctor Mike in a vid where he talked bout what the LiverKing could be doing wrong or is he doing it right (I can't remember what the verdict was but i think Mike debunked quite a bit of his tiktoks)
SAME lmfao
The sad thing is this: this is not the only story of it's kind. There are very few fitness influencers who naturally got their physique naturally. Let alone using the supplements they sell.
i remember seeing one of them that started the fitness video with, "Now don't aim for my physique, I did steroids and you won't look like I do, but these techniques are real."
It's a strategy to making money really. Capitalising on overweight/underweight/even average men who see all of these "naturally achieved" desirable bodies and want them. The worst lie is when they say you can get to their point in a few months or a year.. gaining muscle mass is not at all easy and can be discouraging with enough high expectations
With all this scam going on, maybe I should preach my own tenets. 9 Modern tenets to living a life on the edge of risk of diabetes.
@@TheDoc_K I don’t see the problem with that
Most of them are straight up liars for sure.
“I could swim in his veins” 😂😂😂😂
It's only a matter of time before one is found out....I wonder if there could be restitution for false statements
It's beyond me how Charlie somehow always manages to come up with the most perfect references for every moment imaginable.
When he said he had more sauce in him than a Chick-Fil-A, my soul left my body 😆
ikr he is like a cartoon character
@@ExpertPenguin and then he said that his abs had more depth than a game of thrones season and i immediately broke
“jacked radagast the brown” had me dead
Very glad you mentioned MPMD as he is genuinely the only reason this information is out. I hate seeing people just take the info and make it their own for clout. As always regardless if the story is big or small youre a real one:)
Yeah Derek more plates more dates has taught me a super physiological amount of knowledge
@@Cheesusrice69222 supraphysiological* the delt gods favourite word
As I was typing I was thinking supra or super lol I'm stoned
Derek is the best
Deathstar Delt Derek is the biggest part of this whole story
🤣🤣🤣 those abs! Dude looks like he's constantly battling a proper tricky shit!🤣🤣🤣
thank god that link to mpmd's breakdown had a time signature cuz that video is a whole documentary
This is why Noel is so cool, he's so up front about his cycle use and tells people not to try to be like him because he's not natty
He’s not cool if he’s a roider
@@colin6603 he was being honest about using steroids
@@colin6603 who cares, he wanted to push further than human limits, that helped him do that, alcohol helps people push further than human limits on not being sober, eating pizza pushes the limits on the feeling like you just ate pizza, who cares
@@colin6603 He is cool. He openly tells he is not natural. He does not put his audience in delusion.
@@colin6603don’t talk shit about Noel. He’s a good guy and means well.
As someone who grew up in a household with a national body building finalist and provincial champion, it is physically impossible, unheard of in any galaxy to be even remotely massive and shredded without taking some form of test, tren, steroid, deca, etc.
Those 20 year old fitness influencers you see on IG? They're 5'10 and on heavy amounts of test and their hair will fall out before they hit 25. It takes weeks for results to show, but side effects lag by sometimes up to 2 YEARS. 2 years after you commit to these insane changes to your body, you pay the price.
It will NEVER be genetics. It will NEVER be natural, unless you are moderately built and are a student of every living aspect of fitness and diet committment.
Some people have a rare genetic disorder that makes your body go balls to the walls with muscle growth. But it is *incredibly* rare.
As someone who very closely knows someone in the scene as well I full heartedly agree, but I would like to clear one misconception and that is even if you take any of those substances you're not gonna be magically fit/cut, you still have to put in a lot of work to maintain and achieve what he has, but it doesn't justify him lying and deceiving people who don't know better.
I was jacked at 21, but had been working out since 15 or so. It's definitely possible in your twenties, while unlikely especially from "influencers". 30+? Nah, not believing it.
Just wanna clarify that genetics may predispose you to an easier time developing muscles, but fully depending on them will never get you to the point this scammer did physically.
@@ricardasbackus4783 There's been experiments where they take a group of men and seperate them into 4 groups: control, a group that's working out but not taking steroids, a group that's taking steroids but not working out, and a group that both works out and takes steroids. Of course the guys taking steroids and working out gained the most muscle, but the astounding thing is that the guys who were taking steroids and not working out at all were gaining significantly more muscle than the guys who were working out and not taking steroids. So to say you have to work hard to look good on steroids, not really tbh, you will literally gain more muscle taking steroids and sitting on your ass all day than guys who don't take steroids and utterly destroy themselves in the gym.
Should be called the “Liar King” for now.
Reminds me of the Lightning McQueen Rusteez comercial. "With Rusteez... a little bit of luck... you too can look like me. Ka-Chow"
I am appalled by how many people actually thought he was natural.
Do people actually believe that though? Like, I’ve never seen someone defining him in any comment section. Everything i see is people calling Bs
@@CheMADD I mean, I'm a 22 year old woman that has never been in gym nor cared about working out.
He's not jacked like bodybuilders, so I assume it doesn't matter how much muscle person has but how defined?
Point is, most people aren't familiar with it or care.
@@Ilivedbih yeah it’s one thing to not care but if you had to put some thought in it and guess I doubt you’d guess that 40+ year old man obtained such a physique without the help of the juice, right?
I was just pointing out that most people assumed he is lying. I don’t see anyone calling this BS and defending him is all I’m saying.
He is a fraud and I thought we all agreed on that lol
you either bulk or cut, being both bulked up and shredded like liver king is impossible
One thing you can never hide after juicing for awhile is the bloated/bubble belly. Even with abs you can always see it. Body builders bellys look so gross when hooked to long.
Don’t worry, he just never stated his final ancestral tenet: eat a dozen trenboloney sandwich’s a day.
DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture6945 go away you meat gazer
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture6945 ok
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture6945 I promise I wont
@@ITalkReddit your botting and still have 4 subs that’s sad
Wow, who could have ever seen this coming?
"Skin a squirrel and eat it's balls off"💀💀
I think we all knew he was lying…
Thank you Jesus Christ.
Go complain to your dad for creating him Mr Jesus
You tell em jeez
@@RLaHive hey hey! Don't bad mouth the jeez that way.
That's no fair, Jesus. You know everything and shit, man.
Shoutout MPMD for going so in depth about this guy. Can’t believe this guy try’s to pass as natty when everyone and their mom knows there is no way in hell he is.
Yeah Derek is great
Some people are literally brain dead quite literally. Like I’ve heard people blatantly say Arnold was natty💀. Saying that people now a days can’t achieve what the people in the past did with all the hard work. Like WTF!
Man none of the guys that say there natty are and if you watch natty comps these days there all juiced. Natty body building at a professional level doesn't exist at all.
@YeaMan go somewhere else and bot
MPMD is a charlatan who has never had actual size (except in his delts) his legs look (and have always looked) like a natural dude even when he was blasting shit. He made a killing off of turkesterone which has been proven to do actually nothing by using big words to confuse the shit out of his audience who have no idea what he is even saying. Bodybuilder circles laugh at this dude. Why would you take steroid advice from a guy who is bad at bodybuilding. He also tries to claim you can maintain a high level physique on trt which is 1000% bs. You've never ran a steroid cycle clearly because when you inevitable cruise you would have realized this lol. No hate man but this guy's an actual 🤡
"His 6 pack is more defined than 4k television " 😂😂😂
Charly we miss your old iconic room please bring it back!
I really love MPMD for exposing this kind of stuff. Most people don’t realize how pervasive PED use is in fitness and entertainment, and it has completely warped the concept of male beauty standards as well. You aren’t a failure because 5-10 years of training haven’t successfully given you the physique Hollywood actors achieve in 9 months for a role. All the chicken, broccoli, and rice (and raw testicles) in the world can’t put 40 lbs of lean muscle on someone in a year.
It doesn't help that there's non PED users that just outright lie about their fitness accomplishments. Actual real natty people just pretend they put on 30lbs of muscle in 6 months or curled a world record at 17.
Steroids are pretty common. Common side effects are aggression, shouting in public, being extremely jacked, and usually narcissism and arrogance. Pretty spot on description of Liver King
Even Stevie Wonder can see his steroid use
@@Ubebread1 sure, to the well trained eye you can tell liver king is juicing from a mile away. But there are people who still think The Rock is natty so what does that tell you about the average population.
@@totalmetaljacket789 *insert every dad saying he benched 405 in high school*
Charlie out here giving better health advise than 75% of fitness influencers 😭
All this info isnt from charlie
What health advice? 😂 dummie
@@tanner1622 the advice is not to listen to BS
Pretty sure he went to collage for nutrition ..
@@cd5433 yep he did
10:07 it's called a "GH gut". Overuse of HGH is known to severely swell up your abdomen, and he's using a LOT. (10IU, most bodybuilders take like 1IU, maybe crank it up to 2.5 pre-competition)
As someone who has absolutely no fitness knowledge or experience could someone tell me what is the most boiled down simplified way to get a lean shredded body, feel like there’s so much bs out there I don even rlly trust google searches
People who actually thought he was natty have never been weight lifting themselves
Theyre probably out climbing trees trying to get that 12 pack
Yes I don’t know anything about the story but I saw the photo and thought steroids.
no one ever thought he was natural. Obviously he does steroids. Liver King never once mentioned that by following his 9 ancestral tenants that you could look like him. He is just spreading a positive message and utilizing his jacked steroid ridden body to promote it.
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@@lennyh801 watch Derek's video. He 100% says you can look like him naturally hundreds of times, and claims you can raise your test levels by more than double by doing his pseudo-science BS. Scamming young impressionable people by lying isn't "just promoting a positive message"
The way you describe things is impeccably on point man, good job lol.
I always thought he called himself the liver king because of how much liver toxicity he could handle.
He takes medicine for that 💀
@@MdoubleHB first off u spammed that same reply on so many other comment. Second, no just no. Cooked food is what caused humanity to evolve
@@Tiger_Black
Apologize yourself for your nonsense.
@@MdoubleHB stop being a goofy goober
@@MdoubleHB john rose simp
Can’t wait to see his follow up video in juet gonna laugh like I always do
I still cant believe people are taking this as some kind of surprise
2:05 his abs have more depth than a Game of Thrones season 😂😂
This is why I like Noel so much. He is honest about his steroid use so that way people don’t try to give themselves false hope and don’t develop dangerous habits. He truly actually wants to help people get better
Noel deyzel?
daddy noel
@@peacethrufire2430think thats who hes talking abt
common noel W
Exactly!
He's the Liver King because somehow his liver survived all of this
"Hopium" 🤣
0:42 "Much like my ass after eating spicy food, a big leak happened."
Charlie has a way with words that truly rivals that of the world's greatest poets, and I'm not even being sarcastic.
The way he delivers these lines makes every one of his videos a top-tier stand-up show, while educating the world on some people's unbelievable idiocy at the same time.
@Patrick39 SHEEEEEEEEEE
It's not even gramatically correct.
Cringe
I like him and his content, but let's be real, the stuff he sais is the stuff you hear come out of every wannabe edgy 15 year old online.
just because its crude doesnt make it bad poetry or literature.
I swear the whole"don't believe everything you see on the internet" lesson has gone out the window these days. You only see on social media what people want you to see. That's how predators get away on RUclips for so long is because their public persona "would never be like that" but you never know how the person on the other side of a screen is behind closed doors
Misinformation is such a dangerous trend, baffling to where our evolution and our choices have led us.
My mom used to tell me "if you see/read it on the internet, it isn't true" and that's what I've been telling myself again, not true until proven true
0:24 What Alex Jones was hoping to look like ....lol worthless both the liver
dude and jones ...Charlie you stay golden
...genetics gifted straight from Mount Olympus... Had me laughing there Charlie
One thing I’ve realized from being in the exercise game for a few years now is, the biggest bodybuilders are usually the most insecure people I’ve ever met in my life. A lot of them have body dysmorphia, and even when they’re jacked af, they still don’t like the way they look. This leads them to the self destructive path of massive doses of PED’s, and eventually, their premature death (usually of a heart attack, stroke, or kidney/liver failure).
Haha yes, this is true.
After being in the "training" world my whole life (I started doing kungfu as a 7 year old, started with MMA at age of 13 and also black belt in Kudo Daido Juku).
I am only 171 cm and weigh 62 KG (171 cm = 5'7.32 136 pounds), but somehow, it always seemed like my confidence was way greater than 99,9% of all the roid heads. It is like most of them are insecure young teenager on the inside.
But it makes sense when you think about it, they are trying to compensate for the confidence / self esteem they lack, so they pack on muscles to look dangerous.
But big bodies (muscles) require more oxygen, this is why all of them cannot last in a fight in longer than 1 minute. Same thing in the bedroom I would suppose (for you girls who thinks that looks sexy).
A lot of them can be nice tho, I am not saying that they are bad people!
If you are interested in boosting your confidence, training is always good, but I would suggest you becoming dangerous rather than only look dangerous, because IF something ever would happen, then you can rather rely on the skills you've earned rather than relying on the looks, because not all dangerous people care about physical APPEARANCE, then it is good to have a toolbox to deal with the problem.
Training martial arts actually gives real confidence, and it also teaches you to be humble. Visit any gym and you will see that majority there are really nice people, and people training there range from doctors, surgeons to street cleaners. Its a very big variaty of people who train, walks of all lives.
Advice: avoid Aikido, Wing Chun and stuff like that, those are what we call "bullshidos".. its basically fake martial arts that uses cult-like behavior to snare in mentally weak people.
They dont work, but they refuse to admit so, even tho there are no videos of these "martial arts" actually working in a real life situation nor works in sparring against functional martial arts.
Also when you visit a gym, dont try to knock your partner out, be nice, you are there to learn.
@@vipr1142 literally ur comment makes U sound like an insecure 14yo hater😂 ppl r jacked for many reasons, and ppl being built a certain way tells u nothing about their personality
It’s been the opposite experience for me. The bigger dudes r usually the nicest and most humble
Imagine liver king's cause of death is liver failure
True I train boxing and feel way more secure about myself than I did when I was just weight training.
I can’t believe he would disappoint Danny Gonzalez like this.
Greg? Is that you?
Bro got access to those ancestral, primal, steroids.
charlie should've waited before uploading this video. He made an epic apology video that he could make 1 million jokes about
As someone far outside the fitness realm, I was incredibly surprised when I looked into what is actually humanly possible when it comes to natural fitness.
The TLDR of my learning is that every fitness mag cover, every gym advertisement, every movie/show with a 'strong man' in it, every high level sports player and even a large portion of the people who regularly show up at the gym are on some kind of gear. When I looked up verified examples of peak human physique I was shocked when they looked more lean than anything. It turns out that massive muscles just aren't natural on humans.
What always surprises me is the difference between building muscle for looks and building muscle for strength. Like, people who actually compete in strongman competitions are build like tanks. Whilst most body builders are building specific muscles to bulge out so they look "Good"
@ @LiarraSniffles_X3
As someone far outside the fitness realm, I People can have big muscles naturally BUT the body will want a decent supply of fat to sustain you. So you are never going to look shredded at the same time. There's a triangle. Natural, Big, Shredded pick two.
basically anyone in pro sports after 1950 cannot be proven to be clean
Well that makes perfect sense. Literally every ancient civilization has artistic examples of what they consider to be peak male fitness (paintings, statues etc.), and virtually none of them look like the kinds of bodies and muscles you see on fitness magazines.
And when you think about it, there's really no evolutionary advantage to having biceps that look like basketballs.
Yep everyone is on gear. Shit i just got off a cycle right now. Even people who don’t look like they are on gear ARE on gear. It’s kinda bad honestly. I would say at any big gym you have more people on steroids than natty
i remember when my favorite RUclipsrs / content creators (Derick MPMD, Chael Sonnen, Coach Greg, penguinz0, Rogan) never had anything to do with eachother or even knew of eachother, and now I get a crossover episode every day
Mannnn that spicy food line OD 😂😂😂😂
I love how he talks about the ancestral life style as if he looks anything like what our ancestors did.
Yeah you look at tribal peoples anywhere in the world, they're all lean/mildly toned
Nobody gets that big on a natural lifestyle
Right? Bodybuilding is like the complete opposite of a naturalistic lifestyle.
Like no offense to bodybuilders, but it's pretty clear to see that turning your body into something like that is not achievable without various supplements be it roids or protein shakes.
@@shinyagumon7015 Maybe this isnt comparing roids to supplements like creatine, pre-workout, etc. but you can be a bodybuilder and look a certain way without these supplements. Those are just there to help you by simplifying or making some things easier to support your training. The difference between naturalistic and modern life is that today people are training mostly individual, isolated and limited/straight movement (thats why things like bulgarian split squats exists) its not unnatural per se only with different goals. But with things like genetics they are people in history which look like some bodybuilders would.
yh they were probably lean, fast and fairly strong but they didn't look like fcking gorillas. He wants to live and look like our ancestors but our ancestors did not have access to PED's so idk what he's doin
Honestly the worst thing about the situation is that most people who lift to get big already knew (not to the extent) that he was juicing but the fact he let down the kids who looked up to him and the few who were just beginning in the gym were let down and now turn away from the gym. Something that is physically and mentally beneficial.
I wonder if that person exists. No hate I agree with your viewpoint I just wonder if anyone actually thinks like that. The way I see it if someone gets turned off by one person "cheating" they would never stick with it.
The fuck you talking about Dalton nobody turned away from the gym because liver king takes deca
Some times i forget that people dont know that like 98% of these "natty" dudes are fake and that alot of these crazy phisiques are impossible for the normal man to achieve
I want Doctor House to speak with Liver King.
Literally everything on the internet should be viewed through a thick lens of skepticism.
The fact that he did this from his professional email kills me. He's over hear dying on the "I'm natural" hill, meanwhile he's straight up admitting it (in character). That's not even mentioning how visually obvious it is. Great video Charlie
@Patrick39 Why are you everywhere? ㅋ
All the test from the roids give stupid confidence.
@@Valentino016 cause he is cringe
More defined than an 4k television. More depth than a GoT season.
Charlie truly amazes me with his choice of words
Edit: My bad. He said 4K not HD
•video is 10 minutes long
•comment posted 2 minutes ago
Hmm
@Juan 🅥 You're not even verified
@@ego525 He says that 2 minutes into the video.
@@hemophilicPainter fr lol
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts
Liver King looks like the real Hercules
CFA really gives you all the sauce you want without charging.
Thank you! As someone very into fitness and bodybuilding, I'm glad you're shedding on this situation. We absolutely hate when fitness influencers are completely dishonest to push their product.
But his physique is still impressive even if he’s on roids it’s still impressive to have a physique like his it requires a lot of work but roids jus helped him to get bigger
@@abdullahalghamdi1763 Agreed which is why alot of people don't care if you take gear but rather just be honest about it. Lying to sell your product is scummy.
quit with the "we" shit bro you don't speak for anyone but yourself
Max gang oh yeah yeah
@@abdullahalghamdi1763 same with Noel Deyzel- but he admits he’s using gear.
Sad day. I was so ready to live off of nothing but raw livers, animal testicles and to live a lifestyle so primitive that even old Ted would’ve been jealous of me.
F in chat for this man.
F
If Liver King is natty I’ll drink Baileys from a shoe.
@@foxsecret F ...uck eating liver, it's gross.
I've never tasted a testicle, but I'm thinking I wouldn't be a fan.
Legend has it Liver king hunts his steroids from the wilds of the ancients guided by the spirits of his juiced ancestors.
it took me 2 years of watching asmongold to realize you guys are two different people
I just checked and said bruh
Lmaoo
I see lies everyday immune to it nobody is whole heartedly real anymore.
The fact that people actually ate up his natty status is beyond wild.
Wym natty
Not as wild as him eating RAW MEAT
@@wasabebo8334 NATTY = Not taking steroids
@@maddyewton5802 thanks
People are still defending him on the more plates more dates video
Seeing these scammers get exposed puts a smile on my face
Literally makes me happy like no other body that's natural has ever looked like him
reminds me of the highly athletic and trained sportsmen that promoted a "snack" in germany... they made it look like you can eat "milchschnitte" just as a snack without repercussion... people called them out cause its nothing but fat and sugar and they double-down on that advertisement... never again you saw a person doing sports promoting that stuff!!!
just need the tons of tech scammers and mules for them where ever their are next!
Probably still making out with a ton of cash though
Nothing to expose anyone with IQ over 10 knows this guy is on gear.