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  • Опубликовано: 30 дек 2021
  • Do you ever wonder which rocks you should pick up on the beach and which ones you should leave behind? In this video, I'll show you how I decide which rocks would probably not do well in a rock tumbler. Then I'll tumble those poor choices so you can see how rocks like those will turn out.
    Thanks to Christina Jelinek for doing the closed captions for this video. If you would like to help out with the closed captions, let me know.
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  • @gjackson6569
    @gjackson6569 2 года назад +359

    It was funny that as I watched you reveal the tumbled rocks, I thought that even with the pitting and undercutting, that many of them looked great to me. Then when you pulled in the ones you showed as examples of great tumbling results, it was clear what you look for in your final product and the other ones clearly didn't measure up. Great video.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +46

      Yeah, I like my rocks REALLY shiny.

    • @guard13007
      @guard13007 2 года назад +28

      Exact same reaction. I was like "Okay, he's just too picky." until I saw the good rocks.

    • @Silvercanth
      @Silvercanth 2 года назад +6

      That's how people that get into art and stuff fall for the Dunning-Kruger effect (if you don't know what that is I'd very much suggest looking it up. It's fascinating and I'd be surprised if it doesn't make you recall people you've met in your life) but you are clearly too smart for that, good job. I had the exact same reaction you did. :P

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +8

      @@Silvercanth I had to look that one up. I can think of many things in my life where as soon as I started learning about it, I realized that the subject was much, much deeper than I realized before.

    • @Silvercanth
      @Silvercanth 2 года назад +4

      @@MichiganRocks Any day where you learn something is a successful day. I'm glad to have played a part in you learning something neat.

  • @paigey-poo4235
    @paigey-poo4235 2 года назад +25

    Fir me the allure of tumbling has never been about making the rocks look “perfect” but to just see the potential of the rock’s character, to see what unique qualities you can bring out of a piece! And a lot of the rocks here are perfect examples! Sure, everybody and their brother has shiny rocks, but finding and working something into a one of a kind palmful of art? That’s my goal!
    There’s certain qualities of the rock you can’t see unless you break it, tumble it, etc!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +6

      I enjoy the process of tumbling more than the finished product. But for me, the challenge is to make them look as perfect as I can. I realize that not everyone has the same goal as I do. The problem is that I tend to show only those perfect examples on my channel. I thought people should know that not all rocks turn out perfect.

    • @blackcat14077
      @blackcat14077 2 года назад +1

      Sums up my thoughts perfectly!

  • @samh1403
    @samh1403 2 года назад +99

    I thought those rocks were looking pretty great out of the lot-o... until you compared them to your typical insanely perfect rocks. It really helped back up you're reasoning for being so picky about the rocks you start with and you're entire process. I'm a big time believer in your methods. You've really helped me out a lot in my first year of tumbling. Thanks for all the help you've been in your videos and on the forum.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +3

      I'm glad you find the videos helpful, Sam. Until you start tumbling, I think it's hard to understand that some rocks polish up great and others don't. Hopefully this helped clear that up.

    • @t2gunner
      @t2gunner Год назад

      @@MichiganRocks I've heard the advice, but the visual drives it to understanding... #RockOn

    • @kokosnood
      @kokosnood Год назад

      I based my whole tumbling method on Rob's videos. THANKS ROB!

  • @Rocking-SLC
    @Rocking-SLC 2 года назад +216

    Hey Rob, what a great demonstration showing some rocks are just not tumble-worthy. Some are perfect just they way they are such as the brachiopods. Others just turn out really disappointing in the end. Thanks for helping your viewers avoid tumbling pitfalls and have a happy and prosperous new year.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +14

      Happy New Year, Earl. I think you have to tumble a few bad rocks yourself to really get the feel for which ones to pick up, but hopefully this speeds up the learning process a little.

    • @nikkiloves78
      @nikkiloves78 2 года назад +1

      I'm stuck in a condo in Southern CA & I'm loving these vids! I have a 5lb bucket with my collection of raw crystal rocks which I would love to tumble. I hope my year ends more like your year begun! 💖✨

  • @gwynnfarrell1856
    @gwynnfarrell1856 2 года назад +113

    Sometimes a rockhound has just got to see what happens in the tumbler. You never know what might become an unexpected gem! Thank you for showing each rock as it progressed. I like that you included the Christmas ornaments as controls. Very educational!
    Happy New Year! 🎉

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +10

      I'm hoping this helps a few people. I get a lot of questions about what rocks should be picked up on the beach.

  • @desertflamingos
    @desertflamingos 2 года назад +50

    Even though I have been picking rocks up my entire life, I am brand new to the tumbling world. I have seen so many of the “perfect tumble” videos it is hard to picture a bad tumble. This was very educational. Thank you!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +6

      Good, I’m glad my failure has been helpful.

  • @R.M.MacFru
    @R.M.MacFru 2 года назад +42

    Well, I have just learned I'm not as much of a magpie as I thought. 😆
    While the batch is not as shiny as your usual, I still think the tumbling was worth it for the color and patterns, particularly the one with the crystal pockets. (This is probably why I love geodes so much.)
    I was happily shocked that the specular hematite stayed intact. I was expecting glittery slurry. And on the one with the big hole...I like the contrast that tumbling created. The hole is the most interesting part of that rock, and the contrast makes it pop out, so to speak.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +7

      I generally don't like holes of any kind, but I do like a large hole if it's full of crystals. I have seen some spheres that have half the rock missing completely that look really cool. I also like crystal hole in a cab sometimes.

  • @sparband
    @sparband 2 года назад +54

    I think that my favorite was the sparkly hematite. I liked the stink stone because it was different. They came out better than I thought too. I love the colors of the granite. It’s too bad that it undercuts.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +7

      I think granite is probably the most collected rock by beginner rock hunters. There's nothing wrong with that. I did the same thing. But after tumbling a few batches of it, I stopped picking it up.

  • @clwbchbabycakes
    @clwbchbabycakes 2 года назад +17

    That first fossil - I would have oiled that like I do seashells. It brings out the color without damaging the piece since those don't need to be shiny. Things that look good wet but not dry - like Petosky stones - can be oiled. The holes with the druzy crystal are awesome!!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +4

      Yes, I have some rough Lake Superior agates that I keep oiled. I don't oil my Petokseys though, I like those just polished.

    • @KristiStClair64
      @KristiStClair64 Год назад

      What kind of oil do you use? They don't go rancid?

    • @clwbchbabycakes
      @clwbchbabycakes Год назад

      @@KristiStClair64 baby oil. You can also use lighter fluid, which is a thinner form of oil.

  • @joannmay-anthony1076
    @joannmay-anthony1076 Год назад +11

    as a rock enthusiast, i like the imperfections. shiny is really nice, but the imperfections are a great looking contrast!

  • @oldhaggys
    @oldhaggys Год назад +2

    I love stones with contrasts on them. Different textures, different colors, different angles and so on. Therefore i love the granit, the stinkstone, the omar. Also I would probably love the granits if they are bigger so I can use them for sensory / fidget stones. The undercutting gives that contrast when you fidget with them

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  Год назад

      It's not that I don't like these rocks. It's that they don't polish the same as the beach rocks that I usually show here. I wanted to do a video showing that not every rock on the beach will tumble the same way.

  • @johnsopko24
    @johnsopko24 2 года назад +16

    I live in Michigan. I found a dirt road that the city laid gravel on and it's loaded with every color quarts Greenstone and about every gem Michigan has. I also have found alot of emeralds in gravel around here. I love rock collecting in Michigan.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      Wow, that sounds like some unbelievable gravel.

    • @elenap15227
      @elenap15227 2 года назад

      A fellow gravel enthusiast! Your Michigan gravel sounds amazing. i only find agate here.

    • @orirune3079
      @orirune3079 9 месяцев назад

      Wait did you just say you found emeralds in gravel? What 🤯?? I need to start searching gravel more I guess.

  • @thomasnaas2813
    @thomasnaas2813 2 года назад +13

    Love your casual, experimental approach. I've run into rocks that don't tumble well, I sometimes use a dremel with buffing wheels and diamond grit to good effect. For the porous stones I mix stone powder of similar hardness with slow drying epoxy, submerge the rocks and stick them in a vacuum pump container for thirty minutes and remove them before it hardens. Tumble on!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +4

      I've never tried stabilizing rocks with epoxy (or anything else). I do realize that some of these could be worked on a cab machine or some other sort of grinder with better results. There's more than one way to polish a rock!

  • @txwaterbird6115
    @txwaterbird6115 2 года назад +9

    Just catching up on rock tumbling videos and your stink stone caught my eye. I actually like it. Those holes give it an interesting look. If I were tumbling it, I would use my water pic to blast out those holes. That's much quicker than a sewing needle. This process only works because my husband and I each have our own water pic. He would not appreciate it if I used a shared tooth implement on rocks.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      I lot of people have suggested both Waterpiks and ultrasonic cleaners. I might need to get one or the other.

  • @katiewood6036
    @katiewood6036 2 года назад +9

    The sandstone may not polish but big pieces look great in an aquarium. Cherry shrimp love picking microfauna off the rough surface. It was interesting to see how they tumbled.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +4

      That one came out of the tumbler pretty much how it went it, but smaller. I agree that some rocks can look great even if they don't tumble well.

  • @kotabear0172
    @kotabear0172 7 месяцев назад +3

    8:23 you cut it in kind of the shape of a cloud. It really matches with the coloring of the rock too. Really pretty

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  7 месяцев назад +2

      That's a super pretty rock. Too bad it's so soft.

  • @adamschaafsma5839
    @adamschaafsma5839 2 года назад +5

    I'm so glad you did this, it makes me feel like it's harder to mess up, and I feel more encouraged to just dive in and tumble.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      It's hard to mess up tumbling too bad. Even if you have a batch that doesn't turn out like you'd like, you can always run them over again. Think of any mistakes you make along the way as learning experiences. I've learned a lot in the past ten years or so.

  • @salishseaquest7952
    @salishseaquest7952 2 года назад +35

    Rob, this was actually very informative. I appreciate all the time you devoted to getting us through the process on all the underrated rocks. It's many weeks of tumbling. I think for the most part you were right because you know what you like -- beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder and the one who is running the tumblers. Happy New Year to you and Nancy!

  • @ethankoh6851
    @ethankoh6851 2 года назад +1

    Having the attention span of a slanted kitchen shelf, I'm amazed that I went through the whole video, great narration

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      I had never thought too much about the attention span of shelves, slanted or not.

  • @katherinehanna3968
    @katherinehanna3968 2 года назад +10

    Loved seeing the before During and after tumbling. I haved collected some smaller pieces that I want to use as wearables, pendants and dangling accessories including earrings, belts, and ties or lacing, many of these are small peanuts or jelly bean sizes in colors from icy white, cool blues/grays, and warm orange/ peachy colors, flattering against skin

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      Sounds like you're going to make some nice stuff!

  • @staceysakkinen1270
    @staceysakkinen1270 2 года назад +8

    I thought they came out great. I really liked the Omar rock, with the contrast from the shine to the dull hole. Thanks for showing us.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +3

      Yeah, that one was pretty neat.

    • @staceysakkinen1270
      @staceysakkinen1270 2 года назад +1

      @@MichiganRocks although you were right about those rocks not doing as well as the other batch you showed us which was absolutely gorgeous.

    • @mlroeder
      @mlroeder 2 года назад

      That is my favourite as well, I think because the rest of it shined up so well that the hole comes across to me like it's deliberate. A feature, not a bug, as it were.

  • @leolamcconnell9872
    @leolamcconnell9872 2 года назад +3

    I'm new to tumbling and I count on you and your methods to receive a "good education". I think you're a natural teacher, I've learned, tumbled and practiced my happy dance. Thank you (a million times) for your efforts.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      Wow, I'm glad you've found my videos so helpful! Thanks for the nice comment!

  • @KatyDidRocks
    @KatyDidRocks 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for the excellent explanation of the difference between porphyry and amygdaloidal crystals!

  • @Shadowhurtz
    @Shadowhurtz 2 года назад +1

    I do admire someone who's not afraid of admitting he can be wrong.
    Plus pretty rocks.
    You got yourself a subscriber.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      I'm wrong a lot. No point in pretending I know everything.

  • @CroneFingrCraft
    @CroneFingrCraft 2 года назад +3

    That shiny grey stone with the big rough indent is gorgeous with the two different textures! I would use it as a stress stone😁

  • @midlifetravelers6151
    @midlifetravelers6151 2 года назад +30

    I love this tutorial, Professor, I am learning the names of the rocks because of you taking the time to identify them in their raw form. Sometimes my rock and mineral identification books don't give a good picture example. Your video definitely does!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +6

      I wish I knew how to identify more of them, but I do what I can. I'm glad it's helping you out.

  • @leannesutter9429
    @leannesutter9429 2 года назад +1

    Thank you, Rob for taking the time to demonstrate this. It gave me a better understanding and will help me to make the decisions with how I clean and polish my Great Lakes finds. I appreciate your explanations on why you prefer polishing certain rocks, how you grade the finished rock/fossil at each stage of the process and the challenges you had with some of them.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      I get questions fairly often about what rocks should be picked up. The short answer is that you should pick up whatever looks good to you. But that answer doesn't help too much if you're planning to tumble them. I'm glad you found this useful, that's what I was going for.

  • @ohhadivist
    @ohhadivist 2 года назад +3

    I got a beginner tumbler last year and I’m really excited to go down to the river and see what rocks I can find once the weather warms up. I don’t think I’ll be so picky but this video gave me a lot to think about when choosing rocks.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      You don't have to be so picky. I didn't start out that way. The thing is, I show a lot of rocks that are much more perfect than these. I thought I should show examples of rocks that don't turn out the same as what I usually show here.

  • @WagonPilotAdventures
    @WagonPilotAdventures 2 года назад +9

    Great video for beginning tumblers to show how different rocks turn out. I think a lot of people start with very high expectations due to rock tumbler advertising pictures. I still tumble a lot of granite since it's plentiful near my house, which makes it easy to experiment and fine tune my methods. Keep up the good work!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      Have you figured out a way to stop the undercutting?

    • @WagonPilotAdventures
      @WagonPilotAdventures 2 года назад +4

      ​@@MichiganRocks Not yet. Granite patterns are so random. I'm just getting back into tumbling after several months off, but I do have two 1lb Nat Geo tumblers now. Going to run some days/grit tests as soon as I finish some pudding stones. Starting to film too.

  • @richardbidinger2577
    @richardbidinger2577 2 года назад +4

    I think the Omar turned out awesome. The contrast gives it a cool look. After seeing your well polished stones, I can understand you being a little biased. You do great tumbling work.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      Thanks, Richard. I figure if I'm going to spend a ton of time tumbling rocks, I want them to look as good as possible. I'd rather be picky before tumbling than disappointed after.

  • @segamble1679
    @segamble1679 2 года назад +1

    I learned so much from this video!!! Just starting tumbling, and just learning what most of the rocks I've been collecting are called was super helpful!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      That's great! You might like this:
      ruclips.net/video/wOCWaZLAVhA/видео.html
      Be sure to watch the follow up video with the answers.

  • @marybethprinkey2635
    @marybethprinkey2635 2 года назад +2

    These are all very lovely I believe that the hematite would make a beautiful statement piece as a necklace

  • @denisemurray412
    @denisemurray412 2 года назад +3

    Great explanation, teacher. You've still got the touch. I have always gotten much information from your videos. I wonder if the 'iffy batch' would transform more with a polish up from the wheel. Could you take them one step further and show us that?

  • @kylaabegglen1275
    @kylaabegglen1275 2 года назад +6

    You crack me up Rob! I was 😂 pretty hard when you asked if it was weird that you were disappointed that those turned out better than you thought.😆 You really do an excellent job of tumbling, probably the best results I've seen. So being picky makes a positive difference for sure. I love that beautiful banded chert you polished, wow!🤩 Thank you for an awesome explanation and demonstration on what rocks not to tumble and why. I hope you and your family have a very happy and amazing New Year!✌🤠

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +3

      I was afraid that this video got a little long, but without talking about why they didn't do well, there wouldn't be much point. I'm glad you found it helpful.

    • @kylaabegglen1275
      @kylaabegglen1275 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks I liked it and didn't even notice it was a bit longer because I was really paying attention to the info. It was full of great information! I love learning from you RUclips Rock Stars! Thanks!😊

  • @SmallWonda
    @SmallWonda 2 года назад +2

    So many pretty rocks - thanks for taking the time to show why some could be disappointing when tumbled - bearing in mind they take so much time & energy to polish... Happy New Year!

  • @insp7
    @insp7 2 года назад +1

    Thank younsomjuch for taking the time to demonstrate the difference between good quality and low quality rock type
    Your teaching chops shine!

  • @Indyanas_ocean_view
    @Indyanas_ocean_view 2 года назад +3

    Super awesome video! On quite a few of those rocks the imperfections are hard to notice unless they are pointed out. I was surprised that the crumbling gray hematite rock got as shiny as it did .😍🥰😇👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      I was really surprised by the hematite too. I'm not sure how something that crumbly doesn't just fall apart.

    • @Indyanas_ocean_view
      @Indyanas_ocean_view 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks I thought it would just turn to dust and disintegrate. 😍🥰😇👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @erinharrington4232
    @erinharrington4232 2 года назад +8

    I'm really excited to watch this when I get a minute! I've been sorting my collection lately so I can finally try tumbling my first batch - definitely going to be rewatching your older videos!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      I hope this is helpful. I learned by trial and error and I might be able to save you a little of the error. However, I think that tumbling a few bad rocks is the way you'll really learn the best, so don't feel bad if they don't all turn out great.

  • @ashb3496
    @ashb3496 2 года назад +2

    I really appreciate you making this video. It is helpful to know what to look for and avoid when beach combing. Thank you for doing the trial and error so that we can have better shines!
    Happy new year!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      I have done a lot of the trial and error more unintentionally in the past. I get questions about what to pick up, so I thought this might be helpful.

  • @CityRockhounding
    @CityRockhounding 2 года назад +2

    Really cool video Rob. It's nice to see a video like this. Thanks for sharing the journey.
    I know how long it takes to polish rocks, and planning a video ahead of time through the process, it's takes some work for sure, I appreciate it.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      I had to plan ahead to collect all these crumby rocks!

  • @tinacluff2793
    @tinacluff2793 2 года назад +4

    I like the omar one, the flat one I can see turned into a pendant, the red one with the crystals was cool, love the yellow one, the black one looked like a galaxy (you said it was kind of crumbly), the big black and crystal one was my second favorite. Still love your Christmas ornaments.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      Wow, it seems like you liked almost all of them!

    • @tinacluff2793
      @tinacluff2793 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks hehe, what can I say I love rocks

  • @azdigger4843
    @azdigger4843 2 года назад +4

    Your crazy? BWAHAHAHAHA! We are all crazy, after all we walk around looking at rocks all the time.

  • @UncertainEarth
    @UncertainEarth 2 года назад

    Thank you for the great video! I love your demeaner and the way you explain everything, no filler, just information.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      Thanks. I don't like a bunch of fluff most of the time either.

  • @benjilee5279
    @benjilee5279 2 года назад +1

    Wait! What?!? It turned out so, so good! And your editing was Magical!!! Great job!

  • @mr.ramjangles5165
    @mr.ramjangles5165 2 года назад +4

    Any tips for tumbling labradorite? I have a rock tumbler in my classroom. The second graders love it! Just found you today…great video! ✅👍🏻

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      I haven't tried it, but I have some ordered. I have only read about people failing at tumbling it, I haven't found any success stories. Maybe I'll have some advice at some point.

  • @carolinesmith1971
    @carolinesmith1971 2 года назад +3

    I just started tumbling rocks and your videos have been so helpful! I’m curious about what would happen if you were to skip the grit stages with petoskey stones and went straight to the polishing stage. Would they just look the same as they do when they’re wet?

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +3

      No, the polish stage is what usually damages Petoskeys more than any other stage (except maybe the 500 stage). It's really hard to tumble Petoskey stones. I have a couple methods that work pretty well. I'll put a link to one here, and the other one will be shown in a future video. Actually, here are four ways to do it:
      How to Hand Polish a Petoskey Stone: ruclips.net/video/sjImNrwR9As/видео.html
      How to Partially Tumble a Petoskey Stone: ruclips.net/video/IBRq7dPD0Lk/видео.html
      Petoskey Stones in Corn Cob Media: ruclips.net/video/grSlZ835VDo/видео.html
      Polishing Petoskeys on a cabbing machine: ruclips.net/video/ZWVidWu9LYY/видео.html

  • @communitypark2313
    @communitypark2313 2 года назад +1

    What an enjoyable & informative way to spend New Year's Eve!
    Thanks so much for sharing, Rob.
    Here's to a Happy, Healthy New Year🎉🎆 & many more Rocky Shores to traverse!!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      Happy New Year! I'm glad you liked the video.

  • @jneihart2
    @jneihart2 2 года назад +2

    Excellent way to finish off the year.... with a video from the rock tumbler extraordinaire! Thank you for a great year of fantastic viewing pleasure! Happy New Year to you and all your family!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoy my videos. I appreciate all the comments too. Happy New Year!

  • @tashacano3324
    @tashacano3324 2 года назад +3

    This was definitely an interesting watch. I only used a rock tumbler once when I was a teenager. I dumped the slurry down the drain😅 Let's just say my parents never let me get rocks to do more than the one batch😂

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      Oops, that could be a costly mistake.

    • @tashacano3324
      @tashacano3324 2 года назад +1

      @@MichiganRocks It was lol they had to redo the plumbing in our bathroom. Luckily we were living in a trailer house at the time and at least it was easier to get to🤣

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      You should have watched this video: ruclips.net/video/j-356YqFox8/видео.html

    • @tashacano3324
      @tashacano3324 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks I was in high school so it was a while back lol definitely pre youtube😂

  • @immaculateconnection
    @immaculateconnection 2 года назад +1

    I just love your channel. I've been a rock nerd since I was a kid, and now I've gotten into rockhounding, and find myself eyeing lapidary as the next piece of the hobby. :D Your videos are interesting and educational without being intimidating at all! Thanks so much for all the work you put in and the information you share!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      I'm glad you're enjoying the videos, Mike. I started with a tumbler and now I have six rock saws, a huge tumbler, a cab machine, two flat laps and other stuff too. Be careful! The good news is, a lot of this stuff can be found used. All of my saws are used.

  • @santadam
    @santadam 2 года назад +1

    Great to see this, thank you! It helped explain some of my more dull batches. Loved seeing your favs at the end!

  • @dylan-cv9il
    @dylan-cv9il 2 года назад +3

    hey rob, so i’m a beginner for tumbling completely, i’m gonna order one of the national geographic tumblers the hobby edition one, as you said in your review the polish is really bad, so i figured i’d get that separately. i found one that looks okay and i wanted your take on it, for step one it’s silicon carbide F80, step two is silicon carbide F220, step 3 is silicon carbide F400, and finally instead of aluminium oxide is ‘pumice powder’, i remember you saying that aluminium oxide is really good for step 3 and 4 so should i go for a different one?

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      I have never heard of using pumice powder for a polish. I also strongly recommend that you use aluminum oxide as your prepolish. I have a link to the Rock Shed in the description. That’s where I buy my stuff. i also buy from Kingsley North for coarse grit. That link is also in the description.

  • @tonys.5940
    @tonys.5940 2 года назад +4

    So based on the results, are you more likely to try tumbling questionable rocks or stick with your previous hunches?

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +4

      I'm comfortable with the decisions I've been making. I guess if I find something really cool, I might be a bit more likely to take it home and give it a try. Overall, I think I predicted pretty well here.

  • @cynthiahappel3697
    @cynthiahappel3697 2 года назад

    I completely agree with you about the tumbling of certain rocks. Nice demo. Thanks

  • @oldgamerchick
    @oldgamerchick 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this video. Now I know which of my rocks to avoid tumbling. Happy holidays to y'all

  • @txwaterbird6115
    @txwaterbird6115 2 года назад +5

    My bete noir is ruby in zoisite. I know there's a way to tumble it and get a shine. My brother-in-law who is a geologist collects spheres and has a beautiful shiny one.
    The problem for me is that I keep trying to polish it (ruby in zoisite) over and over again.
    So if you have any ideas, I hope someone out there might have a hint or 2. 🙏
    Thanks for the video. As always, yours are fun and informative.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +4

      I have only seen pictures of that, never tumbled it myself. I just looked up the two minerals and found that zoisite is 6-7 and ruby is 9 on the Mohs scale. I think that's your problem. Silicon carbide and aluminum oxide are both 9 also, so they're going to have a hard time with the ruby, but will easily wear the zoisite. That's going to cause undercutting, or uneven wear on the two different minerals.
      Your brother in law's sphere was not tumbled. It was probably ground with diamond grinding cups. Some rocks will turn out much better on a cabbing machine or some sort of grinder than they will in a tumbler.

  • @The_red_finger
    @The_red_finger 2 года назад +3

    The algorithim strikes again who else found themselves here by accident lol

  • @lynschultz513
    @lynschultz513 2 года назад

    Good lesson on tumbling and what rocks to choose to get the best results.

  • @reiki11
    @reiki11 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Such character!!!
    Loved it 💕

  • @rebeccaofsunnybrookefarm8469
    @rebeccaofsunnybrookefarm8469 2 года назад

    Thanks for taking the time to teach us the why behind your choices...
    Nice job.

  • @wyomingadventures
    @wyomingadventures 2 года назад +1

    I appreciate your educational tumbling videos! Thanks Rob.

  • @katecarpenter7366
    @katecarpenter7366 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Rob, always learn something new from you.

  • @alantremonti1381
    @alantremonti1381 2 года назад +1

    "Do you ever wonder which rocks you should pick up on the beach and which ones you should leave behind?" Finally--thank you, algorithm, what the heck.

  • @SherryAustinMcginley
    @SherryAustinMcginley 2 года назад +1

    What a good video! We all draw our line in the sand at different places so what’s good for some won’t be good for others. I tend to agree with you and like the smoother, shiny rocks the best.

  • @reneematlock9657
    @reneematlock9657 2 года назад +1

    I'm impressed the hematite turned out as well as it did. I half expected it to completely disappear. The stinkstone turned out better than I thought it would too. The one petoskey stone can be saved but the other wasn't worth the time to pick it up in the first place let alone put it though the tumbler. Granites don't normally polish very well so. while there is pitting in the ones you polished, they are better than I thought they would turn out.

  • @kimfrommn7162
    @kimfrommn7162 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting!! I'm starting to catch on!! It was neat to see how they turned out!! I like the rocks real shiny and perfect like you do. But all the rocks that were just tumbled, I liked them also!!! Thanks for taking out the time to show us!! Happy Happy New Year!! May the two of you have only good things coming your way!! 🤗❤️❤️🙏🏼🎄

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      Some of this stuff is best learned by actually trying things yourself. I think making your own mistakes is one of the best ways to learn. Hopefully this helps out just a little.
      Happy New Year, Kim!

  • @katiedid713926
    @katiedid713926 2 года назад +1

    You know what, I really like how you gave every single rock the benefit of the doubt. I'm serious, you had me rooting for all the rocks. A very fair breakdown of those beauties. And i like it you're a perfectionist so we can appreciate the contrast. Thanks. Happy New Year!!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      I felt sorry for some of those rocks, so I had to be nice to them.

    • @katiedid713926
      @katiedid713926 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks you're hilarious🤣🤣

  • @katherinehanna3968
    @katherinehanna3968 2 года назад

    Really love speckled pups, the more spots the better, esp. Pink and bright blues and greens

  • @k8eekatt
    @k8eekatt 2 года назад

    You are a great teacher! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!

  • @reebee4237
    @reebee4237 2 года назад +1

    Great video, excellent good, better, best examples. Love your tumbling cabinet.

  • @davidhile5363
    @davidhile5363 2 года назад +2

    Occasionally the black stuff will surprise you. Thanks for the excellent demonstration. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE ! 🎉🍷🎆🎉

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      Yep, it even surprised me in this video.

  • @jacquelinejones823
    @jacquelinejones823 2 года назад

    We just got a tumbler for the kids and I to work with! I’m excited to get started. We do NOT know enough about rocks yet. But we will learn as we go!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      You don't need to know too much, just get started and see what happens. If the rocks don't get shiny, you can run them again and you will have learned something. I have several videos on how to tumble, just in case you missed them. Pick the one that most closely matches your situation:
      Rotary tumbler followed by vibratory tumbler: ruclips.net/video/ksrmpPZrAuU/видео.html
      Rotary tumbler with ceramics: ruclips.net/video/dYGFal0e1WY/видео.html
      Rotary tumbler with plastic pellets: ruclips.net/video/EnNvywwztr8/видео.html
      How to use a Nat Geo Tumbler: ruclips.net/video/CsTc1kXUuPo/видео.html
      Tumbling beach rocks in a Nat Geo tumbler: ruclips.net/video/_Vmm24Fc7j4/видео.html

  • @LaurenChurch
    @LaurenChurch Год назад

    I've got my first batch tumbling of random rocks! I've learned a lot from your videos, so thanks!

  • @linden4372
    @linden4372 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the demonstration! Someone who really likes granite or other rocks that undercut in later stages could just stop at 220 in a vibratory tumbler and do the rest by hand or treat with mineral oil to enhance the color like I do. I try to be picky about the granite I pick up and only take home more unusual pieces I feel are worth spending a little extra time on. My guess is that coarser grits still work in the tumbler because they’re enough to cancel out the undercutting whereas the finer ones don’t impact the shape enough.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      I don't think I'd want to hand sand granite, but doing them on a cab machine or flat lap would be another option. Sometimes undercutting is much less with techniques other than tumbling. Thanks for the tip.

  • @BonnieLegion
    @BonnieLegion 2 года назад

    Really enjoyed seeing the contrast between the not so good rocks and the really nice ones, really showed your point well. bless love your videos, they are helping

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      Good, that's what I was hoping for. I didn't want people thinking that just any rocks they pick up on the beach were going to tumble equally well.

  • @staceymcmahan5016
    @staceymcmahan5016 5 месяцев назад

    Great demonstration! I think they all look interesting and great .

  • @berjo77
    @berjo77 2 года назад +1

    Good Morning Rob, and Happy New Year! Yet another great teaching piece of work, most appreciated! I’m watching the H. F. sales for their vibratory tumbler, the 18 pound unit is the only one in stock but that’s too much machine. I now have their “medium” wet saw, so I’ll gain a bit more control prepping wonkie rocks. Thanks again, until the next one!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      I don't think Harbor Freight sells a vibratory tumbler for rocks. I'm pretty sure they're all designed for metal and dry media. If so, the barrels and/or motors won't hold up to the weight of rocks.

    • @berjo77
      @berjo77 2 года назад +1

      @@MichiganRocks Yes, after I mentioned it, I read more, they don’t easily perform well, some leak and seldom hold up. I’ll keep looking and studying. Wait till I can pick up a real rock unit.

  • @UtrechterK
    @UtrechterK Год назад

    I live in Flint, I love digging up rocks and I just found your page and wanted to say thank you for all of the videos! Super helpful!

  • @stevezozuk9622
    @stevezozuk9622 2 года назад +1

    I can see why you don't tumble most of them , and there is definitely some good ones from that batch. Lesson for us all . Very cool , judging by the cabinet you can do a lot of tumbling at a time , smart using a cabinet to muffle the sounds. Thanks for the great tutorial Rob . Cheers

  • @lucisue53
    @lucisue53 2 года назад +1

    I'm a first-time viewer of your channel and wanted to thank you for the detailed information about your process. I am a geologist by training, though it has been many years since I worked in that profession. May I share a tip for cleaning grit out of the pits and holes that you had in some of the rocks? A dedicated WaterPik will help blast into the holes to loosen and remove the grit efficiently. That particular brand (maybe other brands too) can be fitted with different nozzles that focus the spray for different spray intensities, and the flow volume can adjust as well. Thanks again for the informative video - so much fun to watch. It brings back great memories of the rock tumbler we had in school.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      It's kind of funny how many people have suggested that recently. Probably a couple a day for the past week. I participate in an online lapidary forum where some people have suggested a fabric spot cleaning gun. It sounds like they have more pressure than a Waterpik. I think I'll have to try one or the other. Thanks for the tip.

  • @easterazali9237
    @easterazali9237 2 года назад +2

    You were absolutely right master there is a huge difference between hard rocks and soft ones ! You know your rocks for sure ! 🥰👍
    Happy new year to you and the family ! 🥳🎉

  • @JaniceBlake128
    @JaniceBlake128 Год назад

    I just love those rocks. I’m learning but … yours are lovely.

  • @MrHooves89
    @MrHooves89 2 года назад

    You have an awesome channel. I took your advice and checked out Pilgrim Haven a few months ago. Came home with some great finds. Thanks for putting so much work into the videos. Keep up the good work. Happy new year.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      I'm glad you're finding the videos helpful. Happy New Year!

  • @tommelinn4268
    @tommelinn4268 2 года назад +1

    That banded chert towards the end of your video is a really pretty stone and pattern! I have tumbled some it as well and always like the results.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      That's one of my favorite tumbles ever.

  • @hightde13
    @hightde13 2 года назад +1

    For some reason I thought holes like that were limpet damage. Very neat video, thank you!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      I had to look up "limpet". I don't think that's something that's in the Great Lakes.

  • @Star_Rattler
    @Star_Rattler 2 года назад

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching and listening to you explain. I love learning about interests of mine and I've always loved collecting cool rocks ever since I was little. Thanks for putting the time in to make this video. I'll watch some of your others as well, and I subbed. I always love people who pursue their passions and hobbies like this, it's really inspiring. I want to go to the beach now but Long Island Sound doesn't have the best samples.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      Michigan isn't great for rock hunting this time of the year either. The water is better when it's liquid.

    • @Star_Rattler
      @Star_Rattler 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks Hahaha lol I would imagine XD thanks for replying, you're super cool! I hope u find cool rocks soon!

  • @jordanstevens3
    @jordanstevens3 Год назад

    I liked the explanations you gave along with what your expectations where

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  Год назад +1

      Thanks. I'm not always right, but at least you know what's going on in my head.

  • @dianaswett6397
    @dianaswett6397 Год назад

    I love how unique all the stones are.

  • @debivort
    @debivort 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video - great to see that infamous old quartzite once again. Happy New Year!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      That's a famous rock. It's really not my favorite tumble, but it's still setting on my counter. I'm not sure what to do with it.

    • @debivort
      @debivort 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks start a rogue's gallery box of rocks?

  • @tbrooks6404
    @tbrooks6404 2 года назад

    Thanks MR, you are always so informative.

  • @Magicwhitespot
    @Magicwhitespot 2 года назад

    They may not be perfect like you want but they have character! Looks good.
    I really like that flat rocks coloring even though it’s not completely shiny.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      I have a lot of videos showing rocks that tumble better than these, and I thought I should show other rocks that don't come out the same way. Personally, I like my rocks more perfect than these, but I also understand that there are a lot of people who prefer rocks with more character. This video shows the difference.

  • @MarianSelleck
    @MarianSelleck 7 месяцев назад

    Very interesting video, thank you! I will look closer at my choices to tumble.

  • @unclebillsoutdoorandwildli8489
    @unclebillsoutdoorandwildli8489 2 года назад +1

    Good thing that stink rock didnt stink the lot up. Seems like you got a good understanding on how the rocks will tumble. Sometimes you never know. Got a new subscriber. This is my other channel Im about to do some things with. Will be watching your videos again or letting it run while Im out. Was fun to watch. Awesome video

  • @gyroscope915
    @gyroscope915 2 года назад +1

    Really informative.
    I like that you explain your reasoning every step of the way, it makes it very easy to understand even if, like me you don't know much about rocks.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад

      That's how I like to learn, so that's how I tend to teach.

    • @gyroscope915
      @gyroscope915 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks if you don't mind me asking, what if any, is the down side of putting to much water in when you tumble?
      You always talk about how much to fill it with water and I'm curious what affect that has

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      @@gyroscope915 I'm not 100% sure. I think more water will slow down the rocks, and maybe wash off the grit more. With less water, the slurry gets a little thicker, carrying the grit around better.

  • @rockreader4298
    @rockreader4298 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this demo, Rob. This gem of a video is bound to save a lot of us from making the same mistakes. You were pretty much spot on with what you initially thought or knew. Surprise, surprise Lol. Wishing You and Yours a prosperous New Year ahead and the most Spectacular rock and or whatever desirable finds available to you. The same to Everyone else too. Love and Blessings from Nor Cali.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! I hope I speed up the process, but everyone has to tumble some of their own local duds to get a feel for what works and what doesn't.

    • @rockreader4298
      @rockreader4298 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks True enough. Nothing like hands on experience.

  • @storytimewithunclebill1998
    @storytimewithunclebill1998 2 года назад +2

    I see your point. Some of them were ok, but not like you get the others you have done. Was fun to watch. Great video

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +2

      If I'm going to spend weeks or months tumbling a rock, I want to be really happy with it when it's done.

  • @davemi00
    @davemi00 2 года назад

    Great idea Thanks.
    I like them All, individual results are cool to me.

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe 2 года назад

    Interesting. Good experiment! And definitely a LOT of work...

  • @yoopermann7942
    @yoopermann7942 2 года назад +2

    some of those supprised me some didnt, i found if you polish some granites on a cab machine they turn out great,, thank you for the tips

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +3

      Yep, a cab machine is a different story. Puddingstones are another good example of something that does way better on a cab machine.

  • @hallowsgremlin8971
    @hallowsgremlin8971 2 года назад +1

    What a interesting video! I am not knowledgeable about the names of a lot of rocks but I do love learning about them. Where they came from, what they are made of. No matter if they are valuable or not. It is just so amazing how even the most plain looking rock to some. Could with enough time effort and skill be transformed in to something that is so pretty.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 года назад +1

      I feel the same about rocks, it doesn't matter if they're valuable to anyone else, if I like them, then they're valuable to me. It's just fun getting out and looking.

    • @hallowsgremlin8971
      @hallowsgremlin8971 2 года назад

      @@MichiganRocks yes absolutely :) I have fond memories going on school nature trips that let us walk around town and to the local parks. I always came back form those trips at least 5 pounds heavier especially if any trips took us near the river bank.