This was a good over all review I'll share it with the Rock Club members who are new and trying to choose where to begin. We're pretty much on the same page with just those couple difference in how I load and the amt. of grit. And nice this is all about using the Rotary tumbler all the way. The only thing I can add for anyone else reading is; IF you do have a failure and it happens; you can start over and while your rock will be smaller you can achieve a good result in the end. Thanks again. A great resource.
That's a good tip, Margie. I wish I would have remembered to include that because it's a question I get from time to time. People seem to think that they can mess up their rocks beyond repair, but that would be extremely difficult to do.
I have to admit. My husband has a partial denture and I used that! I admitted it to him before, but I think a strong bristle toothbrush? I was laughing when I heard that 😂
You were kind enough to give me a lengthy & very detailed plan to follow for the entire process. I do everything you've just talked about in this video, so I know I'm doing it right. I did, however, start my 1st stage with 46/70 grit & made my 2nd stage 60/90 grit. It's an extra step, but I'm really pleased with the results. This is definitely not the hobby for someone who's impatient. Another thing I try to do is keep all the rocks in the barrel the same hardness or at least close to it. The best thing I've done is ignore the tumbling instructions & asked you for the advice I needed to start my hobby. Thanks again, Rob. You've made tumbling very enjoyable for me
I finish most of my batches with a vibratory tumbler and I don't find that it's all that important to tumble rocks of the same hardness. I have a feeling that it's more important with rotary tumblers. What advantage do you see by adding a 60/90 step after 46/70? I've never heard on anyone doing that.
@Michigan Rocks I used to polish metal bumpers for a living & once in a while I'd come across a bumper that needs a very coarse grit belt. I tried moving down to a finer grit belt & it removed all the coarse grit lines from the previous belt. Once the blemish is out, it took forever to buff the grit lines out, so it's that theory I'm using. So far, I'm getting great results. Tumbling rocks of the same hardness just makes it easier to move the majority of the batch to the next step. Keep in mind that I'm just using my common sense. If you're tumbling rocks that are a 7 on the hardness scale, they're all done around the same time. I've rarely set some aside & added rocks. My 1st step lasts a minimum of 2 week. If there's the slightest imperfection, the 2nd step of 60/90 takes care of that for me. The 60/90 step runs for about 7 days & the results are great, but I don't recommend starting out with smaller rocks or throwing in some softer rocks. The first 2 stages really grind them down to a very smooth feel. No blemishes, cracks, spawls or the like either. The first 2 steps do an incredible job
3:18 I appreciate your humour. Today my first rock tumbler arrived. I've wanted to try this for like 40+ years. My twin barrel has now been going around in circles for about 6 hours with various local rocks collected from Port Macquarie beaches. Thanks for all your videos - I feel well prepared.
Rob, you are the King of tumbling. Hands down. I point anyone who expresses interest in tumbling in your direction. Love the clever different color numbers in the rocks before each tip. That must have taken a bit of time to prepare 😊.
Omg I have gotten all my supplies from The Rock Shed and since then all my rocks have polished. Omg it took me a year before I got a nice polish ! Thank you so so much for all your wonderful advice! Yay!!!!!! I did it !!! 🎉
I continue to be surprised at how many people are using low quality polish, or what I consider to be pre-polish. It's a shame because good polish doesn't even cost more. I'm glad you've got it figured out.
@@MichiganRocks Well as a beginner in tumbling rocks I didn’t know much of anything. I started with what came with my tumbler. Realizing it wasn’t working I started researching RUclips tutorials. Which brought me to your videos. After researching I learned . It’s not that I wanted cheap stuff. I also didn’t research enough before I started …I don’t know about anyone else . But that is my reasoning?
@@lorettamartinez2144 A lot of people are in the same situation. They just don't know any better. It's a shame that so much poor quality polish is for sale.
Bravo! Your tutorial on rock tumbling is the perfect complement to all those instructions that don't seem to care what your stones look like when the cycle is finished. Thanks for your care and attention to what really matters.
Along your point about choosing the right rocks to tumble, one thing I eventually learned was that regardless of the type of rock (chert, granite, quartz, etc..), the shape and characteristics of the rock matters as well. One thing I had to learn was that if a rock has a big hole or crack in it, well then that rock is going to end up being pretty small by the time I moved it to the second stage. Thanks for the great info. Your videos are where I go to if I ever run into a problem or need more information. Thanks for the help!
I don't do much pre-grinding, but I will take very nice rocks to the saw or grinder after a few weeks in the tumbler if they need a little extra attention.
You know Rob, you really put it all together well in this video. The RTH has greatly appreciated your advice over the years and your instructional document (as well as Chuck's advice) was foundational for my personal understanding of how to properly tumble rocks, saving me hundreds of hours and dollars in the process. Thank you!
That was an excellent summary of pretty much every tumbling video you’ve made! And the editing was phenomenal ❤ I took your advice and bought the good grit. Tomorrow, I will take my first batch out of it’s 2nd week of Stage 1. I’m excited to see the results after the 1st week turned out so well. I really do appreciate the knowledge and humor you bring into your videos. Again, thank you so much for all you do for the rockhounding community ❤
I forgot to add that I really like the clear end on the barrel. I imagined the turning looked that way, but the visual certainly shows the importance of spacing. Thanks!
You're welcome. Don't expect as much change in the second week. The first week knocks the sharp edges off and they show the most change. After that, it's a little more slow going.
@@MichiganRocks just took them out of tumbler. The one I’m most interested in has revealed a lot more cracks. I’m considering not putting it back in. I’m afraid they will just get deeper. All the others looking good though.
Thanks Rob great info, I find myself guilty of not running long enough in the first stage, that being said I've had pretty good luck getting a good shine ( been running mostly quartz and chert so far, but have done a few others) thanks again for all the tips only been tumbling since September on fifth batch now.
The more you tumble, the easier it is to be patient. If you really like those perfect rocks, patience is what it takes. But if you don't mind a few flaws, you can sure save some time.
Another great tutorial. Some of the finest if not the finest on the internet. I don't think you fully appreciate the number of people you have helped and will help in the future.
Perfect timing to find your video. It is excellent, well done, not too long, not too short and gives such helpful information. Thank you! Going to go look at my grits, what I have, and go from there. I'll likely be back with a couple of questions before I guy more grit.
Absolutely patience pays off!! I have 4 going now and I wish I had 8 lol, I have to say, your content is very helpful 4 us beginners. Great tips! Thanks Rob
@@MichiganRocks I saw that and I ran the idea by my son, he's in a pre engineering school here in the Twin Cities and he has an idea 💡 along with mine and I think when I get back from my motorcycle trip to Milwaukee in end of May/June, we are going to build one, similar to your design, but we've got a trick up our sleeve so to speak, can't wait to compare and I really can't wait to tumble more than say 1lb at a time lol, it really isn't much in the grand scheme of things, I have red solo.cups full of flat cut agates and other rocks, just waiting to be tumbled, it's a shame, but I believe itll.always be like that, we will always have an abundance of rock ratio, n e ways, dont want to ramble on too long, appreciate the heck out of the tips and tricks Rob. Thank you sir
@@MichiganRocks absolutely, it's in the works. I will be proud to show you when we get it done. It'll be a few months, we got projects going in every area of our lives and we do martial arts as well, busy. I had a small haul today while out rockhounding, it was in the 20's and very windy, but I've been able to figure out a way of finding rocks in the winter, I honestly don't see anyone else oit doing what I do too much in my area, it's basically all to myself and whoever I bring out, I found alot of smalls today and a cooler full of cuttable rocks. I really need to find a scab machine, I think that's my next project maybe purchase one, but how does one buy one of those on a budget lol, used one are close to $700. If u have any ideas on that topic, a scab machine, I wouldn't necessarily need a large scale tumbler if I could polish and shape these stones with a scab... got the juices flowing now, all I can think about
I don't have a great suggestion for you. They're expensive machines. You could think about getting a flat lap instead. I don't like them as much for making cabs, but if you're just polishing rocks, it would be a good alternative. It's "cab" by the way. That's short for "cabochon", one of those domed rocks used in jewelry. Do you watch Agate Dad? He's in Minnesota too. He has a flat lap and made lots of videos using it to polish Lake Superior agates before he got a cab machine. He also has a discount code for buying one.
Thank you so much for this information. I have my first batch of rocks in the tumbler and couldn't figure out why I couldn't get them nice and shiny. I have made several mistakes that I can now correct for the next batch. I'm hooked! :)
I couldn't tell you how much this has helped me and my other channel recovery Rocks MN, dude, Rob, thanks man!! I've reamped basically everything I had been doing, I even stopped a few things due to the tips & tricks you've shared with us. I've shared this video as well. Thank u sir
Thanks Rob! This is a much-needed video. I can't count the number of people on Facebook who ask the same questions about why they are not getting good tumbling results. I agree with all of the points that you make in your video. I'll probably start linking to it when people (usually newbies) ask the typical questions about the problems they are having.
That's why I made this video. I get a lot of very vague questions from beginners who just say something like, "I just took my first batch out of polish and they're not shiny. What did I do wrong?" As you know, that requires a lot of questions in return just to start making a guess. Often, I spend time asking follow up questions, and then never even get a response. From now on, I'll just point people here.
You make a great teacher, Rob. I enjoyed this video very much and I learned quite a bit. I'm about half way down the rabbit hole, I still have to decide if I want to purchase or go the DIY route as I oft prefer. I'm looking forward to tumbling this spring! Thank you as always for sharing this great content :)
I'm glad you liked it. I'm not sure if you can save too much money making your own tumbler, but it might give you more satisfaction to know you made it yourself.
Thanks for the advice. I’ve tumbled rocks about 3 times now and made plenty of mistakes. So, having that background also helps with understanding the importance of your advice and also you are exceptional at tumbling rocks, so I’m going to go along with all your advice! I hope to give my elementary students some tumbled rocks by the end of the school year as presents, so I better get to it!
I normally watch youtube via a roku box on my TV, so no oppportunity to comment. But for this video, I had to grab the laptop and chime in! Everything you say here is true, and on point for improving one's skills. Really terrific! You're a great rock person and a great instructor. Thanks.
Rosie my WIFE 49yrs wants to Tumble Rocks, and so do I. So, we purchased 2-Rotary Tumblers and 1-Vibratory Tumbler. So, I informed her that we should watch everything FROM A PURE MASTER =CHAMPION!!! So, now it is on with the first Tutorial's and maybe one day we can at least halfway Tumble Like You... BTW, YOUR INTRO WAS HILARIOUS =I COULDN'T STOP LMBO!!!
Nancy, Rob stole your toothbrush to clean his rocks. Love the stop action. A lot of work went into making the video, along with the great sound effects. Very through explanation, can tell you were a teacher.
I'm actually about to start recovering from following the manufacturer's instructions. The tiny tumbler my wife gave me for Christmas came with a small bag of rocks to start with. By the time the 2nd stage was finished, about half of the original volume was gone and there was nothing in the manual about adding something for cushioning. As a result, by the time I got through the 3rd phase most of the rocks had chipped and some had broken into smaller chunks with sharp edges. The ceramic filler I bought just arrived so I'll be re-running from 2nd through the polish soon.
I bought a National Geographic tumbler just to do a video about it. I did one video where I followed the directions and had results about like what you described. Then I ran another batch doing it my way and they turned out pretty good. Your next batch should be better.
Can I make a recommendation ? Run your new ceramic media by itself with some 60/90 grit just to smooth out the sharper edges before you add it to your stage 2,3 or 4th stages. Makes a big difference. Good luck
Now that I’m ready to set up my new and first rock tumbler, I knew I could find the perfect how-to video by you to get me started. Thanks Rob! Some of the rocks I’m tumbling are Potomac Marble, which is what the pillars in statuary hall of the Capitol building are made of. It isn’t actually marble, but a very hard conglomerate with a grey or red substrate. The creek I find them in, behind my local grocery, also runs along an old abandoned mine of it. The cut and polished specimens I’ve seen are beautiful, but have never seen tumbled pieces. Can’t wait to see the end results! So glad I watched you first!
Thank you so much for all the information you provided. Yes, I was one of those who tried the florite. It didn't turn out so well all of it is hazy. I put it aside and will revisit tumbling it to a later date and see if I can salvage it.
Fluorite is difficult. I had success, but I can't remember exactly how. I remember trying several different things until I got it figured out. I would like to make a video about tumbling it one of these days.
Great to know about the aluminum oxide. I have it in 1000. But now I'm going to try 8,000. I did learn from you that stages take longer than the book that came with my tumbler. I do a mixture of sizes. I've only tumbled 6 to 7 hardness so far. I haven't tried Obsidian because I'm not sure about trying it yet. Thanks Rob you're videos are very helpful!
Obsidian is really difficult to tumble in a rotary tumbler from what I've heard. You need to run it for really long periods of time in the final stages. I have a video on how to do it in a rotary tumbler. That's actually pretty easy.
Absolutely fantastic video! So much great advice from experience. The best thing I ever did for tumbling was keeping my agates in the first stage for at least 2 weeks. Thanks for sharing!
Try going longer. Check them every week and pull out the perfectly smooth ones. Start the second stage when you have enough perfect ones to fill the barrel. If you like them after two weeks, you'll love them after two months.
Thank you!! You've cleared up some mysteries for me as I work on my first couple of batches. This is a huge help. I had no clue what I was doing wrong.
I get so many vague questions from people trying to figure out what they were doing wrong, that I made this video. It's been really helpful for me too so I don't have to ask a bunch of questions trying to figure out where the problem is.
My kids bought me a rock tumbler for my birthday! Thank you so much for the tumbling tutorial videos! I feel it's going to make my 1st batch a better success! 😊
I love the clear covers while the Tumbler is moving. I just finished a batch with 1200 aluminum oxide, I think it looks great but now I think I'm going to order some 2 micron size to get it really shiny. Your videos are very informative, thank you so much
@@MichiganRocks actually I have a question, what book would you recommend on learning about types of beach rocks around lake Huron and lake Ontario. I looked on Google and Amazon and there's so many different options, I was just wondering if you had a favorite
If you go to my Amazon storefront, which you can find in the description of any of my videos, I have several books listed. I really like all of them. They're not all about identification of Great Lakes rocks, but I think you'll figure out which ones are.
In your last post I made a mention of the polish stage and I'm putting together a video. 1 tbl spn of polish and a half cup water. I can say that the results are amazing.
Good evening! It’s been a while since I’ve stopped by, but I think of all the things I’ve learned and worked out with your advice. Great drill down to the basics, and I’ve only missed (or messed) a few things this past year, as I’ve followed your advice. On point! Thanks for the work, love that demure plaque back there on your wall.
@@MichiganRocks Thanks... I've been panning... sluicing.. dredging gold for decades. I'm an older dad..and now that my boy is 8.. he's all energetic about the river trips. I'm thinking of all the 'rocks' I threw out of my sluice box! Thanks again.🤠
Thank you Ole Wise One...I really needed this. I was really getting frustrated and wanting to reach out to you but your tips will head me in the right direction. Thank You!!!!!!!
Well this answered my questions. I'm going to run the 1200 again as a pre polish until I order some actual decent polish and it comes in the mail. Should be at least a week. Thanks for all the knowledge.
You're welcome. So many people have trouble tumbling and it's not really that hard if you know what you're doing and have the right supplies. Good luck with your batch!
Thanks for the tips! One more thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere is that once the ceramic media wears smaller and smaller, it will start breaking and will have sharp edges, which will ruin the polishing stage. So it's better to take the really small ceramic pieces out between stages, before they get too small.
I have never really had a problem with that. I do throw out the ones that slip through my colander, especially if they're broken, but I'm sure there are plenty of broken ones in there. I have no idea why they don't scratch up my rocks, but they don't.
Thanks, I get very vague questions from people asking why their rocks didn't get shiny. It's really hard to answer those without a lot of information, so I made this with the most common problems I see.
You're welcome. You should join her in her tumbling adventure. You might like it too. My wife comes along on rock hunts with me sometimes. It's a nice hobby to do together.
Well I'm back here lol, I love this channel and I knew right where to go. I finally have everything to tumble. I can't believe this is happening. I'm so excited. 😁 I listened to you and ordered good grit and I did not use what came with. I believe what you said. I have ceramic and I'm ready to finally learn how to do this. I have so much to work with from rock hounding. 😎
Great tutorial video! You make rocktumbling fun and informative. It is a thrill to watch your videos. I've learned so much about tumbling rocks. I'm excited to watch your upcoming rockhound videos for the season, so manny cool rocks at the beach in Michigan 🙂
Wow. This was very informative. I have been trying to make sea glass that actually looks like I got it from a beach. At this stage you can tell it is manufactured. You have given me some things to think about. Nice.
This was a good over all review I'll share it with the Rock Club members who are new and trying to choose where to begin. We're pretty much on the same page with just those couple difference in how I load and the amt. of grit. And nice this is all about using the Rotary tumbler all the way. The only thing I can add for anyone else reading is; IF you do have a failure and it happens; you can start over and while your rock will be smaller you can achieve a good result in the end. Thanks again. A great resource.
That's a good tip, Margie. I wish I would have remembered to include that because it's a question I get from time to time. People seem to think that they can mess up their rocks beyond repair, but that would be extremely difficult to do.
I hope to have some pix to share to prove that coming up.
Thank you for the video (and GO BLUE!)
@@MichiganRocksDid you have long time ago jeleweery makers in poland
@@kamilgrochla6192 I don't know anyone personally from Poland. I have never been to Poland either.
Is anyone going to mention the cool stop motion rock number transitions? That was a lot of work! Great video!
Lots of people mentioned that. I'm glad you enjoyed them.
Oh no, not your wife’s toothbrush! 😂 you’re a great teacher, helping us and having some fun. Nice editing, by the way!
Thanks!
I have to admit. My husband has a partial denture and I used that! I admitted it to him before, but I think a strong bristle toothbrush? I was laughing when I heard that 😂
You were kind enough to give me a lengthy & very detailed plan to follow for the entire process. I do everything you've just talked about in this video, so I know I'm doing it right. I did, however, start my 1st stage with 46/70 grit & made my 2nd stage 60/90 grit. It's an extra step, but I'm really pleased with the results. This is definitely not the hobby for someone who's impatient. Another thing I try to do is keep all the rocks in the barrel the same hardness or at least close to it. The best thing I've done is ignore the tumbling instructions & asked you for the advice I needed to start my hobby. Thanks again, Rob. You've made tumbling very enjoyable for me
I finish most of my batches with a vibratory tumbler and I don't find that it's all that important to tumble rocks of the same hardness. I have a feeling that it's more important with rotary tumblers.
What advantage do you see by adding a 60/90 step after 46/70? I've never heard on anyone doing that.
I need help in tumble polishing BLACK CORAL from Maui. Have a Hawaii State license to harvest the coral.
I need direction.
Thank you
Mitchell Major
@Michigan Rocks I used to polish metal bumpers for a living & once in a while I'd come across a bumper that needs a very coarse grit belt. I tried moving down to a finer grit belt & it removed all the coarse grit lines from the previous belt. Once the blemish is out, it took forever to buff the grit lines out, so it's that theory I'm using. So far, I'm getting great results. Tumbling rocks of the same hardness just makes it easier to move the majority of the batch to the next step. Keep in mind that I'm just using my common sense. If you're tumbling rocks that are a 7 on the hardness scale, they're all done around the same time. I've rarely set some aside & added rocks. My 1st step lasts a minimum of 2 week. If there's the slightest imperfection, the 2nd step of 60/90 takes care of that for me. The 60/90 step runs for about 7 days & the results are great, but I don't recommend starting out with smaller rocks or throwing in some softer rocks. The first 2 stages really grind them down to a very smooth feel. No blemishes, cracks, spawls or the like either. The first 2 steps do an incredible job
Ditto. Absolutely. Well said BFBR
I haven't tumbled coral, except fossilized coral, so I can't help you out. Sorry.
3:18 I appreciate your humour. Today my first rock tumbler arrived. I've wanted to try this for like 40+ years. My twin barrel has now been going around in circles for about 6 hours with various local rocks collected from Port Macquarie beaches. Thanks for all your videos - I feel well prepared.
Good luck, I hope they turn out great!
How did they turn out?
@@charlieinabox1164 dull, but got a second batch almost ready! :)
That was a great tutorial. All of your tutorials are really great with hands on and real life examples. Thanks Rob!
Absolutely 💯
Rob, you are the King of tumbling. Hands down. I point anyone who expresses interest in tumbling in your direction. Love the clever different color numbers in the rocks before each tip. That must have taken a bit of time to prepare 😊.
Yeah, those animations took a couple days. I was happy with how they turned out though, so it was worth the effort.
Omg I have gotten all my supplies from The Rock Shed and since then all my rocks have polished. Omg it took me a year before I got a nice polish ! Thank you so so much for all your wonderful advice! Yay!!!!!! I did it !!! 🎉
I continue to be surprised at how many people are using low quality polish, or what I consider to be pre-polish. It's a shame because good polish doesn't even cost more. I'm glad you've got it figured out.
@@MichiganRocks Well as a beginner in tumbling rocks I didn’t know much of anything. I started with what came with my tumbler. Realizing it wasn’t working I started researching RUclips tutorials. Which brought me to your videos. After researching I learned . It’s not that I wanted cheap stuff. I also didn’t research enough before I started …I don’t know about anyone else . But that is my reasoning?
@@lorettamartinez2144 A lot of people are in the same situation. They just don't know any better. It's a shame that so much poor quality polish is for sale.
I love how this is a video that I just rewatch every month or so
I love that too. Watch all you want!
One thing you have taught me is the need for patience, thank you for all your advice and help
Yep, that's a big thing. It gets easier with every batch.
Rob knows tumbling! These instructions will get you awesome results👍👍
The chapter markers must have taken a good long while to make!! Great stuff Rob
Yeah, that part took forever, but it's kind of fun to do.
Bravo! Your tutorial on rock tumbling is the perfect complement to all those instructions that don't seem to care what your stones look like when the cycle is finished. Thanks for your care and attention to what really matters.
Ditto
Thanks, Lisa!
Along your point about choosing the right rocks to tumble, one thing I eventually learned was that regardless of the type of rock (chert, granite, quartz, etc..), the shape and characteristics of the rock matters as well. One thing I had to learn was that if a rock has a big hole or crack in it, well then that rock is going to end up being pretty small by the time I moved it to the second stage.
Thanks for the great info. Your videos are where I go to if I ever run into a problem or need more information. Thanks for the help!
That's very true. Depending on the crack, sometimes I'll break the rock along the crack to eliminate it.
@@MichiganRocks I take a lot of my rocks to the tile saw before putting them in the tumbler. It saves a lot of time on the first stage.
I don't do much pre-grinding, but I will take very nice rocks to the saw or grinder after a few weeks in the tumbler if they need a little extra attention.
You know Rob, you really put it all together well in this video. The RTH has greatly appreciated your advice over the years and your instructional document (as well as Chuck's advice) was foundational for my personal understanding of how to properly tumble rocks, saving me hundreds of hours and dollars in the process. Thank you!
Thanks, I spent a long time planning this one and a long time making those darn animations.
Video of Excellence! Thank you, now a permanent reference in my library. Sometimes a refresher of the basics is ALWAYS great to have on hand.
Glad you liked it, Todd. I have a lot of tumbling videos here, so you might find something else you like.
Love your numbering animations! And the sound effects! Nice to have something different and cute.
I feel like this sort of video can get a bit dull, so I tried to spice it up.
That was an excellent summary of pretty much every tumbling video you’ve made! And the editing was phenomenal ❤
I took your advice and bought the good grit. Tomorrow, I will take my first batch out of it’s 2nd week of Stage 1. I’m excited to see the results after the 1st week turned out so well.
I really do appreciate the knowledge and humor you bring into your videos.
Again, thank you so much for all you do for the rockhounding community ❤
I forgot to add that I really like the clear end on the barrel. I imagined the turning looked that way, but the visual certainly shows the importance of spacing. Thanks!
Absolutely. I agree wholeheartedly
You're welcome. Don't expect as much change in the second week. The first week knocks the sharp edges off and they show the most change. After that, it's a little more slow going.
@@MichiganRocks just took them out of tumbler. The one I’m most interested in has revealed a lot more cracks. I’m considering not putting it back in. I’m afraid they will just get deeper. All the others looking good though.
Those stop-motion transitions were really clever. Great job!
Thanks!
Thanks Rob great info, I find myself guilty of not running long enough in the first stage, that being said I've had pretty good luck getting a good shine ( been running mostly quartz and chert so far, but have done a few others) thanks again for all the tips only been tumbling since September on fifth batch now.
The more you tumble, the easier it is to be patient. If you really like those perfect rocks, patience is what it takes. But if you don't mind a few flaws, you can sure save some time.
Another great tutorial. Some of the finest if not the finest on the internet. I don't think you fully appreciate the number of people you have helped and will help in the future.
I have an idea. I read these comments and have had a lot of people thank me. It's always nice when people take the time to do that.
3:20 "I use my wife's toothbrush" Very funny.
Perfect timing to find your video. It is excellent, well done, not too long, not too short and gives such helpful information. Thank you! Going to go look at my grits, what I have, and go from there. I'll likely be back with a couple of questions before I guy more grit.
Kingsley North and the Rock Shed is my answer to your grit question, but you can ask anyhow.
Very informative, Rob. You did a great job -- kept it interesting and fun.
I tried to.
@@MichiganRocks You succeeded.
Absolutely patience pays off!! I have 4 going now and I wish I had 8 lol, I have to say, your content is very helpful 4 us beginners. Great tips! Thanks Rob
Yep, I know the feeling of always wanting just one more tumbler. My big homemade tumbler finally has me satisfied.
@@MichiganRocks I saw that and I ran the idea by my son, he's in a pre engineering school here in the Twin Cities and he has an idea 💡 along with mine and I think when I get back from my motorcycle trip to Milwaukee in end of May/June, we are going to build one, similar to your design, but we've got a trick up our sleeve so to speak, can't wait to compare and I really can't wait to tumble more than say 1lb at a time lol, it really isn't much in the grand scheme of things, I have red solo.cups full of flat cut agates and other rocks, just waiting to be tumbled, it's a shame, but I believe itll.always be like that, we will always have an abundance of rock ratio, n e ways, dont want to ramble on too long, appreciate the heck out of the tips and tricks Rob. Thank you sir
Let me know when you get that tumbler built. I can't wait to see your addition.
@@MichiganRocks absolutely, it's in the works. I will be proud to show you when we get it done. It'll be a few months, we got projects going in every area of our lives and we do martial arts as well, busy. I had a small haul today while out rockhounding, it was in the 20's and very windy, but I've been able to figure out a way of finding rocks in the winter, I honestly don't see anyone else oit doing what I do too much in my area, it's basically all to myself and whoever I bring out, I found alot of smalls today and a cooler full of cuttable rocks. I really need to find a scab machine, I think that's my next project maybe purchase one, but how does one buy one of those on a budget lol, used one are close to $700. If u have any ideas on that topic, a scab machine, I wouldn't necessarily need a large scale tumbler if I could polish and shape these stones with a scab... got the juices flowing now, all I can think about
I don't have a great suggestion for you. They're expensive machines. You could think about getting a flat lap instead. I don't like them as much for making cabs, but if you're just polishing rocks, it would be a good alternative. It's "cab" by the way. That's short for "cabochon", one of those domed rocks used in jewelry.
Do you watch Agate Dad? He's in Minnesota too. He has a flat lap and made lots of videos using it to polish Lake Superior agates before he got a cab machine. He also has a discount code for buying one.
Thank you so much for this information. I have my first batch of rocks in the tumbler and couldn't figure out why I couldn't get them nice and shiny. I have made several mistakes that I can now correct for the next batch. I'm hooked! :)
Awesome! I'm glad I could help you out!
I couldn't tell you how much this has helped me and my other channel recovery Rocks MN, dude, Rob, thanks man!! I've reamped basically everything I had been doing, I even stopped a few things due to the tips & tricks you've shared with us. I've shared this video as well. Thank u sir
You're welcome. I'm glad to help!
I also use my wife's toothbrush. Haha. That made me smile
Thanks Rob! This is a much-needed video. I can't count the number of people on Facebook who ask the same questions about why they are not getting good tumbling results. I agree with all of the points that you make in your video. I'll probably start linking to it when people (usually newbies) ask the typical questions about the problems they are having.
That's why I made this video. I get a lot of very vague questions from beginners who just say something like, "I just took my first batch out of polish and they're not shiny. What did I do wrong?" As you know, that requires a lot of questions in return just to start making a guess. Often, I spend time asking follow up questions, and then never even get a response. From now on, I'll just point people here.
I don't watch a bunch of these type, but I do pass them on to folks that do this....and they LOVE them!
If you don't have a tumbler, there's not much of a reason to watch these. I make the beach ones for you, Donna.
@@MichiganRocks And those I love...esp U.P. here! But seriously...I do pass these to folks that LOVE them!
Thank you Rob! Your tutorial worked beautifully! I haven’t had a bad bunch since..!
That's what I like to hear, Obie!
You make a great teacher, Rob. I enjoyed this video very much and I learned quite a bit. I'm about half way down the rabbit hole, I still have to decide if I want to purchase or go the DIY route as I oft prefer. I'm looking forward to tumbling this spring! Thank you as always for sharing this great content :)
I'm glad you liked it. I'm not sure if you can save too much money making your own tumbler, but it might give you more satisfaction to know you made it yourself.
Awesome Guide, as always.
I enjoyed the part of filling the barrel differently and using a transparent lid to show how it works.
I got that idea from rocktumbler.com. It's fun to see what's going on inside.
Awesome Bro 😊 great content my friend ❤ Thanks for sharing Take care have a wonderful week 👋🙋♂️
You're welcome!
Thanks for the advice. I’ve tumbled rocks about 3 times now and made plenty of mistakes. So, having that background also helps with understanding the importance of your advice and also you are exceptional at tumbling rocks, so I’m going to go along with all your advice! I hope to give my elementary students some tumbled rocks by the end of the school year as presents, so I better get to it!
Yep, that's not much time when it comes to rock tumbling. Good luck!
Your channel just gets better and better
You are a rock star
Absolutely the best advice - taught me a lot and made for many more successful tumbles.
I'm glad I could help you out.
Great video! Very educational & entertaining. Keep sending people your way on RUclips. Keep up the good work. Think Spring...
It snowed here today which made it a little harder to think spring. I had been thinking spring pretty steady before that.
I normally watch youtube via a roku box on my TV, so no oppportunity to comment. But for this video, I had to grab the laptop and chime in!
Everything you say here is true, and on point for improving one's skills. Really terrific! You're a great rock person and a great instructor. Thanks.
Wow, thanks for putting in the extra effort to leave a comment. I appreciate it!
All awesome tips for the best polish. And I also but my grits from the same place as you. You do amazing work .
Thanks, Donna.
Wonderful tutorial! I havent bought a tumbler yet and like learning the do's and don't's before jumping in. Thank you
That's exactly what I did and I had pretty good results right off the bat.
Rosie my WIFE 49yrs wants to Tumble Rocks, and so do I. So, we purchased 2-Rotary Tumblers and 1-Vibratory Tumbler. So, I informed her that we should watch everything FROM A PURE MASTER =CHAMPION!!! So, now it is on with the first Tutorial's and maybe one day we can at least halfway Tumble Like You... BTW, YOUR INTRO WAS HILARIOUS =I COULDN'T STOP LMBO!!!
Good luck! There's no reason that you can't tumble rocks just as well as I do.
I got my tumbler and grit coming in tomorrow, I’m so pumped, gonna hunt the creek at work
Woo-hoo! You're going to be having fun soon.
Nancy, Rob stole your toothbrush to clean his rocks.
Love the stop action. A lot of work went into making the video, along with the great sound effects.
Very through explanation, can tell you were a teacher.
Hey! Shhhhh... What are you doing? You're going to get me in trouble!
I'm actually about to start recovering from following the manufacturer's instructions. The tiny tumbler my wife gave me for Christmas came with a small bag of rocks to start with. By the time the 2nd stage was finished, about half of the original volume was gone and there was nothing in the manual about adding something for cushioning. As a result, by the time I got through the 3rd phase most of the rocks had chipped and some had broken into smaller chunks with sharp edges. The ceramic filler I bought just arrived so I'll be re-running from 2nd through the polish soon.
I bought a National Geographic tumbler just to do a video about it. I did one video where I followed the directions and had results about like what you described. Then I ran another batch doing it my way and they turned out pretty good. Your next batch should be better.
Can I make a recommendation ? Run your new ceramic media by itself with some 60/90 grit just to smooth out the sharper edges before you add it to your stage 2,3 or 4th stages. Makes a big difference. Good luck
Good suggestion. Thanks for adding it.
@@MichiganRocksAnything to help the viewers
I am 3 days in tumbling my very first batch and i did use ceramic media in the first stage. I like to experiment so i will see how they turn out.
This is a very helpful video. Saw 2 mistakes I have been making! Thanks for your great work!
That's great, I hope it helps!
Now that I’m ready to set up my new and first rock tumbler, I knew I could find the perfect how-to video by you to get me started. Thanks Rob!
Some of the rocks I’m tumbling are Potomac Marble, which is what the pillars in statuary hall of the Capitol building are made of. It isn’t actually marble, but a very hard conglomerate with a grey or red substrate. The creek I find them in, behind my local grocery, also runs along an old abandoned mine of it. The cut and polished specimens I’ve seen are beautiful, but have never seen tumbled pieces. Can’t wait to see the end results! So glad I watched you first!
Hopefully it tumbles well. Conglomerates are made of different minerals, so they can sometimes be tricky.
I learned the hard way, the first stage takes more than a week. So glad I found your youtube channel, your tips are very helpful.
I think a lot of people learn that way. Hopefully my videos can save some people that frustration.
Thank you so much for all the information you provided. Yes, I was one of those who tried the florite. It didn't turn out so well all of it is hazy. I put it aside and will revisit tumbling it to a later date and see if I can salvage it.
Fluorite is difficult. I had success, but I can't remember exactly how. I remember trying several different things until I got it figured out. I would like to make a video about tumbling it one of these days.
Great to know about the aluminum oxide. I have it in 1000. But now I'm going to try 8,000. I did learn from you that stages take longer than the book that came with my tumbler. I do a mixture of sizes. I've only tumbled 6 to 7 hardness so far. I haven't tried Obsidian because I'm not sure about trying it yet. Thanks Rob you're videos are very helpful!
Obsidian is really difficult to tumble in a rotary tumbler from what I've heard. You need to run it for really long periods of time in the final stages. I have a video on how to do it in a rotary tumbler. That's actually pretty easy.
Absolutely fantastic video! So much great advice from experience. The best thing I ever did for tumbling was keeping my agates in the first stage for at least 2 weeks. Thanks for sharing!
Try going longer. Check them every week and pull out the perfectly smooth ones. Start the second stage when you have enough perfect ones to fill the barrel. If you like them after two weeks, you'll love them after two months.
Thank you!! You've cleared up some mysteries for me as I work on my first couple of batches. This is a huge help. I had no clue what I was doing wrong.
I get so many vague questions from people trying to figure out what they were doing wrong, that I made this video. It's been really helpful for me too so I don't have to ask a bunch of questions trying to figure out where the problem is.
Thank you ,I’ve been tumbling for quite a while now an it’s always fun an informative to watch you ,, plus you have great spots to find rocks !
Yep, your name is memorable, so I remember you commenting for awhile.
Thank you, this is very helpful. I want to get into rock bumbling and want to be well prepared 🙏🏻
You're welcome!
Just recently started my tumbling journey. Your video has helped me a lot! Thank you for this video!!!!
You’re welcome! I’m glad to help.
@@MichiganRocks Yep, I ended up starting my first batch over again. I “should” be fairly close to my first batch being done… should be 🤣
@@michelleelle4622 Good luck!
This is so helpful, thank you! Me and my boys are going to get into rock tumbling. I know it's a game of patience but we want to do it right 😀
You're welcome!
My kids bought me a rock tumbler for my birthday! Thank you so much for the tumbling tutorial videos! I feel it's going to make my 1st batch a better success! 😊
Happy birthday!
@@MichiganRocks Thanks! It was on the 4th of July! 😊
@@lisamills-wv6nc Better than Christmas.
Good video thank you, just ordered a 2lb tumbler. Wanted one for years!
You're going to have fun with that.
I love the clear covers while the Tumbler is moving. I just finished a batch with 1200 aluminum oxide, I think it looks great but now I think I'm going to order some 2 micron size to get it really shiny. Your videos are very informative, thank you so much
You're welcome!
@@MichiganRocks actually I have a question, what book would you recommend on learning about types of beach rocks around lake Huron and lake Ontario. I looked on Google and Amazon and there's so many different options, I was just wondering if you had a favorite
If you go to my Amazon storefront, which you can find in the description of any of my videos, I have several books listed. I really like all of them. They're not all about identification of Great Lakes rocks, but I think you'll figure out which ones are.
Thank you! This was informative, concise, and easy to follow along. I love the rock stop motion transitions too
I'm glad you enjoyed those. Many hours went into making them.
love your channel Rob, I'm just getting into this hobby but have boxes and boxes of rocks collected over the years
You'd better get busy then!
In your last post I made a mention of the polish stage and I'm putting together a video. 1 tbl spn of polish and a half cup water. I can say that the results are amazing.
In a three pound rotary barrel?
Good evening! It’s been a while since I’ve stopped by, but I think of all the things I’ve learned and worked out with your advice. Great drill down to the basics, and I’ve only missed (or messed) a few things this past year, as I’ve followed your advice. On point! Thanks for the work, love that demure plaque back there on your wall.
Did you catch my unboxing video of the plaque? That video was much more fun than this one.
Glad to get started on the right foot! My boy Dexter and I spent the whole week rock hounding... we're all in!! Subscribed!
Thanks for subscribing, and good luck with those rocks. It's a great hobby to do together as a family.
@@MichiganRocks Thanks... I've been panning... sluicing.. dredging gold for decades. I'm an older dad..and now that my boy is 8.. he's all energetic about the river trips. I'm thinking of all the 'rocks' I threw out of my sluice box! Thanks again.🤠
Learned some new stuff. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank you. I have never tumbled stones, but may invest in one soon. This video has helped me.
I have videos showing the whole process too.
Great tips! And I liked the stop-motion countdown very much!
That was excellent tutorial. I have really improved my tumbling from watching you over the years. Thank You Immensely!!
You're welcome, Chris!
This was a great tutorial! Thank you for all of your excellent content. It's a real joy to watch your channel. Thanks!
You're welcome, Ms. Gryphon.
Thanks Rob, you’re the best!!!
You're welcome.
Hi Rob, you are the king of rocks !
Woo-hoo!
I can tell there went a lot of effort in this video, great work!
Yeah, I spent a few minutes on this one, thanks for noticing.
Thank you Ole Wise One...I really needed this. I was really getting frustrated and wanting to reach out to you but your tips will head me in the right direction. Thank You!!!!!!!
You're welcome!
Well this answered my questions. I'm going to run the 1200 again as a pre polish until I order some actual decent polish and it comes in the mail. Should be at least a week. Thanks for all the knowledge.
You're welcome. So many people have trouble tumbling and it's not really that hard if you know what you're doing and have the right supplies. Good luck with your batch!
Thank you for helping us newbies along!
You're welcome, Mom of Will and Pete.
Oh, I agree. Really polished rocks is what I want.
I've been doing one to two months for my first stage then two weeks each for the final stages which I'm very pleased with. Thank you sir
I'm glad I could help!
Very informative! I really liked the animations . All those rocks looked so cool😍🥰😇👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks, Indyana. I was trying to think of something to spice this up.
Thanks for the tips! One more thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere is that once the ceramic media wears smaller and smaller, it will start breaking and will have sharp edges, which will ruin the polishing stage. So it's better to take the really small ceramic pieces out between stages, before they get too small.
I have never really had a problem with that. I do throw out the ones that slip through my colander, especially if they're broken, but I'm sure there are plenty of broken ones in there. I have no idea why they don't scratch up my rocks, but they don't.
Thanks Rob and I want tell Nancy about the tooth brush. A really informative video.
I really hope that "want" was supposed to be a "won't".
Thank you for this. Might soon buy a tumbler and start rocking.
You should! It's a fun hobby.
Enjoyed this tutorial. Thank You Rob! I like your straight forward approach with a little fun inserted here and there.
Thanks, I get very vague questions from people asking why their rocks didn't get shiny. It's really hard to answer those without a lot of information, so I made this with the most common problems I see.
I love these transitions so much like something straight out of the show Chowder :)
I've never heard of Chowder, but it must be awesome!
@@MichiganRocks it’s a cartoon from the early 2000s about cooking food, the main character an apprentice cook named Chowder a cat person kid :)
Oh, thanks.
Really loving your videos! They’re so helpful and easy to follow so thank you very much!! ❤
You're welcome, Pam.
Just finished a batch after almost 2 months. Using a nat geo style tumbler. Used your method and your grit. Success 🙌
Woo-hoo! Was it worth the wait? Did you have fun along the way?
@@MichiganRocks great time. And it really tests patience 😅
Great lesson, and that opening gave me a good chuckle.
Great video …my wife is going to try out tumbling this info was very informative. Thanks Michigan Rocks😊
You're welcome. You should join her in her tumbling adventure. You might like it too. My wife comes along on rock hunts with me sometimes. It's a nice hobby to do together.
I just subscribed and my first tumbler with my first rocks are rolling and rolling now ...thanks 😎
That's awesome, I hope they turn out great. But if they don't, you know where to come for some troubleshooting help.
Well I'm back here lol, I love this channel and I knew right where to go. I finally have everything to tumble. I can't believe this is happening. I'm so excited. 😁 I listened to you and ordered good grit and I did not use what came with. I believe what you said. I have ceramic and I'm ready to finally learn how to do this. I have so much to work with from rock hounding. 😎
It's about time! Get those rocks rollin'!
Thank you, 😊
You're welcome, Stacey.
Great tutorial video! You make rocktumbling fun and informative. It is a thrill to watch your videos. I've learned so much about tumbling rocks.
I'm excited to watch your upcoming rockhound videos for the season, so manny cool rocks at the beach in Michigan 🙂
I'm excited to get out of the house and onto the beach!
You can learn something from every Video you produce!! Excellent Editing!!! 🤗♥️👍
Thanks. Hopefully this one was more educational that usual.
@@MichiganRocks I saved it!!!! 🤣🤣
Wow. This was very informative. I have been trying to make sea glass that actually looks like I got it from a beach. At this stage you can tell it is manufactured. You have given me some things to think about. Nice.
Did you see my attempt at making fake beach glass? ruclips.net/video/yAt1Y5cGfWI/видео.html
@@MichiganRocks I did see it thanks. To think I spent so much time getting labels off when I didn't have too. LOL.
RUclipsr award 👏 🏆 for coolest chapter transition animations!
Thanks!
great advice! thank you
You're welcome!
Wife's tooth brush to funny 😁 Thank you for your hard work 👍 and information
You're welcome, Mike.
Great tips!
Thanks, Jane.
I use a sewing needle, my wife's toothbrush... I had to rewind that. Dude, you're friggin hysterical
I'm glad you're amused.
Great episode for all of us!!!!!! Killing it man. Thank you!
Thanks, Ivan.
Wow, this is a very thorough video. TFS!
You're welcome. I hope it helps you out.
Thanks Rob!
I think you just solved my rocks that won't polish problem. Thanks.
You're welcome. They don't all polish equally.