I have no incentive to go to the overworld unless it’s for Blindseer or upgrading mantras. I literally unlock bell around level 15-16 through diluven with VoT and faster prog and I get to avoid voidwalker vermin? They should add something to the overworld to make it fun again like how it was during verse 1.
The only thing fun about verse 1 was that no one knew what they were doing I have to say I had tons of fun figuring stuff out during the 1200s people were terrified of the depths so that’s why it seems so much better than it does now. The problem deepwoken has now is that the depths is supposed to be this “high risk high reward” thing and they can’t really implement that into the overworld.
@@MrToxic-tf7uz nah maybe they should add like a voidwalker base in the depths and voidwalkers can take bounties there, only it would send them down to layer two for invasions/only taking bounties for people higher level than them(seeing as most people who do layer two are max levels.) this would make the depths seem more scary and seem more risky than overworld.
@@vyasiyer2887no, depths ganking is already super toxic they can make depths actually feel more dangerous by adding more harder mobs and harder events for when higher levels are in the depths
@@holl7wyeah ngl exploring the void sea in Deepwoken is nothing more than boring, idk who decided the occasional lion fish or brain suckler every 30 second was fun. And the only unique enemy that spawns there is a horrible boss with buggy attacks that fling it across the entire map and barely fits the quality of a “boss”
the moment we get something fun it's ruined because of chime's balancing needs. someone cooks up a cancer build that only works in chime and suddenly a whole system needs to get gutted
REAL, shit only gets buffed/nerfed depending on Chime and Overworld is completely left untouched. Ice Eruption Lava Serpent Crystallisation with Gravity Bell is still utterly fucking stupid. Potions ONLY got nerfed because Saltchemist allow you to use them in Chime. They were always overpowered, but no one gave a fuck about it because it didn't touch them in their private server we call Chime. I say that as a potions/bombs main. Wiping people by chugging 2 insanity + no ether potions at people is absolutely fair and balanced. Especially on my artillery thundercall slot. (Thanks heroblades for allowing me to save 80 points, definitely not broken.)
I think they should add a ton of new boats, have them work like armors where you need to find schematics for them and then get ingredients atop of the note cost, and have them have just a ton of new features, with mix and matched stats. Maybe even add quests to get certain special schematics based on npcs or entire factions. Secret bone ship from layer 2???? Frostdraw cannons???? would be awesomesauce
i reckon a cool sea event would be A small arena opens up in the middle of the sea, you go onto it and you are challenged with fighting npcs equivalent to your depths trial but enforcers are squibbos
From the slight teaser that Arch showed us, Conquest is quite literally going to be as removed from the game as Battle Royale is, except from what it sounds like, you actually get rewards from it. The teaser was a Talent shop, so you probably don't even bring(or risk losing) your builds in it. So much for the overworld, I guess?
@@WorstAbaYT actually, it's kind of easy to implement, simply find the physics body of the thing you last jumped from and move your body relative to that.
When I first picked up deepwoken I thought the place "Crypt of the unbroken" and luminants and depths was so interesting, I thought it was massive and had a story in it. Now it's just a glorified mini open world with sailing and parrying
"as soon as potions were viable" by viable u mean they gave you free m1's healing damage and basically everything salt chemist litterally had an answer to anything in the game 💀
Something that could make the seas a lot more interesting is being able to use the guild base as a boat, a giant fortress on the seas like they were supposed to be!
Just make sailing more challenging, you HAVE to wind your sails to move, add a more detailed ocean system with waves and etc, add anchors to boats, add crew members to every part of the map that you can hire for your ship
The issue is that theirs nothing in the water to actually feed players. Arcane Odyssey did all this but it actually had events that were worth the reward. If they made sailing more challenging people would just find it tedious and literally not touch the overworld at all
they added blacksteel pirate towers, mabye some blacksteel pirate boats that will attack you, there can also be a blacksteel port island that randomly spawn that you can raid and it would kinda be like a duengon, sorta like a duke duengon
1. Really tough to ask for anything right now from devs who are already almost half a year late for a pvp mode they promised a year ago. 2. Potions were always broken, you just never participated in ganks where people actually were trying to win and they were hard to make and sustain for a reason. New oath needed a nerf and just cause your salty you can’t cheese your way to victory anymore doesn’t mean your right. 3. The boat idea is actually valid. Let me do something meaningful rather than just afk while staring at a map.
Ngl random island spawning is such a good idea for deepwoken, especially since its a roguelike and theres very low risk since everyone knows what to expect
Simple depth update slow because these alot of reason 1 : What always happens is that bugs lead to you dying on the map in a bullshit way, most recently they added a feature that prevents you from dying in pve if you're over 65% and lost internet or quit game 2 : They tested NPCs and built the story as logically as possible, featuring items rather than games like Blox Fruit that simply build maps and add accessories to sell. 3 : Long updates can add more ideas to the game and future updates, they focus on the fun and balance of the game
I think they should add all the npcs in the boats so that it feels more alive or something so dinghy would have none sloop would have none but all the other boats would have npcs in the hull like a guild base
Bro all they gotta do is add a bigger whirlpool into the void sea, that sucks everyone in to a new server where they're in a green like area where its like an abadoned shipyard with ghost ships and shit, idk if theyll be water or not, but being in that realm, or making it a wave survival sounds hella fun, it could have its own story where you gotta shoot with cannons or sum, with kaido being a real boss fight, with cool loot at the end, itll give a bit more fun into acquring pentras anchor, or introduce a new weapons to the game like ghostlock (gun) a saber/cleaver thingy (spooky gangplank inspired weapon) and petras anchor maybe a rework or sum. idk just yappin a little, but it sounds fun and makes void sea have more depth than just an ardour and ferryman
Deepwoken litterly has ingame lore about Island rising and skining. It is a crime that this game didnt have a dark sea system at the start. Shits litterly in the LORE.
You ask for all these stuff to make the Overworld/Sea to be more interactive but you don’t understand that after a week it will get annoying. When they added Lightning Strikes and Sea Events, it was annoying and a hassle after the first time. Once people understand and master a mechanic it will get boring and tedious
Thats why im making an entire new game from scratch, primarily based on Exploration and Survavaling on an ALIVE WORLD Like arcane odyssey but permadeath and with a more grounded and realistic gameplay and ideas. While also having a similar lore style to deepwoken I have a bunch of things done and im really happy with my results but Im starting to feel that permadeath doesnt really belong in a game like this. You could say is for making the risk of dying something real, yeah that would be a good statement. But the problem comes when it becames just something that makes you rage quit the game and I dont know how to fix that 😭 If Deepwoken is really a roguelike then the devs should find some way to make the whole gameplay(the progression, build making AND EXPLORATION) tied to wiping and make wiping fun. Like making stuff being blocked unless you wiped on certain conditions. So when you wipe you atleast unlocked something that feels real, not only just the more """skill""" you got because that can be easily obtained without wiping(Like in the trial of one for example) Deepwoken right now is more focused on the progress more than the ending, deepwoken devs should start making the ending more fun(and too, adding a real endgame) and making the progress better and more complex and vivid. Because right now deepwoken progression lasts a BUNCH of time for nothing
If you want permadeath, add new content behind it like any other roguelike. Otherwise you could have a semi-permadeath, where it doesn’t kick in until later levels, or you don’t wipe at all but have significant downsides to death.
@@Mambles Thanks for reading my bible LOL Those are really good ideas, thank you. But the game has no Leveling because progression is tied on exploration, stats and other things like equipment or magical attack ideas and ""talents"". So idrk how I would be doing those ideas, but adding content behind wiping is a step on the right direction. I like the idea of dying and learning that I've obtained a bunch of things I can try now that im creating a new character.
I think like 99% of my builds for the past months (many many months) have always just been Deepbound. Have rarely touched Overworld unless its for Chime or some random thing related to some build.
fr only reason i keep going deepbound is so voidwalkers can get off my back every 5 minutes. can't do anything in the overworld without a voidwalker popping up and being a genuine annoyance
@@CrengTabmore deepbounds = less bounties = voidwalkers big sad 🥳🎉🎉 (remember negative multiplied by negative is positive because when bad things happen to bad people, it’s good) = less voidwalkers 😁👍 Anyways stop gatekeeping ☹️
only reason i don't prog in the overworld anymore is due to voidwalkers like damn bro i understand that pvp is a core part of the game but don't push it to the level where i lose a life every 5 damn minutes (South America player btw so yeah my ping is 250-600), i think a way to solving this is by making it so you don't get hunted by voidwalkers if you get positive rep with eylis (atleast above friend) and had done some bounties for them (maybe 2 or 3, less than tacet for sure)
Ok most of the time you cook, this time its in the middle, im not sure you understand how limited roblox can be at times. I do think they should add like pilot ships and floating islands to bring more interesting lands and such because yes the overworld can be boring. But some of the things you said sound good on paper but would probably be garbage in game😅
Limitation breeds creativity, and it's not like anything I said in the video hasn't been done before on roblox. The real problem is the devs not working on content that already exists unless it affects them or becomes really obvious, idk if you saw the most recent CC event but it was a large ship battle which was unplayable because of how poorly the sea is optimized, shortly after that the sea was looked into, with updates like the waves bobbing your ship and heavy optimizations which should've came months ago.
bro is capping if you get jumped in the depths you can lose most of your hp before the fight even started with stupid assassination builds and also depths gankers are really common not rare
ok so here is some ideas: Make small islands as an event in void sea Make Ethiron harder fx: Make the void he comes up from an actualy void where you die, make less health packs, make the bridge at the end of floor 2, when you escape, collapse so you have to be quick (if you are more than 1, its individually activated) Make chasser spawn bounders but you can lure them to run over the edge.
I have no incentive to go to the overworld unless it’s for Blindseer or upgrading mantras. I literally unlock bell around level 15-16 through diluven with VoT and faster prog and I get to avoid voidwalker vermin? They should add something to the overworld to make it fun again like how it was during verse 1.
The only thing fun about verse 1 was that no one knew what they were doing I have to say I had tons of fun figuring stuff out during the 1200s people were terrified of the depths so that’s why it seems so much better than it does now.
The problem deepwoken has now is that the depths is supposed to be this “high risk high reward” thing and they can’t really implement that into the overworld.
remove voidwalkers, that would be enough of an incentive for me to grind in the overworld
@@MrToxic-tf7uz nah maybe they should add like a voidwalker base in the depths and voidwalkers can take bounties there, only it would send them down to layer two for invasions/only taking bounties for people higher level than them(seeing as most people who do layer two are max levels.) this would make the depths seem more scary and seem more risky than overworld.
no bro the ganking problem in the depths would only worsen@@vyasiyer2887
@@vyasiyer2887no, depths ganking is already super toxic they can make depths actually feel more dangerous by adding more harder mobs and harder events for when higher levels are in the depths
bro legit had a whole yap session asking the devs to make the game an arcane odyssey clone, and he was RIGHT SMH
really need a dark sea equivalent. If there's no "uncharted" territory then this is not a sea exploration game but a made in abyss clone.
@@holl7w the game is nothing like made in abyss other than the concept of layers tf u mean 😭
@@hyperbroli6672 The depths throne and the forge of sin, The Divers, most of the lore, so pretty much most of the game is inspired by made in abyss.
@@holl7wmaybe void sea rework
@@holl7wyeah ngl exploring the void sea in Deepwoken is nothing more than boring, idk who decided the occasional lion fish or brain suckler every 30 second was fun.
And the only unique enemy that spawns there is a horrible boss with buggy attacks that fling it across the entire map and barely fits the quality of a “boss”
honestly super valid, been a while since we've had significant permanent overworld content.
the moment we get something fun it's ruined because of chime's balancing needs. someone cooks up a cancer build that only works in chime and suddenly a whole system needs to get gutted
Just fucking add a separate mode in chime where u don't lose or gain any elo
REAL, shit only gets buffed/nerfed depending on Chime and Overworld is completely left untouched.
Ice Eruption Lava Serpent Crystallisation with Gravity Bell is still utterly fucking stupid.
Potions ONLY got nerfed because Saltchemist allow you to use them in Chime. They were always overpowered, but no one gave a fuck about it because it didn't touch them in their private server we call Chime.
I say that as a potions/bombs main. Wiping people by chugging 2 insanity + no ether potions at people is absolutely fair and balanced. Especially on my artillery thundercall slot. (Thanks heroblades for allowing me to save 80 points, definitely not broken.)
Conquest has been right around the corner for 3 months
he still thinks update is this year 🤣
and its still not out…
I think they should add a ton of new boats, have them work like armors where you need to find schematics for them and then get ingredients atop of the note cost, and have them have just a ton of new features, with mix and matched stats. Maybe even add quests to get certain special schematics based on npcs or entire factions. Secret bone ship from layer 2???? Frostdraw cannons???? would be awesomesauce
arcane odyssey 😱
Sounds good on paper, but still wouldn't fix the issue of people just going to depths to farm
i reckon a cool sea event would be
A small arena opens up in the middle of the sea, you go onto it and you are challenged with fighting npcs equivalent to your depths trial but enforcers are squibbos
From the slight teaser that Arch showed us, Conquest is quite literally going to be as removed from the game as Battle Royale is, except from what it sounds like, you actually get rewards from it.
The teaser was a Talent shop, so you probably don't even bring(or risk losing) your builds in it. So much for the overworld, I guess?
they should add inertia so we don't fall off the boats when we jump or move around
this is unimaginably hard to impliment and especially in roblox, i wouldn't hope for that feature
@@WorstAbaYT actually, it's kind of easy to implement, simply find the physics body of the thing you last jumped from and move your body relative to that.
yo what is the thumbnail 🐴
When I first picked up deepwoken I thought the place "Crypt of the unbroken" and luminants and depths was so interesting, I thought it was massive and had a story in it.
Now it's just a glorified mini open world with sailing and parrying
"as soon as potions were viable" by viable u mean they gave you free m1's healing damage and basically everything salt chemist litterally had an answer to anything in the game 💀
Something that could make the seas a lot more interesting is being able to use the guild base as a boat, a giant fortress on the seas like they were supposed to be!
Just make sailing more challenging, you HAVE to wind your sails to move, add a more detailed ocean system with waves and etc, add anchors to boats, add crew members to every part of the map that you can hire for your ship
The issue is that theirs nothing in the water to actually feed players. Arcane Odyssey did all this but it actually had events that were worth the reward. If they made sailing more challenging people would just find it tedious and literally not touch the overworld at all
NPC crew would be boring, just get some friends on or talk to people in game
they added blacksteel pirate towers, mabye some blacksteel pirate boats that will attack you, there can also be a blacksteel port island that randomly spawn that you can raid and it would kinda be like a duengon, sorta like a duke duengon
He wanted it to be scary so they added the broodlord
1. Really tough to ask for anything right now from devs who are already almost half a year late for a pvp mode they promised a year ago.
2. Potions were always broken, you just never participated in ganks where people actually were trying to win and they were hard to make and sustain for a reason. New oath needed a nerf and just cause your salty you can’t cheese your way to victory anymore doesn’t mean your right.
3. The boat idea is actually valid. Let me do something meaningful rather than just afk while staring at a map.
Ngl random island spawning is such a good idea for deepwoken, especially since its a roguelike and theres very low risk since everyone knows what to expect
Simple depth update slow because these alot of reason
1 : What always happens is that bugs lead to you dying on the map in a bullshit way, most recently they added a feature that prevents you from dying in pve if you're over 65% and lost internet or quit game
2 : They tested NPCs and built the story as logically as possible, featuring items rather than games like Blox Fruit that simply build maps and add accessories to sell.
3 : Long updates can add more ideas to the game and future updates, they focus on the fun and balance of the game
I think they should add all the npcs in the boats so that it feels more alive or something so dinghy would have none sloop would have none but all the other boats would have npcs in the hull like a guild base
devs gotta take notes from arcane odyssey
Bro all they gotta do is add a bigger whirlpool into the void sea, that sucks everyone in to a new server where they're in a green like area where its like an abadoned shipyard with ghost ships and shit, idk if theyll be water or not, but being in that realm, or making it a wave survival sounds hella fun, it could have its own story where you gotta shoot with cannons or sum, with kaido being a real boss fight, with cool loot at the end, itll give a bit more fun into acquring pentras anchor, or introduce a new weapons to the game like ghostlock (gun) a saber/cleaver thingy (spooky gangplank inspired weapon) and petras anchor maybe a rework or sum. idk just yappin a little, but it sounds fun and makes void sea have more depth than just an ardour and ferryman
Deepwoken litterly has ingame lore about Island rising and skining. It is a crime that this game didnt have a dark sea system at the start. Shits litterly in the LORE.
im literally sailing while watching this vid and i totally agree i just watch yt vids while sailing since nothing happens
You ask for all these stuff to make the Overworld/Sea to be more interactive but you don’t understand that after a week it will get annoying. When they added Lightning Strikes and Sea Events, it was annoying and a hassle after the first time. Once people understand and master a mechanic it will get boring and tedious
nice man u made the changes happen
YES MORE MAMBLES CONTENT!!!!!!!
Thank you jimothy, streams are coming soon : )
Thats why im making an entire new game from scratch, primarily based on Exploration and Survavaling on an ALIVE WORLD
Like arcane odyssey but permadeath and with a more grounded and realistic gameplay and ideas. While also having a similar lore style to deepwoken
I have a bunch of things done and im really happy with my results but Im starting to feel that permadeath doesnt really belong in a game like this.
You could say is for making the risk of dying something real, yeah that would be a good statement. But the problem comes when it becames just something that makes you rage quit the game and I dont know how to fix that 😭
If Deepwoken is really a roguelike then the devs should find some way to make the whole gameplay(the progression, build making AND EXPLORATION) tied to wiping and make wiping fun.
Like making stuff being blocked unless you wiped on certain conditions. So when you wipe you atleast unlocked something that feels real, not only just the more """skill""" you got because that can be easily obtained without wiping(Like in the trial of one for example)
Deepwoken right now is more focused on the progress more than the ending, deepwoken devs should start making the ending more fun(and too, adding a real endgame) and making the progress better and more complex and vivid. Because right now deepwoken progression lasts a BUNCH of time for nothing
If you want permadeath, add new content behind it like any other roguelike.
Otherwise you could have a semi-permadeath, where it doesn’t kick in until later levels, or you don’t wipe at all but have significant downsides to death.
@@Mambles Thanks for reading my bible LOL
Those are really good ideas, thank you. But the game has no Leveling because progression is tied on exploration, stats and other things like equipment or magical attack ideas and ""talents"".
So idrk how I would be doing those ideas, but adding content behind wiping is a step on the right direction. I like the idea of dying and learning that I've obtained a bunch of things I can try now that im creating a new character.
Ill probably add stuff like deepwoken's regalias(obtained after wiping on certain conditions) but more and less rare
that thumbnail looks awesome do you make them your self?
Yes!
All of my thumbnails are made by me
They even made it so you can't use training gear while steering a boat 😭
i just wish the devs would focus a little on the adventure aspect of the game 😭
I think like 99% of my builds for the past months (many many months) have always just been Deepbound. Have rarely touched Overworld unless its for Chime or some random thing related to some build.
pots are still super good. Not as broken as they are previously, but they're solid if you know what you're doing.
Just add actual waves and sometimes too much weather damages your ship
deepwoken mfs when they actually learn everything about the game and surprised that it doesnt seem so mysterious and dangerous now 😧😱😱😱
That's why arch should copy AO and remake voidsea
When the roguelike isn’t randomly generated 😱
5:13 i mean hive origin🤫🧏
fr only reason i keep going deepbound is so voidwalkers can get off my back every 5 minutes. can't do anything in the overworld without a voidwalker popping up and being a genuine annoyance
@@CrengTab no thanks dork
@@CrengTabfym bro
@@CrengTabget normal/good rep with everyone
@@CrengTabmore deepbounds = less bounties = voidwalkers big sad 🥳🎉🎉 (remember negative multiplied by negative is positive because when bad things happen to bad people, it’s good) = less voidwalkers 😁👍
Anyways stop gatekeeping ☹️
@@CrengTab wait what since when was this a pvp game
the thing is we dont need new content we need faster travel lets be real
They actually did it😼💯‼️‼️
I love these videos MAMBLES
A good boss in the seas like seas of thieves a big one you can only hit him with boat canon smth like that
The thumbnail...
When u were talking abt seas and stuff, most of the stuff u said already existed
only reason i don't prog in the overworld anymore is due to voidwalkers like damn bro i understand that pvp is a core part of the game but don't push it to the level where i lose a life every 5 damn minutes (South America player btw so yeah my ping is 250-600), i think a way to solving this is by making it so you don't get hunted by voidwalkers if you get positive rep with eylis (atleast above friend) and had done some bounties for them (maybe 2 or 3, less than tacet for sure)
when layer 3
We could have new origins
Why you using evanspear on gale build?
deepwoken will be saved if chime gets deleted when conquest drops!
Ok most of the time you cook, this time its in the middle, im not sure you understand how limited roblox can be at times. I do think they should add like pilot ships and floating islands to bring more interesting lands and such because yes the overworld can be boring. But some of the things you said sound good on paper but would probably be garbage in game😅
Limitation breeds creativity, and it's not like anything I said in the video hasn't been done before on roblox.
The real problem is the devs not working on content that already exists unless it affects them or becomes really obvious,
idk if you saw the most recent CC event but it was a large ship battle which was unplayable because of how poorly the sea is optimized,
shortly after that the sea was looked into, with updates like the waves bobbing your ship and heavy optimizations which should've came months ago.
WAHT IS THIS THUMBNAIL
Potions are still viable in chime, I block break in one hit 🥺
You have no voidwalker in depth
why evanspear and not something that procs speed demon quick question
Arcane odyssey did this perfectly, incorporating ships into the game itself to facilitate exploration.
if deepwoken did that it would be sick
who uses evanspear in diluven
people gank me in the depths all the time idk what ur talking about
every time I try to gank in depths they always run away ...
@@Mambles i run too because fair ganks dont exist
@@Mambles yeah cause almost nobody wants to risk wiping for practically 0 reward
DEEPBOUND=PEAKWOKEN
700 elo players complaining about saltchemist nerf🦅
speaking nothing but facts
bro is capping if you get jumped in the depths you can lose most of your hp before the fight even started with stupid assassination builds and also depths gankers are really common not rare
these supa copies getting out of hand
I DO NOT SOUND LIKE SUPAA!!
@@Mambleshes D riding just ignore
Voidwalkers.
bro is lying i get ganked every depths progression.
i agree
hi
Hello!
Depths is more fun lol
gg
what is this freaky ass thumbnail
ur not danvr whats this ramble
chimewoken
ok so here is some ideas:
Make small islands as an event in void sea
Make Ethiron harder fx:
Make the void he comes up from an actualy void where you die,
make less health packs,
make the bridge at the end of floor 2, when you escape, collapse so you have to be quick (if you are more than 1, its individually activated)
Make chasser spawn bounders but you can lure them to run over the edge.
Stay away from the kitchen 🔥
Never cook Ethiron changes ever again
Hell’s Kitchen episode #407
@@Sky_darts its boring to fight rn. Lame ahh boss
First idea was good and the rest was Hell's Kitchen.
Boat Upgrade System Fo Today ?