This Phone Almost Defeated Me - Nothing Phone Teardown And Repair Assessment
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2022
- Nothing is quite like the teardown of this phone.
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For a Nothing phone, there's nothing easy about repairing it that's for sure! Thanks Hugh!
Just like your head it has nothing.
I see what you did there lmfao
Nothing to fix the phone shouldn’t be fixable I feel that’s why the company named it nothing phone. Nothing to fix even if broken and that’s why I don’t want a nothing phone.
No kidding. Wow…what a very complicated device. Super easily damaged as far as cabling, especially if you’re new to repairs. Luckily Hugh is a veteran! ❤️ The OS overlay, beautiful. The phone itself when assembled, beautiful! But…it is definitely NOT repair-friendly…as many phones are designed to be these days. This one has several weird little quirks and no-boot situations depending upon what you’re doing too, which is extra annoying when testing out what might be broken if doing a repair… I can say, I can only recommend the Nothing Phone to people who case-protect their devices, and don’t drop them much at all.
@@julieboruta The Fairphone is really nice these days, with some decent specs, but unfortunately we have to import them in the US because they aren’t sold here directly. Nor is the Nothing Phone, tbh 😂
Not only have they made it look like an iPhone they even managed to surpass it in difficulty to disassemble
@@wingit7335 why would they. They own their own operating system completely and have complete freedom over what they do, why would they want android
@@Articbear his comment confused the hell out of me lmao
@@wingit7335 There own operating system and it's cheap for them . And i like where iOS is going . It's good .
@@wingit7335 Android was made as retaliation from former Apple employees why would they use an operating system like that?
@@wingit7335 theoretically they could cuz android is open source but that wouldnt make sense
When Carl Pei said he's going to build the iPhone of the Android world, Now we know what he meant.
Except they’ve some how made it harder to repair
@@axethepenguin unlike apple who glue everything together?
There is always pixel
@@supersecretninjame did nothing not glue everything together though? or did you not watch the video
@@axethepenguin so then how is in not like apple? xD did you read the comment you are replying to?
Omg the moment I saw that phone I knew I NEEDED a teardown. Thank you so much, Hugh! Kind of bummed out to see this fingerprint issue and all those aesthetic plastics... Nothing better release a calibration tool or a software update. If I still used social media I would have made a big fuss about it on em, but I'll just stick to complaining to my tech friends. Hopefully they can help out somehow.
Again, great video Hugh, thank you for making this. You're a huge inspiration.
@Chandler Russell yeah it better be. Kinda sucks for the people who bought it now though
@e damn, a bot noticed me. That's a first.
@Chandler Russell Honestly i think the price is enough to deter anyone away from the phone company for good. People are wanting to not upgrade to the iphone 14 due to the base model starting at 799 a significant price increase from last year. Plus this phone is the textbook definition of function over form and I really don't think that's enough of a reason for people to buy a phone these days since it's OS ust running a vanilla version of Android; there just doesn't seem like enough of a reason to spend this kind of money for a beautificated bare bones android device. Not to mention the design of this phone looks like a mass production nightmare and all the stupid beauty covers on the back of the phone just makes it even more needlessly complex. I know this phone is an early build unit but still with it's current state Nothing needs to go back to the drawing board and figure out how they can make the design of the phone more condusive for mass production.
@@michealpersicko9531 The nothing phone is cheap? the base model costs £230 less than the iphone 13 128gb model
I am staying far away from this company. we all watched OnePlus sell out. I can see this company selling out quicker.
The fingerprint sensor not working after replacement might just be an oversight from the software developers when integrating the part manufacturer's software stack. In-screen fingerprint sensors require factory calibration that is stored in a persistent storage, and won't get wiped with a factory reset. Can be solved in a software update by adding some user self-calibration tool. Goodix usually uses a calibration cube with three differently textured surfaces which gets put on the sensor.
Some OnePlus phones have similar issues. I'd remember the OnePlus7? was such that if screen repairement was needed you needed to get sparepart with housing, not just screen, or this would happen.
This is a 3rd similarity that this phone has with OnePlus when it comes to repairability 😅
Edit: Should watch the whole video after commenting, lol. This was more similar to Huawei P -series than OP7.
Fun story, I once had a customer come back to us after a colleague had repaired his Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra. The fingerprint wasn't working and I had no clue what he had done. I discovered that the phone needed some special fp calibration and started running it. Found out that you need the Goodix (or similar cubes) to calibrate it - while the customer was waiting. Funnily enough, I just started experimenting by putting my hand a a stapler as replacements and the calibration actually worked. That day I learned, that I will never order these cubes ever :)
@@PvtAnonymous omg how? Do you have a video of someone doing this?
@@cristianmendoza5774 sadly not, was pretty easy tho. FP worked like a charm after that.
@@PvtAnonymous you shou do yours bro! Worlds needs your knowledge
There is like a strip of cardboard on the box you need to peel to open it, like a mail package.
Well, that would be - again - destroying the box to open it
@@anianii better then how it was opened
I am aware, I just didn't want to tear the side of the box off as I will be selling these devices at some point in the future.
As I mentioned its almost impossible to open the box without destroying it.
@@HughJeffreys okay got it 👍
@@HughJeffreys true almost every box I had is like this you need to break it first better use a package on there or like iPhone
As neat as the LED's are, I think it's kinda silly to make a clear phone then cover up every functional piece you'd be able to see with blank plastic. I thought the whole fun of casing electronics with transparent material was to admire what the device looks like underneath.
without the plastic it would easily break some parts on a sunny shiny day. that is a general issue with these sort of transparent look if you want one.
@@essah4161 What parts would it break? You mean because of the heat of the sun?
@@essah4161 Do you have a link to a document talking about that issue? I can't find one and I'd like to know more.
At least they could've put the covers on the back glass, so that when you remove the back cover, you can proceed to normally repair the phone. But it's a design company, they obviously don't care about reparability.
@Essah there is none in component basically photo/light sensitive. Covering an electronic circuit from light is usually for protect it from elements, if you have photo/light sensitive component, for cooling. In phone ? I never see any photo sensitive/light sensitive component other than camera (which basically protected already).
In fact make the color black is the culprit of every phone for heating faster due to sun heat.
Seeing as how this phone is plagued with software issues, I wonder if this fingerprint issue is just another bug. Very disappointed they aren't selling replacement parts though, you have to "submit a request" to get your phone repaired. I see Nothing special about this device.
this phone is nothing but marketing. i dont see why anyone would buy this phone other than for looks.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Sorry, I just had to.
@@kutilmartin
Costs: $450
Screen: extremely good, almost flagship level, uniform tiny bezels
Cameras: very decent, no gimmicks like 2mp macros
Design and build quality: very nice and unique + premium materials
Specs: decent chipset, good storage and ram
Software: almost stock, quick and snappy
Yea clearly no reasons to buy the phone. Ignore the fact it's probably the best midrange phone out right now 🤡🤡
@@propersod2390 not everything is perfect, always a device has a common issue. Like my Redmi Note 9 Pro's proximity sensor.
@@propersod2390 also a broken display and no headphone jack, so yeah really no reason to buy it
The internal layout reminds me of the Motorola phones we hate seeing in our shop, but also Apple's penchant for a crazy amount of fragile flex cables. If this phone were a little more repair-friendly, I'd probably get one to play with, but I'll just stick with my Pixel 6 for now. Great video as always, Hugh.
Yeah pretty much. I've bought Motorola devices for the past few years because they tend to have better bang for buck within my price range, but I've always noticed how repair-unfriendly they are - the main motherboard also has the charging port on it on most models, for anyone unaware.
I find it a bit ironic how this is the presented as the anti mainstream smartphone but makes repairing it more complicated and difficult than the mainstream phone companies
And also basically runs stock Android with slight modifications, mainstream indeed.
There is almost nothing about this phone that isn't mainstream:
Software locked fingerprint? Yes
No headphone jack or expandable storage? Yup
Hard to repair? Definitely
Knocks off the iPhone design? Absolutely
They put some white led strips on the back and said they were different. Want a phone that is actually different? Look up the F(x) tec pro 1 X. It has a full size keyboard you can show by sliding it so typing on a phone is actually precise and fast. Now, that's non-mainstream.
@@annihilator247x and where teh hell can i find one of these devices and can it be used on Verizon Wireless
@@annihilator247x And they have the nerve to call other phones boring and mainstream while they make a phone that is replica of iPhone 12 with back-light and stock android, like what?
If innovation is putting back LED lights on phone then we're done with innovating.
@@michealpersicko9531 That should be Verizons problem, not yours.
Your phone knowledge and dis-/reassembly is amazing. I can't properly disassemble a cardboard box without destroying it. Great work and great video.
I didn't know a cellphone teardown video could make me feel so disappointed and frustrated. The design of that phone is so intentionally irritating. Kudos for going in blindly and doing such a great job putting them back together.
As if you could do better, or even understand at all why it is the way it is past you not liking it.
Definitely one of the most interesting teardowns of the year! Looks like such a massive pain to repair. Next time I’d love to see just a simple transparent back that allows us to see the actual components on the inside.
Thanks again Hugh for an interesting and informative video! I love the modernist aesthetic of this phone. I'm guessing because of the back style - is why Nothing made those decisions which made the tear down relatively complex. I really do like the LEDs btw!
Your channel has inspired me to repair my old Galaxy Note Edge for my son, and he's enjoying the large screen and pen features - not bad for his first phone!
I had to replace the motherboard and used the Ifixit guide - but your channel certainly gave me the confidence to give it a go! (luckily there was no adhesive to deal with) Keep up the great posts in your channel! ✌️🇦🇺
one of the few teardown videos which are actually great. I could easily say your videos and Jerry's Rig videos are just awesome. good going buddy
Your teardowns are the best, keep it up!
I miss the LED notification light on my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 phone, so I'm glad that a phone maker found a way to have something similar when screens take the entire front of the phone.
Very interesting tear down Hugh. Here in the UK I always look forward to waking up and Sunday mornings with a cup of tea and watching your latest post. Great stuff ;)
great to see this tear down, I got this phone last week and its a decent midrange phone very happy with it
the phone designe is awesome, i love the clear back with the led layout.
Everything you said about fingerprint sensors NEEDS to be mentioned in courtrooms when RTR is discussed. Thanks for doing what you do :)
@Who Dis? fingerprint/face ID data gets stored in a secure enclave both on Android and iPhone and it's located inside of the built-in storage. Fingerprint scanner is just a scanner, it doesn't store anything inside of it. That's like saying that someone can hack Phone's PIN code by replacing the touchscreen because that's the only way it could be typed in.
Hugh, I'd like to point out a misinformation: Fingrprint readers tend to have internal calibrations that come stock with the rom of the android phone itself, without a proper calibration tool, you cannot recalibrate the fingerprint sensor, this WILL not change even when you factory reset the phone.
I believe what is happening here is that they didn't put any auto calibration tools like some android phone tend to do to make repair easy, either they forgot or they never cared in the first place, but I highly doubt it has anything to do with software locks considering everything else works fine, maybe they might put an auto calibration in the rom next update.
I have no idea where it even start repairing a phone.. but I find your videos fascinating like some kind of weird amsr. Thanks for your hard work and passing on your expertise
Awesome Video Hugh !!
2 things to point out.
The metal cover over the bottom ribbon cable for the LEDs apparently slides off after taking out the stopper and sliding to the left with a pick.
Also, the way you remove the battery is not by pulling up, rather pulling at an angle, about 30°, you took out the entire plastic holder that's held down with a way stronger adhesive than the battery adhesive.
Fantastic video, as usual, Hugh.
I have had this phone for a little more than a week now, and I'm quite happy with it. But it's disappointing to see that it's such a chore to replace parts. Also, I'm happy to see that the USB port is modular since that is the part that often dies first on me.
Bit disappointed that the charging coil is just a cover, I thought that was the one part that was exposed lol. Hopefully, they'll address the fingerprint issue and I hope that nothing breaks on me, since I don't know how first and third-party repair will be with a small new company.
0:57 There is a pull tab you were supposed to use to rip the box open
12:25 As a photo/video light it does basically nothing, but it's a fun gimmick to show to people. I have had a couple of times that I saw the notification light without feeling/hearing it buzz, I never have notification sounds or ringtone on so for me this has a bit of use
Great work - keep it up! We appreciate it.
Just started the video, but like most, I am enthralled.
Cheers, Mate! 🍻
For a «Nothing» phone, it's actually full of crap. And the battery removal process puts the entire display at risk, too much force involved. The more things change, the more stays the same.
Well the repairability wasn't a big focus for them anyway. Most of the low level stuff was done by the manufacturing partner itself.
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Damn they make Samsung and other android phone repairs look like a walk in the park. I do look forward to tearing one down myself though
they're not a walk in the park. they just don't have so many plastic decals for aesthetic purposes
nah, the NP1 seems easy to disassemble. If you want to give yourself a challenge, try Huawei. They somehow manage to make the most anti-repair phones I've ever seen. Laptops too.
Using a pick to open the box, nice one Hugh
its one of the few channels i subscribe even if i wont watch many more videos... just so to hopefully help spread awareness
After using the phone for a Week, These are my Views :
1) Glyph Lights drain the charge more faster than when it is disabled
2) Night light captures are more pixelated
3) With the Adapter not been provided its kind of hassle to search for a right adapter for this phone for a reasonable price
4) Nothing phone do not have their gallery of their own and Google photos is the only hope
5) Phone does not have a launcher of their own
Is it worth buying?
@@jacobunofficial1146 Yes its worth buying
How is the phone so far?? After a year+. Battery still good?
Compared to nothing, Apple definitely has some repairability
nah apple is worse for part
@@Ben-ev5se I repaired an iPhone X with a new screen and earpiece assembly
I didn't use the method for keeping Face ID
Talking about the newer iphones whereby changing the screen by yourself and not a professional with equipment is bad, losing truetone and faceid, changing the camera module will make u lose the camera features but overall it's still a great phone
Nothing beats Apple
@@RestoreTechnique lol nothing
Awesome video bro
Hugh reminds me of Columbus and Magellan and Livingstone. And Zack of course. Uncharted territory navigated with ease! Thought for a moment he woukd end up on the rocks, but deftly handled, the ship sailed into deep and calm waters. 👍
Nice job again Hugh, it's awesome to see someone exposing hostile design like in this Nothing phone, even better from a fellow aussie. When will it end though... Always something to try and "catch" the end user out just for trying to repair their own device.
With nothing phone acquiring essential phone, had high hopes on ease of repairability. But disappointed. Thanks for the detailed teardown!
Great video hugh👍👌👌
only few nerds like you and we can officially say all the problem's solutions are on the internet....i love your details
Seeing the teardown kinda makes me like the aesthetic less... just kinda sucks to have something with plastic stickers all over it when they could've shown off more functional stuff. Makes what you see seem more like a random unbalanced hodgepodge instead of looking at something interesting.
Unfortunatley this is pretty much how all "transparent" phones are designed. I am not sure if this is to protect the internals or the user (maybe additional shielding is required to reduce interference or Sar vaules or the plastic could be there for internal structure/reduce the chance of something shorting out).
It would be great to see a phone that is properly designed for this purpose. I used to be so excited for special models like this but once you learn that it's fake it's not te same.
Remember the price.
Have you looked inside the engine compartment of all production cars of today? Plastic covers everything to make it seem bigger/more pleasing to the eye, hiding parts that actually do the work.
Reminded me strongly of this.
EDIT: A world of lies we're living in.
@@IvoStunga Lot of that plastic is for noise reduction and pedestrian safety though.
@@sandorbence2067 how's loose plastic covering engine turns out to be safer for pedestrians, considering they don't reach the engine, but are impacting only body of the car?
Neat phone, shame it's a pain to tear apart.
Really intretung - thank you for your care and persistence!
Have a nothing phone really make sense now 😅 thanks hugh for an elaborated video of disassemble and assemble of nothing phone 1
How did they manage to make a more unfixable version of the iPhone
Well, nothing ever is what it seems!
Learned from the best.
And this is why you don't comment before finishing the video
Hello Niko
The iPhone needs laser equipment to remove the adhesive on the back glass.
That fingerprint issue seems like a oversight from the company as there are no other measures that nothing took to make it hard to repair.
You are amazing man.
Nothing beats Hugh Jeffreys 😀
It is nothing but another amazing video showing the pit falls in the tear down so other don't need to get caught. I have been caught just recently on a Oukitel C22 with a covered screw looking like a plastic alignment pin. But no it was a water detection sticker.
I love all the detail and good photography in your videos Hugh. Thanks.
Nothing but cruel... Thanks for the great Video Hugh! Honest as always
Superbly made
Good one Hugh. I've now had my Sunday morning fix, time for a Sydney Road coffee...
LEDs on the back are pointless since they will be covered up with a case. LEDs on the front would make a lot more sense and be more useful. Still doesn't have a headphone jack though, so I wouldn't buy one anyway.
Great teardown!
I think there could be some pretty neat cases for this phone showing the LEDs... Or maybe not... I dunno, we'll see. I'm excited though!
Just buy a dongle lol, no point in getting a bad phone only because it has a headphone jack. I wouldn't buy the Nothing phone either, but most phones don't come with a headphone jack anymore
I wonder if front mounted notification LEDs will come back. If we can mount a camera under the display, we can do an LED in the corner
@@haydn6462 Every phone without a headphone jack is a bad phone. I wouldn't buy a bad phone because I can buy a dongle.
"lol"
@@mjc0961 Yeah, an S22 is a much better phone than an A52 lmfao
to answer your question about the glyph lights, I wonder how case makers are going to react to them. I've never said "what the hell, are you kidding me?!" so many times during a teardown.
I was waiting for this for soo long 😄
Great stuff! 🙏🙌
What a huge disappointment !
Just another terrible phone in the race towards total disposability 😠
Everything else minus the fingerprint sensor is replaceable. Pretty sure there will be a tool out soon to reprogram the sensor.
@@heyramineni Good luck finding the parts, they don't sell them.
Who wants to waste a month or two posting their phone back to China & return ??
Almost 95% people who buy their phone don't repair it by themselves
Hi Hugh love the content and this phone looks very interesting from what I've seen so far of it
that's amazing video, thanks for sharing.
Now good luck finding a place that actually officially repairs those niche smartphones. The whole disassembly looks destructive with all those "aesthetic" plastic pieces having to be taken off. I don't believe it will look as new after having glued them back in place. Also display replacement seems like a lot of work.
And then the fingerprint sensor: Is it glued to the screen? If yes, how to replace the screen?
He swapped the sensors though. It's optical aka just a camera
The screws hidden under water indicator and metal bracket that needs a rubber stopper to be lifted to be moved over is s very common thing among OnePlus phones.
I love the Nothing Phone 1,Can't wait to receive mine
I love mine. The charge coil has a reverse charge function for charging the headphones in the box on it which is handy when out
If a startup phone company doesn't have repairable phones, I'm not interested. To me, buying one would be no different from (if not worse than) buying a mid-range phone from a mainstream company.
its repairable as you see, but i still cant find those parts online so i guess youre kind of not wrong...
I don’t even want to look at the bill for replacing the battery. Parts: $29 Labor: $500 thank you
Naah it's not that bad.
Repair manuals will be available soon and with them, the nothing is only a tiny bit more complicated than your typical android phone
@@NK-Repairs Agree - most people can get away with using a hairdryer to heat the back and phone opening kits with tweezers, guitar picks, spudgers etc cost less than £10 (at least in the UK). So while it's not completely DIY it's still at least accessible. Sourcing OEM parts for the phone, however, is a different story (counterfeit parts, actual original but serialized parts, etc etc). Battery replacements are probably the most commonly needed replacement these days and it's not as easy as it was back in the days of the S5 and below. Having to heat the back of the phone to replace the battery is more annoying now but it's somewhat more acceptible these days since it's only needed every 3 years or so. But having it intentionally hard to get to with difficult adhesive is explicitly anti-repair - it doesn't take a genius to know that the battery will need to be replaced in the device's lifetime. It doesn't even need to be adhered in THAT much since it's got the back of the phone and its surroundings largely keeping it in place too.
@@QuickishFM no one is fixing this phone if they haven't practiced beforehand
@@samholdsworth420 it's sort of besides the point, it could be made easier to repair to make it easier for people both with and without experience.
Watching this on my white nothing phone! Great video
Thanks for the awesome video❗ honestly I still would love to try one out
I think the reason for fingerprint sensor pairing in android is because of the SELinux security built right into it, to prevent the possibility of the phone being hacked, and normally the fingerprint sensor hides behind this layer. The only way to change it is to pair the new fingerprint sensor. Some manufacturers provide the tools for this, while others don't. A good thing security wise, but not so much repairability wise.
This video showed me Nothing that I needed, but something that I wanted.
What a fabulous tear down 👏😎🇮🇪
I like the aesthetic of it, especially the back of course. it is something different in the stale "same phone as last ten years" market.
i absolutely love the look of this phone and the lights on the back are amazing for deaf people! however the biggest let down is obviously the lack of user reparability :/ its a shame hopefully they do something about it in the future. i’ll definitely be following their progress as a company
Their repair service is actually cheap I'd expect
Apple: Our engineers make our phones very difficult to repair.
Nothing Co.: Hold my beer….
thank for video😘😘
I am impressed by the company, good for the first phone... I thought the repairability was pretty good, except the fp reader... But may be possible that supporting hardware is on the motherboard and thus not working and needs hardware compatibility or new keys inserted... I havent checked the module and I also dont own the phone to check... Great video, I love your attitude towards right to repair and anti r2r..
Nothing special no headphones jack, no user replaceable battery, non easy repairable by the user adding LED just feel gimmicky.
I think the “hidden screws” are for meant to maintain the warranty of the Phone (1). If the sticker is damaged there’s no warranty.
In many countries, those stickers are not legally binding and you can sue them if they refuse to repair it.
Those stickers are illegal, so that had better not be what they are.
finally Hugh reviews this phone 👍
Just the box is enough of a sign that there just in it for a quick profit, I've had breakfast cereal packs that are more reusable than that
I think the box has a pull tab to tear it open easily?
yeah hahahaha its so obvious as well and he missed it
Greatest mysteries of life #261 - How does Hugh Jeffreys not have a million subscribers on RUclips yet?
Soon really soon we hope, a like and share will help
I love how this phone looks
Huge job well done 👍
You'd think the old one plus repairability would migrate over to the nothing phone. I guess they wanted nothing to do with it.
It's called the Nothing Phone because "You will own nothing, and you will be happy" the WEF motto for the future.
True tester are here on RUclips. Big shout to all the tester no matter what u test from coffee to alcohol to software to phones 😁👍🏻
Just a price and light 😂🤣
Thank you .. for this
I knew the hype was to good to be true. Catchy title, but it was obvious that nothing phone will not defeat the champ, Hugh.
Cool teardown!
I was already skeptical of this phone, this video just cements that thought
Waiting for this content btw intro is cool. I hope that fingerprint software lock is solved in the future and i think they had to hide some screws for the aesthetics of the phone. Repair manually is totally needed. I like the glitch interface and i usually put my phone face down so that's for me.
Nice one bro 😎
the number of "nothing" puns in this video is nothing short of incredible
There’s a pull tab for opening the boxes btw.
I’m not sure why it is mentioned that the fingerprint sensor is mentioned to be locked to the board but somewhat modular. The only two cases I see it being damaged is if the area of the screen was damaged or if it short circuited after being in water.
I really wanted the Nothing phone, but after this I'm reconsidering.
I was considering this to buy as my new phone, this definitely made me think twice
do you have any videos or guides for the advanced programs you were using to test the glyph interface or fingerprint reader? i have had a hard time finding how to access these
Id love to see you doing a repair assesment on the Xiaomi 12 Pro, seeing the teardown of the ultra, it seemed to be very repairable